Turkey Is Trying To Convince Hayat Tahrir al-Sham To Disband Itself – Report

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Turkey Is Trying To Convince Hayat Tahrir al-Sham To Disband Itself - Report

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The Turkish intelligence is trying to convince Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) to disband itself in order to prevent a large-scale attack ин the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) on the opposition-held areas in northern Syria, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) reported on August 30.

According to the UK-based monitoring group, HTS’ leadership is refusing any peaceful solution and insisting on fighting till the end. However, the Turkish intelligence has not given up yet and it is still negotiating with the radical group.

A source familiar with the situation in northern Syria told the SOHR that the SAA and its allies have deployed tens of thousands of soldiers and around 2,000 armored vehicles around the opposition-held areas. The SOHR noted that this large force includes hundreds of former Free Syrian Army (FSA) fighters, who have reconciled with the Damascus government.

Some Syrian pro-government activists said that the SAA will launch its attack on HTS and its allies in the upcoming hours. However, this is not likely. Other sources believe that the attack will not begin before the Russian-Turkish-Iranian summit, which will be held on September 10 in Tehran.

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  • FlorianGeyer

    Turkey needs to Get off the Fence and use her troops to arrest those terrorists and advisers who are fabricating the False Flag Chemical Terror attacks. Turkey has the troops on the ground in Idlib and the ability to do that.

    It would also pull the American Rug from underneath the Wahabi Table and encourage them to leave Syria and go back home to their masters in US Coalition countries :)

    If Turkey does not do this ,the Wahabi insurrection will be encouraged to spread inside Turkey ,so as to ferment a US regime change there.

    • Jim Bim

      The only thing Turkey has done with its 12 posts in Idlib, is to consolidate their occupation. 50 drones have flown over their posts toward the Russian base, without Turkey lifting a finger.

      • FlorianGeyer

        Yes, and now it is decision time for Erdogan.

    • potcracker2588

      HTS are turkeys brothers u idiot…..the whole power of erdogan lies with the islamists u moron…thats like turkey stabbing itself in the back donkey…….99% of islamist terrorists came through turkey to syria idiot….99% of wepons including the chlorine comes and came through turkey with direct help of turkish special services…morons here

      • jorge

        Pot, it’s not nice to call bad names to the others, please behave yourself, you begin to look like velociraptor.

        • Tudor Miron

          That’s his twin brother.

          • PZIVJ

            Have not heard from Gandolf / Raptorhead / Solomon in quite some time.
            If you keep track of the name changes. Perhaps he traveled to Siberia and got lost in your vast forest there :DD

          • Tudor Miron

            putinbeater is the new avatar that Solomoisha is using now. He’s easy to recognise. Obsessed with hatred and anger towards Russia but envy at the same time :)

          • PZIVJ

            I read some of putinbeaters replies to you.
            And was thinking, this is SolomonK again!
            He is easy to spot that way. LOL

        • Jens Holm

          His statement is correct. You honor and respect lies as truth by that. O am with him.

      • BL

        You could say that without cursing in every sentence. I’m sure you misunderstood FlorianGeyer, he’s on our side. He was simply saying Turkey should stop being a useful idiot of the Zionist West and should start cooperating with Syria fully.

        • Jens Holm

          I am like him in that. You dont have to be polite, when You are presented for the most dirty lies in a polite way.

          Even 80% is a vote for bad language.

        • gustavo

          Turkey will not stop being what it is: NATO member, terrorists supporter, smuggler of oil and industrial partos of Syria oil and factories, the land with USA nuclear weapons and basis, and enemy of Syria.

          • BL

            I tend to agree with you.

      • FlorianGeyer

        I realise that in the real world Erdogan wants to retain his money and his life. If the US wins he will lose both , ergo if the Wahabis win he will lose his life and his money. He is playing a balancing act but he cannot do this for ever.

        It would be rather nice if you were more polite Potcracker. You exhibit the trait of most Americans who shout a lot and have no wish to learn or understand that which they do not know or understand.

      • Mustafa Mehmet

        Thank you for the information you fucking moron now go and hang yourself stop making propaganda

        • Brother Ma

          Truth hurts doesn’t it turco-jihadist? i can’t wait to see Turco- jihadists torched and destroyed.

