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Kiev’s Actions Receiving Tough Responses From The Russian Army

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Amid the fierce battles on the front lines, the Armed Forces of Ukraine resumed large-scale attacks on Russian territory.

On April 25, the AFU struck an oil depot and a military unit in the Russian Bryansk region. The attack was likely carried out with drones. A large fire broke out on the tanks with fuel and lubricants. According to local reports, in addition to the oil depot, fire presumably hit the 120th arsenal of the Main Missile and Artillery Directorate.

Later, it was reported that the Russian air defense shot down 6 drones in the Kursk region.

On the same day, the AFU fired at the border villages of Nehoteyevka and Zhuravlevka in the Belgorod region. Two civilians were wounded.

In response to the AFU attacks, Russian high-precision missiles hit at least six railway substations in Western Ukraine. As a result, railway facilities in the Krasnoe, Zdolbunov, Zhmerinka, Berdichev, Kovel, Korosten were destroyed.

The Russian Ministry of Defense reported that these stations were used for the supply of foreign equipment and weapons to the Ukrainian groups in the Donbas region. Now, railway communication in a number of western regions of Ukraine is blocked.

Meanwhile, on the front lines Russian forces are slowly advancing in different directions. The joint Russian and LPR troops are pushing the AFU to the south of Izyum and near Velikaya Novoselka. The reinforcement of Russian forces in the area continues, so a major assault in the area is probably yet to come.

To the east, the LPR troops advanced from the direction of Kremennaya, took control over the village of Zarechnoye and are approaching the town of Lyman. The AFU are suffering heavy losses in the region. Control over the town of Lyman will provide the LPR units with a direct road to Slavyansk from the east.

Another victory for the LPR was claimed to the north-east of Popasnaya. The town of Novotoshkovskoye was taken under the LPR control.

A Su-34 of the Russian Aerospace Forces was shot down over the Balakleya district of the Kharkiv. Both pilots ejected safely and were promptly found by the search and rescue team of the Russian Army.

In Mariupol, the Russian side unilaterally claimed another truce for evacuation of civilians from the Azovstal plant. A humanitarian corridor was secured for workers, women and children to exit in any direction. However, none of the civilians ever came out of the facilities, confirming that the Azov nationalists do not care about the fate of their hostages.

Two months after the launch of Russia’s military operation in Ukraine, the situation on the front lines confirms that the conflict has finally phased in to a war of attrition.

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Itachi

Finally that Su34 was shot down? I wonder Wich Ukrainian equipment is capable to do that!🤔

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jens holm

You dont look up. Thats why.

good4u

Ukrainian loses:

https://t.me/TheEternalUkrainian2/4626

Numbers seems to be lower that Russian DoD claims, but it looks like that 1/4 manpower is gone. At least 1/4 of ground forces. Most of the Air force/defence gone.

Not sure how Ukraine could possibly push Russia out. To create successful offensive/counteroffensive the force must be at least 3 times larger than defenders. Not necessary manpower but firepower

jens holm

I dont use telegram.

I use Youtube, TV, Newssites with experts. If there are 6 experts telling about losses they are added and divided by 5.

Your assumption about 1 of 4 makes sense, but You might add some of the wounded ones back.

They also are added reinforcements, where many are secondclass and some few are very good. Thier mainproblems are to get enough hard equipmen and are flexible.

I also dont believe in pushout. I believe in the Russians can be exhausted. By that they has to retreat.

Ukras seemes not to very good in counterattacks. I agree in they might not have enough well prepared units for it. So they are like moskitos in this and not many.

They might do something else making deep defense. Small groups of soldiers with missiles might pass the Russian also having obersevarsion drones with them. By that they can be guerilla behind enemy lines and take targets in ambushed.

I think we soon will see if the Ukras can stop the Russian offensive from eats or not.

By the way I often look at the Syrian Live UA site.It has videos in the bottom often with Ukra stuff. By that Yiu can verify at leats some of it.

jens holm

6 haha

mistiick

“Experts”, beeing NATO shills. I would not give a penny on them, since they are neck deep in this war, be it militarily, ideologically, and also they very likely profit from it big time too. West needs to keep up that winning narrative just as much as Russia needs it aswell. For me western experts (with very few exceptions) are same as Kremlin ones, just biased in another way. I try to watch Indian media, CGTN, and some nieche european ones, like you can get very good in depth analysys on italian RAI sometimes (if you know italian).

jens holm

It wont eat what I write to You. I might have offended it.

Many others in nato know a lot. They are as reæibale as it goes.

I dont belive in anything from Russia.

I might look at Rai now and then too being not familiar with Italien sources. That goes for India as well. We do have a radio channel covering India well.

noname

Pentagon experts? Nato experts? BBC experts? Russia has ammunition for 3 more days experts?

you are in southfront because?

mistiick

There will be no counteroffensive, there was actually no proper counteroffensive of Ukraine in entire war (Kiev and Cernigiv directions were abandoned by Russia without military reason, for instance just a day before pullout town of Slavutich near Chernigiv was captured and encirclement of Chernigiv was sealed. Only question now is how much land Ru can grab, before the thing stops. As for death toll, in case of Ukraine we need to take into account all the Ru shelling and bombing of the areas behind front lines. Ofc, not all strikes kill hundreds like on on Nikolaev barracks did (unfortunatelly for ukraine propaganda this one was filmed by western journalists). But there are so many strikes each day, hitting groupings and command posts of Ukrainian military. And those casualties are never reported properly since Ru cannot film it (area not under their control), and Ukraine will not report it for obvious reasons.

ATBOTL

There have been no gains on the ground and that’s the only real way to measure who is winning and losing.

ATBOTL

NATO can bring in unlimited men and weapons. The only way Russia can win is to to TAKE and HOLD ground. Any part of the Ukraine not occupied by the Russian army when the shooting stops will be occupied by NATO troops before long.

Zero

I bet it it got shot down by a fighter..daft russian probably didn’t arm it with air to air missile .just like they did in Syria when Turks shot down su 24

Wizzy

They’re dumb to be repeatedly flying below 5000m. They need to learn.

Q

Yeah they risk a lot but you can’t really do serious ground support flying at 10km. There is a video with Su-34 flying very low yesterday, probably that one. IMO not worth risking the plane. these kind of missions should be abandoned except in special situations. Better to attack bridges and other stationary objects.

jens holm

Thats exactly how it is. Even You loose many of them smaller drones are better.

Ukras do that. Drones with camera are target finders for their artillery.

jens holm

Its a best to the price choise. The russians dont use the very expensive smart bombs. By that they has to come in slow and low.

Thats perfect for fx Stingers.

thoughtful

The British SAS did it although they may have allowed the Ukros to push the button, whilst they held their hand and helped them to do it. So, Technically now the Ukros did it, kind of. Please do some sketches to make us laugh at how NATO is making war on Russia in Ukraine whilst the Ukrainians are dying, afraid to get out of the underground bunkers, having their hostages die and Blackrock and Vanguard are heaping in the profits for their weapons, from the taxes on the West whilst the ordinary people are too hard up to pay for the bills and cannot even cook their food.

jens holm

Thats incompetent illitarate crap. Gadgets on the marslander know more about it then You.

Next time You as minimum shuld use both hands and a candle under Your bed blanket.

MalcolmXnxx

Same on that shot down Russia naval ship

Leland

Lol more gas suspensions: The Energy Ministry of Bulgaria reported that Russian Gazprom informed Bulgargaz about the suspension of gas supplies from April 27 – Reuters

First Poland now Bulgaria. It doesn’t pay to suck western dick anymore.

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Speaking about sucking western dick: ‘Bulgarian Prime Minister Kiril Petkov has launched a public campaign asking Bulgarian citizens to donate a month’s salary for Ukrainian weapons’ 😀🤣

MrX

what a plonker! I’m sure 99,99% bulgarians are overwhelmed with joy not to eat for a month or pay their bills or buy something for their families when they can work for a month for zelensky! lol

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Alex

Bulgarian PM is really working hard to achieve Polish, Cech and Lithuanian level of buttlicking. Basically all EU-nuch governments are competing to prove which one is the most servile to the Empire. As a Greek I am especially humiliated and disgusted by actions of my own government, although I definitely not considered them my own. Or the government at all. Nothing but occupation governors and quislings.

Bubbaorwell

EUnuch that’s a good one 😆

jens holm

Its a donation.

Gunth3r

Whatever dead monkey donated you his brain was extremely stupid.

jens holm

You do donation if You can and will. Thats not forced.

