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Turkey And Russia To Conduct Live-Fire Exercises In East Mediterranean

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Turkey And Russia To Conduct Live-Fire Exercises In East Mediterranean

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On September 3rd, Turkey issued two new navigational telex (or Navtex) alerts in the Eastern Mediterranean.

The Turkish and Russian navies will conduct live-fire military drills in the area.

Turkey, a NATO member country, will carry out exercises with Russia.

The announcement advises sailors not to enter the drilling zone and in areas where ships are conducting research, Turkish Naval Forces Hydrography and Oceanography Department said in a statement.

According to naval alerts, Russian forces will conduct two separate shooting exercises on both sides of Cyprus island.

The two-phased Russia’s shooting exercise in the eastern Mediterranean will take place from September 8-22 and the other from September 17-25.

Issued by the Turkish navy’s Office of Navigation, Hydrography and Oceanography, navtex number 1102/20 announces exercises for September 8-22 covering an area south of Kastellorizo where the Turkish seismic survey vessel Oruc Reis is currently active, but which is outside the Greek continental shelf and Athens’ jurisdiction.

The second navtex – numbered 1103/20 – is for live-fire Russian exercises from September 17-25 off the coast of Cyprus in an area where Turkey’s Barbaros seismic survey vessel is active.

Nicosia has issued notices to airmen (notam) in response to the navtex, which came shortly after the United States announced the lifting of an embargo for non-lethal weapons on Cyprus.

The embargo in question was imposed by the US back in 1987, in the hope that it could encourage the reunification of the island.

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo informed Republic of Cyprus President Nicos Anastasiades of the change in a phone call on September 1st.

From October 1, the US will remove blocks for one year on the sale or transfer of “non-lethal defence articles and defence services”, the State Department said.

Pompeo also “reaffirmed US support for a comprehensive settlement to reunify the island”, according to State Department spokeswoman Morgan Ortagus.

President Anastasiades welcomed the lifting of the embargo, saying that it was a “positive” development “reinforce[d] the bilateral security relationship” between the two countries.

Turkey, however, immediately condemned the decision.

“It poisons the peace and stability environment in the region,” the Turkish foreign ministry said, adding it does “not comply with the spirit of alliance” between the US and Turkey.

If Washington did not reverse course, the ministry said, “Turkey, as a guarantor country, will take the necessary decisive counter steps to guarantee the security of the Turkish Cypriot people, in line with its legal and historical responsibilities.”

Both Greece and Turkey have staged naval drills in the area to assert their sovereign claims. Meanwhile, the European Union – which counts Greece and Cyprus as members – warned Ankara on August 28th to pull back or face sanctions.

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Dick Von Dast'Ard

Presumably the Russian navy will be live-firing (for the present times) in the general direction away from RAF Akrotiri?

Sauron

Russia taking sides in Mediterranean issue? hmmm, interesting

mhtsaropinigitakis

not really.. they are doing it with the permission and approval of Greek Cypriots ofc. they are pretty good Friends

Sauron

Russia needs Greek permission to conduct exercises in international water? hmmm, interesting

Dick Von Dast'Ard

I’d say the Russians are getting two messages across…
1. Turk Stream. (TurkStream 2?)
2. Vulnerabilities of the British in the Med.

HiaNd

Turk Stram2 while even Turk Stream 1 is not finished?!!!

Turk Stream is built on mutual interest for fuck sake!
Why don’t you people keep repeating like Russia is indebted to Turkey to the grave when that is something that is built in MUTUAL interest?!
From Russian gas exports Turkey receives money by doing nothing.
FUCK the UK they are non existent power !

Dick Von Dast'Ard

Totally misinterpreting what I posted sunbeam…
My point was that Russia has ready-made alternative options for it’s export transit routes and the volumes of said exports.

HiaNd

Good to know
This is the last time I read your hag wash riddles where you pretend to say one thing than you claim to say something totally different

Again,FUCK the UK they are non existent power !

Dick Von Dast'Ard

I guess I’m not going to riddle out of making a reply then?