          • Mustafa Mehmet

            Ringo listen fuck the jihadists Including you I don’t give a shit about jihad is think about all civilians you gone gas them again .try harder to fine peaceful way to solution. You know you fuck with turkey Situation will get even worse

          • Brother Ma

            Shut your ugly face Mehmeti. The world is sick of you and your stinking country. Russia and Iran only need you now .The time will come and then they will finish you off. I will be clapping and smoking my nargileh and pleased you will be paying for your crimes.

          • Mustafa Mehmet

            Armenian idiot.wash your dirty Mouth with acid. piss off

    • Rob

      The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) are the UK spy agency MI6 recruiters. It is same propaganda team like White Helmets.

      • FlorianGeyer

        Yes , you are correct and he lives about 10 miles away from me :)
        It is ostensibly a One Man operation with a little help from MI5 and MI6 :)
        He was jailed in Syria for many years before he moved to the UK.
        He has a working class clothes shop as well.

        • PZIVJ

          Interesting, probably some large amounts of cash are deposited into his bank accounts from time to time. More than what his shop takes in. :D

          • Jens Holm

            And his hair too. Most sheep are brittish and from Texel.

          • FlorianGeyer

            Yes, I would think so. The Propaganda Business is Big Business :)

      • Helmut, IDLIB

        You accusations are wrong, #WhiteHelmets are working tirelessly, searching and rescuing, in unbelievable areas of destruction and death.

        • PZIVJ

          Perhaps many of them, but their group was infiltrated by the Jihadist to stage fake propaganda or even false flag attacks. :(

        • BL

          You’re on the wrong website terrorist rat

          • Jens Holm

            Thats how it is and well descriebed and accepted in the whole world apart from You in ME.

            But of course all civilians and soldiers amanog those Jihadistb all are terrorrists. You systematicly has plundred all help to them as well as even putting fields of thein fire incl. farmers.

            You certainly deserve less honour and respect then them in those matters.

            Next might be as usual. Assads has driven many 1000 civilians to Idlib and next probatly will be as heavy bombardments as possible.

            Ypou certainly are heros of the real regular ME kind. hip-hip.

            You even make our right wings in the west smile.

          • BL

            shut up kike

          • Empire’s Frontiers

            Jihadmin finally made his profile.

          • BL

            I’ve noticed they’ve been leaking into southfront lately

        • Marko

          Hell Mutt , huh ?

          That about describes it : Dogs that belong in hell.

        • Rob

          I have seen them that how they kill Syrian toddlers for fabricating stage footages. White Helmets team is a team of twisters. How that gonna be useful to Syrians that the team all members are from Israel. Which funded by US and UK and work for CIA, MI5, MI6 etc. Go and sell your lie at some other forum.

        • zman

          HAHAHAHA.

      • Jens Holm

        You could come up with something better.

        But You seemes to forget all is hidden in the dark besides very few sources.

    • matt

      You seem to forget that Erdogan is a fanatic Sunni as well…

      • Feudalism Victory

        No he isnt. Hes a typical power monger hes only in it for himself. No doubt hes happy to use religon for his own power.

        • matt

          He is both

      • FlorianGeyer

        You really should stop your Identity Politics crusade Matt. An American friend of mine who was a senior US Military intelligence analyst during Desert storm spouted the same theme as you.

        He was amazed to learn that the SAA is majority Sunni.

        Erdogan is more gangster than statesman I agree but his religion has no bearing on that. Erdogan is loyal only to Erdogan and his life is dependent on Russian success in Syria.

        • Empire’s Frontiers

          Nailed it.

        • Brother Ma

          Wrong. I do not agree with Matt most times but he is right about Erdogan bieng a fanatical Sunni Moslem ,like Gulen!

          If your American Intelligence friend did not know SAA is majority Sunni then he is a retard. That is info that anyone with half a brain can find out by reading any number of geography books. No wonder moat people think that the US is led by cutthroats and retards.

        • matt

          Not agreed, he came from the turkish muslim brotherhood….
          I don’t know what you mean with “Identity Politics crusade”. Most of you guys seem to love the nation state of Syria under the baathist rule of the Assad clan, so in a way you all support a certain identity, namely the so called secular arab nationalist baath ideology

          • FlorianGeyer

            It may have escaped your attention Matt but Syria is a secular society with literally thousands of years residence by all prominent religions.
            The allies of FUKUS are not.

