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Ukraine: The Information War, Conflict Scenarios, And ‘Post-Conflict Ukraine’

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Ukraine: The Information War, Conflict Scenarios, And ‘Post-Conflict Ukraine’

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Written by Daniel Edgar exclusively for SouthFront

Numerous analysts have noted that Russia is being annihilated by the Western countries in the ‘information war’ theatre of operations, urging much greater effort is necessary to address this aspect of the conflict. It would however be counterproductive to try to compete with ‘the West’ on its own terms in the conflict of narratives, beyond refuting the most publicized allegations and accusations with verifiable evidence and testimony so that the Ukrainian people and other interested parties can examine the respective claims and all available evidence in order to reach their own conclusions. International media outlets that demonstrate some inclination and capacity for independent and sincere reporting and analysis based on the available evidence could be invited to dispatch reporters and mutually acceptable experts to investigate and verify the facts in terms of specific incidents and controversies as well as in terms of the overall nature and course of the conflict. Any attempt to impose the Russian perspective and narrative over the Western narrative will not succeed, in the Ukraine or elsewhere.

As an example of the power of persuasion of the Western media complex, most people in the world believe that the Twin Towers and Tower 7 of the World Trade Centre collapsed as the result of office fires rather than due to controlled demolition, even in New York City itself, notwithstanding the implausibility of such assertions and the accumulation of evidence to the contrary over time. When all Western corporate media outlets present the same assertions and information as indisputable fact and exclude other evidence, opinions and analysis from their coverage (other than the carefully managed presentation of a small number of dissenting opinions that avoid the main topics and are easily refuted or discredited), it is difficult not to believe the narrative that has been established.

While Russia cannot match the West in the international media, their ability to reach people in the Ukraine in order to present the Russian perspective of the conflict is much greater and this domain will be the most crucial in terms of persuading members of the Ukrainian Armed Forces – and the people more generally –  that, while their sense of patriotism and natural instinct to defend their country against a foreign invasion is admirable, the best way to defend their sovereignty, security and welfare (both national and individual) is to surrender to the Russian Armed Forces in an orderly and dignified manner so that the destruction of the country’s infrastructure and economy are minimized and they can participate in the reconstruction of the country as soon as possible.

This obviously requires a huge ‘leap of faith’ on behalf of the Ukrainian people, who are currently forced to choose between several bad options: try to flee the violence, ‘go West’, and hope that if and when they return their property and belongings haven’t been destroyed or ransacked; ‘stay home’, try to not get killed, endure the suffering until the conflict ends, and hope that when the Russians arrive they treat the citizens of Ukraine with respect and goodwill; join the armed forces or militias, and try to ‘kill a Russky or two’ before they are caught, captured, or forced to flee to the West and perhaps be recruited to participate in the new & improved ‘Gladio’ networks to undertake sabotage and terror missions against Ukraine in the future.

Many would no doubt also respond: How can one possibly surrender to an invading military force and maintain one’s dignity, particularly the members of the Armed Forces who are sworn to defend their country and people against any and all threats no matter what the personal cost? Many factors and arguments can be presented to address this question.

One is that Ukrainians should stop and think before they rush off to the local military recruitment office at the urging of the international and Ukrainian media, to try to analyse and understand the broader context and geopolitical situation beyond the immediate instinct to flee, fight or stay put and hope the storm passes. Review and discuss the situation among themselves, and consider the respective risks, advantages and consequences of each alternative course of action in terms of specific local conditions and the broader context.

What will continuing to fight the Russian forces from increasingly besieged and destroyed cities achieve and a few regional hubs in the western part of the country achieve, other than more deaths and destruction? Whether they like it or not, the Russian armed forces have achieved complete theatre control in many key areas, destroying the capacity of the Ukrainian armed forces to operate the types of major coordinated defensive and counter-offensive operations that would be necessary to reverse this fact. Even if major ground operations were successful, a large part of Ukraine’s heavy military equipment has been destroyed and the Russians will still have complete air superiority.

While the ‘patriotic’ Ukrainian and international media are urging people to resist and fight the Russians to the last Ukrainian, claiming that the Russians can be defeated militarily and that NATO will protect and support them, it must be increasingly clear to all but the most thoroughly indoctrinated or fanatical that the only thing that can prevent the Russian military from taking over most if not all Ukraine territory now is an order from Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Moreover, the longer and more intense the futile resistance of what remains of the Ukrainian armed forces goes on, the greater and more enduring the destruction and suffering will be. The only winner will be the United States, whose leadership is obsessed with the idea of weakening Russia at any cost and maintaining its military occupation of and control over the rest of Europe.

The question also needs to be asked by Ukrainians trying to decide between the main options outlined above: are the Ukrainian government and media as well as Western countries so intent on urging people to sacrifice their lives in order to defend Ukraine’s sovereignty and the well-being of the Ukrainian people, or so that they can consolidate Western control over the Ukrainian State, economy and people through the collaboration exercised by a small number of corrupt and privileged vested political and economic groups?

Most importantly from the immediate individual perspective, if all the men of fighting age rush off to fight the Russkies at the front lines, who is going to be there to defend and protect their families and homes, whether from invading Russkies, marauding paramilitary groups, or others seeking to take advantage of the situation to ransack properties or commit other crimes and atrocities?

If local conditions permit, maybe they can form neighbourhood self-defence groups to maintain order and security in the immediate surroundings and discuss establishing a collective position on relations with the authorities and armed forces, whether Ukrainian or Russian depending on the situation.

From the Russian point of view, the military operation in Ukraine was necessary to defend the country against what appeared to have been an inevitable war against the Western/ NATO countries which has been meticulously prepared for over the last few decades, pushing their military installations and forces ever closer to the Russian heartland, conducting regular large-scale strategic nuclear attack, conventional and hybrid warfare manoeuvres and operations.

Over the last few years Ukraine had opened its territory to all of these activities, including overflights by nuclear-capable bombers, and it seemed to be just a matter of time before US military bases were established and nuclear missiles deployed to Ukraine, whether the Ukraine had been accepted into the European Union and NATO or not. Such military installations would in effect be US sovereign territory entirely under the control of the US military and used to advance the geopolitical interests and objectives of the US financial and political elites, not to protect and defend the Ukrainian people.

As with Turkey and Georgia, it is questionable whether the core European countries will ever accept them as full members of the European Union (other than as a propaganda stunt during the conflict), and they will probably never accept the people of the countries of Eastern Europe or the Middle East as equals; rather, they would be accepted into these organizations because they represent additional markets, infrastructure, natural and human resources for their companies to capture, control and exploit, as well as being strategic and expendable frontier territories for NATO (read, the people that control the financial-military-industrial complex in the US, the UK, France, Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands, Spain and Italy, whoever and whatever the hell they are) in order to establish a ‘full spectrum dominance’ military presence with which they could further provoke, threaten and harass Russia. Many Ukrainians may well consider being ‘under the protection of the US nuclear umbrella’ a reassuring prospect, failing to realize that participating in the NATO expansion and subjugating themselves to complete US military control over their territory greatly increases the likelihood of a devastating nuclear conflict in which their country will be one of the first to be obliterated.

Moreover, as in all other countries where they operate, all US military personnel and contractors would have operated freely in all parts of Ukraine, the Ukrainian military and authorities would have no jurisdiction over them, and they would be granted ‘full diplomatic immunities and privileges’ so that, apart from complete exemption from all Ukrainian military, police or customs inspections, whenever US military personnel or contractors commit crimes against Ukrainians if anyone complains or tries to prosecute them the perpetrators will be hastily redeployed to a US military garrison in some other corner of the world subject to US military occupation.

There was therefore not much Ukrainian sovereignty left to protect, it had already been surrendered voluntarily.

Possible measures to prepare for the post-conflict period

** Establish a joint Russian-Ukrainian ‘Truth and Justice Commission’ to investigate and discuss all relevant political, economic and military developments prior to and during the conflict, with regional sub-commissions, and invite neighbouring countries to participate. To do this effectively, many military and intelligence documents and materials and all related ‘diplomatic’ correspondence will have to be declassified and made available; if the people are to trust the politicians and bureaucrats (and the Ukrainians are to trust the Russians), the politicians and bureaucrats must trust the people (and the Russians must trust the Ukrainian people) and recognize their right to be informed rather than treating them like children or simpletons who must be told what to think, what to do and what to believe.

