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Turkey is testing its the S-400 air defense system obtained from Russia by detecting and tracking US F-35 and F-22 fighter jets, according to media reports circulating online.
Over the past few days, Turkish and Russian pedia outlets have repeatedly speculated that the S-400 system deployed at Murted Air Base on outskirts of Turkish capital of Ankara.
In 2019, Turkey used its Air Force F-16 jets to test the S-400 and the system demonstrated high capabilities. In 2020, as tensions between the US and Turkey, as well as between Turkey and other NATO members were growing, Ankara allegedly used the S-400 to track US warplanes operating in the region.
A 2019 video showing tests of the S-400 system with US-made fighter jets in Turkey:
Earlier, the Turkish leadership declared that the S-400 system that the country has is set to be fully operational in 2020. In June 2020, the head of Turkey’s Defense Industries Administration also declared that Ankara is considering an option to buy more S-400 systems from Russia.
LOL, this gets better every day. Second largest NATO cunts “ally”.
The sultan has reasonable concerns that the US might try to send some freedom bombs his way. S-x00 is the logical defense against that.
Most people here still are in old days according warfare.
As for Iran there hardly will be any soldiers in any kind of attack.
Turks and Iranians will be hit by infrastructure destructions and then they cant move like a human with no arms and legs and brain damage.
Its very visible USA by Tech. wont see bodybags comming home, if they can avoid it.
Its very strange people here dont understand it doesnt matter if fx Old Iraqm Syria, Iran and for that matter has 100.000 or 400.000 soldiers as long as they only are feet on the ground and are not able to go nowhere.
Mate you are an idiot who craves attention, but do post in English. You are a wasted space.
This is not a comment.
It’s very strange that you don’t understand that Russia and China are generations ahead of the US in missile, radar and EW capabilities, meaning they are far ahead of the US in conventional capabilities, especially considering the failing weapons systems in the US arsenal. The only thing the US has left is its strategic nuclear arsenal. It no longer has the technical expertise to close the gap, having deliberately ceded the leadership to China over the last 20 years along with most of its manufacturing capabilities.
They are in front in missiles. I have written that many times.
The rest is very biased. The Chinese are the ones making the cake to share bigger – not Russia.
True. No one could reach airplane and naval tech of Americans yet. Russians are aware that they could never compete with yanks in air and sea , thus they concentrated on a cheaper alternatives like missiles and nuclear tech, just like what Iran is trying to do now.
He understands nothing. All his posts are BS.
Not as far ahead as you think but still ahead as a result of the US and NATO making dumb decisions in their war planning, especially after the Cold War. It has nothing to do with strategically made decisions and everyone thing to do with the j**s controlling both east and west, this is apart of watering down our military capabilities in conjunction with gradual White genocide via population replacement, White victims of rape or murder, and the mass promotion of miscegenation.
Those are bold predictions, Jens. Are you inspired by the recent explosions from Iran or just covid drinking?
It seemes You cant read what I have been writing even You probatly has blamed USA for destruction of fx Mosul and Raqqa.
They do that. They dont put in soldiers but knock out all logistics. That does it.
“They dont put in soldiers but knock out all logistics. That does it.”
They don’t put US soldiers in harms way …. they use “partners” like the SDF in Syria or ARVN in Vietnam.
Levelling a city only creates a fortress for the defender. Someone still has to go in and root them out. That was true in Stalingrad, that was true in Fallujah and that was true in Mosel and Allepo.
Air power alone didn’t defeat the Germans or the Japanese. It didn’t win the Vietnam war, or Korea and it didn’t defeat the Taliban.
What you’re seeing with the USA’s wizz bang way of warfare is a more about owning a magic printing press combined with an ignorant tax base.
US infantry on patrol meets opposition they can call in an air strike that includes a pair of strike aircraft, a pair of fighters flying cover, a refuelling tanker, an AWAC all coming from an aircraft carrier with 5000 men supported by a carrier group of 15 – 20 ships. The aircraft cost on average $2000 / hr to operate and require days to a week of maintenance between sorties …. then there’s the cost of ordinance.
They could also call in arty strike which involves a platoon of gunners and a radio or use their own mortars and RPG’s. The former solution costs $$$ tens of millions the latter costs thousands but at the risk of sending home US soldiers in body bags which irritates the taxpayer.
