Syrian War Report – July 17, 2017: Israel Opposes To Ceasefire Brokered By US And Russia

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The Syrian Army Tiger Forces and Tribal forces have liberated Bir al-Zamlah, Bir Rumaylan, Eastern Zamlah, the Zamlah pumping station and the gas fields of Zalmah and Khala, and Fahed and Dubaysan oil fields from ISIS terrorists in the southern part of Raqqah province.

Meanwhile, 12 Syrian soldiers have been allegedly killed in Hamima village in the eastern Homs countryside as a result of an ISIS attack started with VBIED. ISIS also claimed that it destroyed two SAA tanks with ATGMs and captured a T-62 tank, a bulldozer, 23mm and 12.7mm guns and two Konkurs missiles. A fighting is ongoing in the area.

Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) claimed on Sunday that its special operation units have managed to detonate a VBIED inside the Al-Mina al-Bida Naval base operated by the Syrian Navy in the northern part of Lattakia province. According to HTS, the attack killed and wounded of a number of Syrian service members. Some pro-government media argued that the photos are fake. However, local sources said that the explosion took place but without significant damage to equipment or personnel.

The US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) are still facing significant problems with breaking the ISIS defense inside the city of Raqqah. Almost no gains were made during last few days. According to Kurdish sources, 200 new US servicemen have joined the Raqqah advance in order to help the SDF to overcome these difficulties. A notable number of US Special Operations Forces units had been already involved in the operation, acting as forward air controllers and snipers and overseeing SDF units.

At the same time, the US-led coalition is attempting to solve the growing tensions between the SDF and local Arabs as well as between Kurdish and Arab factions of the US-backed force. They key problem is that nobody on the ground believes in the mainstream media mantra about so-called Arab allies of the coalition that allegedly are the core of the US-backed force. The SDF is almost fully controlled by Kurdish militias that are going to establish a full political and security control over the city and to include it into their self-proclaimed Kurdish-dominated federation after the defeat of ISIS.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday said that he opposes the ceasefire deal in southern Syria brokered by the United States and Russia. The reason is that the agreement does not serve so-called Israeli interests. According to Netanyahu, the agreement perpetuates Iranian plans to set up a long-term presence on Israel’s northern border.

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  • John

    What can we expect from such the rabid child-killer as Netanyahu. A hyena is a gentle thing compared to that murderer of humanity. He is now beginning to shake in his boots at the prospect of Syria and Iraq kicking the shit out of his ISIS backed pigs, the loss of the stolen Golan Heights and being overrun by Hezbollah and The Syrian Army. During the ’73 war he had Egyptian prisoners of war dig their own graves and buried them alive, and Egypt in these days support the Gaza blockade, the annexing of all Palestinian territories and kiss the Zionist ass. How shameful. But let the bastard sweat, he has good reason to.

    • Pat Kittle

      Netanyahu & his kind are the foulest war criminals in all history, BAR NONE.

  • Real Anti-Racist Action

    The Jews started the first world war and the second.
    They get rich off of wars where Goyim’s die fighting Goyim’s.
    Jews will always destroy everyone else’s lands for get rich quick schemes.

    • stringball

      Israel is the problem not the Djews. Neturei Karta qv.

      • Samuel Boas

        The jews are also the problem. There eternal lust for power no matter the costs. Why else have they been kicked out of dozens of countries over the years. Give them a finger and they take the whole hand.

      • Kell
      • Real Anti-Racist Action

        The Ashkenazi-Jews you refer to came from the Khazarian-Empire, which is modern Turkey. After the Huns attacked the Ashkenazi-Jews these Jews then invaded the ingenious European Tribal peoples ancestral home lands.
        Since then they have been a problem.
        Israel is not the problem. Is Israel were owned and run by Palestinians and ethnic-Hebrews there would be no problem.
        Ashkenazi-Jews who are really Khazar’s are totally the problem! hahaha

    • Solomon Krupacek

      jews started the end of ice age

      • PZIVJ

        Not to mention the collapse of the Roman Empire.
        Check your history :p

        • Solomon Krupacek

          ysou are totally UN-scientific!

          jews have big nose. they warm up more air. the more bignosyjews, the more warm air breath out. this lead to collapse of ice walls…

        • Kell

          Look up the lone surviver from the Masda siege that was taken back to Rome and their subsequent influence, look up Black Nobility of Venice.
          The Barbarian tribes were just asymptom of Romes weakness, why was it weak???

