Syria War Report – October 19, 2017: U.S. Blames Assad For ‘Hindering’ Its Anti-ISIS Efforts

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The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and ISIS are still fighting for the city of al-Qaryatayn in the province of Homs. On October 18, the SAA retook the railway station north of it. On October 17, ISIS claimed that 20 SAA members were killed in clashes in the city’s vicinity.

According to local sources, the SAA has still not started a direct storm of the city because ISIS uses local civilians as human shields.

In Deir Ezzor province, the SAA has advanced against north of the provincial capital, on the eastern bank of the Euphrates. According to pro-government sources, all villages there are now under control of government troops. However, these reports still have to be confirmed by photos or videos.

On October 18, the Republican Guard’s Gen Issam Zahreddine was killed in an IED explosion during the operation against ISIS in Saqr Island northeast of Deir Ezzor city. Zahreddine was one of the most prominent Syrian generals and a hero of the battle for Deir Ezzor. He had been leading government troops defending the city from ISIS terrorists over the past years. Under his command, local government troops kept control over the military airbase and a part of the urban area until the unblocking force reached the city and broke the ISIS siege in September 2017.

On the same day, White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee accused the Syrian-Iranian-Russian alliance of hindering efforts of the US-led coalition against ISIS during the battle for Raqqa city.

“This eminent victory by the global coalition and our brave servicemembers comes at a high cost, particularly to the Syrian Democratic Forces who suffered many casualties as they fought to liberate their own country from the oppression of ISIS,” she said adding that “Unfortunately, the Syrian regime and its supporters hinder the efforts to liberate Raqqa. Instead of focusing on fighting ISIS, the pro-regime forces attacked our partners and attempted to block them from liberating the Syrian people from the brutality of ISIS.“

Huckabee also added that the US remains “committed to supporting stabilization efforts and local security forces in liberated areas through a political transition in Syria.”

During the Obama administration, the words “political transition” meant that the US is seeking to overthrow Assad and to enforce the rule of the “moderate opposition” [accidentally linked to al-Qaeda] in Damascus. Right now, it is not clear what the Trump administration means when it uses these words.

Meanwhile, the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) media wing announced that the US Special Envoy for the US-led coalition Brett McGurk claimed during a meeting with the SDF-linked Raqqa Civil Council that the “Syrian regime will never have a foothold in Raqqa.”
The American rhetoric definitely show that Washington is going to use the SDF and the SDF-held area as a foothold for own diplomatic and, in the worst-case scenario, military actions in the expected standoff against the Damascus government and its allies in post-ISIS Syria.

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  • FlorianGeyer

    The Alice in Wonderland fantasy that the US and Coalition exist in gets more surreal every minute of every day.
    This is dangerous and welcome at the same time as the US Empire has only one way to go and that is a collapse .
    Without and within.

    • martin campbell

      Yes it’s bad news but one hopes at least it rebounds on them badly. But horrible for Syria.
      It is surreal but it has been surreal since 9/11 at least, so doesn’t that make it real Florian?
      The fact that they talk complete rubbish the entire time has not stopped anything yet. If you have the worlds biggest armed forces by miles you can decide what to do and then talk utter rubbish very loudly without drawing breath forever and a day until your armed forces are not enough. Which is not about to happen?
      If you consider fictional superpowers in movies don’t they talk rubbish the whole time too? So maybe it is normal reality and not a reason to get hopes up?
      For us punters, the war is in the media. Maybe we should write letters frequently to mainstream newspapers putting counter narratives. When enough newspapers and TV news call it a load of old cobblers is when things can change…I propose.
      Having said all that, the War on Statues in the USA is an interesting development. And The weird preoccupation with sex and gender stuff is typical sign of a degenerate society. And tons of things. What we need now is an unlawful Independence referendum in Puerto Rico making newspaper headlines around the globe.

      • Ronald

        “The war is in the media” , you hit it right there .
        Lavrov and Assad must become as quick as jet fighters refuting their crap , otherwise the “public” will never even have a clue that the reverse is true .

