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Turkish “Observation” Post Fired U.S.-Made Missiles At Russian Warplane Over Greater Idlib (Video)

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On February 21, the pro-opposition Arab 24 Agency released a video accidently revealing how a Turkish post opened fire at a Russian Su-24 warplane during the recent Turkish-led attack on the town of al-Nayran in Syria’s Idlib.

The video shows what appears to be Turkish service members launching a U.S.-made FIM-92 Stinger man-portable air-defense system (MANPADs) at the Russian warplane. Pro-government activists recognized the system thanks to the specially designed sight on the launcher.

The missile was fired from a Turkish post near the town of Qaminas, northwest of al-Nayrab. Communication antennas can be spotted on the post’s roof. A Turkish BMC Kirpi armored vehicle was guarding the entrance of the post, that was fortified with Hesco barriers like all Turkish posts in Idlib.

The Russian Su-24 was able to avoid at least two missiles launched from Qaminas. A video released earlier shows the warplane dogging one of the missiles by maneuvering and launching flares.

Despite hostile fire, Russian Su-24 warplanes provided the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) with close air support, enabling it to repel the Turkish-led attack on al-Nayrab.

Later, several Russian and Syrian airstrikes targeted Qaminas’ “observation” post, killing two Turkish service members and injuring at least five others.

While it remains unclear if the personnel firing the missiles were of the Turkish military or even intelligence, there is no denying that Turkey is responsible for the attack as it was launched from one of its military positions.

The Ministry of Defense of Russian has not commented on the footage, which represent a serious evidence against Turkey, thus far. In 2015, Russian-Turkish relations witnessed a major crisis after the shot down of a Su-24 warplane by the Turkish Air Force (TAF).

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  • Raptar Driver

    How much more evidence does Putin need to understand that Russia is at war with NATO?
    Don’t expect a legal declaration, criminals don’t bother with legalities.

    • Of course he understands. Have you noticed that Crimea is Russian?

      • Raptar Driver

        Have you noticed that Novorossiya is still under occupation?

        • Paul

          And the people of Novorossiya want it that way

          • Raptar Driver

            Putin could have gone all the way to Kiev, NATO would not have done shit, what stopped him?

          • Jens Holm

            People like You should be nailed with heads upside down. You are the reason for most missery in thewhole world.

            You midgets should not decide at all. People living there do. Go east of Vladivostok and take a swim.

          • Raptar Driver

            Says the dysfunctional Viking.

      • Wegan

        Yes, but Kiev is not. And the Russians where supposed to go all the way there. Then they stopped.

        • Zionism = EVIL

          That was Putin’s usual indecisiveness, the majority of Ukrainians want integration with Mother Russia, especially in the east where the majority of the population is Russian anyway.

          • Superfly

            Rossiya – svyashchennaya nasha derzhava,

      • Jens Holm

        We all know that Crimea was a part of a trade, when USSR collapsed. Fx Ukraine gave awat all nukes against western Europe too.

        The problems seemes to be none will trade. Ukraine could get compensation for Crimea. After WW1 Denmark voted for the new border to Germany instaed of taking, what we had in the old days. By that we got a good relationship. Today Denmark pay for danes in germany having schools and like that. Germans pay for schools and culture in the same way.

        People should make solutions like that.

        Crimea is not Russia unti Russia pay. You cant go shopping with no pay. I am dure Russia got something else. Ukraine did not collaps USSR.

        All did. The Marx Engels system in the Russian version was no good.

        • John Wallace

          Crimea was annexed by Russia in 1783 which predates your horseshit by 200 years .. Russian nukes stored in Ukraine were repatriated too Russia under an agreement that Russia will protect Ukraine, nothing to do with Crimea at all. The British , Turkey( Otterman Empire ) and France fought the Crimean war in 1856 against WHO Jens. Who did they fight against Jens. The Ukrainians ????

          • Jens Holm

            Again You are not able to read, what I wrote at all. Crimea was given to Ukraine in 1954. So it had been given to them for 37 years by USSR itself.

          • John Wallace

            It was “given” by Krushchev who was Ukrainian when Ukraine and Russia were all part of the same family so it didn;t matter as it was an exercise in diplomacy. It was never thought that Ukraine and Russia would seperate as they did. So you accept that Crimea was in fact Russian..

          • Jens Holm

            Sure, I probatly know more about then You.

          • Zionism = EVIL

            This idiot is a moron and you guys encourage him by replying. Please ignore him.

          • JIMI JAMES

            It was done illegit,sly,besides they gorbachev signed no treaty with usa about nato or other national security measures which kinda makes soviets legit?

          • Zionism = EVIL

            Trying to educate a certified cretin is really pointless. This guy is nuts and his posts don’t even translate into any known language.

        • Veraminow

          “Crimea is not Russia unti Russia pay. You cant go shopping with no pay.”

          So how much did Ukraine pay Russia for Crimea in 1954?

          • Zionism = EVIL

            The fat fuck opportunist Khrushchev created a fake Ukraine full of Jew scum. The Russians should have never allowed that, but it was right after Stalin and internal politburo squabbles.

        • JIMI JAMES

          Tell that to 97% of crimeans,its the peoples land not the incest spawned eu-epps

        • Zionism = EVIL

          Go away moron and stop spamming.