          • PZIVJ

            Perhaps a bridge to far?
            If I recall my history Rome lost 4 legions crossing the Rhine river, and still would not give up the fight. Such is the cost of a military dictatorship that feels it must expand in order to survive.

          • Real Anti-Racist Action

            Rome became a multi-racial empire such as Babylon became towards the end of their demise and the same with Persia and Greece and the UK and now the USA.
            When a Republic turns multi-racial then it morphs into a rapid Empire that quickly falls in on itself and looses all sense of cohesion, neighborhoods get divided and IQ’s fall.
            That is how most mega Empires fall apart.

          • tigbear

            Some say the Masada story is fake.

          • Kell

            The survivor that went backto Rome and poisoned the Republic?

            Cant remember where I read about it, maybe William Coopers “Behold a pale Horse”

          • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

            Historians can’t fins any truth to the story other than a place with 9 people who committed suicide, but this is in line with Jew mentality over play the numbers .

          • Pat Kittle

            You mean 6 million did NOT die at Masada??

      • Kell
      • Real Anti-Racist Action

        No they did not. That is factually incorrect.
        You are wrong again and yet another claim.

        • Pat Kittle

          No proof, just denial??

      • Pat Kittle

        Actually Jews started the ISIS Age.

        Netanyahu obviously is desperate to keep it going.

        The time is coming when Israel will be held accountable for its war crimes — the worst war crimes in history, BAR NONE.

  • Sadde

    Israeli logic gets more comical every day…
    The agreement concerns INtra SYRIAN parties hence not intended to serve Israeli interests.

  • Bill Wilson

    These asshole SF writers do a miserable job of twisting facts.

  • SOF

    Nut-yahoo is another Cabal Deep State puppet. His air force continue to give the SAA problems but somehow the S300 and S400 batteries are not doing enough or their electronics have been leaked to the Israelis.

    • as

      SAA just can’t add up more adversaries at this time. Most of them fighting on the ground know very well their enemy include US and Israel.

      • Real Anti-Racist Action

        Shooting down ISIS air-force minuses problems, it does not add problems.
        Syria and Israel are already at war, the war has been non stop for decades.
        Right now Israel is winning and conquering Syrian territory, and hopefully the Christian-Shia-Sunni-Alawite-Zoroastrian alliance can revers these losses and liberate Syria’s heartland.
        Ever before the war with ISIS broke out, Israel was bombing power-plants in Eastern Syria and even then Russian air defense could not even spot the Israeli Air Force planes or helicopters flying from one end of Syria to the other.

  • Kell
  • as

    Why should it include Israel interests in any way ?

    • Pat Kittle

      PROMINENT ISRAELI RABBI:
      “GENTILES NEED TO DIE”
      [“GOYIM HAVE NO PLACE IN THE WORLD”]

      By Gordon Duff
      STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor/Veterans Today

      “Gentiles need to die….goyim have no place in the world.” This was part of a rambling diatribe of racist slurs heard on Israel’s Channel 10 this weekend, The perpetrator? Leader of the Israeli Sephardic community, Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, founder of the Shas Party, part of the Likud coalition headed by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

      This isn’t the first time Rabbi Yosef has said these things. The immensely popular Likudist Rabbi, when not calling for the slaughter of Palestinians or advocating the destruction of Christianity, offers recipes, marriage tips and lots of advice on how Jews can rule the world as the new “master race.” Rabbi Yosef is a combination of Jon Stewart, Rush Limbaugh, Pat Robertson with more than a touch of Adolf Hitler thrown in for moderation.

      Nearly every day now, the world is subjected to one claim or another by a “spiritual” leader in Israel. One day it’s “G-d created the planet ONLY for Jews” or the continual diatribes against Christianity, “Jesus was a criminal and liar, spending eternity in excrement and his mother, Mary, was a whore.” This one is repeated so often it is tiring.

      …[CONTINUED]:
      — [ http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/10/20/gordon-duff-israeli-rabbi-gentiles-need-to-die/ ]

      • Guilty Feat

        Yawn. Ovadia Yosef has been dead since 2013. If you’re going to cut and paste something from a haterag like Veterans Today, at least make it current.

