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The Deep State wins the 2020 Presidential election: USA RIP

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The Deep State wins the 2020 Presidential election: USA RIP


Written by The Saker; Originally appeared at his blog

Okay, this time it does look like it’s over. Mitch McConnell congratulated Biden and Harris, thereby signifying the official surrender of the GOP (which, let’s be honest here, never really was ready to fight for Trump).  Vladimir Putin also sent his congratulations in the following way: (official Russian statement)

Congratulations to Joseph R. Biden on winning US presidential election

Vladimir Putin sent a message to Joseph R. Biden congratulating him on his victory in the presidential election in the United States of America.

December 15, 2020

In his message, Vladimir Putin wished the President-elect every success and expressed confidence that Russia and the United States, which bear special responsibility for global security and stability, can, despite their differences, effectively contribute to solving many problems and meeting challenges that the world is facing today.

The President of Russia noted that with this in mind, Russian-American cooperation, based on the principles of equality and mutual respect, would meet the interests of both nations and the entire international community.

“For my part, I am ready for interaction and contacts with you,” Russia’s Head of State stressed.

Russian journos were quick to notice that unlike previous congratulation messages to Obama and Trump, this one did not express any kind of hopes.  I can only agree.  Frankly, the Russians have been sending signals about this for a long time, even Lavrov seems to have flushed the “collective West” down to the toilet of Kremlin political priorities: the Russians clearly consider the western leaders as collectively brain dead (the nonsense around Navalnyi really did not help, of course).

What comes next will be both dangerous and ugly.  Why?

Well, for one thing, the election was stolen, even if the SCOTUS has in essence declared that 1) those who contested this outcome had no valid reason to complain and 2) that the SCOTUS does not care what the US Constitution says.  This total betrayal by seven out of nine SC Justices sealed the fate of the USA.  The rule of law in this country is over, dead.

Second, there will be resistance to what many US Americans will see – correctly – as an illegitimate regime which came to power by criminal means and a 4 year long color revolution.

Third, just as any other political regime, the power of the US Executive branch rests on two fundamental pillars (just one of them is not enough):

  1. A social consensus
  2. The exclusive control of the legal means of violence

Not only will there be a large proportion of the population which will be convinced that the election was stolen (what a beautiful, if dangerous, karma at work: after 4 years of Dems saying “not my President”, they themselves will now hear that same mantra for the next four years), but I also believe that a lot of folks in law enforcement will feel that the White House is against them (correctly) and will refuse to take any risks for that White House.  Remember that even the elite special units of the KGB refused twice (in 1991 and in 1993) to storm the Russian Parliament.  Do you expect their US counterparts to act differently and engage in a potential bloodbath on behalf of the two cop-hating clowns in the White House who, we all know, will backstab and betray them?

Ask yourself: would you obey orders coming out of this White House?

Fourth, folks – now comes the era of total, unapologetic, and truly stratospheric incompetence.  No, I don’t just mean Biden (even though he is clearly senile) or Harris (a call girl who made it into politics “horizontally”), but I mean the freak show which the next Administration appears to shaping up to be (even Psaki is coming back!!!).

Last, but not least, these are angry, frustrated, narcissistic and profoundly evil people (Peter Strzok types) .  Yeah, I know, that also describes the likes of Bolton or Pompeo, but at least these two freaks had comparatively saner folks, like Mattis or even Trump himself, to keep them in check.  That is now over.

The really scary thing is that now that they won, the US legacy ziomedia and the Big IT corporations are not just allies of the Deep State and the Dems anymore, but their accomplicesThat is crucial because that means that they are now all linked with a mutual survival pact.

Since the Dems have now total control of the Federal level (Executive, Legislative, Judiciary and media), the resistance will now move “down” to the state and local level.  Expect this struggle to get very ugly fast as the highly ideological Dems will now show their (totally fake) love for blacks, homosexuals and feminists (that is their vague notion of “diversity”!) while waging a crusade against the majority of the people of the USA and, especially, the First and Second Amendments (which, like it or not, were considered as the cornerstones of the Constitution by the Founding Fathers, hence their number 1 and 2 positions!).

And let’s not kid ourselves – there are plenty of freaks and idiots in Trump’s camp too – and they will likely do a lot of dumb and dangerous things which will only further justify the regime in DC to crack down on all the “deplorables” imaginable.  Expect all sorts of false flags, fake terror attacks and, most dangerous of all, carefully groomed “sacrificial victims” including, possibly, folks in/near the White House.

Still, it would be wrong and naive to think that all Trump supporters are only Trumptards: there are still A LOT of truly patriotic US Americans who see Trump for what he is (a cowardly and spineless narcissist), but who also understand that what just happens is not the end of the “Orange Menace” but the end of the USA as we knew them until now.  In fact, a Hegelian analysis of history would very strongly suggest that any Biden/Harris Administration will face such huge challenges and contradictions that from the day Biden/Harris are officially sworn in on – it will all go downhill from there, and pretty fast.

Millions of US Americans will now have to choose between the oath of office they gave and obedience to a regime which they will know has ZERO legitimacy.  I don’t envy them (I never took the US citizenship, so I never had to give any oaths).

We are about to enter a transition period which will probably last more than a decade, possibly two.  Paradoxically, I am rather optimistic that whatever state(s) and regime eventually emerges at the end of this process will be a much better one than any other in this generation’s memory, mainly because what will emerge at the is either one, or several, successor states, but not an empire.  Good riddance! Finally!

But I do fear the dangers of the transition period we are about to begin: history teaches that these “transition” periods can be worse than full scale wars.

I am too young to remember that (I was 2 days old exactly), but a lot of very wise US Americans have told me that the murder of President Kennedy was the first big blow delivered to the United States.  I think that the next blow for the USA were the totally illegal and illegitimate wars of aggression against the Serbian nation and against Iraq.  Though these wars were presented to us as “victories” – they were anything but.  Crucially, the utter lawlessness behind these aggressions also ushered in the next blow for the USA, I am speaking of 9/11 of course.  The theft of the 2020 election is, in my opinion, the last and truly mortal blow to this country (you could say that the “chicken of illegality” have come home to roost).

Notice that the four events listed above all have one thing in common: most people, at least the ones still capable of thought, realize that they were all covered up with lies, lies and more lies.  Of all these lies, the easiest to demonstrate would, of course, be 9/11, which is paradoxical since in spite of the fact that the 9/11 lies were truly debunked “beyond reasonable doubt” by hard, scientific data, they were also completely ignored by ALL the political elites (including, of course, Giuliani and Trump himself!).  In other words, 9/11 was the “glue” which brought together all the US elites, even the pretend-outsiders with “swamp draining” pretensions.