** Establish national and regional Commissions and technical committees to discuss and plan for the economic and social reconstruction of the country and provide for interim governing arrangements. These must be ‘of, by and for the Ukrainian people’, with transparent procedures for the people of each region and district to select their own representatives and members. Preliminary steps could be taken in areas that have already been secured, both as ‘pilot studies’ to test their viability and in order to try to reassure Ukrainians in contested areas that they will not be killed by the Russian forces if they do not try to attack them, that they will have every opportunity to participate in and control future developments in their region, and that if they surrender rather than make a ‘heroic’ but futile last stand their regions won’t be further affected by the military conflict and they can begin to rebuild their lives and their communities. This could include a sub-commission to explore the Chinese proposal of making Ukraine a ‘bridge between the East and the West’ rather than being the primary battleground in the Russia-NATO confrontation for the foreseeable future, with an internationally guaranteed status of military neutrality and amicable relations with all nations to the extent this is possible.

** As far as is possible and practicable, establish surveillance and monitoring posts and platforms to maintain constant surveillance and recording/ documentation of installations where it is suspected that ‘false flag’ attacks and extremely destructive and deadly sabotage operations might be undertaken, in order to increase the amount of evidence available to identify the nature and perpetrators of such attacks and to be able to refute claims that such incidents were the result of Russian aviation, missile or artillery bombardments. Ukrainians could be encouraged to record and document ongoing developments in their regions and localities, to establish additional records and testimony as to what is happening in conflict areas. This would be particularly useful in areas where there are allegations that Ukrainian military and paramilitary units are in effect holding the residents of some cities hostage, preventing them from leaving through humanitarian corridors so that they can be used as ‘human shields’. In this way, if it turns out that Russian claims that they have been taking many precautions to protect civilian lives are true, this can be verified by the Ukrainian people themselves with irrefutable evidence and the extra casualties that have been incurred by the Russian forces as a result will not have been in vain.

** As a local variant of what has been suggested with respect to the properties of Russian oligarchs in the UK (by Vitali Klitschko, the mayor of Kiev, if I am not mistaken), all properties of Ukrainian oligarchs (and Western financial-corporate predators and vulture funds – I mean, foreign investors) could be confiscated, nationalised and returned to the people of Ukraine. The systematic plundering and pillaging of Ukraine’s infrastructure and resources since the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the ‘Deep State’ and ‘Deep Finance’ political, bureaucratic and financial/ economic networks responsible would be worthy of another independent Commission in the context of economic recovery and social justice plans and projects.

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Pedo Andy

The Anglo-Zionist eunuch criminals have lost the propaganda war too, SLAVA 🇷🇺 ROSSIYA!

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Ashok Varma

If a serious analysis is conducted, there are only 2 biggest countries that matter in the global propaganda and public opinion polls; China and India which have over 3 BILLION people or 35% of the world’s population. These two powerhouses are firmly standing should to shoulder with Russia as even the demented senile fool Biden lamented after failing to convince Modi to change his support for our Russian allies. In the wider world as PEW and other independent polls have shown, over 95% of the world supports Russia and its rightful actions to defeat the most horrendous racist Nazis of Ukraine There are daily images beamed on global uncensored media about how the Azov Nazis are abusing Russian speakers, the Roma and other minorities. Russia really needs to crush these despicable Ukrainian racist roaches who prey on the most vulnerable and hide in schools, hospitals and homes behind Slavic women and children. The world supports President Putin’s resolute and brave actions and the noble soldiers of the Russian Federation and allies who are waging the most noble fight against NAZI scum. JAI RUS!

jens holm

None of the are standing as You are told.

The standers are Eritrea, Cuban, assads, belarus and North Korea.

So they so far are very neutral. Anyone much less clever then You can look that up.

Your BUT BUTs for Biden semes to being from Your horn only. It semes like being some kind of permanent flew.

About 125 countries support Russia should not invade a UN recognized sate and they all makes hard and mild sanctions and addictions to them.

If anything the say Putting is NUTS.

Jens Assholm

Stop screaming you dumb monkey and go suck Joe’s BUTT BUTT and Jens Stoltenberg NUTS.

Brian

All you Putinophile collaborators are the same ! Dreaming about Putin’s butt butt and his Nuts on your chin.

So weird ! Are you from a single parent home?

Jens Assholm

Cocksucker, I’m from your mama’s home, I just finished fucking her 👍

Go slurp your dinner from her cunt after you finish sucking jens monkey balls and asshole. And don’t forget Zelensky banana for a desert you tranny whore.

platon

Banderasite? (is there an iggy button here for scum like this?)

jens holm

I very like your tongue on my nuts Brian. Very ticklish.

jens holm

Thats not me Jens Holm Denmark.

Yuri could be upgraded to white trash if we painted him.

jens holm

Thats me Jens Holm Denmark. And I very like Brians tongue on my nuts. And in my butt. Thats very enjoyable.

Jimmy

EU country says it won’t integrate Ukrainian refugees Denmark will instead offer temporary shelter before sending them back to Ukraine

Billy Bob

Nazi’s in Operation Barbarossa took seven weeks to reach Kiev and the required 7 more weeks to subdue the city. The Nazis had the advantage of not pulling punches to avoid civilian casualties and were eager to destroy critical infrastructure. Yet many so-called American military experts claimed that Russia was bogged down. When a 24 mile (or 40 mile, depends on the news source) was positioned north of Kiev for more than a week, it was clear that Ukraine’s ability to launch significant military operations had been eliminated. If their artillery was intact, then that column was easy pickings for massive destruction. That did not happen. Alternatively, if the Ukrainian’s had a viable fixed wing or rotary wing capability they should have destroyed that column from the air. That did not happen. Or, if they had a viable cruise missile capability they should have rained down hell on the supposedly stalled Russian column. That did not happen. The Ukrainians did not even mount a significant infantry ambush of the column with their newly supplied U.S. Javelins.

te qifsha nanen

Brian the Banderite arselicker and mentally damaged fudge packer.

Q

Joe Biden has his saggy nuts on your chin while you lick his butt butt dreaming about Bandera.

So weird!

platon

How many downvotes can assholes stand? Show us.

hmm

I doubt jens stoltenberg has nuts. a sissy eunuch like jens holm

jens holm

Right now Jens Stoltenberg is doin very well. He is not perfect in the same way as You

Billy Bob

Pentagon Classified Report: “The Ukrainian Army Has Been Defeated. What’s Left Is Mop-Up”

Within the first 24 hours of the Russian military operation in Ukraine, all Ukrainian Ground Radar Intercept capabilities were wiped out. Without those radars, the Ukrainian Air Force lost its ability to do air to air intercept. In the intervening three weeks, Russia has established a de facto No Fly Zone over Ukraine. While still vulnerable to shoulder fired Surface to Air Missiles supplied by the U.S. and NATO to the Ukrainians, there is no evidence that Russia has had to curtail Combat Air Operations.

Billy Bob

The western propagandists are losing the propaganda war as well. This is a combination of ignorance and laziness. Rather than do real reporting, the vast majority of the media (print and electronic) as well as Big Tech are supporting a massive Russophobic propaganda campaign in history. I remember when Saddam Hussein was Hitler. I remember when Donald Trump was Hitler. And now we have a new Hitler, Vladimir Putin. This is a tired, failed playbook of desperate losers on the wrong side of history. Anyone who dares to raise legitimate questions about is immediately tarred as a Putin puppet or a Russia stooge. When you cannot argue facts the only recourse is name calling.

Gregor Kovich

Ukraine goes full retard. Ukraine accuses Hungary of having designs on its land Deputy PM alleges that “cheap Russian gas” and a thirst for territory could be behind Budapest’s “pro-Russian” rhetoric. He said that Hungary is allied to Russia and should be expelled from EU and NATO.

Sörenson

Now that Russia went into the ukrainian quagmire, the next logical step is to make Georgia a memberstate of the EU and NATO as quickly as possible. Then pump it full with weapons, and open a second front in the south of Russia. Let Georgian and Chechen Mujahideen eliminate the treacherous fake-muslim Kadyrov-system in Chechnya, and move on to liberate Dagestan and Ingushetia from the russian occupiers. This way the Red Army will have to wage a desasterous two front-war, and will drown in its own blood even faster.

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Stepan Bandera in Hell

You’ll drown in your own monkey blood by choking on your daddy’s dildo moronic degenerate…

Marshal K.K. Rokossovsky

Militarily Russia has enough firepower to obliterate its Ukrainian Oblast. However Russian military is treating the Ukrainian Nazi cowards hiding behind women and children with kid gloves.

There was are a number of tweets from even western media on the ground that the number of shells Russia has fired in Ukraine so far is a fraction of the the number of shells Israel fired into Gaza in ONE HOUR by the Zionists.

This comparison highlighted the Western media hypocrisy over war carnage in Ukraine v/s other places. Russia can flatten Kiev in an hour if it wants to. The Zionists destroyed all of Gaza with indiscriminate shelling, while Red Army is being very careful, because of civilians and Kiev Nazi human shields.

jens holm

Hard to see the releance to gaza.