          • matt

            Well the kurds are one of the native tribes. Most of them were arabized and/or turkified. Just as the britons changed into anglo saxons

          • Brother Ma

            Kurds were never native to Syria.

          • matt

            for more then a milenium

          • Brother Ma

            Still not native. Bulk of Syrians are an amalgam of Canaanites and Helleno-Romans. Then a few Arabs THEN came the Kurds. Johnny-come-lately’s at best.

            Read your history or stop spreading propaganda.

          • matt

            not true

      • viktor ziv

        Turks are not Arabs. Also Arabs don’t like them due to the fact the Turks spreaded word of Muhamed all over the Mediteran and Arabs failed to do the same (jealousy).

        • matt

          You don’t know shit about islamic history! It was the arabs that controlled spain, malta and sicily…

          • viktor ziv

            so u imply people in Spain, Malta and Sicily are Muslims? I wrote about spreading Islam not only conquering.

          • matt

            So, wich countries around the Mediterranean are muslim today because of turks??

            turkey, PERIOD

          • viktor ziv

            Egypt, Libya, Morocco, Algeria, Tunis.

          • matt

            oooh, is that so? You know nothing about islamic history as i said

            Go read about it and discover how north africa was ARABIZED
            Ever heard of the Umayyad Caliphate? Abbasid Caliphate? Fatimid Caliphate?
            Mamluk Sultanate? Almoravid dynasty? Almohad Caliphate?

            I guess not, otherwise you wouldn’t have written that NONESENSE

          • viktor ziv

            Otoman empire did it. One thing is to conquer and other thing is to spread. So according to Your nonsense, chaliphat spreaded islam in the hearth of Europe (“only Turkey, period”). To avoid further explanatio Bosnia has majority muslims. Period.

          • matt

            you are a fool…..

          • viktor ziv

            Judging by yourself? I bet U could turn nations to islam in what, two generations and Otomans needed half millenium (aka 10 generations) to do the same. And U can build mosque in 50 years while otomans needed twice or more times. U’re not stupid but don’t take books for granted be more critical about it and do the math.

    • Rob

      https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XCxajmoD_po/V3ysfWMgmVI/AAAAAAAAGho/uWWgZz0hkwAt1AAJEs4At72AMaJtktkzgCLcB/s1600/1042422414.jpg

      Turkish President Erdogan and Syrian President Dr. Bashar Al-Assad both are united.
      Don’t follow MSM.

      Several meetings have taken place of the foreign ministers of Turkey, Syria, Iran and Russia together on the infiltration of US, UK, France and of their stooges in the Middle East region that creating chaos and instability in the region.

    • Rob

      https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XCxajmoD_po/V3ysfWMgmVI/AAAAAAAAGho/uWWgZz0hkwAt1AAJEs4At72AMaJtktkzgCLcB/s1600/1042422414.jpg

      Turkish President Erdogan and Syrian President Dr. Bashar Al-Assad both are united.
      Don’t follow MSM.

      Several meetings have taken place of the foreign ministers of Turkey, Syria, Iran and Russia together on the infiltration of US, UK, France and of their stooges for creating chaos and instability in the Middle East region.

      • Jim Bim

        No matter how many times you post this pic, it is still old, it dates back to before the conflict. The pic is before Erdogan let thousands off terrorist into Syria from Turkey, the pic is before Erdogan made billions of dollars by trading stolen Syrian oil with weapons with ISIS.

        • Brother Ma

          Very true!

        • Rob

          You scared from this picture. Benjanyahu will be soon admitted to hospital due to heart attack.

          • Jim Bim

            Sorry!! but you make no sense.

      • Jim Bim

        There you go, as i said, until today, Turkey supported HTS.
        https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/turkey-officially-adds-large-syrian-jihadist-group-to-terror-list-ahead-of-idlib-offensive/

        Here is a key line from the article.
        Russia has been pressuring the Turkish regime to eliminate the Hay’at Tahrir Al-Sham terrorists from the Idlib Governorate for several months now; however, they have often been reluctant due to their relationship with the jihadist group.

