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JULY 2020

Syrian Kurds Ask Germany To Impose No-Fly Zone Over Northeastern Syria


Syrian Kurds Ask Germany To Impose No-Fly Zone Over Northeastern Syria

JAGEL, GERMANY – DECEMBER 10: A Bundeswehr Luftwaffe ECR Tornado reconnaissance jet departs for Incirlik airbase in Turkey as part of Germany’s participation in the international military intervention against the Islamic State (IS) (Photo by Sean Gallup/Getty Images)

Germany should establish a no-fly zone over northeastern Syria after the upcoming withdrawal of U.S. troops in order to protect Syrian Kurds from any Turkish attack, Ibrahim Murad, a representative of the self-administration of North and East Syria in Germany, told Kurdistan 24 on January 2.

Murad added that Syrian Kurds are happy with a recent proposal by Roderich Kiesewetter, chair of the German parliament’s Foreign Affairs Committee, which included the establishment of a U.N. authorized no-fly zone over the areas held by the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF).

“The German government should take [the proposal] seriously and we hope that it will use its relationship with the U.S. and others to achieve this,” the Kurdistan 24 news outlet quoted Murad as saying.

The self-administration has been promoting the idea of a no-fly zone over northeastern Syria since the White House announced the decision to withdraw U.S. forces from Syria. Last month, senior officials of the administration visited Paris and asked French officials to help establish the no-fly zone to deter Turkey.

Local observers believe that this idea is unrealistic as both France and Germany are allies of Turkey and cooperate with it in the framework of the NATO. Moreover, Russia will not likely allow the U.N. to adopt any plan that would threaten the territorial integrity and unity of Syria.

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  • John Brown

    I guess Kurdish leaders feel the need to delude their followers while they send the own families to their new mansions and large bank accounts in Switzerland and laugh.

  • Turkish Greywolves

    France didnt work with the noflyzone, now up to begging towards germany, issue is germany is a vassal state of US so the reaction will be the same

    • Jens Holm

      Tureks are Ottomans apart from most of them are only 1 meter. Soon they will use Drackmar and Syruans pounds as currency.

  • skinner15

    The last time the Germans got involved with the Kurds, was when they supplied the gas to Saddam to bomb them with.

    You got to laugh at how history is so FUBAR.

    • Jens Holm

      None should laugh of that many killed not made by Kurds and SDFs but Assads ading it for many years.

      Last year it was 54,7 A DAY. hahahha ????

      • skinner15

        The Germans killed thousands through their good friends, Saddam and Bush the CIA man.
        Assad kills USISISrael proxy forces daily.

      • Gregory Casey

        You Jens are a disgrace to the culture and heritage of the Vikings.
        If you had any integrity at all you’d support a small State, Syria, and her People in their defense of their country, their heritage, their history and their secular society against the ragbag murdering thieving xunts of FUKUS+Saudi+Turkey+Qatar+Israel but sadly, you have none ….. thus how peculiarly offensive you are to the history and culture of the Norse.

        • Bob

          ‘Jens from Denmark’- is a bogus avatar – in previous posts he has variously claimed to be a Bosnian muslim refugee, and yet also a Turkish-Kurdish refugee – so many identities for one life.

          • Gregory Casey

            No harm to punch holes in his paper armour

  • Master Oroko

    Seriously? You can’t make this shit up.

    At the end of the day, the Kurds have it good with Syria and (I know I’ll get flack for saying this) Turkey. They don’t need their own state. Everything else is just identity politics taken to the nth degree. And organizations like the YPG do not represent all Kurds.

    • John Whitehot

      I think Turkey’s redline is to have armed Kurds at their borders, no matter if in a country of their own or in another.

      So – if Kurds accept to be reabsorbed into Syria, lay down arms and give control to the Syrian Army, they are going to survive.

      It’s not much difficult than that.

      • Jens Holm

        Tha same as usual. Enemy talk of the worst evil kind just being sheep.

    • Barba_Papa

      Interestingly enough, identity politics zealots LOVE the YPG due to their Marxist/Feminist agenda. I was in my local SJW temple a couple of years ago and the place was full of YPG posters and stickers. Saw quite a few more of them all over town when the Turks invaded Afrin.