What other country on earth can afford such luxury …. they are in effect keeping the taxpayer happy by spending their own money and a big chunk of than money ends up in the MIC pockets.
Best fucking scam in history!!!
Actually they erased them cities from the face of earth, ISIS couldn’t care less of the infrastructure.
Yeah we can’t read what you have written because it is so badly written no one can make sense of anything you write hence we tend to just call you an idiot or ignore you.
USA is extremely vulnerable to EMP weapons.
So if usa starts to destroy , say irani infrastructure, usa infrastructure is fair game.
An EMP would bring the technology addicted americans to their knees.
An EMP would also close down the Bitcoin enthusiasts as well.
The concept is good but the weakness is the 100% necessity of the internet being available.
At least the banking elite can be rounded up and roasted on spit’s, even if the money is gone. :)
Almost all international transactions also.
Saeed all currency/money. Will be wortless
Its this illusion that causes the downfall.
Infrastructure is no problem for other than the invader. Its wellknown you cant win a war from the air only.
See Syria where Assad’s troops and Putin back-up in air and ground, quickly turned the situation around.
“Turks and Iranians will be hit by infrastructure destructions”
This is the reason to put an emphasis on the S-x00 systems. It is to protect the people of these nations from the infrastructure destruction that the US prefers to inflict suffering and death with.
Putin made a good decision as the Turks are using them against US planes.
I will not be surprised to see Turkey withdraw from both Syria and Libya. Not at all!. Erdogan’s circle is closed.It is clear that the sinking of some Turkish ships in Libya will completely change the balance in the Mediterranean and the Black Sea.
There will be more slaps on Turkey. the United States due to elections they will not be able to be actively involved and help Turkey in Libya.
Turkey is a NATO member, personally I wouldn’t mind if the Turkish conquest of Asia Minor were undone. Or at least have Albania, Kosovo, Constantinople and the Turkish part of Europe returning to European hands.
You mean kill all the Albanians who are Europeans and give their lands to Greeks and Serbs is what you mean when you say return to European hands lol come you will end just like Milosevic.
I don’t endorse genocide and I know it is impractical and counter-productive in this century and most of the previous century. After regaining independence after 4-5 centuries of Ottoman occupation, the Balkan league would have had to ally with Russia to continue their war against the Turks to reclaim Ottoman territory in Europe and transform Albania into Epirus.
I don’t know if Italy after conquering Albania in 1936 renamed it Epirus, anyway I think British relations with the Ottoman empire in return for access to strategic trade routes helped the Ottomans to hold onto Greece and the Balkans for a longer period of time.
Most residents of Kosovo are Albanians, most of whom come from west or central Asia as a result of the Ottoman empire conquering the Balkans. I don’t think Milosevic was a war criminal, in 2017 he was posthumously exonerated nearly two decades after his execution.
How do you know we Albanians come from West Asia have you done genetic work on us? Maybe you should do your research Albanian DNA is linked with Greek-Italian DNA but hey it must be impossible for Whites to accept Islam since it’s from the Middle East incase you forgot Jesus wasn’t European he was a Jew think on that. All i can say is a Serbian Armed Forces boots will never again step in Kosovo.
Albanians are predominately Muslim and possess west Asian admixture, this is genetically evident and people’s eyes don’t lie. As for the Greeks and Italians it depends on which type you are referring to: The white Greeks or Italians, or the brown ones? The latter is a result of miscegenation through a combination of importing slaves; Hellenic and Roman imperialism, Christianity and especially the Islamic conquest of Greece and also the Balkans. Spain and Portugal darkened for the same reasons.
“incase you forgot Jesus wasn’t European he was a Jew”
Jesus was invented by the Romans in an attempt to erase jewish tribalism after killing the rabbis and razing their synagogues to the ground, then it was used in another failed attempt to unite the Roman empire.
The Judahites and Israelites (they weren’t known as jews in English until the 15th or 16th centuries) that converted to Christianity infiltrated the highest positions of the Roman Catholic church to forcibly spread Christianity to the rest of Europe through war, genocide, and the destruction of many libraries, pagan art, languages, religions and cultures.
This was to spread the Noahide Laws far and wide in attempt to further their Torah “prophecies” of world conquest. Christianity and Islam are offshoots of Islam intended to achieve world conquest.
