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US Declares It Is Forming A Coalition To Block Nord Stream 2

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US Declares It Is Forming A Coalition To Block Nord Stream 2

The European Parliament has supported the call for additional sanctions and halting the Nord Stream 2 project

According to US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Washington is forming a coalition to prevent the completion of Nord Stream 2. The US is frenetically campaigning for European countries to impose additional sanctions on Russia and stop the gas pipeline project, just days before European Union political leaders are due to meet for a major summit.

Apart from long running claims that the Nord Stream 2 project poses a threat to Europe’s energy security, Pompeo is citing the alleged Navalny poisoning as another reason to impose sanctions on Russia and halt construction of the gas pipeline, which has almost been completed.

Some Western governments and media outlets are claiming that the Russian government has used Novichok, a toxic nerve agent, to poison political opposition personality Alexei Navalny, following on from earlier accusations that another critic of the Russian government, Sergei Skripal, was also poisoned.

Both survived the alleged assassination attempts. An investigation of the alleged poisoning has barely begun and the claims of those involved have changed several times as they try to construct a credible narrative. Meanwhile, Western media outlets continue to allege that he was poisoned by Russian agents. On 20 September an article at Modern Diplomacy stated:

As expected, Alexei Navalny’s case is seriously tearing apart relationship between European Union and Russian Federation. The alleged “poisoning” of the opposition leader Alexei Navalny, on August 20 in Tomsk (Siberia), has similarities to the murder of former Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko, and that of Sergei Skripal, a former Russian military officer and double agent for the UK’s intelligence services, and his daughter, Yulia Skripal, in the city of Salisbury, England. LINK

However, another article at the same outlet notes some of the numerous anomalies in the evolving narrative, concluding:

Many Russian media outlets, in particular the independent newspaper Kommersant, give an almost minute-by-minute chronology of what happened after the plane with Navalny on board was landed at the Omsk airport. The public figure was promptly taken to the toxicology department of the local hospital and his treatment and examination began. Tellingly, literally within 24 hours, at the request of Navalny’s relatives and supporters, he was allowed to be taken to Germany for treatment. In a pandemic, urgent approval of such a procedure seems almost unrealistic, of course, the permission had to be agreed at the very top. However, the next morning, a German resuscitation plane, paid for by the Cinema for Peace Foundation, landed at the Omsk airport to take Navalny away a day later. At the same time, many questions arose about the efficiency of German doctors. So, according to Kommersant, upon arrival in Omsk, they refused to go to the hospital to examine the patient, and instead went to rest at the hotel? Only four hours after their arrival, they agreed to the offer of their Russian colleagues to conduct a joint inspection, and then returned to the hotel, because they agreed that it was inexpedient to transport Mr. Navalny. As a result, transportation was postponed for almost a day, including due to the requirements of the German trade unions for pilots to rest, although the Russian side expressed its readiness to speed up the flight. It turns out that almost 20 hours passed between the time the brigade arrived in Omsk and the time it flew to Germany with Navalny…

Considering the history of the Skripal poisoning and the general course towards tightening the sanctions belt around Russia, it seems that the Kremlin has fallen into a kind of trap. Leaving Navalny in Russia would mean getting charged with concealing information about his poisoning. Letting him to go in Germany means that Moscow is unable to fully receive information about research into the causes of poisoning. What can the long silence of German doctors mean? Is the examination difficult or they are waiting for instructions on the final diagnosis? One thing is clear, no matter how the situation turned alive and well, Navalny was much less dangerous to the Kremlin than lying in a coma and repeating the fate of Litvinenko and Skripal. And Moscow could not fail to understand this. LINK

Initially, Navalny claimed he had been poisoned after drinking a cup of tea at the airport. But now it’s claimed that he was poisoned by a water bottle from his hotel room. LINK

US Declares It Is Forming A Coalition To Block Nord Stream 2

Nord Stream 2

Late last week the European Parliament passed a resolution requesting an international probe into the Navalny incident. The political manoeuvre followed comments by the EU’s top diplomat, Josep Borrell, who supported calls for the imposition of a new set of sanctions on Russia.

The campaign for additional sanctions against Russia before any actual investigation has been completed into the poisoning claims, much less an investigation of who might have been the perpetrators, clearly shows that Brussels is not interested in establishing the truth but is instead seeking a pretext to further damage relations between Europe and Russia, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said.

Russia’s permanent representative to the EU, Aleksey Chizhov, said the resolution appeared to be extremely rushed and contained some elemental factual mistakes. Squarely calling the Navalny affair a “poisoning” shows the EU is trying to blame Russia for the incident instead of finding out what exactly happened, the diplomat said, adding that “Russia will find a way to retaliate if the EU decides to implement sanctions.” LINK

The resolution passed on Thursday called on European Union member states to “continue to isolate Russia in international forums,” encouraging the European Council “to prioritize the approval of the EU Magnitsky-style human rights sanctions” against what it called “the Russian regime.”