      • Master Oroko

        The YPG are terrorists. I don’t like the Turks, but I don’t like the YPG even less. They’re as bad as they come, even worse than ISIS in some estimations.

        • Jens Holm

          As usual no substance like using alcohol make chinese, westerns and russians drunk and unproductive all the time, and swine make You not go to heaven.

          No wonder swines prefare not to live among muslims, if You are a representative of them. Oink Oink.

          • Master Oroko

            I don’t get it.

      • Jens Holm

        Yeerrh, old men i long beards should run the world and as in most parts of Islam not even give the rights for womens transmitted by Muhammed.

        You even name it as feminisme, but it is MALE CHAUVINISME of the worst kind. You are afraid.

        Western women are just as clever as men. Yours are not, because You keep them even more low then You.

        • Barba_Papa

          So in addition to spouting pro Empire bullshit you’re also a cuck? That explains a lot. You have my sympathy.

      • Zionism = EVIL
    • Jens Holm

      YPG+J never said theu represent all Kurds as well as having an own Sate in Syria but more local influence of normal kind for the rest of the world.

      • Master Oroko

        They’re a Syrian branch of the PKK and deserve to be treated as such.

  • Turkish Greywolves

    All of them are going to die.

  • World_Eye

    Hah Germany hah LOL.LMAO.

  • jako

    And how is German Bundeswehr suppose to “impose” that non-fly zone?!?

    With few old Tornado bomber jets flying from Incirlik -Turkey (to stop Turk F-16) ?!?
    They should better take option of illegal rape-fuges to Germany while that old hag Angela is still in charge…

    • John Whitehot

      from what i get from the article, they asked Germany to ask the US.

      like “those yanks aren’t listening to us, perhaps they’ll listen to you”. Yeah sure.

      This happens when you get in bed with those that have made treachery their only way of doing things, the Kurds should have known better from the start.

      • jako

        Common man you know better than that…Yes, I’ve seen all their insane drivel.
        The idea is totally absurd and retarded !
        If… U.S. is tactically leaving from Syria to Iraq.
        To gain favor from Turkey, to mediate with Turks their differences.
        Why would they suddenly opt for ANTI-Turk “non-fly zone”?!?
        And aggravate mutual conflict of interest with the Turks into the shooting war?!?
        WTF…NATO “non-fly zone” against another NATO country?!?

        And even if so to do it HOW?!?
        How would they execute that?!
        Putting that in practice would take to fly over cargo planes with quite few Patriots from Europe to Incirlik and than move all that to Syria which is simply impossible.

        • Jens Holm

          Its USA, which keep Turkey as member of Nato. Most members of EU dont want turks in any improved relations since Erdopedia took over.

      • Jens Holm

        Yes, of course its asking an important member of Nato to organize.

        • John Whitehot

          they say:

          asking is always licit.

          answering is courtesy.

      • PZIVJ

        “and we hope that it will use its relationship with the U.S. and others to achieve this”
        Erdogan may be distracted by what is happening in Idliib.
        Doubt Turkey will make a move into NE Syria at this time.
        Need to paint Manbij area red first. :)

    • Jens Holm

      Well, I assume they are asked for being Leaders of the coalision there.

      By thats You could as a start in Your useless calculation add France and Great Brittain.

      If Your carrot below is just as big as You mouth, You probatly cant come around corners in even big streets even amputed justr after birth to camouflage You among jews.

  • hhabana

    Turkey, Iraq, Iran and Syria: time to clean house and end this Kurdish nonsense.

  • Vas

    With what airforce? lol Most of German fighters are grounded(mainly from lack of maintenance), very few are operational, I doubt if Germany can even impose a no-fly zone in its own borders.

    • Jens Holm

      If they can use the rest of the coalision having France and GB in it, its not so bad.

  • Rob

    Any uninvited forces in Syria are parasites and growing on the Syrian nation blood and flesh.

    • Jens Holm

      There is no Nation. Its private proporty by Assads like USSR was own by Cremlin¨and now Oligarks.

      • Rob

        Israeli terrorists are parasites.

