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Ukrainian Helicopters Successfully Strike Oil Depot In Belgorod, Russia

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Ukrainian Helicopters Successfully Strike Oil Depot In Belgorod, Russia

In the early hours of 1 April, a Ukrainian helicopter team of two Mi-24 helicopters successfully hit a large oil depot in the border city of Belgorod, Russian Federation.

According to the Belgorod regional governor, the fire at the Belgorod oil depot was caused by an airstrike from two helicopters of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which entered Russian territory at a low altitude.

The fire has been assigned the first degree of difficulty.

According to preliminary information, two employees of the oil depot were injured – they have already received first aid, their lives are not in danger.

“All resources are available to fight the fire. The Emergency Ministry is trying to contain the fire as soon as possible. The population is not in danger,” said Governor of Belgorod Region.

Governor Vyacheslav Gladkov said that the residents of Pochtovaya, Makarenko and Konstantin Zaslonov streets near the oil depot were temporarily accommodated in the Belgorod Arena and would be able to return home after the fire was put out.

By 12:00 local time, the fire was almost completely extinguished.

 

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ron

DUMB RUSSIAN CUCKS ARE USELESS AT EVERYTHING. NATO FAGGOTS AND THEIR NAZI FUCKERS MUST BE LAUGHING. LEVEL UKRAINE TO THE GROUND!

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Clyde

We Will win this war we Will defend Belgorod to the last man. Retreat is not an options only in Ukraine

Carlo

Wake up! The war is over! At this point it is not even sure that you can liberate Mariupol from Nazis. The operations on all other fronts are stalled for a week now. I’m following News-Front and it does no more report information on Russian advances and tactical successes

IMHO

It doesn’t matter. This is all a big dog and pony show by all sides involved in order to institute the “great reset”.

Clyde

Poor Ukrotards still can’t put together two English sentences. How many oil facilities in the Ukrainian CIA project have been hit by the Russians?

Ryan

Sorry to ask but how come you are here 24/7? Don t you have a full time job?

Clyde

No need to be sorry. Thanks for thinking about me and keeping track.

Ryan

So is safe to assume you don t have a full time job?

B A

who cares. the real question is wtf is wrong with YOU!

G2 man

As I have objectively stated on numerous occasions, Russian ELINT and EW are very poor and substandard and even a third world military radar would have picked up two large MI-24 signature. Russia also supposedly had satellites and drones that should have picked up the helicopter base as MI-24 are not a small car that can be hidden in a barn. The engines also have a very big heat signature which any thermal imaging system would have picked. In 6 weeks of combat the Russians have not been able to neutralize Ukrainian helicopter bases and about six remaining air bases including the near border ones at Poltava and Dnipro. My own records show 13 major Ukrainian air and helo bases and so far only 7 have been hit or damaged. Ukrainians are also operating from western highways. Russia needs to up its game or more serious surprises will come as the puppet Japanese PM said ” Ukraine will have modern airdefences soon”. It appears as NATO is setting up medium to long range AD systems in western Ukraine and pushing low altitude systems to the Russian border.

On Feb 24th Ukraine had the following operational airbases with 97 combat aircraft and around 105 helicopters. There were around 30 MI-24 Hinds in operational condition. Russian airforce needs to get its house in order with more aggressive CAPS and BVR EW coverage. Ukrainians are being given live targeting info by US AWACS flying over Poland, Hungary, Romania and Slovakia. So these hit and run strikes are basically NATO strikes on Russia.

Военно-воздушные силы Украины (BBCУ) Bila Tserkva Chuhuiv Ivano/Frankivs’k Khmel’nyts’kiy Kiyiv/Boryspil Luts’k Melitopol Mykolaiv/Kulbakino Myrhorod Ozerne Starokostiantyniv Vasyl’kiv Vinnytsia/Gavryshivka

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Yamil Perez

Calm your tits it was a false flag. Russian air defense and EW is probably the best in the planet.

G2 man

I would beg to differ. I post only factual comments and have no personal dogs in this fight. Russia has performed sub-par so far and needs to pick up its game. Russian airforce has not been able to control the skies in 6 weeks.

zoso

You’re just a ZOG propagandist. Your claims are neither objective nor factual – lol.

But it’s all you got, I know.

Jimmy

Russia’s War Lacks a Battlefield Commander, U.S. Officials Say Russia is running its military campaign against Ukraine out of Moscow, with no central war commander on the ground to call the shots, according to American officials who have studied the five-week-old war.

That centralized approach may go a long way to explain why the Russian war effort has struggled in the face of stiffer-than-expected Ukrainian resistance, the officials said.

The lack of a unifying military leader in Ukraine has meant that Russian air, ground and sea units are not in sync. Their disjointed battlefield campaigns have been plagued by poor logistics, flagging morale and between 7,000 and 15,000 military deaths, senior U.S. officials and independent analysts say.

Cromwell

US officials say,who gives a rats arse what they say?

