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JULY 2020

Trump Confirms: He Ordered Strike On Iran, But Then Called It Back


Trump Confirms: He Ordered Strike On Iran, But Then Called It Back

US President Donald Trump

U.S. President Donald Trump said that he ordered a strike on Iran, but then called it back when he learned that it could lead to a high number of casualties.

“We were cocked and loaded to retaliate last night on 3 different sights when I asked, how many will die. 150 people, sir, was the answer from a General. 10 minutes before the strike I stopped it, not proportionate to shooting down an unmanned drone,” Trump wrote on Twitter in the afternoon of June 21.

The U.S. President went on to say that he is “in no hurry,” and stressed that the tight sanctions on Iran will continue to prevent it from developing nuclear weapons.

“Iran can never have nuclear weapons, not against the USA, and not against the world!” Trump added.

The New York Times was the first to reveal that Trump had approved military strikes against Iran in retaliation for the downing of a U.S. surveillance drone, but called off the attacks at the last minute.

While Trump claims that the high number of expected casualties was behind his decision to cancel the strike, other factors may have played a bigger role in that shift. Iran vowed to respond to any attack by the U.S, which means that any strike was going to lead to a serious military confrontation in the Persian Gulf.

Trump’s vague statement doesn’t clarify if the U.S. has taken the military option completely off the table, or if it is now looking for a more limited response.

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  • RichardD

    This sounds like double speak to me. What my guess is that really happened. Is that he ordered preparations for a strike. Which happens all of the time. And then called it off before it actually started. Without ever having actually ordered it to start. There’s a big difference. You’d have to see the actual orders to know what really happened. And those are classified. I also don’t take Trump’s Twitter comments to be an accurate representation of the truth.

    If it did indeed happen as he claims. There would be a lot of unhappy people at the Pentagon responsible for calling back a strike in process on the other side of the world through the chain of command. I just find the whole episode to be a WWF style fake.

    • frankly

      This illustrates clearly how trivially we take starting wars. Some crazy guy takes a bit too much whiskey with his usual meds and we get WW III, he watches some click bait about golden retrievers and the world gets a reprieve. We are on a crazy path with fools, where we need our most capable.

      Of course the US would have us forget all about flight 655, the same way we forget the USS Liberty. After all 290 Iranians, including 66 children, probably deserve to die because their government disobeys our lord and masters, zio-neo- empire overlords.


      • Shy Talk

        well said

      • Zionism = EVIL

        Some of the excitable kids or retarded “adults” who post baloney here don’t have a clue what a large air strike package looks like and how it is organized, specially in a hostile airspace defended by capable opponents like Iranians. The idiot Trump has now conceded that there were NO PLANES IN THE AIR, like I posted after hearing the Americunt liars. Having over 30 years experience in various combat aircraft, once a strike sortie takes off with hot weapons it can not be recalled. In any case, the Iranians have very good radars like Kolchuga and even the phased array BVR radars from Jask and Bandar Abbas cover over 300 miles. Even a Cessna 152 taking off from Al-Dafra whore base would have been picked up in nano seconds and the Iranians with layered defences would have shot down most of the aircraft. From my experience even a F-4E with a full weapons suite with 16,000 lbs of ordinance is very sluggish and can be taken down by AAA as its maneuverability is largely reduced. The Americunts are hot air and don’t have any great aircraft that can evade a S-300 or the hundreds of Mach 4-5 Iranians SAMS like Khordad 3 and 15 systems. Iran also has S-400 or Bavar 373. The dumbass Americunts would have flown into a shitstorm of SAMS and AAA.


        Trump also discussed his decision-making process that led him to halt strikes on Iran on Thursday night, saying that he hadn’t given final approval to any attack and adding that no planes were in the air.

        Asked if planes were in the air, the president responded, “No, but they would have been
        pretty soon, and things would have happened to a point where you would
        not turn back, you could not turn back.”

        “Nothing was green lighted until the very end because things change,” Trump said during the interview with Todd.

        • RichardD

          I went back and looked at the NYT article that started this story about the called off attack. And they disagree with your version. They wrote that planes were in the air and ships were in position. But no missiles had been launched.

          “Planes were in the air and ships were in position, but no missiles had been fired when word came to stand down, the official said.”

          – Strikes on Iran Approved by Trump, Then Abruptly Pulled Back –


        • RichardD

          The NYT version is highly suspect in my opinion. I voiced skepticism about it from the beginning. Fighters carrying out airstrikes on Iran aren’t going to be circling in holding patterns waiting for launch orders. It’s less than 10 minutes to where they would launch from where they taking off from at alot of the bases near Iran.

    • frankly

      If nothing else this illustrates flakes at the helm!

      • Zionism = EVIL

        You are pretty smart rational guy. I have always believed that Americunts are all hot air and Iran simply called the moron Trump’s bluff. It is time to save whatever is left on the egg on Americunt ugly faces and get rid of Jew puppets like Pompeo and Bolton. US almost committed suicide, luckily the loudmouth idiot Trump chickened out as expected.

        • frankly

          Thanks. You too.

