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USS Billings Freedom-class Littoral Combat Ship (Infographics)

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On June 21, the USS Billings of the US Navy ran into a commercial vessel while getting underway in waters around Canada’s Montreal. The USS Billings took “minor damage above the waterline,” according to Lt. Cmdr. Courtney Hillson, a public information officer with the Navy’s Naval Surface Force Atlantic.

No injuries were reported.

The USS Billings was conducting a port visit to Montreal while in transit to Florida, when the incident took place.

“The Navy is conducting an investigation to understand what happened and why,” Hillson wrote in an email to the Billings Gazette. “We will incorporate lessons learned to ensure we conduct safe and effective operations.”

Later, Cmdr. Michael Johnson, commanding officer of the future littoral combat ship Billings’ blue crew, was relieved of command on June 27. The decision was made by Capt. Shawn Johnston, the head of Littoral Combat Ship Squadron Two.

The Billings is scheduled to be commissioned on August 3.

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Black Waters

“Freedom class” Loool, more like “Gestapo style class”

British Free Corps

I’d say Stasi class.

You can call me Al

I’d say another US shit bump class.

AM Hants

Didn’t they have to recall of of these class ships, owing to problems? The F35 of the seas, so comes to mind.

You can call me Al

PS I have a thread saved to come back to you; I haven’t forgotten girl ……

What, what problems with the F-35 ?

AM Hants

Before ‘Google Clean Up’, there were many articles, mentioning that they had stopped counting, major faults on with regards the $trillion, disaster, when they reached 100. Cannot find them now.

F-35 Far from Ready to Face Current or Future Threats, Testing Data Shows Navy’s F-35 Version Not Ready for Combat… https://www.pogo.org/investigation/2019/03/f-35-far-from-ready-to-face-current-or-future-threats/

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F-35 Price Drops, but Serious Technical Problems Remain The Fiscal Times Michael Rainey The Fiscal TimesJune 12, 2019… https://finance.yahoo.com/news/f-35-price-drops-serious-221349386.html

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Here are the problems faced by the F-35, and how some can be fixed… https://www.defensenews.com/newsletters/tv-next-episode/2019/06/17/here-are-the-problems-faced-by-the-f-35-and-how-some-can-be-fixed/

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From 2016 and did laugh, at the section heading – ‘ejecting might kill you’

The Pentagon’s official F-35 bug list is terrifying By Joel Hruska on February 3, 2016… https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/222380-the-pentagons-official-f-35-bug-list-is-terrifying

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WTF-35: How the Joint Strike Fighter Got to Be Such a Mess The story of the F-35, and what went wrong to put the Joint Strike Fighter so far over budget and behind schedule… https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a21957/wtf-35/ (old news)

You can call me Al

From the defence news link you provided, I got this – https://www.defensenews.com/air/2019/06/12/supersonic-speeds-could-cause-big-problems-for-the-f-35s-stealth-coating/

Nice links, keep them coming please.

AM Hants

You might like this, completely off topic, but, well, that is mois.

Just found it, whilst being nosy: Just copied snippets of the Bill, however, seriously worth reading the full works. Link attached.

THE UNITED NATION’S CONVENTION ON THE LAW OF THE SEA (TREATY DOC. 103-39) HEARINGS BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS UNITED STATES SENATE ONE HUNDRED TENTH CONGRESS FIRST SESSION SEPTEMBER 27 AND OCTOBER 4, 2007 ‘…COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS JOSEPH R. BIDEN, JR., Delaware, Chairman CHRISTOPHER J. DODD, Connecticut JOHN F. KERRY, Massachusetts RUSSELL D. FEINGOLD, Wisconsin BARBARA BOXER, California BILL NELSON, Florida BARACK OBAMA, Illinois ROBERT MENENDEZ, New Jersey BENJAMIN L. CARDIN, Maryland ROBERT P. CASEY, JR., Pennsylvania JIM WEBB, Virginia RICHARD G. LUGAR, Indiana CHUCK HAGEL, Nebraska NORM COLEMAN, Minnesota BOB CORKER, Tennessee JOHN E. SUNUNU, New Hampshire GEORGE V. VOINOVICH, Ohio LISA MURKOWSKI, Alaska JIM DEMINT, South Carolina JOHNNY ISAKSON, Georgia DAVID VITTER, Louisiana ANTONY J. BLINKEN, Staff Director KENNETH A. MYERS, JR., Republican Staff Director

