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The Saker: “Debunking the rumors about Russia caving in to Israel”

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The Saker: "Debunking the rumors about Russia caving in to Israel"

Written by The Saker; Originally appeared at The Unz Review

This Spring saw a sudden increase in the volume of articles in the so-called “alternative media and blogosphere” about Putin “selling out” Syria or Iran to the Israelis and their US patrons, or both. What was particularly interesting about this campaign is that it was not triggered by any kind of event or statement by Putin or any other senior Russian decision-makers. True, Israeli politicians made numerous trips to Russia, but each time they walked away without anything tangible to show for their efforts. As for their Russian counterparts, they limited themselves to vague and well-intentioned statements. Nonetheless, the “Putin sold out to Netanyahu” campaign did not stop. Every meeting was systematically interpreted as The Clear Proof that the Zionists control the Kremlin and that Putin was doing Netanyahu’s bidding. The fact that this campaign began ex nihilo did not seem to bother most observers. Soon I started getting steady streams of emails asking me to react to these articles. My reply was always the same one: let’s do the opposite of what these supposed “specialists” are doing and wait for the facts to come out and only then form an opinion.

Truth be told, I had already tackled that canard in my article “Why is Putin “allowing” Israel to bomb Syria.” I also had tried to debunk some of the most persistent and toxic falsehoods about Russia and Israel in my article “Putin and Israel: A Complex and Multi-Layered Relationship.” I also wrote an article entitled “Is Putin Really Ready to “Ditch” Iran?” trying to debunk that stupid theory. Finally, I even tried to compare and contrast the Russian approach towards Israel (which I qualified as “self-interest”) with the attitude of the “collective West” (which I qualified as “prostitution”) in an article entitled “Russia, Israel and the Values of “Western Civilization” – Where Is the Truth?”.

I was naïve to think that any of my arguments would elicit any doubts amongst the “Putin is a traitor” crowd. After all, if being wrong for years could not convince them otherwise, no rational argument would.

Then, news agencies began to report that General Nikolai Patrushev, the Director of the Russian Federal Security Service and the Secretary of the Security Council of Russia, would travel to Israel to meet with John Bolton and Bibi Netanyahu. At this point, the steady stream of concerned emails suddenly turned into a deluge! After all, why would such a high-ranking (and rather secretive) Russian official travel to Israel to meet two of the worst and most evil politicians of the Anglo-Zionist Empire? Surely, he had something important to say, no? The consensus (of sorts) was that Patrushev would sell out Iran and Syria in exchange for some (entirely theoretical, quite unlikely and inevitably vague) “concessions” on the Ukraine, Crimea or sanctions.

My reply remained the same. Let’s wait until these folks actually meet and let’s see if their meeting brings about something significant (as a rule, I find getting facts an essential first step before engaging in any analysis; apparently, my detractors feel otherwise).

So, again, I decided to wait.

Then something weird happened: the meeting took place, it was even reported (albeit mostly in general terms), the participants issued their statements and… …nothing. The outcome of the “Jerusalem summit” was greeted by a deafening silence and a few vapid commentaries. My first hunch was that, as the Russian saying goes, the “mountain had given birth to a mouse” and that nothing of importance came out of the summit. Boy, was I ever wrong!

The official Russian position on Iran

The summit *did* indeed produce something of vital significance, but for some reason, the most senior-official statement on Iran that any Russian decision-maker ever made received very little attention. Unless you happened to be a Saker blog reader, you would never find out about it.

See for yourself and click here: http://thesaker.is/russias-patrushev-holds-press-conference-following-russia-us-israeli-talks/ for both the video and the transcript.

To my knowledge, this is the only full-length English language transcript of Patrushev’s statement. (Ruptly posted a video dubbed in English, but it was hardly noticed. As for the transcript, to my knowledge it was never reposted in full).

Which is too bad, since the following words have now been spoken by one of the most authorized and high-ranking Russian officials to date: (emphasis added)

“We have emphasized an importance of easing of the tensions for the country (Syria) between Israel and Iran, by the way of implementation the mutual approaching steps. We have made an emphasis that Syria must not be turned into an arena for geopolitical confrontation. We have also highlighted the need for the international community to help Syria to rebuild its national economy. Among other things, Syria should be free of illegal trade restrictions, unilateral sanctions, as well as sanctions on economic operators that help Syria to rebuild. They also have to be free from all sanctions.

We also turned everyone’s attention to the relations of Syria and other Arab states that should be normalized again. Syria is once again should be a full-fledged member of the Arab League. Also, we pointed out an importance of establishing the contacts of Syrian government with its Kurdish ethnic minority. We stated of importance to unite the efforts to eliminate all remaining in Syria terrorists. We called for immediate disruption of all channels through which terrorists might be able to obtain weapon grade chemical materials and their precursors.

Russia, the United States and Israel should join their efforts to help peace to return to Syria.

In the context of the statements made by our partners with regard to a major regional power, namely Iran, I would like to say the following: Iran has always been and remains our ally and partner, with which we are consistently developing relations both on bilateral basis and within multilateral formats,

This is why we believe that it is inadmissible to describe Iran as the major threat to the regional security and, moreover, to put it on par with the Islamic State or any other terrorist organization, Especially, since Iran contributes substantial efforts to bring peace to Syria and to stabilize the situation in Syria.

We have called on our partners to show restraint and readiness for reciprocal steps, which must serve as the basis for the consistent advancement towards the easing of tensions in the Israeli-Iranian relations”

To my knowledge, this is the very first time that Russia has officially declared Iran not only as a partner but as an ally! A few days later, President Putin confirmed that this was an official position which had his imprimatur when he stated in his interview to the FT that:

“We have established sufficiently good business-like relations with all regional countries, and our positions in the Middle East region have become more stable. Indeed, we have established very good, business-like, partner-like and largely allied relations with many regional countries, including Iran, Turkey and other countries”

This is absolutely huge, especially considering that, unlike Eltsin’s “democratic” Russia or western politicians, Putin does not abandon his allies (if anything, he sometimes defends them for too long even when they have been found guilty of dishonorable actions). Let me repeat this:

Russia has declared that Iran is her *ally*.

The official Russian position on Syria

Next, let’s parse the Patrushev statement once again for some specifics about Syria:

  1. Israel does not get to impose its will upon Syria. (“Syria must not be turned into an arena for geopolitical confrontation “).
  2. All sanctions against Syria must be lifted. (“Syria should be free of illegal trade restrictions, unilateral sanctions, as well as sanctions on economic operators that help Syria to rebuild. They also have to be free from all sanctions“).
  3. The Arab League must fully reinstate Syria. (“Syria once again should be a fully-fledged member of the Arab League”).
  4. All the remaining terrorists in Syria must be eliminated. (“unite the efforts to eliminate all remaining terrorists in Syria”).

It sure looks to me that Russia’s commitment to Syria’s integrity and freedom is as strong as ever.

Does that look to you like Russia and Israel are working hand-in-hand in Syria?

