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U.S. May Provide Turkey With Patriot System For Use In Syria’s Idlib: Turkish Defense Minister

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U.S. May Provide Turkey With Patriot System For Use In Syria’s Idlib: Turkish Defense Minister

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The U.S. could send Patriot long-range air-defense system to Turkey to use for security in the face of the conflict in Syria’s Idlib, Turkish Defense Minister, Hulusi Akar, said on February 20.

In an interview with CNN Turk, Akar revealed that talks with U.S. on a possible purchase of Patriot systems are still ongoing.

“There is the threat of air strikes, missiles against our country … There could be Patriot support,” the Daily Sabah quoted the defense minister as saying.

Akar’s statement came a few hours after the death of two Turkish service members in an alleged Syrian airstrike that targeted their position in southern Idlib.

According to the Turkish defense minister, Turkey is now in talks with Russia over the possible use of the airspace over Syria’s Idlib. Akar stressed that his country is not seeking a confrontation with Russian forces in Syria, warning that Turkey’s S-400 system will be activated if needed.

The Turkish military is now attempting to push the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) back in Idlib. Earlier today, a Turkish-led attack targeted army positions in southern Idlib. However, the attack was quickly repelled with support from Russian forces.

Akar’s remarks indicate that Turkey is still determined to escalate the situation in Idlib. While Ankara apparently believe that this could be done without a confrontation with Russia, the Russian support for the SAA says the opposite.

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  • Hanny Benny

    he thinks really he can use the S400 against Russia ?!?
    oh man.. please crawl back to your cave and learn reading..

    • Zionism = EVIL

      Believe me the S-400 will NOT WORK as they have frequency kill switches and their IFF can be fucked up big time. The Turkeys paid $2 billion for a home goal.

      • Hanny Benny

        everybody who has a basic understanding of technology knows that is impossible to be sure if a chipped input-device has a backdoor-exploit or not. I think the people around the genius sultan are not really studied in technology aspects… so funny dumb

  • Hishamsbr

    The Russians have the backdoor kill switches to the S 400’s.

    • Wegan

      They don’t. But they might make an exception for an unreliable client that can turn the weapons against them.

    • swedish_viking

      That is very likely just as Iraq air-defense got turned of during Iraq invasion.

  • Jim Bim

    First the Turks deny it, now they brag about it. Turks are useless and liers.

    • Zionism = EVIL

      Why are people surprised, the rotten Turkeys are part and parcel of Zionist and NATO cannon fodder, however, they the SAA has given them a bloody nose and beaten back every offensive with heavy losses. The Patriots are proven junk and have never worked since they could not even intercept a single SCUD-B fired by Saddam.

  • Pál Póli

    The Syrians in no time will receive the coveted S-400’s.

    • EveryoneIsBiased

      As the Syrian S300 is under final Russian control according to all reports, this would not change much.
      Russia has already their S400 in place in Syria it seems.
      S400 for Syria would only be a PR win. It would not be used against Isreal like S300 as Russia has final control over the integrated air defense systems.

      And against Turks, the Syrian S300 and Russian S400 would be already in place.
      Much more important is the decision on the highest political level in Russia, if those systems will be allowed to shoot down Turkish airforce if they enter Syrian airspace.
      And it seems, Russia has already made clear to Turkey that they will not be allowed to enter Syrian airspace. And that descicion is what is the descive factor.

      • Pál Póli

        But this is a window of opportunity for Syria to get the S400 which would be useful in the future if not now.

      • Bellerophon

        Iran should be trying to get the S-300/400 installed in Lebanon. It is from Lebanon that Israel launches its bombs.

  • Smith Ricky

    S400, inoperable 😅

    • Tim Williams

      Russia has not fully trained the TURKS on them yet … leverage

      • FlorianGeyer

        Monkeys take longer to train :)

  • Wolfgang Wolf

    turkish S-400 are not operational … i dont know what kind of shit the turkish carpetriders are smoking if they really believe the russians will NOT deactivate it in case the kebabs will try to turn the systems on…. seems that this turkish “defense” clown will be removed from his position soon…..