Clyde

If US officials say it, it’s got to be true. They’ve batted 1.000 since they drove to the Yalu River in 1950 secure in the knowledge that the PRC would never cross the border into Korea.

zman

I would give US officials no credibility whatsoever. They can only lie and use propaganda. The US itself has a very simple policy. Blow everything to hell. These same officials are trying to send weapons to Ukraine to what end? They know, without a doubt, that any such actions will make no difference in the end. Everything that comes from the Pentagram is propaganda, usually aimed at Americans. These statements come from those that were so successful in Iraq and Afghanistan. How well are these geniuses doing against Iranian tactics? How many times has Iran hit actual US bases and assets? How many such attacks were accomplished against Iran?

Yamil Perez

BS and you know it.

zman

I would be tempted to agree on the basis of my comment above.

Johny cash

Tell me what happened to their army. How comes its been degraded to such extent. Im lost for words

G2 man

Russian army has not been in a major conflict since Afghanistan circa 1980’s and has been degraded with lack of funds and poor quality leadership as is quite obvious. The worst error was not to send at least half a million men as Ukraine is twice the size of Iraq and twice the population as well. It has also been armed to the teeth by NATO with over 20,000 ATGM and 3,000 manpads and now low and mid altitude SAM systems.

The Russian intelligence both at GRU and SVR failed to gauge the prevalence of NATO advisers and arms for over a decade in Ukraine. The average Russian soldier is second to none, but were not properly briefed or led by competent officers in most cases. The long convoys without infantry and special forces umbrella on wooded Ukrainian roads was a recipe for disaster as even a squad of Ukrainians are armed with over 10 NLAW and Javelins. With aggressive infantry and air support, this can be very costly as these are fire and forget weapons. Why do you thing the US and its NATO lagdogs never invaded Iran, a country twice the size of Ukraine and even more nationalistic and hostile.

The most obvious flaw in Russian tactics was not to use overwhelming force as this is total war and there is no place for hesitancy or softness. I still believe if Russia changes its tactics it will prevail. This a marathon and not a sprint. The Russians now need to look at their strategy and tactics and amend them with a more robust approach. I am sure what Russian ammo supply chain is like as they need to ramp up production and go on war footing. Russia and Belarus have over 150 million people and just by sheer dint of numbers will be able to grind down Ukraine. It will take time, but if Russia gets ruthless, the operation will conclude must faster. Russia also has to mobilize its reserves and move them closer to the western borders and in Belarus.

No NATO lapdog will fight for Ukraine and China has a lot riding on Russian success too as it is definitely the next target.

zoso

Where is the real evidence for any of your claims? US/NATO/Ukraine is losing big time and you know it.

zman

No, there is no real evidence, only suppositions based on western tactics. Tactics, I might add, that have failed time and again in the end. They also are instrumental in the economic destruction of the west. Western tactics are designed to totally destroy an enemy, infrastructure and to terrify the population. That Russia has a different end game in mind, these so-called tactics (in truth, war crimes)have no place. Comparing the actions of NATO to the actions of the RF is comparing apples to oranges. The end game is completely different. RF tactics only appear incompetent in the face of tactics that leave everyone dead (especially the civilian population), the infrastructure completely destroyed and the economy decimated…the ‘freedom’ they bring is freedom from life, the democracy is everyone equally being dead or starving and homeless. One look at Raqqah and the differences are readily apparent. There are still dead buried in the rubble that used to be a thriving city…attacked with no warning or consideration of civilians whatsoever. With the exception of those areas attacked by the western stooges, there is no equivalent in Ukr…and certainly none in RF attacked areas. That there may have been RF failures in leadership will only be truly apparent after the fact…and we’re not there yet. When this over and done with, I would venture to say that the reputation of the RF will be far and above that of the US/NATO/EU. That the western press hides any support of the RF around the world is only more testimony that the west is losing the propaganda war. It is ONLY their word that tells us that Russia is hated. In contrast, it is readily well known the reputation of the US/NATO. Ask the Europeans what they think of the US next winter.

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FreeManSon

Spot on! And lack of javelin repellent is one major flaw I just can’t figure out why it has not been invented and implemented. Also Russia don’t use technology such as thermal cameras on a drone that could have easily showed positions inside buildings in Mariupol for example. Send in the drone first…seek out enemy and then enter. Now they are going in blindly and are getting hammered. That is why using old men is obsolete in higher ranks, they just can’t keep up with the tech.

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G2 man

5th generation war is about technology and small highly motivated units with light ATGM and mappads. The era of tanks and massed attacks is over. look at the Houthis beating the Saudi half a trillion dollar military to a pulp. Hezbollah did the same to the Zionists, and the Americans were smart enough not to take on the Iranians who have over twice the population and land mass of Ukraine and a much more highly motivated nationalistic population. The Chinese would fare better in Taiwan as it is a small island and can not be resupplied. The main Russian problems stems from lack of aggressive air campaign or use of combined mass missile and artillery. Perhaps, they did not gather adequate stocks for a long campaign.

Arzt Injektion

The Javelins are an abject failure. They weigh too much, take too much time to set up. They are being abandoned all over the battlefield. Not one video this entire campaign showing a hit with one.

None

Russia did not expect total war as they should have. Judging by troop strength they only expected to achieve their stated goal.A peace deal would be the logical solution to this. This is has been a NATO trap in the making for 8 plus years. your assessment is painful.I hold my breath as Russia will be put to the ultimate test. But remind you of past wars and the will of the Russian people.