Putting in Your family makes no change.

Jens Borg

I’ll donate some quality sperm to your mother and sister to improve Holm defected genetics.

thoughtful

They think paying for the weapons makes them entitled to think of Russian resources as their own.

jens holm

Most I am aware of actually pay for, what they get or take. I hope Russia as gentlemen do that too.

thoughtful

hahahaha I expect they laugh at him.

Arzt Injektion

Bulgaria claims they paid, but didn’t say there if it was Rubles or not. Anyways we will know soon enough.

Ze Z

So you’re glad you’re that stupid? You still don’t realise who will be the real victim? Who will pay for this EU prank? You are abnormal. Wait when all of this starts to come out of your pocket.

Egregius

Apparently, Russia doesn’t like ‘money’, or ‘an economy’ any more. All part of Putin’s 5d chess plan /shrug

jens holm

I know it from old days, where Russian chessplayers came here as guests.

Both of them were protected to speak with us by 4 KGB officers.

Yhoo Major

Jesus F*cking Christ!!

Why has Russia not bombed All railway connections. Literally all. Leaving railway lines function is like Russia asking for punishment.

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Dan

Probably to study the networks and to draw them out. They will be destroyed.

Leland

Precisely that.

ATBOTL

That makes no sense. There is not need to “study” key bridges. Every day you wait to take them out helps the enemy and kills your own troops.

NATO is laughing at you

Hahahahaha

Bloop

Why did it take them 8 YEARS to finally respond to Ukrainian provocations? Seems like it’s all being staged and choreographed to follow a pre-planned agenda.

Leland

Because Russia needed time to build up their economy to be able to bypass and come out of ALL western sanctions in time. Back in 2014 this wasn’t probable. In addition, Russia received intelligence that a provocation in the Donbass was being set up and a large offensive operation from the ukrainian side was going to be put into action by late February early March. Either way this was inevitable. The U.S definitely wanted a conflict at this time but they didn’t fully calculate the extent of Russias response.

jens holm

Apart from the last sentence its a very good reflexion.

Everybody here in Europe apart from the Russian NEVER want a wall west of Berlin again. We want normal relations between the many countries with all kinds of relations and even the bad ones.

Thats recognized by UN even the Ukra borders are a kind of strange and by Minsk should have been adjustet fx by Autonome, semilar to or voting that infection back to Krustjov.

So we are many and its a something for something. Ukra has potential to raise their livingstandard. The mighty USSR didnt do that at all.

We didnt collapse Your homemade crackhead reading Karl Marx for own purpose. USA even offered Marshall help to eatern Europe and USSR as well.

It was a Stalin NO.

Your kind always say USA are loosers. But we Japan, South Korea and Taiwan dont think so.

WE COMPARE.

So what is it You really want. Ukras gave You the nukes.

Ukras just as Belarus has to choose their own destiny. Thats more production and a raised livingstandard. Whre do they see the toools.

Dan

Japan Taiwan and SouthKorea are U.S colonies with the lowest birthrates/ fertility in the world. Having a toxic 12-14 hour long work environment, constant depression/suicide isn’t particularly what a high living standard should entail. Those countries are not what they used to be.

Oy!

12-14 working hours? Are you for real or russian propaganda is at new low? As for the suisaide rate – russia is a winner. Russia is also a winner of dumb ways to die

Anti-NATO European

That’s real, but has nothing to do with them being USA vassals. There’s a toxic workaholic culture in those countries, people feel “lazy” if they don’t work late and do many week hours, like 60h/week or more. This has resulted in higher risk of burnout, sudent death and suicide. It’s such a problem that, recently, some companies started cutting electricity at a certain time, to prevent workers from doing extra extra late nights. A documentary showed that some still stay at their offices, with lanterns… (facepalm). But in other cases, there’s already good results, with productivity and health rising as work hours lower. It’s hard to imagine, but this is the usual business/work “culture” in Japan.

In China, there’s the opposite problem. Being the capitalist world’s factory, made big companies (western companies that delocalized from Europe and USA) use the workers as machines, away from protective laws like the European ones. The result is the use of toxic products (some glass cleaners in Samsung/Apple factories made people paralized), employers with fascist behavious treating workers as garbage, and even the the use of nets outside windows to prevent suicides.

So, it doesn’t matter if it’s Japan or China, if there is peace or war. The problem is the same: capitalist oligarch pigs using people as canon fodder. The only exception are the countries with the Nordic Model, with Ghent system that promotes Unions, and gives workers power to negociate better conditions (what USA idios/ignorants call “the commies”…). But that’s why contries like Denmark are at the top in hapiness rankings.

An alternative is workers comissions and having, by law, workers representatives in company’s administrations. That’s the german model, but its results are debatable, specially whem compared to the Nordic ones, and taking in consideration Germany is living with other people’s money with the EuroZone imbalances (although the propaganda says the opposite). If Germany had their own currency, it would be more valuable than Euro, making their exports lose competitiveness, and their.imports higher. In other words, Germany’s surplus is being paid the peripheral eurozone country’s external debts. But that’s another story…

Coming back to workers conditions and Human Development Index, long story short, Marx was right: workers of all countries, unite! Unfortunatelly, idiot genocidal Stalin made it sound really bad, and idiot NeoLiberals still use that today to “red scare” people away from Unionization in non-Nordic countries, or to inseminate fascist cultures that make people hurt themselves (like in Japan), and that are so “inceptioned” into people’s minds, that become very hard to correct, even when it’s so obviously wrong (like USA workers needing to vote to have unions, and then a majority of modern slaves in Amazon voting against such solution).

Now let us see how that Nordic European exceptionalism works in a time when Europe is betting on shooting itself in the foot, economically speaking, just to please the “lord almighty” POTUS and show what a good vassal Europe is at sanctioning Russia, and applying ZERO sanctions to the country that invaded half of Middle East, killed millions, made war crimes, lied is a systemic way, arrested whistleblowers like Assange, and planted the nazi-seed in Ukraine…

mistiick

If you want to find communism / socialism with a “human face”, you should study Yugoslavia, specially in period from 1960 to 1980. Scandinavians took some good practices from there aswell. We in the Balkans always say that soviet model was not communism at all but Stalinism, sadly copied by China too in early phase (Mao Zedong). But China now is also taking steps that are more like old Yugoslav model. Merging planned state economy with open market. But ofc China is different mentality so they will build a system that siuts them better, i guess.

jens holm

Its not a western fault when people spend more time in bed making children then outside trying to feed them.

You also ignore the market. Those low paid ones actually close down jobs here in the advanced industrialized world. By that they actually has a job.

And yes, there are stupidisme in ours at the job. Thats local decided and culture or needed. Its very much about effective production lines, where You might have ours doing absolutly nothing.

Danes work 37 hours a week and has 5 weeks of vacations. Americans are choceked, but we do almost the same in productivity as them.

We also has family pictures and nice walls and personal stuff where we work. Thats because we work for Our family.

The americans often think people work better, when everything is the company not thinking about home. .

jens holm

I think Denamrk is high ranked in happynees because we are safe. The country dont forget us. They evfen insist we cant just do nothing. Its against nothing just relaxing with beer and TV.

So we get more freedom and has a very horisontal leadersystem and we often are on first name with the boss.

By that we more allowed to be Ourself and even make the bad parts of the jobs better.

I typical morale thing is, we dont stop workung, when the boss is not there. It more an honor is done because You are able to handle the job Yourself.

Its a chock formany incommers. More reward then whips as well.

We are over represented in the world in top leadership. We are not the best educated in many sectors. But the trick is, we can make even very different people and very different sectors work together.

Thesingle things are not the center. products are the whole dammed thing for the buyer and user. That fx includes easy maintance and repair.

We are raised to that by the school system. In that we are more succesfull then others. Of course many people dont have that talent. But we try to understand we are dependent.

None want to go to the bathroom, and there is no paper or water.

jens holm

I forget the dark side. There sometimes can be to much compromizing. By that You dont get the best product.

Frachan

Mon épouse est japonaise , les employés travaillent 8 heures, retraite à 60ans, mais ils aiment le travail, oui.

jens holm

Its no quality to be many. That was easy even before the stoneage.

The difficult part is the next 9 months and 18 years.

Elgar

Russian birth rate is also very low and pandemia proved how poor Russia was protecting old people. Execess deaths during 2 years staggering 600,000.

jens holm

Its about the same for many countries. People live longer and by taht need more help in money as well as service.