  • Ich Bins

    Aaaaahahahahaaaa! Germany??? Ich bepisse mich vor lachen! Poor Germany is a colony since 1945 and a military midget, not to mention the state of her Bundeswehr. Germany cannot even keep the situation under control inside her own territory flooded since 2015 (and before) with the worst scum the Middle East, Africa and Central Asia have to offer… and the Kurds want them to establish a No-Fly-Zone in Syria… Seriously? Are they totally nuts?

    • Promitheas Apollonious

      desperate is a better world and I am talking about the west nato forces and not the kurds, They (kurds) are just the whores, in the whole situation

    • Jens Holm

      Seemes like You are a PEE NUT Yourself.

  • wwinsti

    Wow, scraping the bottom of the barrel with that one. I guess everyone with a decent airforce said no?

    • Jens Holm

      They dont give up.

  • Asking *germany* 🙂🙃🙂🙃🙂 …
    what is Next?
    The kurds organizing a dance of witchman to get rain or a no fly zone, whatever comes first 🙂🙃🙂🙃🙂

    • Jens Holm

      Well, its like lottery. Even if You buy only one coupon, You have a chance. If adviced by You buying none = 0.

      Thats why so many poor people play Lotto and are given hope – even tha chasnce is 0,0000000000001.

  • Rob

    Massive data leak targets German officials including Angela Merkel.

    Hip hip hurray.

  • verner

    I thought germany ended the use of the turkish base so question is from where the no fly zone should be operated. and second of all, germany won’t touch syria with a barge pole if its life depended on it so it’s a non starter (as diana said).

    • Jens Holm

      They could use Cyprus as well as Iraq as well as helicopters and missiles.

  • cliff

    The Kurds are desperate dogs who’s running left and right with its tail between its legs and seeking a bones. The dog is so blind it fail to realize the only true partner it have is the Syrian government . Bunch of losers.

    • jorge

      Correction, some Kurds, or these kind of Kurds, like this Murad.

      • Jens Holm

        Thats right. SDF kurds are of their own kind – or almost

        • PARKS CURTIS

          sunni marxists

    • Jens Holm

      As ususal just enemy talk.

    • Zionism = EVIL

      Kurds are treacherous bastards historically. They always side with the losing side and then expect to be bailed out. Germany is hardly a military power and an occupied vassal state of Americunts and is hardly in a position to do anything but lick Americunt arse. The Kurds should buy a map instead and see how hopeless their position is.

      • cliff

        They are in a hopeless geographic position and yet they insist on disregard the hands that had take them and treatment of equal status.

  • John

    Desperate people say and do anything.

    • jako

      Stupid & desperate people even more than that.

  • Barba_Papa

    I thought the Germans barely even have a Luftwaffe anymore. Most aircraft are just unable for deployment due to lack of spare parts. And of course funding. To quote from The Right Stuff, funding makes the rockets go up. And the Germans have not really been funding their armed forces for decades now. Just throw them a couple of billions now to appease The Donald is not going to magically reverse a decades old downward trend.

  • kraaiiii

    when the ”red line’ was crossed in Syria there wasn’t a ”no-fly zone” established, the think the can have one now because of Turkey a NATO country ? idiots.

    As long as the Kurds don’t distance themself of the PKK there always be animosity between turkey and the Kurds.

  • Xoli Xoli

    Mr Rob made very good statement.USA forces are parasites their grow on Muslim blood.So Kurdish are real bad bugs sucking arab and Muslim blood for their special existent on expens of Syrians,Turkish,Iranians and Iraqis to be exploit and serve as traitors for USA,France,Britain’s and Germany.Nato is global oil and gas thefts.Nato has steal almost all minerals, raw,material and other resources from Africa.Nato countries existant is base on suffering of blacks and Muslims Arab nations.Nato is human blood suckers.

    • jako

      The U.S. construct and main U.S. foreign policy till recently= “War on Terror” is 20 years old!!!
      Terror=Muslims (created by U.S. & Israel)

      If that Rob’s statement was “good statement” than it is 20 years late….

  • Rodney Loder

    Angela Merkel is only interested in saving herself from the refugee issue which is falling on Merkel like the wall fell on the Soviet Union, she’ll be flatter than the plastic bucket she resembles after an elephant used it for a Circus balancing routine, so how can Merkel provide security for the Kurds? .

    What the Kurds need to do, is to genuinely reach out to Brother Erdogan, and prey to Allah with us.