G2 man

If Russians mobilized they will certainly win much faster. They also need to be more ruthless.

zman

Yes, let them take page from the US/NATO playbook. They will certainly be hated afterwards…just as the US/NATO is hated. Just because the west has no qualms whatsoever towards war crimes, even though they themselves wrote the rules, do not be so stupid to think they would not use said ‘laws’ against the RF. Are they not already calling Putin a war criminal, calling for charges?…yet not a fucking word about Bush(s), Clinton, Obama, Trump and Biden? GMAFB.

zman

Fuck a ‘peace deal’. One look at the proposed guarantors and that is a recipe for disaster. Have you ever read the propositions? Kadyrov is not on board such a thing and nether is DLPR. The entire gov of Ukraine is guilty of war crimes by orders issued and actions taken. It would be an affront to the lives lost. Liberate the east and neuter the rest. Then let’s talk peace.

Peppe il Sicario

Says the guy whose US Armed Farces haven’t won anything since WW 2!!! Fact is the US can only expect to win and have an advantage is in the propaganda war at this point and even that will show its limits. It’s supposed super high tech multi-billion dollar armaments are a joke. Tiny Serbia showed that to the letter already in 1999 with an Air Defense capability a fraction, a hundredth no less, of what Ukraine had going into this war. Yet, they embarrassed the US Air Force shooting down its stealth F-117 and damaging a $1 billion B-2 stealth bomber using 1960s missles like the S-125 and Kub. Can you immagine what they would have done with 200 S-300 launchers on top of all the BuK and Tor systems that Ukraine had in its inventory? Serbia, also put out of commission 2 F-16s, shot down outright, 2 Apaches helos downed, damaged 2 F-15s beyond repair, another F-117 damaged beyond repair and over 50 Predator drones blown out of the sky!!!!! Then, on the ground, all that the US bombing campaign amounted to was just literally a handful of destroyed tanks and IFVs. Everything else was hidden in underground bunkers so, all the claims the US was making of destroyed enemy military hardware were ALL LIES from the Empire of Lies.

To further prove my point, the US Defense establishment, has just decided to graveyard a good portion of its F-22 Raptors, supposed 5th Generation Air Superiority fighers. Why? Cause they’re crap and are called “widow-makers” by even their own pilots. Only about 35 at tops are currently operational of a fleet of over 150. The USAF knows most would be shot down within a few hours by Russian AD. The F-35? Another con swindle by the corrupt criminal US defense industry. Stupid and slavish European NATO pilots will soon figure that out.

As a military analyst, save your breath. You are a clown and a complete disinfo idiot. My advice to you is to go back and play with your Xbox.

Truth Hurts

The downvotes are from die hard Putin fanatics who can’t tolerate some home truths about Russia’s poor shitshow in Ukraine. Or Syria for that matter. Pathetic.

G2 man

I am just stating facts as objectively as I can, based on my half a century of military and intelligence experience. I am sorry that some people feel hurt reading the obvious. Group Think and denial have caused a lot of defeats and pain in history. Hitler made similar mistakes and recently Saddam caused a similar mess invading Iran after being propped up by the west. Scott Ritter another military man and no fan of western policies has a similar discussion on Youtube, check it out.

Two things are very obvious, Russians did not realistically prepare for this conflict or had proper intel of logistics. The delayed timing to please China finish the Olympics also gave NATO an extra month to pour in more weaponry and the spring rains and soft snow on secondary roads created a mess for armor and heavy trucks. However, the ultimate problem is poor Russian leadership and inadequate mobilization. The lack luster use of airpower also need to be addressed.

zoso

You are projecting onto others the exact same thing you are guilty of. Quit your butt-hurt propagandizing. Man up and own your defeat.

zoso

You’re just a ZOG propagandist. Your claims are neither objective nor factual – lol.

But it’s all you got, I know.

rebello

The choppers are flown at very low altitudes. They did the same in Mariupol, although they were visually identified and shot down.

The problem with Russia is that it is big, as a big border with Ukraine and is sparsely populated. What I mean is that a chopper wouldn’t be able to fly over Moscow, but Belgorod is a different beast.

But it would be interesting to know what happened to the choppers after. I don’t think the russian AA weren’t activated at this point.

Arzt Injektion

What makes you think they wanted to intercept them?