“All i can say is a Serbian Armed Forces boots will never again step in Kosovo.”
Kosovo was stolen from Serbia thanks to NATO recruiting, training, paying and arming terrorists (some were from the Taliban and the Mujahideen) to conduct terrorism in Kosovo.
You can never be certain how history will play out, or if Kosovo will ever return to its rightful owner.
ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE (perhaps reality in this universe): “TURKEY ALLOWS U.S TESTS OF F-35 SAND F-22 STEALTH BY ATTEMPTING TO TRACK THEM WITH ITS S-400 SYSTEM OPERATING IN MIDDLE EAST: REPORTS
Lol, do you see how easy it is to get u guys amped up? You are so willing to be manipulated that u cant even Fathom that there is a WHOLE other side to this! Do u read between the lines? EVER?
Who is testing who?
Is the S-400 testing against the F-35?
OR
Is the F-35 testing against the S-400?
Turkey (US ally) will be the nation to know first! However im sure Russia and the US will too!
So realistically it could be the opposite to how this article manipulated u!
Do u see how easy that was?
Yet on planet earth we have seen israel (a nation i hate more than any of you guys) easily kill and destroy Iranian and Syrian bases that are totally within Russian S-400 systems!
And those damn US cruise missiles too! Didnt they hit airbases?
Hasnt Israel just been bombing at will?
i mean u guys just eat anything up when its fed to u! None of u come here with an open and unbiased opinion! its just all Full stick one way traffic! bascially u all come here to just fuckin wine and bitch and cheer lead when its your side who appears to kick a goal!
None of u would make good leaders! because u are not willing to accept the “what if”!
ud all be dead because u were told “DERRR, southfront said the S-400 detects the stealth so we are 100% safe DERRR… reports say Derrrr F-35 was a lemon Derrrr”
The Ottomans show themselves to be tough and fearless, but in reality they are afraid of everyone, starting with their NATO allies.
Can you blame them?
When UK collapse the Danes will buy the leftovers and join them into EU again:)
Well – not. We are not Osman and has a women as Premiereminster.
No,There will be The commonwealth to see to the final nails in the eu-epp coffin!
Hong kong has just about been sorted by the way,seeya soros/cia/eu-epp/incest:
We will see.
Maybee You should fokus at Your own problems. It seemes liras will be replaced with mini dollars. Rials might do it as well.
If the non devellopment zone of Yours continue like that, the tallest newcommers max will be 150 cm. Having chairs will make no sense.
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Considering the Ralph Peters map and FUKZUS support of Kurds, no.
Thats why they use janasaries who are the kidnapped children of the conquered whos balls are cut off and then mind washed into being brave soldiers.. worked for a long time…
Thats highly incorrect. All Turkish men in the Osmans was educated as soldiers and the non Turks paid for it by extra tax. The Ottoman Empire sis as the other Empires using a lot of Mercenairy troops incl. Chritian ones and they did make the famous Arriere Guarde named Janishars.
Janishars was not Eunuks and kastracted. They also wasnt only slaves but the clever ones also got high ranked positions and was rewarded with land at their pension, where many also made children.
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Recruting changed during time. Many times it was no kidnapping some poor ones already having 10 children let their little son go to food, pay and education instead of starvation.
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It seemes the Janishars was made because Turks mainly was very good fighters at horsebag. Janishars was 20.000 …
I didn’t know they were castrated! Are you sure? I know they weren’t allowed to marry but I think they had balls though. Can you show me where you saw this please.
They wer not. Eunuks was – or most of them was.
The Eunuchs weren’t. They were black and chosen as such so that if they misbehaved the resulting child would be obvious as a result . Both were then put to death. Above you comment that people learn crap and don’t bother to learn the truth. Seems you do exactly that. Sucked into the myth of Eunucks being castrated.
He is lying…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janissaries
What are you talking about. The Janissary population was at most 50,000 (in 1710), removed in 1826. Britain collected only one million soldiers from Egypt. I’m not even counting India. Trawling of information at primary school level.
So many here not even know their own history even Internet is free. They learn crap swepped in sauce by nationalisme of the worst kind only.
1-Their balls were not cut off ffs…. They are just simply not allowed to marry. The reason behind that was to keep them dedicated to the duties. Having a family creates (naturally) doubts about the duty in military or non-military sections. This was corrupted during the last eras of janissary institution.