      • Zionism = EVIL

        Actually, all of Ukraine is historical Russian land called Kievan-Rus. The Orthodox religion started here and all major nationalistic Russian battles took place here.

        Well, let’s take a historical perspective; Ukraine is an integral part of Russia
        since the advent of Orthodoxy around a millennium ago. It was named Kievan-Rus for a reason as all important events of Russian religion and politics originate from Russian Ukraine. The Zionist infested so-called West must understand that, to Russia, Ukraine can never be just a foreign country. Russian history began in what was called Kievan-Rus. The Russian religion spread from there. Ukraine has been part of Russia for centuries, and their histories were intertwined before then. Some of the most important battles for Russian freedom, starting with the Battle of Poltava in 1709 , were fought on Ukrainian soil. The Black Sea Fleet — Russia’s means of projecting power in the Mediterranean — is based in Sevastopol, in Crimea since it was won over from the defeated Ottomans. Even such famed dissidents as Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn and Joseph Brodsky insisted that Ukraine was an integral part of Russian historyand, indeed, of Russia

        • RAAS

          Historically the whole Eurasian continent was Great Tartaria. Russia today is what is left from Tartaria after the war that was declared/waged by the “dark(evil, i.m.o. Zionism) men from terra incognioto”. Tartarian architecture found all over the world. Anglo Boer war, American Civil war and many other wars are i.m.o. all wars that were waged on Tartaria. Makes one think why “Dutch” soldiers were fought against in the so called American civil war…

        • Jens Holm

          Most of that is very upside down.

          Russia started in Moscow and those took Kief Russes after hevaing fightings.

          Ortodoxi started in Ukraine Kiev – haha.

          Moscow having it only ha ha ha ha.

          Reading more of it must conclude that Ukrainians are the real Russoans and the rest with Your belowed presidents are mongols from East milded some by people being a kind of those i Vippory.
          …………………………….

          Krimea also was 1000000% Tatars and muslims and was defeated by killings and after that deportations, so even the few left are not allowed to go home.

          Russian then. Well by force killing the many 100.000 locals. “Russian by very dirty hands”.
          ………………………………

          I dnt care what some solsjenitsin and brotsky said. The deciding is by the people living there vote by vote.

          Ukrainians never like communism at all. And You made them extreme right wings even putting many jews there to make even more confrontations.

          You killed and killed, You starved millions to death and deported many 100.000 to jails and Gulag after the resisted by force joininfg the Bolsjevics.

          How can a mother or father russia do that to own children, if they are. We see it even today, when You celebrate Your Great Father and Motherland won WW2.

          Most there lost their countris as well as local indepensy.

          And You forget the many other You fefeated by force from Caucasus and East. You even forget, that the first Al Kaida base was refugees escaping the Tzars but didnt forget. Those were the ones, which were given Stingers in Afghanistan.

    • I will forward your post to Vlad. He could use a cogent strategist like you.

      • Raptar Driver

        Make sure to include full sarcasm.

    • Jens Holm

      Russia is in carambolage with Turks only.

      • Raptar Driver

        NATO IS backing the Turks.

        • Jens Holm

          I dont see that at all. Nato has done almost anything to keep Turkey out of Syria and Iraq and several members even has sanctions in trade as well as trade with spareparts.

          I dont know where You get Your lies from.

          Only USA support Turkey in the Nato Regi. And true – EU pays Turkey for 3,5 mio. refugees shall never vome here. Thats no suipport as well.

          You comment is far out and totally mad biasing. If anything its more like we like none of You. I never likes You. Never.

          You all are my best friends as long as You stay where You are and only come, when You are invited for jobs until we decline and dont need You. We love to rent productive memebers of Yours.

          We also like to buy oil and gas from You, so You can buy our stuff.

          Thats about it.

          According Jews I like them less and less, because they look more and more like You and behave so as well.

          A wall west on Istanbul would be nice.

    • Willy Van Damme

      Do you really think he doesn’t know?

      • IMHO

        I think what he means is that sooner or later Putin is going to have to stop pussyfooting around.

    • Wayne Nicholson

      Russia has been at war with the west continuously since 1917. The war is fought economically, in cyber space and through proxies. I don’t think Russia needs any “evidence” …. it’s been the default state for more than a century and will continue for the foreseeable future. The trick is to keep it from going kinetic ….. that would be a disaster for life on earth.

    • Jens Holm

      I dont see that. I saw USA, Britts and partly France as winners retreat from Western Europe and given Marshall help to get them up again after devatsting war manily made by Germany and Italy.

      I didnt see USSR do anything like that at all all the way west of Berling even building a hard guarded fence to thhe rest of us.

      Before that Denmark always have had easy relations to Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lituania, Poland and Königsberg.

      Russia collapsed their neocolonialisme themselves. It also includes several states in Caucasus as well as east of it. Much to me as if the agressor is back, where they has to be – and that at home.

      • captainnemo2

        “given Marshall help to get them up again”
        It was a loan with interest. The british only finished paying it off sometime in the last ten years.