zman

I found your post to be entertaining and somewhat informative. However, you make certain claims that are not backed up by facts. 1) RF EW/ELINT is substandard to 3rd world abilities. Please explain this to me to in relation to the Syrian experience. In 2017 NATO launched 2 attacks on Syria with over 170 cruise missiles. Many never reached the coast and only one hit anywhere near a target. There is also the Yemen experience. The Yemeni regularly penetrate (ostensibly NATO) KSA defenses and hit sensitive targets. As well this goes for UAE too. It is also worth mentioning that Yemeni weapons are extremely low tech, with NO onboard EW. Is it your position that NATO equipment is far worse than 3rd world RF weapons? It would seem so. 2) ”It appears as NATO is setting up medium to long range AD systems in western Ukraine and pushing low altitude systems to the Russian border.” Please elaborate and/or present proof of this or at least a rumor, not just western political statements. The borders you mention, are these in Ukr or on EU territory? I find it very difficult to believe that EU countries would allow such on their territory and Poland (a leading war monger) itself told the US they would facilitate aircraft transfers, but NOT from their territory, that the US would have to deliver them. That was the end of that idea. Ukr has had AD in these areas for some time, including OSA, TOR and BUK, which RF has been eliminating. 3) Mi-24s are not small and can’t be hidden in a barn. Really? How small are these barns you are referencing? Perhaps you meant auto garages? Considering that Ukr has had 8 years to prepare, they would have been quite negligent to not create hardened hangers camouflaged to be undetectable. Add to this NATO advice and this would be expected, as this is standard across the EU. Iran has done this in their country out of necessity as well. 4) You also state that the heat sigs alone should have been detected, to which I agree. But I do not agree that RF tech is so poor that they could not pick these up. Simple many-decades old IR tech is capable of this. 5) I find it very hard to imagine that while attacking this area, the Ukr forces would not find it tempting to attack other infrastructure as well as civies. It would be a golden opportunity for excellent propaganda, as well as raising troop morale. As it is, there are apparently no casualties and considering the target, little real damage which also seems strange. So what were the strategic results they were trying to accomplish? Political ammunition for talks? 6) Add to all this the idea that Russia is about to remove their gloves in the east of Ukr and begin to play hardball, another thought comes to mind. I feel it likely that RF has decided to go full tilt boogey to stop the attacks on civies in the east. I also feel that due to western propaganda, they feel the need for an emotional component to enable a much more robust and less discriminating policy. Possibly they have decided to take a page from the NATO playbook and performed a FF to enable this? Although Putin has widespread support for this effort, attacks on the RF proper could and likely would bring calls for more a robust military policy. Then there are the proposed talks and how they might be an influence…both in the RF and Ukr. Your comments on the lack of detection of these readily detectable aircraft only lends more credence to this possible scenario. 7) Then there is the possibility that this event is as presented, flaws and all. It would require a lot of luck and a lot of inconsistent as well as incompetent behavior on the part of the RF, but is possible. Their are techniques that would allow such penetration, such as very low altitude, but I find that a bit too much, considering RF Beriev A-100 Premier(AWAC) should be capable of detecting even this, not to mention spotters on the ground that do not require anything but eyeballs. Determining the location of departure would also be helpful in determining the validity of any proposed scenario. 8) In the end, I find your conclusion of ineffective RF hardware unqualified at best. Their technology has been showcased in Syria against NATO provocations and actions. While RF politically determined military policy/readiness may be questioned, I find no real evidence of RF hardware failures or inadequacies. IF you were to be correct on the issue of RF hardware, then you should issue a critique on the absolute ineffectiveness of NATO hardware as shown in KSA/UAE/Iraq, which I do not see. As far as policy or tactics, it is time itself that will do the telling. We will see.

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B A

I agree, there should be several recon pref’bly with ELINT capability strike aircraft like the Su-24M/MP (or Flanker equivalent) in the air at all time, armed with at least one medium range and one short range air-air missile patroling and ready to take out anything within minutes of notice.

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Observer197

i doubt Ukraine helo operations are still at fixed bases. They will have dispersed to the countryside and flown some distance at night low level to refuel somewhere before mounting the attack

AbdhulaJrThe9th

Yes yes, everyone thinks Russia needs to level Ukraine bla bla.

That’s what the west wants.

You western media outlets have lied about Russia and it’s people for decades, if Russia starts to fight like it’s enemies, using total destruction; than it will play into these lies and become the fictional enemy your news networks have been pushing, like a drug.

So every time I see someone posting this, I immediately think to myself, who did you work for/who do you support in this.

It would be hilarious if the CIA actually used these boards … like…hahaha…bored much?!

So by default it must be a bunch of civis or vets. Are you that brainwashed by the so called “Victories” of your own country?

Was killing a bunch of farmers and goat hoarders that fun for you? I mean after you totally levelled placed like Baghdad? Killing civilians and babies and children before any boots even walked in?

Prime example, funker360 or what ever his handle is, that guy hates brown people.

Why do you want Russia to exterminate civilians? Because it plays into the wests fantastical spun lies.

Get fucked bro…life is precious and it’s about time someone showed you this fact, enter Russia, welcome to a country that ain’t totally fucking evil.

But I bet some of you are totally perplexed by what you are seeing, knowing and carrying out orders of a truly despicable nation (leadership wise) like The US and Nat0; and still feeling like you are the hero must be a complete mind fuck when you watch Russia fight.

Anyways…I do agree on some points though, Russia needs to upgrade its drone game, thermal imaging tools and so much more.

This war is going to revolutionise the next war.

Tbh, G2, I see your comments as constructive and relevant, but your agenda is something totally different. You hide your true intentions behind your constructive arguments.

And those who blindly support Russia without even noticing your hidden agenda, is worrying. Without in-depth analysation mistakes can and will be made, that’s huge.

Bet my comment gets downed because I called on your BS and took a slight dig at people blindly discarding your comments and their hidden agenda is a huge mistake (using canned and parroted lines of “hey I support Russia stfu their military has no flaws” etc, every military has flaws or we’d all of been conquered by now. (A mistake that will be repeated in the future, fuck: the difference in standard between average human beings and Russian command is astounding, so fucking glad Russia has men and women of the highest calibre)

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Bob - Enough

This makes no sense to me precisely because of some of what you state. Therefore I am two minds as to whether a) this is real or b) this is some sort of false flag to be ongoing as part of a bigger agenda. I know how I sound, but so many things over the last month do not sit right with me. In fact I will go a step further and say I am not even sure if this whole thing is not just another phase of “The Great Reset”…have you read about the homes of the pro-Russians in Ukraine are being “Nationalised” ??.