But there are not enough warm hand to help them.

We try to be more productive, advanced by better education. By that we make enough money.

By that we import You low educated and many of the m are fit for fight even parts of the job is well paid.

We also try to be more advanced all over the health and hospital sector. Some old has videolinks, many has alrms by phose. Some use robot vakuum cleaners. We bring hot meals for low pay and like that.

It sove at least some of it.

When I get old I might have an automatic toilet and shower facility, which might dress and undress me as well:)

Its terrifying looking at the russian collpase in a lot of facilities.

jens holm

The ussian version is not unusual. It about trusting Your State and its healh sector. It very much about common knowlegde.

Its a habit here we ge home and isolate ourself if we are hit by bacterias and virus. We do know its not only for us. By that we dont spread it to all where You work or in a school class.

We know crowdingo fall kinds are not good.

So Rusians should have a raised level for that too.

After a hard one with many dead old ones, we got control and vaccinated. Not many didnt want that. Now we fr now are out of it. Old one has up to 4 vaccinations. That goes for people with no immune defence fx by canser treatment.

We dont wear masks any more.

You cant do muchj about the birthrate. There is nothing wrong i being less in Denmark. 100 years ago we were 2,5 mio. Now we are 5,8. Several 100.000 are permanent or themporary incommers making children to an for us.

Not all incommers are as we hope for. W see the Ukras are and kind of hope some will stay. We had 10.000. All of them are doing pretty well.

It also says nothing is wrong with Ukrainians under the right conditions.

Frachan

falbola

Frachan

Au Japon ils travaillent 8 heures par jour. Seuls els cadres travaillent plus, mais c’est plus des heures de présence

GameOfThrones

What they want? They want normal life for their huge minority that is living in Ukraine. Which shouldn’t be there, but communist lunatic were scrambling federal units like there wont be nationalist ever again. So then come Ukraine nationalist, which are in western Ukraine and want make Russians that live in eastern Ukraine for Ukrainians. But Russians rejected this and seek to separate. And then mother Russia come to help.

This is all about now. Not about EU so much. Russians wont allow that would state with 15 millions of their compatriots be in opposite military bloc.

jens holm

I wont dispute with You.

It was Russia which moved Ukraine west taking all that land from Germans, Poles, Jews and several other minorities.

It also was the USSR next adding Ukriane in east.

Its exact the same horrible people which now cant respect borders made by themself.

jens holm

I can and could understand the nazis/germany should pay by taken some land from them.

Those mllions of people in Belarus as well as Western Ukraine are much more connected to Poles. They were poles from 1920 to MOlotov – Ribbentrop and by that use the Pilsusky flags.

You also has a horrible STALIN version for Banderas. Banderas was a freedomfighter from 5 years before Hitler wrote hsi book.His people were killed in 1000s by Poland in war and uprise.

Much later he revenged and killed about 30.000 poles. It was a fight to get at least some autonomy in Das Reich.

That does not make him to a real nazi. He even was jailed by Gestapo in Sachsenhaussen. I have seen Sacksenhaussen. Thats no nice place at all.

Elgar

Ukrainians are rather realistically compared living in Polish or Russian society. Decision is easier: Poles have much better standard of living compared to Russia. Poland is much more equal as society than oligarch controlled Russia. In 2021 Ukraine had much better equality index than Russia. When it comes to Eastern Ukraine its much more shitty Soviet style compared to western Ukraine which is more like cleaner Europe.

thoughtful

Yep so much deception and lies, they believe their own lies. They were only afraid of Putin’s nukes. Me thinks that if the West launched nukes, Putin’s defenses would ensure that they would fall back down onto us.

Ilya

… which they didn’t. Our genius, Putin, spend 8 years neglecting infrastructure and the public to build up international reserves, but “forgot” to take away them from Western banks at which they could easily be blocked.

They also spent all that time developing civil airliners to be an alternative to Boeing and Airbus. Only that most of their components are still western and the only tried and tested alternative that they have are soviet planes.

I agree with the last sentence though. Not even in the wettest dreams of NATO the russian response would be so slow, pathetic, half arsed. They certainly didn’t count on this.

jens holm

The choise before this was to make the Russian cake bigger. They have not. They have restored old callpased parts. Thats about is.

They even has taken most of their education systems away. Even before this it did not do well and had too low capasity.

Not even their military complex has. Only their missiles are improved.

You has to rember the swift system is a very good world system for all. By that Russia has saved a lot of money and has less bureaucrasy.

Hardly none can just stop import and export. And it is both ways. We dont get those fossils and some food has to be grown in a much more expensive way.

The main problems are for those which has no money for fuel and food. We might hve more problems. I saw news yesterday. It seemes China cant handle their Covid as they do.

Ilya

Frankly, the right wing nationalists here might disagree but everything that works in Russia today was built in the Brezhnev era or earlier and it is here by inertia. Good educational standards, heavy industry, military forces etc. In Ukraine the situation is even worse. The Soviet Union build, the oligarchs destroy

You can surely bet that Mariupol and other cities will be rebuilt to lower standards. All is settling for less, cutting corners, “optimizing”. Like with the Russian healthcare that almost collapsed due to covid.

This war is an eye opener. Russia, and actually not just Russia needs to change their course.

zulu

During the Brezhnev era USSR/Russia did not have enough food, people were hungry, country was not able to produce enough food, so they had to sell oil for US dollars, and to import wheat from their class enemy US, the only state in a world at that time, that was able to produce enough food to feed the millions of Soviet lazy commie asses. Now Russia is one of the biggest exporters of grain, agriculture has prospered last 20 years, but the problem is the Russian cities, cities are full with former lazy commie asses who have meanwhile degenerated into full-blooded pro-Western cuckolds.

jens holm

I like the short versions of yours. I kind of smile too. Russia has urbanized like anybody else.

You migt be right in Your cuckolds. I am aware of that class. Thye are normal ones for every country doing expoert and export in new things.

Your focus should be to make Russia more productive to finance a raised living standards. Those mainly makes easy moneywith semilar foeiigners in other Capitols and big cities.

So You have to do that and tax those for home production and educatio to handle things better.

Here we also see the unimployed poor ones as incommers to the big city. We do try to help them by making real jobs for them. They have no jobs outide the urban areas unkless we make them and almnost force them to it.

Ilya

Ahh yes. Russia went from a big nuclear power and winning the space race to… exporting grain, oil and other things that require minimum processing like an african country.

Congratulations. And you are talking complete shit. The participation on the GDP of every single russian federal unit bar Moscow has decreased, the regions are a hopeless place after oligarchs destroyed the industry and Russia is now pretty much Moscow with a huge wasteland attached to it.

I guess all the grain makes up for it.

jens holm

Its very difficult to remove bad habits. I kind of hope Russia collpase again. That partly goes for Ukraine as well.

I do remeber the Russian revolution confiscated a lot of money and property from the Upperclass and Church. Thats should happen again.

Give those people a life time in relative wellfare and confiscate the rest.

I have the same ideas for some few companies in Denmark. Wjhen then can make so much money so fast some must be stolen ones. We are in courts with some of them. But it takes years to confiscate and jail them.

Ilya

Yes. Russia thought it was a good idea to allow oligarchs to pile up the nation resources in Cyprus and Israel. Fantastic that people who defend this like the zulu i replied to are “patriots” and the people who want to remove the parasites are “commie cuckolds blablabla”.

Sadly inequality has been growing a lot in Scandinavia as well.

GameOfThrones

Bullshit. After 8 years of “preparations” half of the reserves were frozen. And still big part of consumer industry is totally foreign dependent.

And invasion is done with 1/3 of necessary forces. And defence infrastructure was preserved. And transport either. Russia is asking itself for beating.

jens holm

Thats right. hey have or deny to have increased own production.

50% of the corruption oligarc money is not even taxed. Instead its invested in the west. Here they try to legalize telling tax is paid in Russia – But its not.

They not even educate people for own advanced productions.

We always here fx USA has those really rich jews and the rest is living in the strets poor only having and umbralla.

But the backbone here and in USA are the many relative well educated middleclass. We pay a lot of tax so the state cnaa help poor and us.

And we do tax really rich ones. Sometimes I think it should be more. But they are not untaxed and do create those many jobs.

Its very simple. If we are not paid well, we cant buy their stuff.