    • Zionism = EVIL

      The Turkey backstabbing criminal arseholes has been attacking the limited Russian forces contingent in Syria, who are engaged in anti-terrorism operations, since 24 November 2015 when a SU-24 was shot down several kilometers inside Syrian territory. There are many other instances of Turkeys attacking Russians under the guise of their headchopper terrorists. Now this new video is literally a smoking gun (or missile) of how brazenly the stupid Turkeys are targeting Russian and Syrian aircraft with Americunt Stinger manpads from their illegal occupation posts. These OP are illegal terrorist outposts used as training and warehousing of terrorists, who really are Turkeys in mufti. It is time Putin allow Russian forces to respond with force and exercise the right of legitimate self-defence. Any more Russian passivity will certainly cost Russian lives and further embolden the Turkeys and their Americunt masters who are the real puppet masters.

      • Jay v.

        Ya but Russia signed off on those terms and agreements under the Sochi deal. It is a legal obligation, so you cant turn around and say they are occupation posts when things go sour

        • Zionism = EVIL

          The Americunts have been tearing up agreements for over 200 years and the latest JCPOA with Iran which was globally supported. We live in rule of zoo where stronger animals prey on the weak. Russia is a superpower and the only one that abides by the rules. Look at China, it has demarcated and allocated whole of South China seas to itself and dash 9 line that runs through at least 6 nations. China has built artificial islands and placed missiles and jets on them, and what have the Americunt faggots done? FUCKALL!

    • Jens Holm

      Those none Russians has made their own choise. They never wanted Russians there. They never had that choise and many even resisted with guns.

      Thieves like Russians should never be allowed to take stolen lands back. Name Your stupidisme asYou wish. Comming from a small country myself having the Baltic sea as for the ones living around it, I anytime will defend the ones, which even try to take back their theft.

      People even making wall all the way west of Berlin was no unification from Hitler. It was just getting another maybee more terrible Leader and its human hostile behavings.

      Mush tempting to assueme Ukrainiens are Europeand and People of Moscow are Monglians.

      Those countries never will join a collpased mistake like Russia. We defend that as we can. Thats no war defending our own very mixted Europe from a stupid dream of the most violent kind against us.

      • Raptar Driver

        Ukrainians are Russian, same language same DNA.

  • BillA

    I think we may now get Putin’s measure.

  • Arbaches Glaukus

    Russia is able to wipe out this Turkish observation post in less then one hour. It won’t happen because this may upset Israel, and may start a conflict with Turkey. So what is going on in Idlib Syria, it is a very very complicated situation, depended to many (variables) players Visible and Invisible.

    • Tudor Miron

      This observation post was a target of air strike shortly after that silly attempt to down Su-24. To Turks dead and more are injured. Do you think that’s a coincidence? There’s no point wiping it out just yet. Those posts are nothing other than hostages and leverage against silly Erdo.

      • Yeah I think the observation posts are leveraging in a direction now which they werent intended for, too.

        Erdogan probably thought the Damascus alliance didn’t have enough gas to really crack open Idlibistan, and the posts would help consolidate Turkish control there, but the plan backfired- the posts are now a liability.

        • Zionism = EVIL

          From a pure military point of view, they are unsustainable and very vulnerable to all kinds of attacks, IEDS, artillery, ATGM and ambushes, not to mention drone, air and missiles. They are small penny packets of no real value and indeed a liability. A lot of Turkeys will be cooked if the SAA and its allies get serious.

  • Southfront puts “observation” post in quotes as if they aren’t actually observation posts.

    Nothing is further from the truth. They are places where Turkler terroristler can be observed behaving badly.

    Please correct this error. Thxz

    • John Wallace

      Is this one of their new OP’s claimed as such since the SAA advance or an original approved one. If it is a new one then it it has not been agreed too and is or should not be exempt from attack. By firing a missile at aircraft it has declared itself as an active member of the war and as such then becomes a legitimate target for destruction. Turkey by sending in convoys of equipment , manpower and vehicles to assist in an active attacks is now a legitimate target.

      • Jens Holm

        I think they know that very well…

        • John Wallace

          Dipshit . Just can’t help yourself can you. Just make a comment of no relevance just to make a comment. Do you know how dumb you are. Obviously not. Go to work or bed Jens or get drunk or drugged or something useful.

          • Zionism = EVIL

            That is the object of his attention seeking behavior. He is a moron ans just spams.

    • Jens Holm

      It might be a fire position as a part of the observation posting. Maybee.

      • Willy Van Damme

        Of course. It is very quiet at the front at the moment. Silence before the storm? But Erdogan seems te have gotten no positieve answers to his request for military aid. So it seems he’ll be on his own with his salafi friends.

        • Jens Holm

          I am sure Trump, Merkel and Makron dont like him at all. I vore for no help.

          He might get some more money for the refugees …

  • Constellation 2023

    Moscow gave up on its only aircraft carrier, Admiral Kuznetsov, after two major accidents and fires. The repair costs are huge. Russia is already bankrupt and no match for the US.

    • John Wallace

      Are you in trouble and need rescuing ?

      • Jens Holm

        He still only use facts.

        • Carlo s

          the only facts here is that both of you are imbeciles (and probably lovers)

          • Jens Holm

            He borrows my Grandmother for money and dont pay in time. I shall try to calm down.

            Necrofiles sometimes are very hard ones. Much like he insist in paying in dollars to get rid of them. We use Euro here and has parambulators for shekels too.