        • Pat Kittle

          You White-hating hasbara Jews are lost without your silly talking points.

          FACT:
          Israel had its biggest funeral ever for your disgusting Rabbi Ovadia, knowing fully well he preached all that genocidal Jew-supremacist filth (as we see in my previous comment).

          And he preached that filth right up to his death 4 years ago — and now you want us despised goyim to forget what an evil Jewish leader he was.

          :-)

          Hitler (your favorite bogey-man) died 72 years ago, but in his case you want us despised goyim to “never forget [with exclamation points].”

          You Jew-supremacists are utterly oblivious to how phony you come across to those of us who think for ourselves. You will not get away with your genocidal quest for “Greater Israel.” The tide is turning.

          THE GOYIM KNOW.

          :-)

  • Thegr8rambino

    “There are things in the universe which are simply and purely evil. A warrior does not seek to understand them, or compromise with them. He seeks only to obliterate them” – grand admiral thrawn :))

  • Pat Kittle

    It’s incredible what the Terrorist Theocracy of Eretz Israel gets away with.

    Even if Hitler did everything these shysters claim he did (he didn’t), he’d still be an amateur compared to Israel’s war criminals.

    • Guilty Feat

      Is anyone going to do anything about this Holocaust denying halfwit?

      • Pat Kittle

        I’m no Holocaust denier!

        I don’t deny any of the Holocausts Israel is responsible for.

        • Guilty Feat

          I see what you did there. Clever.

          To be clear, Pat Kittle, like David Irving and other discredited twerps, denies that Hitler’s Final Solution for the Jews resulted in the extermination of millions of innocent Jewish men, women and children in deaths camps such as Auschwitz and Bergen Belsen.

          At the same time that he denies that the genocide of the Jews during WWII ever happened, he also believes that no Jew could ever actually be innocent and that Jews deserve to be killed even while they weren’t. He refuses to acknowledge his have-your-cake-and-eat-it hate speech.

          Pat Kittle, like Adolf Hitler and other failed little men, dreams of a world which would be Judenrein, free of Jews. He thinks all Jews are vermin who should be destroyed.

          Like other odious Jew-haters, he will leave a very little, easily forgotten stain on humanity once he is gone.

          • Pat Kittle

            Guilty Feat:

            Fortunately, not all Jews are like you.

            Unfortunately, many of them are, as we see with massive scientific evidence:

            9-11 — ISRAEL DID IT:
            — [ https://wikispooks.com/wiki… ]1

            We despised goyim are learning the awful truth about you. No “hate crime laws” will prevent us from waking up.

          • Guilty Feat

            Like I said, just another, dull, Hitler-fellating Jew hater. Yawn.

          • Pat Kittle

            You hasbara Jews always make a big show of how “tolerant” you are, and how you love “diversity” & gays, blah blah blah.

            We’re supposed to overlook your childishly homophobic insults (“Hitler-fellating”).

            :-)

            And your cartoon-like self-pity (“Jew hater”).

            :-)

          • Guilty Feat

            Wow. Seems I hit a nerve. Don’t worry Pattie. The vicious hate that keeps your icy heart beating will soon be forgotten.

            Describing you as Hitler-fellating is not homophobic. There is nothing wrong with fellatio. It’s an act of love and affection. Like the love and affection you have for the deranged, genocidal, failed little Nazi, Adolf Hitler. I thought it was a more evocative image than just having you hold hands with him, gazing into his eyes.

            Either way, the point is the same. You love Hitler. You hate Jews.

            Furthermore, when I describe you as a dull, little Jew hater, I’m not looking for pity for me. I’m OK, thanks. I have a happy and fulfilling life. You, on other hand are a monomanical Jew-hating saddo. That’s pitiful.

            I. Pity. You.

          • Pat Kittle

            You Jew-supremacists are the most self-pitying people in history.

            LOTS of people all over the world feel the same way about you. We’re all simply “Jew-haters,” right?

            :-)

            You people have never done anything to earn your reputation, right?

            :-)

            9-11 — ISRAEL DID IT:
            — [ https://wikispooks.com/wiki… ]

            :-)

            THE GOYIM KNOW.