          With all the changes brought about by computers, the basic realities of military combat and the idiots running the whole show have evolved squat. We need to understand how psychopaths work and put them in a cage instead of in charge.

    • Oscar Silva Martinez

      The U.S. expected the other plane (with a crew of 35) flying along with the drone to be shot down too, but the Iranians didn’t take the bait.
      Of course The U.S military high command or whoever controls it, doesn’t give a fuck about sending their service men and women to be the bait and STILL there are too many idiots in their armed forces and in the civilian population who blindly believe in what the main stream media tells them every day.

      • RichardD

        If it had been an IAf plane they might have taken it down. But the US really hasn’t killed any Iranians in quite a while that I’m aware of.

        • goingbrokes

          Your mention of IAF just solved the mystery of the 35 onboard (well above the standard crew of 8-9). Wanna bet that there were about 25 Israelis onboard? Lol.

          • RichardD

            You may have a point.

          • goingbrokes

            I agree it seems small. Who knows, perhaps peace time activities only require a skeleton crew, and if things hot up more are added as necessary. I’m sure there is room for more than 8.

          • skinner15

            It is based on a Boeing 767-400, which can hold between 180-300 passengers.

            8 or 9 might be a normal crew size, but flying into Iranian airspace with a drone wouldn’t be a normal day at the office anyway.

    • Sinbad2

      There’s a headline at ZeroHedge that reads “We were cocked and loaded”
      Sounds to me like they were butt fkn each other.

  • Ayauhteotl

    This orange-tanned grotesque, figure
    lies without being ashamed. Where’s your conscience for yemen?!?

    As Sigmund Freud once stated: Lacking a sense of shame is the first sign of insanity.

    • goingbrokes

      The US elites lie as a matter of course, and they have no conscience activated at all – it’s all about power. Quoting Freud though, who was part of the jewish elites, to illustrate a point about lies and conscience, is a bit funny to say the least

    • Sinbad2

      He’s a narcissistic sociopath, and yes of course feels no shame.

  • RichardD

    I don’t think the the US cookie cutter standard limited military strike where nothing happens in return is an option with Iran. Because if you hit the Iranian homeland you’re going to get a proportional strike in return. And Iran has the escalation management resources to match US strikes far beyond the point where it becomes seriously disruptive to not only US forces in theater. But also the US and world economy. Which is going to result in not only a lack of support for what the US is doing by it’s allies. But a lot of opposition and lack of cooperation from them.

    • Wolfgang Wolf

      be sure the iranians will not stand still and not retaliate… this is wishful US thinking…

  • TiredOfBsToo

    “..how many will die. 150 people, sir, was the answer from a General.”

    Well, that’s a lie. It might be an opening salvo from the US regime, but it won’t end there. Iran is in a much better position militarily than it was when, after the ’79 revolution overthrew the US installed puppet of ’53, the US provided chemical weapons and military support to Iraq in it’s war with Iran. Since ’79 the US has been gunning for Iran and I’m sure Iran has made the proper preparations to ensure that when the US, goaded by war hawks, Wahabis and Zionists does strike, it will cost all of them much more than they could’ve ever contemplated.

    • Wolfgang Wolf

      the biggest misconception of the USidiots is to compare Iran with Iraq, which is totally wrong. Iranians are persians, crusaders, fighters. the Irakis are just stupid camelfuckers, coward arabs. … and the iranians had 40 years time to prepare for a war with US. they studied the desert storms and the operations in Afghanistan and took their knowledge home. so be sure they have nothing to loose if they defend their homeland against US invaders… burning and sinking aircraft carriers dont look good on CNN….

      • FlorianGeyer

        I would actually watch CNN to see the burning US carriers.
        Thinking about it, its a brilliant way to improve CNN’s ratings :)

      • Matz Mitz

        Persian are no longer exists, Iran now is islam terrorists camp dumb

        • Sinbad2

          They kicked out the American Government and have defied American aggression for 50 years, pretty good really. Vietnam and North Korea/China are the only other countries to defeat the USA.

          The good news is the US is almost done, and the payback by the whole world will be epic.

    • FlorianGeyer

      Trump said before his decision to attack, that ‘ he would attack at night to save Iranian Lives’ :)

      Is Trump so silly that he thinks that the Iranian air defence troops finish work before dark and start work again in the morning ?

      Or does trump think we are all silly enough to believe that shit?

      • Assad must stay (gr8rambino)

        lmao i know that was too funny

        • Zionism = EVIL

          Simple FACT is that Iranians called their bluff and the loudmouth braggart Trump chickened out. You simply can not turn around a mutli-plane strike package in mid air 50 kms from your intended target, especially when the Iranians have visual contact over such a narrow place as the Persian Gulf at Jask. You have to really admire the Iranian military for placing layered SAM systems at such a strategic location as Jask.

          • Assad must stay (gr8rambino)

            yes, the last comment you said to me seemed very pro-israel, i was wondering was your account hacked or something?

