Turkish President Voices Concerns About Expected Operation Against Militants In Syria’s Idlib

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Turkish President Voices Concerns About Expected Operation Against Militants In Syria's Idlib

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On July 14, Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan voiced concerns over an expected military operation of the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) against militants in the Syrian province of Idlib during a phone call with Russian President Vladimir Putin, a Turkish presidential source said, according to Reuters.

The phone call took place after the SAA had liberated the city of Daraa and multiple nearby points from militants in southern Syria.

“President Erdogan stressed that the targeting of civilians in Deraa was worrying and said that if the Damascus regime targeted Idlib in the same way the essence of the Astana accord could be completely destroyed,” Reuters quoted the source.

It’s intersting to note that despite a formal participation of the Astana talks format alongside with Iran and Russia, Ankara is not hurrying up to combat radical armed groups, mostly Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (formerly Jabhat al-Nusra, the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda), in the province of Idlib.

On the same time, the Kremlin released own statement on the recent phone call.

“Pressing regional and international issues have been discussed. Particular attention was paid to joint steps aimed at solving the crisis in Syria on the basis of corresponding resolutions of the United Nations Security Council and the agreements reached within the Astana format,” the statement said. “[They] agreed to stay in contact.”

“Both sides underscored mutual aspirations to promote cooperation in diverse fields.”

In comparison to the claims of the Turkish presidential source, this statement includes nothing intersting. It could be expected that if the SAA starts making real efforts to combat Hayat Tahrir al-Sham in Idlib province, Turkey will not be happy to see it.

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  • paul ( original )

    As far as Russia is concerned the Turks are about as trust worthy as the Greeks; in fact less so.

    • ruca

      An original fact Paul. The Greek government even betrayed their people after a referendum. Absolutely disgusting.

      • Promitheas Apollonious

        and still does. But soon things will change in a very violent way as people is so much they can take and not react. But for that we have the traitors put there by soros and gang and the fact that greeks seem to be in a coma.

      • paul ( original )

        Yes I knew this. It was a complete about face.

    • Promitheas Apollonious

      I think the greek politicians, are worst than the torks as it stands now, much it pains me to say it.

    • Mustafa Mehmet

      come on now no one can bit Greek. that’s whyRussia doing busines with turkey

  • Spit

    He is not worried. Turkey has found itself in a Golden geopolitical situation. Turkey controls movement of the black sea, half of the Ural mountains, F-35’s S-400 technology transfer and in a position to take the 2nd Holy city.
    He is either buying time or Erdagon is planning to Bargain with Russia for the FSA controlled terretory.
    Clearly He understands Russians are exposing a weakness, But So is Turkey. Bargain Erdagon. This will bring fruit, but Erdegon. The Russians will remember a bitter taste.
    Is it wise for Erdegon to play petty games?
    Maybe Putin would be wise to Look the other way and Invite America into Turkey and Bargain with the Turks from a Moral High Ground?

  • Melotte 22

    Liberation of Idlib from filthy Jihadi scum supported by Turkey, is planned for September.
    There is absolutely nothing Erdogan can do to prevent it.

  • JEinCA

    This snake in Ankara should have only one concern regarding Syria’s campaign to liberate it’s own territories from the Takfiri Horde (who most likely entered Syria via Turkey) and that is for him to keep his mouth shut.

  • PZIVJ

    Erdogan does not seem to controlling HTS trash very well.
    Are the Jihadist just a buffer zone in N Syria?

  • David BlackBeard

    My reactionair is like : “Oh My God , this is sooooo unexpectedly tORKS defending terrorist , this is fucking unbeliveble terrorist state defendig international terroriste in other country “ lol

    • Mustafa Mehmet

      fucking idiot think before you comment. because of civilian refugees they gone start moving toward turkey again we. got enough refugees. they have to find peaceful solution.

      • PZIVJ

        Turkey supported the Jihadist trash in the first place
        So return to sender? :D.

        • Mustafa Mehmet

          don’t push ur luck . No Iranian or hezbollah can help Assad turkey will destroy Syria. do not forget Russia or any country will come and fight for you for nothing

          • PZIVJ

            “turkey will destroy Syria”
            I think you just made the point, why there are so many civ refugees in Turkey. You are warmonger !

          • Lupus

            Hatay should be liberated from Turks 2

          • Mustafa Mehmet

            this gives us excuse to go all the way up to syrian capital

          • Promitheas Apollonious

            farting as you do and doing is not one and the same thing donkeyson. Try not to stink the place, before you leave.