If so, please read the following for a quick reality check (excerpt from this article):

The initial AngloZionist plan was to overthrow Assad and replace him with the Takfiri crazies (Daesh, al-Qaeda, al-Nusra, ISIS – call them whatever you want). Doing this would achieve the following goals:

  1. Bring down a strong secular Arab state along with its political structure, armed forces, and security services.
  2. Create total chaos and horror in Syria justifying the creation of a “security zone” by Israel not only in the Golan but further north.
  3. Trigger a civil war in Lebanon by unleashing the Takfiri crazies against Hezbollah.
  4. Let the Takfiris and Hezbollah bleed each other to death, then create a “security zone,” but this time in Lebanon.
  5. Prevent the creation of a Shia axis Iran-Iraq-Syria-Lebanon.
  6. Break up Syria along ethnic and religious lines.
  7. Create a Kurdistan which could then be used against Turkey, Syria, Iraq, and Iran.
  8. Make it possible for Israel to become the uncontested power broker in the Middle-East and force the KSA, Qatar, Oman, Kuwait, and all others to have to go to Israel for any gas or oil pipeline project.
  9. Gradually isolate, threaten, subvert, and eventually attack Iran with a broad regional coalition of forces.
  10. Eliminate all center of Shia power in the Middle-East.

That was an ambitious plan, but the Israelis felt pretty confident that their US vassal-state would provide the resources needed to achieve it. Now this entire plan has collapsed due to the very high effectiveness of an informal but yet formidable alliance between Russia, Iran, Syria, and Hezbollah. To say that the Israelis are seething with rage and in a state of total panic would be an understatement. Do you think I am exaggerating? Then look at it from the Israeli point of view:

  1. The Syrian state has survived, and its armed and security forces are now far more capable than they were before the war started (remember how they *almost* lost the war initially? The Syrians bounced back while learning some very hard lessons. By all reports, they improved tremendously, while at critical moments Iran and Hezbollah were literally “plugging holes” in the Syrian frontlines and “extinguishing fires” on local flashpoints. Now the Syrians are doing a very good job of liberating large chunks of their country, including every single city in Syria).
  2. Not only is Syria stronger, but the Iranians and Hezbollah are all over the country now, which is driving the Israelis into a state of panic and rage.
  3. Lebanon is rock solid; even the latest Saudi attempt to kidnap Hariri is backfiring.
  4. Syria will remain unitary, and Kurdistan is not happening. Millions of displaced refugees are returning home.
  5. Israel and the US look like total idiots and, even worse, as losers with no credibility left.

The simple truth is that Russia foiled *ALL* the Israeli plans for Syria. All of them!

This is an extremely important statement. It is also a somewhat ambiguous one since “ally” means different things to different people. The Allied Powers during WWII included the Anglo nations and the Soviet Union, which did not prevent the western powers to plot and conspire to attack and destroy their putative “ally” (who happened to have destroyed about 80% of the Nazi war machine).

[Sidebar: for those who need a reminder of how the West treats its allies, here is a small memento with three examples of how the West planned to “solve the Russian problem”:

  • Plan Totality (1945): earmarked 20 Soviet cities for obliteration in a first strike: Moscow, Gorki, Kuybyshev, Sverdlovsk, Novosibirsk, Omsk, Saratov, Kazan, Leningrad, Baku, Tashkent, Chelyabinsk, Nizhny Tagil, Magnitogorsk, Molotov, Tbilisi, Stalinsk, Grozny, Irkutsk, and Yaroslavl.
  • Operation Unthinkable (1945) assumed a surprise attack by up to 47 British and American divisions in the area of Dresden, in the middle of Soviet lines. This represented almost a half of roughly 100 divisions (ca. 2.5 million men) available to the British, American and Canadian headquarters at that time. The majority of any offensive operation would have been undertaken by American and British forces, as well as Polish forces and up to 100,000 German Wehrmacht soldiers.
  • Operation Dropshot (1949): included mission profiles that would have used 300 nuclear bombs and 29,000 high-explosive bombs on 200 targets in 100 cities and towns to wipe out 85% of the Soviet Union’s industrial potential at a single stroke. Between 75 and 100 of the 300 nuclear weapons were targeted to destroy Soviet combat aircraft on the ground.

I could also list all the so-called “allies” the West has ditched, betrayed and even murdered since WWII, but that would take too many pages]

So what does Russia mean exactly when she says that Iran is her “ally”?

Patrushev uses the words партнер (partner) and союзник (ally). Just as in English, the word “partner” evokes some community of interests and collaboration but is generally value-neutral. This is why Russian politicians sometimes even speak of countries hostile to Russia as “partners.” Not only are they sarcastic, but “partner” does not invoke any particular feeling or moral obligation on anybody’s part. Partner is just a polite word, nothing more.

The word “ally,” however, is a much stronger one which implies not only common interests but also a real, sincere friendship and a common stance against a common enemy. Unless it is used sarcastically, the term “soiuznik” strongly implies a mutual moral obligation.

It remains unclear what that really means in the case of Iran and Russia. Theoretically, having a common enemy attack one of the members of an alliance (“soiuz”) could mean that Russia would intervene and offer military support or even directly intervene herself. I doubt that Patrushev (or anyone else in the Kremlin) has this kind of intervention in mind, if only for one reason which is that there would be very little, if any, popular support for a war against the USA for the sake of Iran. A much more realistic interpretation of Patrushev’s words would be that:

  1. Russia will not “sell-out” Iran to anybody in any way, shape or form.
  2. If Iran is attacked, Russia will offer her total support short of any direct military intervention.

Total support short of any direct military intervention is what the USSR offered the DPRK and, even more so, to Vietnam, and in both cases, the West was eventually defeated. Also, “short of any direct military intervention” does not mean “no military aid”: sending military equipment and instructors, is also below the threshold of “direct military intervention,” as would be the case with political and economic support. Furthermore, Russia has formidable intelligence and reconnaissance capabilities which could play a crucial role in helping Iran resist an AngloZionist attack (look at what Russian radars, electronic warfare, and battle management systems have done to the effectiveness of US and Israeli attacks against Syria!).

Let’s also remember the nature of the Iranian theater of military operations: Iran is a huge country with a very large population (80M+). What this means is that Iran cannot be taken over in a ground invasion. That, in turn, means that the resistance of the Iranian people will never be crushed. And that, in turn, means that there is no need for Russia to prevent a military takeover of Iran. All Russia needs to do is to give Iran the means to effectively resist and the rest will happen naturally (just like Hezbollah did in 2006 against Israel when Iran did not intervene directly and militarily, but simply gave Hezbollah the means to beat back the “only Jewish democracy in the Middle-East”).

Besides, Iranians are fiercely patriotic, and they would probably not welcome any visible Russian military intervention in their country anyway (they won’t say “no” to covert aid, especially not the IRGC). This is a wise approach, especially when compared to cowardly little statelets which always want one occupier to boot out a previous occupier (think Poland, the Baltic statelets or the Nazi-occupied Ukraine nowadays).