HiaNd

appreciated

JIMI JAMES

The stage is being set for brexit as you ought know cyprus was,is commonwealth
not neo/nazi/cia unions!Traditionally the soviets were doing better untill cia/usa!

HiaNd

They do not “need ” anything from anybody, it is diplomatic gesture.
Cyprus is by far the most friendly EU country towards Russia.
And Russia takes care to let them know that they appreciate that.
Greece is not even close when it comes to relations with Russia.

Sauron

not my words so can’t really respond to what you wrote. but you are welcome to the person who wrote about the permission.

HiaNd

OK if that was from newspapers than it should be explained

If you have any doubts in content of my words read Greek “mhtsaropinigitakis” comment
They know everything about Cyprus Greeks …

Sauron

its that comment im talking about, not a newspaper. so u welcome to respond to him/her. I don’t know what you are sure about, but Kremlin doesn’t care about what me, you, or anyone in this comment section is sure about. its the geopolitical wind, today it blows this way tomorrow another way. as long as it keeps blowing

HiaNd

Russia is not weather rooster (or US) to change directions and policies all the time.
They have clear strategies, operate on known principals and have usual allays.
And if there are radical changes and “geopolitical winds” they mostly affect imagination of the people like you.
Not the positions or directions of Russia

Sauron

So tell me more about the unchanged position of Russia and its “allay” (its ally btw) Ukraine. I want to know more about my imagination change after 2014:))))) You must think they are still lovey dovey:))))

HiaNd

Russian position was ALWAYS the same even towards that Neo-Nazi by color revolution imposed government !
They have ALWAYS kept repeating that Ukrainians and Russians are brotherly nations with the same roots (which is historic fact) !

Yet they were systematically rejected by those same Neo-Nazis who didn’t stop till they have cut absolutely all the ties with Russia!
And they have even started with the Ukrainian sanctions even though they were 100% dependent on Russian market and Russian investments!

By your example you just confirm that you don’t have clue how consistent and unchanged Russian position always was!
Go do your homework and try to speak some sense next time.

Hard Hawk

now you are asking him to do the impossible.

HiaNd

When I read his comment I do ask myself what is “possible”
Putin is almost hated in his own country for his very moderate approach in which war is always last of all possible options
He is often accused of being soft in Donbass for not stepping in by using Russian military force.
Yet on the other side there are these geniuses that accuse Russia for adventurism and changing the objectives and principals on which they operate as totally inconsistent country and policy?!
And that is TOTAL NONSENSE since Russia even exaggerate in their attempt to be respectful on the agreements and rules of engagement .

The best example is Idlib, Syria and agreement with the Turks.
Where Russia hopelessly almost, tries to push Turkey, towards respecting their part of the agreement.

Now this genius tries to accuse Russia for opposite?!?
WTF is happening here?!?
Every asshole has an “opinion” with no proves or argument!

Hard Hawk

saying that Russia is helpless it is not very realistic. Is one thing to have done what they did in the name of their national interest and building turkey as they do and another to be what you are saying. I dont disagree with many things you saying but Russia to be hopeless and not the one who initiated, what is happening in Syria is not very realistic and can be said is bias.

In any case I very rarely bother what I can not change myself. Just waiting for the big party to begin and the guns to be free. Then I will take a side maybe but I will definitely go hunting. and defend my territory. The rest is not my business unless someone put me and mine in danger.

HiaNd

Russia to be hopeless and not the one who initiated, what is happening in Syria is not very realistic and can be said is bias.

OK…not sure to understand you completely
Russia has zero influence over Turk sponsored terrorists and even less over HTS-Al Qaeda terrorists.

Are you saying that what is happening now in Syria 100% part of Turk-Russian agreement and that all those “incidents” created by terrorists (supported covertly by Turks) are something that was intended and planned to happen this way?!

And the Russo-Turk inability ti implement patrols on M4 road are actually part of some secret agreement and not part of Turk cheating that permits to terrorists to act like that?