You actually infer the same thing to a certain extent, if I am reading your post correctly.

Johny cash

Useless aint even the word. Wtf happened to their army. Its been so degraded. Shoigu been siphoning off money i reckon. Ukraine sent in to test air defence

G2 man

Yes, Russia has a smaller defence budget than either India or even Saudis and there was rampant corruption in the whole supply chain, especially high tech weaponry. Russian combat capable modern aircraft like SU-35, 34 or even Mig 29 are a fraction of what US and NATO have, considering Russia has the largest landmass in the world. The west has been preparing to destroy Russia like the USSR for a long time and these weaknesses have to be addressed.

Skull322

SHUT UP AMerican little whore

Michel LeBlanc

1 for ukraine 200 for russia.

Go away 6th column filth.

Putin is a Joke

Putin dies and goes to hell. Some years later he is allowed to go back to earth for one day. He goes to Moscow, enters a bar and orders a drink, he then asks… “Is Crimea ours?” “Yes it is ours” “And Donbas?” “Ours” “And Kiev?” Ours “Well done.. how much do I owe you? “5 euro”

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Biden is a joke

Biden dies and goes to hell. Some years later he is allowed to go back to earth for one day. He goes to Moscow, enters a bar and orders a drink, he then asks… “Is Crimea ours?” “Yes it is ours” “And Donbas?” “Ours” “And Kiev?” Ours “Well done.. how much do I owe you? “5 Rubels”

Toxic Male

Westeners are so emotional lol

Erdoggy Dog is a joke

Clyde

Poor Ukrotard recycling the same crappy joke. It won’t ever be euros, but there is a significant chance that it will be renminbi. Never stop derping.

Ryan

Sorry to ask but how come you are here 24/7? Don t you have a full time job?

Clyde

You already asked. Are you keeping track of me?

Ryan

Yes because is rather strange to see you on every post and comment with time stamps during the whole day. Critical analysis says you are an online bum or you are paid to do this. Which One is it?

Rossiye

Trying to provoke Russia to go all offensive?

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G2 man

Russia will have to go on total war footing and flatten Kiev as NATO and its US masters agenda is to prolong this conflict to bleed Russia to death. Even third rate far off British penal colony like Australia is airlifting arms to Poland for use against Russia. This is unheard of total western war against Russia and a trail run for the upcoming conflict against China if Russia fails in Ukraine. So far Russia has been very passive and there seems to be a problem with combined arms operations and lack of air superiority. This conflict has exposed a number of very fatal flaws in Russian C31, logistics and leadership. Let’s hope they are learning the lessons and improving tactics. This is a good primer for China to take stock of its capability.

Phariah

And while at it secure the independence of eastern, southern and half of central (Cherkasy, Vinnitsa) Ukraine into Novorossiya. gotta make all this worthwhile.

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G2 man

Yes, but pressure has to be maintained on Kiev. My initial analysis was that Russia should have used 500,000 troops and leap frogged to the Polish border in the initial attack and sealed it. Tying up 40% of the initial force on highways around Kiev did not make military sense as there was no massive softening up artillery and EMP attack follow-up. Now the Russians need to dig in around Kiev and just flatten the place while they mop up in the east and Black sea region, which they will. A more robust air campaign against infrastructure is a must.

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Clyde

Absolute rubbish. The Russians are not going to flatten Kiev. It is clearly evident, and has been stated by Russian military officials, that they did not anticipate a Ukrainian response that entailed prolonged resistance at the cost of cities. The Russians are adapting to the reality of the total disregard of the US and their Ukrainian puppets for the lives of Ukrainians.

TopGum

You don’t understand Russia’s objectives. Your analysis is wrong. Time will show. So far Russia is holding most of the cards. They know what they do. No one said there will be no surprises.

G2 man

In terms of strategic mass, there is no question that Russia should prevail. But my analysis and comments are based on pre-24 Feb planning and then the poor execution of the initial operation Z. In practical terms, Russia is fighting the whole west and NATO and simply can not be passive and not go on total war footing. Even a truncated Ukraine will remain an existential threat to Russia as a NATO base for future destabilization. As I have tried to explain as rationally and objectively, this conflict was never about Ukraine, it is intended to destroy Russia and then set an example for China which is the next real target. Russia can not act passively now.

Clyde

More rubbish. Russian cannot go to a “total war footing” against NATO. “Total war” is a ridiculous notion in a proxy war between the US and Russia. A peace agreement is coming once Donbass is secured. Whatever the outcome in the Ukraine, the US war against Russia won’t end, so the notion that Russia benefits from pretending they’re going to Berlin in 1945 is infantile. There is no eliminating the destabilizing threat posed by the Ukraine, there is only management until the US capacity to project power further degrades as their Ponzi scheme dollar economy falls apart. Quantitative easing as national economy policy is on life support.

Clyde

Boom goes Belgorod ( twice)

Jimmy

Putin needs to give a young general total freedom to act in Ukraine like Stalin gave Zhukov.