Frankly, I am saddened by what I am observing.  I can hardly be called an optimist by nature, but I still held some, residual, hope that judges, especially SC Justices, would refuse to dishonor themselves (and forever ruin their legacy) and would at the very least hear the case on its merits.  My wiser friends had no such illusions and they warned me.  I guess that being a grateful guest in this country (which has treated me and my family extremely well), I cannot but wish its people well and hope that, somehow, the good and honest people of this country would prevail.  Now I understand that, just like in Russia in February 1917, August 1991 and October 1993, what the US need is a new generation of patriots, not blind flag-waving xenophobic imbeciles, but sober-minded and yet idealistic patriots who will understand that to love one’s country is not enough, you have to be ready to really fight, fight hard, for it.  Of course, the US staple ideology of individualism and its toxic and dogmatic beliefs in the “virtues” of capitalism will have to die first.  No worries – in time, they will, that is what inevitably comes next in such collapses (just like Russians have rejected Marxist ideological dogmas).  But now is not the time for this conversation, much more must happen before it can take place.

Bottom line: the EU is going down the drain, and so are the USA (the Empire itself, has been dead for a while, even of many/most people do not realize this yet).  Conversely, I would argue that Russia and China have won, not quite the war, but a crucial battle (think Stalingrad or Kursk).  Any attack, economic or military, launched by the collective West against these two countries will fail.  The Dem “geostrategic experts” will blame Russia and Putin personally, while the GOP “geostrategic experts” will blame China and Xi personally.  That is why they all are, collectively, losers of the worst possible kind!

Things will only begin to really change when a new generation of US leaders will begin look at themselves and at their own responsibility for the catastrophe which has now happened.

Sadly, right now I can only advise everybody to fill yourself with a lot patience.


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  1. SnowCatzor says:

    I guess it’s only karma that after decades of destabilizing numerous foreign nations, America itself now faces a similar future.

    1. Jens Holm says:

      Its no problem. hey have a high level and might slowly decline – and then what?

  2. HiaNd says:

    A walking dead for a President, how appropriate for dying country.

    1. William D says:

      Democracy in action is what you see in the USA. Democracy protected by an impartial court is what you see in the USA. Our court is Trump appointed yet protects Biden, that is raw undefeatable power. Choose USA or choose a surveillance China state future

      1. HiaNd says:

        There is nothing to “choose”. For the moment China is lesser evil BY FAR !

        1. William D says:

          read more on China.. 9 dash line, Xinjiang, Hong Kong, fentanyl, catholic church, even the dali lama. At least in the USA free expression and thought is permitted. You might see us as an enemy but we are fixable, China is robot rollercoaster to hell

  3. Jens Holm says:

    Saker by its propaganda makes the dark themself and even conclude from it.

    Much like suicide bombers only killing themself not even know why.

    1. occupybacon says:

      He and other Russians don’t realise how ridiculous is associating midget Russia with giant China in an economic context. Russian economy is the size of Italy’s.

      1. Lone Ranger says:

        Wrong Russian economy is 5-6th largest by GDP ppp.
        And they have resource and tech superiority over China.
        They are also in an alliance the SCO.
        China is pumping $hundreds of billions in Russia in return for weapobs, reactors, gas and oil.

        1. Jens Holm says:

          Much of that is highly biased and also wrong.

          Come back when You have learned to read whats correct and whats not.

          Russia is number 11 in GDP for total country.
          Russia is number 54 in GDP pr capita

          I hope something is wrong in Your computerscreen.

          Its true GDPs not always show how fx wellfare is and fx low prices and low pay for jobs sometimes are outbalancing eacgh other.

          But You use GDP as most ofthers, but You cant read them.

          1. Lone Ranger says:

            Much of that is highly biased and also wrong.

            Come back when You have learned to read whats correct and whats not.

            Russia is number 6 in GDP ppp for total country.
            Russia is number 54 in GDP pr capita
            While the U.S. is Nr.1 debt per capita.

            I hope something is wrong in Your computerscreen.

            Its true GDPs not always show how fx wellfare is and fx low prices and low pay for jobs sometimes are outbalancing eacgh other.
            Thsts why the U.S. is bankrupt…
            Its the GDP ppp that matters.

            But You use GDP as most ofthers, but You cant read them.

        2. occupybacon says:

          PPP measures the local goods costs related to wages, it’s not an international constant, like let’s say price if gold. So you can’t say how large an economy is by PPP.

          1. Lone Ranger says:

            Not only local goods.
            All goods present in the internal market so you can.

          2. occupybacon says:

            Yes, all goods on the internal market of Russia, the cheaper, the better for the Chinese to buy you.

        3. cechas vodobenikov says:

          5th nominal GDP having overtaken Germany 2020

          1. Lone Ranger says:

            Good News ?
            Thanks ?

        1. Jens Holm says:

          Thats highly biased typical selective show. EU is not Germany and EU is 18,8 bio dollars.

          1. Lone Ranger says:

            Truth hurts try to handle it Trollstoy ?

          2. Lone Ranger says:


          3. Jens Holm says:

            So what. You great mistake is exact the same i BIIIIG %.

          4. Lone Ranger says:

            Cry more ?

          5. cechas vodobenikov says:

            jens only obtains awareness disney cartoons

        2. occupybacon says:

          Purchasing parity refers to internal goods, not international trade. Also Russia has a smaller percentage of middle class comparing to the West.

          1. Lone Ranger says:

            It means how much you can buy from the same ammount of money.
            And you can buy more in Russia.
            That simple.
            Also most western corps are present in Russia and produce locally.
            They shifted production from the west to the east.
            You better wake up…

          2. occupybacon says:

            Exactly :) it measures how many Russian breads you can buy in Russia. It doesn’t measure the size of the economy.

          3. Lone Ranger says:

            Not only breads, but tvs, cars, and so on.
            So it dose measure it.
            If you can buy a car in Russia but cant in Ukraine thats a pretty clear sign who has the better economy…
            Even according to expert economics its the GDP ppp that matters.

          4. Jens Holm says:

            You seemes to have no idea about how we are and how we do things here.

            Many from the rest of the world sould come here and see themself how far out the facts are, they learn in school i they are in school.