          • Zionism = EVIL

            Yes, my friend, some arsehole posts under my screen name and mostly argues with the other dumbass RichardD. It is obvious that I have a lot of fans. He was posting a lot of vulgar rubbish against Russia under my name too. Sounds like a sorry moron like Trump :)

          • Assad must stay (gr8rambino)

            i hope you have changed your password and secured your account

          • Zionism = EVIL

            The desperate arsehole is so enamored with me, that he he has created a fake account and posts as Zionism=Evil. Could be a fag like the Jew big nose Jake. Imitation is the best form of flattery. Anyway, most of you guys are smart enough to figure out a FAKE.

          • Assad must stay (gr8rambino)

            haha yea he is probably a Zionist himself

      • Zionism = EVIL

        There was no strike called off. The flight time from Al-Dhafra whore base across the Persian Gulf is barely 4-5 minutes at Mach 2, so a strike package simply can not be turned around, especially with the proven capability of Iranian air defences. In any case Iran has excellent ground intel assets in UAE and beyond to know every Americunt move. You can’t hide 50 planes in the air :) Americunts are more stupid than stupid and a global entertainment. ROFLMAO……………………..

      • PZIVJ

        Could be there are to many Iranian civilians strolling around the AA bases to check out the equipment during the daylight hours. :DD

        • Zionism = EVIL

          Yeah Iranians are very friendly, they just picnic next to S-300 and Khordad 3/15 batteries and let their kids play with radar tracking consoles. Many Iranians get married next to Kolchuga radar controls :)

        • FlorianGeyer

          Good Point.
          If only the civilians in Falluja, Mosul and Raqqa et al had realised that :)

      • S Melanson

        You clearly do not recognize Trumps exceptionalism. In mind he is the genius of Pythagoras, the oratory voice of Cicero, the deep philosophical mind of Seneca and above all, really bad hair.

        Despite the debilitating condition of bad hair, Trump has devised a way to successfully land astronauts on the surface of the Sun. We are going to land at night.

        • FlorianGeyer

          Emperor Trumps unique reign will be studied globally in Universities for generations ( if we all live that long). :)

          His greatest achievement in my opinion , has been to shine a ‘humungous and focused’ bright light on the US ‘Export and Homeland versions of democracy’. Other wise known as ‘Warlord Police States with US Attitude’.

          Even the arse lickers of NATO are not able to ignore the shit on their tongues anymore.

          • S Melanson

            While ‘Democracy’ is the US second biggest export, after weapons exports, unlike the downgraded export versions of US military systems, The export version of Democracy is extremely lethal.

            I believe Bolton and Pompeo have just finished updating the Democracy Export Brochure with the new Pompeo- Boltonesqe title ‘Triumph of the Will’, which truly captures what US Democracy is really about. The trademark mantra remains unchanged obviously as Bolton wrote it for the first edition of the brochure:

            “US Democracy is not for everyone, but you’re getting it anyway.”

      • Sinbad2

        Believe it or not that’s how it worked with the RAAF radar station at Frenchs Forrest.
        8 to 4 Monday to Friday, if you wanted to attack Sydney, just come on the weekend.

        • Zionism = EVIL

          Who in their right mind would attack Australia? it is already overrun by Chinese and Indians :) and housing is unaffordable.

        • FlorianGeyer

          It makes a complete mockery of ‘Heroes defending the homeland’ really.

          • Sinbad2

            A one time defense minister by the name of Jim Killen once joked that the Australian army would struggle to defend Bondi on a Sunday afternoon.

            Politicians were more honest back then, and many like Killen had served in WWII.
            2 Prime Ministers who were ex military, went to Vietnam, both came back and said we gotta get out of there. Both were replaced in short order. The 3rd leader a typical American sycophant survived until voters threw him out for the late great Gough Whitlam. It took 3 years for the US to remove him, but not before he got us out of Vietnam, and recognized Beijing as the legal government of China, and not Taipei.
            That really angered the Americans, probably more than getting out of Vietnam.

          • FlorianGeyer

            It appears though that most Australians think the US is something to be aspired to. Is that so, Sinbad?

            The recent exposure of Australian SAS committing war crimes is more ‘US Values’ than Australian Values, I think. Your cops seem to be going that way as well.

          • Sinbad2

            Yes the last Labor Government even had a Minister for the US Ambassador, Senator Mark Arbib. He was the guy who convinced the US Ambassador to allow Julia Gillard to become PM.
            And yes the SAS is doing what they do in Africa, for America.

  • John

    pffffft, they called his bluff. It is a shame he used this opportunity to spout more baloney, instead of having a moment of actual candor.

    • stan miller

      You believe everything you read on-line? Maybe that story was a message to Iran that you came within an inch of an attack.

      • Sinbad2

        Well I think Iran will do it again, unless the US withdraws.
        You have 2 realities in America, one is winning votes, Americans won’t vote for a President that backs down.
        The second reality is the entire global economy would crash if the US started a shooting war with Iran.
        Trump backed down because somebody explained to him that an American attack on Iran might cost the US billions, and of lesser importance, to him, thousands of dead Americans.

      • John

        Oh, not quite there Stan. Besides, belief is for you. I observe, reflect, observe some more and what I came up with after that, was you were dead wrong and Israel is in a real pickle right now. Who is to argue with that?