Hjalmar

Very good question. I have myself wondered about this since 2014, especially why Putin abandoned Donbass when both Donetsk and Lugansk held referendums resulting in both wanting to rejoin Russia, but they were rejected by the president. Why, I haven’t got a clue. Had they been welcomed back to the Motherland then, we wouldn’t have been in the mess we’re in now.

ATBOTL

Putin is a liberal by Russian standards. That’s why.

Hjalmar

A liberal? I don’t don’t see that. Instead I see a devout Christian a great patriot and a deep thinker. He is also, famously, a great fighter … Judo-fighter that is.

ATBOTL

He’s liberal by Russian standards just like Woodrow Wilson was liberal by 1910 standards. Putin is not a Russian nationalist in any sense.

Hjalmar

Well, that’s your opinion. I don’t know the man, so maybe you’re right. Who knows?

thoughtful

you have scrambled eggs for brains

jens holm

I hpe some day many more understand more the liberal and conservative. Where is superoligarc crimanal murder no taxpayer in this.

thoughtful

It does seem however that he is reluctant to USE what he has, anxious not to provoke, yet he may as well. The West over reacts to insubordination and were determined to take Russia’s resources for the Blackrock Vanguard who own everything filth. Russia would do better to have the West self restraining as they groan, knowing they cannot go further. He should stand up and tell them STOP, its all over! Give up, the GAME is OVER.

jens holm

Thats worse then normal bias.

Ilya

You are visibly trolling. But yes, he is very liberal economically, to the sense of prioritizing free market and the profit of companies over building a country that is sovereign and works for the society.

He is not a nationalist and looks up to the west as a model as the entire russian elite. And tried as much as possible to keep up in good terms with the west, which only didn’t happen because the west had other ideas.

jens holm

No he is no liberal. Even liberals takes in tax. So in those matters reward plundering.

Russia really need tax for the state. Liberal is not letting 50% of the Oligarc incomes taxed at all.

Thats just an example. It well descriebed by so many. Why the F… dont You learn from that and make the many very needed changes.

jens holm

Sure and the moon is above his head Harry Christmas

Egregius

Are we talking liberal by the North American definition, or the rest-of-the-world definition? Because those are polar opposites.

Ilya

Liberal in the US is a term used to describe social, behavioural attitudes. In the rest of the world, it is about economy. They are not polar opposites, but yes, in the US it broadly means left, and in the world broadly means right.

Putin is definitely liberal economically, and is certainly more liberal (in the sense of social questions) than both right wing nationalists and communists.

jens holm

Thats right. There are many versions.

A third known is the socalled Skandinavian model which has been used as role model for vital changes in USA by SANDERS.

It has what they dont have including all people and equalize. The production rate is very good as well.

None can just change to a new model. That goes for conservatisme and other systems as well.

But we can learn from each other and implement local changes in local contexts.

Ilya

Can’t even compare the Golden Age Scandinavia with Sanders’ program. Olof Palme would be regarded as a hardline commie today.

Olof Palme, the guy who stood up to the CIA and got murdered for it. Back when Sweden was a very relevant diplomatic force despite the small size and one of the richest countries in the world. Good times. Then came neoliberalism…

good4u

That is true. To the surprise of many, Medvedev would take a much harder measures against Ukraine than Putin ever did. Georgia’s war called by Medvedev and not by Putin

thoughtful

Russia could not take on the bully tyrants of NATO, half of the world, the sanctions and all of their weapons, until NOW.

jens holm

We will see if now is now.

thoughtful

Putin was afraid to THEN because the Russian weapons were not built up then, he could not risk a war. So he slowly BUILT up the arsenal of weapons and technology. Russian scientists thank you for helping to defend our WORLD from the tyrants.

jens holm

Its a disfunctional museum of the worst kind.

I feel safer then ever. Russia will not even arrive to Denmark unless they use bicycles and fishing gear.

In Ukraine they only has met a well educated defence miliatary force.

It nor even has maintain unites. It has no capability or soldiers for protecting tanks. It has no air superiority in the air.

It hardly can feed itself having lack of fuel as well.

Russia dont need scientists. Russia need producers and logistics.

Russia also need well educated soldiers. Even spetznazes mainly are 4 years. Russian here need long term officers as well.

The command structure are one stringed. Those killed generals loose their communication to their troops and are killed in the frontlines. Thats the same for the infantiles in Syria.

Even very centralized its very ineffective in those matters too.

Elgar

Russian soldiers have been poorly trained. One of the biggest surprises on war. For instance they were too slow to repair their tanks and engineers incompetent to build bridges. European NATO has now no reason to fear Russian conventional war machine much at all. Incompetence of RF forces similar to that of Red Army during Finnish-Russo Winter War 1939-40.

jens holm

I agree 100%. If I compare the difference is we have fewer but much more well educated soldiers, where a lot of equipment, maintainence and supply semmes much better.

The Russian soldier has not been upgraded. They are added good missiles and a littlle more then that. Its well decriebed A great part of the Nato force are many years soldiers. many has combat experiance and by that in all levels has a veteran know how.

We as contrast also has conscripts which are lower educated then the Russian ones. The Russians are soldiers in 2 yars. Ours might only be 1 year. By that they are not backbone but last defence. They are in as important helping hands for the fighters. They do have a rifle or a machine gun.

Ilya

If European has no reason to fear Russia, why don’t they drop this stupid obsession to instead focus on improving the living standards of Europeans? Probably the money wasted in american weapons and supporting wicked regimes just because they are anti Russia would be good use elsewhere.

Hjalmar

Yes, he is mindful about this sad situation he has been put in. He wants to keep the civilians out of harms way, but has now faced the major obstacle of the Black Beast from the Bible, (that you told me about). Problems, problems, problems.

jens holm

Its very easy. Russia also tryed to Keep Minsk 1 and 2.

I think I agree. After WW1 Denmark could take all land back from Germany we wished for. But we decided to vote the new border.

By that there are friendship. They have their minority here. We have our monority there. Both are given money for culture.

When needed they share hospitals, firebrigade, keeping the nature nice and so on.

The police can cross the borders to the neigbors even with sirenes. By that no criminals down to speed tickets can hide.

The danish schools are very different from the German ones. Even so almost half of the children there are Germans. Some of them speak danish better then us.

Apart from Hitler there has been very good relations ever since.

About Krimera it should have been theopposite way around. Russia should have it renting to Ukras for their ships for free.

Facts are it has not happend. Im sorry for having one more warzone and 30.000 not in their homes even thos many children and women seemes to be nice people. A luck is we actually has many vancant low paid jobs.

Elgar

Boneheaded play by Putin. He’s is far from anykind of chess master of geopolitics. Even more lousy with economic questions.

jens holm

They more or less kept MInsk 2.

Ukras has not kept Minsk 2. Then Russia has staged in the worst probatly propganda. Next they have concluded by those lies(where some are partly true).

And thats what You and the rest f the world see right now. Very much propaganda is to laught at here. It only can be meant for Russians already knowing nothing.

Its not possible for Russians to check up things, when they not even get them.

Ukra and West knows a lot more. None normal ones believe most of the crap. We have journaist there. We have free news sites and refugees here with mobil phones and androids live to family and friends.

By that we can add and subtract the many sources much better.

Ukras do a lot of propaganda, where many things are very biased. Here we use the pocket calculator too.

Its a big risk for any to start a war. So hesitation and being well prepared is a must. You also cna see the sliding by countries giving more and more help to the Ukras. That was not expected. Unfortunatly for Russia they also has lied for themself.

Their military forces are not first class. In the other hand they totally has ignored the modern Ukra military forces.

And You and I might have seen the Russian troops much better then they were in 2015. he main problem is the same today. Its keep.

How can they keep 35 mio hostile Ukras? If they are Russians they are voters for Putin or what?

thoughtful

Russia do not want all of Ukraine. Neither do they want the Nazis or the NATO or nukes there. Russia wants to SAVE the Ukrainians who are GLAD of him.

jens holm

We dont care about what Russia want. Its not their country.

They certainly save people in the hard way. Maybee the hospitals can operate them into constant smiling.

Jack bauer

Ukraine is a fake country. It is Russian clay. Kiev is where Russia was born. It was called Kievan Rus. Look it up. Khazars owned the lands of the south of Ukraine and they were defeated by the Kievan Rus. They then fled westward into Europe where they became known as ashkenazis. The oligarchs in Ukraine and Russia are all khazars. Anthony blinken is a khazar. George Soros is a khazar. Victoria nuland is a khazar. Zelensky is a khazar. Kamala Harris is married to a khazar. Bidens kids married khazars. Trumps kids married khazars. Clinton’s daughter married a khazar. one of bushes daughters married a khazar. Even Putin’s daughter married a khazar. Are you starting to get the picture yet?