Finally, Russia is not acting by herself or in a vacuum: the Chinese have made numerous statements (see herehere or here) showing that Iran also has their backing, which resulted in a state of consternated shock amongst MAGA fanboys. The fact that the US’s “European allies” seemed to be getting cold feet about this entire project (attacking Iran on behalf of Israel, blowing-up the entire Middle-East while bringing down the world economy) only adds to their distress.

[Sidebar: the USN should rent out a few transport/amphibious assault ships, fill them up with Polaks, Balts, Ukies, and Georgians and send them to fight for “the USA” (i.e., for Israel, of course). After all, these folks are locked in a desperate competition to see who of them can brown-nose the Empire the deepest, so why not give them a way to prove their unfailing loyalty to “western values” and the rest of the propaganda nonsense the legacy corporate Ziomedia feeds us (and them!) on a daily basis]

Will any of the above affect the “Putin is a traitor” or “Putin works for Bibi” crowd?

Facts? No! Who needs facts?

No, most probably not. What they will do is just ignore Patrushev’s very official statement just like they have ignored all the facts since they began predicting a “Grand Russian Betrayal” for no less than 5 years now, even if proved wrong every time: remember their whining about Syria “losing” its (utterly useless, dangerous and expensive to destroy) chemical weapons? What about their whining about Russia not doing enough for Novorussia? Or their whining about the Russians being “soft” on Israel after the Israelis caused the loss of a Russian recon aircraft? All these folks who present to us the “proof” that Putin, Bolton, and Netanyahu are “in cahoots”, and have predicted that Patrushev would “sell out” are now very busy looking somewhere else for evidence of Russia’s subservience to Israel.

At the time of writing (July 2nd), the Israelis have yet again conducted an airstrike on Syria, killing four people including a baby. The MI6 sponsored “The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights” reported that “at least ten targets were hit in Damascus while a scientific research center and a military airbase were attacked in Homs.” Sounds quite impressive, no?

Actually, no.

For one thing, to evaluate the effectiveness of an airstrike, you don’t list targets, you make a bomb damage assessment (BDA) to ascertain what in reality sustained a hit, and how severely. Now, the Zionist propaganda always issues triumphant reports about how the invincible Israeli air force can make minced meat out of any Russian (or other) air defense system. Some, for example, have already concluded that the Israelis have “neutralized” the S-300 system while others go even further and claim that Russia either “approved” the Israeli attack or even “coordinated” it!

The Russian military has a saying “гражданский – это диагноз” which can be roughly translated as “civilian – that is a diagnosis.” In the case of these ignorant and even silly articles about the Russian air defenses in Syria (“the S-300 don’t work!!!”), that is precisely the case: these are civilians who have no understanding whatsoever of military matters in general, and even less so of air defense topics.

In my article “S-300 in Syria – a Preliminary Assessment,” I explained that:

Sooner or later, however, we can be pretty confident that both the Israelis and the US will have to try to strike Syria again, if only for PR purposes. In fact, this should not be too difficult for them, here is why: First, and contrary to what is often claimed, there are not enough S-300/S-400’s in Syria to indeed “lock” all of the Syrian airspace. Yes, the Russians did create a de-facto no-fly zone over Syria, but not one which could withstand a large and determined attack. What the combined Russian and Syrian forces have done so far is to deny some specific segments of the airspace above and around Syria to the AngloZionist aggressors. This means that they can protect some specific, high-value targets. However, as soon as the US/Israelis get a feel for what has been deployed and where, and how this entire integrated air defense network works, they will be able to plan strikes which, while not terribly effective, will be presented by the propaganda machine as a major success for the AngloZionists. (…) So, all the AngloZionists really need to do is to be very careful in their choice of paths of approach and choice of targets, use low-RCS aircraft and missiles under the cover of a robust EW engagement and then use a large enough number of missiles to give the appearance that the Empire has defeated the Russian and Syrian air defenses.

This is *exactly* what we are witnessing now. How do we know that? After all, we don’t have access to classified BDAs. True. What we can do is use Christ’s wise words and “judge a tree by its fruits” and notice that no amount of Israeli airstrikes in Syria have made any difference. Not only that, but we also know the kind of sustained air campaign which would be needed to meaningfully impact the Syrian armed forces, Hezbollah, the Iranians or the Russians. It sure ain’t what we have seen since the Russians beefed up their air defenses in Syria.

By the way, the SOHR article mentioned above also makes a mistake saying that a “scientific research center” was attacked. Why does this matter? Well, since we know that Syria has no nuclear, chemical or bacteriological research program or weapons, we can immediately conclude that whatever the “scientific research center” was doing (assuming this was not some empty building in the first place) was not something relevant to the Syrian war effort. In other words, this “scientific research center” was chosen as a symbolic target which, for all we know, might not even have been protected in the first place. However, “Israel destroys secret Syrian research center” sounds oh-so-triumphant and presents that it was well worth attacking that target. Heck, the SOHR article even mentions destroyed *orchards* (I kid you not!). I am sure that Hezbollah and the IRGC were both very impressed by the Israeli military prowess and totally heartbroken to have been deprived of their precious orchards :-)

My question to the “Putin is a Zioagent” folks is: why in the world would you expect the Syrians or the Russians to defend empty buildings or orchards from Israeli airstrikes anyways?

Conclusion 1: Putin, the traitor? Hardly!

My regular readers will know that my support for the Kremlin is a sincere one, but also a critical one. Not only do I not believe in flag-waving (called “hat tossing” in Russian), but I do also believe that there is a very dangerous and toxic 5th column inside the Russian elites working to subordinate Russia to the Empire. So while I sometimes like to call myself a “Putin fanboy” or “Putin groupie,” I do that only in a tongue-in-cheek manner. In reality, I believe that Russia in general, and Putin specifically, actually need the criticism of those who want to see Russia truly become a sovereign nation again. So I am all for being critical of Putin and Russia. However, not all criticisms are equal or offered in a sincere spirit.

I have concluded that the folks at Langley (and elsewhere) have figured out that accusing Putin of being a journalist-murdering dictator or a nationalist freak who wants to restore the Russian Empire have entirely failed (especially inside Russia). So they switched strategies and have embarked on a major strategic PSYOP we could call “Putin the traitor”: instead of moaning about Putin being too much of a Russian patriot, they have now decided to paint him as a “not sincerely patriotic” and, truth be told, that new strategy has proven much more effective, especially against the background of the Medvedev government continuing to champion socially reactionary policies.

In fact, I suspect that Patrushev’s statement was, at least in part, designed to debunk the canard about Russia ditching either Iran or Syria. Not only that, but since the Director of the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) and Secretary of the Security Council of Russia has made the Russian support for Iran crystal clear, this will now force the 5th columnists to either shut up or face sanction.