As a routine You name people as cowards, because Your midgets think any are afraid of you. Its a very good illusion. You believe in it Yourself.

Number one for wining is not there. Its knowing the enemy You are fighting against.

jens holm

Thats not me realisme Jens Holm Denmark.

Billy Bob

The scale and scope of the Russian velvet glove intervention is remarkable. They captured territory in three weeks that is larger than the land mass of the United Kingdom. They then proceeded to carry out targeted attacks on key cities and military installations. We have not seen a single instance of a Ukrainian regiment or brigade size unit attacking and defeating a comparable Russian unit. Instead, the Russians have split the Ukrainian Army into fragments and cut their lines of communication. The Russians are consolidating their control of Mariupol and have secured all approaches on the Black Sea. Ukraine is now cut off in the South and the North.

I would note that the U.S. had a tougher time capturing this much territory in Iraq in 2003 while fighting against a far inferior, less capable military force. If anything, this Russian operation should scare the hell out of U.S. military and political leaders. US also killed a million Iraqi citizens indiscriminately and razed Fallujah, Mosul and many cities to the ground. The Russians have barely hit a civilian target in Kiev.

The really big news came this week with the Russian missile strikes on what are de facto NATO bases in Yavoriv and Zhytomyr. NATO conducted cyber security training at Zhytomyr in September 2018 and described Ukraine as a “NATO partner.” Zhytomyr was destroyed with hypersonic missiles on Saturday. Yavoriv suffered a similar fate last Sunday. It was the primary training and logistics center that NATO and EUCOM used to supply fighters and weapons to Ukraine. A large number of the foreign mercenaries military and Ukrainian personnel at that base became casualties.

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FACT CEHCKER

Ukraine is a criminal NAZI regime and feeding total lies for western propaganda. The epic fail of Ukrainian propaganda – in a report about the “destroyed Russian column” they showed the tag of a serviceman Мiщенко О.А.(Ukrainian soldier/letters) And that’s how it goes:agreed. They have been claiming nonsense for a month about Russian losing thousands of soldiers and running out of food and ammunition. Absurd nonsense.

Ukrainians basically using human shields by hiding dangerous weapons in shopping malls, hospitals, and other civilian areas.

FACT CHECKER

Russia is doing very well. On average Russian forces advance between 5 and 20 kilometers per day, which is rather fast against a defense in depth prepared for years. The key cities of Kiev and Odessa are almost completely blocked, but not fully surrounded yet. The Black Sea fleet basically controls the entire Ukie coast and all of the Black Sea itself. The Black Sea fleet also prevents any resupply of Odessa from Romania. Russia has full air superiority over the entire Ukie airspace

Karen Kobylanksi

In nearly a month since Russia intervened dozens of Ukrainian cities and towns have fallen, and the fight over the country’s largest cities continues. United Nations human rights specialists say that barely 900 civilians have died in the fighting (U.S. intelligence puts that number at least five times UN estimates). About 6.5 million Ukrainians have also become internally displaced (15 percent of the entire population), half of them leaving the country to find safety. However, Russian military has demonstrated remarkable restraint compared to US invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan that killed millions and destroyed the whole infrastructure.

“The destruction is not massive, as compared to US orchestrated shock and awe from Iraq and Libya”, a senior analyst working at the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) commented, “especially when compared with what Europeans and Americans are used to seeing as the result of indiscriminate American bombing of civilians from Afghanistan to Libya “

Last edited 3 months ago by Karen Kobylanksi
rattus

India and China are two of the five nations in the BRICS alliance. Brazil, another key member of the bloc, also refuses to denounce Russia

Marius

I disagree. Trolls aside this article is right.

“Numerous analysts have noted that Russia is being annihilated by the Western countries in the ‘information war’ theatre of operations”

Sadly, Russia but is being annihilated by the NATO/ukrainian propaganda. They managed to present as both weak and incompetent but also incredibly brutal and even evil. While Ukrainians are nice little innocent babies, totally defenseless but somehow manage to destroy godzillion Russian tanks and planes.

Maidanists are well trained in art of propaganda and lies by their NATO masters since 2013. They use all dirty tricks to achieve this delusion. For example: Ukrainian pregnant women that apparently was injured in Russian Airstrikes on a hospital is still alive and part of a new propaganda video

https://twitter.com/Shentertainer/status/1505978494081241093

Clyde

It matters not. The operation to powerwash the CIA and Nazi shit out of the Ukraine continues.

Jimmy

The western corrupt governments are spreading disinformation and censoring real facts from getting to their skittish populations. NATO is a collection of US lapdogs but is scared that if they go too far in trying to destroy Russia, they will face a nuclear war and complete destruction of Europe, US and Australia. Russia has been too soft so far, but the Kremlin spokesman Peskov today openly said that Russia will use nuclear weapons to defend itself.

Russia could use nuclear weapons if existence threatened: Kremlin

Kremlin spokesperson says Russia has a ‘concept of domestic security’ that outlines when nuclear weapons can be used.

Billy

Is the pedophile not Afraid of a nuclear war?

Children are not so sweet and succulent ina nuclear winter

jens holm

CORRUPTION:

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jens holm

I verry enjoy posting this big, huge shitwalls.

Because I verry like big, huge… things

Billy Bob

The lunatic uses typical paid propagandist diversionary tactics like hasbara does. They fail though and turns the poster into a joke. This guy is just plain dumb.

owkaka

Yes, this total idiot jens holm and that other total idiot bandera-muhamad deliberately spam rubbish all over this comment section and every comment section.

Why the f%#@ SF allows that??!

Billy Bob

All it confirms is that the US is worse than most third world corrupt failed states. We know that already. Thanks for confirming. Denmark and NZ are tiny insignificant ants.

jens holm

yes. The new oligarcs are based on coffins, flowers and undertakers. Some seemes t be in construction as well.

hmm

hopefully you’ll be put in coffin soon. or at least in a cage.

Marius

Another example: Komsomolskaya Pravda was hacked yesterday, SBU or someone planted a text claiming that almost ’10k Russian soldiers were killed according to MOD’. Total nonsense, yet countless western media published this lie, probably many in Russia read it as well. Only in the evening someone noticed this, they finally removed it and explained what happened. But most Western media won’t even publish their denial. Those who do, also add ‘aha, Ruskies are lying, now they are trying to hide this no doubt!’. The damage was done.

Same with that “Russian tank” in Kiev driving over a civilian car on the first day of the war, endlessly repeated all over Western media and social networks only to be debunked 3 days later.

Last edited 3 months ago by Marius
admin user

yes, the 10k killed lie was reported in MSM western media, i saw it and thought ‘I don’t believe it‘

jens holm

But on Monday, the Russian tabloid Komsomolskaya Pravda, which frequently posts pro-Kremlin news reports, published a bombshell buried deep in a news story about the war: “According to Russian defence ministry data … 9,861 Russian soldiers had been killed in action and another 16,153 had been wounded.”

Loki

Fake news moron. It was hacked and you obviously have no eyes nor brain.

Sunny

I read the article and it was ridiculously obvious it was fake. The Russian MoD always publicly post any statements regarding the war. The fact that the article couldn’t provide any sort of source was an instant red flag. Yet all the usual suspects and bots on southfront were spamming the same article dozens of times even tho it was an obvious “ghost of kiev 2.0”. 1 hour later, in lockstep, they all moved on to their usual namecalling post, REE RUSSIA BAD UKRAINE GOOD REE PUTLER BAD. Try to be less obvious JIDF, sounding desperate as you do is not a good look.

FACT CHECKER

The Bandera Nazis are losing both on the battlefield as well as the propaganda war as the majority of world’s population has access to free media in Russia, China and Iran. The very fact that the west banned RT is an indication of their desperation and loss of propaganda war. US and its EU puppets are even isolated at the G-20 where Indonesian President has personally invited President Biden to attend along with India and China.

jens holm

Here is Your source:

But on Monday, the Russian tabloid Komsomolskaya Pravda, which frequently posts pro-Kremlin news reports, published a bombshell buried deep in a news story about the war: “According to Russian defence ministry data … 9,861 Russian soldiers had been killed in action and another 16,153 had been wounded.”

By that its not made up by Ukras or West.

And whats the Russian official numbers – They are impossible.

Loki

You can’t write, you can’t read, you are an idiot. That’s not source that’s fake news. It was hacked and you are repeating debunked lies.

Billy Bob

That was a proven fake article posted by the CIA and refuted by all.

Last edited 3 months ago by Billy Bob
Jimmy

Western media censorship and lies are being exposed even in US.

US colonel Mcgreggor on Fox news: Most of Ukrainian and NATO claims are false

Ukrainian Air Force has 0 air to air kills while Russian strikers are hitting Ukrainian infrastructure at will. If the Ukrainians even had rudimentary air to air capability they’d be able to shoot down subsonic cruise missiles yet all they can come up with is a story of Stingers intercepting Iskanders, which is really laughable

Russians released helmet camera footage, Ukraine released… Video game footage.