Khazars hate Slavs. They want them dead. They want them humiliated. And they think it’s funny.

zulu

Where did you get the idea that the Russia doesn’t want all of Ukraine. Didn’t the Kremlin say a month ago that the goal of the special operation is to denazify Ukraine, how do you think to denazify Ukraine if you take only one part of it and not the whole of Ukraine. If Russia wants to prosper, it must first deal with the post-communist legacy, which even today, 30 years after the fall of communism, is present in the minds of Russian parasites who undeservedly waste oxygen in the cities, Moscow and St Petersburg before all the others, and think someone owes them something.

Ilya

Have you really ever been to Russia? How much krokodil are you injecting to see Moscow and Peterburg as bastions of communism?

Questions

It is a very interesting question. A possible theory is that the US, Russia, and China have already formed a New World Order organization behind the scenes and this is all staged practice for controlling the civilian populations, particularly the US civilian population which is heavily armed, as the world’s oil reserves are now on a downward slope.

thoughtful

There may be players in China who have agreed with the NWO already but does Xi know about it or would he be one of the last to know? There may be PLAYERS in Russia who want the NWO and who may be bribed with their own assets. When one says Russia or China, what and who exactly is meant by that? In the US we can see the deep state at work and the demorats. The politicians in the UK seem to be easily led to accept and do what they are told by those clearly in the deep state’s pocket and who are profiteering from the decisions.

Ilya

Call your doctor and ask him to change your meds

Questions

Putin was at one point a WEF member. I’m just brainstorming possible theories. I myself do not think it is likely that there is a unified NWO. Make an argument… just calling someone crazy is very lazy.

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NDR7652

So which NWO the one lead by Hulk Hogan or the Wolfpac lead by Kevin Nash ???

jens holm

If You cant find Your menthal hospital, You can use a taxi. They know where You live.

JJ345

Ukraine is a testing ground for Russia in my point of view. Who is running the show in Ukraine, the US, and NATO not Ukrainian, now wouldn’t you say it is a great time to study and see the reaction of NATO/US without fighting them face to face.

What’s funny is that even NATO and the US fully know that Ukraine is done for, all they do is send old or about to be expired weapons to Ukraine to slow down Russians. Ofc, make some money for themselves and act as if they did something – morons in West eat their shit none stop, I’m not joking.

Also, the world is seeing the true faces of satanic worshipers again – if a country makes deal with Russia the US of Zion going to remove them – Pakistan was a warning to India. Just read the news about India it is most likely how the West order India to cut ties with Russia 24/7. Now the EU even pushing India to cut ties with Russia.

There are a lot of things we don’t know about…or each side thinking or going to do…

jens holm

Thasts not things are.

jens holm

.Nato was not in Ukraine and Putin has invited them in. We now almost are.

jens holm

Thye have hoped of an easy defeat at the field. Next You dont blow away things, You might need Yourself later.

From start the Ukra troops already was well suppled and well prepared. They did not need mch. They need it now.

Its also easier to take evacuated towns. You always can say the should habve startet 14 days ago or something. Russia only can handle things there in their ususal devastating things to the ground in total destruction.

ATBOTL

Because Russia’s leaders are liberals and incompetent.

Egregius

Yeah, Russian leaders are too soft, that must be it. Can’t be the rampant corruption and nepotism that’s fucking up their operation.

jens holm

Its well descriebed by many Youtubes.

Its not about being soft or not.

Too much looks like Volksturm.

jens holm

…Yes, robbery is liberalisme and taxfree too:)

Egregius

Because they’re running out of long-range missiles (same reason why they’re still using tochka-u’s).

thoughtful

Putin is a soft teddy bear who does not like hurting the ordinary people. As long as he is shrewd and can be tough when he has to be. Gosh if Putin went to war against the UK, I would encourage all to surrender as he would be kinder to us than our own.

Hjalmar

Funny, but also true. lol.

MalcolmXnxx

Why Russia start a war they don’t know how to finish a lot of why Russia question the world wants answered

jens holm

Its very simple. They want to take back as much as they can. They forget most of it taken as forced theft.

A main mistake is theyhave dont treat people, so keep is an option to join.

ATBOTL

Putin and his soviet era ministers are bad at military planning and leadership. They need to be replaced immediately with younger, post-USSR nationalist leaders.

Leland

Aww poor baby Blinky:

Washington is ready to accept a possible peace agreement between Ukraine and Russia, as a result of which Ukraine will become a neutral country, US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken said at a hearing in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

The collapse of the American-centric world is a reality in which one must live and build an optimal line of behavior, Nikolai Patrushev, Secretary of the Security Council of Russia said.

The result of the current policy of the West and the Kyiv regime under its control can only be the disintegration of Ukraine into several states, Patrushev said

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Washington DCorruption

But… but…Tony’s fat black boyfriend Lloyd Ostin just said their goal is to defeat Russia on the battlefield 😄

Geller

They all contradict one another 24/7. Nothing they say can ever be trusted.

jens holm

I see Yiur narrowminded context well. You are used to rught and wrong and 1 solution or possibility only.

You cant even see who decides what, a military oppinion and free speech about it.

jens holm

I see Your narrowminded context well. You are used to right and wrong and 1 solution or possibility only.

You cant even see who decides what, a military oppinion and free speech about it.

Capt. Steven Hiller, USMC

Hahahahahah i know right!!! What the fuck is going on with them!! LOL

jens holm

He is defence minister and has beeen second in the command for their miliatry forces.

What are You? I dont see he is fat as well.

His try is very clear. If the Russians has no more to send, they cant stay there. Thats a win.

ATBOTL

You have to be a moron to think the USA will ever agree to a treaty to keep Ukraine out of NATO.

jens holm

Only You propaganda says Ukraine can be a memeber of Nato as well as EU.

1000s of all kinds of leaders here dont want them. I dont as well.

Your source is Putin has gas only.

No offence we already has many of the Russian leftovers.

Why should any try to take Russia and Russians. They are minus all over.

ATBOTL

America owns NATO and no one else really has a say. The foolishness of many people here is shocking.

jens holm

If so I am happy about it. I mainly also love CIA.

They protect me from someone like You.

jens holm

This os not about what some random ballalajka player in Moskva think.

Its about Ukras rights to decide themself.

Dan

Nobody cares what your gay ass in whatever country you immigrated to cares. The “Ukras”had their run now their song is done.

jens holm

Hard to see how gays are in this.

A banana a day keep Putin away.

Arzt Injektion

“The AFU are suffering heavy losses in the region.” That is an understatement if I ever heard one. It is pure butchery. Ukraine needs to surrender. I support Russia but I don’t want to see a country totally decimated this way.

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Poster

If russia don’t want to see the country decimated, then why it invaded it first case?!? All what is russia capable of is only destruction. If russia was a prosperous country UA would never decided go the democracy way …

Geller

LMAO there is no democracy here in the west. You say the “wrong” thing and you will lose your job and will be “canceled”.

jens holm

There are. You just dont participate.

I see the results. Give me a link for something better.

Good parlementarisme is not only in the top. Its a way of living and deciding.

It pays of. Its very visible in wellfare and living age. Give a link or two for soemting better.

Putin is only expert in Pavlov and Potemkin.

Ghost of M'quve

Sadly, we hardly see the results in tems of literacy…

You are a self-proclaimed Scandinavian (or northern European) with a command of syntax and spelling comparable to that of a ghetto middle school dropout. Is that what you actually are?

Real northern Europeans know very well that their declining Social Democratic heritage is historically inseparable by the 70 years of the Soviet “experiment”.

Also, since you mention social statistics, just check those of the Soviet Union in the ’60 and ’70. See if you can find a better performing “Liberal Democracy”…

jens holm

Sure. But the Social democrats here actually has 25% of the seats in the parlament. They also has the Goerness by the Female Premiere minister.

Where are the communecs in this. Here they are a small fraction of 8%.

We are dong pretty well now in most things.

JJ345

What happened in 2014? What happened in the last 8 years?