Will the putatively pro-Russian “useful idiots” who spent so much energy trying to convince everybody that Putin was Netanyahu’s puppet learn their lesson? I doubt it. In fact, I don’t think that they will ever admit being wrong: they will explain-away Patrushev’s statement as “empty talk” or something similar and resume their mantras (which is the only thing which gives them “click-visibility” anyway).

Let’s sum up what we all could observe: Russia remains the single biggest “resistance nation” on the planet (the other contender for the top position would, obviously, be Iran). The “Putin betrayed” folks have been denouncing a Russian betrayal for at least five years. The fact that no such betrayal ever materialized has had no impact on those who are little more than useful tools for the Empire. Expect more “Putin the traitor” and “IDF defeats S-300s” articles in the future (the only way to stop them would be to stop clicking on their bait-titles which would force them to find a new source of revenue; I am not holding my breath on this one).

Conclusion 2: back to reality

In the real world the most interesting questions now are 1) how viable the current partnership between Russian and Turkey will prove over time and 2) how strong the Russian-Iranian alliance will become. It is also unclear what role the SCO will play or whether the SCO will grow more impressive military “teeth” (so far, at least as far as I know, no SCO member state has offered military help to Russia). And finally there is the big question of what China will do.

For the time being we see the Empire spewing a lot of hot air and making threats to an almost endless list of countries, while the Israelis engage in what I would call “murder psychotherapy” (which is all that IDF strikes really are) to keep their racist delusions afloat. And while the AngloZionists maniacally pursue these (pretend-)strategies, the rest of the world is building an alternative to the AngloZionist Hegemony. Will the leaders of the Empire prefer a massive war to a quiet (and rather pathetic) self-destruction of the Empire? Looking at the faces of Trump, Pompeo or Bolton, I can’t say that I feel very reassured. Yet I remain hopeful that I will see the day come when the USA, Russia and Palestine are all liberated from their oppressors and recover their full sovereignty.

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  • Dawn

    Saker has a very good analytical mind.. Very nicely put together..

  • Jean de Peyrelongue

    “Israel’s Latest Strikes in Syria Prove that the US-Russia-Israel Jerusalem National Security Summit Was a Success” by Andrew Korybko is fascinating because it gives the war against Iran a high probability.
    The agreement reached in Israel between Russia, the US and Israel has conforted the US and Israel that Russia will stays neutral in such conflict. But I am not sure that Russia has understood what is the objective of this war.
    The real objectif of this war is to plunge the Middle-East including Saudi-Arabia in chaos, and thus by choking the M.E. oil production to trigger a world-wide economic crisis.

    China, India and Japan will be facing a major energy shortage which will reduced drastically their production. Europe will be facing chaos, being bankrupted and invaded by refugees.

    The surge of the price of oil will save the US oil industry and money will flow back to the US as never before for it will be the only haven for the wealthy peoples.

    Rav Ron Chaya is predicting that war for mid-july, but and with such scenario, New-York will become the new Jerusalem for Israel will be in no better shape than the whole M.E.

    • occupybacon

      This war would be of great benefit for the big oil producers like USA and Russia, but Israel would be in great danger, as ME would look nothing like before.

      • Jean de Peyrelongue

        I agree ; once more the Jews will have to move for a while The US wich is already a Jewish country will welcome theirs brothers Israelis. It is a price to pay in order bring a major blow to China and all its future projects . They need to extend their power all over the world before the retrun of the Messiah to Jerusalem. Israel ‘s creation has been premature.

        • occupybacon

          Yep, Israel is becoming harder to protect. The Lebanon war in 2006 dispatched 140k jews from north Israel, just because Hezbollah were firing some cheap rockets every day.

          Causalities were not big but the Air defense missiles are too expensive and inefficient for swarms of projectiles fired just from few km’s away.

          Moving great numbers of people from a place to another is not sustainable for any country economy.

          The technology boom makes cheap toys being as advanced as arms that in the past were considered ‘intelligent weapons’ and the global market makes easy to transport them from China to ME.

          I believe moving all Israelis on USA could be a real option in the near future.

    • verner

      if you can call a meeting a success where one party tells the other parties that Iran is an ally and that it will continue to participate in the sale of Iran’s oil and that existing barter deals will be honoured (I know, that’s a concept unknown to both the squatters and the disunited states of A) and also that the russian, who was a lowly secretary of the national security board (which would tell you the significance russia put on the meeting) and that russia moreover insisted that israel’s nukes had to be accounted for and certain issues pertaining to the non-proliferation agreement. the squatters’ attack on Damascus was nothing else than a sore losers reaction under the security blanket that the disunited states of A provides for the squatters. syria can live with such impotent attacks since its the squatters that is losing any credibility it once had.

      think about it – conference in warsaw to further the squatters plan on a war against Iran – an abject failure,

      the recent conference in bahrain with the same purpose – an abject failure

      and then this jerusalem conference where two parties send their top representatives and the third the secretary of the national security board – an abject failure.

      and then you have Fatso’s meting with Nato in Brussels – an abject failure

      fatso’s meting with merkel – an abject failure

      and fatso’s meting with Putin in Sochi – an abject failure.

      so the squatters are on their own since dunny the dunce ain’t gonna go to war in the middle east for any reason what so ever.

      I think that the squatters are worried about the rather adamant request that the issue about the nukes is on the table in no uncertain way. will be hard to duck that request by russia.

      • Jean de Peyrelongue

        1) Russia is in Syria to fight terrorism. Russia is not there to fight Israel, Turkey, Saudi-Arabia and the US and Russia does not want to be trapped in any war with those countries.
        2) Russia has done nothing to help Syrian against Israel or Turkey repeated aggressions.
        3) I expect the US and/or Israel to use as a pretext, the Arak reactor reactivation, to launch reprisal bombing. Iran will take this bombing as an act of war and they will start shooting at the enemies: US regional bases, Saudi-Arabia Abqaiq and Israel with the help of Hezbollah.
        4) As long as Russian troops are spared, they will stay neutral as they do not have the strengh there, nor the will to be involved in a war against Israel and the US. That is the clear message given to Israel and the US in the Jerusalem meeting. What they have told afterwars is mere propaganda.

        • verner

          wrong, russia arrived in syria with one purpose, to prevent syria to become another libya and prevent the squatters and the disunted states of A to succeed with the regime change operations, and also to secure the futher use of the tartus naval base in syria. russia put paid to plan the idiots in the white house worked after and russia was not about to be lied to again, like in the case of libya. so most of the seemingly knowledgeable stuff you write above is just plain rubbish and of no consequence.

          read up and inform yourself before allowing other readers to see through the shallowness of your understanding of the situation – just plain bollocks.

          • Sinbad2

            Your both wrong, Russia went into Syria to stop the American gas pipeline.
            All wars are about money.

          • Tommy Jensen

            You are all 3 wrong.
            Russia went into Syria because Zbigniew Brzezinski suggested to Pentagon it was time to take over Russias bases in Syria.
            Suleimani went to Moscow at said now was the line if Russia didnt want to lose their foothold in Syria.
            Hereafter followed the Kalibr missiles from the Caspian Sea.