        • stan miller

          Well, what a rational person your are and I believe in witchcraft. You know the truth is the exact opposite of what YOUR believes are. Israel’s trade and foreign investment has never been higher . Intel just paid fifteen billion!! (not a typo) for Mobileye. Tourism in 2018 broke a record, meaning ordinary people want to come to the country. Israel has new alliances with China and India. In July 2017, Narendra Modi became the first ever Indian Prime Minister to visit Israel. – Singapore-Israel bilateral trade is worth US$ 1.5 billion (as of 2016). Thailand a super fast growing country has excellent relations with Israel. And for all the meaningless votes in the UN against Israel by the EU, trade grows ever year. Israel was the first country to get the F-35 and the only country allowed to customize the software. People like you who are latent Jew haters are always screaming that Israel’s demise is at hand, ain’t going to happen.

  • Since when does US cares about peoples life? It was easy enough to strike at Syria…
    Here is when mighty POTUS chickens out …

  • S Melanson

    This article came out a few days ago and the link is below:

    [Mohammad Nasser Al-Bakhiti (senior leader in Ansarullah)] warned on Sunday that a “major battle” is looming inside of Saudi Arabia… it is time for his organization to expand its military operations inside of Saudi Arabia… Al-Bakhiti called on the Yemeni tribes to differentiate between state and private-owned assets and properties if the attacks start, noting that the tribal forces will surely coordinate their moves with freedom-seekers in Saudi Arabia.

    “We are liberation forces and not occupiers,” he said.

    In relevant remarks on Saturday Yemeni Air Force Spokesman Brigadier General Abdullah Al-Jefri pointed out that the arithmetic of war had changed as a result of his country’s missiles and drones, adding that the Saudi-UAE coalition would be forced to stop the war soon.

    I wonder if the push to attack Iran is related to what increasingly looks like the defeat of KSA

    • Muriel Kuri

      I’ve been watching this seriously – S. Arabia has substantial civilian dissidents that could (if aren’t already) start working with Yemen to overcome the royal family that has ruled them for so long. This is another potential start of extreme volatility in the middle east.

      • S Melanson

        Yes, good points. I spoke of tribal insurrection in KSA in a previous post which I repost below:
        Ansarallah are expanding their hold on southern KSA. How successful securing their hold on occupied Najran is shown by a personal visit of head of Yemeni military forces to review troops and frontline in enemy occupied territory – video showed the light of Najran City in background only two kilometres away.

        The visit was a humiliation and these attacks further reinforce the message that KSA cannot stop Ansarallah From taking and securing Saudi territory. The burning Coalition vehicles is for the local tribes to show who are the winners and who are the losers.

        The tribal elders do not want to back the loser. However, elders will not rush to back Ansarallah despite Yemeni heritage, because they would fear Saudi reprisals, with good reason. US encouraged uprising against Saddam Hussein in first gulf war only to abandon the insurgency which Saddam then brutally crushed.

        It follows that if the tribes back Ansarallah, the intent is to return Najran to Yemen in any peace arrangement. So if this happens, we are talking about break up of KSA as Najrān will set off insurrection elsewhere in the kingdom. MBS knows this and the war has to stop before that happens so MbS continuing the war tells me there are other factors preventing him.

        Ansarullah know this as well and this is why the offensive into KSA. I thought it would end the war and it should have by now. But it has not. The offensive must then go to its conclusion, the dissolution of KSA. No articles on that, just Russia and US dissolution. Well I see KSA first in line for that

        There are also articles coming out about South Yemen tribal elders debating to back Ansarallah and that Aden is preparing for a coming siege

        • FlorianGeyer

          I would think that the US has told the Saudi regime that they will be left to their fate if they seek better relations with Iran and the Houthis.

          The UK government has this week, lost a British High Court Appeal with regard to Saudi Arms supplies . The Appeal court deemed that arms supplies are Unlawful in the current situation.

          It follows on from this that UK military advisers, special forces, and also British arms manufacturers technical staff in the Kingdom and Yemen could also be illegal.

          I personally know a Royal Navy Diver who was deployed to the Yemeni coast in support of the Saudi’s last year.

    • Concrete Mike

      It would be a good maskirovska!!

  • Dušan Mirić

    Perhaps some courageous man reminded within the US “Military”. Courageous enough to say to his President the drone enters Iranian air space. Perhaps.

    • Astrid Watanabe

      Quite possible.

  • Jacob “Wraith” Wohl

    Iran came very close to losing 50% of their air defense capabilities in 1 night! USAF and US Navy were about to fire over 300 tomahawks, use 50+ fighter planes, and 10+ strategic bombers!

    • 1691

      Yap, but they didn’t. Ha ha ha!

    • Wolfgang Wolf

      jewish blabla….

    • Putin Apologist

      I think we “came very close” to the begining of Amercia’s second defeat, in as many decades, in the Middle East. But more importantly, apparently, so too did the brass in the Pentagon, and they seem to have conveyed their concerns to Trump.

    • Paul

      Murcia, f yeah,,,

    • Zionism = EVIL

      Yep faggot :)

    • AJ

      S300s would have taken out many of those planes!