          • Guilty Feat

            Since you ask, yes. Every sad little fellow that feels the way YOU do about Jews is simply a Jew hater.

            Not sure why this is difficult for you to admit. You hate Jews. Why not just say it proudly. You have no problem expressing views which display your Jew hatred to the world, why not simply admit that “I, Pat Kittle, have an irrational distaste for Jewish people. I think they are vermin.”?

            What are you afraid of?

          • Pat Kittle

            Thanks for the reminder — here’s a question loooong overdue, and one you people will be hearing much more of:

            Why not just say it proudly. You have no problem expressing views which display your Gentile hatred to the world, why not simply admit that “I, using my hasbara screen name, ‘Guilty Feat,’ have an irrational distaste for Gentile people. I think they are vermin.”?

            What are you afraid of?

          • Guilty Feat

            I am not afraid of anything. I have love for all people regardless of race, creed, gender or orientation. I treat all people exactly as I find them. I hold no prejudices against anyone. I do not think of any other human being as vermin. I do not believe myself to be innately superior to any other human being.

            You attempt at projecting your own intense feelings of antipathy to Jews on to me is another abject failure.

            I have nothing but love for all mankind.

            You hate Jews.

          • Pat Kittle

            “Guilty Feat” the hired Israeli “hasbara” troll:

            — [ https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=hasbara+troll&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-020 ]

            THE GOYIM KNOW.
            :-)

          • Guilty Feat

            That’s hilarious. When accused of bigotry, you see no irony at all in squeezing someone into a generic description to serve your own lack of imagination. Were you trying to be funny?

            I get that this is difficult for you Pattie, but I’m just a human being like you. Your debilitating determination to place everyone in groups that you have defined is indicative of low intellect. Like those silly little Nazis in Charlottesville, you don’t have the capacity of understanding for most decent human interactions.

            To be clear. Little Kittle is claiming that I am paid to write here. He has no evidence for this daft claim because there is none. It is an easily provable lie. Anyone who has any doubt that Kittle is a liar should feel free to contact me. You can find my name by hovering over the words GuiltyFeat. I’m on Facebook and LinkedIn. I’m just an ordinary person with a day job and a low tolerance for daft bigots.

          • Pat Kittle

            “Guilty Feat” the hired Israeli “hasbara” troll:

            Much to your displeasure, others can see the evidence, and make up their own minds as to what you are:

            — [ https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=hasbara+troll&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-020 ]

            Do you just hate it — THE GOYIM KNOW.
            :-)

          • Guilty Feat

            Now you’re just repeating yourself. Running out of fresh lies?

          • Pat Kittle

            “Guilty Feat” the hired Israeli “hasbara” troll:

            “Lies”??

            Is this a lie??
            “RABBI EXPLAINS IMPORTANCE OF SUCKING BABY’S PENIS”:

            — [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzs-09Of99I ]

            You people are too much!
            :-)

          • Guilty Feat

            No. That’s a video that has nothing to do with me. Your “you people” is another example of your idiotic bigotry in assuming that all Jews are exactly the same and think the same way and believe the same things. You hate Jews, so you lump them all together under the umbrella of something which you find to be awful which has to do with a Jew.

            Your most recent lie is referring to me repeatedly as a “hired” troll.

            You’re a silly liar making silly claims which have no basis in truth. Along the way you find a publicly available video and try to claim that you have uncovered some kind of global truth that Jews don’t want you to know. It’s almost as if you have no idea how foolish you look.

            I’m starting to wonder whether Little Kittle exists to satirize ignorance and dumb bigotry. No one can really be this willing to make a twit of themselves, can they?

          • Pat Kittle

            “Guilty Feat” the hired Israeli “hasbara” troll:
            — [ https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=hasbara+troll&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-020 ]

            Now now, temper temper.
            :-)

            Would you like us lowly goyim to just shut up already, and start your next war for Israel — this time with Iran??

          • Guilty Feat

            Lying again Little Kittle? Are you capable of posting without including lies?

            I love that you think I’m losing my temper, you daft fellow. I love that calling you out as a liar forces you to respond with more lies, you Pavlovian halfwit.

            You lie so much, you must have to wear asbestos trousers. Filthy, pitiful, Jew-hating liar.