Hard Hawk

I understand you are very pro Russian and I do understand this to be your inability to accept facts as they are and evaluate them with out taking sides. I dont intent to either convince you of anything or get into a senseless argument. What the Russians did in Syria stopped not once the SAA to free their country, saved turkeys mercenaries and relocate them all to idlip beside arranging for the turkish army posts all over the place, it was not for the benefit of Syria but their own national interest, when they open the door to the turks to come into Syria .

As for the terrorists are not supported covertly by the turks are actively supported and openly. Not only in Syria but also Libya and in both countries also against both Syrians and Russians. If you can not see facts is only because you are consciously using selective memory.

HiaNd

Your explanation is not true one because not complete.

It is more like observation and that arriving on conclusions you (I presume) consider logical.
For true explanation is missing what was the motive (let alone proves)for Russia to go that far and do those favors to Turkey?
Turks are still in NATO and they still support anti-Russian terrorists even when indirectly like those from HTS-Al Qaeda.
Just don’t tell me that Russia is now supporting even those Al Qaeda terrorists because I would never buy that.
For the rest I would love to know what is your take , what is the logical explanations for selling out Syria and I suppose that even naval exercises you see as clear Russian siding with Turks and not bad timing coincidence.
Why now and why against the Greece of all NATO countries?

Hard Hawk

out of respect I will answer your naive questions you make to me. I like the spirit you write as well where your heart lays.

Russia is a player in the global game so her strategies and actions can not be based on what you consider logical. remember that truth is based on deeds one does and the results of them and not well wishing, or personal preferences.

What Russia did for turkey and the deals they have with them gas pipes as well nuclear reactors are under way and also what they negotiate to happen in Syria and not only Syria can not be disputed is a matter of fact.

I never said Russia not the government but the people there are hostile to Greece. That is your conclusion. Same as telling me that Russia supporting isis.

That the government of Russia the deals they make with the turks are against the national interest of Greece is not disputable. That in all areas turks and Russians are facing each other are hostile and on competition between them, is also a fact. As to why they do what they did or doing? One word for you, Globalization.

Now stop thinking that truth or fact is a matter of opinion and if you wish to have a serious conversation based on fact and strategy and not your well wishing or logic this is not the correct media to have that serious conversation and on the other hand I am not here to convince you but I dont mind discussing with any one based on fact and not opinion.

HiaNd

You are 16 days late in your comments !!
And you have posture of classic arrogant twat…I will not read your comment.
I am not interested any more.

Hard Hawk

i dont have the net in my high priorities I am too busy living.

HiaNd

Just go away.
If you had any decency you would not comment after 16 days (you are not that important that anybody needs your answer after 16 days) let alone taking attitude of arrogant cunt on top of it.

Hard Hawk

you have a big idea for yourself and not much to based it on.

Hard Hawk

you are confused kid what you reading do you have a comprehension problem or too busy what to answer you forget to understand what someone tells you?

Slow down and think before fingers.

HiaNd

Stop patronizing tone or I’ll fuck you off in jiffy, this is my first and last warning.

Unless you think that that stupid moniker gives you some kind of “I am dangerous look”
so you have to sound the same way.
You have been watching too many bad quality US movies.

Sauron

nope, you will not change the subject.
Tell me about Russian alliance with Ukraine before 2014 and after 2014, since you are saying “And if there are radical changes and “geopolitical winds” they mostly affect imagination of the people like you.” So tell me about the change in my imagination:))))

Hard Hawk

he did answer you r you intentionally thick or is your natural state?

Sauron

thanks, but no thanks. ill continue with him

HiaNd

There was no “change of subject” from my perspective.
You are one of those weirdos that take words out of context and keep building the conversation to the infinity…
I am done talking to you.
Just go away I have nothing else to tell you!