    • skinner15

      Are you Zelensky, the comedian?

    • Jimmy Jim

      no mercan blood for kikes……dykes…….or fags…..kapeeeeeeeesh……..

  • Jacob “Wraith” Wohl

    Israel will take this opportunity to smash IRGC in Syria even more while IRGC in Iran and Iraq are smashed by the USA :-]

    • Putin Apologist

      The Jews that came from Europe after the Second World War were pretty good warriors, no doubt about it. But the Jews in Israel today, not so much. All those many decades of easy living, basically off the American tit, has made for a weak society, and therefore by extension a weak military. We saw this with their last defeat at the hands of Hezbollah, in what was it? 34 days?

    • Paul

      Lol, you live in a false reality. Take that stupid star spangled banner away from your eyes so maybe you maybe able to see. Do you know your heavily brainwashed?

    • skinner15

      No opportunity to do so all along?

      The IRGC are only about since 1979. Silly boy!

    • Zionism = EVIL

      Dumbest 21 year old fag troll around eh :)

  • World_Eye

    Wait 150 will die from Iranian side or from the US side. What is this? From what Trump refrain himself ?
    Oh and yes I can imagine Bolton and Pompeo their dream was about to come true but it failed.

  • Sorna Karbaschi
    • Zionism = EVIL

      US and Iranian media have just confirmed that retardo Trump wants talks without any preconditions. Iran said that Trump asked for talks with Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei

  • Alberto Garza

    meanwhile israel has more than 100 nuclear weapons

    • Zionism = EVIL

      and totally useless :) can’t use nukes in a small sliver of Occupied Palestine.

  • LaRata

    Good D.T. .. Do not follow all the order from Israel…

  • jm74

    Trump would be well aware of the consequences that the strike would be and he wasn’t prepared to loose all his assets due to the collapse of the global monetary system. US will just keep on harassing, intimidating and creating false flags hoping that Iran will fold and lie down and make themselves subservient to the US. Never will happen.
    That strike was all bluff; like the 3 little piggies “huff and puff and blow the house down”. What a turd that trump and his 2 other piggies, Bolton, Pompeo turned out to be.

  • Zionism = EVIL

    As I wrote years ago, the Americunts are coward arseholes and Trump is the biggest braggart fool. Now that they have permanently chickened out, there are a lot of very sour shitheads in Pisrael, Saudi Arabia and UAE whores. Iran stood its ground, shot down the $200 million dud drone, told the truth and gained a lot of global gravitas.

  • J Roderet

    Hahahaha, yeah right! Since when does Washington care about people getting killed? The real reason there was no US attack is the strength of the Iranian military (especially its missile program, which includes very powerful anti-ship and anti-aircraft missile systems). US bases and ships all over the region would be hit within minutes of any US attack on Iran.

    • Zionism = EVIL

      You are very astute. The Americunt now understand fully Iranian capabilities.

      • Oscar Silva Martinez


    • goingbrokes

      True. The thing is, the US hawks might actually want that, so they can have their war. But it is the inevitable upward hike in the oil price which would destroy American prospects badly (apart from the shale oil industry). Experts talk about the potential of $250/barrel, which would wreck every European economy within weeks. If US is seen as the cause of such destruction of its “allies”, all the alliances would crumble to the bare bones of UK/US only. In a word, a global disaster. Trump can’t afford such a cost. He would go down as the destroyer of US empire.

      • Zionism = EVIL

        It would have been suicide for Pisrael and UAE too. Iran would have unleashed hell. Iranian doctrine is very one dimensional, you hit us, we will destroy the Zionist parasites and turn the region on fire. Just look at the demographics, there are 400 million Shia, all with martyrdom fever. The idiot Bolton almost got the the dumbass Americunts to commit collective suicide, good thing the Omani puppets have speed dial :)

    • RichardD

      I think the retaliation would be proportional. But I agree that there would be reciprocity of the type that the US rarely sees.

    • Sinbad2

      More importantly Iran could and would stop oil leaving the gulf, that would cause the US stock market and the US dollar to crash.

      The banks(USA/UK), don’t really care if people on either side are killed, just don’t stop them picking the fruit from their oil based money tree.

  • Vitex

    He changed his mind 10 minutes after hearing credible evidence that the Iranians might have nukes

    • Zionism = EVIL

      Iran has enough missile material for 20 ten kt bombs or more. They have not been churning out cheese with the IR8 centrifuges.

      Iran 4th country in world to produce stable isotope

      • d’Artagnan

        Iran and North Korea are ambiguous nuclear powers that keep their enemies off balance and guessing.

  • omrizkiblog

    Trump needs this event to UP his 2020 campaign. Trump has 2 important choices ahead: 1st is obviously war on Iran, 2nd maybe he could try to be another good guy who save the world ….☕

  • skinner15

    Sen Lyndsey Graham tonight in an interview, claims that the US warned Iran not to shoot down the P-8 aircraft with 35 people on board, or that the US would retaliate in a big way.

    This proves that Iran did indeed issue two warnings to the crew of the P-8, and that the US responded to those warnings.

    The US drone also had its transponder off.