        • Rob

          You don’t update yourself then what we can do. Erdogan officially decalered that all HTS, Al-Qaeda, ISIS and PKK are terrorists.

          • Jim Bim

            You`r a stupid moron, thats exactly what i have written today, with a link. I tried for a couple of days to explain to you that Turkey supported HTS
            FIRST TODAY, TURKEY ABANDONED HTS….because of Russian pressure.

          • Rob

            Finally you fall to loose words.

          • Jim Bim

            No further comments, you`r stupidity is beyond repair.

    • Helmut, IDLIB

      There is no better cause for celebration than a thriving Muslims after capturing Idlib city. The holy holiday Eid is a time to give thanks and count the many blessings of our lives…. Ead mubarak ♡ #WhiteHelmets https://youtu.be/SA1wMqdVx4k?t=21m51s

      • don

        These people justified their murderous actions by saying “there are muslims being oppressed there” Now there is a base political ideology if ever there was one, and these are the “moderate jihadists” Fuck these people. Then later you have some fool saying that it was the Syrian government who instilled nationalism in them, as justification for their actions. Talk about incoherent lying nonsense.

        • Brother Ma

          There never were moderate jihadists. That was a propaganda label made up by fukus and it never worked. The people saw through it in the end.

      • Brother Ma

        Filthy headchopper of children and cur!

    • Rob

      https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XCxajmoD_po/V3ysfWMgmVI/AAAAAAAAGho/uWWgZz0hkwAt1AAJEs4At72AMaJtktkzgCLcB/s1600/1042422414.jpg

      Turkish President Erdogan and Syrian President Dr. Bashar Al-Assad both are united.
      Don’t follow MSM.

      Several meetings have been taken place of the foreign ministers of Turkey, Syria, Iran and Russia together on the infiltration of US, UK, France and of their stooges that creating chaos and instability in the Middle East region.

      • Brother Ma

        Not united at all. Enemies and only friends now because Assad wants Erdo to get rid of turco jihadists and Russia has told Assad to be friends to the Turks FOR THE MOMENT.

      • zman

        Erdo is no friend of anyone. If he was so into the whole Russia/Iran/Syria thing, why would chlorine be coming in through Turkey? Why does Turkey continue to support and is now trying to save HTS? Why do UAVs continue to attack the Russian base from HTS area? Erdo controls these groups or at the very least has control over their supplies. He straddles the fence so he can hopefully end up with the ‘winners’, whoever they might be. He continues to destabilize the area with his backstabbing ways.

        • Rob

          ISIS and Al-Qaeda are creation of US and UK. Both perform their covert operations under the command of CIA, MI5 and MI6. US and UK cannot provide any weapon or soldier to Al-Qaeda or to ISIS through Turkey because US and UK have no military base or any institution in Turkey. They use Al-Jawf military base in Saudi Arabia and military bases in Kurdish areas.

          • zman

            We all know who created ISIS. We also know who stoIe everything they could get their hands on…from complete factories to hospital supplies and everything in between. That same country aided and abetted the western cabal in stealing oil as well and called for Assad to be removed. Now they are wanting to save their pet terrorists-HTS. Since these terrorists were relieved of their heavy weapons, where did they get replacements after arriving in Idlib? The Kurds? Turkey is going to regret Erdo in the near future…if not sooner.

        • Rob

          Benjanyahu: for your information The Turkish President Erdogan has more than hundred friends including Syria, Iraq, Iran, Egypt, Libya, Sudan, Pakistan, Russia, China, North and South Korea and Japan. Turkey has trade, diplomatic, military and economic relations with many countries. Go and see the embassies in Turkey. While no body recognize Israel that it is a country or a joke only US, UK and France recognise it because they have created this terrorist organisation like ISIS, Al-Qaeda, SDF, YPG, YPJ, PKK, HTS etc etc.

          • zman

            I have no idea what your post is supposed to mean. Just because Turkey has relations with other countries does NOT mean he(Erdo) has friends. He is not to be trusted, period. When it comes to ISIS, Turkey was right there on board, first in to rape Syria every way they could.