    • Tim Williams

      Russia is using leverage … they have not fully trained the TURKS on how to operate them … they are nothing but paperweights

      • jm74

        Nor have the Russians completed the deliveries. Turkey bought the S400 on Russian credit which does give Putin another advantage.

  • occupybacon

    “warning that Turkey’s S-400 system will be activated if needed”

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/03aa880d90816da2410e01d5f667b02718198db70d4c73684ba620369d63e702.png

  • Sephiroth

    The main problems for Russia regarding syria are geography and lack of allies in the region. It has to cross turkey or iraq for the deployment. Turkey knows this and that’s why they are bullying around.

    • Tim Williams

      somehow you forget HEZ forces, IRAQ forces, Iranian forces, KURD forces

    • AM Hants

      So how did that work out when the corvette were having fun in the Caspian? They had no problems reaching their target, now did they?

      • Sephiroth

        Firing couple of missiles from the ships won’t work. They are expensive. You need air and land access in an open war.

        • AM Hants

          Who has the largest land military and a decent missile defence system.

          • Sephiroth

            I know, but my whole point was based on the deployment issue.

    • ruca

      Lack of allies in the region? 🤔

      • Sephiroth

        You don’t think so?

  • ifke

    Little Erdo picked a fight and then came crying to older brother! Like Monthy Python!

    • Zionism = EVIL

      Turkey is following its Jew masters playbook, start a war and then hide behind Americunts and NATO sugar daddy.

  • swedish_viking

    The USA doesn’t want to sell Turkey Patriot and now they think the USA will lend them one to use against another country that got support from Russia.
    Turkeys S-400 won’t be fully operational until April.
    Sounds like they wish that they would get that support not like it’s a real option.

    • Tim Williams

      S 400 is awaiting Russian trainers … they are not coming

    • Wayne Nicholson

      They could try calling 1-800-fix-my-missile but I fear that would only get them Joe from Bangalore

    • FlorianGeyer

      If a US crew was found to be training the Turks with Patriots in a real combat environment with Russia as the target, it would certainly be the prelude for WW3, in my opinion.

      • swedish_viking

        It would come down to gain and risk.
        They wouldn’t gain anything important but risk an escalation with Russia so it wouldn’t happen.

        • FlorianGeyer

          Yank military and politicians are not renown for much forethought though. :)

  • Redadmiral

    Hot off the AMN News Desk:
    As Turkey has supported a militant attack in Syria, it has violated the agreement with Russia on separating armed opposition from terrorists in the crisis-torn country, and this move may provoke a further escalation in Idlib, the Russian Foreign Ministry’s spokeswoman, Maria Zakharova, said Thursday.

    “We are expressing significant concerns over such support for militants from the Turkish armed forces”, Zakharova said. According to the spokeswoman, the incident is seen as a “violation of the Russian-Turkish agreements on separating armed opposition from terrorists, and creating a demilitarized area, and it may provoke a further escalation in the conflict in this part of the Syrian national territory”.

    • FlorianGeyer

      In other words, Turkey is excluded from Syria.

  • Wayne Nicholson

    Does the USA really love the Turks enough to expose the patriot missile system to the Russians? Do the Russians still have that Iskander missile system in Syria they were testing awhile back …. it would be a shame to risk an aircraft taking out a SAM after all.

    • Ricky Miller

      They do. The Russian force in Syria has five Iskander launchers in Syria, at least that is known about. With two missiles in each launcher and at least ten missiles for reload, twenty Iskander Missiles could take down Turkey’s S-400 system and or Patriot batteries, if they’re offered. But I doubt Russia does it that way. They should probably save those for value later and remove threatening SAM systems by way of a KH-101 cruise missile strike. The Kh-101’s are difficult to track on radar and could strike the systems Turkey puts in place with a stealth launch from the coastline beyond Sochi. The missiles would have to fly low, at night across Anatolia but they’d put an end to the SAM threat in Idlib, for sure.

  • northerntruthseeker .