          • Pat Kittle

            “Guilty Feat” the hired Israeli “hasbara” troll:
            — [ https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=hasbara+troll&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-020 ]

            Here’s what an ex-Israel Defense Forces (IDF) soldier says about your kind:

            INTRODUCTION BY GILAD ATZMON:
            “We are all aware of the Hasbara trolls, the Wikipedia Jews and the Israeli Neocon smear outlets. In the following important piece internet expert Jonathon Blakeley explores the vile and destructive impact of Sayanim and Hasbara agents on the social networks. What we really see is a surge of Zio-centric anti-social behaviour in our midst. They are united against humanity, humanism, pluralism, freedom of expression and tolerance basically all those things that are precious to the rest of us.”

            — [ http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/jonathon-blakeley-a-guide-to-hasbara-trolls.html ]
            :-)

          • Guilty Feat

            Wow! Gilad Atzmon, really? Why not Goebbels?

            Here’s what people who really care about what happens to the Palestinians in Israel have to say about Gilad Atzmon.

            https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/palestinian-writers-activists-disavow-racism-anti-semitism-gilad-atzmon

            I can’t wait to see what kind of silly horseshit you’re going to link to next. #fishinabarrel

          • Pat Kittle

            “Guilty Feat” the hired Israeli “hasbara” troll:
            — [ https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=hasbara+troll&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-020 ]

            It’s not just decent people on the Right who see through your nasty Jew supremacism.

            Decent people on the Left also see through your nasty Jew supremacism.

            “How I Stopped Being a Jew – why I can’t be Zionist”
            (by Shlomo Sand):
            — [ https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/08/11/why-i-cannot-be-a-zionist-an-open-letter-to-emmanuel-macron/ ]

          • Guilty Feat

            Actually I quite like Shlomo Sand. Nice one.

            Again, though, I like you to try to explain why you insist on lying about me being paid to post here and point to an example of my “nasty Jew supremacism”.

            Just because you’re a filthy racist bigot, doesn’t mean anyone else is.

          • Pat Kittle

            “Guilty Feat” the hired Israeli “hasbara” troll:
            — [ https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=hasbara+troll&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-020 ]

            You’re funny with steam coming out of your ears like that!
            :-)

            Like others of your kind, you put yourself on a pedestal proclaiming your love for all races. And the millions of brown people you’ve killed aren’t able to disagree.

            But here’s a Black guy who is still able to disagree with your sacred Holocau$t:

            “Holocaust is an ideological (not historical) phenomenon for the Khazarian Mafia”:

            — [ http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/09/24/holocaust-is-an-ideological-not-historical-phenomenon-for-the-khazarian-mafia/ ]

            (Jonas Alexis – Germar Rudolf – [Ntrvw])

            :-)

          • Guilty Feat

            Millions of brown people I’ve killed? Are you bonkers? I work in marketing.

            I assure you no one has to be on a pedestal to stand taller than a dirty Jew-hating liar.

            You avoid every question I ask and keep cutting and pasting any old shite that some other bigot scrawled. Hey Little Kittle, do you have any original ideas? Is your intellect too brittle, Kittle?

            Try to stay on topic, you funny fellow. What evidence do you have for me being a hired troll?

            Your consistent refusal to address your own lies is making you look halfwitted.

          • Pat Kittle

            “Guilty Feat” the hired Israeli “hasbara” troll:
            — [ https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=hasbara+troll&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-020 ]

            Simply clicking on that link provides truly MASSIVE evidence of Israel’s intense online propaganda (“marketing”) effort.

            And here’s the funniest thing about you hasbara trolls:

            Not a one of you hasbara has ever admitted being hasbara!
            :-)

            BTW, Israel lobby war criminals desperately keep the goyim fighting Israel’s criminal Mideastern wars:

            “Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman:
            We want Assad out of Syria no matter what the cost”:
            — [ http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/07/02/israeli-defense-minister-avigdor-lieberman-we-want-assad-out-of-syria-no-matter-what-the-cost/ ]

            Yes, THE GOYIM KNOW.
            :-)

          • Guilty Feat

            Brilliant logic, if you’re a halfwit. Dear Little Kittle, as any fule kno, the burden of proof is on the person making the claim. There is no way to prove I am not something, just as there is no way for you to prove that you are not a pedophile.