532 MEPs voted for the resolution, 84 were against and 72 abstained. A total of 688 out of the registered 705 MEPs took part in the voting. The resolution is advisory in nature and not legally binding, intended to provide policy recommendations for EU governments.

In addition to damaging Europe-Russia relations generally, it now appears that the main objective of the allegations surrounding the incident is to use it as a pretext to block the completion and commissioning of the Nord Stream II gas pipeline, as the European Parliament resolution also reiterated its “previous position to halt the Nord Stream 2 project.” LINK

Although Germany is resisting demands that it cancel the project, the US has been orchestrated a campaign against the project’s completion for several years and imposing increasingly onerous punitive measures against companies involved in the project.

In an interview early this week US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo again urged European countries to impose additional sanctions on Russia, and commented that the US is trying to form a coalition of countries to coordinate the punitive measures. The United States imposed sanctions against the project in December 2019, demanding that all companies involved in the project stop construction immediately. The sanctions were amplified earlier this year.

In an interview with Bild, Pompeo repeated Washington’s claims that the gas pipeline creates economic and security risks for Europe, as it becomes dependent on Russian gas, as well as threatening Ukraine, and further asserted that this “deeply worries many Germans.”

During the interview Pompeo stated: “We hope that the construction of the Nord stream 2 will not be completed, we are working to make sure that a coalition will be created to prevent this. We hope that the German government will come to the same conclusion, because of what happened with Navalny, or because of the real consequences for security, due to dependence on Russian gas.” LINK

Russian energy giant Gazprom is the sole shareholder of Nord Stream 2 AG. European partners-Royal Dutch Shell, OMV, Engie, Uniper, and Wintershall-collectively are financing 50% of the project.

Several European countries have also been opposed to the project for some time:

The U.S., several European countries, including the Baltic states and Poland, as well as the European Union (EU), have expressed concern about Russia using gas sales and its gas monopoly Gazprom as a political tool.

The US and its collaborators in the campaign to block Nord Stream II (and instead supply Europe with much more expensive gas from the US) have also been recruiting support from opposition groups in countries that have not joined their campaign. The supposedly isolated events and incidents are converging just as EU leaders are due to hold a summit on 24-25 September which could be crucial to the prospects of the Nord Stream 2 project in the immediate future.

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johnny rotten

The States are not able to provide an alternative to the 55 billion annual gas of NS2, their aim is to make Russia economically support the miserable states of Eastern Europe, making Russian gas transit through their countries, and making them earn billions of transit rights, but if Russia gets angry and closes NS1 for Europe, the cold season will be impossible to overcome.

Антон С

“the miserable states of Eastern Europe”
Fresh fact about miserability. Pribaltika, Latvia was known as Spratland by the reason of big production of canned sprats. Now they lost their last plant (established in the end of 19th century). Equipment was sold to Kaliningrad, which trades sprats to Pribaltika.

johnny rotten

They only have two things to sell, russophobia and cheap labor, when the €U stops subsidizing them it will be hell for them.

Aquilegia

Poland and Lithuania lives and dies on EU subsidies.

Jens Holm

I dont know much about Latvia. We have Larvians here and there in the Danish farmland.

But I do know Paland has improved a lot and come from very poor in most of its countryside.

It seemes You ignore people from Latvia, Belarus and Ukraine actually come to there because there are jobs better then theirs – And poles are many places in EU sernding money home.

We in EU knows it takes time and it also has its up and down and most of us had prefared Duda as Leader.

You reallly dont get that Your “subsidies” mainly are investments and by that we put in other investmenets creating higher income and tax for the state – which correct – is in minus by supporting old farming too much.

The attitude for changes in Poland is good. Their GDP is higher then Russian pr capita even it can be difficult to compare. So is Latvia, Estonia and Lituania.

I am optimistic.

Jens Holm

The EU help is based on income and livingstandards, so there is no stop. As dor Poland we also help by open laubior market, which nakes Latvians sending money home.

And the money in the same way is for the wealthy ones.

I would say those people has every reason to have fobia against Russians, which even tell their great father liberated them.

And who made them poor. The Russian political and economic collpase by the Comecon plundering.

Антон С

Over 1/4 of population is working abroad now. What will be after the end of subsidies? 50%? 75%? After closing all their plants they could return to agriculture, but EU ruined it by their quotas and policy of supporting agrosector of major EU states. They have payed money to farmers in small countries for stop production. Bulgarian vegetables (especially paprica, or bulgarian pepper) were well known in the USSR, same as hungarian canned pea “Globus”. Now it’s in the past. Bulgaria buying tomatoes from Turkey.