    • Brother Ma

      All correct however Turkey will always try and slip out of doing this as she was the one who armed,trained and nursed these curs on behalf of FUKUS.
      In addition, HTS and all the other Turco- jihadists were doing Turkey’s evil deeds and achieving its objectives. Why would Turkey want to lose what it has gained by disbanding its army and leaving witnesses to talk?

      • FlorianGeyer

        Witnesses that include FUKUS as well of course.
        Erdogan is in a deep hole full of lies.
        His lies. :)

    • zman

      What Turkey needs to do and what it will do are probably two different things. Erdo should have gone whole hog on the side of Syria/Russia/Iran after his ‘coup’. I do not trust this A-hole at all. He’s like a TV actor playing the part of a backstabbing self-centered megalomaniac. Nothing he says is straightforward or honest, every move a deception. With the chlorine coming in through Turkey, what is one to believe? He continues to play his own game, regardless of consequences. He is a terrorist himself and that will not change. He has no intention of getting HTS to ‘disband’, he just wants them to scatter and survive for his future use. Turkey has been the major recipient of stolen goods and the primary enabler of aggression towards Syria. His only usefulness is being a spoiler. Putin is no fool and Erdo plays with fire. Hopefully he will burn entirely and not just get singed.

  • Jim Bim

    Disband it selv….to where? these are hardcore terrorists. The ones that survive the upcoming battle, should be incarcerated on an island or closed area and await their trial and prosecution. No one should be allowed to come back to society.

    • BL

      No incarceration, it would be a waste of food and resources. I prefer a much cheaper alternative that they were hoping to inflict on the rest of Syria.

      • Jim Bim

        I agree, but according to international law, you are prohibit from killing combatant who surrenders. But for terrorists, they should make an exception in law.

    • Jens Holm

      More like the 11 mio. peacefull ones should take over.

    • Brother Ma

      True about never coming to society. I say torch them all. All the rest ,chained breaking rocks and on bread and water.

      • Jim Bim

        Fully agree.

  • potcracker2588

    ALLLLLLLLLlll BULLSHIT TALK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    turkey to convinve who about what??? LOLOLOL get Al-Quaida to dispand itself?? LOLOLOLOLOLOL

    turkey to convinve their islamist brothers lol… that turkey that allowed HTS to flowrish in the first place??? LOLOL great laughing…..and russia to convince turkey??? LOLOLOL that russia that allowed turkey to invade in syria in the first place LOLOL

  • Rob

    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XCxajmoD_po/V3ysfWMgmVI/AAAAAAAAGho/uWWgZz0hkwAt1AAJEs4At72AMaJtktkzgCLcB/s1600/1042422414.jpg

    Turkey support FSA and FSA are allied with SAA against HTS and ISIS. The foreign ministers of Turkey, Syria, Iran and Russia I have seen in several meetings together.

    • Jim Bim

      Nice try, but thats an old pic. Some FSA surrendered in the battle of the south and reconciled with the Syrian government, some even joined the Syrian army. But most of the FSA fighter, the hard core, where transported to Idlib to fight along HTS and all the other hard core jihadists.
      Show proof of the meetings between Turkey and Syrian FM….not old pics.

    • Tommy Jensen

      Once there were warriors…..
      Erdogan using HTS as stopvalve against Kurdistan East?

  • Feudalism Victory

    No matter what turkey says the sharia law fanatics cannot be left alive to attack elsewhere.

  • Empire’s Frontiers

    We were talking about this very thing a few months ago.

    http://disq.us/p/1t8k46y

  • Empire’s Frontiers
  • MH370

    al qaeda disband or not
    war is coming to idlib….. no other choice
    because after that more bloodier war is coming against the super power itself
    if assad abandon idlib.. he will be seen as a weaken leader.

  • Keep up the good work, Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham.
    Stay strong and fight – your virgins are waiting in anticipation.

  • gustavo

    The offensive must start right away. Turkey must go back home, and its terrorists will be destroyed by Syria-Russia-Iran-Hezbolah forces. The very interesting situation to see is the Russia position on the battle, will Russia help ground troops to attack Turkish ? will Russia help ground troops to attack kurds ? will Russia protect ground troops against USA-NATO attack ?
    Oh my soul, this is becoming more complicated than ISIS ? However, if Russia decides to support and protect strongly ground troops with its aerospace force, there is not doubt that victory is at hand and fast.