          • ruca

            Remember what Katherine the Great did to the Ottoman empire?

          • Rob

            The source is the Reuters CIA. Israel cheating with all.

          • Promitheas Apollonious

            again you repeating yourself dork. It doesn’t matter, who the messenger is as long what it says is true and a fact.

          • Rob

            OK can you share the source from Erdogan official website.

          • Promitheas Apollonious

            you proving with every post you make, what a brainless poster, you are. Why will I want to share a link of a donkeyson? Or waste any of my time going there brainwashed broken record?

          • M.kad

            i am also Turk but i do not suppodrt erdogans syria politics. why should we destroy syria?!
            go destroy israel if you can.
            think.
            who was the best friend of Esad in 2006?
            why erdoğan changed his mind about Esad? because of humanity.. 😂😂
            USA suppords pyd,
            keeps FETO, makes coup and has killed far more moslems in world and still erdogan see USA and his allies as strategic partners and Esad as Evil!!!😂😂😂😂
            his strategic partners want to kill him.

          • Tudor Miron

            Very well said.

          • How can they destroy the nation that together they have planned what happened ie Navi Marmara?

          • M.kad

            that all is a show and people in Germany, greece, turkey or somewhere else believe in that shit.
            greece is not in a better situation then Turkey. you became the slaves of Eu finance kapitalisim.

          • ruca

            Thank you Mkad.

          • Promitheas Apollonious

            stop jerking off donkeyson.

          • Concrete Mike

            Turkey tried ti destroy syria, but failed, even with the helpnof europe, america, israel and gcc, basically with boatloads of money, yet you still failed.

            Yugoslavia 2.0 coming your way sôon.

      • David BlackBeard

        Haha lol fuckturk… I do think before I say , but u ar clearly stupid , selfish tork .. u want a peacful solution ? Why do turk supported anti goverment protest from DAY 1 ?
        Why do fucking torks shoot rassian plain down , that was killing terrorist?
        Why were torks buying from ISis oil ?
        Your cunt country is terrorist supporting heaven .
        By Astana agrement torks must clean Idlib from HTS terrorist , well I dont see torks fighting HTS terrorist , because HTs gets money and suplies and medical care in torkland and from torks… fucktord , get the fuck out of here.

        • Mustafa Mehmet

          brainless little puppy.your little brain 🧠 fuck t up losers

          • David BlackBeard

            Wel goatfuckingtork , In my previous comment I did insult you , torks and your pork country , but in other part of my previous comment I wrote few known facts . Your reaction to my comment was only insult , it is showing clearly that u porkfucktork have nothing to say if you here real fact and just go with insults. That is why you and you nation is a cancer of the world , toilet of the world … backstabbing whore nation by blood

          • Mustafa Mehmet

            you r 💩. head Greek or Armenian

          • David BlackBeard

            Hahaha like I said dead stupid tork, only insults no facts … but we all allready knew that ))) read my previous comments Son of pork , u Will learn a lot

          • First let s start with a little bit of history dear esek
            1. You are not a nation you are a mixture of races plus the fact that as ”turks” you are not more than 10m
            http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?historyid=aa98

            2 . Then lets talk about genocides you moron
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Turkey

            3. Some further facts 4u like it or not
            There were also widespread reports of Turkish officials, including Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s son-in-law, were involved in the purchase of Islamic State oil through front companies — actions that undoubtedly helped fill the insurgents’ coffers and directly contribute to the group’s longevity. Nevertheless, contraband Islamic State oil was consistently sold at points along the Turkish border throughout 2014 and into 2015.Fast forward to early 2018, and there are reports that Erdogan has signaled consent for Turkish forces to enlist the help of former Islamic State fighters in Ankara’s ongoing battle against the Kurds. And according to Conflict Armament Research, an organization partly funded by the European Union that identifies and tracks conventional weapons and ammunition in contemporary armed conflicts, Turkey “is the most important choke point” for components used in the manufacture of improvised explosive devices by the Islamic State.
            https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/04/12/turkeys-double-isis-standard/

            4. So unless your puppet is not stupid enough you are going to be crashed as a nation ….Yugoslavia is a good example in what will happen to you in the near future. Of course in order to see and understand such a fact you must think outside the box …Something i haven’ seen you are able to do after i read your posts

            PS : Learn to talk with facts if you are able to think outside your brainwashed mind …

          • David BlackBeard

            man , u made same mistake as I did , u expecting from a turk to speak with facts … hahaha

          • Well i just want the rest to understand that although thinking people are the minority they do exist.
            As for facts well he is not considered a thinking person since he just bla bla bla bla bla as a well brainwashed turk trol

      • 1691

        Finding a peaceful solution is a must however protecting the terrorists is not a part of it! And David BlackBeard is not an idiot. He only stated a fact.