Jens Holm

I think its about we dont eat them anymore.

In the old days Denamrk inported a lot of them canned. Local it was Kieler Sprats(Germany) but alos a lot from italy and Spain.

Maybee they are gone … too. But a lot of fish do eat them – heerings and makrills do and we eat them. None eat us.

A plant is no production. We ca make mp0dern factories for almost anything simple from day to day and also improve logistics for it. Maybee Kalingrad has a museum for that old facility…

But its true Latvia by tradition has low productive farmland and also some fishing. But I will remind about Riga. It became a very big and very industrialized zone by Germans and Jews and was ex and importer for the whole inland.

There is hope but the hope also i based on a succesrate and not only in Balarus.

Some might forget that Latvia also is a very small country. By that some hear, hunting and tourisme counts well. Riga was very important for Germans and the whole Baltics.

Lone Ranger

U.S. and UK both had a serious propane shortage last winter and had to buy propane gas from Russia.
Without that tens of thousends of Brits and Americans would have died.
Let that sink in for a moment.

verner

but propane is not the same as natural gas but a by-product from refining crude oil, i.e. the lightest stuff in the crude.

Lone Ranger

Still its used by millions to heat their house.

verner

doubt that – mostly used for camping cooking and so on.

Jens Holm

We still use them in houses whichh are far from others and also as You write for cooking. They are used in old sommerhouses too.

Those silently are replace by solar electricity and pumping by elctricity for varm air and water.

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Most used Danish version. The smaller ones are for camping. The biggest ones often are used in industriel facilities for melting and connecting metals but also used for making all kinds of art things made by glass.

Jim Allen

Nope, it’s widely used in home heating in regions LNG lines do not extend. I live in one of those regions.

PZIVJ

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Robert Ferrin

Your wrong for many many heat their home in N.Y. with propane and I’m sure its the same in all other states with cold weather.!!!!

Jens Holm

More should learn more and better. We produce methan from cows and pigs. Its low in % but its there.

HiaNd

Fart catchers

PZIVJ

One of the jobs of the Saudi refinery that was hit by drones, is to rectify the oil to make it safer for transport. To remove any Methane (natural gas).
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Scaathor

Hmm.. not really. Propane mostly comes for fractionation of natural gas. Petroleum has some low-mass volatiles but is mostly C6+ and only a small mass fraction comes out as condensable gasses.

verner

propane is called liquified petroleum gas and thus is a by-product from refining crude oil and that goes for butane as well, propane mostly sold in small tanks and used in pleasure-boats and caeavans and such like contraptions.

verner

and will give the yankee-twats all the arguments they will ever need. I’d say ‘stay calm and keep working’ to th russians and the germans.

Jens Holm

The never said to. You again tell a lie and conclude as You wish.

Here You of course also ignore EU has a gamechanger plan forr enegy production and consumption, which slower then expected seemes to replace the minerals.

Антон С

That’s why Pompeo and other inhabitants of Fash… Washington should fly at Jupiter as was spoken before. PUmpeo keeps pumping aggressive stupidity.

The Objective

They don’t give a shit about your complaint. Russia is getting what it deserves. Russia’s foreign policy has been bullish. their involvement in wars that have nothing to do with Russia (Egypt, Libya, and soon other weak countries) is just the same as America’s bullying of weaker countries. Sanction them until they have little left to spend on dictators.

Russia is a country I used to love. But by supporting dictators across the Muslim world, they’ve gone too far. Even America which created the conditions for dictatorship in the Muslim world is distancing itself from both Sisi and Haftar, providing only covert and minimal support. Because America knows there’ll soon be a backlash as these dictators aren’t likely to last long.

Russia which benefits only little from propping up Sisi and Haftar don’t seem to see the storm coming. They even labelled the Muslim Brotherhood terrorists. So what happens if Sisi and Haftar are toppled? Russia’s influence in the Middle East will wane further. Anyone calling the Muslim brotherhood terrorists is calling EVERY Sunni Muslim a terrorist. Because a great majority of us believe in the same values as the Muslim brotherhood – An Islamic democracy like what we see in Turkey. Modesty and Spirituality coupled with Science and modernity.

More sanctions are in the pipelines. Here’s a pretty broad list of what we already have: https://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/IF10779.pdf

Feel how good it is to oppress others just because you are stronger and feel immune to any reprisals from the reactions of Muslims in Egypt, Libya, Syria, and maybe soon Mali.

Robert Ferrin

Well I don’t think anyone ever said you had rational thoughts.I agree with Putin kill the terrorist even if they are the crapper.!!!

The Objective

We’ll see who wins in the end

Sauron

Block them pipes. Shale is the way

Lone Ranger

In CIA funded Disney movies…

Sauron
Lone Ranger

Cute ?