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Clyde

Goodness li’l Ukrotard, how many Russian strikes have lit up the logistical nodes in the Ukrainian CIA project? More than two?

NATO is lauughing at you

But but but Rússia hás air Supremacy, UAF hás no fuel and completely destroyed hahaha lovely map today and love your tears

Clyde

Poor li’l Ukrotards. Relentless pounding of Ukrainian military infrastructure, massive destruction of Ukrainian aerospace assets and the total inabililty of the Ukrainians to do anything about the Russian incursions right up to the capital of the failed Ukrainian CIA project, and you’re posing logical fallacies as a response. Keep on derping in Banderpistan.

Armchairgeneral

How did they successfully penetrate the airspace in the first place?

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mistiick

Flying at low altitude means, you are in blind spot of most of the radar systems. But there are ways to cover this too, so it was clearly a mistake aerial defense there.

G2 man

Sadly Russian radar coverage is very poor and obviously they lack thermal imaging satellite and drone cover. The Iranians are far ahead in this area and Russia should be consulting with them as they track every US and hostile aircraft all the way to Syria and have managed to down the most sophisticated US drones. There is a serious problem in Russian military operational doctrine that needs to be addressed.

Biden is a joke

Russian radars are the best in the planet. And they have the sane level of IR and thermal imaging as NATO. Keep in mind that Saudi air defense are close to useless against cheap Iranian drones. Yet they use Patriot and THAAD probably as well.

G2 man

All true, but Russian air activity has been quite passive. The US and its NATO vassals destroyed Iraq in the first 48 hours, Russia has shown too much restraint. In a war against vicious criminals like NATO and its armed Nazi there is no need to operate will velvet gloves. Kiev needs to be razed to the ground as an example, since the PR war damage has been done and most of the western sheeple are too busy with fuel prices and Will Smith Oscar slap dab. Just unleash hell all over Ukraine.

Clyde

Ridiculous. The Ukrainian state apparatus will be left intact, as a permanent welfare case for the US to fail to support, as it’s broke. Belt/road is the end game. This is all a question of contuining to advance Russian interests in the region while the US continues to degrade economically. 9 trillion on the Fed balance sheets as the banks went broke in August, 2019. China’s building their crappy roads in Africa, while the US can only afford to play games with JSOC. The idea that there is a solution to Russia’s current problem with the Ukraine that is solely of a military nature is the stuff of comic books.

Yamil Perez

Ever thought about the possibility of a false flag? No one died, damage is small. And a major battle is coming up in the east. Russia will say that they can increase airstrikes now possible carpet bombings due to national security. You guys are very naive.

Truth Hurts

Even actual Russian failures are 4D chess moves according to the Putin apologists lol

Clyde

No need for a false flag. A mission like this is solely a propagand stunt. Every single EW of the US and lackeys could be brought to bear to put two helicopters over the border for a few minutes. There is no way for people outside the US/Ukrainian and Russian military structures to accurately assess this event.

Matej

My wuestion exactley! Also, way hasent Russia destroied thoes helicopters? That means that the Rusian surveliance tehnik is not working or is in a small number available.

G2 man

As I have explained very objectively, Russian ELINT , AWACS and satellite technology is quite poor.

Baconboy

According to hohols.

Baconboy

Even Pentagon admits usa lags behind.

Nato is laughing at you

Hahahaha what a joke

Bird.

You are.

kenboy

La c’est vraiment de l’amateurisme , entre les helicos qui evacuent des commandant Azov, les chars et les vab qui se font allumer partout les soldats capturés en veux tu en voila et maintenant des territoires Russes limitrophes qui sont attaqués non pas par des missiles mais des helicos. Franchement les russes doivent revoir leur copie tactique en tout cas elle est tres largement a perfectionner

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Popcorn

Where os clyde and his Steiner generals. Everyday a new low. Lolol russian aeropussyspace forces fucking useless morons

NATO is lauughing at you

You mean Bagdad “Bob” Clyde?

Clyde

Poor ol’ Ukrotards. Russia has pounded the hell out of the military structures of the failed Ukrainian CIA project, and now a helicopter strike constitutes a triumph of Ukrainian martial prowess? Banderpite logic.

Shoigu

But but but we have air Supremacy and uaf is already destroyed?!

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Dick Von D'Astard

Clutching at straws… It’s took five weeks (and considerable help from western intelligence) to mount one act of desperation successfully.

Russia is a paper tiger

Lolol just two days ago they hit an ammo depot in Belgorod also. Never mind the ship sunk at berdyansk or the initial hit in the milerovo air base on the beginning. Nothing to see here all is.good lolol How does ukraine even still have Hélis? Russian aerofagforces aRe a joke that s the answer. Forget NATO, a few europe.air forces would wipe the floor with it

G2 man

It does raise very serious questions. Russia is not a paper tiger, but its military is fighting NATO practically and not very well led. A lot of lessons are being learnt. This conflict has a long way to go yet.