2-By definition it is kidnapping, yes. I am quite sure that there is an image on your mind something like “evil muslim invaders separating children from peaceful christians”. I am sorry to destroy that image but, NO! Most of the families gave their children willingly! If you think that Balkans were prosperous are that is wrong. Giving their child to them meant saving their future for most of them, because there was a possibility that they may get ranks in the administration. Of course, some of them did not want to give their child, that is a fact. You as a person who has ideologies think that this is pure evil, but for simple folks, this was just an opportunity for their child.
3-They did not just collect children when they conquered a region. Almost all janissaries were chosen boys by their intelligence, strength etc. That is why they were the elite troops and administrators.
4- They are not brainwashed, most of them knew where they came from, what was their original religion etc.
8 year old thinking–yugoslavia was quite prosperous, little unemployment, universal health care, excellent education
Who talks about Yugoslavia exactly?
the turks have been defeated in many wars, however they are considered to be capable soldiers. Rather than attempting to create good relations w their non Turk speaking neighbors—Greece, Burgaria, Georgia, Armenia, Iran, they support ethnic cleansing by Azeris, ethnic cleansing of clans in Libya by using their US ISIS proxies—as they do in Syria…they have bribed the EU into spending billions to prevent Syrians from flooding into Europe—no crystal ball needed; this bumbling incompetence cannot succeed
Please show me the army not defeated in battle. Poland’s union with Belarus and burning Russia, the Afghan and Chechen defeat of the Russians, these men only fought in the mountains. The Chinese were captured by smaller populations. The British say to the peasant Americans, the Americans have collapsed in Vietnam. The Turks do not say we are invincible, but show me another nation that has established a state everywhere from China to Mongolia, India, Europe, Africa and Arabistan.
The orange turkey is not going to like it.
So what are the results?
Easy: They will hit the easy ones and some of the clever ones.
In the other hand there already are improvements made, so more jets might come through and fx the semi stealth by the F35s.
Its an everlating upgrading as well as how many places there are that kind of defence. Some few isnt enough. Turks already has an airdefence system, so this is a supplement as well.
I assume it worked just fine even in the case of f35s and they prefer to keep mum on the result in order not to upset their nato-brethren.
Probatly a good idea with low profile.
Of course they use the best they have for testing. Realisme is better then symbolisme.
Erdogan only cares about turkey, he might be a NATO “ally” but after the 2016 coup attempt by the CIA certainly not a US ally, he’ll just try to appease them here and there but ultimately he’s in it for the gains at least it’s the way i see it
Reducing things to that makes no sense.
Erdogan and AKP systematicly has made themselves to enemies and non friends all around them.
I can go back to the negosiations about joining EU more and more. Here it was decided by AKP to do the opposite. Since then Turkey has been opposite.
It was USA which took them in and also partly armed them well. That was because USSR was a threat for Nato as well as Turkey.
Thats gone now. Russia is reduced to its correct seize and declining.
Russia declining? LOL! Did you stop reading 20 years ago? The only reason Russia has not expanded is that Putin does not have imperial ambitions. If he did, all Ukraine E. of the Dnieper would be part of Russia now, and the rest would be a neutral buffer having been soundly defeated militarily in 2014-2015.
Something is wrong with Your microskope.
Something is wrong with your meds…
Russia is stronger than ever.
Only declining us in the EU and U.S.
V4 should live the EU like the UK.
Southern states should leave the U.S. as well.
u express more stupidity each comment—while your extreme poverty has doubled in only a decade, Russia zero—Arhaus is a village of addicts and homeless—I don’t observe homeless in Russia–not even Ukraine…your insecure tuborg brain requires a fresh battery–too much hashish I surmise
true–he should care about his own nation…unfortunately his domestic policies have failed—causing the lira to decline by 14% in the past few months–rampant unemployment, censorship, increasing resistance by Kurds. His foreign wars in Libya, syria and now apparently support for SA in Yemen is expensive and counterproductive….the rural turkey fundamentalists support Erdogan—AKP lost the election in Istanbul…turkey needs Kemal Attaturk–a brilliant leader…it seems that Erdogan is quite myopic…he is digging himself a grave that may require 2 decades of reversals …I am not a prophet; I suspect many Turks are becoming more and more dissatisfied
Turks are being roasted by Arabs and kurds.Turkish soldiers are returning in body bags from Libya,syria,iraq and eastern turkey.Either turkey will collapse or erdogay will resign :)
That makes no sense and is not true if You compare others having losses too.