    Seriously??? I sure hope that readers have studied up on the sorry history of the “Patriot” missile system and how it was such a DUD in Gulf War I…. The Patriots are so vastly inferior to Russian made systems!

    • Bellerophon

      The Patriot Missile system is now going on 30 years old. Kind of like Ukraine using Buks.

  • Tim Williams

    LOL .. USA would never allow this to be placed in Idlib … this is preposterous

  • Peter Jennings

    The very fact that Russian forces are helping the SAA to repel terrorists attacks should tell Mr Akar Akbar all he needs to know regarding the outcome of talks for air space over Syria. It looks like Mr Akar will be disappointed. I would also guess that the S-400 threat works both ways.

    Maybe it needs better Turkish minds working on the problem. Minds which don’t have a hearing defect.

    • Bellerophon

      I was a recently guest in the radar station that tracked the Russian S-24 they shot down. Good fellas, doing their jobs. The nutso element is Erdogan, not the Turkish Army. I regret the loss of life to the two pilots killed by Turkish barbarians, I mean the militants they support. Turkish Army is professional, conduct themselves according to rules. The order to shoot down the Russian fighter clearly came from the very top.

  • Joe Doe

    The main point is, How Putin was such fool to sale S-400 to Turkey. This only shows Putin has very poor judgment. Erdogan outmaneuver Putin.

    • Tim Williams

      you pay 100% for a vehicle up front with no engine or transmission .. TURKEY S 400 is still awaiting computers and training … PUTIN got his money …Erdogan has a giant paper weight

      • ruca

        Careful TW, JD is an expert 😂

        • JIMI JAMES

          Yes nato expert but of course anything wiser judgment for brusselsprouts!

  • Alec White

    What’s the point of it? if Turks shoot down Russian plane once more, the Russians will pulverize all Turkish outposts in Syria with cruise missiles from 1000 miles away. Erdogan needs to pull back, otherwise he’ll be defeated, and then CIA will take him down for good.

  • LaRata

    S-400 to the Turk was a big mistake by Putin … Georgian SA-11 shot down to many Russ combat planes including one TU-23MR …

    • Tim Williams

      it doesn’t work … PUTIN Got the dough … TURKS have a giant paper weight

    • Pantagruel

      Not a problem. Putin could sell S-400 to Turkey, after developing his own weapon that can neutralize it, if necessary (Kh-47M2 Kinzhal):

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh-47M2_Kinzhal

    • JIMI JAMES

      Those stories mainly deep fake lies,I read the transcripts didn’t add up,that tu23mr did not its engine failed then the other before it landed safe on the base? hit by missile? bullfgnciasht!

  • LR captain

    yeah cause the patriot system working well against the houthis retro rockets. Hell look at the launchers one small artillery shell and whole system is shell. as the launch tubes would be bent.

  • RichardD

    The Turks are talking out of both sides of their mouth and violating their own Idlib DMZ agreement. They complain about the humanitarian problem in Idlib that’s of their own creation from years of supporting terrorists. Their threats against the Syrian government coalition are like an arsonist threatening to attack the fire department putting out the fire that the arsonist started and is fueling.

    The Idlib DMZ agreement called for heavy weapons to be removed from the DMZ. The Turks are providing their terrorists heavy weapons for use in the DMZ. The Turks and their terrorists have violated every part of the DMZ agreement that the Turks agreed to.

    • Tim Williams

      now you describe the average TURK … A BACKSTABBING LIAR that can never be trusted

      • FlorianGeyer

        Its funny that middle aged Turks and Khazars often have the same brutal neanderthal features :)

      • RichardD

        I think that a lot of Turks aren’t happy with their government’s actions in southern Idlib. For the Adana agreement border issues with the Kurds they’re probably supportive or at least willing to give the government the benefit of the doubt. For the terror war that Turkey has been waging for years in Idlib for Israel. I’d be surprised if many or most Turks support it. And for those that have supported it. That may wane if the Turks escalate it and start spending a lot of money and taking a lot of losses. Particular if it starts spilling over into Turkey.