Clyde

Remind us of the last time an operation was conducted under circumstances like this. Those circumstances include an initial desire to get a relatively peaceful capitulation by the Ukrotards in the manner of Crimea. Literally the opposite of the US murder machine’s “shock and awe” approach. Given the historical relationship of Russia to the Ukrainians, with the exception of the Galician banderpites, this is a brand new type of conflict. Your assertions about Russian leadership are not rooted in any observable phenomenon. Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face. Is the Ukraine joining NATO any time soon? Are they getting nuclear weaons as a result of this conflict? Are the Ukrainians getting Donbass and Crimea back as a result of this conflict? Will the Banderpite atavistic kook element exert the same influence in the post-conflict Ukrainian state? The answer of course, to every question I posed, is “no”. Which means, win, win, win for the Russians.

TopGum

Don’t see how one lucky strike is relevant to the outcome. Everyone in the world knows Ukraine was finished from day one. Zelensky is just a total moron and a tool. But he lost his country the moment he aligned himself with US and NATO. Where are they by the way? I always thought they are his best buddies and will always stand by Ukraine? Yeah, they meant they stand by them form 10’000 miles away :-)

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Truth Hurts

Two hits on Belgrod (weapons depot and now fuel storage), a ship sunk and an air base attacked are NOT “one lucky strike”, unless one’s head is embedded in the ground like an Ostritch would lol

Clyde

If we compared the number of successful Russian strikes on the structures of the failed Ukrainian CIA project with the four you just listed, certainly “lucky” strikes does seem like a pretty accurate description of the pathetic Ukrainian response.

Bird.

Ukrainian losses are about 10times higher. I wouldn’t brag.

Clyde

Ten times higher? How many Russian strikes have been made on Ukrainian facilities?

Duke

Try harder

rebello

Send ten kamikaze, one will strike. The point is that they are ALL dead now.

Harry Taylor

Suicidal

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BetterThanYou

How is that suicidal? Mission completed successfully, hit the Orcs where it hurts them and they returned to base safely.

hans raus

russian army is joke, whole world is laughing at russian army. You rly want to fight with nato? damn, you better focus on superpowers like congo or senegal ;)

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TopGum

No need to fight NATO. They already too afraid to do anything against Russia. It does not matter anyway. Russia’s forces will adapt to that, end of story. Ukraine was already lost from day one. NATO, EU they never wanted to help them anyway. Now no one is taking NATO seriously. They run away and said over and over that they are no part of that conflict. That is what people call a joke!

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hans raus

COPE mode on bro. Nato provided weapons worth 1 bilion euro from 24.02 and still sending every single day. Nato provide inteligence help on daily basis for ukrainian army. Witout nato help ukraine wouldnt be able to push back russian troops from kiev region. Nato at this moment dont need to enter ukraine. As you see ukraine doing well, 15000+ russian invaders killed and tons of equipment destroyed. Nato intention is not to destroy russian troops on ukrainian territory but just to make russia bleed out army and economy. This is main goal for nato. It will be nightmare for russia that based on western military technology. welcome in north korea 2.0

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hans raus

Ukrobot army is joke, whole world is laughing at banderite army. You really want to fight with CSTO? damn, you better focus on superpowers like congo or senegal ;)

mhtsaropinigitakhs

fucking usless joke of an army Russian retards wtf are you doing? getting attacked inside Russia…usless russia airforce go suicide fucking clowns

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FreeToThink

Ukraine does not target civilians like Russians do.

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hans raus

We do. But only inside Ukraine.

Carlo

Russian improvised this war after 8 years since Maidan coup. Total disappointment! Epic fail :(

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TopGum

Yes we all know, they will arrive with their tanks in Moscow soon :-) … keep on dreaming. Zelensky has proven again that there will be no peace between the corrupt Ukrainian regime and Russia. Things will gradually change now. Ukraine will mostly be torn apart and will cease to exist. That is his heritage. Ukraine has no friends. US, NATO, they all run away first sign of a real conflict. All they do is watch and talk. No one is ready to do something. They cannot and won’t give them anything beside empty promises. And their best buddies still making business with Russia. US has ramped up their oil purchases from Russia again. No sign of any sanctions :-) Russian currency up and running again. Too bad Zelensky still hoping for help to arrive.

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Matej

Yes I agree

Reyzr

A little overconfidence? Russia must take note of this warning. Yanki satellites scanning every available corridor to attack Russian logistics in Russia. Then relayed to their proxies. It is also possible that these choppers maybe hangered outside Ukraine. An all out offensive to seek out and destroy Ukrainian helicopter sanctuaries

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Truth Hurts

Today Russia handed control of Chernobyl back to Ukraine lol – next they’ll hand over the keys to Moscow – the shit show keeps on shitting!

Putin is a dead man walking.

I told you that we will bomb Russia but you dismissed. All millitary facilities and oil reserves on Russian territory are legal targets including Kremlin and the bunkers of Putin army and his bunkers. We will bring the war in Russia, if you think that you are safe in Russia well think again.

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TopGum

Two lucky strikes in 5 weeks. That is not something to brag about. Russia inflicts more losses on Ukrainian forces in an hour. But it took some guts to do it and to achieve such a deep strike. Russia was to careless. But they will adapt to that for sure.

Only facts

Ever heard of milerovo air base attack

Truth Hurts

So far it’s been 5 “lucky” strikes and counting… try and keep up!

Clyde

5 against hundreds upon hundreds of Russian strikes on Banderpistan.

hans raus

I would rather worry about glorious ukronazisisbanderistan.