N007

Yup, If the West is so confident in its own propaganda abilities and their “truth” why they so hysterically banned RT? They have zillion tv stations, newspapers, they control social media. Yet they are so afraid of one tv station?

Jimmy

As most rational people know, this Ukraine warmongering is all about the long term WASP and Jew plan to destroy Russia and that is why the so-called west, which is nothing but a collection of opportunist racists and plunderers is trying to censor the TRUTH. US is run by a demented 80 year old in diapers fed by Zionists whose agenda is the Balkanization of Russia. Ukraine is historical Russian land, Kievan-Rus and that is thy the majority of the world is not buying Anglo-Zionist Russophobia.

jens holm

Russia is already destroyed. The did it themself.

jens holm

Sputnik too.

Why has Putin banned even most of their own medias and the use of Facebook and Instagram.

But You of course not dare to tell why. Putin has threatened You not to.

And we laugh and cry here looking at all those bare bottom behinds knowing how smelling dirty they are.

Russia tol its military forces about picking flowers.

Barry

Get off the drugs, they’re rotting your brain… oh wait – you have none.

Florian Geyer

Correct. I need to use a VPN and a different country flag to access RT now :)

MSM news and media is complete garbage and has been for a long time now.

jens holm

He is a person not even Trump could use.

Maybee the strippers make the dresscode in Russia too🛀🏼

jens holm

And thats a copy paste by Yorself. Aprils fool is next month. So You are only fool unless Your real name is April. .

Q

How do you manage to write something as stupid as this crap?

jens holm

None here in west has descriebed Ukraine as anything like that. Your infoirmation must be made up by Putin.

We have made hard critisism but also try to help by devellopments to the world.

It very new to me USA as well as UK support Nazias as You descriebe. they support Ukraine can defend themself. Here the Azovs are one unit of 20 brigade in the whole Ukriane(+ reserves).

And sure. Some 82,2% Ukras should not be runned by 17,8% russians remainning as a Moskwa Oblast. That was what happend ay Maidan. Denmark also contributed to that needed change mainly by NGOs.

I feel fine about it. Now we have a Ukraine quagmire instead of a Russian one. It alos has hopes by elctions in an almost sober elction in 2019 for President and the prlament and the local parlament. Noe they at least has or had hopes.

hmm

idiot let me explain you slowly: stop spamming incomprehensive gibberish and go fuuuck yourself someplace. any place other than this.

jens holm

I just tell whats going on. If I meet incompetent illiterate crap or systemtic of same kind, I comment that too.

We do something like that with all infections here.

You are like covid. Keep distance, wash hands in alkohol in stead of drinking. I You have doubt about persons are infected or not, You use a hammer for own safety.

sod off

Your mouth are full of “incompetent illiterate crap” you stupid animal.

You are like covid, ebola and gonorrhea from your mouth but more primitive than any virus. Virus is more intelligent than you you imbecilic animal turd. Take that hammer and dildo from your butthole and use it on your empty head to stop producing so much shit you moooooooroooooooon.

Marshal K.K. Rokossovsky

Russia has fired hardly 625 missiles at Ukraine in the past two weeks, even according to The Pentagon liars.

That figure is meant to shock the gullible brainwashed western sheeple.

Consider this FACT, The Zionist regime fired the same number of shells into a single neighborhood of Gaza *in one hour* during its 2014 attack and killed 1500 women and children and destroyed 70% of all buildings.

jens holm

The Russians has told that number themself.

Viktor

No surprise there. Remember Yugoslavia: ‘humanitarian catastrophe!’ or Syria: ”chemical weapons!’ among countless other examples. Western media are experts on lying and creating hysteria. No one can compete with them. Russia is a major rival, that’s why major, unprecedented smear campaign is necessary. And it started long time ago, this is culmination.

Michel LeBlanc

Propaganda does not affect anything on the ground in this conflict.

Lies are a bubble, the bubble will pop. I will sit back and watch the rats eat each other, remember how they acted after they fled Kabul last summer?

Florian Geyer

With ‘ Infantile propaganda ‘ the US and NATO fight war is the sum of NATO abilities, apart from paying terrorists of the worst kind to do the dirty work of the US/UK.

Britain for centuries has been described as ‘ Perfidious Albion’ for good reason.

Jean Luc

Wars are won on the Battlefield. Not in the comments section. Every side can vent some anger but thats all. Physically it won’t change anything, for neither side.

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Ratty

Unless there is a mole within military intelligence of one of the powers directly or indirectly involved and they use this forum to provide intel.

Ashok Varma

There is no need for any intelligence on blogs, the Russian GRU and Indian RAW are close allies and have the best ELINT and HUMINT in the world and they know that the western censored media is propagating sheer lies and fabrications. There are robust military analysis in the open Indian media by such objective and esteemed analysts like General Bakshi who has been right all along. Russia needs to take the gloves off and fight to the finish as this is a Anglo-Zionist war against the Russian people and Russia itself and they will not stop until Russia is Balkanized. Russia needs to use every available weapons and resources to destroy the Ukrainian racist trash, once and for all. Ukraine is Russian land and must be reintegrated with Russia.

owkaka

As I can see Indian forums in English are being overrun by pro-NATO bots, Defence Forum India, Hindustan Times on YT etc.

Ashok Varma

That is true, all the western call centres in India are now being forced by the Bilderberg corporations to fan Russophobia and fake news. All the employees at META (Facebook), Microsoft, and every western corporation in India have been instructed to plant fake news, fabrications and lies propaganda against Russia and China to some extent. Previously, it was Iran, which is now on the backburner.

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Ostsee

Yanks are trying to force China and India to follow their orders. Almost impossible to influence China so they focus on India.

Karen Kobylanksi

Unfortunately, India still has subservient mentality and an inferiority complex vis a vis the west. China is too powerful economically to be threatened as it will also destroy the wobbly western economies.

jens holm

If they try that we will fight back and win unless they use nukes. By niúkes there will be no winners apart from hindu ants and worm in Your next life.

hmm

you are a worm in this life.

jens holm

My ancisters were worms in apples. We also gave dress code for Adam and Eva

jens holm

Sure several are.

Ashok Varma

Russia is fighting for the decency of humanity against the most vile NAZI roaches and racist fascist trash of Ukraine, the images of Indian and foreign students being abused by the Ukrainian cowardly racists and now daily images of women and children tied to the tress with tape and their faces painted black by Nazis just for speaking Russian is turning people’s mass revolution around the world. JAI RUS! God Bless and Protect President Putin.

ATLGA

I can’t wait to see India fulfill their destiny after freeing themselves from the chains of colonialism. The trolls here hate India because they are stuck flipping burgers at McDonald’s while Indians are brought in to work in the tech sector as the Western youth suffers from mind-rot and propaganda brought on by Instagram and Facebook. The trolls can’t fathom that they just need to sit down and open a book to change their financial situation.

jens holm

Its the same in many parts ofthe world. People dont educate themself and by that also dont reward themself. But education is very needed.

Its the same for Jews and well known for old days in the catholic Feudal eastern Europe.

Only the Jews makes the middle class or even gets very rich by that. That has to be punished and are used by the top as well as the bottom.

We have no problems withj Jews here in Denmark. We educate as them. We also has very good taxsystems. Peopel only get rich AFTER having paid tax to schools, educations, hspitals, healthcare, pensions a.s.o.

It also has given equal rights for all. They are not perfect yet. Vomen now fx dont get money at divorses because they have education, jobs and own bank account.

You only can change that by investing in people with education and make a bihg middleclass.

Its very visible here. Critisists of USA always manetion the poor and the rich but not the 165 million middleclass americans doing better then themself. Most of the poor in USA also is less poor then its told about.

I think some danes discriminate muslims. The problem is only a little more then 50% are in jobs. But the rest are not.

Another problem is hard overcrime and treating girls and vomen very bad. Here its many but the mainpart is not like that. Its a more fair kind of old fathers rule – fair.

Q

How hard is it for your three brain cells to comprehend that your posts are incredibly stupid and no one ever read that rubbish?

jens holm

I writte here to practicer my Anglish and my sociall skils.

Bazza

What social skills you dumb wally? you are a drongo troll, ya stupidcunt.

A Fellow

God, I’ve always supported India on the matter of Kashmir, but all the whining from Indians from the guff they allegedly get from Ukrainians is slowly turning me to support Kashmiri secession from India (whether that means they become a small state or part of Pakistan).

Oh, and good luck to the Naxalites as well.