Sauron

also watch lucas the spider:)))

Lone Ranger

Thanks ?

Daily Beatings

Shale and fracking is dead. Companies are losing billions of dollars due to reduced demand and investors are pulling the plug:

The Great American Shale Oil & Gas Massacre: Bankruptcies, Defaulted Debts, Worthless Shares, Collapsed Prices of Oil & Gas

Do you seriously do any research before you type this nonsense?

Sauron

then why worry? its all good, maza rasha will survive the winter:)))

Lone Ranger

U.S. Empire is crumbling fast…

Lone Ranger

Pimpeo Harkonnen is crying and raging :)

Tommy Jensen

Thats not the only thing Russia has been doing.
Imagine Russia mixing natural gas with Novichok or Corona in the gaspipes to EU, like they also did under the Bubonic Plague targetting innocent Americans living in Europe in the year 1350. Black Death directly into the gas pipes to Europe and what were the consequences?

Up to 10 million innocent Americans and 200 million Cafe Expresso drinkers in Europe and North Africa died the black death during the 14’th century.
That is why we in America is blocking the NStream2. To save you in Europe!

Who ruled in Russia at that time? Ivan the 1’st Terrible, Grand Prince of Vladimir, successor of Alexander the suizidal!! Whatta coincidence! Ivan Terrible, Vladimir and Suicidal.
The red line up to days date is obvious for those who can THINK, and for those who dont have birdbrain.

Lone Ranger

Sarcasm detected…

occupybacon

You don’t say

Lone Ranger

?

Potato Man

Is this a American school joke?

Jens Holm

Pompeo also could send in cars, so they would need the fuel and oil themself.

rightiswrong rightiswrong

You’re a cracker Tommy, keep it up, lol.

HB_Norica

Pffft …. Corona doesn’t mix with gas …. it was served with a twist of turnip in 1350 because limes weren’t invented yet.

paolinks

Cafe Expresso? An indian tribe? :D

HiaNd

“1’st Terrible” was the last “Terrible” and was successful and good ruler…
Anything that was good for Russia was “terrible’ for the Britt’s
That’s why Britts called him “Terrible” just like they try to present Putin as “poisoner”.

Tommy Jensen

Ivan I, the Nutcase, Grand Duke of Moscow from 1325, Vladimir from 1332.
Ivan II the Fair, Prince of Moscow and Grand Prince of Vladimir in 1353.
Ivan III the Great, Grand Prince of Moscow and Grand Prince of all Russia 1440.
Ivan IV the Terrible, Grand Prince of Moscow 1533, 1’st Tsar of Russia to 1584.
Ivan V the Disabled, joint Tsar of Russia (with Peter I) 1666.
Ivan VI the prisoner, Emperor of Russia in 1740–41.
Ivan the Fool, Russian folklore hero, 1886.

The list of Ivan continues only in Croatia noble families. All were terribles.

HiaNd

So what to say….”All were terribles.” ?!

It is obviously your personal crusade and vendetta against all Ivan’s

Cheryl Brandon

more dumbrase American bullshit.

Potato Man

Who chose Pompeo? No, why did anyone thought he is a “good” pick?
He is the first person to have served as both the nation’s top spy (A.K.A Zion pig) and top “diplomat”.

The fat fuk (Pompeo) thinks and really believe in pushing other countries under pressure would change things (but the same time he is Zion spy). Trump is stupid but he doesn’t want to start a war/s, but he is making shit worse with that fat fuk, Both of them have deep wallet with Zion and Wahhabis.

Ofc Trump lied like the other fukers and if he win again there will be a war, they all done it. Biden is fuked in head as well…no matter what, the next 4 years is shit and more bitching

Aquilegia

If EU wishes to accelerate de-industrialization by reducing competitiveness further, it is their choice. China and other South East Asian nations are laughing all the way to the bank. America would laugh as well, but they don’t have enough competitive products by themselves to take advantage.

IMHO

I understand economic competition but this sounds more like a subversive act of war.

Lone Ranger

U.S. isnt competitive anymore.
They can only twist arms and sanction.
Free trade my ass…

Volker

The AmeriCunts can’t compete in anything Fair & Square…that’s their Problem and they have done IT to themselfs over decades.

Jens Holm

It has at least two sides. By a gas buffer and some gas people are less hastage in a confrontation.

Thats why I like winpower even I know in only 200 days of the Year can cover all electricity. We are not like any just can turn off the light and the plan is, we can save more energy by batteries.

Our problem now is we dont cover the 165 days well and still have a system for that – too. But we have closed down 2 very big powerplants and – as far as I know it – dont use dirty coal anymore.

More effective use improves too, but now we also has to have electricy for cars. Last week a new facility was made. It covers up to 100.000 inh. more.

http://vindparkthorup-sletten.dk/DK.aspx

So yes of course its about politics and economy often are connected hard. I just try to illustrate, that there can be 3 or more solutions.