        • Mustafa Mehmet

          make sure we don’t get more refugees send them towards Israel

          • PZIVJ

            The hard core head choppers are being sent north to Idlib,
            Closer to Turkish border, where they came from.

          • Mustafa Mehmet

            they come from Israel to.how you gone separate terrorist and civilians now gas them to

          • PZIVJ

            Are you revering to false flag last year?
            Where HTS took hostage of civs and murdered them in N Hama.
            I think Turkish intel group helped to make this happen.

          • Mustafa Mehmet

            just go and gas your own people that’s Assad job

          • M.kad

            sorry but that is the same bull shit lies which USA created like in Irak.
            usa, france , UK and isarel have more moslem blood in their hands as Esad.
            so who are you telling here that is Esad is devil and USAand their allies ( also the idiot Erdogan) are peacemakers!!!
            and still idiot Erdogan says Esad is Evil and usa (read it as israel) are his strategic allies.
            who gives weaponds to pyd?
            who is behind the coup
            where is FETO living?
            what do you need more to wake up??

          • Promitheas Apollonious

            BRAINS. donkeysons dont have any.

          • Concrete Mike

            Man that was super weak point. You know damn well Syria gave up its Entire chemical weapon arsenal.

            Stop lying please

          • Promitheas Apollonious

            brainwashed single cells can only repeat their programming. So dont ask for miracles they dont happen.

          • 1691

            YES! Absolutely!

          • ruca

            Why was there a refugee crisis in the first place? You won’t admit the source of the problem. Actions have consequences.

          • Tudor Miron

            As you can see in Daraa and Ghouta before that – when Syrian army is liberating it’s lands this ultimately leads to less refugees not more.

          • Merijn

            Turkey can Shoot them when they want to cross the Border… License to Kill…the more the better…it is Headchopping Vermin… Jordan did not want them back & closed the Borders.. SAA could finish them off…

      • Promitheas Apollonious

        r u thinking before you talk donkeyson? You created them, stick them up where the sun dont shine.

      • ruca

        Your most “trustworthy” leader and his son were controlling the stolen oil trade and allowing terrorists across their boarders. Turkey will pay eventually.

        • Mustafa Mehmet

          who’s gone. do that?

          • ruca

            Please try to keep it coherent.

      • S Melanson

        If Erdogan wanted to contain the refugee problem in Turkey, perhaps he should not have made oil deals with ISIS as this made the situation worse. But it seems priority was placed on enrichment of family members over Turkish security.

        Astana gave Erdogan a chance to make a positive contribution to reduce violence and anarchy in northern Turkey. But Erdogan’s actions suggest territorial ambitions take priority, even if it means once again making deals with terrorists – which are fighting among themselves making the refugee situation worse.

        Finally, if it is refugees that are a concern, Erdogan should be favourably disposed to Assad given a track record of refugee return in liberated areas. Erdogan should be more concerned with US methods of liberation. Take a look at Raqqa and what refugee would want to return to that. Also the US continues to arm the YPG and no need to explain why this concerns Turkey. So if Assad intends to liberate Eastern Syria, this would be in Turkey’s interests, not to mention the investment in rebuilding that will lead to return of refugees – the US destroys and does not rebuild.

        So why is Erdogan maintaining a hostile posture with Syria?

        • Mustafa Mehmet

          Go way back to Assad father time and find out

          • S Melanson

            I know what you speak of and you have a point. But maybe now it is time to let go of the past. Hiastory has shown many examples of enemies becoming allies. Being part of NATO, you are allied with Britain and Britain was a key architect of the Sevres Treaty that promised Kurdish homeland at expense of Turkey (successor to Ottoman Empire). Fortunately, Kemal Ataturk led a successful nationalist movement against the draconian treaty with great success leading to new treaty of Lausanne.