          • Carlo s

            uh huh your grandmother, necrophiliacs, hard ones, shekels, parambulators… perfectly normal comment – for your standards 😃

          • JIMI JAMES

            Yeah like going by boths gender,ain’t the woman who always wears the mini skirt.

        • John Wallace

          You haven’t a CLUE about what I said Jens and by the looks of it neither does he. I understand your comment is soley to denigrate me with no substance so whatever … :-(

          • Jens Holm

            Mich like Yoiu have no clue about what he wrote and what You have written Yourself.

          • John Wallace

            How fucking dumb are you Jens. It is nothing to do with what he wrote at all but you can’t understand that can you because you don’t understand what I said. As for me not knowing what I said ?? … even a club wouldn’t knock any sense into your thick head.

          • Jens Holm

            Then put Your comment to, where You think it belongs to.

          • John Wallace

            My comment is where it belongs . How about you explain to me what my comment says too Constellation and why 12 others understand what I meant but you don’t.

        • Redadmiral

          Facts can do what you want them to….

        • JIMI JAMES

          Re read the above low iq bot!

        • Traiano Welcome

          No he doesn’t. He uses 1 fact out of every 9 non-facts, with 3 or 4 factoids thrown into the mix. Overall this is called “Distorting the Truth”, or “Lying” in the vernacular.

    • Black Waters

      Russia bankrupt? HAHAHAHAAHHAHA!!

      Of all people saying such a stupid statement you come here and say that? LOL!

      An Americunt with a debt of 33 trillions saying others are bankrupt? Haha

      I don’t know if you notice, but Russia has most of the natural resources of the planet, they can withstand a looooong time with their own resources, unlike the U.S gestapo that needs to pillage and plunder to steal other countries resources.

      You should be a comedian dude.

      • Jens Holm

        Those economies are not comparable at all.

        Russia is higly dependent in price for oil and gas and will be in big trouble, if the prices goes down.

        USA is not.

        • IMHO

          And the U.S. is also dependent on oil but the main thing that the U.S. is dependent on is DEBT and no matter what happens with oil the U.S. WILL eventually crumble under it debt.

          • Jens Holm

            As You wish. USA dont import oil anymore and ceratinly not the sulphur crude one from Syria.

            And Yes, their debt is too big, but there are no reason for worries but corrections in the value might decline.

            If crisis hots USA it will hit the rest of the western world incl. China too. So USA will be helped by us for no real crisis and a slow declining to a bettre level.

            Nothing wrong in crumbling. I am nothing but I do work for and is stockholder for windpower systems as well as insolation by Rockwool.

            So I am for reducing waste in electricity, heat and cooling. We can grow by that. There is a lot of waste here and all over the world.

          • JIMI JAMES

            Nations have wisened up,not only bilaterally but independantly (period)
            the true wealthy more intelligent nations like australia who saved many a real deal 100% gold backed trillions,did not waste workers superanuations like usa,which means when it hits the fan and really hit the fan,the others particularly natural resource a plenty like russia,australia and other nations worldwide will not feel the effect compared to incest spawn neo-liberal hegomony debt disorders!
            Simply won’t happen,china can easily replace us dolla with gold backed yuan,
            Usa to be frank,is now only on life support,living from all others taxes worldwide!

          • Jens Holm

            Maybee, but I anytime will use “responsible” for its debt politics, because they are an omportant part of the Western Economics.

            Dollars to me are based on trust. As long as You trust, they produce and give many loans fx by IMF in a sober way, its good econimics to print money to show the real value of the dollar and the economy.

            The problems by that are – as I see it – is reduced to a netto part, where they only eat and produce nothing.

            Parts of that also can be ineffective production. A smaller but good example cpuld be other countries produce aluminum for them. It seemes better to buy then some company in USA has peoduced it.

            Thats a main dilemma for most states, because then You have to have money from the outside to buy that aluminium by others productions and services.

            Thats were I might follow You and use the word dependent. There is no minus in the aluminmum. Fine having no minus, but tey have to buy.

            Often its also forgotten, that USA as well as many others dont own oilfields fx in Iraq. Big compåanies does, so USA do try to protect that production supporting those companies.

            But whwn I read here again and again its totally ignored that those oilcompanies actully are based on the stockmarket, where anybody incl. You and Me today can buy shares and be Co owners.

            So criticists are up against millions of very small owners in many parts of the world as well as big ones. None of them – inclusive my pension fond – would like the USA owned company, where great parts might not be USA owned by stockilders there, but me and You too.

            So I think You should see that part of income and debt as an insurrance for socalled USA owned production.

            The risk for that open economy is, that those companies might more or less buy Your country by buying Your stockings. Denmark with its very open economy i slike that. You could buy more then half of our production if You have money and share the profit with danes.

            In the other hand You do make the companies very big loans, they invest and then makes more profit. Danes do sell big companies if the price is correct, but we also buy big companies in oter parts of the world and by those investments make more money back – but a great part is to stockholders like Me and You.

            I dont know where You are from, but Danes has made a coutry which is some ways is very capaitalic and some ways are kind of socialistic.

            Thats why Sanders and Warren talk about Danish and Scandinavian models. Here we do understand their speech very much. They are correct. USA do need economic reforms, where we are better then them. We are not dependent or close to collapse as right wings in USA says. Our GDP and living standards are fine.