    Allah Akbar.

  • Tudor Miron

    They should also ask Zimbabve and Kongo (no disrespect intended) to impose that no-fly zone. That would help a lot. Desperate traytor is a miserable site.

  • jako

    Angela Merkel can declare only “non fly zone” over herself – when bathing naked.
    That is the only “non fly zone” that Germany can impose on the rest of the world and only one that would be respected by everybody..

    • StraitlacedMissouri

      OMG that is great!!! 😂😂😂

  • Prince Teutonic

    If Germans refuse who will they beg next? Ozzies!?

  • alejoeisabel

    Kurds have two choices. Vassals of Israel or fraternity with Syria. It was the Anglo/French who created this condition of non state for the Kurds, now they want their support for independence, and all they get is the sting of a dagger in the back……..AGAIN.

  • Xoli Xoli

    Kurds must distance themselves from USA NATO if their want to be integrated among muslims society.Dont bite the hands which is feeding you and try to associate yourself with NATO who instigate you to hate the people who accommodates you.After ww1 and ww2 NATO is still create wars for their economies existant with lots of lies and hidden agendas.

  • Dick Von Dast’Ard

    Those Kurds must have a sense of humor after all.
    More like the Turks would impose a no fly zone over central Europe.
    Perhaps they are actually talking about needing more fly spray to deal with house flies?

  • Ronald

    Yes, time for Syria to declare that all of Syria is a no fly zone.

    • Feudalism Victory

      It would be the logical action.

  • Nosferatu

    Well right now kurds could even ask Germany to impose no fly zone over Munich and Germany would not be able to do it. BTW there is probably more Kurds in Germany than men in German army…

  • Tom Tom

    What, all four of their planes?

    • Feudalism Victory

      Right they couldnt impose a no fly zone above berlin.

  • Carol Davidek-Waller

    Target practice for the new Syrian S 300 and S 400 defense systems. The Kurds are only a loosely consolidated group around one of several strong men, not a nation. Turkey will never tolerate a Kurdish state on their borders. A small landlocked state pumping Syrian oil has no chance of survival.

    • Promitheas Apollonious

      unless of course they sell it to the turks and zio/american partners, for a fraction of the cost, as they did before.

      • Sinbad2

        It was ISIS that was selling the oil, and they sold it to Israel via Turkey. Turkey got a cut of the action, and only a fool would get in the way of the United States of ISIS and Israel whilst they were pillaging.

        • Promitheas Apollonious

          no they have not, they sold it to europe and american interest using greek partners among the ship owners. It is a common secret around here what is been happening those days. You get educated and think you know from the net and any jerking off any one says here and else where. That is obvious to me reading many things you folks are saying. Ignorance of fact or denial of it in this case is not an excuse.

  • Willing Conscience (The Truths

    The Germans can’t offend the Turks with a no fly zone, only the French have the political ability to enforce a no fly zone on the Turks and weather the ensuing storm, something even the US probably couldn’t do.
    A classic good cop bad cop routine, the French will play the bad cop, and the Germans will play the good cop, and they’ll both play Erdogan for the fool he is. The Germans will get involved but only on a political level, they’ll become the new buffer between EU/French resolutions over the Kurdish problem, and help dissipate any heat the French get from Erdogan while they’re trying to protect the Kurds from Erdogan.

    • Bigaess Wangmane

      The French couldn’t establish a no-fly zone over Paris, much less. They’ll leave the day after the US does.

      • Willing Conscience (The Truths

        The French do have the ability to set up a no fly zone, and will do so if they have to, and they won’t leave the day after the US leave either, they’ll stay for the long haul.
        You should read a lot more news buddy, you’re not keeping up with current events.

  • Sinbad2

    Germany is the perfect country to enforce a no fly zone, because they don’t have any planes that fly.

  • Brian Michael Bo Pedersen

    Well, Russia have the Nordstream and the gas proces as a bargain tool for Germany to stay on the ground

  • antoun

    ahahah !!! remenber lutffawe in syria based in alep at 1941 shelling irak!!

  • Jim Bim

    LOL……the Kurds are complete idiots. Germany is in no way to establish a no fly zone on its own……anywhere.

  • Barbar

    Next on begging list: Greece, Ecuador, Micronesia.