Harry Smith

It’s war not against Russia but Germany. In fact it is more profitable for Russia to sell LNG then pipeline gas. Because LNG means spot price while pipeline always is for long term contracts. And pipeline gas price directly depends of Brent oil price. In plus, Russia has huge underground gas deposits and can sell gas when it is on highest price.
Germany is direct competitor of USA because they produce same categories of products as USA and Germany is 4th biggest economy in the World. NS2 means future for Western Europe. No NS2 = no future.

Tommy Jensen

True. Its the old problem with the hard working Germans since the beginning of 1900.
They produce too much of quality, work too hard and have the coal and iron ores to be a big industrial nation.
Germany is a thorn in the eyes of Victoria and her Global bankers. A country they only can control through WW’s and constant hybrid wars and heavy debt obligations.
To close Nstream2 is one way of keeping Germany down and subdued, Clima Change and green projects are other tools, too high emissions on German quality cars a third tool.

HiaNd

Good comment that removes lots of prejudice and ignorance on this subject.
In the longer run Russia will be better off with Asian market than with Europe for sure.
US is doing unwanted favor to Russia

Harry Smith

As I understand situation, the EU market is very attractive for Gasprom due to it’s huge current volume. But Russian pipeline gas is tied up to Brent oil price, that means Russia can not control the price now. When it will be spot price for gas because it’s futures will be sold on gas exchanges, the 2 major gas exporters Russia and Qatar would be able to control the global LNG prices.
So the closing of the NS2 project will be really good deal for Russia. Because Germany government must pay around 8 blns of euros to the companies which are in the project and because Russia would be able to sell gas with higher price without any major image losses.

HiaNd

Very informative! Thank you!
You are so well informed, that goes beyond ordinary interpreting of the articles on the subject and what is available in everyday news.
Was that part of the contracts (one of the main pre-conditions ) that pipeline gas is linked on Brent oil price?
So why didn’t Russia choose the more profitable path earlier if really that good?!
Germany’s biggest penalties will be much more expensive gas in the future, isn’t it ?

Harry Smith

Russia had no LNG contracts due to the absence of LNG infrastructure in both EU and Russia. In plus there was a pipelines system in Eastern and Central Europe constructed in the times of USSR. And pipelines worked well until EU started to gain control over the national energy sovereignty of EU states.
But now EU has LNG infrastructure built thanks to USA. So Russia just invested in it’s own LNG infrastructure and voila.

HB_Norica

The economic / power structure of the current world order was forged in the World wars of the 20th century.

Hitler’s vision was a Eurasian land empire fuelled with Russian resources. He envisioned the USA as a rising maritime power that would supplant the British Empire and … due to Germany’s food and resource poor geographical situation …. the only way that Germany could compete as a world power was to seize the food and resources rich lands in the east.

He came close to achieving that in WW2.

I’m sure some Americans have read Mein Kampf so they know this and there is no way they can allow a Eurasian super state with German engineering, Russian resources and Chinese manufacturing.

As long as Eurasia remains divided the USA is relevant as a defender of “western culture” from “asiatic hordes”, defender of the sea lanes and the worlds banker.

If Russia, Germany and China start cooperating and form a trading block NATO becomes irrelevant, there are now overland alternatives to shipping at sea and there is no longer any point to having the USD as a reserve currency …. in other words the USA’s only value to Eurasia is as a market for their goods.

Harry Smith

I read Mein Kampf and your view is very simplified. And even more, Hitler changed some fundamentals in his approach after Mein Kampnf was published.
As for Germany, Russia and China there is a project called “Europe from Brest to Vladivostok”, but there is no China in it. The road and belt initiative does not includes Europe. The World is more complicated mechanism than most people think.

HB_Norica

“I read Mein Kampf and your view is very simplified.”

I read it too. How else do you condense ideas from one of the most poorly written books of the 20th century into a comment post WITHOUT simplifying it.

“Hitler changed some fundamentals in his approach after Mein Kampnf was published.”

Bullshit. Hitler followed the plan he laid out in Mein Kampf …. he made changes as the situation dictated it but he followed his plan. He was not only at war but in the biggest war in history against an enemy that he grossly underestimated. Conquering and absorbing a huge landmass while depopulating it was a much larger task than he realized.

“As for Germany, Russia and China there is a project called “Europe from Brest to Vladivostok”, but there is no China in it.”

China is Germany’s largest trading partner and they are working on a huge bi-lateral investment deal with China which the USA is doing it’s best to scuttle. It’s not working.