      • FlorianGeyer

        “For us punters, the war is in the media.”
        For millions of those Today suffering the reality of conflict, the war is in their homes now. The West is not exempt from this horror and if current events spiral out of control , that could happen very quickly if cool heads do not prevail.

        • martin campbell

          Turkey. Very vulnerable in several ways. Could spiral? I would prefer the UK not to be in a political union with the countries that spiral.
          Re Cool Heads-
          Robin Cook as Foreign Secretary to Tony Blair rose in the Commons in the Iraq War debate and said Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction as commonly understood by those words.
          Hard to think of a more authoritative denunciation. The bloody foreign secretary. The exact person.
          Oddly enough he didn’t live long.
          Sometimes I think I am mad. If it turned out the people responsible really are shape shifting reptiles that might be less cognitive dissonance for me.
          It would explain the unusual wrinkles on Hillary Rodhams face too.

          • FlorianGeyer

            It has always been so I think BUT the internet has given those with differing opinions a platform with people all over the globe in seconds. Those of us who wish to be are better informed that ever, especially with on line translation tools.
            Real News in real time is at our fingertips and all governments of the world fear this. Just as the Church in Europe feared the advent of the printing press.
            The Church lost :)

  • andy l

    The US is having a laugh arent they!! hindering the fight against Isis – they have been doing that for 6 years, with allegations of airlifting Isis leaders out of territory, blocking SAA advances by imposing exclusion zones around their bases such as Al Tanf, shooting down SAA jets & bombing Syrian soldiers at Der Ezzor last year only for Isis to take advantage & advance. There are also claims that the US allow Isis to operate freely from their zones all very cosy. Yeah we know who is really fighting the takfiris & it aint the US

    • Freespirit

      Why is the ALTERNATIVE MEDIA ignoring these 2 VERY IMPORTANT AND recently released stories:

      WHO have the REAL HATE symbols: http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=1241

      “Ashkenazi” is he ROOT of the “word” NAZI as I have been saying for over a year, much to the fear and chagrin of Zionist scum who want people to believe the PROPAGANDA that it came from the German “National Socialist Party”: https://www.rt.com/uk/407061-neo-nazi-gay-jewish/

      Not-with-standing the latest deal whereby Israel is being given a BUFFER
      Zone, in Syria AGAINST Iran, It seems Putin cannot be depended on also against the UNITED STATES: https://youtu.be/0CSAS9K9e2A

      It seems Russia, by its INACTION against U.S. and Israel has been and IS giving in ( surrendering?) to the ENEMY – ZIONISM and

      Could the ALTERNATIVE MEDIA be completely controlled now or just AFRAID of repercussions if they speakithe Real TRUTH -ZIONIST Ashkenazi Jews are the world’s PROBLEM ?

      • You can call me Al

        The first priority is to clear ISIS and take back the oil fields. The we shall see what the SAA and Russians do.

        • Freespirit

          Al, I personally believe from my reading and research since the late 1960’s, ( I’m 77) they have already proven what they will do-NOTHING

          There has not been one improvement in our Lives, Liberties and Property rights since I have been in this fight…..in FACT the CONTRARY has always happened

          Israel and their “Royal” buddies, like the House of Windsor and the Vatican will be allowed to RULE even MORE than before……THANKS to technology.

          I wish I could see any evidence proving me wrong

          • You can call me Al

            I don’t think I disagreed before.

            In you excellent comment above, I disagree with one thing and one thing only:

            You state “Israel (House of Rothschild) and their “Royal” buddies, like the House of Windsor and the Vatican will be allowed to RULE even MORE than before”……

            Firstly I do not believe that Israel has any big alliance with, what you call the “House of Rothschild” although all parties are Jews and one ARE ZIONISTS.

            I believe the Monarchy of Europe with maybe the House of Windsor as the figurehead runs the show including the Rothschilds.

            Israel and the US can be taken down at any time and since the US seems to have gone rogue, they will be.

            I am unsure of the Vatican’s role in the future, maybe you are correct, but I personally doubt it.