            Very muh is very incomplete. The other day we were told, that daniosh pupils are bad reading, writing and in math as well as small pupils. Thats correct and worries.

            But facts are we go to school mpre years then others as well as we have life time learning. So when we are in the age of 25 we are in front as well as we update and upgrade many many.

            If we were as some tell us, we would not be number 14 pr capita but maybee number 114. My point is, that if You compare, You has to compare in same context.

            O know a lot about it. My first real job for several years was porter at a hotel with many foreign tourists. The ones, which saw things in realisme was the ones seeing how many cars we had and if we had a good warm house with hot and cold water, own toilet facilities and a garden.

            I remember one funny thing. An american said we had almost as many cars as them, but they were smaller. It gave the level between our countries at that time well.

          5. Lone Ranger says:

            Soros numbers…
            If you are the end product its a failed System…

          6. occupybacon says:

            It matters for internal market, not in international market.

          7. Lone Ranger says:

            Thats right.
            Internal markets are the more important by the way.

          8. occupybacon says:

            For Russia yes, for US no :)

          9. Lone Ranger says:

            Thats because the U.S. has been taken over by hostile forces.
            They dont care about it.

          10. Lone Ranger says:

            U.S. trade deficit was $800+billion this year by the way.
            World Record…

          11. occupybacon says:

            Not trillion? That’s too low!

          12. Lone Ranger says:

            So low its the worst in history…

          13. occupybacon says:

            Not enough! Moarrr

          14. Lone Ranger says:

            I guess you are an enemy of the U.S…
            Windman 2.0 lite edition….

          15. occupybacon says:

            If I was my value for Russia would be 5000 of you.

          16. Lone Ranger says:

            Windman was also both an enemy of the U.S. and Russia.
            So you didnt convince me.

          17. occupybacon says:

            My dissapointment is immeasurable…

          18. Lone Ranger says:

            You will feel a lot better.
            Have a nice day Bacon.

          19. occupybacon says:

            Find a job, socially assisted boomer.

          20. Lone Ranger says:

            Indeed you should…

          21. Jens Holm says:

            I see none saying Ukraine is doing fine. We all see they have big problems. But peoplelike me and others say, that Russia should let them alone as long as they cant even handle their own problems.

            And in that is, that we in west try to help them, we are blamed for it, even all can see at lot of money are wasted and it will take generations to make needed changes to the better.

            Its the same for the other new or regained countries. We do try to help them up and some has been joined us manly by promises for improvements. We also do it to help Ourself. If the produce things we can buy, thay can buy our crap.

            The tools are very visble.

            And I take it again. We didnt make thoses many collpaases. If Your Marx-Engels version was that good, why did it collapse. I can see why. USSR didnt devellop their systems. That should have been done in dayli hard work for needed changes and at least 10 or 20 years before any Gorbatjov or Jelsin dor a while was in front

            A number one should be You stop comparing with Ukraine. Maps like this makes more sense. Its very visible, where EU and for that matter is. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cf3ed067d9b911064719233aa91fe558c573132a49060c88fd43dc6575184a1c.png

            Collapses often is long term ones and not just like that. You should be happy for those, which has improved a lot.

          22. Lone Ranger says:

            Fake soros map.
            Ukrains main problems are the CIA, and zionazi oligarchs and IMF not Russia.
            You help them like a rope helps a hanged man
            Energy prices triplled, pensions were cut in half, crime rate exploded in Ukraine since 2014.
            Another success story like Iraq and Afghanistan…

          23. Lone Ranger says:

            USSR had better infrastructure than the U.S.
            Same as Russia today.
            Most major upgrade in the U.S. civilian infrastructure was in the early 70s.
            Better luck next time Trollstoy ?

          24. Lone Ranger says:

            Everywhere U.S. goes death and destruction follows, even in their own country…

          25. Lone Ranger says:

            You are propagating communistic ideas not me.

          26. Jens Holm says:

            Maybee we a chance, if he has two teachers.

          27. Lone Ranger says:

            Also you can add debt too.
            If state and public debt is high it simply cancels out the GDP which was fake to begin with.
            If the U.S. GDP was really $20trill they wouldnt struggle like they are.

          28. Jens Holm says:

            You are told so many times why and how Your version of debt in Your system is not like ours at all.

            You should subtract debt making more money then the debt. You also should subtract most of trhe debt by Our houses which as private property is base for Kapitalisme.

            So at least name it BAD DEBT and split it up.

            The problems are, when things gets out of hand. No debt almost alway says no activity and high unimployment. We dont like that as well as houses and other things are overrated making fake money – which happend in 2008.

          29. Lone Ranger says:

            Situation in the U.S. is about 20times worse than it was in /2008.
            Better luck next time Trollstoy ?

            P.S. skip the suspended disbelief, you are so brainwashed you even contradict yourself… lolz.

          30. Jens Holm says:

            Its allowed to hope Biden is more calm and systematic for USA as well as the rest of the world.

            By that its allowed to hope the USA inhabitants see their own possibilities and limitations better and at least repair, what seemes damaged.

            I use Your mad scintist statistics again. The uinployment rate fx is 6,7 %. today right now. So according to You it was 0,33 % in 2008 or what ?

            I have no disbelief´but fx papers on, I can use statistics and maps very well. By that I also makes my own oppinions which might be right, wrong or something else.

          31. Lone Ranger says:

            Unemployement in the U.S. is around 30-35% officially.
            Unoficially around 45-50%.
            100million people are on food aid.
            14million facing eviction.
            Millions already homeless with 27tent cities across the U.S.
            Pedobide will be the final nail in the coffin of the Crumbling U.S. Empire.

          32. Jens Holm says:

            There we go again. If You do exact the same for Russia and subtract in the same way, You will get same kind of results.

            Here You include all old retired people, children and probatly also people educating Yourself. You also includes the many, where the wife is only home and the man has a good income.

            I dot think 100 million are on food help, but if so they at least get food.

          33. Lone Ranger says:

            Only in a CIA funded Disney movie.
            Unemployement in Russia is between 5-10%
            Better luck next time Trollstoy ?

          34. Jens Holm says:

            We have Our own numbers and know Russia bery well. So EU is driven by CIA too and with Jews and Soros included. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/03eebfb18c03b1210cd9f7b43de17b0b7c48aa0a67f1d8a17fc30872e9f85f79.jpg

          35. Lone Ranger says:

            I see the LSD kicked in again…
            Dont drive while under the influance…

          36. Lone Ranger says:

            Get food for how long?
            Superpower my a…
            Worst failed state in the developed world.
            Officially a third world banana republic.