“The road and belt initiative does not includes Europe”

Oh it certainly does. Why do you think it terminates at Beiruit … a port on the Mediterranean? The goal is to dominate pan eurasian / African trade. China’s strategy is to cut out the middle man and sell Chinese brands directly to consumers all over the world instead of jobbing for companies like Apple.

This is why guys like Trump are so scared of China. Selling off brand electronics and $1000 cars to Pakistani’s and Turkmen doesn’t step on America’s toes but cutting Apple off at the knees and selling a full line of vehicles designed by Germans and sold to Europeans does.

Harry Smith

If you want to understand the Chinese goal in the new Silk Road and never heard about Chinese Eastern Railway economic miracle for Chinese – it’s a really good time to start researching the subject. At my point, China will use declining but still big EU market to take controls over the markets in central and middle Asia.

Julio
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verner

the jews in palestine – nothing else. bury them deep and the quicker the better since no peace for the ME as long as one jew remains in palestine.

Jens Holm

USA already has optimized its influence in those matters. EU will delay the project and make Putin loose much money. So Nordstream is more a hostage fx for calm and nice Russia behaving.

Pavlov is here… not Pompeo.

occupybacon

Or like in that book, Shogun, with the black ship hunt, Putin will start building a new stream every time one is canceled.

Lone Ranger

Sofar every pipe succeded and the U.S. failed every time…

Jens Holm

I dont see that. I might be blind. If they wish they now even can export oil and are not dependent anymore.

But they have failed here and ther very much too. Venezuela is a good example. Hard to makes camel fly even the want to.

Lone Ranger

Adjust your meds Jens…

NeuroProctologist

Well, they did manage to block Southstream.

But this got them nothing less than Turdstream and NS2. So it’s more like ‘if you try to chop of a Medusa’s head’…

Also:
[x] bonus achievement Turkstream: Dislodge Turkey some more from the west
[x] bonus achievement NS2: Produce more tensions between the EU and US

The US really doesn’t want to see what would come out of NS2 going down the shitter! Russia will play a new hand of cards and make new gains, while the climate between Germany and the US will still be poisoned. And it’s not like the EU had too much choices in buying cheap and reliable energy anyway, so Russia’s energy sales to Europe is not going to decrease anytime soon.

Lone Ranger

Turkstream is basically Southstream only the entry point was moved from Bulgaria to Turkey.
But yes, you are spot on.

Volker

It’s basically SouthStream 2.0 the goal for the blackmail/force on Bulgaria to ditch the project was #1 to stick it to the Russians w/o any care if it harmed Bulgarian economy because they [mainly US] give a total fuck. #2 prevent the extension to Serbia and it killed the extension to Greece, just collateral damage, but the blackmailers didn’t give a fuck about them as well. The Bulgarians got a 2nd chance got back onboard and the extensions to Serbia + Greece are back on the agenda.

Lone Ranger

Indeed.
Russia plays chess the U.S. checkers.
Also I would love to see countries stand up to the U.S.
Look at my country small Hungary.
$200billion GDP 9.6million people and we aint cucking for Uncle Sam.
95% of our gas and oil comes from Russia.
And they are building two brand new reactors for us for $14billion that will increase our energy production by 60%.
Its called free trade.
U.S. looks more and more like the old Soviet Union while Russia is turning into the good ol U.S. of A in its prime.
Ironic…

Jim Allen

Ah, yes Hungary is on US Government shit list since it dropped Central Bank as it’s reserve bank.
That’s good work.

Jens Holm

ell people actually do. There are a lot of plans and some comes through. Syris is not only about Assads but also the Kirkuk pipeline.

And if americans dont control it Assad and Russia or anybody else will. The transportation to the Persian Gulfs long and now and then too small.

Using Syria again also will save Suez or around Africa for the uopean part.

I loved Shogun but has only seen all of it twice.

occupybacon

I didn’t see the movie but I doubt it ends like the book. Europeans shoould do their part, Macron and Johnson were all ‘Assad must go’ but when Trump said, it’s time for others to show up, only Erdogan showed to the party

Jens Holm

Haha. I dnt know there is a book. Now I hope for a deep dark winter with cold rain:)

The movie probatly is more like a good Robin Hood version…

The Warlord says to the Pilot that the warlord hesitates making war against the Japanese King. And the Pilot says: If You win, You decide.

And the warlord turn red, looks very angry – and smile.

NeuroProctologist

USA are planing their policies on the basis of a legislative period. That’s about 4 years, give or take. And they are very good in optimizing the outcome over that time-span. They are also predominantly interested in, however short lived this may be, media victories.

This is not how Russia operates (or China, for that matter). Those evil dictatorships (TM) are ‘losing money’ left and right by not playing by the rule book of international Fiat Money anyway. But what does Russia or China lose out on if they don’t buy the latest stealth fighter or have facetwitter create revenue by the quadrizillions anyway?