    • Ashok Varma

      Iranians acted with great maturity and restraint and it is time US reciprocate and end its hostility.

      • skinner15

        They certainly proved that it is not them who seek to start a war, with a nation who travel thousands of miles to fight them.

      • frankly

        You are ok if we don’t hold are breath waiting for the US to do the right thing?

    • PZIVJ

      Real life operations do not happen this way.
      A plane can travel a long ways in 5 minutes. Crew size of an P-8 is 9, does not even have seating for 35, unless they are strapped to the air frame. We call this BS propaganda.
      Iran will endure and stay strong. :)

      • skinner15

        Jeez, can’t you check the flight route, both Iran and the US flight routes indicate the drone cycling around the narrow Gulf.

        The Iranians warned them over 15 minutes before the strike, that they had entered Iranian airspace, and were about to do so again.

        The Gulf is too narrow at many points to have any international airspace.
        It’s either Omani, UAE or Iranian airspace.

        And don’t tell me that you have not seen the photo above of the inside of a P-8, it can easily hold that amount.

        • PZIVJ

          “Sen Lyndsey Graham tonight in an interview, claims that the US warned Iran not to shoot down the P-8 aircraft with 35 people on board, or that the US would retaliate in a big way.”
          Do you have any links for this fantasy story?

          • skinner15

            Try watching Al Jazeera you ducking muppet.

      • skinner15

        The P-8 is based off of a Boeing 767-400, designed around 2000.

        In its civilian mode, it can carry between 180-300 passengers.

        35 isn’t what the normal flight crew is, but was this a normal flight!

        • PZIVJ
          • skinner15

            Why don’t you google the aircraft you muppet, rather than look at picture books.

            Who gave you the picture, your handler?

          • PZIVJ

            Yes, my handlers gave me the picture just to deceive you. LOL
            You can also try google search: :)
            P-8 interior > images
            This one has less clutter:

          • skinner15

            Stop with the spew, google the actual P-8, it has capacity for up to 300 in different arrangements, and its not the MSM reporting 35 onboard, its the IRGC.

            You wouldn’t answer before, but don’t you believe what the IRGC said, or are you denying it like the Yanks?

          • PZIVJ

            You are a non thinking fool if you believe everything you read in the media, and it cuts both ways. I for one do not spread disinformation, but appears you have no problem with that. :)

          • skinner15

            What disinformation, that’s what the IRGC claimed.
            You are spreading lies, when you say a Boeing aircraft can only fit 8 or 9 people on board.
            Other posters have pointed out to you that it is far larger than you insist.
            You refuse to admit the aircraft is based off a Boeing 767-400 which is the P-8 military version. It can carry up to 300 passengers in its airframe, so why the big lies from you as to its capacity.

            And still you lie about Lindsey Graham, or are you telling me YouTube, Al Jazeera, CNN are all putting lookalikes on TV?

          • PZIVJ

            Are you just a stupid troll with no ability to count!
            I clearly showed you the P-8 has 9 crew positions plus 10 spare seats with no computer workstations.
            9+10 =19 DUHH :)

          • skinner15

            You showed a picture that your handler instructed you to show, instead of looking at the technical details of the aircraft you Adolf loverboy.

            What about Lyndsey,
            Panzer4Jutland, what a sad little Nazi.

          • PZIVJ

            It’s been an fun discussion skiinner.
            But it turns out you are just another troll on SF site.
            Goodnight and goodbye. :)

          • PZIVJ

            Papa Zulu 4 Juliet.
            I think you know the language.

          • skinner15

            Panzers 4ce Jutland, goodnight.

          • skinner15

            And don’t tell me you haven’t seen the Lyndsey Graham reference to Iranian warnings, as you should just google that if you were interested in not denying reality.

      • AM Hants

        At the end of the day, what was an American spy drone, doing on the borders of Iran? Not as though it was close to home, now is it? Clue in ‘spy drone’.

  • Ashok Varma

    Trump is a pathetic old fool without any credibility. Most of his statements and tweets border on insanity. Never thought that US would sink so low.

    • skinner15

      Wasn’t the massacre of the Native people a clue of what was to come?


  • Helen4Yemen
  • Justin

    Come on guys! you KNOW u have bias against the USA! Does anybody understand the difference between Trump and obama? yet u al say the same shit about the USA as u did when obama was in power! There is a big difference!

    In your heart of hearts, u KNOW the USA would have zero problems attacking iran! Dont give me this shit that iran has advanced weapons! They have a demolished economy and have copycat aircraft from the 1950’s! Dont tell me for one second that the USA couldnt wipe iran out (seriously damage it) and then just sail away like it was no big deal! Sure u’d end up with Iranian terrorism like we did in the 1980’s but im just saying, dont fool yourself!
    A lot of you dumbasses think the USA (since the fall of the soviet union) were only focussed on conventional wars and thus conventional weapons! RUBBISH!!!!
    They dont tell u their tech like russia did!
    Its kept secret until one day it appears on the battle field!

    Half of u want this war and u know it! u want something to be excited about! The other half just want the US to go into liquidation as the Soviet union did! But u forget that the owners of the Soviet union and now the USA are transferring their empire of nations to china! There is ample and obvious evidence of this yet u all sit here and barrack for them! FOOLS!