          • verner

            which I am certain putin won’t hesitate to use against tel aviv should it come to that.

          • Tommy Jensen

            Israel is a geo-political exploited country. There is no reason at all, why Russia ever should think about firing a missile into Israel.
            Israels neighbours have reasons, but others not.

          • verner

            the alleged pipeline was and is a pipe dream of some groups in the area and might have had a part in the planning to regime change Syria, but only a secondary one. from russia’s perspective it was and is all about to keep syria as one and stop the willful destruction of the country a la libya, where russia tried to play ball and was so cheated of the outcome, a fully fledged fraudulent narrative by the disunited states of A lured Russia to agree to allow the western powers to stop gaddaffi from killing off his discontented citizens (they were very content living in the richest african country but the disunited states and cia set about to sow discontent, which never amounted to much but was enough excuse to bomb the country to rubble). and russia is far more aligned with Iran than for example with the squatters. and turkey is on the same page, the squatters are a menace and turkey and russia can be without the hassle they cause 24/7.

        • Helen B

          Were you a fly on the wall?

    • Tommy Jensen

      True. Russia should think of its own security and just let US&UK nuke Iran and China.
      The oil price will surge and Chabad and the liberal Joo millionaires in NYC will be the new NWO center…………..LOL.

    • Matt Lazarus

      Well, it would take 20,000 jumbo jets all taking off from Ben Gurion airport at the same time to save Jewish Israelis from this war. Well, Jaweh opened up the Red Sea, so perhaps he will open up the skies.

  • AJ

    I would still like to know why Syria is not being allowed to use the S300. I read an article on Global research by Andrew Korybko that states that Russia has not given them complete control of the system hence they are having to rely on the ancient S200 which are pretty much useless. I do agree with the Saker that IAF strikes arent changing anything on the ground.

    • Smith Ricky

      Didnt they shoot down f15 with s200?

      • Sinbad2

        And a Russian plane, they also sent one to Cyprus.
        They are kids with guns.

      • AJ

        One minor success out of over 200 strikes & that was only because the plane was flying in Syrian airspace – the IAF no longer do that they fire from Lebanon typically.

    • Sinbad2

      That’s semi right. Russia doesn’t want the Syrians shooting down Russian planes and civilian airlines all over the ME. It’s a valid concern, the Syrians have shown on numerous occasions that they are not responsible operators of these weapons.
      The S300 is actually the system, and part of the S300 system is the radar, that does track the Israeli planes. The S300 then uses its Pantsir component to shoot down anything within Syria.
      There is no such thing as an S300 missile it’s a system and comes with various missiles for various targets.
      It’s nothing like the Patriot single missile system.

    • 1691

      Korybko works for cia.

      • Tommy Jensen

        Prove it. Otherwise you are just smearing a person.

        • 1691

          Good point Tommy. Well done.
          His code name is:
          “READHISARTICLESWHENYOUDONTHAVEPSYCHOTICFITS”.
          Happy now?

          • Tommy Jensen

            No. I have read some, Korybko is intelligent. I dont know if I can say the same thing about your 4 word sentence and code name.

          • 1691

            One can be intelligent cia operative, right? Oh, well…, why am I wasting my time with you?

          • daniel

            You are wasting your time because “you are intelligent”

          • daniel

            But this code name belongs to 1961

    • Tommy Jensen

      All right, so it doesn’t matter to you and Saker how much the bombings destroy nor how many people it kills, “because the strikes aren’t changing anything on the ground”.

      O boy, o boy, o boy.

      The situation on the ground is a 5 year war still 50% occupied by foreign forces and Syria divided after the Yinon plan.
      That’s the situation on the ground clump heads (sorry for the emotional expression).

      • daniel

        and Golan “Gone with the wind”

  • Paul

    Saker is correct, anyone who says Putin has sold out Syria to Israel fails to see that he put a stop to their geopolitical goals. A Syria that is controlled by Israel or a Syria in total chaos like Libya hasn’t been achieved. Putin has good cards in his hand and he has played them well, but he doesn’t hold all the cards. It is a delicate situation and Russia just doesn’t have unlimited resources to control every aspect of the conflict. Personally I’d love to see the brainwashed yankee soldiers and their head chopping proxies completely driven out, but I doubt it will happen through force. Putin understands that only by bringing together all of the parties with a interest in Syria can a resolution of the conflict begin.

    • Jean de Peyrelongue

      1) Russia came to Syria to fight all terrorists and by that times many were coming from former countries of the USSR. Russia knew that should ISIS succeed in Syria, they would then trigger another war in Caucasus similar to the two Chechnya wars. Russia is not there to fight with Israel, Turkey, Saudi-Arabia or the US. Russia does not want to be trapped in any war with those countries.
      2) It is true that Russia’s intervention in Syria has saved the country from falling into a chaos similar to Libya. Assad knows that he has a major debt toward Russia and that explains why Syria has done nothing serious against the US, Israel or Turkey repeated aggressions which could
      have dragged into Russia into dangerous territory.
      True also that Russia’s intervention in Syria has hampered the US and Israel plans concerning the region. Yet The US and Israel are still after the destruction of Syria, Iran and the Hezbollah.
      3) I expect the US and/or Israel to use as a pretext, the Arak reactor reactivation, to launch reprisal bombing and Iran to take this bombing as an act of war and to start real shooting at the enemies: US regional bases, Saudi-Arabia Abqaiq and Israel with the help of Hezbollah.
      4) As long as Russian troops will be spared, they will stay neutral as they do not have the strengh locally, nor the will to be involved in a war against Israel, Saudi-Arabia and the US. That is the clear message given to Israel and the US in the Jerusalem meeting. What Russia told afterwars was mere propaganda.
      5) I am not sure that Russia has understood what is the real objective of this war.
      The Jews are supposed to have extended their power over the whole world before the return of the Messiah to Jerusalem. Israel’s creation has been premature. The objective of this war following WWI and WWII for the Jews, is to come closer to the final objective.
      By plunging the M.E. in chaos, the world-wide oil production will be choked creating a major blow to China, India and Japan. The US and the Jews hope that it will freeze such projects as the new silk road and fragilize organizations such as BRICS, SCO, etc… . European nations will be also destroyed, being bankrupted and invaded by refugees. All those people should be brought to mercy.

      The surge of the price of oil will save the US shale oil industry and money will flow back to the US as never before for it will be the only haven for the wealthy peoples, the 0.01 %.

      There is a price to be paid for such scenario. Israel may be temporarily destroyed and the Israelis may have to move to the US which is already almost a jewish country. The Shoah had been the price to get Israel but the job was not complete. They had power over most of the world except China that they had woke-up by mistake.. This mistake has to be corrected today.

    • RichardD

      The Iraqis need to cut off US access to Syria. The Kurds will fold quickly and the Turks will leave. Unless asked to stay as part of a regional force to deal with Israel.