Why should they worry about the costs they have to pay to achieve their long term political goals, if only those targets can be reached in the end?

Others are spending virtual money on aircraft carriers full of junk, only to achieve some immediate dominance until the moment those ships sink for whatever reason. What remains after that is what counts. And this is what all the west’s adversaries are after: dominance AFTER the current si

verner

coalition of who – poland and the baltic states, not sweden and not finland. czech rep, nah doubt that but bulgaria and romania if the cash incentive is good enough.

jade villaceran

russia must give them ultimatum, if the ns2 didnt operate on expected times, all gas production/sales will be sent to asia, nothing will left to europe, let the usa supply them with those expensive/freedom gas,

lets see what will be the reaction of ordinary european people

HiaNd

What would be purpose and benefit?
They can NOT stop NS1 and deliveries guaranteed by contracts !
They can’t “punish” those countries for wanting to buy more expensive gas!!!
It is their right to buy more expensive !!!

Russia was building ever since USSR days image of RELIABLE supplier that never blackmails their customers into anything and always respects all contracts!

They can not brake contracts with EU and sell gas only to China and LOSE ALL potential CUSTOMERS in Asia because of ruined reputation.
Also Russia is member of WTO and EU countries would take Russia to the court as member of WTO for breaching the contracts ad demand huge penalties !

jade villaceran

then after all the contracts are expired they shouldnt renew it since most of them dont want russia to expand their businesses in their countries, im not talking about monopoly of china, im talking about all asian countries, the future is in the east and westerns are in decline, maybe some european countries may join the boat with russia sailing to the east

HiaNd

The future is Asia we do agree on that.
Russia is huge boat that doesn’t need to “sail” to the east.
They must integrate more in Asia and abandone Europe

Mike

Try to imagine any smuck of a politician being killed in any other country with a poison. Do anyone believes that others will want to sanction the country or would barely talk about it? The answer is quite simple, isn’t? Yet, this Navalny thing which was clearly fixed from day one, creates an uproar in some European countries. Anyone with a fully functioning brain would read the story and would immediately see it for what it was. By the way, since it was now on a water bottle, did the people who made the room got sick when he or she grabbed that bottle to put it in the bin?

When something like this happens, ask yourself a simple question. Who gains from this? Certainly not Russia! Furthermore, why would Russia risk so much over a nothing, finished politician who is next to zero of a threat to Putin?

The US will fail once again as those who can still use their brains will see this for what it truly was. Furthermore, Merkel knows full well that Germany needs the gas from Russia. All major industries already warned some German politicians about trying to stop Nord Stream 2. Americans couldn’t careless about Europe. All they want is to sell their “freedom gas” at a much higher price. Oh yes, that’s how they call gas…”freedom gas”. Can they be anymore dumber? They don’t understand just how most are laughing at them.

America is now just a joke. Like all previous empire, they are losing power world-wide and are seeing others challenging them and making them look like the fools that they are. Being the cowards that they are, they use deceptions to try to have others fight for them. They need coalitions to attack countries who cannot match firepower so imagine what they need to go against Russia or China? They have tried for the past 6 years to push Europe against Russia and failed time and time again. They tried in Asia against China and again, failing big time as their so called allies openly stated that they will not go against their biggest trade partner. The US is in a slow death. They know it hence threatening anyone that refuses to play their games.

Stop the transatlantic partnership with the US and watch them beg to get back within 6 months. The dollar would tank immediately and citizens will want the heads of all American politicians that created their misery. Sure, others will suffer for it but they will adapt by re-investing in other countries. It’s a small price to pay to get rid of the Kings of terrorism.

Lone Ranger

CIA trolls are crying and raging :)

Mike

CIA, Mossad, and MI6. They all work hand in hand to try to bring down Russia.

Lone Ranger

They will fail this time.

Scaathor

They will fail EVERY time. They will never achieve their twisted aims.

Tommy Jensen

This time they are up against Americans, the most winning nation in Olympic.
US 1127 gold medals, Sovjet 473 gold medals, Germany 283 gold medals, China 237 gold medals.

Lone Ranger

U.S. has the best dope…
Plus medical waivers to use them…

Cheryl Brandon

INDEED.

Jens Holm

There are too many examples in Russia for, that any change can be done even from a very sober opposition.

And true. Some old Chinese said, that if there was at least 2 oppinions about a case, there always was at least 3 more. So asnything is not impossible.

But I also allow me to see the Russian population has changed and see things better. So we alos see mopre dare to be open even they know they as son as possible wil be neutralized or worse.

Are people accepting a local elected new big boss – not even against Putin – with 70% of the votes and doing a hard and maybee dirty clean up should be removed like that.
……………………………………..

And You use a strange double talk. Why dont You be happy for US loose some influence and we all can use our freedom and responsability – as we wish.