Ashok Varma

The FACT remains that the Anglo-Zionist racist thugs are fanning Russophobia and committing horrendous crimes against Russians and minorities. Every Indian and decent person is repulsed by the Ukrainian drug addicted racist Nazis. If you don’t like the truth then Chinese reporting on Ukrainian and western Nazi racism and crimes will make you even more uncomfortable. The images of Indian students, Africans and Arabs being racially abused by the Ukrainian Nazis has turned literally billions of people against the Ukrainian criminal racist Kiev regime, all of India is praying that the noble Russian people destroy this racist trash. JAI RUS!

jens holm

The Kashmir is completly irrelevant in this.

The traditions are all over and right now even worse by Modi.

But Hindus has very ancient problems too in the Kaste system. I wont go away or at least decline.

It seemes the Congres party alsmost has kiled itself by mistake. Thats why India became a Hindustate not even solving the hinduproblems.

owkaka

You are completely irrelevant. Stop spamming rubbish!

jens holm

Thats copypaste. I dont like being served insekts. It make no chnge they are served twice or three times.

You are IN SECTS.

jens holm

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jens holm

I jens Holm Denmark gave the list. BUT IT COVERS SCORE FOR CORRUPTION and nothing else apart form Yuri white trash form kansas trailer park.

jens holm

No they are not.

They are working hard to make an new collapse and seemes to make progress.

2,15% are nazis in Ukraine. The rest is 150% non Russians. Its a well recogninized county the last 30 years. It has a president more and better elected the Putin. It also has a Parlament which can outtnumber him and with about 26 political parties. It also has local elections with local influende.

Unfortunatly also has quagmires as You descriebe.

jens holm

The ones winning the wars often never win the peace.

jens holm

Thats not me realisme Jens Holm Denmark.

Muhammad your Prophet

What, Scooby? All of a sudden it dawns on the Putin cockroaches how truly fucked Putin is? Yeah, I’m laughing at that one. What a bunch of fucking morons?

Hunter Biden your Pimp

Bunch of fucking morons (1000000 of them) fucked your cockroach mother in her bum. that’s why she excreted such a stinky moronic turd like you.

jens holm

Not everything is semilar to where you live.

hmm

you live in biden’s asshole

jens holm

I jens Holm Denmark live in Denmark.

Denmark is verry similar to Bidens asshole. But smaller.

Clyde

Putin? Compared to the US ownership of the Ukraine, or the Ukrainian “leadership”. Yushchenko reminds me of a US mega-church swindler. Poroshenko? And now, a creatured cloned from one of Andy Kauffman’s turds has taken the country right over the cliff. It’s not an exaggeration, the Ukraine is owned by the US, the greatest force for terror and murder on the face of the earth for over seventy years. It’s like you’re brain-injured or were raised in a psychology experiment where television replaced parenting and education. Just an utter fuck-pile.

jens holm

Thre is no ownership by USA and UK.

They are supporters and by that has reformed their amred forces well. Thye are restructured and they has a lot of updated equipment added to the old stuff. The ukras now are very well educated soldiers.

The rest is crap. USA now is a very important trade partner buying kra things. We do the same with them as independent countries do.

Thats normal in the normal world.

If Ukreas was owned by USA Putin has gas wasnt there at all.

We just wanr´t Ukras to be 90 years old before they die and given pension for it. The Russianveresion is 80.

Ashok Varma

You need a get a proper job Scooby, as your idiotic propaganda is making a fool out of you on a daily basis. Russia is on the right side history and world opinion has confirmed it. You trolls are only creating more enemies for NATO lapdogs. Russia will win as always. JAI RUS!

Muhammad your Prophet

It doesn’t matter, Scooby, because every single report out there puts the crappy Russian army on the retreat and losing ground by the second with no supply lines or reinforcements to hold that territory. If you don’t like it then go fucking cry in the corner.

Ashok Varma

Yet in 3 weeks Russian has destroyed 90% of the cowardly Ukrainian Nazis and liberated 30% of the land, including all of Don Bas, so Scooby what gives?

Muhammad your Prophet

They liberated it to the vermin. So you can join the vermin and feel right at home.

jens holm

I smiled and got a vision. He took up his feet to relax. Now he has no feet.

hmm

and you have no brain. really, you don’t.

jens holm

When I sleep or relax Its for rent. Its used for making correct tax pay and being nice to friends and family. They all are macho men

Its paid by free acces to their wifes and girls. Its a must they serve wine and are over 16 years old.

yo666

oh yamileth! again??

jens holm

This is supported by Belarus, Eritrea, Cuba, Assad and North Korea.

Iname it non formation

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Jens Assholm

Go support Joe’s limp dick with your mouth you dumb monkey.

jens holm

If we paint You, You will be upograded to white trash

Jens Assholm

Stop mumbling with Joe’s dick in your dumb mouth you monkey trash from Aarhus ZOO.

Phariah

Russia should (un)directly annex Eastern, Central and Sourthern Ukraine. China’s proposal should only be taken into account in relation to western Ukraine. If all Russia gets for all this flood of smear fake news, sanctions, antirussian persection/censorship, dead soldiers etc.. is a piece of paper and a “bridge to the west” scenario, Putin shold be sacked along with the incompetent morons who suggested it.

jens holm

Its no my fault things are as they are. I so many times has proposed here and several other sites, they could do as we danes did ta the end of WW1.

Danes here could have taken back anything we lost to Preussen in 1864. Halft of the population in that Preussen expansion was danes. Many even was soldiers in the German army and many wal killed there. many also emmigrated form there to USA, China, Australia.

BUT we decided to votre about it and did. By that we only too back the area, where 90% were danes and didnt take the part were danes only was 10%.

That made very good relations, which has been like that ever since(apart from the nazis).

Today many 1000 are crosing the non existing border. People has home in one country and job in the other one. We support culture and schools and even germans are using the danish schools in Schlewsvig.

They share hospitals, firbrigades and the the police free can cross the borders, so criminals cant escape by another country.

They also unite in devellopment programs for Roads and nature in EU. By that they make good projekts in windpowers and powerlines for it.

Thats what could be done, but it seemes impossible now. I really 5think it should have been done like that in about 1993(Budapest whaever).

It also was bad omen to give Crimera to Ukraine even the southern parts of ukraine was tataristan. Instead the ukras should have had naval bases at a Russia Crimera.

jens holm

So many here sytematicly forget that Ukraine and Belarus as well as Germany, Poland and some small enclaves moved USSR west. Moldavia is a strange version too.

Only few in Poland wants Poland almost to Minsk again. Onlyu few want Galizia back. Here half of the population was poles and half was ukras.

But they want better reations and free bordercroosing and devellopments. That why so many use the Polish Pilsuski flag in belarus and western Ukraine.

To me its also very strange Russia got Königsberg. It would make sense it was given to rhe very small Lituania or as a part of Poland.

I finnaly think Putins shoukd have been repanced long time ago. They now are doing exact the same, which made USSR collapse. Thye had made no replacers, they has made no alternative and better ways to run the busines.

The central Governess is bad. The local semi indeoendent states in it are made weak, so the weask krimlins can control them.

Nut control is more control by fear and bajonets. That dont do devllopments and raise livingstandards.

So You are right. We keep Minsk 2 but do Our best to give Putin nothing or a minus. It seemes Putin is a helping hand for that.

jens holm

Ukras are not like that. So man has jobs and are used to at lest have something.

That goes for many here. They aree creating their own dark state and blame us for it.

Hardly any here read or understand much gpoing on in west even most things are open.

Its like most muslims comming here as refugees and slome few as emmigrants too. Their prayer start says: It has been written.

But facts are, they are told it has been written but the facts are the Choran has been modified for centuries by old mans rule for control of the rest.

Finally quantity is not the same as quality. I can compare with danish Greenland. It does not make us to a superpower and big.

But danes are big for their seize. Its because we go to school, educate for free, find Our skills and work hard. In that we also has included all the best we can. Equl right for all. LGBTs are accepted and do well. Criminals vote. Incomming foreigners after three years can vote and be elected in Our local elections and do.

Every room, jobs, schools, in the streets are normal. Normal is mixted. We only seperate by gender´for changing clothe or toilet visiting.

Thats how it is. They dont undertstand education by schools, finding skills and hard work pays off. Instead people are descriebed as if we are thieves taking from them.

It makes no sense to be thieves and steal from people having nothing. No we steal from exh other.

Here we include as many as possible for equal rights. That homogenize us by accept. The resukts are there in big GDP, low corruption, trusted police and courts. We mainly are safe in the streets vomen and girls included. People looking down like them often are the bottom of the world. Some use chairs and high heels. Many here treat their very expensive wife a boymaker in the kitchen only.

Women in those areas forced low in IQ.

When they coome to here their IQ is raised to the same level as dansish women. Evn in Islam, they get more right, because they learn danish and by that can read and understand a modern and traditional version of it.