    • FlorianGeyer

      Correct.

    • ruca

      Sounds like Ukraine too.

    • Josiah Isaboke

      I don’t know if you have ever watched those videos of the jihadis when they are around the Turkish soldiers. They are the ones in charge. The Turks are subordinates.The command the Tanks on where to go and where to shoot as they scream “Allahu backbar”..The Turkish soldiers are scared çh1t/less of those dudes and they can’t say a word or they might get beheaded right there.

      • RichardD

        People follow their paychecks, and the Turks are paying the terrorists, or allowing them to be paid through Turkey.

  • CarloS
    • Zionism = EVIL

      This comment should be taken to the nearest Jew and deposited for future reference:

      The Americunts and Turkeys are playing with fire in Syria. If they continue on the current trajectory of pushing Russian and Iranian buttons, the US is poised to suffer its greatest defeat in living memory – a much harsher setback than Vietnam and Afghanistan combined, both in strategic and psychological terms.

      To subvert the senile evil Jew scum Kissinger’s maxim, the choice confronting US leaders and
      strategists is whether they want to keep up the pretence of superpower status for a couple of decades longer, or risk getting an almighty bloody nose from Russia, Iran and their allies.

  • The Russian need to cover the whole turkey airspace with they S-400 system, eliminated the concept that Ankara believes is fighter jets could take off without being shit down. I would’ve deployed three battalion of S-400 and midrange air defence Asap

    • ruca

      That would be a violation of international law, and just stupid.

      • Me&Myself None

        Turkey being in Syria is a violation of international law.

        • Bellerophon

          Russia is apparently the only remaining country that acknowledges international law. That would make it rather non-international.

  • ian

    Turkish snakes.

  • RichardD

    “the Turkish government issued a request to the US for Patriot anti-air missiles to help defend Idlib air space from the Russian Air Force. It is highly unlikely that such a request would be granted.”

    – Turkish-backed militant attack in Idlib was doomed to fail –

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/481307-turkey-idlib-russia-terrorists/

    “Turkey is yet to receive a U.S. response to the request, which was relayed last week to James Jeffrey, the U.S. envoy for Syria engagement, the official said, asking not to be identified discussing sensitive information. The U.S. Embassy in Turkey declined to comment. Spokespeople for the White House and U.S. National Security Council didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment. …

    While Turkey is requesting the deployment of U.S.-operated Patriots, the two countries have wrangled for years over Turkish requests to buy the missiles. The Trump administration has refused to agree to a deal unless Turkey first scraps advanced Russian S-400 missile-defense system it bought last year that Washington considers a threat to NATO’s capabilities.”

    – Turkey Seeks U.S. Patriot Missiles to Deter Russia in Syria –

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-20/turkey-asks-u-s-for-patriot-missiles-to-deter-russia-in-idlib?utm_source=google&utm_medium=bd&cmpId=google

  • RichardD

    “the Nayrab battle appears to represent the manifestation of Erdogan’s threat, the initial battle of a larger campaign designed to punish the Syrian Army and its Russian allies.

    There is one problem in such a scenario – the Russian Air Force. Russia has made it clear that it will not permit Turkey to launch air operations in Idlib. Moreover, the fact that the Russian Air Force was employed immediately to attack and defeat the Turkish/HTS offensive shows that Moscow has not ceded its control of Syrian air space. So long as Russian aircraft are operating in Idlib, no offensive action against the Syrian Army stands a chance of succeeding.”

    – Turkish-backed militant attack in Idlib was doomed to fail –

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/481307-turkey-idlib-russia-terrorists/

  • AM Hants

    Worked well defending Saudi oil fields? Interesting, if Turkey believes it Will be useful, with S-300 and S-400 smiling at it.

  • Jake321

    Turkey and Russia at each other. Islamist Sunni and Islamist Shi’a killing each other. Israel bombing with impunity. It’s a nice day in the neighborhood…

  • Tudor Miron

    Wishful thinking or are they trying to scare someone?