          37. Jens Holm says:

            They do it in their way not mine. I just says things are not as bad as You write and hope for. I also write how they can improve. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5bab99fc5ef57b4852f8d34cdfa6ee23b45190c90e0ec6adf402ba192f2211ea.gif

          38. Lone Ranger says:

            Its worse.
            I sugarcoat it.

          39. occupybacon says:

            American debt includes in algorythm inflation in the past 100 years. With that they prove the Dollar is stable. Russia simply can’t do that :)

          40. Lone Ranger says:

            So stable it lost 98% of its value…lol.
            And I wasnt talking about inflation but state and public debt.
            Russia nor any sane country would want that.

          41. occupybacon says:

            Yes, that public debt includes the inflation. Because inflation IS debt.

          42. Lone Ranger says:

            On top of debt…

          43. Jens Holm says:

            You should read about vitals in Kapitalisme. You refer to economy based on Engels. Should we collapse like that too. NO WAY.

            And we have vocabularies for the different versions doing well and not. You have not.

            Fx Stag-flation is inflation and stagnasion, which usís as bad as it can be. This is the worst unbalance with higher prices and wages the same or lower and mauínly with many more unimployed.

          44. Lone Ranger says:

            Projecting much…?
            You are the one who supports crony capitalism/fascism/socialism…
            U.S. doesnt have an economy left to begin with.
            $29trillion debt.
            A World record.
            $400trillion in the derivative bubble.
            Another World Record.
            $150trillion public debt.
            $64,000 per capita
            Another World Record
            $800trillion trade deficit
            Another World Record.
            Sit down Jens…

          45. Jens Holm says:

            I already just as OCCY has told You, You have no idea about how things are and repeating Your no learning stupidities dont improve anything.

            Our systems are not as You say.

          46. Lone Ranger says:

            I already just as LR has told You, You have no idea about how things are and repeating Your no learning stupidities dont improve anything.

            Our systems are not as You say.
            Fixed Trollstoy ?

          47. Jens Holm says:

            Its not. You dont understand ours and we understand Yours.

          48. Lone Ranger says:

            In a parallel Universe, not this one.
            Thats why Russia is doing fine compared to the U.S.
            And thsts why China is buying up the U.S. for oennies.

          49. JIMI JAMES says:

            And Australian islands sadly,but atleast are paying a few hunded k for them!

          50. JIMI JAMES says:

            S.t.f.u and listen,before they ravage your house,take everyone away and the dog too,before hurl you out in the gutter,looting everything they can,as the bank expects you to service their debt,or the life of the poor jew is for you:

          51. occupybacon says:

            Entertainment for children. I was watching these in 2007.

          52. Lone Ranger says:

            Right before the U.S. economy went night night…

          53. occupybacon says:

            US economy can have nights and days, Russian economy is living in a bunker without electricity.

          54. Lone Ranger says:

            Russian can have nights and days, U.S. economy is living in a bunker without electricity.
            Fixed ?

          55. Jens Holm says:

            Well the inflation actually most of the time lower its value too.

            You are not taking about state and public debt of Ours in Our system at all. He is.

            We all are insane Soros slaves and all are more pooor then any russian or a real syrian in a Turkeish refugee camp.

            …And we collapsed right bow again – vupti falon gong.

          56. HiaNd says:

            “Size of economy” of Luxembourg is invisible comparing to Italy, yet they are one of the richest countries on the planet and they have VERY HIGH STANDARD of LIVING.
            Also Russia buys 10 times more weapons than US for the same amount of the money.
            US has 700 billion annually yet their jets falling down from the sky, many ships are rusty because of bad maintenance (luck of funds) and procurement of new but extremely expensive weapons is modest because of total corruption in Pentagon. Corruption that are systematically ripping off tax payers through buying extremely expensive weapons that are not good!

          57. occupybacon says:

            I agree, for arms, PPP can be used since they are made locally, but Russia is still part of the international financial system and it can be taken over relative easily in the near future, if the price of oil drops, since they didn’t build an industry that exports goods that could bring wealth to the middle class. You keep looking at US because the harm done by Russian billionaires is too horrific to look at.

          58. HiaNd says:

            Russia has working alternative to SWIFT (the international financial PAYMENT system) already used by Russian firms and some International trade exchanges with countries under the sanctions.
            Russian dollar reserves are historically low (and even so Russia keeps getting rid of all the dollars they have… gradually)
            Russia foreign currency reserves are mostly in Euro’s and other convertible world currencies including Yuan. And invested also in ever growing gold reserves.
            In few years Russia will have ZERO dollars and no need for SWIFT. All countries that buy gas & oil will have to pay in Euro’s or any other convertible currency except dollar.
            Russia produces cars, trucks, airplanes, choppers, vaccine’s and other pharmacy goods, oil derivatives, trains, atomic power stations, rocket engines, satellites, electricity, weapons, even pork to China etc. etc.. Russia is the biggest exporter of grain in the world (while (hungry Ukraine) USSR “bread basket”produces much less wheat then Russia now)
            And how come is that Russia “didn’t build an industry that exports goods”?!?
            You confuse Russia with BANKRUPTED Ukraine that has DESTROYED all USSR industry and have sold all Soviet military know how – secrets to China for handful of loans…

          59. occupybacon says:

            Russia do this, Russia do that. Didn’t stop using SWIFT yet? I’m sure nobody will observe. Try facebook ads, a like from a Russian is equal with a like from an Indian, you can make 100k likes facebook page in a week with tier 3 countries. While a like from an EU or US citizen is a LOT pricey. But yeah Russia produce good meds, 3-6 times cheaper than Western alternatives. Westerners are rushing for them. What is true is true.

          60. HiaNd says:

            I am tired of your comments, I don’ care what you think.
            People like you are spitting on Russia for decades and having prophecies about destruction of Russia… I couldn’t care less what you have to say about anything!
            Go bother somebody else…And THANK YOU in ADVANCE !

          61. occupybacon says:

            Actually people like you spit on Russia.

          62. HiaNd says:

            Ukraine SWIFT threat likely a bluff but US weaponization of financial system only encourages Russia & China to dump dollar faster

          63. occupybacon says:

            Had read tens of such articles in Russian media trying to explain how less they care, proving how much – also you.