  • Hasbara Hunter

    There are basically Two Options:

    1. Mr. Putin & Mr. Xi Jinping are Fully Cooperating with the Cabal & we are watching the New World Order Shift from West to East (Follow the Money-Theory)… Indications might be the transfer of Gold to China & Implementation of the Social Credit System…..

    2. Mr. Putin & Mr. Xi Jinping are isolating the West, unhooking themselves from the Petro-Dollar & thus neutralizing the Power & Limitless Financial capacities of The AngloZioNazi-Empire….This is done in a Controlled manner so that the impact on the Chinese, Russian & World Economy will be limited to a minimum.

    Let’s hope this whole Theatre they present us is based on Option number Two…..

    • omrizkiblog

      Putin & Xi won’t be around forever. But I believe as long as these two strong men here, I do not think USSA & i5i5rael dare to go war against Iran, primarily, in full scale attack. However, I still believe that, we cannot get peace on this beautiful earth installed, unless we fully eradicated all evils, in this case Anglo-Zionist-Empire. That sadly, it cannot be done without having to blow some nukes up… ☕

      • Hasbara Hunter

        Nukes definitely have a Cleansing Effect…

      • Wulver

        I don’t know much about Xi, but if there’s one thing I believe about Putin, it’s that he is a master at meritocracy. He has a way of weeding the psychopaths out as well. He’ll leave his country with plenty of young men and women with love of country and logos, for the good of us all in my opinion.

    • Tommy Jensen

      Its number One, sorry Sioux.

      • Hasbara Hunter

        Pretty Nose (c. 1851 – after 1952) was an Arapaho war chief who participated in the Battle of the Little Bighorn. In some sources, Pretty Nose is called Cheyenne, although she was identified as Arapaho on the basis of her red, black and white beaded cuffs. The two tribes were allies at the Battle of the Little Bighorn and are still officially grouped together as the Cheyenne and Arapaho Tribes..

    • bla

      Let´s hope it is option 2 for the sake of humanity as a whole , Israel and USA can go rot on a ditch as they are not part of the human race(or so they think)

  • Rob

    Syria needs a good active leadership to address about problems in Syria. Syria should have good relations with regional countries. The Assad silence gives birth to many doubts.

  • Free man

    Russia is doing what is good for Russia.
    The withdrawal of the Iranian forces from Syria is what is good for Russia.

    • Hasbara Hunter

      TWO OPTIONS BOY:

      EITHER YOU ARE WITH THE CABAL OR YOU ARE AGAINST IT!

      • Free man

        This is true for narrow-minded people.
        Not for world powers like Russia.

        • Hasbara Hunter

          It’s the Plain & Simple Truth… any Intelligent-Fortune-Telling-World-Power will see that the Road we are Following at the moment leads to Cliffs….Desperate Times ask for Drastic Measures:
          Destroy the Cabal!

    • Concrete Mike

      Ridiculous statement.

      Russia wants ALL foreign forces gone. Iran=USA in this equation.

      They all got to go, selective hearing much??

      • Free man

        All foreign forces must leave Syria, except for Russia.
        Do you have problems with reading comprehension?

        • Sinbad2

          Does that include Israel currently occupying Golan?

        • Concrete Mike

          No not at all, your the one obsessed with iran not me.

          Your the one seeing iranian boogeymen everywhere.

          I see a pattern in your texts constantly blaming iran for everything! Thats why i call you out!

          All you do smear iran daily! Maskirovska!

          • Free man

            Russia saved Syria from the Sunni jihadists not for the Shiite jihadists to take over. No Maskirovka only facts of life.

          • Concrete Mike

            And who are the shiite jihadis?? Stop playing games dude.

            Russia save Syria.from a coalition of crazies from around the world, i think.its an insult to.islam to call al nusrah/isis/fsa/nfl/ whatever alphabet soup of the day name they make up somewhere sunnis.
            These salafist scums are not real sunnis as real sunnis hate them. These fellows follow the whabbi sect of islam wich is trying to restore the order as it was during the time of.mohammed. thats what salaf is, the way it was.

            Stop turning this to a sectarian conflict! Its not, religion is a veneer on top to promote the banker wars!!

            Educate yourself about the players at hand instead of throwing cheap names daily!

          • Free man

            You lack basic knowledge of the Middle East. There is no point in arguing with you.

          • Concrete Mike

            Oh no i dont agree with the mainstream view that iran is hiding below every rock with missile. Parroting CNN does not make you an expert far from it! It makes you look like a sheep.

            Keep cheering on the child butchers.in israel though, we know whos is behind you

      • jaimeintexas

        All uninvited by Syria.

  • Tommy Jensen

    Too many words used to escape reality. The Saker claims statements and declarations by various representatives are facts, which they are not! Real facts in few words:

    – Syria is today Yinon Plan divided along Euphrates river with Russia occupying West area and US East area. All in agreement by Russia with US and Israel, and in disagreement with Assad, Syria.
    – The S-300 pre-paid by Assad, Syria 9 years ago were never supplied due to Israel, although requested by Assad multiple times, only brought to Syria as an excuse to protect Russian Servicemen in Syria.
    – Every time Russia could have taking advantage of quick decisive attacks and progress in Syria, Kremlin deliberately slowed down the progress in favour of “talks” with their “equal partner” US and Israel.
    – Kremlin assisted Israel in over 2 years with over 200 bombings of facilities and killings in Syria of even Russian Servicemen and officers, in disagreement with Assad, Syria.
    – The latest meeting between the 3 “equal partner” hawks of US, Israel and Russia, and the following agreed with Israel major attack bombings in Syria in disagreement with Assad, Syria shows all.
    – All killings and murders of Russian generals, embassadors, senior officers, servicemen, have only been met by Kremlin with public threats ending in excuses for Israel and “our equal partner” in Washington.

    Factual actions not even a liberal can escape from.

    • RichardD

      Netanyahu said after the meeting that the US needs to get out of Syria.

      • Tommy Jensen

        Why do you take notice of what well known notorious liars say? Look at what they do, then we talk.

    • daniel

      S-300 Syria and Iran, same story,

  • RichardD

    I wouldn’t rule out direct Russian, Indian and Chinese military intervention in Iran. At the invitation of the Iranian government. On the outside chance that the US does try a gulf war 3. And builds up forces in Saudi Arabia for a drive to Tehran to hang the Ayatollah, disembowel him with a bayonet, or dismember him alive and dissolve him in acid, like they’ve done already to others.

    Something on that scale would sufficiently disrupt global oil supplies to the point where the slack in the oil supply system would be taken up pretty quickly. And not only would it crash economies, but it would initiate famine on a significant scale in places with little self sufficiency in energy production. Such as Europe, India and China.

    And while Iran is a much more difficult nation to conquer than Iraq. And with support the Iranian military can hold out almost indefinitely in large parts, or almost all of the country. With their economies crashing and people starving. I can see India and China agreeing to move military forces across Russia into northern Iran to stop the conflict and right global energy production.