            It would be wrong for me to repeatedly state, “Pat Kittle is a pedophile” without providing sufficient evidence to back up such a dreadful and libelous claim.

            Anyone who seriously tried to suggest that “Pat Kittle is a pedophile” would be a fool.

            Likewise your claim that I am paid to post here holds no water. Likewise, you are a fool.

            That Lieberman quote is interesting and certainly newsworthy. Do you find it at all odd that the only place it was reported was on veteranstoday.com? Surely if it was legitimately sourced, it would show up somewhere else. Do you know what language he said it in? Do you have a recording of it? Do you seriously believe that Zionists control all media, across the internet EXCEPT veteranstoday.com? I really wonder sometimes if you are the real deal or just a little boy logged on to his racist grandad’s account.

            You are sooooo bad at this.

          • Guilty Feat

            To be clear, I have no evidence at all to support the notion that Pat Kittle is a pedophile. No matter how many times a person could claim to have seen this stated on websites, local news reports, police bulletins or witness statements, I have seen NOTHING AT ALL that gives credence to the absurd idea that Pat Kittle is a pedophile. NOTHING.

          • Pat Kittle

            “Guilty Feat” the hired Israeli “hasbara” troll:
            — [ https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=hasbara+troll&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-020 ]

            Anyone can click on that link and see MASSIVE evidence that Israel has a massive organized “Internet army” posting devious responses to criticism of Israel.

            I’ve encountered countless online Israel promoters who behave exactly like “hasbara” — INCLUDING YOU.

            After years & years of dealing with you people, NOT A ONE OF YOU HAS EVER ADMITTED BEING HASBARA! Not one!

            Just tell us this, “Guilty Feat”:

            Do you deny the existence of Israel’s “hasbara”?
            — [ https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=hasbara+troll&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-020 ]

            Well, do you?

          • Guilty Feat

            No, I guess I don’t. It seems perfectly reasonable that the Israeli government would pay people to post online to counteract the enormous amount of anti-Israel coverage that exists. I don’t think it’s a secret, although I understand why paid individuals would not reveal themselves. Tourism is a massive part of Israel’s economy and any sensible government would invest money in ensuring that it continues to succeed. I imagine there are plenty of other countries whose governments do the same. Hell, Russia and Qatar have international broadcast state-owned propaganda stations beaming partisan crap into millions of homes around the world. Surely that’s a bigger problem than a few sockpuppets, no?

            This link may be helpful to you – http://www.globes.co.il/en/article-tourism-to-israel-up-36-in-2016-1001171126

            That said, I am not paid by the Israeli government to post here and make a fool of you. I do that for free. I find it hard to imagine any representative of the Israeli government cutting me a check when I can freely say that I believe Benjamin Netanyahu is a self-aggrandizing buffoon and a massive obstacle to peace. I don’t believe they send shekels to people who call for the immediate end of the military occupation of the West Bank and the siege of Gaza. I believe the occupation is wrong and the government is wrong for maintaining it.

            See, I can say all that, because I am a private individual. You are a liar and a bigot. I will continue to answer every one of your questions honestly even as you refuse to address any of mine with ostentatious cowardice.

          • Pat Kittle

            I simply asked if you deny the existence of Israel’s “hasbara”:
            — [ https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=hasbara+troll&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-020 ]

            You “guess” you don’t?? You “guess”?? Kind of tough for you to simply admit Israel runs its massive “hasbara” Internet propaganda campaign.

            You try to divert attention to other countries propaganda machines. But none of them are remotely as elaborate as Israel’s — which infests the entire Western world to the extent that despised Gentiles go to prison for merely questioning your “Holocau$t” scripture.

            Until now you’ve given us ZERO reason to think you are NOT hasbara. But now you have — you accurately mock Netanyahu — AND you want Israel out of Gaza & the West Bank, and to stay within its 1948 borders. Right?

            Do you also want the US (& other Western countries) to stop fighting Mideastern wars? Do you want all political prisoners (whose only “crime” is contesting the Zionist version of the “Holocaust”) to be set free? And “reparated” for their undeserved imprisonment?

            If so I will happily acknowledge that you are not “hasbara.”

          • Guilty Feat

            I can’t “admit” to something I have absolutely no personal knowledge of. That’s not how “admitting” works.