            Assad and Turkey have aligned interests far more than conflicting interests. I think Turkey is a great country and people and I hope Erdogan’s new mandate reflects such greatness going forward.

          • Promitheas Apollonious

            i think you hope wrong, based on the facts on the ground and when SAA start cleaning Idlip, you understand it.

          • S Melanson

            I do. What I am implying is that Turkey has had good leadership in the past, particularly the founding father of secular Turkey. Erdogan can still change course, but as you say, and I agree, this is unlikely. One can always hope.

          • Promitheas Apollonious

            yes unfortunately hope and reality never walk hand in hand. From one side you have an opportunist it change like a whore, price according to the size, who play in several tables according to where the wind blows and on the other side a real patriot Assad, trying to save and free is country.

            The collision with the turks and them showing their real face is not far away now so we speak of it when is happening and the picture is not based on hope but reality, that can not be disputed with theory.

          • Mustafa Mehmet

            Thank you excellent comment .hope so everything will be gd we Neighbour

          • Hrky75

            Assad the father died 20 years ago. In the meantime Erdogan kept friendly relations with Syria in general and Bashar in particular even on personal level – vacationing together. Joining Zio-Wahhabi coalition that ganged up on Syria was a prick move by Erdogan – both on personal and geo-political level. Turkey was the most important part of the whole operation – enabling the establishment of 2nd front in Syria that almost succeeded in destroying it. And letting through most of the terrorists that joined Al Qaida and daesh as well as almost all the weapons, cash and even chemical weapons. In the end Turkey will be left with bns of USD in costs, 100Ks refugees, 10Ks ex Al Qaida terrorists with nothing to do, a reputation of a back stabber and no friends in the neighborhood. A perfect setup for the next regime change operation to be performed in Turkey itself…

          • HardHawk

            he did not join anything or any one. He just went with the ones who paid him more, unwilling to break the turks tradition of a been whores with no honor.

          • HardHawk

            or you can go back to when turkey was sucking jew c*ck and still does in many ways despite appearances.

          • Mustafa Mehmet

            that’s ur job

          • HardHawk

            Nothing to worry about turk, i am not competition on your mothers work I would not want her to lose her only income supporting you and your queer father.

          • Mustafa Mehmet

            Ottoman leftover

          • HardHawk

            yes she is but that is no excuse. turks always been the toilet, of the left overs. I think is the jew gay kemal, who name you turks (donkeys) and he hit the nail on the head there.

      • HardHawk

        time to send your donkeymom, to teach him the ottoman justice. That will teach him.

      • Rob

        Don’t complain what he comments for he does not know.

        There are lots of bullshit news. So the commenters should be smart enough to understand that who will get benefit of this hate.

      • jorge

        Mustafa, please be polite in the discussion, I don’t will warn you again.

    • Rob

      This is fake news disinformation, bullshit from Israel. Look the source is Reuters CIA. Be careful don’t give wrong comments against President Erdogan.
      +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

      • David BlackBeard

        erdogan was also so called ”friend” of Russia , u know what happend to russian su 24 ?
        if erdogan is allied with Syria , Iran and Russia it means
        1. he agrees and wants peace for Syria and restoring control of international recognised borders of Syria – so he has then hand over all territoris that turkye controls to Syrian goverment
        2.he agrees to fight terrorist – so he has to fight HTS and ISIS ( not only kurds ), like IRAN , RUSSIA , SYRIA , IRAQ , HEZBOLLA are doeing .. but he isnt doing that .
        3. if he is allied with Russia , Syria and Iran – then he must do same as Russia does .. Russians go to negotiat to make people stop fighting , it happend a lot … maybe erdogan must also start talking to proxis under his control to stop fighting against goverment and settle their legal status and work to rebuilt Syria toegether , dont u think that ?
        4. but untill today we see only 1 thing turks did , their proxis do not attack from afrin albab area goverment forces anymore .
        thats my point of view , if u think I’m wrong , pleas let me hear your arguments .

          • Rob

            I don’t care whether Syria take whole Turkey or Turkey take whole Syria but I will never ever be agreed if in the Middle East US and NATO forces secretly enter and hold hostage them as they are holding Palestinians and Syrians hostage and using their lands and resources.

          • Bob

            When the times comes for the northern SAA-RuAF offensive it will be same story as in the south – the US abandoned their proxy militants in Daara and Turkey will abandon their proxy militants in Idlib. Wait and see.