    Anyway, If u actually KNOW what is going on u will want:

    1. Iran IRGC to be overthrown
    2. Saudi Monarchy to be overthrown
    3. Russia and the USA to become allies
    4. People like soros, obama, clintons and rothschilds to be jailed and executed
    6. NO NWO
    7. CIA and Mossad to be diminished!
    8. israeli and US relations to become merely a friendship and not an ownership

    Some of this will occur! But yu sit on this site and u get 1/4 of the story! yes 1/4. and because of this none of u (well maybe 1 or 2) understand the REAL geopolitical landscape!
    Everyone on this site THINKS this is about nations vs nations! FOOLS!

    This is about Puppet masters vs the newly free’d USA who was a former puppet as well!

    The USA and Russia is taking this all back! (From the jews)
    The next 6 months will be glorious!

    • PZIVJ

      So, we shall hear from you again in 6 months?
      Right now Bolton and Yellow Clown seem a bit worried about cutting off the oil supply from the Persian gulf. :)

      • Justin

        it is my opinion that they are intentionally blocking it to effect CHINA!
        Stemming oil from iran is almost a blockade on China! Do you not see the timing of the US blockade of Venezuela? China wont be able to get oil from Venez nor Iran! ONLY RUSSIA!

        Yet the US can get its oil from saudi (western ports via suez canal), canada! They could even force Venez to trade in oil!

        So what i am telling you is that the USA is purposely doing this (im sure u already know) but not to effect themselves, but to effect China!

        Of course they are cutting off )or stemming the flow) of oil from the Persian Gulf, what the fuck do you think they are doing there? playing paddy cakes?

        This is more about China than it is about Iran!
        Just as Eastern Ukraine was more about Russia than it was about Ukraine!

        Come on dude, u know im right!

        Russia is going to be super happy with this because oil prices go up and they will get more sales! you can bet your balls that Putin and trump pre-planned this (why do u think trump hired Rex Tillerson from Mobil who was friends with putin)

        There are 2 or 3 major winners in this!
        Russia, USA and UK!
        Oil sales and oil prices!
        Think petro dollar!
        Think oil prices
        Think who now gets a larger market share since iran, iraq, qatar, saudi, bahrain are now getting much less oil out!
        THINK! its so fucking easy to understand!
        and yet u sit here with a smirk on your face thinking this is back firing?

        Dude, this is so pre-planned you wouldnt believe it!

  • Jimmy Jim

    no mercan lives for kikes and dykes, or the chump trump……

  • Xoli Xoli

    Who cares.Babilon knows it’s time.is up.

  • Xoli Xoli

    Iran good have kill 150 million rich Bilionaires plus USA rubbish Trump,Bolton and Pompeo worshippers.

  • AM Hants

    ‘We will invade 7 nations in 5 years, ending with Iran’ – General Wesley Snipes, believe back in 2003.

    Cyber-sleuths responsible for Russiagate now warn of ‘Iranian hackers’… https://www.rt.com/news/462433-iran-hackers-crowdstrike-fireeye/


    When Dick Chenie, was the Defence Secretary, under Bush, he came across ‘Haliburton’ and realised, that there was a niche in the market for a Private Military Industry. So away he went and cut to the bone, the US Forces. Whilst getting involved in Haliburton, running the ‘Private Military Industry’ section. He became CEO of Haliburton, whilst changing US legislation, to secure funding for his ‘PMI’. The US military, owing major cutbacks, could not compete without the private military contractors, who are loyal to nobody, least of all the nation they serve, and accountable to nobody. Yet, $trillions are spent on them. Dick Chenie, who was partners with Bush and the Bin Ladens in the Carlyle Group, and not forgetting how he also runs ‘Genie Energy’, based in the ‘Golan Heights’, with Rupert Murdoch, Larry Summers and Jacob Rothschild (if the latter is still in the land of the living).

    1997, the ‘Private Military Industry’ is up and running, no doubt not just in the USA. So to prove it’s effectiveness, they go and invade ‘Kosovo’. Which brings in those who fund the ‘White Helmets’. How many of the NGOs, (ignoring the nations) who funded the ‘White Helmets’ were created for the ‘Private Military Industry’, including James Le Mesurier ‘May Day Rescue’?

    James Le Mesurier: The Former British Mercenary Who Founded The White Helmets

    James Le Mesurier, a British ex-mercenary, founded the White Helmets in 2013. The group has been lauded for its “humanitarian” efforts in Syria, but they have actually functioned more as a logistics and propaganda arm of Syria’s al-Qaeda branch, complete with training from Le Mesurier.

    by Whitney Webb… https://www.mintpressnews.com/james-le-mesurier-british-ex-military-mercenary-founded-white-helmets/230320/

    White Helmet Funding




    Look, how the same group, also help finance the BBC, besides the licence fee payer.