‘… The Convention on the Law of the Sea is a product of several decades of bipartisan effort. Negotiations begun in the 1970s, under President Nixon, were continued under Presidents Carter and Reagan. In 1982, President Reagan refused to sign the Convention because of its objectionable provisions of deep seabed mining. The following year, President Reagan proclaimed that the United States would accept an act in accordance with the other aspects of the Convention, relating to traditional uses of the oceans. In 1990, under President Bush, a new effort was initiated to address the problems identified by President Reagan with the deep seabed mining provisions. Four years later, during President Clinton’s term, a new agreement was included that modifies the seabed mining provisions. The Convention is now endorsed by President Bush, who in May, urged the Senate to approve it during this session of Congress…

…Our security is advanced by the Convention because the United States Navy will benefit from navigational rules of passage through territorial waters, international straits, and archipelagic sealanes. Many strategic sealanes run through straits, such as the Strait of Gibraltar, or in archipelagos, such as in Indonesia. These rights of passage through straits or archipelagos are not contained in the 1958 treaties on the Law of the Sea, to which we are currently a party.

… essential component of the telecommunications infrastructure, by establishing an international framework for deep seabed mining in areas outside of national jurisdictions, which we have long expected would be subject to international regulation. Our environmental interests are advanced by the rules permitting coastal states to control the exploitation of the resources in the zone and to address pollution from various sources in the territorial sea…

…The case against the Convention is rooted in the opposition to it by President Reagan, who objected only to the deep seabed mining regime in the 1982 treaty. The 1994 agreement that modifies these mining provisions, an agreement that is also before the committee, should be seen as a triumph of American diplomacy.

…After rejecting the Convention, President Reagan asked our key allies to join us staying outside of it, most of them did. The large majority of our NATO partners, as well as Australia and Japan, did not ratify the Convention until after the conclusion of the 1994 agreement…

A concerted diplomatic effort by the United States and other major powers, produced an agreement that will protect American technology, provide for market-based approaches to production, and give the United States a permanent seat on the decision making body of the Seabed Mining Authority…

… Opponents are similarly reluctant to mention the unanimous support of affected U.S. industries. To oppose the treaty on economic grounds requires opponents to say that the oil, natural gas, shipping, fishing, boat manufacturing, exporting, and telecommunications industries do not understand their own bottom lines…

In addition, as a nonparty, our ability to influence the decisions of the Commission on the limits of the Continental Shelf is severely constrained. Russia is already making excessive claims in the Arctic. Until we become a party to the Convention, we will be in a weakened position to protect our national interests in these discussions. Opponents seem to think that if the United States declines to ratify the Law of the Sea, …

…nonparticipation renders the treaty virtually irrelevant or inoperable, the Law of the Sea will continue to form the basis of maritime law regardless of whether the United States is a party. International decisions related to national claims on continental shelves beyond 200 miles from our shore, resource exploitation in the open ocean, navigation rights, and other matters will be made in the context of the treaty, whether we join or not…

Consequently, the United States can not insulate itself from the Convention merely by declining to ratify. …They want the United States to participate in the structures of the Law of the Sea to defend their interests and to make sure that other nations respect our rights and our claims.

Given the United States has been abiding by all but one provision of the treaty since President Reagan’s 1983 statement of oceans policy, and that we have been a party to a less advantageous international convention on ocean law since 1958, dire predictions about the hazards to sovereignty, of joining the Law of the Sea ring particularly hollow.

It is irresponsible for us to wait to ratify the Law of the Sea until we feel the negative consequences of our absence from the Convention. The Senate should ratify the Law of the Sea Convention now, in the interest of U.S. national security, U.S. economy, and the American people…

https://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/092707_100407_Transcript_The%20United%20Nations%20Convention%20on%20the%20Law%20of%20the%20Sea.pdf

AM Hants

Part 2

Still reading through the text, of the link below, but, just seen this snippet.

‘…Recent Russian activities in the Arctic, all the way to the North Pole, have focused attention on this aspect of the Convention. Continuing data collection by Russia and other parties to the Convention, reflect a commitment to maximizing their sovereign rights over natural resources in that region.