          • Us troops were never in dara only militants fool, Turkish armed forces are inside idlib

          • Bob

            And they will withdraw – either taking or abandoning their proxies.

          • jorge

            There’s no planes fascist to protect the turkish troops. they aren’t doing nothing there.

          • Feudalism Victory

            Indeed. A no country dares attack a nato country anywhere even in someone elses country.

          • jorge

            Go plant potatoes, fascist, better than die in Idlib.

          • Feudalism Victory

            This summarizes the essence of the turkish position.

            Turkey = israel. Taking territory against everyone elses wishes including the un.

            Whether or not international borders cant ever change again is correct or appropriate is a different story but every one agrees THEY shouldntt lose territory.

        • Rob

          You know after the incidence of SU-24, Erdogan ordered that who had issued order to shoot down the Russian SU-24 fighter jet. After Erdogan issued order for investigation the US attacked on Erdogan by his failed cope of his hired proxies. Then Putin quickly send team to protect Erdogan from US proxies. Erdogan clearly sent message to US that we should never trust you. You are our worst enemy.

    • Turkey is not leaving idlib :D

      • David BlackBeard

        in your moms wet dreams , idlib is yours )))

        • Rob

          Turkish Greywolves -is from Tel Aviv and is pro Netanyahu. He has different secret agenda.

          • jorge

            Turkish Greywolves are fascists.

      • Promitheas Apollonious

        no it be buried there. Idlip needs fertilizer, and we all know the best raw material for fertilizer, is turkturds.

        • Rob

          Turkish Greywolves -is from Tel Aviv and is pro Netanyahu. He has different secret agenda.

          • Promitheas Apollonious

            you mean gaywolves, dont you. I know very well who they are and where their roots come from. And have arranged for a lot of them to meet their maker, so I dont need explanations as to who they are, or where they come from.

      • Bob

        Dude are you yet another Israeli doing this fake-Muslim pro-militant comment charade?

  • Пламень За Свободу

    Another russo turk conflict brewing?

    • 1691

      The Russians will sort him out. Let him bark. It is not the first time he exposes his bipolar disorder.

  • Olayinka Abdulgafar

    The Sultan has started waking up to the reality about the limit of his delusional power. If the combined effort of US/ZIO/SAUD-WAHABBI cannot impose their will in Syria, what makes Edorgan ”the hypocrite” think he can?
    The reality on ground in Syria would tell any rational player that it’s time to sit around the table, talk things out and act according to the agreed terms. Alas the neo-imperialist still live in the lala-land.

    • Promitheas Apollonious

      is the drugs talking within, him. The dork is hallucinating.

  • James

    So what did he expect? Free reign in a country that isn’t his? I thought he would be more concerned at the Kurds to the east.

  • M.kad

    the best for turkey is to use those terorist in idlip to fight against pyd.
    in this way turkey would get ride of two shit

    • Promitheas Apollonious

      and whose going to get rid of, the turds after? torks have no business been in syria let alone make policy on it.

      • potcracker2588

        sweet question….i´ve been asking this question from day 1……..folks tend to think that russia can make them or have already a deal with them to leave once no SDF territories are left…..I very much doubt it…….first reason is that turkey today due to the policies of the AKP is an islamist country through and through.Turkeys AKP is brothers with ISIS and all others that share this extreme view of islam hence islamists.I mentioned a while ago how a big turkish newspaper(which was closed down by the AKP and their reporters were thrown in jail for Terrorism charges) published the written transcipts of numerous phone conversations between ISIS commanders and HTP commanders and turkish intelligence.They all referred to each other as brother.Erdogan has put himself in a corner boxed in right now.And the most dangerous is his all out partnership with various islamist groups.Just look at idlib and the so called bullshit deescalation agreement with russia.What a bs agreement.Broken from day 1 by turkey.and continuing beeing broken as seen in latakia with an illegal “oberservation post” of turkey, since it was created the islamists have stepped up attacks against SAA resulting in the death of dozens of SAA soldiers.Same in idlib.Oberservation post created, and soon there after, the attacks against SAA are beiing stepped.
        From day 1 I wrote about the huge mistake(unless ofcourse on purpose) by russia in allowing turkey to invade syria.Ofcourse (for the sake of the matter…russia has good intentions for syria and the current governmnet) I understand the russian point of view.The usa is arming the kurds, SDF, choping away piece by piece of syrian land, we russia do not want WW3 so we gotta find a way for someone else to attack the SDF.And in first glance turkey looks great for this.But at second look, this picture brings with it alot of dangerous consequences.The first beiing that turkey is a nato country with all the dangerous consequences that could occur if turkey changes its mind and decides to not play ball.What if???
        What if turkey says fuck off to russia for leaving syria??
        What if the USA with its satanic jew commandos make a deal with turkey on syria???
        I sure hope I´m wrong and putin has erdogan by the balls and that erdogan HAS to play ball.Would be better for syria, for turkey and for the whole of th middle east.ONLY, I trust my satanic jew assholes, that they will do everything possible to see that no peace will happen in the middle east.Because its the wars all around israel, that make the genocide of the palestinians nearly invisible for the outside world and it weakens its arab neighbors.They never prooved me wrong to this day.