    1997, the ‘Private Military Industry’ kicked off. The same year NATO invaded Kosovo. The same year, that NATO wanted Ukraine to become a member, but, this could not happen, owing to Ukraine and Russia never ratifying their borders, in accordance with International Law. Remember, when the Secretary of State, James Baker, promised Gorbechev, back in 1989, that they would not move an inch into Eastern Europe? Well how did that go, starting with the first NATO base in Eastern Europe, which was up and running, by 1999.


    Something Strange Is Taking Place In The Mediterranean… https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-04/something-strange-taking-place-mediterranean

    Then we had 9/11 and look how the ‘Private Military Industry’ took off, after that. The night after the Bush family were dining with the Bin Laden Family, and we are meant to believe the MSM spin on events?

    2003, Iraq War and what was that based on and who spun it?

    US government spent over $500m on fake Al-Qaeda propaganda videos that tracked location of viewers
    The Pentagon hired a UK-based PR firm to produce and disemminate videos during the Iraq War… https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/us-government-pentagon-fake-al-qaeda-propganda-videos-a7348371.html


    What nations, were the US and NATO going to invade, over 5 years?

    “We’re Going to Take out 7 Countries in 5 Years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan & Iran..”
    Video Interview with General Wesley Clark

    Part 2 to follow.

  • AM Hants

    Part 2

    So who is behind wanting to invade the nation, with no Rothschild Central Bank, known as Iran?

    Remember, Bolton, was the US Envoy to the UN, when serving under Bush and what was it he demanded of the Director of the OPCW, when they were looking for WMDs? Why did he need to mention they knew where the Director’s children were?


    Let us go back in time, to 1939, when Reinhard Gehlen, was in deep discussions with Allen Dulles, with creating the CIA, and for their first operation to provide safe passage for the Nazi and Bolshevik elite. Earl Browder, the leader of the US Communist Party, was also involved in choosing the passenger list. His grandson, is Bill Browder, who fled from Russia, with a lot of money, which he handed over to the Clinton Foundation, believing they were the US tax revenue. He then got kicked out of the US and turned up in the UK. Still not paying his tax bills, but, now, ironically, Bill Browder is heavily involved in ‘Integrity Initiative’, whose remit is ‘Russian media disinformation’ which appears to have progressed into ‘Russia, Iran media disinformation’.

    How Was The CIA Formed? By absorbing the Nazi war criminal infrastructure… http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/gehlen.htm


    Who was involved in ‘The Maidan’, over in Ukraine?
    Who was involved in MH17 cover up?
    Who was involved in ‘Russia Gate’?
    Who desperately wants war in Syria, Venezuela and Iran?
    Who ran ‘Operation Gladio’ and how does that all tie in with it all?

    Who is involved in ‘Integrity Initiative’?




    The ‘Integrity Initiative’ – A Military Intelligence Operation, Disguised As Charity, To Create The “Russian Threat”
    The British government financed Integrity Initiative is tasked with spreading anti-Russian propaganda and thereby with influencing the public, military and governments of a number of countries. What follows is an contextual analysis of the third batch of the Initiative’s internal papers which were dumped by an anonymous yesterday.

    Christopher Nigel Donnelly (CND) is the co-director of The Institute for Statecraft and founder of its offshoot Integrity Initiative. The Initiative claims to “Defend Democracy Against Disinformation”… https://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/12/the-strange-mind-of-christopher-nigel-donnelly.html


    Stuff To Read: Integrity Initiative, Skripal, Kaspersky …
    The is no original piece ready to post today, but here are some interesting links:

    The Russian anti-virus company Kaspersky was contacted by someone who it found to be related to the U.S. National Security Agency. Kaspersky immediately told the NSA about the contact. Following that tip the FBI arrested Harold T. Martin, a NSA contractor who had collected the NSA entire arsenal of digital weapon at is home. Despite that very helpful tip by Kaspersky the U.S. government continues to harass the company and to claim that it was working as an agent of the Russian government.
    Exclusive: How a Russian firm helped catch an alleged NSA data thief, Kim Zettler, Politico… https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/01/stuff-to-read-integrity-initiative-skripal-kaspersky-.html

    Khazarian and AshkeNAZIs originated from Nomadic Turkic Tribes, who adopted Christianity, Islam and Judea, whilst learning Hebrew. Over in Israel, over 93% of the population of Israel have no semetic DNA. Whilst, over in Palestine, over 93% of the people of Palestine, have semetic DNA, originating from the Hebrews and Arabs. Not forgetting, over 3,000 years ago the elders of Israel came to Hebron and David is anointed king over all of Israel and the Hebrews. Long before the Nomadic Turk imposters arrived and high-jacked the religion, for their own means. 1917 Balfour document, which led to the creation of Israel in 1947.

    Greater Israel Project Gas Fields and Basins


    Middle Eastern Nations, losing territory for the GIP in red, gaining territory for the GIP in black, remaining the same is shown in grey:


  • Rhodium 10

    Because someone told him that a war vs Iran is a trap…it means the close of Hormuz, the support of China and Russia to Iran with advance weapons…and the end of petrodollar currency…as Russia would be the main world supplier and can ask for Petroyuan or Ruble…

  • frankly

    “We were cocked and loaded’

    And there’s the problem. Are they ever sober?