Like the fuk are you talking about…we knew this was going to happen for the last 8 fuking years. Ukraine is Russia’s red line, what did you think Russia was only going to talk tough and nothing more as NATO/Wahhabis/yanquis and ZIon start building up next to Russia…

“UA would never decided go the democracy way” – what the fuk is “democracy way” now? Is that the democracy way? Getting a Zion gay as their leader and the country very much being in the hands of Neo-Nazis… No, you are right that sounds VERY much right, I remember Syria and Iraq – they sure as shit saw the “democracy war” thanks to NATO/US and Zion.

Would Ukraine get destroyed if they agreed to not join a terrorist cult? Remember Ukraine was okay with this, no one force them to get NATO in Ukraine right? NATO invaded Iraq with the US, NATO invaded Afghanistan with the US – they will invade any other poor/unstable country as long as the US starts the war…

Now, do you think one of the world’s superpowers would let these terrorists cults build up next to them? No. Remember the biggest enemy of NATO in their story books are the Russians and Chinese.

jens holm

80% took over from 17,8% assisted har by Russian propagands, bajonets and fear.

The change was not nice. Ukraine by that actually went to be its own state as the rights by UN.

You waste so many lines for something uncorrect and devastating wrong.

jens holm

We see the same here. USSR as a system collapsed itself.

The the members want something different and hopefully better. They look around and should have the right tochoose something else.

I see democrasy as having many more deciders, which make any products better unless its made by a machine. Its the same for logistics,

Those changes in USSR and Comecon should have been started 20 years before Gorbatjof and Jeltzin. You cant just give wellfare as state donation. The base is making a middleclass for it. Russia stil hardly has one.

They are the producers handling the advanced things in production and logistics. They also has to be rewarded for it. By that they can help others too. The Proders pay tax and the well paid in jobs pays tax to the cycle.

chilcare,school, education, reward for skills and hard work. You get money for healtcare to all as well as hospital. An when You finally cant work more, You dont have to. You get a pension where You at least has a roof, food, clothe and can be varm no matter what.

Elgar

Without mentioning how poorly Russia operated with COVID 19. Their excess deaths during those 2 years have been staggering 600,000. Another example how incompetent Russian society is compared to China and most of Europe. Very fragile. Seems to be that only glue to unite Russia is rather boring hype of Great Patriotic War. Younger generation Russians need more credible ideas to go forward in 2020’s than those Stalinist myths and legends.

Zero

I totally agree it just mindless slaughter now…it’s seems be mainly just average Ukrainian soldier..while the nazis hide with women & children

ATBOTL

You have to stop this cucky thinking about the “average Ukranians soldier” vs the “nazis.” There is no difference. In a war, all enemy soldiers the the enemy 100% and none is any good or deserves any mercy. If Russias are such fags that they can’t stop simping for the enemy, they deserve to lose every inch of Donbas and Crimea. No one will give Russia credit for starting a war and then not killing the enemy. They will respect you less for being weak.

It’s amazing how Russians think you can fight a war like a simp and they expect to be loved for it.

jens holm

Only 2.15% are nazis there.

Its no Ukranians slaughtering their own population. The invaders do.

Your version of hising is far out and a construction.

MANY MILLONS ARE EVACUTED. They are her where I live too.

You write nonsense. The best would be the Russians had their military forces in own country. You should ask why not.

ATBOTL

“Ukraine needs to surrender.”

Why? Russia has been on the retreat for a month. You can’t retreat and then make demands.

jens holm

Russai has not retreated for a month. They have lost two big battles. The rest is a well planned slow retreat by the Ukras.

Bernard Davis

Idiot, what battles have the Russians lost? The war is basically over; the Ukes are paralysed and now copping hell on earth. They must surrender in the name of humanity.

jens holm

This is meant to be like that. Russains are suffering a lot too.

They have added their leftovers for it.

Elgar

So why is RF military forces unably to take under control much of area since 1 March 2022? The real reason is that Ukrainian losses have not really been as high as Russian military have claimed. Russian military itself have been remarkable incompetent what ever guys like Andrei Martyanov and Scott Ritter are claiming. Clumsy, slow, hesitating and relatively poorly trained and led. Seems to be that only their long range missiles have shown some quality, not their regular “professional” Army or Navy.

Elgar

Heavy losses? Then why is RF hardly advancing at all? I have to admit to have believed first 4 weeks in claims of Ukie high losses but not now. Losses my have been “high” but not even near as high as RF military has claimed. One example is the numbers of Ukies in Mariupol. There were never 14,000 or even 20,000. In fact according RF intelligence 8,100 and even that might be too high. Hundreds of Ukies have managed to escape. The Mariupol is example how relatively small number of Ukie soldiers can block RF forces. When it comes RF forces are even 15% them combat soldiers? Their ability to maintain and service armoured units have been relatively poor, partly even lousy. There are lots of evidence enough to make certain conclusions: RF army is operating surprisingly poorly and shortcomings of even training are obvious.

Bernard Davis

The only tactic the Ukes have is to hide in towns and cities among hostage civilians. They fire from civilian areas and then scream genocide when Russians fire back. That is itself a recognised war crime. In anything like open warfare the Ukes are slaughtered, as is happening right now in the Donbas. Published footage of their masses of mutilated dead are stomach turning.

TomSawyer

Poor russian orcs, dying like flies on the battlefield while the whole world is laughing at their poor performance – even Chinese medias make jokes about the russian orc army 😆😆😆 ^^

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Ghost of Zelensky

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good4u

AZOV heroes successfully destroyed columns (humanitarian aid):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6UOYKQ8JD8

Our brave heroes

PutinsWaffenSS_Division_Wagner

go f your mother jewish parasite

jens holm

He might not live like You jews and parasites.

Rightiswrong

What ‘battlefield’?

It’s a shooting gallery now little boy, and the hohals are being mown down.

jens holm

I dont think You know that. We hardly has any verified informations frm there.

We only know there are hard fightings and many dies.

And his laughing. Its his hopes. As long as Yiu have hope You fight even being a key warrior.

Elgar

Jens, have you ever thought that maybe casualties of Ukies and RF forces have not been as high than claimed and believed? There are not so much combat forces in battlezone than many are thinking. Perhaps people are watching this war from WW2 perspective.

opereta

Better change your name to TomC@ckSucker…… And the Chinese Media is making jokes not about the Russians but all the TomC@ckSuckers of Europe and America. They forced Russia to intervene in Ukraine to destroy Russia but instead, USA, Canada, UK and Europe are in the Death Ward so far

jens holm

I am not laughing. I see up to 50.000 are dead destructions for already poor countries.

I dont get the system. if there is any.

Wizzy

Ain’t no war of attrition here, Russia just in 2nd gear. They can shift anytime they want, civilians are standing in the way

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Very optimistic.

NATO is laughing at you

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Hjalmar

Kiev are receiving tough responses from Russia. Great to hear, but only if it is tough military responses and not “tough talking” coming from the Kremlin, as they now have become something of a laughing stock. Nato seem to have lost all respect for the Russians now. They say what they will, and do what they want. They even helped sinking the Moskva without any response at all.

The Russians should at least have told the US demons that they were going to sink one of their Aircraft carriers in retaliation for the sinking of the Moskva, for that would would have worried them, for sure. So while Putin’s slow war continues to drag on, we can now look forward to a change in Russian attitude.

I hope the writer of this fine article is correct because the whole military apparatus of Russia needs to toughen up and be prepared to unleash hell all over Ukraine ASAP, for as I’ve said before … The only language the Black Beast from the Bible, Nato, a demonic entity from Hell, understands is the language of EXTREME VIOLENCE!

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One small incident could indeed lead to WW3 (=full scale nuclear exchange). Although I’m pretty sure NATO will do something to directly provoke Russia soon. And Russians should be ready to retaliate. If they don’t they will be provoked again even more.

Hjalmar

Yes you’re right. They are in a trap that they can’t really get out of. There is only one solution and that is to attack Ukraine as hard as possible, ASAP. For as long as the fighting takes place in Ukraine Nato can’t really do anything but complain and blame Russia for everything, even the bad weather’

So therefore Russia now needs to wake up pronto from hibernation and let the bear loose so he with his claws can rip the entire Nato machine to pieces and then stomp whats left into the ground till it turns into dust, after which the wind will do the rest by scattering it all in all directions.

jens holm

The provokers are Russia invading ukraine in full scale and its results.

Thats the sliding seen from here. By that we support Ukraine and are not relative neutral any more.