        • Promitheas Apollonious

          I dont think turkey ever left the coalition of west and the jews. As this war in syria is coming to a cross road the picture will clear in an undeniable way as top who is who and what it stands for.

          Also I dont think russia or any one has turkey by the balls. Soonest turks back stub her current alleged allies, (russia) they get the benefits form UK/Usrael promised to them from becoming the trojan horse in ME.

          Watch and learn.

      • M.kad

        turkey should also leave Syria. Erdogan did many bad things in syria. as a human and turk i am ashamed of that.

        • Promitheas Apollonious

          Every one who dont belong to a country is in, must leave that country, unless he is invited in and I am not talking only of Syria.

          You should not be ashamed by the way. In all countries there are bad people and good family people who care only to feed and raise their families in peace. If you are in the second category then you are a victim of the times we live in, no matter what nationality you are.

          Walk in peace.

  • SnowCatzor

    No one cares what Turkish Hitler thinks about Syria, he was never asked to intervene by anyone. The idea that he’s concerned about civilian casualties is laughable, just crocodile tears from a heartless dictator.

  • Ronald

    “Erdogan stressed that the targeting of civilians in Daara was worrying”, yet there was hardly any “targeting” of any sort as the FSA mostly surrendered in reconciliation agreements.
    Sounds like Erdogan thought his troops were going to become a permanent fixture on Syrian soil.
    I can just hear the claims of “barrel bombs” and “chemical attacks”, rolling on Reuters Press.

  • Merijn

    Wasn’t Idlib the International Headchopper Meeting & Concentration Centre? With all those Free-Ride One-Way-Ticket Fancy Coloured Buses… To Flock them together & Completely Destroy them….The Final Resting Place for Retired Psychopathic Western Headchopping Mercenaries with Terminal PTSD… Ready for Euthenization… to put them out of their Misery… I thought that was Idlib…

  • leon mc pilibin

    Whats this Sultan Lunatic smoking??Concerned about terrorists getting their asses kicked out of Syria??Who does he think he is ,,NUTANDYAHOOO???

  • Smith Ricky

    Cry Edroscum.

  • Smaug

    It may not seem like much, but this might have bee enough to stop any major attack on Idlib permanently. Turkey would rather have a small dependent neighbor (in effect a satellite state) than a larger rival. So they will use everything in their power to protect Idlib without going to war with a superpower.

  • jorge

    Erdo, as Bibi, you are not going to have an inch of syrian territory, so begin thinking how you can profit in being on the winner side, if not, you are done.

  • World_Eye

    What is it man, Turkey is playing both sides, 1 leg in NATO 1 leg in Russia, Iran and Syria, be careful from Erdogan, he is bad dog, he is like a Monkey he does not release the one grab until they reach the next one, all in all they must be attached on one, but grabing on both. So if Astana fails, then Erdogan has the NATO card right?! True, he even start to buy the F-35s, so I guess he was barking on nothing, easy all these is very carefully planned between the Turks and NATO buddies, although there is some disagreements, when it comes to the Kurds, Turkey needs the Astana, RUSSIA AND IRAN for interes to stay in Syria for their own sake just to remove their own threat and that’s the Kurds, if the Kurds impose no more threat to the Turkey, trust me Turkey has nothing then to be a friend with Russia and Iran and Syria and they will never come and sit on Astana anymore.

  • Feudalism Victory

    Just about time to put up or shut up. Do you revive the ottoman empire erdogan or do you back down? Both options might end in disaster….

  • VGA

    Few battles and a lot of reconciliation agreements. And Erdogan talks about targetting civilians wtf … bullcrap