          64. JIMI JAMES says:

            Wrong again,russia payed off their debt 5-6 byears ago,you’re retarded!

          65. occupybacon says:

            Due to sanctions from 2015 they are not allowed to take any more loans from Western banks, that’s the reason of debt dropping, but also their growth dropped from 5% to 1-2% per year since then.

          66. Jens Holm says:

            ….And tomorrow the dollar is collapsed again and they can only afford to make clothe for their dwarfs for the wintertime.

            They love female muslim emmigrants, because they can buy or steel their clothe and make it into their own. In Florida most muslism women only use Hijab above the neck and sunglasses. The rest is sold and they are rich.

            ..And no one can see, who they are.

            Some are still a little shy and therefor dont shave below. We support Khomeini, they say – same nose.

          67. Jens Holm says:

            OCCY has the vital fact there. Even if Russia has great scientists with great ídeas, they cant be handled and distríbuted with showels, forks and spoons.

            And Yes, You are right. Prices are lower but the saleries are much lower too, so You can add the Russian living standard some.

            And true local produced stiff has to be calculated too, but the You forget that USA produce a lot themself and also has to be upgraded.

            The opposite countries fx are like Denmark. We import a lot, upgrade it use soe Ourself and sell the rest with profit. By that You have a more honest picture of the GDP. Its also more riske in the up an downs for the world economy.

            But we have changes. They are mainly we produce a lot of electricity by windpower and try to spend less in fossil energy by better warming and coling systems. Its the same with cars. New cars hopefuly mainly can be driven by wind and solar cell electricity.

          68. Lone Ranger says:

            LR has the vital fact there. Even if U.S. has great scientists with great ídeas, they cant be handled and distríbuted with showels, forks and spoons.

            And Yes, You are right. Prices are higher but the saleries are much lower too adjust to gdp ppp and debt per capita, so You can add the U.S. living standard some.

            And true local produced stuff has to be calculated too, but the You forget that Russia produce a lot themself and also has to be upgraded.

            The opposite countries fx are like Hungary. We import a lot, upgrade it use soe Ourself and sell the rest with profit. By that You have a more honest picture of the GDP. Its also more riske in the up an downs for the world economy.

            But we have changes. They are mainly we produce a lot of electricity by windpower and try to spend less in fossil energy by better warming and coling systems. Its the same with cars. New cars hopefuly mainly can be driven by Mr.Fusion and zero point energy cell electricity.
            Fixed Trollstoy ?

          69. cechas vodobenikov says:

            porky thinking—larger middle income than most Western European nations, less income/wealth disparities and zero extreme poverty unlike—UK, Belgium, France, Italy, Denmark, USA, etc
            porky 9 yr old mind

          70. Jens Holm says:

            The money made by he middleclass are 2 things. One is high tax included and 2) is companies by their work get plus for the state and the stockholders.

            By that the middle class help the lowincommers up and fx give them free education, free school, free hospitals, free health care and same pension as anybody else as old as well as being not able to have a job.

            So when they are kind of poor a lot is free and You have to add that.

            So its not only about the middle class and them and me. We create money and spread them to help the poor.

            I never say its pefect but I say I see none better.

          71. HiaNd says:

            Purchasing parity refers to ALL daily EXPENSES that people of that country can have for their income = standard of living.

          72. Jens Holm says:

            He actually do know that and dont say poor Daca is the same as Dachau.

          73. occupybacon says:

            Kind if agreeing, except the quality if the goods may vastly differ, a bottle of water in Germany is cleaner than a bottle of water in India. I was saying that China can buy Russia, the same as Germany can buy Luxenburg.

          74. HiaNd says:

            “a bottle of water in Germany is cleaner than a bottle of water in India”
            But Russia is not in India and Russian water (lake Baikal example ) is 100 times cleaner than any German or other EU water. “Evian” one of the most expensive French waters “from the Alps” is polluted(proved by scientific lab test). ACID rains are falling on Germany !!! “Clean water?!!! Ha ha ha ha!!
            Russia is not Luxembourg. And Russia is not for sale (even though many Russian firms are for sale and open to investment) And as long Russia hes thousands of nukes NOBODY will impose anything to Russia.

          75. occupybacon says:

            It was an example about how PPP doesn’t say much about the living standard since it’s impossible to have same quality of products everywhere. How old are you, Emo boy?

          76. JIMI JAMES says:

            No monsato,nuff said,the truth has dusted yous once again,just saying:

          77. occupybacon says:

            I bet you like to drink water with feces over monsanto, even your typing stinks.

          78. JIMI JAMES says:

            Russias poor class live healthier and stronger than middle class usa todays!

          79. occupybacon says:

            That’s why their life expectancy is 5 years liwer than americans :))

      2. Lone Ranger says:

        Russia-China will lead the World, you better get use to it.

        1. Jens Holm says:

          Russai just simply dont educate people to the needed well educated middleclass and by that cant be able to produce more and better as well as distribute.

          1. Lone Ranger says:

            U.S./Denmark just simply dont educate people to the needed well educated middleclass and by that cant be able to produce more and better as well as distribute.

          2. Jens Holm says:

            Facts in GDP as well as statistics for Denmark, EU and the World dont say so at all.

            Imports: The top imports of Denmark are Cars ($5.09B), Refined Petroleum ($4.52B), Passenger and Cargo Ships ($3.53B), Packaged Medicaments ($3.32B), and Crude Petroleum ($2.57B), importing mostly from Germany ($22.6B), Sweden ($11.2B), Netherlands ($7.71B), China ($6.9B), and Norway ($5.52B)

            Export goods wind turbines, pharmaceuticals, machinery and instruments, meat and meat products, dairy products, fish, furniture and design
            Main export partners Germany(+) 15.5% Sweden(+) 11.6% United Kingdom(+) 8.2% United States(+) 7.5% Norway(+) 6.0% China(-) 4.4% (2017)

            Even small we have world companies such as Maersk line and fx has the biggest insuline producer in the world.

            You seemes to know nothing about Denmark fx You easy can find semilar to this:

            best Higher Education System in the World. The essential logic behind the development of national rankings is that it is the higher education system as a whole, not just research intensive universities, that matters for the economic and cultural development of a nation.

            We also devellop main parts below that level in typical middle class jobs, which is very important for using high tech.

          3. Lone Ranger says:

            Denmark is far better off than the U.S.