            A main things is we ALSO invest in education and healht care for all. Thats not giving money out as expensive wellfare and debts. Most of that part of people got integrated with the rest of us and are not waste and minus. They become very good taxpayers or at least can pay most things by themselves. We jave cheaters too and do punish them too. But most people do like to learn and be like anybody else.

            We have about 80% of the poeple working even we do have a high tax. Thats because they get back in ecusation for tem and their children, they get relative good pension and alnost free healtcare. They also trust the state incl. courts and police and by that join the rest of us. We also see a lowered crimerate compared to USA and many other countries(we do have bad crime as well).

            And I am very proud in one thing. We have decentalized tax, where 50% is in and out at county level. By that were are in top 5 according corruption.

            A lot of money too easy can go anywhere else to black pockets with bad taxsystems having “self control” and big punishments, if You by unluck are found.

            So thats why I am worried but see no collapse. USA need some changes making more into middleclass and by make them qualified to that byinvestments.

            The big USA GDP today grow by imported “mexicans” in very low paid jobs, where You have to work many many hours being rewarded with almost nothing.

            The future for USA is upgrading. Those low paid jobs should remain or be moved to countries, where the wages are low but also are compensated by low prices.

            Too many in USA in some matters are like Syria, Turkey, Iraq and Lebanon. They only know tthe rest of the world as they are told from old days. But in USA the communications should be different. They have no censureshio in those matters. They have ignorance and reform problems.

          • IMHO

            I can’t understand what you are saying. But I see you mention responsibility and trust and say that our monetary policy of printing money is good.
            Printing money out of thin air is not responsible and anyone who trusts in your Keynesian economics is ignorant. All it is doing is enslaving us and future generations in debt and loss of freedom.

        • munhu mutapa

          USA is dependent on puppets and brute force without that its nothing compared with Russia and and China who use diplomacy.

          • Jens Holm

            Are You family to Von Münchausen:)

        • Chris P

          Wrong. The American economy is very dependant on OIL. A huge part of the North American economy is from Oil/NATGAS. Say this to a person from Texas or Alaska or Louisiana. The list is long. Your are so far from correct on this. A dangerous game flooding the market. Not good for business at all. Ask yourself how much it cost to produce a barrel in North America, compared to Russia.

          • Jens Holm

            You have forgotten to add they also export oil.

            Fx wiki says: Overall, the United States imports more than it exports, making it a net importer of petroleum. In 2017, imports provided 19% of the country’s demand for petroleum. … However, in the last few years, the U.S. has begun exporting a significant quantity of crude oil, due largely to high domestic oil production.

          • ©igare☘☘e👽Sm⚽️k🚬ng🦉Man️🎲

            By the way…The U.S. buys oil FROM Russia.

          • Jens Holm

            Fine with me.

        • JIMI JAMES

          agriculture,arms exports,gold mining,atomic energy power plants second to none,
          worlds leading oil producer + gas exporter,never runs out,over 75 trillion on tap,
          say what 24 trillon debted low,dumbest society in the history of mankind todays,
          but for your few odd tyrants living off other harder workers taxes,your success?

        • Wayne Nicholson

          The US economic supply chain relies on Chinese manufacturing for everything from dollar store toys to parts for the f-35. The USA is getting in big trouble because the Corona virus has stopped factory production in China. We don’t see the effects yet because the rabbit is only starting to travel through the snake but it’s gonna hit and when combined with the enormous US corporate debt load and stock bubble it will hit hard.

          Russia has no such problems because since 1917 they’ve been sanctioned and isolated by the west so they have a self contained economy that produces just about everything Russia needs. Russia doesn’t have a high octane consumer economy but it manages to chug alone regardless of what you throw at it.

          • Jens Holm

            We will see. We all will get a decline period when a health crisis is all over the world.

            I still also see Russia will get problems if they cannot sell their oil and gas or are paid less.

            Russia has not been sanctioned since 1917 at all. The main problems has been, they has had nothing usefull to buy.

            You also forget WW2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease

            Before that Germany was a big trade partner and very innovative as well as it bought anything USSR was able to produce.

            I do not know where You get those “sanctions” from. If anything I see Russia has limited most things and we have not.

            There even has been made an armed wall between the USSR neocolonialisme and us. Who made that !!!

            Sanctions against Russai is a new thing and the reasons for them are well known. Someone here even wrote it was for protection of Ukraine the Russia demanded influence at them.

            Who will attack Ukraine: We wont. It make sense they dont want to jopin the collapsed USSR and try something else. They have big problems as long as the Engels failure in Kremlin/Moscow context try hard to infect those changes and fascist, old communist and very bad nationalists are so difficut to clean away for them. They even has nazis.

    • AJ

      Check the debt levels of Russia & US and try again as to who is bankrupt. The only thing keeping US afloat is reserve status of dollar.

      • Jens Holm

        Thats incorrect. Much American depth is based on they can produce. Russia is gold or npt gold under the pillow.

        • IMHO

          No, he is right. The U.S. is drowning in debt and uses the dollars reserve status to keep that debt floating. It will fail and when it does then America will produce nothing.

          • Jens Holm

            I dont see that usual enemy prediction as any fact at all. They do need some reforms and some changed economic behavings.