    Gulf war 3 light. Which involves just a navel and air campaign against Iran. Wouldn’t require large land armies. But if it is sufficiently disruptive economically and to the food chain. I can also see a Russian, Indian and Chinese direct military intervention at the invitation of Iran. That uses a variant of the Russian campaign in Syria. Whereas the SCO provides primarily air and navel support. And the Iranians provide the man power.

    Both of these scenarios are obviously criminal insanity on the part of Israel and Jewmerica. And while there’s no public support anywhere, with the possible exception of Israel, including in either NATO or the SCO for military intervention. That isn’t always necessary to get the ball rolling. And the pendulum would swing in the SCO to public support for military intervention with economic collapse and famine.

    It’s also worth noting that there’s no public support for the Afghan war. But it’s been going on for years with no end in sight. And the lack of public support for an Iran war. Hasn’t stopped the build up to one.

    • Sinbad2

      I doubt any of the nations you mentioned would actually join the fight, and they don’t have to.
      Think it through, what would the US do, bomb or invade?
      It would take 6 months to assemble an invasion force, so bombing is it. The Iranians have formidable air defenses and the US would take losses, Iran could also respond and kill many American troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, no second term for Trump.

      But the killer blow would be closing the Gulf 17 million barrels of oil a day would be stopped.
      That’s a billion dollars a day that does not go to American banks, and the global economy would crash dragging the US with it, no second term for Trump

      The US will do nothing but shoot its mouth off sanction and terrorist attacks.

      • Concrete Mike

        Well ive read some financial articles that went beserk.over derivatives…not sure 100% what it all means , but from what i understood, basically there isnt enough money out there to pay for 300$/barrel oil.

        Jens Holms, can you explain what im trying to say? Your expertise in economics would be appreciated thanks!

      • RichardD

        You’re assuming a semblance of sane and rational behavior on the part of Jew world order miscreants. I’m assuming that they behave true to form and continue in their criminally insane manner pursuing their Jew world order hegemony crimes against humanity project. Such as 911, the Iraq wars and 2008 financial crisis of their own making. All of which were detrimental to US national interests. Which Trump got elected on with his antiwar America First platform. Prior to doing an about face after he got in office and ran into a s–t storm of swamp opposition. That started during the election and considerably escalated after he won.

  • Rafik Chauhan

    US wants wwar in middle east for only one reason which is oil and economic crises. bcuz if there is no oil production in middle ease . the world country will go to US to buy oil and defently US will sell oil expensive. and that money will be given to Israel to occuoy Syria and lebnon and may be Iraq. That’s why US doesn’t war Iraq to be powerful but The way PMU has risen up with the help of Aga Sistani Fatwa. US is faraid now and also Alsaud. cant dare to do anything. REsstance has grown much bigger campare to before 2011. All the plan of Zionist has gone in gutter. accept one which is last hope is the Syrian kurds who want independent and taking support of Israel and US. Kurds are traitor from before they were not loyal at all to thie own country. but their time will come and they will be sandwich and crush by their own master Zionist.

  • Robert McMaster

    The Saker consistently undervalues the power of the subjective, morale, public opinion. That when people feel betrayed, are demoralized, become bitter by bad or disappointing actions on the part of state or related powers. PR optics have an enduring effect on how much and how long a population will trust a government or have faith in their good intentions.

    And so, the Saker is forever apologizing for Russia allowing Isreal to impose itself in the region. And this dismays and disheartens those affected and who looked with hope that Russia would develop a backbone. As their confidence wanes, people turn away from Russia, no longer trust Putin, look for alternatives. And they don’t come back.

    How’s that for statesmanship? News for Mr. Putin: Piss your natural supporters off and you will find yourself out on a limb, in trouble and nobody cares or believes you any more. That is power.

    • omrizkiblog

      Go to thesaker.is and see if you still as bold as you were here… ☕

    • RichardD

      They’ve cleared 60% of Syria soon to be 70%. It’s the Syrians decision on whether to retaliate or not.

      • Robert McMaster

        That is a good point. Let it be so.

  • DontBelieveEitherPropaganda

    The Saker.. The wanna be Russian.. who last year cried that he asked Russia to pay him for his propaganda, and was so mad that they did not pay him anything..
    He will continue to only show the (existing) good sides about Putin but the bad he either Omits or attacks anyone who dares to point them out.
    He does not give a shit about Syria.. EVERY other commenter who is pro Syria like Elijah j magnier Had Long understood that Israel is more important now to Putin as Assad or Iran..
    But of course southfront is desperate and happy to have a propagandist that makes agit prop here, now that most of us yeralong readers figured out their BS.

    READ ELIJAH j magnier, MoA, SsT if you care about Syria Hezbollah Iran Yemen..
    All others be happy with Israel Kremlin propaganda here..

    • Tommy Jensen

      Sharp Eye, I agree.

    • Brad Isherwood

      Putin never pushed back against the Lies* of 911 and the
      Fake War on Terror.

      So…..Planet is totally screwed by Zionist Primacy game

      Which Putin Embraces**…everytime he meets
      Netanyahu. …a key Architect of the War on Terror.

  • Abtin Do

    More or less agree
    with most of the core arguments and analysis made with regards to a complex,multi-faceted Russian military-diplomatic approach towards everybody else in the region.

    But one has to note one the effective or at least
    burgeonning success of the most central, longstanding,and long-coveted goal of creating a quasi-state right in in the middle of the Syrian state in the North with non-state influence and control encompassing most of its vital agricultural and oil/gas infrastructure. By this the imperialist camp is on the brink of achieving a core tenant of their permanent chaos theory supporting their centuries-old “divide to rule”mantra, a never-ending pillar of the expanionist western-zionist doctrine : the concrete emergence of the pro-US/Israel ,Gulf-funded Syrian mini-Kurdistan. The multipronged effort can now be discerned within all of its fundamental dimensions.

    1 – A major helicopter base is being constructed in lieu of a former SAA airbase at Tabaqa. That will ensure open-ended NATO-centric entrenchment where once stood sovereign national bases. On top of being terribly ironic,the strategic regression there is of epic proportions.

    2 – Mossad is quasi-openly providing its regular services along with an established de-facto permanent presence within SDF regional sections here, and Saudi delegations have flown there and back regularly to elaborate a serious funding scheme for thr “general infrastructure plans”,read “economic colonization and physical+institutionnal separation from the central governement”.

    3 – Despite once hinting at some seemingly backtracking posture destined at his internal isolationist base, Trump has now set his mind to permanent US garrisons and other Western forces are now firmly stationned and expanding around every key strategic sectors,de-facto preventing any kind of realistic military prospect for the SAA (or even Russia) to act as the guarantor of its own territorial integrity should the political process ultimately fall in a definitive way (which is already stalled to this day and the SDF are ever-tightening their demands in a utterly unacceptable way to the central governement ever since being reassured of continued US presence.)