          4. Jens Holm says:

            Thats a relative we are better. It makes more sense that USA need things we has and works well, so it also makes sense, they should implement parts of them and make them to their own.

            We seemes much better in Outsourcing bacause we get the resukts, we ask for.

            We also has much less insurrencecompanies making a lot of profit for the stockholders instead of being first class for all consumers. By that we never pay in the hospitals and need millions if we are hurt by car accidents or canser. its NO PAY.

            I mean: No on purpose gets hit by a car or try to implment canser to make the hostitals and insurrence companies to give them money.

            Parts of Our bureaucrasi is worse then the american versions – Haha :( I think irs´ts too slow but never corrupt.

          5. Lone Ranger says:

            Bureaucrasy might be worse but not the cirruption.

          6. Jens Holm says:

            Botk Karl and Harpo Marx said so too.

          7. Lone Ranger says:

            You should know as the local comedian…

          8. JIMI JAMES says:


          9. Lone Ranger says:

            Your education system is libernazi run by soros and the cia.
            One only has to read your comments…

          10. Jens Holm says:

            If Soros really did Our wellfare as Your tranplant reducer tell You, I would send him Christmas a Christmas gift.

            But its not like that. We do things Ourself including me.

            Our education system educates many, thats the point. Thats why we trust and support the state, work hard and also are rewarded for using Our skills paid pr Our.

            We have world record in people woking in % as wel as being number one in low corruption.

            I allow me to be proud of that.

          11. Lone Ranger says:

            Thsts what you think.
            Unfortunatelly your idea about the World has little to do with reality.
            You can thank papa soros…
            Best slaves are the ones whom dont know that they are slaves…

          12. Jens Holm says:

            Haha. Maybee we are nice to Soro and You are not.

            I know I have a good life and my neigbors has good lives too.

            I also can compare with the life my Grandfathers and Mothers had, which also is very visible in statistics. Most people here think Sooros probatly is Zorro or someone like You.

            4 of them emmigrated because they were poor and had no hope for anything better. Thats how I understand americans as well as half of the incommers here well.

            When there is no grass anything even it only look like grass is better.

          13. Lone Ranger says:

            Life must be prospering in the local jihadi enclave of Kopenhagen…

          14. Jens Holm says:

            Kopenhagen is many things. It also is a mainproducer of goods and service to pay for those Jihadists – too.

            Most og Our few Jihadists are not violent and mainly follow Our laws. Some are impossible to integrate, but they do no harm apart from they dont contribute by work.

            We do trytry to spread them out and make them educate and work.

            The main problem is overcrime from several muslims countries. Its normal overcrime as if some few more % are raised you it as education. Its very difficult because most people fx from Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Somalia are no crimers.

          15. Lone Ranger says:

            You can be proud about that…

          16. Dina Reyes says:

            Happy RyqMlaJF.Com

          17. Séamus Ó Néill says:

            I hope you don’t mean educated to your standard….very low?

          18. Jens Holm says:

            Yes, I mean my standard and my country standard. It pays off for all consumers here,

          19. JIMI JAMES says:

            Russias education is one of the best in the world,get off them monsato drugs!

      3. Jens Holm says:

        Haha. China will eat the Russian Sibian tail. hey even will take the tigers and make them into medicine.

        1. Lone Ranger says:

          Haha. China will eat the Americant dream. hey even will take the bald eagles and make them into medicine.
          Fixed Trollstoy ?

        2. occupybacon says:

          Sad but true.

        3. cechas vodobenikov says:

          if LSD jens begs nicely she can join Russia as colony; or perhaps Finland will annex you after u leave NATO
          north of China near Russian border has been depopulating to southern regions in China—Jenny dumb

          1. Jens Holm says:

            I have see the China visions. As long as Russia dont change and can produce things themself, the things and the products will be produced in China.

            So its very much the same, where Russia sell EU low tech products and mainly fuel and food for almost no profit.

            Russia up says: We prouce almost anything based on fuel down to the cheepes plastic bags. We ipgrade Our food products, so they go into any EU shop and can be bought right away.

            I see no preparasions for that. EDucation takes years and has t be integrated and with many veterans – so to speak.

          2. JIMI JAMES says:

            Bosch plugs made in + made russian copper,shit over the german platinum in every aspect,also nephews 1.2 litre opel with the russian plugs idles smotther than anything you ever ran.

            oh and russian manufactured struts the most rigid best welded and dampening rates like bilstein,saved over $500,just a few assumed low tech products?
            There you go,dusted by the truth again,if anything i could in real life:

      4. gypsygreek says:

        If it was true, you wouldn’t devote your life for shitstorming about Russia

        1. occupybacon says:

          Well, they still have the nukes which makes them the monkey with a grenade

          1. HiaNd says:

            Bigoted Ukro-NAZI twat. That is all you can do, puke hatred and jealousy.
            You bankrupted African standard of living country doesn’t have even for buying one “grenade”.

          2. occupybacon says:

            Don’t destroy your day so early.

          3. JIMI JAMES says:

            The only monkeys are those sick fascist fks you idolise who nuke japan:

        2. Jens Holm says:

          he main part of shit is made by the Russians themself. So many behave like Germans did in Barbaroissa.

      5. cechas vodobenikov says:

        bacon fat lies again—Russia #5 larger than German economy—per IMF/World Bank
        while u gypsy ukrop beggars are indebted by trillions USD—Russia, china vast reserves….if u beg nicely we will give u kasha
        2 days ago Russia delivered 475 tonnes humanitarian aid to Syria
        poor beggar bacon

        1. occupybacon says:

          PPP is purchase pariy for local goods, it doesn’t say how ‘large’ an economy is. A German can go in Russia and buy few times more than a Russian. Where is your high IQ now, chechas?

          1. HiaNd says:

            GDP PPP “purchasing parity” (not “purchase pariy” illiterate dork!) is real standard of living equivalent because it shows how high standard of living people can have for their salaries,pensions (and not only for “local goods” but ALL EXPENSES) !

          2. Rhodium 10 says:

            No!..PPP is the real thermometer of the economy…your example is purely
            currency especulative…Russia produce X German car in its plant..cost 15.000$…Italy produce that X German car in its plant..cost 30.000$…at the end both produce the same car…it means that Russia has a GDP of 15.000$ and Italy a GDP of 30.000$..when both have produced the same car?….and the final sale is the same?…other example Russia produce 100 planes and Italy 50 with the same cost….who is richer?..the one who has 100 or 50?…thats why Russia has a debt of 12% of the GDP while Italy has a debt of 140%..Russia has 640BM reserve and Italy 150BM…

          3. Jens Holm says:

            You forget we buy cars as best to the price and should wonder why Russia produce no cars. So You have to add market.