            It seems as reasonable to me that such a thing exists in Israel as it would in any other country in the world. Your Jew-hatred tries to make it seem like something sinister. I don’t think it is, but I have zero first-hand knowledge of paid Israel online advocacy.

            Countries like Germany and Israel which have laws criminalizing Holocaust denial are sovereign nations and democracies that are free to enact any legislation they choose. For my part I would not criminalize Holocaust denial. I believe that incitement to racial hatred and racial violence should remain criminal offences and to the extent that Holocaust denial may be part of a cycle of incitement I can see grounds for investigating those who dabble in it. But I don’t believe it should be a criminal offence to say, “I don’t believe the Holocaust happened” anymore than it is to say, “I don’t believe Henry VIII had six wives.” Sharing one’s ignorance with the world in the face of overwhelming historical evidence should be enough of a punishment.

            I believe that Israel should immediately withdraw to the 1949 armistice lines (sometimes called ’67 borders) and negotiate a two-state solution based on these borders and land swaps with reparations paid where appropriate to descendants of land owners in pre-State Palestine.

            Do I want the US to stop fighting Mideastern wars? I want all people to stop fighting all wars. I acknowledge that when you have a madman like Assad mercilessly murdering hundreds of thousands of his own people, the world should take action to stop him. I also acknowledge that the war to remove Saddam Hussein was fought on lies and false information. There is such a thing as a just war, such as the Allied war against fascism in WWII, and the Israeli War of Independence, but such wars are the minority.

            Do I want all political prisoners to be set free? Yes. Do I believe that there are political prisoners whose only crime is contesting the Zionist version of the Holocaust? No. That is nonsense. There are precisely zero political prisoners who have been imprisoned for contesting the Holocaust. Nor is there such a thing as the “Zionist version” of the Holocaust. There is a historical record that has been corroborated by multiple sources and there are some spurious, wannabe historians such as the discredited buffoon, David Irving, who fabricate alternative “facts”. If someone is imprisoned for denying the Holocaust, he is not a political prisoner. He is a daft criminal who knowingly made a false statement which was a criminal offence in the country he was visiting. I have already stated my opinion that Holocaust denial should NOT be a criminal offence, but it IS in some countries and if you’re stupid enough to break the law in those countries, you don’t get to call yourself a “political prisoner”. You’re just an idiot, twice over.

            I’m delighted that you’re finally willing to admit that you’ve been consistently lying about me. Maybe now we can get to grips with your irrational hatred of Jews.

          • Pat Kittle

            Wow, you put a lot of words in that last comment. Now let’s decode it.

            Your hatred of Gentiles (“Gentile hatred”) is built right into your Talmud but I don’t constantly invoke the phrase for dramatic effect. Your obsessive self-pity explains your silly repeating of “Jew hatred.”

            You people have already made it a Catch-22 for a goy like me to factually state that I have Jewish friends. (“Oh, you have Jewish friends, do you? Yeah, we’ve heard THAT one before! Yuk yuk yuk!”)

            Like so many other Jew supremacists, you act like ONLY YOU know the in-depth truth about Israel/Zionism/Judaism. But when confronted with unsavory (& irrefutable) facts, you play dumb.
            :-)
            So, when confronted with massive evidence of Israel’s vast propaganda effort (“hasbara”)…
            — [ https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=hasbara+troll&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-020 ]
            …you merely “guess” it exists, because…

            “I can’t ‘admit’ to something I have absolutely no personal knowledge of. That’s not how ‘admitting’ works.”

            You also “have absolutely no personal knowledge of” the alleged “Holocaust” — therefore, BY YOUR OWN REASONING, you can merely “guess” it existed.

            You call me “bigot.”

            I remind you of a Black man (“schwartze” to you bigots) who provides very compelling insights into the alleged “Holocaust”:

            “Holocaust is an ideological (not historical) phenomenon for the Khazarian Mafia”:
            — [ http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/09/24/holocaust-is-an-ideological-not-historical-phenomenon-for-the-khazarian-mafia/ ]

          • Guilty Feat

            What a load of nonsense. I have already told you I neither hate nor consider myself innately superior to any other human being.

            I addressed a whole bunch of serious points in my email which you failed to acknowledge. You claimed you would admit you were wrong about me being paid, but you were obviously lying about that too.