            So I am a little worried. I see no sign from sign. I see from Sanders it is possible to think and act different there too.

            In estimates the USA healt care system cost twice as much as ours, but – difficult to compare – we are better for half of the price.

            I dont think they should or can compare with Denmark, but they can take good ideas from the rest of the worlf and implement their own version.

            We fx use a lot of money fx for free education and other kinds of help. We think thats our crimerates in most things are much lower. We prefare that making jobs, using social workers in stead of over armed police and hard core jails.

            I think thats quality thinking and its not as expensive as criminals and all around them. People alos are less afraid here even not many has guns at home or in the pocket.

        • ©igare☘☘e👽Sm⚽️k🚬ng🦉Man️🎲

          Yeah, the US produces…they produce war and weapons for war….oh yeah and corn!

        • JIMI JAMES

          No proof,usa is not producing anywhere near not even if the debt was a tenth
          they still can’t afford the interest rates,sooner of later they will hit the fan,the fed takes over and there will be tyranny of the worse historic kind $7 ph slaves will be plenty and getting worse by the year,even inflation cannot cover higher wages,california is now a failure most homeless state in planet earth,typhus,and leppars all over pelosis electorate,these are the signs of self destructing empire!

    • IMHO

      Aircraft carriers will be useless in a real war against a real enemy. Russia knows this. Eventually the U.S. will find that out the hard way.

      • Jens Holm

        Thats very incorrect. The role for them has changed. Putting out 70 jets anywhere in the world is a big threat. Most countries cant resist that.

        • Carlo s

          denmark can’t resist two germans on bicycles, last time you capitulated in 15 minutes 🤣

          • Jens Holm

            Before they took us, they took Austria, Tjekkoslovakia, Poland, Holland, Belgium, Luxemburg and France.

            We were like at the Chamberlein side as GB and USA.

            Maybee I wasnt here, if Germans had to bombarde us as they did with the ones before us…

            I was not even born. My father was 9 year old, and I do undertsnad the dilemma.

            Danes did rescue almost all Jews here. I like that part.

          • Raptar Driver

            Danes are Germanic.

          • Jens Holm

            We are members of the Germanic languge group. That includes Norway, Sweden, Icleand, Netherland, Half of Belgium, Austria and parts of Switzerland.

            We have been our own country more then 1000 years.

            Germany as a real state is a new thing made by Hirtler in 1933.

            I Think You should read about it. Thats easy having Internet already. Until 1864 we had possitions in Germany mainly by marrige by kings but also friendship.

        • IMHO

          Like I said, a real war against real enemies. Beating up on little countries who have no real ability to fight toe to toe is all they are really good for anymore.

          • Jens Holm

            If they are the big one, its difficult to find someone bigger.

    • Vitex

      Why would you even bother

    • Willy Van Damme

      With the present weapons technologie an aicraft carrier is nothing but a sitting duck. A push on the button and there it goes fishing.

    • Tudor Miron

      Your stupidity is no match for Erdogan’s but we can see that you’re trying hard.

    • Carlo s

      they don’t need an aircraft carrier to completely and utterly destroy turkey in 30 minutes, a few tactical nukes are more than enough (and they have 7000+ warheads, more than US). but keep begging yanks for help pathetic turd.

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    • Wayne Nicholson

      Just where do you see aircraft carriers being decisive in the defence of Russia against the USA?

      Given Russia’s geostrategic location and foreign policy how do you see aircraft carriers fitting into Russia’s military strategy?

      The Admiral Kuznetsov’s role was to guard Soviet subs in the Barents Sea. Her main weapons were anti-shipping missiles, an S-300 SAM and anti- submarine helicopters. Her handful of aircraft were secondary weapons.

      How do you see the loss of such a ship tipping the balance between the USA and Russia when US carriers have been outranged Russian anti-shipping missiles since the 1970’s?

    • John Wallace

      You obviously don’t have a clue about what I am saying to you which shows you haven’t a clue what YOU are saying so I sugest you feed your crabs and crawl back under your rock . Totally dumb little boy who thinks he is so smart but doesn’t realise what a dumb fuckwit he is.

      • ©igare☘☘e👽Sm⚽️k🚬ng🦉Man️🎲

        hahaha…
        He is so pathetic he upvotes him self !
        Thats like having a wank and then congratulating him self for it !!!
        hahaha

      • Jens Holm

        He is like me in this. We have no clue about, what You try to say. Tell it in Your own language and we can try by Google tranlate. Bing has a translater too.

        • John Wallace

          Look at his avatar and explain it to me. Military expert that you are should be able to work it now.

    • gustavo

      Yes, the same though Napoleon (France) and Hitler (Germany), now it is the time for USA.

    • Oscar Silva Martinez

      Russia has stated that they don’t need carriers anymore to defend itself because they now have powerful long range missiles capable of sinking these floating dinosaurs.
      Aircraft carriers are still very useful when you attack 3rd world countries with limited defense capabilities.

    • wwinsti

      And the pedogon wants to ditch every littoral class ship ever built, so what’s your point again?

    • Redadmiral

      Aircraft carriers like the Dwight D and the Harry S., have No Defence against Zircon or other Russian Hypersonic missile systems

    • JIMI JAMES

      Carriers are useless against emp and hypersonics (period) Russia can make them like hot dogs in new york stands(period) Russian economy not in debt but surplus 100% gold backed (period)
      usa s rotted in debt(historic world record) Thus on life support only a matter of time self destruct!
      Being the incest inspired luciferain complex mental disorderly liat,of course the reverse is truth!