            You are or partly wrong about the debt too. Debt also is much bigger in Italy because its very productive and trusted and very important also support by EU by Euro as well as by dollars.

            Italy has big problems, but You have to adjust many, many % to compare.

            You also forget productivity. Russia might do those planes but much slower. Its very much about production in time as well.

          4. Rhodium 10 says:

            Why Russia produce no cars?..have you been in Tolyatti( Lada,Renault,Nissan)…or Vladivostok( Mazda) or Kaluga (Volvo)…kaliningrad (Avtomotor BMW)..Nizhny Novgorod ( Mercedes, Skoda), Ulyanovsk (UAZ)…beside 6 more plants…

          5. occupybacon says:

            Russian average wage 450 Eur. Italy average wage 1750 Eur. The same German car needs to be 3.5 times cheaper in Russia. Impossible, PPP works for local goods purchased with local wage.

            Also from military point of view, average wage in usa is around 5400 USD which means 4500 Eur. That’s 10 times the Russian wage. But a Russian made airplane will never be 10 times cheaper than an Ameeican one.

            Leave the TV games and do your homework.

          6. JIMI JAMES says:

            That’s why everything in italy costs over 4 x compared to Australia,
            1750 eu you have to suk c0k on national tv ,completely irrelevant in the real world,Italians give no discount,not feasable postal means yet that $120 designer tie (made in italy) was sourced for $5 from china,so much for Italian quality huh!

          7. Rhodium 10 says:

            you dont understand why I wrote…if you have made a car cost 15000$ and Italy have made the same car 30000$…it doesnt mean that you produce half of Italy? because the final product is the SAME!…use your bacon brain!

          8. occupybacon says:

            Read it slowly. The wage of a Russian is 3.5 times lower than the wage of an Italian do that car price should be 3.5 times lower in Russia.

            The wage of an American is 10 times higher than the wage of a Russian but an American airplane will never be 10 times more expensive than a Russian airplane.

          9. Rhodium 10 says:

            Please use your bacon brain..i am not talking about dollars/Euro in your pocket…I am talking about production quantity!…of course salarys are lower than western…but entrepreneurs earn money in Russia( I know someone who have the same business in Spain and Russia..and its more profitable in Russia due the low operating cost)…there are Italians who have business in Russia ( for example in Anapa)…Pizza shop and supermarket…he told that it is more profitable to him Russia than Italy…because cost of premises and salaries devour benefits….

          10. occupybacon says:

            And who earns more from the Pizza business, Russians or Italians?

          11. Rhodium 10 says:

            Again use your Bacon Brain….I said that entrepreneurs earn money because low operating expenses..it doesnt matter if they are Russians, Italians or Polinesians…..

          12. occupybacon says:

            They earn more money than a Russian antrepreneur because Russian people don’t have readition in this field. They are good workers, just need managers. Pizza is not something that brings real value, and this is how the Chinese will take over.

          13. Rhodium 10 says:

            Nothing new!..Russians due to 70 years of comunism…dont have a decent distribution chain…have no business skills like in West…dont even practice fake smiles to customers…but it doesnt change that they have a productive economy while West now have a speculative economy which only benefits bankers& politicians….but in long term cause unemployment and loss of purchasing power despite high salaries…

          14. occupybacon says:

            Funny how you contradict yourself….

            “dont have a decent distribution chain…have no business skills
            but it doesnt change that they have a productive economy while West now have a speculative economy”

            Probably you are a communist nostalist, that would explain the lack of logic

          15. Rhodium 10 says:

            what contradiction?…you can produce 100 planes and dont have a decent distribution&maitenance network…but you have produced 100 planes!…you can produce ten million of beercans and fail in logistic…but you have produced 10 millions….

          16. occupybacon says:

            Exactly how communism failed. Let’s produce moarrr

          17. Rhodium 10 says:

            I said that 70 years of comunism makes difficult to develop comercial marketing where never has been..but it doesnt mean that Russia are advancing in this area while own production allow Russia increase Forex reserves…

          18. JIMI JAMES says:

            P.P.P IS THE REAL PERFORMANCE BASED ,Not the typo reichstream/phaed
            report of the goymz whoms comparison in real world P.P.P is far worse (USA BARELY SCRAPES IN THE TOP 100)regardless!
            The cost of living is much healthier in russia,like it or not just how it is and like china house people in their own homes compared to usa = no brainer:

            All you got is a narrow window to make some stock investments,before that begins to go crashing down too,to import 1lb they are asking as much as $105us,guess what,i got it from poland delivered for $8.00 see nowadays you gotta use your head not the fake buddies strapon its head,get the drift?

          19. occupybacon says:

            No, the size of the country is the real performance. Just to be sure Russia is nr1.

        2. Jens Holm says:

          No statistics apart from higly biased Rusian ones says so. NONE.

          A hint might be German cars versus Russin missiles.

          1. JIMI JAMES says:

            Vs russian trucks would crush all of them anytime,any place,anywhere!

        3. daniel says:

          By GDP Russia is number 11

        4. daniel says:

          By PPP Russia is number 6 right after Germany

      6. Harry Smith says:

        ROFL! Bacon are you trying to suck Chinese dick after realizing your previous master can’t pay you?

        1. occupybacon says:

          That’s what Russian media does every day, praising China and trying to shove Russia in articles treating the economic competition between US and China. Ofcourse adding the word ‘military’ so they can fit somewhere.

          1. Harry Smith says:

            ROFL. Never spotted everyday China praising in Russian MSM. Maybe you watch some kind of Chinese counterfeit Russian TV?

          2. occupybacon says:

            RT and Sputnik and sometimes here.

          3. Harry Smith says:

            RT and Sputnik are not operating inside of Russia. ROFL.

          4. occupybacon says:

            But they reflect the internal narratives.

          5. Harry Smith says:

            How do you know if you don’t watch internal Russian MSM? LOL

          6. occupybacon says:

            Because I believe in Honesty ;)

          7. Harry Smith says:

            ROFL. How you can believe in something you never had?

          8. occupybacon says:

            A bit too judgemental for a member of the nation with a holly mission.