Sauron

ill take it as you agreed with my point. if you change your mind, im always here:))))

HiaNd

I had enough of your comments, think whatever you want like I care…
This place is overcrowded with people with failed imagination and “intuition” and finger in wrong place

Sauron

always happy to help with my point. anytime

HiaNd

you are everything but help

and hardly needed or useful to anyone

Sauron

awwww, don’t be upset. it will be fine. it is hard. denial, anger, depression, acceptance all are the stages that need to be gone through. but we will manage to defy your confirmation bias. lets do it mate, you can do it

JIMI JAMES

You only need to see how much crimea prospered,like fkn drr cia/junta fkhead!

JIMI JAMES

I know something you don’t but you gotta just figure it out(nose outta joint)

mhtsaropinigitakis

usually they ask the dark lord…but this time its was different

Mustafa Mehmet

approval of greek greek gypsy community ?who are they recomment image

JIMI JAMES

To be honest,they are acting like swingers in athens,fortunately not the south!

mhtsaropinigitakis

thats your home?

HiaNd

Since when military exercise is directly ‘taking sides”?
They could have agreed that long time ago before Greek-Turk incidents….so why would they not do that exercise if agreed beforehand?

Sauron

you asking me? wait ill whatsapp Vlad. will let you know when he responds

HiaNd

You belonging to the huge pile of 2 cent experts slinging your accusations and theories left and right based only on presumptions, premature conclusion and similar
I have seen tons of “opinions” like that here that were NEVER confirmed later on.
And nobody has ever stepped in and have said “I was wrong in what I have said”

Sauron

you are the best. well done bro

Hard Hawk

how you figured this out?

Sauron

intuition bro intuition, finger in the air, taste the wind

HiaNd

I would suggest that you put that finger elsewhere it would be maybe more useful
cause your finger works better than your “intuition” and bad imagination.
Russia was never hiding that they want Turkey out of NATO.
Now you and your”intuition” are trying to make some nonsense story out of that.
Russia would never take side on NATO Turkey side against NATO Greece:
Above all Russian population would never permit that.

Why would Russians get killed and start WW3 over the fight of 2 NATO countries anyways?

Sauron

I did put my finger in a very interesting place. check on my profile

AleK

Ewww dudeeeee, no one is interested in your profile, go finger yourself someplace else. Dammit!

Sauron

Deciding on behalf of others without asking them:))) Im glad you are true to yourselves. Over the border it is still illegal. hence enjoy Crimea sanctions on top with new Voldemort to be smashed soon. one after the other.

big lebowski

Hardly.

Just some attention whoring.

occupybacon

Thanks Putin

Paul

There is a secret collaboration between USA and Russia!

HiaNd

OK show us the “proof”?
You have pulled that info right now out of your filthy Indian ass; most probably.

Paul

You asshole.Have you seen how russia is deceiving Iran?Connect the dots idiot before commenting on my posts idiot

HiaNd

Fuck your posts and your crocodile tears you declared anti-Shia, pro American, pro-Turkey peace of shit!
You and “bacon” are one of the last people whose word and opinion I would take for granted!
You are just neocolonialist slave from India spreading propaganda for your Anglo-Saxon Master!
You have NO proof for your bullshit obviously so fuck off !

occupybacon

Since the cold war

HiaNd

YES !
Putin is about to win another mandate for Trump (unless evil witch Hitlery Clinton doesn’t stop that)!

Putin is controlling everything in US so they better surrender to Russia before it is too late for them !

Fog of War

Its more then just a collaboration with Russia. These wars and other ” distractions ” are all orchestrated with the cooperation of most of the world’s leaders. We are all being led towards a final goal that’s been in the planning for decades if not centuries.

Garga

After the Greek-Emirati drill, this one is quite telling, especially since it’s not done in the Black sea, where they share maritime zone boundaries.

Not only Turkey is not an Orthodox country (for fiends who think shared religion makes Russia to back Greece), it’s in NATO. A joint Russia-Turkey drill is not a small answer.

If Russia does something remotely similar with Greece, even with one boat, then we can say OK, they are neutral. They brought their toys played with both sides.

Otherwise their message is loud and clear: “Turkey is a part of Eurasian future”.