I kind of feel fine about gays. They have time for education and by that pays a lot of tax. They also makes no children but support the ones, which have. I also during the years has had very strange neighbors much worse then almost any kind of gay.

Now I quote only god advices from there. I joke too.

So why did Jesus wear sandals`? Well, he was not goof in knots. Sometimes making wine into water is a good thing too.

Jens Assholm

See, Bandera/Muhamad/Yamil? That’s the level of trolling ^^^ you’ll never achieve no matter how much you try.

Yes, your bullshit is pretty stupid, very stupid, extremely stupid.

But Jens’ bullshit make no sense whatsoever 😃 And he can keep producing rubbish more than anyone including you.

WTF

Are you kind of algorithm? Broken one.

Jimmy

Dude you are the dumbest schmuck in cyberspace. Give it rest and take some English courses.

jens hoIm

Ill change nothing in my english. This is about oppinions and no spellin test. ´Sure we mqaonkies still are monkies no matter which close we have.

jens holm

You write as You are in cyperspace or maybe controls the pedalss in the marslanders.

There are no English courses which can make improments for med. So I dont care.

I also never can run 100 meters in less then 10 seconds.

jens holm

Im a proud danish tranny neonazis. I wi take revenge for my fallen Azov lover. I will throw you in the head with rotten danish fish in vinegar. You punk. Little jensi is very angry 💢😡. I will dildo you real good.

Jimmy

That I believe.

NATO Empire of Lies

Western media proclaimed fight against ‘fake news’ after Trump’s win in 2016. yet today they are competing in creating more ludicrous and grotesque fake stories with zero evidence in this insane anti-Russian hysteria.

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deja vu

Nothing new since the famous Pulitzer and his rival Hearts: yellow journalism, dirty lies and warmongering against Spain more than 120 years ago . They are repeating and recycling exactly the same patter, exactly the same lies, again and again: Bosnia, Syria, Ukraine… there is always some friendly Indian tribe fighting against “brutal aggressors and dictators” and waiting for Uncle Sam to save them.

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yep

until they realize uncle sam is a dirty pedo like uncle joe 😒

jens holm

Some are still waiting being 250 years old.

Pedo Andy from Fcukingham Palace

Don’t forget my Windsor family of pedos.

jens holm

A lot of pedos in my family. Now Windsor but Holm family Denmark.

N007

Cavalry won’t save Ukros this time

Clyde

The US population went from mass illiteracy to Pulitzer and Hearst’s yellow journalism, to state propaganda created by people like Edward Bernays, to CIA stooge Henry Luce, to Rupert Murdoch. They have existed in the most propaganda-dense environment of any people on earth. They believe the absolutely absurd 9/11 fairy tale, and think they’re the most propserous nation on earth with 40 million on food stamps.

Ostsee

unfortunately , U.S. propaganda today is global propaganda. All media in the US are controlled by the same cabal and almost all media in the world blindly repeat whatever American media say. especially in Europe.

BangderaSteponPutin

Those two countries have a language problem. Nobody understands them. Nobody cares to learn Chinese or Hindu. They don’t even understand eachother. But everyone speaks English. Control the language – control the ideas – win the information war. Plus Russian is a disgusting langue even the Russians hate it

Clyde

There is no information war. Public support for the continued use of Ukrainian people as bullet-catchers for the Americans will not stop the Russians. If the US had a real policy that required public support, then manipulating the public with an absurd propaganda narrative like the one spun about the Ukraine would matter. But the US has no policy. They simply did not expect the Russians to say “no’.

Cibrian

Not only the West Mass Media News. Don’ t forget that for decades, the Hollywood industry has done hard work to demonize Russia and to create the russophobia.

jens holm

Thats incorrect. The do have removed a lot of slavery statues just as done with Stalin. The Southern flag is almost gone and there are a lot of changes, which republicans try to defend.

Theirs and mine version is, that if we just remove things, we by that also censur we are not alaways nice and sometimes bad Ourself.

There You can fo to Stalin againg. Its exact the same. Not only the tatars and the Tjetjenians are Your Indians.

jens holm

Im from as small country. By uniting with many other small countries trying to make friends they cant eat us. I see no keep and they have crashed none. At WW1 they almost avaided to be in war.

I see the picture. Smaller buildings, more small bicycles and even more narrowminded. Maybee they in the next generations will be smaller and smaller.

I kind of feel fine about gays. They have time for education and by that pays a lot of tax. They also makes no children but support the ones, which have. I also during the years has had very strange neighbors much worse then almost any kind of gay.

jens holm

Thats highly incorrect. We have tryed to get more sober relations in the IT sector. It was not new to have antvirus and ather kind of defences before that.

But Trump was a very nasty one.

It also has to be remenbered, that the internet by androids and mobiles too had been rapidly growing an by that easier to se as well as manipulate.

jens holm

I unfortunatly see that competing well too. Its very Russian Putin has closed all own medias having own oppinions. Facebook and Instágram is forbidden too. No more russian propaganda at Yutube as well. No crap from the Russian embassis around the world.

But You ignore we everyday and every hour has contact to Ukriane by the refugees here. Even it often is in biased family and friends versions, they are biased, but we see the rest in pictures, videos and speak.

We do have some few sober journalists there too.

You live in the old days about it. Not all Russians only are connected to Putin having only an arm as antenna.

jens holm

As too often such an artickle tell the enemy is worth nothing and even add museum.

Freedoom of speech is not meant as this. Is meant to make better decidings by many small brains are much better in networks then one big one. Its because we then handle things together and on many levels at the same time.

Even one brrain or several are out of order, the rest will continue and mainly not much will collapse until the replacements are there as good as new, better or almost as good as new. Continuitives.

Thats how it is. They dont undertstand education by schools, finding skills and hard work pays off. Instead people are descriebed as if we are thieves taking from them.

It makes no sense to be thieves and steal from people having nothing. No we steal from exh other.

Here we include as many as possible for equal rights. That homogenizes us by accept. The resukts are there in big dick GDP, low corruption, trusted police and courts. We mainly are safe in the streets vomen and girls included. People looking down like them often are the bottom of the world. Some use chairs and high heels. Many here treat their very expensive wife a boymaker in the kitchen only.

Danes here could have taken back anything we lost to Preussen in 1864. Halft of the population in that Preussen expansion was danes.

BUT we decided to votre about it and did. By that we only too back the area, where 90% were danes and didnt take the part were danes only was 10%.

They also unite in devellopment programs for Roads and nature in EU. By that they make good projekts in windpowers and powerlines for it.

Even the moon is defined as something with no hair.

owkaka

Hey dimwit do you really think someone is crazy like you to read all that shyte????

Cibrian

Not only the West Mass Media News. Don’ t forget that for decades, the Hollywood industry has done hard work to demonize Russia and to create the russophobia.

N.N.

I am very concerned about the “small arms” like Stinger or Javelin, which seem to have massive impact. While I wish that Russia wins, I hope they can find a way to thwart those weapons, which are easy to conceal and operate. Focussing the analysis on the large high tech systems is imho not really useful, as we have seen in numerous places, most recently in Afghanistan, because complex and expensive high-tech systems don’t win a partisan war.

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Jnoub

I think the Chechens should come into the frontlines because they’re guerrilla. All the Chechens have to do is fight guerrilla style for a bit until Ukrainians lose the bit of morale they have left, and Russia comes back pounding hard

A Fellow

There is no bigger victory you could hand to the Azov Battalion and similar units than to give Chechens a bigger role.

Even if the ultranationalists’ field personnel get decimated by the Russian armed forces proper, their media wings will be in the best position possible to incite an asymmetric resistance if a bunch of bearded Muslims brutalizing Ukrainians plays a role in this conflict. Involving Chechens would be the best way to ensure that Azov & co. become indestructible.

You would be proving right every ultranationalist talking point about Russia being an Asiatic horde part caliphate & part khanate. I even wonder at what point Russian foot soldiers themselves would lose their cool over Chechens mistreating their Slavic brethren (aren’t Ukrainians supposedly “little Russians” as Putin says afterall?) and commit friendly fire.

Finally…I assume you mean the Chechens would have greater counterinsurgent wits having been former guerrillas? Because they themselves can’t “fight guerrilla style” in this conflict…they are not part of the population and cannot dissolve into it.

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BangderaSteponPutin

That’s true. The azovites will die like martyrs in Mariupol. They will be glorified. They will be worshiped. The worst possible mistake putin did was to involve the Chechens. They have no beef in Ukraine. They’re just pouring more fuel on the fire of Ukrainan radicalization.