Many here also are bland for, that China makes the cake to share bigger. They dont take much from us and a great part is used in China having bad omens since before Mao was born.
………………………………..

According oil I will say he prices of course are based on the market by the indexes. Butmost of the price right here mainly are all kinds of understandable and also strange kinds of tax. So we and USA actaulla can move up the sales prices by we take in more or less tax.

Its the same for all plastic products. The benefits often are several 1000% and they and we can calibrate with no bankrupsi. Many oilproducers dont get the benefits actually are there and not what some Brent is on the stockmarket.

Mike

I’m sorry but I have difficulties understanding most of what you brought in as a rebuttal to my post. I detected the old western propaganda about Russia and the part about “a strange double talk” in regards to the US which I’m not sure what you meant, but that’s pretty much it.

May I suggest trying to use a grammar and spell checker or perhaps a language tool for your browser? I’m not attempting to ridicule you but simply pointing at an obvious problem with your English writing skills.

PZIVJ

It’s a form of Dane-English.
Some of us have learned to interpret it, unless Jens is drunk of coarse. :)

Mike

I’m not into new languages :-(. If I have to read a post and attempt to interpret it, I am bound to make mistakes just as most will for that matter.

rightiswrong rightiswrong

Just block him, easier on the eye.

He’s been advised to get a translator a million times, and it’s impossible to believe the muppet has no understanding of English.

Mike

I realized that immediately after I posted my suggestion. Either he is playing games, or he just doesn’t have the skills to get it done. Either way, it’s quite annoying.

rightiswrong rightiswrong

He knows what he’s doing, I blocked him months ago, saves space on the page. lol

Icarus Tanović

I blocked him long ago.

Jaime Galarza

You can give him all the advice you want, but he will come tomorrow with the same type of gibberish. I wonder what his agenda is or whether he is just an idiot at times entertaining and at times annoying.

Icarus Tanović

First there were Sweden and Estonia against this pipeline, because it can ‘endanger’ some ‘sea algae’ or whatever. See how ridiculous they are willing to go? It is agood joke isn’t it?
I mean, it is clownish.

Mike

It’s the hypocritical side of it that amazes me, every time!

AJ

Jens usually writes gibberish I suspect he would do so even in his native language.

Mike

That was mean but could be true :-)

Cheryl Brandon

SINCE cHARLMAGNE FROM THE 9TH CENTURY, NOTHING HAS CHNAGED.

Icarus Tanović

That’s right my bro. Very well great analysis.

Mike

Thank you!

François

All right, the US are truly “fucking around”. Just look after YOUR business guys. Nord Stream II is European business. Rather watch your domestic scummy problems and social troubles, and LEAVE the other people alone. That’s so simple to understand, right? Stop behaving like desperate loosers.

HiaNd

Even though you are right, do not forget all those color revolutions including Maidan Ukraine..

They are not only “desperate losers” they menage to do plenty of evil things that work their way.
They must not be underestimated.
Even China had very big problems with Hong Kong which is microscopic part of their population but still…They have created plenty of problems to mighty China.

Ivan Freely

Too many useful idiots in HK.

HiaNd

True, but still when we compare numbers…10 000 active anarchists – “dissidents” is nothing to 1.4 billion population but plenty for one city to wreck total havoc when directly supported from outside of the country bu spies and NGO’s and similar crap.
Nobody has forced Lukhashenko to accept EU and US representatives and NGO’s .He wanted to please them, now he has lots of problems.

1azdeb2

Poland and Baltic States object? Poland wants the consumer sales. The pipeline is almost complete. Contract Agreements signed.

Cheryl Brandon

THE GERMANS WANT THE PIPELINE SO, THE PIPELINE WILL BE FINISHED. US 0 RUSSIA 3

cechas vodobenikov

amerikans have been liars and braggarts for 3 centuries
Daniel Boorstin
gas dependence is a canard; during soviet times Europe purchased Soviet gas and the feminized amerikans did not object…..Today as their LGBT empire is in tatters and they cANNOT COMPETE CULTURALLY, SOCIALLY economically they must resort to invasions, tariffs, sanctions and bribery
In 2016 Jimmy Carter remarked: “there is no functioning democracy in amerika. it is really just an oligarchy where political bribery determines the nominations and selection of all presidents governors senators and congress members”
likely most will claim that they live in a fake democracy or a fascist republic—far worse than North Korea

Pat Dunne

Pompeeoo is alienating the strongest economy in the EU. Somehow that just doesn’t sound like a great plan.

Suchen

WHAT THE WORLD REALLY NEEDS(!)
IS:

US DECLARES IT IS FORMING A COALITION TO BRING MERKEL TO AN END !

Cheryl Brandon

It is not going to happen. Germany and Russia intend to complete the line soon.

Cheryl Brandon

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