The United States is at a distinct disadvantage in relation to such parties. As a nonparty, we are not currently in a position to maximize U.S. sovereign rights over the shelf in the Arctic or elsewhere. We have no access to the Convention procedure that would assure the full exercise of our sovereign rights. In the absence of such international recognition and legal certainty, U.S. companies are unlikely to secure the necessary financing and insurance to exploit energy resources on the extended shelf…’

AM Hants

May 2019 – It’s Official: The U.S. Navy’s Littoral Combat Ship Is a Complete Failure… It’s Official: The U.S. Navy’s Littoral Combat Ship Is a Complete Failure

You can call me Al

Honestly, I do not know whether to laugh or cry, the F-35 ship version.

But then again, when some tosser describes it as below, what can one expect:

“When the Navy in the 1990s first began shaping the LCS program, the idea was for the ships to be small, fast, inexpensive and lightly-manned “trucks” into which the sailing branch could plug a wide array of “modules” carrying equipment for specific missions including surface warfare, anti-submarine warfare and minesweeping.

Hopeless.

AM Hants

There was a lovely video, I used to share, but, never bookmarked, which showed the Russian weapons, stored in cargo containers. Then placed on board the ships, and opened when needed. Looked so neat and tidy and like Lego takes to the water. Nothing like the loaded cargo ships we now have, over in the merchant shipping lanes.

Laugh or cry at this one, or both, if you are ambidextrous, in the throat/tear duct department.

Village People– IN THE NAVY, OFFICIAL Music Video (1979) HD… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmGuy0jievs

That 269 document, I provided the link, in another comment, was presented between SEPTEMBER 27 AND OCTOBER 4, 2007.

Do you remember Russia took ground samples, from the arctic shelf, when she placed her flag on it. In order to send to the UN, to support her terrtorial claim, using a DNA analysis, proving links to Siberia. They tried earlier in the millenium, but, were told they had to provide evidence, to substantiate their claim.

Thu 2 Aug 2007 18.01 BST… Russia plants flag on North Pole seabed…https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/aug/02/russia.arctic

You just cannot believe it, since the US outsourced 80% of their intelligence, to the private sector, they had no idea that Russia had the capacity to obtain ground samples from the arctic shelf. Whilst they were not even signatories, together with some of their NATO and ‘5 Eye’ mates, to the Convention of The Seas. Which also applies to the Strait of Hormuz and also Sea of Azov, around the Kerch Strait Bridge.

They then turn up late to the party, demanding full control of all the ‘freebies’.

Russia now has hypersonics, in active service, and again the US wonders why they never joined the club. They were too busy focusing on ‘First Strike Missile Defence Systems’ to go on all Russia’s borders, without even thinking, that Russia might know what to be looking for, when defending herself. Getting it into production, asap.

AM Hants

Part 2.

Forgot to say, the submarine that laid the Russian flag on the sea floor of the arctic shelf, and took the ground samples, was the Losharik. The one, allegedly, that lost 14 highly skilled, research scientist, submariners, whilst managing to save the lives of the rest of the crew and bring the boat home.

I’m pretty sure the Gestapo fought on the side of India and Iraq and Iran against the UK-empire and against the zionist-Jews. Free nations lost the world wars and the empires won and crushed the Iranian/Germany/Indian/Iraqi/Finish/Spanish alliances against the UK/US/France/Jews. http://ihr.org/

Hasbara Hunter

I’m just curious how long it will take for this boat to sink….after it is hit by a Hypersonic projectile…..

skinner15

A bird strike would be lethal for this ship ffs.

Vitex

I think that goes for most naval vessels. Think Yamato

AM Hants

Failing that, wonder how they cope with merchant shipping?

Sinbad2

Less than 2 minutes. When my old ship the Melbourne cut the Frank E Evans in half, the bow section of the Evans sank immediately. We had the survivors out of the water in about 10 minutes, but 73 went down with it.

A hypersonic missile would be similar massive impact, although I doubt Russia would waste one on such a low value target, when a gun would get the job done.

You can call me Al

17 minutes, 12 seconds.

vaderfater

14 projectiles are needed to hit it. To take out hypersonic missile is not a big problem. Some 50-60 missiles is necessary to use for sinking of this ship.

wwinsti

I’ll have all of you nay-sayers know that the independence version of the LCS program always comes in under the 584 million dollar budget as long as it’s finished unarmed.

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