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Trump To Give China Until 2025 To Commit To Trade Deal

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Originally appeared at ZeroHedge

With 4 minutes to go before the close of trading and stocks within spitting territory of red for the day, someone had to take control of “price discovery” and with the FT’s street cred already used up after it’s “90% done” report last night, it was up to Bloomberg to preserve the “trade talk optimism” which it did when it reported fresh details on the ongoing trade deal being finalized (and we use the term loosely) between the US China, which according to Bloomberg source would give Beijing until 2025 to meet commitments on commodity purchases and allow American companies to wholly own enterprises in the Asian nation.

And here is where the “deal” gets downright farcical: according to the proposed agreement (and we again use the term loosely), China would commit by 2025 to buy more U.S. commodities, including soybeans and energy products, and allow 100 percent foreign ownership for U.S. companies operating in China as a binding pledge that can trigger retaliation from the U.S. if left unfulfilled.

In other words, any deal announced this week would be nothing more than a photo opportunity, and be completely toothless for the next 6 years. More importantly, as we noted earlier, the 5 years interval would allow stocks to levitate each and every day for the next 5 years on “trade deal optimism”, putting S&P 36,000 within grasp.

Other hilarious non-binding promises China has offered to implement by 2029 wouldn’t be tied to U.S. retaliation, Bloomberg’s sources said.

And now that a “bogey” for the 2025 target has been set, the talks are continuing in Washington where Chinese Vice Premier Liu He began planned meetings with U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin on Wednesday.

The goal over the next few days, Bloomberg reports, “is to strike an agreement on the core issues so President Donald Trump and Chinese leader Xi Jinping can hold a ceremony to sign a deal.” To achieve that, Lighthizer, Mnuchin and Liu held a working dinner Tuesday night, according to one of the people.

Trump To Give China Until 2025 To Commit To Trade Deal

In other words, some sort of announcement is practically assured; the only problem is that – thanks to the stated 2025 deal implementation target – this would fall of Trump’s second term (assuming he wins re-election), in other words both sides implicitly admit that any deal is a sham for all practical purposes, and all that would happen is to give markets a brief, last minute push higher, as the entire US-China trade war episode is put in the rear view mirror.

Of course, the White House is “careful” to avoid giving the impression that all Trump cares about now is the market reaction, and as such the posturing is one suggesting heated, complicated negotiations, when the reality is anything but with both sides eager to put this episode behind them:

As the talks resumed on Wednesday morning, Trump’s top economic adviser touted progress but cautioned that a final deal to end the trade war remains elusive. Negotiators are “making good headway,” White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow told reporters at an event in Washington. “But we’re not there and we hope this week to get closer,” he said.

The problem for Trump is that should he sign this joke of a “deal”, the blowback from both his core base and Democrats, which will both immediately see right through the hollow facade of the “deal”, would be violent. Bloomberg does not help by noting that “the limited time frame raises questions about how much a deal would reshape the longer-term economic relationship, rather than simply serve as a political win for Trump that would last through his potential second term as the 2020 election campaign kicks off.”

BBG adds that “while some progress is being made, resolving more contentious issues such as intellectual-property protection is taking longer.” Actually, if Trump signs this version of the deal, it virtually assures that there would be no IP protection at all and once Trump is gone, China will revert to its old “reverse engineering” ways.

That said, there is still some flickering hope that a deal would be more than just a photo opportunity, and its name is Robert Lighthizer:

The two sides are still haggling over how to enforce the deal, which Lighthizer has said is the fundamental issue in the talks. In congressional testimony in February, Trump’s top trade negotiator said the U.S. wants the right to take unilateral, “proportional” action against China if it fails to abide by the rules. A person familiar with the text said China so far agreed only to contemplate not to retaliate if the U.S. took action against Beijing, but stopped short of a formal pledge to refrain from counter-punches.

One final issues to be decided is what will happen to the tariffs the two sides have imposed on about $360 billion of each other’s goods in the past nine months. Trump has suggested that at least some of the tariffs will stay in place, saying they are necessary “for a substantial period of time” to ensure Beijing keeps up its end of the bargain.

And since Beijing has absolutely no intention to keep up its end of the bargain, look for this US demand to be quietly struck from the “to do” list of demands, as Trump is now just focused on one thing: how to get the S&P to new all time highs driven by the naive belief that it is the level of the S&P that will be critical in getting him re-elected, instead of being perceived by his core constituency as having folded promptly under Chinese pressure, an outcome which would almost assure Trump hands over the 2020 presidency to whatever socialist is running from the other side.

And with that, we sit back and wait for the 2025 round of US-China trade negotiations which will be led by Emperor for life (and death) Xi, and comrade Alexandra Ocasio-Jones of the American Socialist Democrat Party. We are confident they will be delightful.

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Hm, Zerohedge now becoming a bit more critical of their buddy Donald? ;)
But still the same neoliberal BS, with their usual Anti-China-bashing..
I dont know why you post their stuff here SF..


The US stock market has been in the doldrums since this trade war narrative started to be implemented, Wall Street is clamoring for lower interest rates and clarity of the US- China trade relations. Economic activity in the US is slowing down, the bull market has been in effect for the last 10 years, an economic slowdown and stock market correction is imminent. BS news about the state of the trade war might mollify the effects of market correction.

You can call me Al

I think China knows that, in 5 years the USA is a dead duck (God willing).

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