            Your “knowledge” of the Talmud is horseshit. You don’t read Hebrew, you certainly don’t read Aramaic. You know nothing about the Talmud except what you have read on sites that are dedicated ti inciting racial hatred against Jews. Every single one of your quotes from the Talmud is utterly worthless for any of a number of reasons, but fundamentally because you have no idea how the Talmud is structured and zero understanding of its importance to Jews. I would conservatively suggest that less than 10% of all Jews living today have every studied a single line of the Talmud. The idea that anyone in Israel is guided or motivated by anything that’s written there not least the bullshit mistranslations that you could come up with is farcical.

            Go ask any of your Jewish friends how much Talmud they have learned in their lives and what part the discussions in the Talmud play in their Jewish lives. It’s silly straw man nonsense.

            As for my personal knowledge of the Holocaust, you are absolutely correct, but this is also another daft straw man argument. I have never claimed first hand knowledge of the Holocaust. My belief that the Holocaust took place is based on by study of the works of respected historians, rather than racist kooks and my first hand experience of visiting the camps and talking to eye-witnesses including survivors of the camps, and soldiers that liberated the camps. I have weighed the evidence and the sources of the evidence and thus I believe, along with the overwhelming majority of the civilized world, that the Holocaust took place.

            You have never once met with anyone claiming to be a survivor. You ONLY read work by discredited, racist historians. You believe that Hitler was right, but you don’t believe he did anything about it. You never once question the notion that your opinion is shared by vicious bigots, even as you claim to not be one yourself. You consider your kinship with the KKK and the Neo Nazi movement and other white supremacist groups a mere coincidence. You won’t even entertain the idea that you’re one of the bad guys.

            And before you turn that around, I assure you that’s a notion I wrestle with every day. I truly do wonder if I am on the wrong side of history. Some days I have more doubt than others, but mostly I am comfortable with the fact that if Nazis hate me and consider me vermin, I must be doing something right. You, on the other hand, have never given a moment’s though to the idea that all the most hated and reviled people in the world share your opinions.

            Little Kittle, you promised to acknowledge that you fabricated the idea that I am paid to write here. Was that another of your lies?

            i call you a bigot, because you are a bigot. I do not use the racially charged language that you are desperate to put in my mouth. You are merely projecting your own filthy racist opinions onto others. A sure sign that you actually DO understand what an unpleasant person you are and that you would like to change if you could.

          • Pat Kittle

            You “hasbara” NEVER admit being hasbara!!

            NEVER!!
            — [ https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=hasbara+troll&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-020 ]

            You are exceedingly fortunate I’ve spent this much time debunking your Jew supremacist talking points. Your hasbara superiors can now analyze my rebuttals in their ceaseless efforts to refine their propaganda.

            For this invaluable service I will not charge you a shekel!!
            :-)

            You can now have the last word. Anyone who reads our exchange can draw their own conclusions.

            Try to find the strength to carry on without me.

            Bye bye!

          • Pat Kittle

            “Guilty Feat” is a curious screen name you’ve chosen for yourself, and likely the most honest thing you’ve said.

            And one of Israel’s many guilty feats is pressuring the “Electronic Intifada” (your source regarding Gilad Atzmon) into not questioning your “Holocaust.”

            But even your own source calls your precious innocent little Israel an “apartheid” state!

            “Activists in Vienna protest EU support for Israeli apartheid”:
            — [ https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/activists-vienna-protest-eu-support-israeli-apartheid ]

          • Guilty Feat

            Perhaps you could give a concrete example of anything I have ever written anywhere which displays what you revoltingly term my “Gentile hatred to the world”.

            Of course if you ask me to do he same I can provide numerous examples of you exposing your Jew hatred, but I’m fascinated to hear what about anything I have ever said indicates that I hate any human being. I don’t even hate you, despite your obvious hatred for all Jews. I just feel sorry for you.

    • Guilty Feat

      How do you figure? Hitler’s Final Solution for the Jews resulted in the genocide of 6 million in less than a decade.

      In the 70 years of Israel’s existence, less than 75,000 people have been killed on all sides of the conflict, including enemy combatants and Israeli victims of terror. In global terms, it’s a minor conflict.

      Only monomaniacal Jew haters could imagine Israel’s war crimes are worse than anyone else’s.