Putin did it. If You dont like, You take in someone else. Most likely million are better then him. Money? He has too.

good4u

Jens, do yourself little favour and read this article

https://labourheartlands.com/jacques-baud-the-military-situation-in-the-ukraine-update/

from former Swiss UN military adviser

jens holm

Its a nice very long link. Thank You for that. But I already has so many versions and wont read much more of it.

But thanks. Nice people give good links now and then.

good4u

ignorance is bliss ;o)

Elgar

Russians can blame only Putin’s decisions if and when Sweden and Finland join to NATO. In few days Nato support increased from 29% to 61%. Now it’s even 64%. In fact he managed to unify NATO than any other crackpot before.

Hjalmar

Yes you’re right. They are in a trap that they can’t really get out of. There is only one solution and that is to attack Ukraine as hard as possible, ASAP. For as long as the fighting takes place in Ukraine Nato can’t really do anything but complain and blame Russia for everything, even the bad weather’

So therefore Russia now needs to wake up pronto from hibernation and let the bear loose so he with his claws can rip the entire Nato machine to pieces and then stomp whats left into the ground till it turns into dust, after which the wind will do the rest by scattering it all in all directions.

(Sorry, I just posted this comment to myself by mistake. It was actually meant for Q and his comment below this one.)

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ATBOTL

The only thing that matters at this point is calling up reserves, radically increasing forces in Ukraine and fighting hard and FAST to take ground. Unrealistic threats to America will not help, only large advances on the ground NOW with no further retreats will help Russia.

Hjalmar

Of course, so why doesn’t Putin realize this? He is genius, after all, something we have to agree on, and a master tactician. And maybe he is controlling the situation perfectly, with his laid back style of waging war? We don’t have all the facts, he does. But you would still think that he should at least send in a hundred thousand new troops. Russia can if they have to get an army of several million men ready for war relatively quickly. But Putin is Putin. He is an enigma.

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ATBOTL

Putin is a liberal who knows nothing of military affairs just like he knows nothing about economics but some cargo-cult level neoliberal talking points.

Putin’s education was to be a police officer or prosecutor. He worked for foreign intelligence, but did not come out of their schools, like many field agents from all countries. He put basically cops in charge of intelligence in Ukraine and the whole Russian government. Shoigu is a cop-adjacent “first responder” type with no military knowledge or experience. He worked with cops his whole career as basically a glorified fire chief. Putin’s clique is cops, prosecutors and judges, not spies. The real spies aka the former KGB First Directorate have been marginalized by Putin. In Russia, power networks come from who you went to school with.

Russia has liberal cops and liberal public relations experts making all the military decisions. That’s why these decisions have sucked so hard and are totally failing.

GameOfThrones

Totally agree. Im following this Russian issues for years.

Putin always slept over all problems.

He maybe did good progress in his 1st 4 years, but latter haven’t achieved almost anything. He looked only about keeping own influence.

If we looking economic issues Russia would need big reforms for long time, that he didn’t provide. He was supporting without reserves tycoons that were all living abroad and pull all money out of Russia for 20 years. For having biggest yachts on world and castles in France. None of them is any capitalist, but almost all just thieves. Even english colonies were not exploited in such a way as Putin allowed to be all the time in Russia. Also Saudi Arabia is “petrol station” but its 25 million citizens have very high standard. Why are in Russia so many poor people?

Also in the field of social status of citizens. By inequality is Russia together with US most unequal of all 1st and 2nd world countries.

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Ilya

Putin is not a genius. He is a neoliberal, rotten to the bone, umbilically linked to vultures that destroyed Russia such as Yeltsin and Sobchak. His biggest concern is not winning the war but managing the assets of companies. This entire pathetic strategy was developed with the goal of saving money. The 90s mentality is alive and kicking in their heads

Elgar

Even those who dislike Putin are amazed how stupid decisions he had made. Before Ukrainian operation most of western so called experts were thinking that Putin is smart and skillful. Not now. He gambled – and is now losing a lot.

Hjalmar

Lets just face the fact here that you are a Putin-hater. No matter what he does you still hate him. I am the total opposite of you. Putin has saved Russia, and you know it. And the Orthodox Church knows it and, of course, the majority of the Russian people.

GameOfThrones

Putin is not any genius.

He is on neoliberal train, obviously without any real economic understanding

With neoliberal ideology and entire tribe of neoliberals in government you cant develop just any country. Which he would obviously like.

And it is additional problem that Russian neoliberals are very, very in competent.

He for example again appointed Nabulina for national bank. This women is making extremely stupid moves all the times. He had floating exchange rate in country that had one if the biggest reserves on world and big surplus. Why? Nobody can undermine currency of such state. But consequence of that was highly volatile exchange rate that caused big inflation in Russia. And to stop this inflation NB is pushing prohibitive high basic interest rates, that blocking all economic development, because with so expensive money nobody will invest inside Russia.

and they are just keeping in this way till these days. Still 17%

jens holm

Its an overoptimistic version. But we have too little facts and too much propagandia as well as guessings and hopes.

To me the Ukras should take some TV towers in Moskva, water to Krimea or the Krimea bridges.

ATBOTL

Tough responses like retreating from half the land captured in the early days of the war and not increasing the forces or calling up reserves? Tough responses like repeated unilateral ceasefires and weak sounding statements from leaders? Tough responses like taking months to destroy key targets like railroad bridge that should have been knocked out in the first hours of the war?

This is more empty bravado with nothing to show for it.

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Hjalmar

I wish I could contradict you, but I don’t think I can

ATBOTL

Real patriots call out bad decisions by leaders. You can find many real patriots on Russian speaking forums. But almost all Russians who speak English and choose to comment on English sites rather than Russian ones are liberals BY RUSSIAN STANDARDS. So they support the war nominally, but also support not fighting hard or trying to win. They want to go soft on the enemy and fight very slowly, as if there is no danger of NATO escalation. liberals have to dis

Same with Southfront, the Saker etc. these people are all liberals by Russian standards who are being payed to give the government line. They were trained in some USSR language school where they learn to write this turgid style of prose that tries to use Latin/Slavic type syntax and grammar instead of proper English syntax and grammar.

It’s all so tiresome.

Elgar

The Saker has no real every day touch to Russian reality. Living in US Deep South while fantasizing being “Russian”. Just like Oxford upper class snob believing to understand realities of British working class poor. We have seen these farces during every generation.

Hjalmar

Reading your great comment, it dawned on me that it actually more or less exactly describes a certain person we often talk about here at SF … Vladimir Putin. So I finally get it, I think, Putin is a liberal by Russian standards.

SuperDave

Alex Jones Infowars GLOBAL EMERGENCY! Russia Says It’s Officially at War With NATO, Warns Nuclear Armageddon IMMINENT WW3 threats SPIKE as Germany sends tanks to Kyiv & Kremlin says it’s at war with NATO Meanwhile, Russia’s foreign minister Sergei Lavrov has warned there is a “real” danger of a third world war breaking out after a day of apparent Ukrainian attacks on Russian soil.

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RichardD

For it to be a war of attrition both sides would have to be suffering significant losses. That’s not happening in this war.

“Attrition warfare is a military strategy consisting of belligerent attempts to win a war by wearing down the enemy to the point of collapse through continuous losses in personnel and materiel.”

– Attrition Warfare –

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attrition_warfare

I would agree that the Russian forces are using attrition of the Ukrainian forces in conjunction with measured advances. Saying that the Ukrainian forces are using attrition against the Russian forces would be a stretch. To the extent that it’s a war of attrition, it’s a one sided war of attrition. Because only the Ukrainian side is experiencing collapse. The Russian side isn’t anywhere near it.

In a larger sense it could be considered a war of attrition if you take the economic and political warfare being waged by the NATO Jew World Order against Russia. But from a purely battlefield military perspective. Only the Ukrainian force is suffering attrition. On the Russian side it’s a war of conservation, not only of forces, but of territory gained. Because the Russians want to acquire territory with the minimum property damage and civilian loss of life. So that these areas can be incorporated into the Russian economic sphere at the lowest possible rebuilding costs. At the expense of Ukraine and their NATO Jew World Order masters.

Attrition implies that the sides are somewhat evenly matched, and are trying to exhaust each other’s resources through destroying the other sides personnel and material. The only side suffering significant destruction is Ukraine. Russia is suffering almost no losses in personnel and material compared to the massive losses being suffered by the Ukrainian military.

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ATBOTL

If Ukraine is experience collapse now, Russia would be making big gains instead of retreating for a month.

RichardD

Russia can make big gains, but not at an acceptable cost in death and destruction. That’s why the advance is slower than it could be if collateral damage was less of a consideration.