          9. Harry Smith says:

            At least you didn’t denied you have no honesty! ROFL

          10. occupybacon says:

            Ooops :”x

          11. Lone Ranger says:

            CNN is praising China more than the EU and Russia combined.

      7. JIMI JAMES says:

        Russia is the greatest country in the world,get off the fkn drugs they could kill you!

        1. occupybacon says:

          Greatest consumer if krokodil

          1. JIMI JAMES says:

            Corocodile + shark is yummy:

    2. Lone Ranger says:

      Truth hurts try to handle it Trollstoy ??

      1. Jens Holm says:

        I have no problems.My Granfather worked at a cleaning facility. He did the same day after day cleaning water from toilets.

        After that Your leftovers was tranformed to fertilizer:)

        1. Lone Ranger says:

          Thats a cool story Jens.
          I didn’t know they had toilettes in the desert back than…

          1. Jens Holm says:

            We had camels in the streets too.

          2. Lone Ranger says:

            Arabian nights…

    3. Lone Ranger says:

      You know a lot about suicide bombers dont you Jens…
      Tell me, will there be a beheading in Kopenhagen today as well?

    4. cechas vodobenikov says:

      they do not teach symbolic logic or rhetorical fallacies in your village? a reasonable equivalence compares your attempt to craft an argument to a developmentally delayed suicide bomber that cannot find the button to explode the bomb

      1. Jens Holm says:

        Its a Putin propagandalf.

  4. Lone Ranger says:

    Pretty much spot on.
    Albeit Im romantic optimist so I will wait till January 20 to draw final concludion.

    1. BMWA1 says:

      82nd Airborne ?

      1. Jens Holm says:

        Hot ballon driven by his own behind.

      2. Lone Ranger says:

        Insurrection Act…
        Could be…

  5. Potato Man says:

    At it’s core nothing will change in US, Trump wasn’t any better just another Wahhabi+Zion lover.

    1. Jens Holm says:

      Thats right. As writen before they should need a Sanders but got Biden. I think Biden can make some more stabilty and thats it.

      1. cechas vodobenikov says:

        more ignorance—the prez in USa cannot creat policy unless she has majorities in all congress; and when this last occurred during the Obama dictatorship–no legislation was created….for u “stability” means decline increasing debt, domestic poverty, food insecurity (60 million in food lines), permanent closures of businesses (estimates vary widely between 100,000 to 5 times this

        1. Jens Holm says:

          The USA President should not be able to do that. There are 50 UNITED STATES. They have high independensy in a lot of things.

          Many things by that is made in state by state levels. Some states are very active in saving energy and also water and their inviroments. Others dont care.

          About 34 states has death penalty and a few states has education systems semilar to Ours.

          I will remind You that in even a small state like Ours Our Premiere Minister cant decide. Most things are decidings inside a context, where You only can change in levels.

          She has to have the Parlament getting at least 50% of the members with here – or sometimes as´t least not agaiunst her.

          In important things we all vote. We have voted us into EU by all voting We also rg´hought abortion was very important and voted for abortion is better then illigal abortions in kir´tchens and bathrooms, unwanted children andwomen named as hookers or worse.

          So Biden has to find majority on al levels. Thats why they only got the small “Obama” care. But I find it possible to go from there and a little by a little.

          Too many expect some President can handle things just like that. The world is not just like that. Often its in many small steps. So I hope for more but only expect some few smallsteps for Bioden in the wellfare system even it makes sense fx to copy Ours and put mpost of their into the garbage sector.

          I again will say, that 270 millions are not in a food line and at least some of those in those lines actually gets food – if they didnt, they would not be i those lines.

  6. cechas vodobenikov says:

    the empire may be deep but a rests on a decayed foundation of fake people, frayed infrastructure, and idiots that have always derived from the lowest most incompetent classes from other nations….when Biden is in a coma perhaps Harris will call on jens and bacon for advice on how to accelerate the collapse of the plywood Hollywood empire

    1. William D says:

      how are we decayed when we have free and fair elections? our infrastructure is frayed compared to first world standards, that is fixable just like we’re fixing Trump and kicking him out for good… it would require a coma to remove Putin/Erdogan/Maduro/Jinping from power

  7. johnny rotten says:

    These definitions tell you how much the world has changed, once it was called plutocracy while now analysts prefer to call them deep state, but don’t fool yourself they are still the same criminals as they once were.

  8. Dick Von Dast'Ard says:

    It’s fairly certain that the aftermath of Covid is going to leave the authoritarian West behaving in an even more unhinged manner, fashion and ways.
    Banking Corp will continue exploiting the debt serfs with Neo-feudalism.

    1. Jens Holm says:

      Thats probatly correct, but we are a world economy so almost all others will decline too. I must say its very good my country has a level to decline from.

      My worriesvare for the many, which cant decline. You should be that too.

      And its the same for the climate change whoever makes it. Many parts of the world growing a lot of fod and being high populated soon might not be able to grow it until they change a lot. And can they. I doubt it.

      I see many solution for the monetary systems. If Im alive when it happens, I would let the states take over and silently build a new and better system. You also ignore, that we might not need banks anymore at all.

  9. zman says:

    Same ole, same ole from the saker. Mossadnik Trump was nothing but a deep state puppet as well. All one has to do is look at what he ‘accomplished’. Yes, extol the major deeds of Trump, proving he fought deep state. Loaded his cabinet constantly with deep state neocons and did for Israel what no other president ever did. Divided the country with false hopes and promises he never kept. Yeah, he was the hope of the world and the US. Ask the Syrians, Houthis, Iranians, Iraqis about that. Major assassinations, abandoning security agreements (how many now?), coups in South America, more and more sanctions. Yep, he was a real keeper. Saker should look up the story about the Trojan Horse, as he obviously has never heard of it. Trump did what he was supposed to do and now his retarded shit is no longer needed. One thing that has always made me wonder about saker is his non-investigations into Trump, Mossad, Epstein, Cohn. That goes for all the other Trumpets as well. How does one recognize Israels pivotal role in world events and ignore this? How does Trump fit as a hero, when he spent 4 years on his knees to Israel?…the biggest impediment to peace in the entire world.

  10. Cheryl Brandon says:


  11. Trap Is Not Gay says:

    Stole, not won.

    The democracy was a preparation for all these manipulated and fraudulent (s)elections.

  12. JIMI JAMES says:

    Maybe if cia//pentagon with their modern lushy presidents,had the balls to put their original (deep state)pirate flag next to the existing,others may respect their identitys with caution.

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