    • Traiano Welcome

      A smart thing to do. Carriers are relics of the last war, as the next world war will demonstrate …
      Compare with the Americans who got their latest combat ship stuck in the Panama Canal but just doubled down on the stupidity.

  • Maluta86

    This old smelly pig Erdogan, would have to do a lot of damage control and explaining in front of Putin. I believe he was checked and caught red handed as well. The Russian offer is probably slightly different now, one can assume.

    • Jens Holm

      He has done it himself. He is a corner and has to act at least some…

  • Tudor Miron

    Turkey tried to play a dangerous game and lost some men as a reward. Next time they try they will loose more. Erdo, Erdo… your stupidity is digging your grave.

  • Wegan

    There was a guy who spoke Arabic with an accent and then started speaking Turkish fluently.
    They are embedded in HTS and leading them. That’s insane.
    Turkey is a rogue state like a dangerous Israel.

    • John Wallace

      Erdogan has always talked of including Syria as part of Turkey.

      • Tim Williams

        just like the NAZIS has their LEBENSRAUM

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum

        That didn’t work out to well for them …

        • Jens Holm

          As I reacall it. Its long time ago, its only half of the old provinces Aleppo, Raqqa, Diabykir and maybee Turkish Kurdistan.

        • John Wallace

          It did for awhile. but the eyes got to big for the stomach in the end. Germany had a population of 60 odd million and what they did was impressive , and frightening if compared too Americas present 320 million , until they expanded in too many directions against too many countries / people , Russia being their downfall in the end despite the unbelievable losses Russia took at the start.

      • FlorianGeyer

        There is a Turkish monument to an old Ottoman battle in in Aleppo, not far from the current Turkish border. The monument has some sort of special access rights with Syria.

        • John Wallace

          Ottoman Sultan Selim I conquered most of Syria in 1516 after defeating the Mamlukes at the Battle of Marj Dabiq near Aleppo.

  • Boerre

    These “observation posts” are now ligitimate military targets. Bring in the white swans and erase them from the face of the earth.

  • Xoli Xoli

    Erdogan wants to destroy Russia from within.He even proposed to form a joint task force with USA to test and match s-400 capabilities with NATO systems. Erdogan is expose in his dark world.No single Russian military General will ever trust him or get closed to Erdogan.

  • Xoli Xoli

    Erdogan the fake friend of Putin and a Pretender can easily attack Putin in the Presidential hall.

  • gustavo

    This is a very important evidence. I am sure Russia will have the right answer for this.

  • Tim Williams

    On March 05 … PUTIN and the madman will meet again … Turks turned down last proposal …
    New proposal is that ALL TURKEY observation posts in IDLIB be removed and vacated … or they will be bombed out of existence .. no ceasefire line

    • ©igare☘☘e👽Sm⚽️k🚬ng🦉Man️🎲

      By the 5th of March there won’t be any Turks in Idlib or in fact Afrin !

  • Jim Bim

    Russian – Turkish cooperation is toast, better delay second patch S-400 and final installment.

    • ©igare☘☘e👽Sm⚽️k🚬ng🦉Man️🎲

      Better take back what they already delivered to them!

    • John Wallace

      The Yanks will be sitting back rubbing their hands with glee and working out what else they can do to stir the mud.

      • Tim Williams

        PUTIN already got 100% of his money for the systems … he could care less at this point

        • Jim Bim

          Exactly.

      • Zionism = EVIL

        Really does not matter as the Turkeys have no honor and will always backstab Russia or anyone, they are eternal slaves to Zionism and Americunts. Putin’s initial misjudgement of Turkey low lives and Erdogan the illiterate pimp is now coming back to haunt him and costing Russian lives. Only way to deal with these Turkey goat fuckers is to roast them.

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7f9f21104aa62e18e5f19369b1d1c3ef25a8e0da0eba0154bf3ff60a04075a81.jpg

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    • Tim Williams

      a couple of mysterious water mines of unknown origin could also pop up soon … things fall of the rear of pleasure boats all the time you know … shit happens …

      • ©igare☘☘e👽Sm⚽️k🚬ng🦉Man️🎲

        I am sure ”accidents” like the one you describe can happen from the Russian side too…

        And the Russians have nucs…that would be a big ”accident”…! 😉

        • Tim Williams

          no … don’t see nukes … not happening

          • ©igare☘☘e👽Sm⚽️k🚬ng🦉Man️🎲

            Its doesnt have to be Hiroshima – Nagasaki size again…
            There are small nucs these days going about…

          • Willing Conscience (The Truths

            But only Russia has them, artillery delivered too.

