Syrian Army Fully Repels ISIS Attack And Recaptures All Positions In Euphrates Valley

I see……Anyway, as you will agree with me – put aside my sarcasm earlier on – what is often forgotten, in and outside your kingdom – is that the UK is one of the world’s superpowers (in all sense – militarily – in the UNSC etc )…..The stance the UK takes on geopolitics/on global issues is therefore very consequential…..It is important that you get your act together and the house in order – not to blindly follow (us)the USA – especially with the likes of Donald at the helm…..

There is no chance of them getting their act together, at least not until muslems achive some kind of critical mass. It will take them a couple of decades for that.

Marx of course agitated for political change to include the working classes in the mid to late 19th century. However his thoughts have been the basis for much of the debasement of traditional values that we see today .
whether he would have agreed with that is a moot point . He desired change from the servitude to the rich, which arguably is where much of the world is today.
As always though the ideas of true revolutionary thought are often hijacked by venal men and women who seek to enslave the minds via the creation of a cult. A cult that primarily serves to empower and enrich the creators, which in a perverse way is a form of capitalism :)

Ottomans started with other Muslims if you didn’t know, more than a century before they set foot in Europe and continued to attack other Muslims to their very end. They attacked Iran from 15th to 20th century. They didn’t discriminate at all.

Ottomans… Should Muslims name Guy de Lusignan as the proof for all Christians’ intolerance?

I didn’t accuse any other religion.
Almost all religions, cultures and civilizations have blood on their hands. In your examples, Ottomans didn’t attack Europe because they were Muslims and Europe was Christian, they did it because they were expansionists and their whole economy was based on looting, they didn’t care about their victims’ religions and it’s apparent because they first attacked Sunni Muslim lands (Levant and northern Africa), then Shi’a lands (Iran) and then Christians (Orthodox in northwestern Iran and Armenia, Greece and Catholic kingdoms). If there was no war for a few years their army would riot and even kill the Sultan which was not interested in war).
Serbs and Magyars weren’t the only ones under Ottomans’ constant attacks but unfortunately for them, whenever Ottomans couldn’t invade Iran they turned their attention to west.
You wrote it correctly. Religion was and is a tool in the rulers’ hands and they justify their actions with it.

I doubt if I participated in the battle in the former Yugoslavia. If I have to choose, I would probably shoot the ones who attacked me first and attempted to kill me and my loved ones, regardless of their religion. The exact same thing which we did when Iraq attacked us.

What I said about the older times, more than 40 years ago is the truth. If you’re not old enough to see those days please ask the people who lived then. We weren’t identified by religion then but by nationality, Arab or Iranian, unlike today which when people notice someone is a Muslim their interaction automatically will change. Tha’s the gift which the US and Saudis gave all the Muslims.

My example about Guy was meant to confirm we too shouldn’t and can’t count all Christians like Crusaders. They used religion for other goals, from looting to taking Italian boys as slaves 800 years ago. Not really related to a modern day Serb or Irish.
Sorry my reply got too long. I hope you could read it all. Thanks.

You know it’s just limited to Abrahamic religions, it’s almost all religions. Just take a look at Hinduism and the way their believers treat others when they have the upper hand.
The things you mentioned is the direct result of being the neighbours of an entity named the Ottoman empire. We too have our share of their attacks. Considering Iran never had a permanent army, it’s almost a miracle various dinasties managed to push them back.

I know a few people here who stock in the past and hate Arabs for Iran’s conversion to Islam 14 centuries ago. So Serbs are just like them, seeing the world through the hardship Ottomans imposed on them centuries ago? And they blame all Muslims for Ottomans’ actions? I don’t know what to say to that. This hatred is not going to fade away, is it?

That’s not what happened in Iran which preserved it’s language, traditions and culture and changed their religion which became so corrupt (or in fact as you wrote, it’s religious institute became so oppressing and corrupt) in it’s last days that it didn’t let the ordinary people to breath (for example according to Sassanid religious laws, sons must follow their father’s occupation and nobody except a few allowed to learn to read and write. Penalty? Death).
They’re stuck in the past, believe me. They do nothing except whining and stirring hatred against a whole lot of countries, millions of people, based on what they think happened 1400 years ago.

Whenever and wherever religious institutes gain unchecked power over people’s life and death it becomes a monster.

Excuse me, I’m a bit confused here. This whole argument started because I stated that a few decades ago, there was no religious problems like today and this whole mess of extremist and terrorist “Islamic” groups is a product of US policies and Wahhabism, and you replied with giving an example of Ottomans which if I understand correctly, meant to show the Muslims’ intolerance.
Do I understand correctly that “Ottoman culture” is a local phenomenon in the Balkans and Serbs only hate (or dislike if it’s not the right word) Turks because of what they did and hold no hatred or grudge against other Muslims?

I think not only in Iran, but in the rest of the world we didn’t have the extremism phenomenon. It’s an artificial problem which didn’t exist before the young US created it.
Religious tolerance is the direct result of the ruler’s tolerance because religion was always a tool in the rulers’ hands, just like nationalism.

Maybe both, maybe neither.

Are you pulling my poor leg?