Carlo

Ukronazi did get 10000 items between stingers and javelin before 24 February and what did the Russian command? First it sent the infantry and tanks to commit suicide against portable ant-tank missiles and then imposed a no-fly zone that still fails to all levels.

Clyde

10 000 items and the Russians still waltzed up to the gates of the capital of the failed Ukrainian CIA project, wiping out dozens of Ukrotard aircraft and hundreds of tanks. Just a colossal failure on the part of the US to operate their psychotic Banderpite device with any skill.

Ze Z

A strike at the president’s palace in Kyiv will send them a warning 1.

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Truth Hurts

This is Putin’s Russia we are taking about. That will never happen. More negotiation and deals to follow. Remember when Israel and Turkey killed all those Russian servicemen.

Carlo

Russian does not have spy satellites. It did use the Open Sky Treaty (concluded two years ago) in order to get data intelligence and now only on Orlan drones.

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hans raus

Wrong. Russia does have spies sats. And a few other toys on orbit as well

Yamil Perez

Could be a false flag. I have my doubts about Ukrainian choppers falling over Donbass and Mariupol but can penetrate easily till Belgorod with zero air defense responding. No SAMs no AA, no helos no jets no nothing. Makes little sense.

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Rose

A false flag to encourage Germany and the EU to send more weapons to Ukraine ?

Johny cash

No air defence? Open borders wtf

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sephiroth

Where are your mighty air defenses. s550, s500, s400, s350, s300, tor, pantsir, bla bla bla? Losers!

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The Objective

One could ask the same how a $2000 worth Iranian drone can overcome the Patriot and THAAD systems defending Saudi refineries but it happens pretty often. A system is only as good as the operators.

Truth Hurts

Iranian drones are superior tech to any other countries. Ask the butthurt Israelis. Mi8 helicopters have a radar signal 20 times larger than a drone, not to mention these are bulky flying objects.

Clyde

Losers? The Russians have conducted operations from one end of the Ukrainian CIA project to the other. Ukrotard logic. Good times.

Pamfil Military Academy

If confirmed, someone need to be fired unless the shooting down of the attacking heli’s.

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Truth Hurts

Someone? Lol, how about Putin, since he runs the shit show!

Redguard

Hmm, needs more negotiations?

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I&me&Myself

This is not making sense anymore, it doesn’t seem that Russia is winning this war. The map update of Russian troop advancement remains the same since 3 weeks. How is it that Ukraine not only still have helicopters, planes but was able to fly them to hit Russia? Where are the Russian fighter planes? Is Russia not controlling the full border between Russia and Ukraine as well as the sky?

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The Objective

Russia is grinding up ukro troops. Thats the main objective. If you look at the map Russia as bogging down the main forces. Donbas, Kiev, Kharkov, Mariupol, Odessa. Can you follow the pattern? You are thinking like an American but Russians aren’t Americans. They are not after the territory but after the menpower and gear.

Tony

The success cannot be measured in terms of advances in the northern part of Ukraine at least. It does surprise me that Ukrainians are still able to field aircraft however, this boggles my mind. Perhaps some of the reports of ineptitude are legitimate. One would think cross border attacks would be in the realm of possibility and that the Russians would have deployed countermeasures before going into Ukraine.

Jon

First an observation regarding comments on this site. The ad hominem outbursts in both directions are obscene and infantile. The soldiers on both sides who are dying are dishonored by such drivel.

Secondly, the tactical errors addressed by G-2 man are correct but the focus is misplaced. Yes, this war has been a tactical disaster for Russia. Russia is huge and can change tactics and correct these errors, but to what strategic end?

Third, this war is a strategic failure. What long term goal of the Russian people is served by devastating their Slavic brothers and sisters in Ukraine? None. Putin’s ego sought strokes from his echo chamber arm chair Kremlin cronies. Self referential driving leads to a crash, particularly when you only look in the rear view mirror.

The rear view mirror confirms that the Russian people are indomitable WHEN Russia is invaded. Here “Barbarossa” was launched by Russia. Hitler used 4 million infantry and combined arms. Putin used maybe 200,000. The Russian soul can suffer and prevail in defense of the motherland but, in credit to the Russian soul, has no appetite for blitzkrieg on a neighbor, particularly a blood relative neighbor.

What does the Anglo West fear the most: a Russian/German alliance. Putin was slowly inching toward such a goal. To attain it, he needed to wage peace, not war. The result would have been unimaginable prosperity for Russian people. The Russian identity would have withstood being “westernized” completely, although a hybrid culture would emerge in both Eastern and Western Europe as a result of the economic integration that waging peace would have created.

But waging this horrible war of attrition to a long drawn out conclusion serves no one in Russia. It serves NATO and China.

Vlad, negotiate a peace. Get rid of your worthless advisers. Everybody makes mistakes. That is what Teshuvah is for. Repent. Re-orient strategically to the west because Russia’s ultimate demise comes from the east.

Timmy Temperance

The hunters become hunted. I am surprised aircraft can enter Russian airspace undetected. Even more surprised they can blow stuff up and leave unchallenged.

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Arzt Injektion

Almost like they wanted it too happen.

Putin biches tears taste like heaven

Hahahaha

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