Jnoub

What’s your best take on Russia countering guerrilla warfare then? I said Chechens because they’re trained for it. Hezbollah didn’t need to blend in Syria to kick ISIS ass. Knowing that there’s isis and nazi on Ukraine side, Chechens maybe soon forced into the fight. I sure hope Hezbollah has people there to supervise the Chechens, because Hezbollah knows best how to fight guerrilla, especially against Zionist and ISIS.

ivan

Harumph

N007

Not really. Far more dangerous is artillery/ Grad. I am concerned they will smuggle more from East European NATO vassals, some of them still have these systems.

Sunny

Fighting to the last man is only for the plebs. Anyone with any sort of status fled the country long ago. Personally I wouldn’t be all that interested in protecting the interests of western Oligarchs, but hey that’s just me. AZOV are currently experiencing firsthand that they were never anything more than expendable cannon fodder to the west.

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BangderaSteponPutin

You need to give the Ukrainians their country back so they can feel they have control over their own lives. They don’t want Russian occupation, they don’t want Russian intervention, they don’t want the stinking breath of vodka filled Russians in their neighbourhood. Russia will get more Ukrainian nationalism, more Rusophobia, more hatred, more insurgency, more and more Ukrainians fighting back. Ukraine will never stop untill they get all the territories Russia has stolen from them including the breakaway republics and Crimea. Many young Russian are disgusted by this war and the putinist generation will die in a few decades but the historical and cultural trauma between the two nations will never heal.

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ATLGA

Bad news troll. Germany got their shit kicked in by Russia in the Second World War and have been sucking gas and oil like a baby from the mother ever since. I know Azov wannabes like you with Hitler tattoos on your buttocks don’t want to admit the truth. Even Ukrainians know Zelensky gets off to parking heavy weapons in civilian infrastructure from his bunker. Mercenary rats running for their lives are tweeting about Territorial Defense fragging civilians, Ukrainian civilians are the ones warning them about it. Probably paranoid from all the meth and coke.

BangderaSteponPutin

Buying gas from Russia doesn’t mean they’re in love with the country. The Germans know very well who is putin and whoever they’re dealing with. Do you really think putin is popular in Germany? That’s a liberal country, they despise putin more the Ukrainians. And guess what, Germany has thrown another 20 billion in their military budget. Now their military spending is higher than Russia’s. What do you think they’re spending that money for?

ATLGA

Another moronic take by you. The chief of Germany’s navy had to resign after commenting that Putin deserved respect, I’m sure he’s not the only one that feels that way. The powers that repress Das Volk had to make sure not even one public representation of critical thinking or independent thought were let through. When you live in an echo chamber it’s hard to tell the truth from fiction. I would advise you to educate yourself friend.

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Clyde

What is a “liberal” country? The US that literally destroys any state that shows the slightest deviation from the demands of US financial entities? You shouldn’t have been allowed to play with plastic bags when you were a kid, the lack of oxygen has clearly damaged your cognitive capacities.

xRasputinish

They are spending it all on American shite that can’t and won’t stand up to scrutiny when deployed on the battlefield against the far superior and infinitely more sophisticated weaponry of the Russians.

Alex

Your shitty Germany drinks more alcohol these days than Russia and the Brits drink way more vodka/all other alcohol than Russia. Ukraine drinks more than twice the amount of alcohol compared to Russia World Health Organization September 2019 statistics on alcohol consumption. Russian alcohol consumption went down by 40% from 2008 to 2018. It’s not Russia that has an opioid crisis and an alcohol problem these days. It’s the west. Have fun being a little delusional bitch.

BangderaSteponPutin

Lol are you serious? Russian men hardly reach their 70’s, because of their alcohol abuse. Average life expectancy for males is 65. And Russia has both an hiv and drug epidemic. Plus it’s a dying nation, life is so unbearable and living conditions are so hard that people don’t want to reproduce anymore. Russia is the biggest country in the world. There is so much wealth in Russia that they could all live like kings. But the oligarchs take the assets and average Russians live like slaves.

Yamil Perez Dead

Your monkey brain is dying. 99,9% is dead. Literally every word from that yapping hole you have instead of mouth is wrong as always you dumb fuckin idiot. Alcohol consumption in Russia is within European average and lower than many EU countries you dumb fucking idiot. Life expectancy for males in Russia is almost 70 (68.2), for all 73.2 nothing to do with alcohol but mostly with wars, demographically they still didn’t recover from WW2. They were fighting against Nazis while you bitches were sucking Nazi dick. They still fight against Nazis and you still suck Nazi dicks.

Keep sucking and keep yapping, always proving how incredibly clueless and brainless you are, dumb fuckin idiot.

Alex

Cool nazi fairytale for the SS youth, bro. Are you saying that official international statistics are false and Germans aren’t drinking 13.2 liters of alcohol per person annually, while Brits drink 11.4 liters of alcohol while the Russians drink 9.7 liters of alcohol. Meanwhile in democratic EU loving Ukraine and the Baltics, people actually drink 15 to 18 liters of alcohol per person. I guess the World Health Organization September 2019 stats are wrong and your dumb ass must be right lol. Also, you moron, Russians infant mortality rate is much lower than the U.S’s these days and its in the top 3 most fertile countries from all the European countries on the continent. Every year the Russian fertility rate goes up. Welcome to the 2020s don’t let the door hit you on your way out of power.

BangderaSteponPutin

For Russian males the alcohol consumption is 18 l/year per capita. Life expectancy for males in Germany is 81. The average Russian man should not expect to reach 70. Also Russia has the worst housing situation in Europe with a third of the housing stock being old, run down and overcrowded. In Germany is less than 5%

Clyde

Russian life expectancy collapsed when the country was turned over to the Seven Oligarchs who worked for US bankers.

BangderaSteponPutin

They all work for us bankers sure

jens holm

You need to try harder to surpass my popularity here.

But I allow you to be my sidekick! I am Batman and you are my Robin/Batgirl.

BangderaSteponPutin

I’m not even trying I’m just positing my honest opinion here. No honestly, I’m studying you fuckers three’s some really fucked up people in this comment section. Fun fun fun. psychology is a hobby of mine

jens holm

Sorry, you can’t be my Robin, you are too dumb. But you can be my dog/bitch. Scooby.

diagnosis

No one gives a flying fuck about your worthless opinion you boring braindead moron. Or for you sad, pathetic existence in general. Spamming 10000 moronic comments every day is not your opinion, it’s trolling. Stupid, lame trolling. Substitute for your life, lack of it. Every monkey with a keyboard can do the same. You are a failure even as a troll. You’re nothing but a pitiful shitty loser with countless mental problems and very low intelligence.

BangderaSteponPutin

Still you can’t stop yourself from replying

Timmy Temperance

Sorry but I didn’t read the article. The Towers in New York collapsed because jumbo jets crashed into them. The end. The only ‘conspiracy’ theories I will entertain concern the extent to which the Saudi Royal Family was involved in planning or turning a blind eye to the attack.

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Clyde

That just proves that you’re entirely ignorant of the subject, and an idiot.

Declan

It was the U.S government Israel and Saudi Arabia colluding together.

Clyde

No, it was elements of the US intelligence apparatus, colluding with members of the political and military establishment working with the same sort of folks from Israel. Pick a single aspect of the phenomenon in which there was a role for Saudis, other than the fifteen patsies who were already US intelligence assets from their jihad against Russia. Saudi Arabia did not benefit from the attacks. The US and Israeli imperialists did.

Declan

Listen to what General Wesley Clark said about 9/11 and invading Iraq.

BangderaSteponPutin

The information war is everything dummy, you don’t seem to get it. Every single battle is a battle for people’s ideas, thoughts and opinions. How could any country sustain a war without the fanatical support of its population? Even the catastrophic logic failure author of this article admits that truth needs to be established and the Ukrainians need to be convinced of that truth. Well the Ukrainians already have their truth, Russia has invaded their country. What other truth could Moscow put into their heads and by what means? Does Russia have the resources to fight the deep hatred of 40 million people who despise Russia to its core?

Antitrol

Keep spamming worthless garbage you desperate spam bot, no one reads your pathetic bullshit. You’re even more stupid than Jens Holm.

BangderaSteponPutin

Just ignore me mister. I don’t mind

N007

Difficult to ignore you trolls when at least half of the comments on every thread are yours.There is no block option nor admin/moderators doing their job. Impossible on Ukrainian sites for example, they censor everything and everyone except their own fanatics .

And then SouthFront is concerned about the information war? They can’t even moderate their own site.

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BangderaSteponPutin

If you have difficulty ignoring me that’s your problem. Don’t blame me for it. Why can’t you just read the stuff you like and ignore the stuff you don’t like? I ignore comments here all the time. 90% of them. Skip me.

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yep

>”And then SouthFront is concerned about the information war? They can’t even moderate their own site.” Spot on ^

SF: The Information War is very important.