          • ©igare☘☘e👽Sm⚽️k🚬ng🦉Man️🎲

            The US Navy’s new nuclear cruise missile starts getting real next year

            https://www.defensenews.com/smr/nuclear-arsenal/2020/02/21/the-navys-new-nuclear-cruise-missile-starts-getting-real-next-year/

            Risk of Nuclear War Rises as U.S. Deploys a New Nuclear Weapon for the First Time Since the Cold War

            The Federation of American Scientists revealed in late January that the
            U.S. Navy had deployed for the first time a submarine armed with a low-yield Trident nuclear warhead. The USS Tennessee deployed from Kings Bay Submarine Base in Georgia in late 2019. The W76-2 warhead, which is facing criticism at home and abroad, is estimated to have about a third of the explosive power of the atomic bomb the U.S. dropped on Hiroshima. The International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons (ICAN) called the news “an alarming development that heightens the risk of nuclear war.”

            https://www.democracynow.org/2020/2/7/us_new_low_yield_nuclear_weapons

          • Willing Conscience (The Truths

            Are you hinting the Russians should get in first, only joking, maybe that was just what I was thinking.
            That sub could be heading to the Syrian coastline right now, in fact it could be there already, perhaps both sides are preparing for the worst, I suppose they’d be stupid not to.

          • ©igare☘☘e👽Sm⚽️k🚬ng🦉Man️🎲

            Nucs is not the answer for anything.
            It is actually mad to even for one country on the planet to have nucs.
            This is more than one country prevailing over another.
            This is about mankind and surviving as a species, this is about the planet surviving humanity’s stupidity.
            The only acceptable nucs would be, for me anyway, to have a joint UN storage in some remote island in the pacific ocean and use them on some meteorite or maybe on some alien invasion or something.

          • Willing Conscience (The Truths

            I agree totally up to a point, but when your enemy has nukes and won’t give them up you don’t really have a choice, you need them to survive.
            I wonder what would’ve happened to Russia, China, and North Korea if they hadn’t aquireded nuclear weapons, would they still be here now, mmm. only in a perfect world.
            If we banned all the mad politicians from applying for political office we wouldn’t have to ban nuclear weapons, nukes wouldn’t have been invented in the first place, lets get rid of all our insane leaders first and solve a whole lot more problems than just the threat of nuclear war.
            One day in the Future maybe. :]

  • Joe Doe

    This was very obvious Turkey lunch such MANPAD. The same Turkey soldier shut down two SAA helicopter. Operates MANPAD with such precition requierit substantial training and militanst have such training in short time

  • BlueOctopusBoy

    How does Turkey provide basic sustenance supplies to OB posts surrounded by SAA? Are trucks allowed to carry stuff in once checked?

    • Willing Conscience (The Truths

      Yes and they’re not checked at all.

  • SnowCatzor

    MANPADS can’t do much a high flying fast-jet, there probably wasn’t much threat. Still, it was funny listening to those terrorist fools getting their hopes up over nothing.

    The problem with the Su-24 is that both Syria and Russia use them, so the Turks can just claim they thought it was a Syrian one. Maybe Russia should only use Su-34’s now.

    • JIMI JAMES

      ‘ala,ala,al,oh al no,eh,ala?
      sht happens,in the name of democracy,get more,put it on hatos tab!

  • Fair treatment

    This people are so fanatic…
    What Russia will do to them will be forever remembered in history..
    And if Turkey will piss of Russia, Russians will give them a lesson..to don’t fuck whit Russia and support terrorists..
    If Turkey will really attack Syria army,
    Syria army will bring the war in Turkey land,and Turkey will feel the pain which they created to Syrian people..
    Turkish president is a Big ISIS supporter..

  • Willing Conscience (The Truths

    So the clever feind Erdogan is killing 2 birds with the one stone, 1 he’s making it harder for the Syrians and Russians to precisely hit their targets, and 2 he’s making it harder for the Russians and Syrians to avoid civilian casualties, and both suit Erdogan’s purposes.
    Having to fly at higher altitudes to avoid low level air defences will have an impact, even for the more sophisticated Russian Airforce.
    No jamming by Turkey though, which is strange, they’ve used it twice already but haven’t over the last couple of days, I wonder why not.
    I think it’s time for Russia to ship in some of those anti radar missiles because they may need them soon, the Turks may not want to go to war against Russia but they will retaliate if push comes to shove, it’s better to be well prepared just in case. Russia may have to take out some Turkish radar units if they really want to keep their aircraft safe, the next step up for Turkey is Patriots so even high altitude attacks will be vulnerable.

  • TruthSeeker

    The Muslims will fight back. We will make sure to exhaust Russia as the Muslims did to the the Soviet Union.

    • alejandro casalegno

      Like in Chechnya????………….

  • goingbrokes

    It’s hard not to see these actions as those of Turkish armed forces. But there is a question to be asked, is it possible that some units in TAF are out of control. I wouldn’t put it past them.
    The Stingers may also be smuggled in, they may not be from standard Turkish inventory. It’s very complicated out there.

  • 42 HSabbagh

    Yea this guy erdagon is losing it.

  • Hellincorporated

    Told you so years ago Mr Putin : another stab in the back. When will you start to conduct this war properly ?
    Time is running out.

  • Empire’s Frontiers

    It’s as though the tipped over mast on top of the stairwell enclosure has a turkish flag on top.

    Or is that some other pile of red cloth at the end of a metal pole?

    • Jens Holm

      Its golf. Those soldiers hope for hole in one:)

  • Cheryl Brandon

    nato’s headchoppers in Idlib; SAA AND RUSSIAN WILL LIBERATE IDLIB WHICH IS PART OF sYRIAN TERRITORY!!