    Now I am not saying that everything will go exactly according to the most idealistic US lines and endgame here, but one has to note that a once hollow prospect dismissed as wishful-thinking by the war hawks,this project has become a completely real endeavour that could well drastically change the geopolitical picture for decades.to comes if left unchecked by the Russians in particular,who are known to entertain a traditionnally cordial relationship with some elements within the SDF ,namely the YPG-affiliated PKK.

  • Douglas Houck

    This is not a Yes/No issue. Russia both wants to guarentee the security of Israel and Iran along with Syria. It is this balance that is the source of confusion. Russia does not see the ME in a good/evil framwork. Everybody has legitmate concerns and interests.

    If you read what Russian National Security Advisor Patrushev stated on Israel:

    “We have the opportunity [with Iran] to mutually influence each other’s [policies] and have the opportunity to hear one another. We understand the [security] concerns that Israel has, and we want these threats to be eliminated so that Israeli security is guaranteed. It’s very important to us. There’re some two million Russian-speaking people living in this country and we should never forget that. At the same time, we should never forget about the national interests that other regional powers have. If we fail to acknowledge them, I doubt we can reach a meaningful result,” Patrushev stressed.

    Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/06/russia-israel-us-iran-syria.html#ixzz5sjWQTKss

    Now add to this the recent Russian/SA economic investment and you have even more potential confusion of which side Russia is on. Remember that Russia’s greatest need right now is foreign investments. Does anyone think that SA would be investing in Russia without the implicit support of the US?

    “Russia and Saudi Arabia will soon create an economic council that will unite the largest businesses of the two countries, Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF) CEO Kirill Dmitriev told reporters on Saturday.”

    See: https://sputniknews.com/business/201906291076100761-russia-saudi-arabia-to-create-council-uniting-large-businesses/

    Now the amount of $10 billion, while significant for Russia is not that large for SA who generally deals in $100s of billions.

    Obviously, Russia is playing to both sides of the fence which best represents it’s own national interests, as do all countries.

  • AM Hants

    Seems strange, owing to I stopped reading Saker articles, owing to their fixation with the Russian Government supporting the 5th Column.

    Never noticed the ‘wait and see’ in the articles. In fact, when I used to enjoy the site, back in 2014, it was the same then. They would go into manic mode, convinced that Eastern Ukraine had bitten off more than they could chew. The cauldrons, provided the answer, with regards that one.

  • Wanklord

    DO YOU THINK THIS LOSER (The Saker or Andrei Raevsky) IS CAPABLE OF ESTABLISHING A COHERENT ARGUMENT ABOUT GEOPOLITICS WHEN HE SEEMS MORE CONCERNED ABOUT FOOD AND ALCOHOL?
    Is this the kind of contributor that SouthFront wants everybody to support by donating money?
    https://dxczjjuegupb.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Selection_080-864x400_c.png

    • verner

      hey wanker, most participants here are happy with what is presented and since you obviously aren’t I’d suggest in no uncertain language -piss off! and remain pissed off.

  • Tommy Jensen

    BREAKING BREAKING Jensen debunking TheSakers rumours about Russias independence.

    Jensen is doing it again. I was the first one who said it and I was clean cut right! But no one wanted to listen and alternative media remain silent about it!
    My democratic voice was denied!
    Russias actions and the situation on the ground in Syria shows a reality both pro- and against- supporters of Putin wont admit.
    Latest a closed door meeting between Israel, Russia and USA, leading to one of the largest attacks by Israel on Syria seen in 2 years.

    But that’s not all. It shows up “our equal partners” also are Russias largest investors………………….LOL.
    Talk about conflict of interests.
    You guys did let yourself fool again, and again I had to kick your arses. Shame shame shame…..…..LOL.
    http://www.pravdareport.com/news/russia/142453-usa_russia_investment/?utm_referrer=last_news_list

    • Tommy Jensen
    • verner

      you sure as a klucking bell can’t read well – russia sent a secretary of the national security agency not the head or a person of ambassadorial status while the ever disunited states of A sent bolton, (prime scum waiting to be lamp-posted) and israel the head of national security and prime scum netanyahu, which set up should tell you the importance Russia put on the trilateral meeting, zilch.

      however the russian explained to the convener that Iran is an ally of russia, that russia will facilitate the sale of Iran’s oil and that barter agreements between russia and iran are honoured (concept not known to neither the disunted states of assholes nor the squatters on stolen land). moreover china has declared that the sanctions put in place by the disunited states of assholes are illegal and there is no reason to abide by those sanctions. moreover again, the russian brought the question of the squatters nukes to the fore and requested an explanation as to why they are allowed to have nukes and why the non-proliferation agreement is disregarded and requested a detailed inventory of the nukes the squatters hold. guess the prime scum netanyahu was fuming when the meeting was over.

      the subsequent attack on syria was just a knee jerk reaction by netanyahu under the protective umbrella of the disunited states of assholes since he, prime scum waiting to be lamp-posted, can’t get a coalition together to go to war against Iran. so israel will be discontinued and the thieving murderous squatters will be forcefully ejected out into a cruel world where pogroms glore are awaiting them.

      • Tommy Jensen

        “can’t read, sent a secretary, a sent Bolton, should tell you, the russian explained, china has declared,requested an explanation,requested a detailed inventory, will be”.

        Look at your own text. Its all talk talk and text, ending in wishful thinking. Then take a look at the factual situations happening on the ground.

        • verner

          bla bla bla and as said, you obviously has an impared understanding of what takes place – I’d recommend a cup of warm milk and a mild sedative to calm your obviously fraught nerves.

          • Tommy Jensen

            Time to kick arse and chew bubblegum.

  • cechas vodobenikov

    as has been demonstrated by many–amerikans r unable to tolerate ambiguity..the principle attribute of neurosis,,,a nation of anxious neurotics

  • Robert McMaster

    This article is an apologia for Isreal. Words, words, words. Policies, statements, blather. That’s what the Saker sites. But reality on the ground is that Isreal bombs into Syria and elsewhere whenever it likes and the Russians stand by doing nothing though they have the means to prevent this. That’s what people see and experience. And so Saker is left pissing into the wind.

  • Matt Lazarus

    I don’t think one can speak of “Western Civilization” having “values.” Certain individuals and certain groups, and perhaps even certain countries at very specific moments in time, can be said to have (or have had) “values.” Individuals, groups, and nations can claim to have “values” but this is a very different thing from actually having and living by the values one claims to have. “Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” would probably count as “values.” The USA, or spokesmen within the USA, occasionally claim that these are the USA’s “values” (or “principles”). But the USA has only intermittently lived by these values.
    At the present time, the USA certainly does not stand by these values. Indeed, official US spokesmen rarely allude to these “values” anymore. If the USA lives by any principle whatsoever at the moment it is simply that of “might makes right” (which cannot be said to be a value; it is a state in which everything is reduced to matter of brute force). Once one descends to this level of existence, which is a life lived wholly without values, existence becomes, as Thomas Hobbes put it, “homo lupus hominem” — “man becomes a wolf to man.” As one German writer added with a twist, “jeder fuer sich und Gott gegen alle” (“each man for himself and God against all”)