…or natozioyankeestan puts in a new vassal who will do as he is told?
I hope the chinese soon will take over, so You blame them instead of us. They probatly will blame You for the same as we do.
Maybee the chinese Jews will come from Hong Kong and Taiwan:)
Most of the couple of thousand Jews in HK are ex pats who work there in the financial district. Never ever saw a Jew in HK but apparently there were around 2,000 but not one was Chinese. .
Their normal way of doing things. When the US won The Philippines back they flew in their selected Filipino leader who had been in exile . He didn’t work out and was quickly deleted and a new one that followed the rules installed. It has been that way ever since with the choice being between 7 very corrupt families until Duterte upset the apple cart . Wonder why he and the US don’t get on. Vietnam was the same , Iran , South American countries Operation Gladio in Europe that bombed train stations and Airports blaming it on Communist groups so the people would vote in right wing parties.
Exactly . Gladio was a disgrace and proof we are ruled by an American ” Protection Racket ” and their local collaborators.
Yep,good old fuck ups usa pertains is to blame communists,cia/nwo/incest trick:
Hence,left this,left that,lefty,bla’bla = Either a cia trolls or boxheaded low iq flogs!
No big deal ,natozioyankeestan have already tested the s200 in Greece so probably know much of the limitations of both aircraft and the AA itself.
Wont these ” tests ” allow the ZioAmericans to see which frequencies the radars operate on and how they see US fighters ? Cant that information then be used to adjust countermeasures ? I thought the only reason Russia doesn’t turn on the s-400 in Syria is so that the US wont be able to see its radar ” signatures ” . How is this any different ?
There is no countermeasures against it.
Aside from that Turkey only got a dumbed down version.
Even that is good enough to defeat the Craptor and the Flop-35.
The S-400 is so advanced most people don’t even realize it.
You show Your low level well again. Too often You only write, what You hope.
The Israelian F35 already has been upgraded with some kind of “counter”.
Like matzo ball missiles and dreidel bombs…
Oy gevalt…
Other systems are in place for those ‘israeli ‘countermeasures.
” The S-400 is so advanced most people don’t even realize it. ”
But thankfully you do ?
Indeed, I’m one of the few non experts who do…
I’m also very humble :)
Thats why there are do many kind of spyes around the world. Turks will get the standard version only.
So ? isn’t the standard version of the s-400 better then the Domestic version of the s-300 ?
I was not comparing anything at all. I just tell they dont get the secrets, so they can copy produce it well.
And yes, the s400 seemes to be a good upgrade of the s300.
I wasn’t talking about copying it, but examining the way it works and how US planes show up on the system. That’s very valuable information.
There are upgraded 300 systems that are batter than standard 400.
Why would Turkey buy the s-400 then ?
It’s all a 400 system really is, upgraded 300…for the most part.
Must admit to smiling.
Smiling is always good, :)
Erm what is the best system though…
S-300V4, S-300PM2 or S-400?
Which systems are optimized for what?
The Grizzly system BUK SA-17 has never been conquested. Not even in Holland.
But… But… F22 and F35 supposed to be invisibly invisible for dirty Russian radars.
Its the first time for decades I see Erdogan smile on a photo. Wtf are you smiling at Erdogan??
The chopped Melania’s head out of the photo
;-) I think its because the S-400 is finally in service.
Too bad it isn’t a Chinese system then I could read stories on FOX with Pompeo screaming that it is uploading data to China using Tic Toc.
Really don’t agree with Russia selling these to the Turks, they’re untrustworthy and are only stirring-up trouble in the region.
the incompetent Israeli iron dome that fails to intercept katushas from Gaza celebrated by the Russian rock collectiv—Gaza Sektor, r superior to ameikan products—the S 500 the best…the s200 shot down 2 Israeli f16 in Syria…WWII vintage. only US colonies buy amerikan weapons after the US govt gives them many to perpetuate the US military dictatorship…something bugs bunny now comprehends
Usa made an ammendments to their defense spending policy which allows to purchase s400 systems from turkey,it’s suggested to make amends with turkey?
now everybody knows, that “stealth” is a tale for the kids.