    • Tim Williams

      wishful thinking

      • Tudor Miron

        I think it is both and it shows Erdo’s stupidity. He’s way over his depth in this one.

    • Kananda

      your country failed.
      again.

  • MakinaKafa

    Washington wants to break the relations between Ankara and Moscow..The current situation in the region only serves to the benefit of the US and Israel..The US is two-faced, and can not be trusted..The Turkish Army should not be the protector of Muslim Brotherhood remnants and other radical militants..The primary reason of Turkey being in Syria must be the destruction of the separatist, terrorist PKK/YPG.

    The current situation in the region is mostly the result of President Erdoğan’s personal ambitions..That’s why he can not act like a statesman and shake hands with President Assad again..But at the same time, he doesn’t mind meeting with the Zionist lobbies during his last visit to the US.

    Idlib is Syrian territory, and Syrian Army can not be blamed for trying to liberate own territory..And because of this, Turkish soldiers are dying for nothing..The only way to resolve the Idlib crisis is direct communication between Damascus and Ankara..Co-operation between Turkey, Syria, and Russia will end terrorism and American/Israeli plans in the region.

  • seawolf

    Oh boy things are getting serious!

  • Dick Von Dast’Ard

    Kh-31AD or Kh-31PK/PD would obviously be the weapon of choice in such circumstances for the VKS.
    Air-Launched Guided Missile Kh-31PK
    http://www.eng.ktrv.ru/production/military_production/anti-radar_missiles/kh-31pk.html
    Airborne High Speed Anti-Radar Missile Kh-31PD
    http://www.eng.ktrv.ru/production/military_production/anti-radar_missiles/kh-31pd.html
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f26mNXTHWDM

  • wwinsti

    This would not come in time any without US personell running the equipment. US crews would have to shoot down Russian planes directly for it to be effective.

  • Me&Myself None

    The Patriot did so well against Iran’s missile attack against the US base in Irak, not forgetting its outstanding performance 🤣🤣 defending the Houtis last attack against the Saudi’s oil installation.

    • Zionism = EVIL

      or against Saddam’s WW2 vintage SCUD-B :)

    • goingbrokes

      Lol!

  • Friend of Russia

    His statements are laughable. Patriots don’t know even where to look at for targets.

  • Harold Smith

    Putin was such a fool to sell S-400 air defense systems to Turkey. And Putin is a fool to sell S-400 air defense systems to Saudi Arabia.

    • Kananda

      putin is really fool and not stateman, not chessplayer. he was noname little armchair officer in kgb. nothing else. such guy automatically is not able to reform one country. he is soldier, able to keep and give orders. taht´s all. therefore he was able to make better the russian army. and at this point finished his abilities.

      • Harold Smith

        Yep; he’s made many “mistakes”; e.g. he should’ve armed Syria a long time ago, as it was clear what the plan was for the Mideast. I believe that if he’d acted more proactively and decisively in the past, the barbarians would not now be at the gates. He’s Yeltsin’s hand-picked replacement and it shows.

        • JIMI JAMES

          Too bad you phaedo glory incest spwan wannabe neo-liberals facists are being found out for the low iq and kiddle blood drinketh allies you foster incest,yes!
          Get Thee Behind Me,satan:

          • Harold Smith

            Hey Shlomo, you’re supposed to be looking at your monitor, not your mirror, as you type your infantile jew drivel.

          • Harold Smith

            You’re supposed to be looking at your monitor, not your mirror, as you type your infantile jew drivel, goofball.

          • Harold Smith

            You’re supposed to be looking at your monitor, not your mirror, as you type your infantile drivel. Better run along now and get back to your Talmudic studies before your mommy finds out you’re at the computer again.

      • JIMI JAMES

        Truth suggests you don’t know sht,in the end results are what matters,crimea looks tops!

    • JIMI JAMES

      Yes putin is a fool of gods,but he’s still leaps and bounds more intelligent than you tryhards!

      • Harold Smith

        Coming from you Satanic judenfilth, I’ll take that as a compliment; thanks, Shlomo.

      • Harold Smith

        Coming from you Satanic judenfilth, I’ll take that as a compliment; thanks, Shlomo.