HiaNd

And what if persistent rumors of Turkey buying 40-50 of Su-35 is true?!
Wouldn’t that be an obvious sign after second batch of S-400 ordered from Russia that Turkey is on her way out of NATO membership !?
After 2 times buying “prohibited” S-400 and switching to Russian SU-35 jets it will be obvious to everybody that Turkey’s days of NATO are gone never to return!

And if Russia transfers some of their production of SU-35 to Turkey than Turkey will most definitely buy more SU-35.
So why on earth would Russia not offer a naval exercise to the country that will do something so important for Russia as braking up of NATO alliance?!

As for “light” aircraft replacement of F-16Turkey will go most probably to China to buy 100 jets with TOT “transfer of tech” + another 100+ jets produced in Turkey.

LeoSam

Would like to know what consentions the russians got from erdogan for that move. Its so blatant that is a needed move in order not to look too isolated and with out support to the interior public that is blinding.

Shadow

Great. Now it’s time to buy these beauties
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC_eJrElLNk

Servet Köseoğlu

when link-16 is working in our soil,no russian jets is option…(excellent jets by the way..it reminds me first i-phones as if su-35 is final design of all jets no more creation,prototype can exceed its beauty)

Shadow

How do greeks use mirage then?

Servet Köseoğlu

because of costs…french jets can be linked to link-16 with iff..

HiaNd

ANY source for confirming that video “news”?
40 of SU-35 is very big number….

I have found this (but no other word but “interested” ):

Aaron Stein, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council in Washington, said Turkey was actually interested in 54 Su-35 jets.

https://ahvalnews.com/turkey-russia/turkey-close-buying-russian-su-35-fighter-jets

Shadow

There are rumours in some Turkish sources but most probably we will purchase after the second batch of s-400s in 2021. If tensions escalate, it may be even earlier though.

Servet Köseoğlu

If tensions escalate, it may be even earlier though..reactive way of thinking which leads us to looser side all day-every day..shitloads of countries are against us and we are still waiting the tensions to escalate????…lets asume buying su-35,training pilots(night- trainings-rainy weather trainings etc)..it takes very long time to make them to go full-throtle..

Shadow

I also think we should buy immediately since f-35 is not an option anymore. It will take some time for our pilots to get used to it. Maybe they’re waiting for the right moment. Buying Su-35s will boost tension with our so called NATO allies.

Servet Köseoğlu

if we buy su-35….welcome CAATSA…

HiaNd

It is not about CAATSA but much bigger than that, about future and general strategy of the country.
If your leaders and your planners doesn’t have vision of Turk future than you have serious problem.

HiaNd

If the agreement is on than at least some of your pilots are already in Russia.
They have SU-35 simulators to train day and night to get as soon as possible into those jets and get sufficient number of flying hours.

To start their job as SU-35 instructors back home immediately once jets are ready for delivery. So it will be much faster process than some are imagining it

HiaNd

I do not know if you do realize how radical would be such move?!
After 2nd batch of S-400 buying 40 of SU-35 would be equal to good bye to NATO !
And if that happens I would not be surprised that Turkey than goes to China for shopping of “light” fighter as replacement of F-16 and buy them in big numbers with TOT (transfer of tech) to produce them in Turkey.

big lebowski

Why spend money needlessly.
The boss said TFX will be ready by 2023 ??

Shadow

You’re out of your element, Mr. Lebowski!

JIMI JAMES

Good move,albiet decent one,detterence is essential,putin is adult,to all the cia/war toy boys,too bad!

Trap Is Not Gay

Turkey is not to be trusted.

Turd brown countries (Muslims, India) do not have the human quality to get unconfortable by what the Jew does nor the character to stand against the Jew.

Icarus Tanović

Not Turkey, just Russia. And not as you pointing joint exercises. Check your sources.

cechas vodobenikov

recently analysts cast doubt regarding the gas discovered by turkey in the Black Sea….the quantity, quality is suspect and many believe turkey will require 7-8 years to acquire the capacity to extract this gas; while oil has increased to 46$ per barrel–more for Urals crude, gas prices r declining. turkey is locked into gascontracts w Russia and Azerbijiann

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