Also, SF: let’s allow bunch of anti-Russian trolls to spam anti-Russian crap all over this site every day.

Alex

lol SF is simply showing the futility and stupidity of the anti-Russia trolls.

BangderaSteponPutin

Ukrainians hate Russians because they invaded their country. Same as the middle eastern people hate Americans. But the middle eastern people envy Americans and their lush lifestyles. Meanwhile, there’s nothing to envy about Russia. Why would Ukraine want to be a part of Russia? Russia is today like a prison. A prison of mind where the elite clique has a grip on public opinion. Where the freedom of mind is restricted. Where hatred and nuclear war are being preached. Why would anyone want to be part of that society?

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Clyde

You are literally an imbecile. 40 million Americans live on food stamps. They have always had massive urban ghettos, ghettos that exploded across the country when it was deindustrialized. The prison population in the US is bigger than any other country on earth. Were you trapped in a cellar with nothing but American television to keep you company? Their bridges are crumbling, their public schools failed long ago. I am just astounded that anyone who can read and write could say the things you do about the US. It’s mind-boggling.

BangderaSteponPutin

Sure bud. An American living on food stamps has a higher standard of living than a working class or peasant Russian. Idiot

Clyde

Sure what? Which part of my post is inaccurate? Six corporation own the media in the US. The US rulers talk about nuclear war all the time, and have since they became the only state to ever massacre people with nuclear weapons. You’re a simpleton with the understanding of the US of somebody in the cargo cult in Vanuatu in 1960. The US has destroyed the middle east since 1950, eliminating any semblance of economic independence and development in the region aside from it’s client state in Palestine. A turd in a cat’s litter box has a better understanding of the US and it’s role in the world than you.

BangderaSteponPutin

Nah the middle east is backwards because fundamentalist regimes and dictators have waged the same war on ideas as putin is doing. And Islam traditionalism is not particularly open to new ideas. Turkey us different because they have a more moderate form of Islam and is more European.

Clyde

Wrong, asshole. The British and French stole the middle-east from the Turks in 1918, and completely destabilized it. The US made sure to kill any anti-colonial forces by installing tribal savages in place of the educated classes that existed under the Ottomans. You’re just a stupid, stupid cunt. Cunt.

Johansen

Food stamps – correct. Ghettos – correct. Prison population – most Americans think it should be increased even more, they are sick of crime. Bridges – mostly incorrect, most highway bridges are safe. Public schools – yes failing. However, keep in mind the per-capita GDP of U.S. is $60,000 USD, while that of Russia is $9,000 USD.

BangderaSteponPutin

Russia has more poor than the USA despite the fact that it’s a richer and bigger country with a smaller population. All working classes and peasant classes of Russia are much poorer than the food stamps Americans. That’s about 30-40% of the country. Over 50 million people. Plus housing is terrible in Russia and they have many other problems like declining population, heath, life expectancy and alcohol abuse.

Baconboy

Factually incorrect. US has 130million people on food stamps. They are leading by far in terms of poor people amongst every developed nation.

Clyde

Mostly not incorrect, you dumb asshole. “Roughly a third of the nation’s 620,000 bridges — 36% — need major repair work or replacement, a new report finds.” Russia was literally destroyed economically by the US in the 1991-1999 period. The US was the greatest economic and military power in history. And they still can’t live with a Russia they don’t control.

Johansen

Why so much hate in this part of world, on both sides? You say Russians invaded their country, but hasn’t this been going on for 500 years? Difficult to understand….

BangderaSteponPutin

Never trust a Russian. Because of what they do. But one simply needs to study history to understand why.

Johansen

If you look at a map, Ukraine region is part of Russia. At least the eastern half. Same language, same religion, same ethnicity basically. Why is it unreasonable for Russia to claim at least the east bank of the Dneipper River? Honest question….

BangderaSteponPutin

Well perhaps it was at a point in history but not anymore. The land contains people. Those people call themselves Ukrainians. The Russian state can’t simply write a piece of paper and claim those people as its own. Obviously it can force the region military. But not consensual. And they won’t get international recognition either. If Russia can move it’s borders than any military power might try it too. Why would all the small countries vote for the recognition of annexation? It’s like saying they’re okay with chunks of their lands being grabbed by larger nations. They won’t agree to that in the UN. Borders are very contentious issues in the international community. But Russia knows the international rules and still chooses to ignore them. That’s why nobody trusts Russia anymore.

Johansen

But it’s ostensibly ‘been’ Russia until around 1990. And Russia has a permanent seat in the U.N.

ivan

Dumbass jew predicated epistemological paradigm is fake.

Declan

Ukraine didn’t exist 500 years ago, it was created in the Soviet Union before that the thing that there were multiple ukraines all over the Russian empire just as geographical locations. Ukraine means “the outskirts” , “countryside region”. Pre communism Ukraine was less than 1/4 of the size it is today the rest of the land was added since 1922 up-to 1954 (Crimea).

Johansen

It’s my understanding the real estate known as Ukraine has been fought over and disputed for hundreds of years

ivan

Thousands. Not least since the juice were kicked out of the kingdom of Uruk and Palestine by the Mohammeden reform jews and had to take up residence with their Hunnic mercenary forces in the Khaganate of the Khazars.

Slava

I’m from Ukraine and we support Russia. Volhynia Galicia where psychopath Bandera was born isn’t real Ukraine. You are a moron.

BangderaSteponPutin

Lol you’re not a real Ukrainian if you believe that. You’re rejecting your cultural identity. Bandera was a very important historical figure despite the fact that he spent most of his life in prison. His ideas were very powerful and live on to this day. The KGB recognized the power if his ideas that’s why they assassinated him. But when you do that to someone who has strong ideas, you get just the opposite. The ideas become stronger and the man becomes a martyr and a savior. Putin is just reinforcing the Bandera myth. He is the worst possible politician a nation could get.

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Clyde

A “real Ukrainian”? What kind of fascist dipshit rubbish is that? The power of Bandera’s ideas? You are seriously mentally defective. Bandera’s ideas were so powerful that the only followers he has are DP kooks and their demented offspring in Canada, and the people who gave the Ukraine away to the United States, who used it to start a war with Russia and completely destroy the country. I can’t believe a person as defective as you didn’t die at birth.

Stepan Bandera in Hell

My boy, let me embrace you as soon as possible.

Joshua

This is an interesting article, and I am impressed. The suggested solutions which have been offered look to be pointed in the right direction, in some ways broadly and in some ways specifically. At the very least bringing these points to light is a more positive and responsible approach than many have taken. I would offer that the psychological reaction of the general population will be much easier to positively manage once environmental stimulii (which cause direct and indirect physialogical and psychological response) are stabilized and immediate survival concerns are provided for in a stable physical environment, and unseen negative stimulii which are applied to the population via various electronic communications technologies and networks is effectively removed (negaitive spiritual practices must also be addressed in this way). At that point it will be much more possible for the population to accept the truth, and the reality, of what is actually happening with a much less negative reaction, if this can be done with positive support.

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BangderaSteponPutin

Good luck from removing the emotional trauma of war from 40 million people. But the memories of trauma are old. Holodomor. Stalinist purges. Soviet repressions. Putin is just opening the wounds. He’s reminding Ukrainians that what they were taught about the Russians in history class was true. And making those memories permanent. You can’t erase the memory of 40 million people. Those images of their killed country folks will forever be in their minds. And the stories are passed on from generation to generation. And also, those photos of bombed Ukrainian cities and mass graves of civilians have been seen by billions of people. They wont forget either. Give it 40-60 years for the generations to be renewed. Do you really believe that having a nice discourse on a stadium will change anything? But everything is permanently saved on the Internet. All the photos of killed Ukrainians. All the videos of destroyed cities. Mariupol. They will never forget

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Clyde

The Holodomor that never happened? 40 million Ukrainians don’t have memories of the rubbish you’re describing, they have sentiments derived from two decades of propaganda, except in Galicia, where they have 100 years of ahistorical bullshit drummed into five generations of kooks. Try something that really happened, like the ethnic cleansing murder operation conducted by the US-installed Kiev Klown Kabal in Donbas. You’re such a dipshit.

BangderaSteponPutin

Lol keep saying that to yourself bud and you might even believe it.

Clyde

Bud? You are one stunned cunt.

Brian

Wow What a Long winded way to say nothing. You obviously have no grasp of the human condition, emotions, or motivations.

Your undeserved superiority complex, based on your wall of participation ribbons, and evenings spent pleasuring yourself, must not be serving you well socially lol

BangderaSteponPutin

Nice analysis.

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Barry

“What a Long winded way to say nothing.” – then continue by puking utterly worthless, pretensions gay pile of excrement in a vain attempt to prove how you are -not- a complete and utter loser bullied by everyone in school and raped by your uncle.

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