  • Luke Hemmming

    All cards are off the table now! Open slather on Turkish forces.

  • Xanatos

    It is very likely turkey plans on deploying the patriot missile batteries inside idlib, Syria.

    • Willing Conscience (The Truths

      With only a 70 km range they’d have to, and they’d need a lot of them to cover all of Idlib.

  • Xoli Xoli

    Turkey soldiers kills Syrian soldiers but dont want to be killed very funny. USA does not want to sell Patriot messiles systems to Erdogan out of embarrassment. But if USA sell it indeed to Turkey that will be for money making.Israel tested this patriot systems in Aramco Saudi Arabia oilfields and prove to the whole world that it is useless and shift the blame to Iran.

  • Xoli Xoli

    Erdogan From a being a gaot fucker to missile defense handle after learning English.

    • Mustafa Mehmet

      Erdoğan fucking your mama re oli oli

      • Xoli Xoli

        Both me and Erdogan will rape your mom without permission. Then we will make turn and put your gay as on fire.

        • usofdumbfks

          if you like raping monkeys go on

          • Xoli Xoli

            Who are you where are you coming from.

    • Jake321

      Learning English is something you need to work on.

      • Xoli Xoli

        English is just like whore.It used be imposed on every tribe and countries all over the world by the British imperialist.Just like you who are brain dead by Satanyahu propaganda.

        • Jake321

          Touchy, touchy. You were the one to bring up learning English not I. And I kind of like the idea that I was lucky enough to have my native language be the international language of choice. Not to mention lucky enough to be born in the US, also the country of choice for most people in the world who would like a better life for themselves and their families. Or so the stats indicate. Pick a country, any country, and see how many from there move here compared to how many from here move there.

          • Xoli Xoli

            My refugee Jake.You always keep me positive.

          • Jake321

            I’m glad you’re positive. And wherever you’re from, way more folk who can move here from there stay here than those here already move back to where they came from or any other place as well. Who knows? That might change if Trump gets really-elected.

          • Xoli Xoli

            Jake you are right but we can’t promote tourism of travelling. There is coronavirus spreading like lightning.

  • Vitex

    Apparently not so good against MLRS, if the Houthis are any sort of authority

  • JIMI JAMES

    Military profits are not worth it,the game has changed they lose effect,her on in nations opt to secure their national defense mechanism and economys,patriots are outdated as is their complex disorders!
    Say by us hegemon,can’t say anyone in the world will miss the creeps,here on in may the best deal win!

    • Zionism = EVIL

      Erdogan is pimp and is using the Zionist template of hiding behind the Americunts and NATO in the hope of broadening this needless Syrian conflict. The Americunt are dumbasses who may end up in the worst nightmare so, considering regional demographics, logistics and supply lines. Even the shipping distance from Russian Crimea to Syria is less than 2,000 kms.

    • Harold Smith

      “Military profits” has nothing to to do with it, knucklehead. (BTW junior, maybe you can find a sympathetic adult in your neighborhood who can help you to construct a meaningful sentence).

  • John

    Then what are they doing in a foreign country.will they accept syrians to enter even an inch into their territory

  • John

    Then what are they doing in a foreign country.will they accept syrians to enter even an inch into their territory

  • Johan

    We America and Europe are prostitutes, Erdogan betrays, fysicaly attacks Europe, he cheats, steals, invades Cyprus, sends hordes of terrorists, kills ore friends and brothers in arms, blackmails etc … he is the personalisation of an evil dictator international and national, he has NO friends. And now we should support his imperialistic aggression, his occupation of an other country? Not with the support of democratic people Trump-Erdo.

  • Johan

    By now Putin knows Erdogan is no more as an unreliable, irratic, whore who does EVERYTHING for the money with EVERYBODY. But now she/he got rejected because nobody wants him anymore. Everybody, national and international, knows she/he must be replaced, fast! Hope that his friend Trump is kept on the leash.

  • Squeeth

    Call that a threat? I’ve had worse off me mother.