A retreat is when an opposing force is unable to hold ground and falls back. A withdrawal is when an opposing force can hold ground, but chooses to redeploy to other areas for various reasons. The Russian pull back from Kiev was a withdrawal, not a retreat. The advance on Kiev served it’s purpose of holding a significant part of the Ukrainian military in place. And when that purpose was served. The Kiev force was withdrawn.

GameOfThrones

What you explained It is all miscalculation. Big one. Because you assume that opposite side will wait till you come slowly to its territory to “retake it without casualty ”. In practice is just opposite. In time that were given they brought a lit of weapon, mobilise troops, dig deep. And even kill local Russian speakers.

How much would cost some bridges or building to repair if war would go faster?

In comparison with slow war in which obviously now everything should be bombed, otherwise Ukraine forces dont move out?

Or what would be cost difference if Russia would go first day in Ukraine with million army (easy with reserve) and conquere Russian territories. And make frontline to the rest?

RichardD

The defending UAF are decimated and their fortified positions are destroyed before the RAF moves forward to mop up what’s left. That takes time.

The UAF has had 8 years to dig in. A few months will make little difference.

The cost to move a million RAF would be exponentially higher. And overrunning UAF positions before they’re mitigated would result in much higher RAF losses. And involve a lot more collateral damage.

Elgar

The trend of military casualties are showing sharp decline though fire power has also sharply increased. Why? Simple because there are now fewer and fewer combat soldiers per frontile combat zone km2. 200 years ago there might have been even 5,000 soldiers per km2. Now hardly more than 5-10 on avarage. There is no need to keep hundreds of soldier per km2 because few soldiers have quite a lot of firepower.

Rosza Miklos

Russia is under assault by NATO using Ukraine as a mere proxy. NATO troops are already in Ukrainian territory using their advanced military weapons. Please Russia, realize you are being attacked by the West with intent to take over your country while splitting up your oblasts to be ruled by this sly, and devious invasion pretending to be Ukrainian troops. I hope Russia you can reestablish the equivalent of the Warsaw Pact that you had under the Soviet Union. The West is not your friend. I hope, you Russia, can defeat the criminal intentions of the West without resorting to Nuclear weapons.

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Egregius

You forgot a number of fires. Besides the oil depot and military base, a meat processing plant and Agroprom Komplekt were also burning in Bryansk. This is after the chemplant, weapons lab and warehouse where another defense company was located, and simultaneous with 5 recruitment centres being firebombed and the fire in Ussuriysk, in the far East.

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Ilya

So in other words: the “tough response” was their usual “high precision missiles” that seem to have achieved fuck all in two months, and the frontline didn’t move an inch forward, because Novotoshkovskoye was taken at least four days ago.

Same as the mytical liberation of Kremenaya, which was announced with fanfarre as it was Stalingrad for three or four days in a row. I had to check in the map if there were multiple cities with that name.

Ah yes, and they managed to lose an airplane to a bunch of farmers. 30 years of crony capitalism and oligarchs with their children in the west and the Red Army became this.

I see to finally agree with the khokhols: send Putin to Hague. Better, send him to hell.

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RichardD

Ukraine has lost 10 to 20 times the personnel and material that Russia has. If Russia was losing the Russian military would have been pushed back into Russia and the conflict would be being fought on Russian territory. The exact opposite is happening. Russia controls a significant amount of Ukrainian territory while Ukraine controls zero Russian territory.

Ilya

Ukraine lost ten times more soldiers yet Russia advanced barely an inch since early March? Stop fooling yourself

I am om Russia’s side. That is why I am calling out the impostors and traitors in this government. At this moment Putin is causing more damage to Russia than NATO

RichardD

The internet is full of UAF death videos. I haven’t seen anything similar for the RAF. It took years to clear Syria from 10% to 70% of territory under Syrian Government control.

Show us your Rambo plan for defeating the UAF, which outnumbers the RAF in theater by 5 to 1, maybe higher. With the monetary, personal, equipment and collateral damage costs compared to the current progress.

Mariupol, one of Ukraine’s 10 largest cities, was cleared since March. Which was no small feat. And dozens of smaller settlements have been cleared and captured during the same time. With minimal RAF personal and equipment losses. Which would be even lower if Ukraine wasn’t full of NATO specop personal and equipment with full satcom support.

The UAF had also lost massive amounts of equipment during the same time. With almost certainly thousands of dead and injured. And a lot of captured and surrendered. With nothing comparable suffered by the RAF.

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RichardD

How is Putin causing more damage to Russia than NATO? While fighting a war that is bringing in up to $1 billion a day in additional revenue from oil and gas while bleeding NATO with the costs of subsidizing the Ukraine economic basket case? And paying much higher fuel costs?

Ilya

I thought the point of the war was to liberate Donbass and not to raise gas prices

Elgar

So why front line is not moving at all? That’s the real traumatic fact making most pro Russia fanboyz uneasy. The simple truth: Ukrainian losses have been not near as high as fanboyz are fantasizing. They have been higher than official Ukrainian figures but much lower than RF military has claimed.

RichardD

The front lines are moving in Russia’s favor. The vids of UAF dead are voluminous.

MalcolmXnxx

Tough response Russia been in the same piston for a month haha

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Elgar

Their military incompetence has been revieled. Soldiers too poorly trained.

Elgar

It’s well known fact that enemy losses has during military history always been exaggerated. I neither believe claims of Russian military nor those of Ukrainian military. Real losses have been hardly more than 20-35% of those claims. On the other hand RF and Kiev regime has not revealed their true own losses either.

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concerned

look for Zelensky’s wife and parents

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David JS

Flood the steelworks and the rats will come out

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John Tosh

Zelenskyy gets his energy “ all day “ from snorting cocaine. So Western media created a fake video by deleting the cocaine on Zelenskyys desk to help him.

The Western G7 have been supporting a drug addict who does not care about Ukrainian women and children or even Ukrainian soldiers as long as he gets his cocaine, money and video roles all signed up.

These are the types of leaders the seven headed monster (G7) is pushing on the planet. The CIA (prostitute in the Biblical book of Revelations) is riding on the G7. Soon European countries will start turning on the CIA. They will tear the CIA apart for a simple reason.

The CIA has been manipulating elections in the G7 countries to maintain their people in power. Macron did not win the French elections. The CIA put Macron back in power by manipulating the election results. This is why France is having internet problems right now. The coalition of data about the recently concluded French election needs to wipe out all evidence of the election fraud.

Welcome to the G7 Dragon with seven heads. The ten horns include Poland, Ukraine and the rest of the rigged elections. The ten other countries will have CIA installed Presidents for a very short time (Bible says they will be given power to serve the G7 for a Biblical Hour)

The end of the G7 and the CIA is occurring right before our very eyes. Russia is a catalyst of the demise of the evil Dragon and her prostitute.

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Rodney Loder.market

There probably is no hostages in Azovstal iron and steel plant. The West seems to be gambling on Russia wanting to exit the war, a lot of people in Australia are starting to believe their own hysterics, so how are they going to feel when it all becomes obvious that satan has been dangling his bait, Ukraine is not like Afghanistan, a Country that just doesn’t matter so they (the US) could claim the moon and the stars even though they were wrong about everything. In Afghanistan there were no consequences.

But Ukraine is a world view game changer.

Russia is on track to join up with Transnistria and Russians love their President, how can US and Australia live with that outcome ?. They won’t be able too, Russia knows that, Australia is the sick man of the Pacific a sickness we caught from the USA, so unfortunately the war will continue for 3 to 5 years this is to help Australia get over it slowly while allowing the US time to recover their composure and not freak out too badly.

However I must say if the Ukranians continue to attack Russia proper and use modern weapon to shoot down F34’s the war might end more quickly, although I can’t see Russia rebuilding western Ukranian cities and the West won’t be allowed in.

So who’s going to do the job when there are no more western Ukranians?.

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ATBOTL

The only “tough response” from Russia has been massive retreats and a stubborn, foolish refusal to mobilize reserves.

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Richard

We have to fight back and expose Klaus Schwab and All active WEF members, World wide! Their Evil as Hell!

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Oy!

If we remove Putin and his kgb oligarchs from power, Russia could actually become a democratic republic with free elections etc. We can also in theory join the EU, right? Russia is much better asset to the EU than Bulgaria, no? I would rather see Russia as a part of the EU than fighting against Ukraine and entire civilised World

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