            Anyway my view only; thanks for the conversation, I enjoyed it thoroughly.

            PS Keep it up, 80 next then 90….. get in there.

            My view only, cheers.

          • Freespirit

            Hey, we can’t agree with every dotted I or crossed T :-)

          • You can call me Al

            Strange that, I actually have read at least one of those.

            On a side issue, have you seen this ?.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb_IZVwxw0M

            I might need to apologise to you when I finish watching this – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcD81WHkCsE

          • Freespirit

            John Pilger is a real REBEL………for TRUTH

            thanks for those links, “Al”

    • Kira Binkley

      They won’t be laughing for long. Remember, he who laughs last laughs best.

  • FlorianGeyer

    @ Southfront.
    You may wish to amend the spelling of your headline. ” Blaiming Assad “.
    ———————————————————————————————————-
    ‘blame’

    verb
    feel or declare that (someone or something) is responsible for a fault or wrong:
    synonyms: hold responsible, hold accountable, hold liable; More
    noun
    responsibility for a fault or wrong:
    synonyms: responsibility, guilt, accountability, liability, onus; More
    Powered by OxfordDictionaries · © Oxford University Press

    Past Continuous
    ————————
    I was blaming
    you were blaming
    he/she/it was blaming
    we were blaming
    you were blaming
    they were blaming

    • EL ZORRO

      This is NO a school, this is an INTERNATIONAL FORUN, no body care about spelling because most of the participants does NOT HAVE ENGLISH as their primary language. If you don’t like what you read, go to the FAKE NEWS LIARS, they are highly proficient in BULL SHIT with not spelling errors.

      • FlorianGeyer

        Poor spelling in any language is not really acceptable in the media. I accept that you are not fluent in English as I am not fluent in Spanish.

        I regard South Front very highly and do not want the organisation to be ridiculed by the MSM as being amateur in any way. Part of that is supporting correct language skills.

        • martin campbell

          Yes. Perhaps your original post went too far. I have sympathy for both views.

          • FlorianGeyer

            My original post was to explain clearly the spelling error with the aid of the Oxford dictionary rather than my opinion only.

          • Rex drabble

            Dont be be a wanker

          • FlorianGeyer

            Your words are an indication of your poor education Rex.

          • Lex

            Pedantic prat.

          • FlorianGeyer

            I rest my case.

    • Thank you for pointing out this typo. The pic is already removed.

      • martin campbell

        Vindicated, Florian!

  • Nigel Maund

    The US are just serial liars and have consistently funded, trained and armed ISIS and other virtually identical Proxy Army terrorist groups for decades. Of course this comes naturally to the US Government as they are terrorists themselves having planned and executed 911 and Las Vegas against their own citizens let alone murdering millions of innocent people across the world over the last 75 years! Does anyone but a total airhead believe anything the US Government says – No I rather think not!

  • Simon Gould

    You have to seriously question the sanity of the Yank political class. A child would realise that they won’t be able to use a foothold in Raqqa, or the so-called SDF, to topple President Assad. I note that the language has stayed the same – Assad regime, political transition etc.- but I think they don’t have a clue what to do next. Raqqa will be in government hands before the end of the year, if not sooner.

    • Ronald

      I smell treachery on their part , the story that they are going to have the SDF give oil facilities to the Assad government is most out of character . Maybe just a false narrative so that SAA slows down their reach for the Omam fields , and they fly in and “plant the flag” .

  • General Surena

    THE USA and İSRAHELL also THE KURDS will be the “”biggest losers”” in this war..
    wait for it..

  • Cobras

    What the US gonna do? use their F-35s… xD

    • 1eeripsa

      Too many birds around = No-fly-zone for F-35s. Ask the Israelis!

  • 1eeripsa

    It´s a little bit more than a year since US and other NATO countries attacked SAA at Deir ez Zur and killed 80 SAA and helped ISIS to gain terrain. Shut up ! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4ab9dd8d174f26b3b8dd58c0adaeb210c51b17ee57e14536500649561f60057e.png

  • EL ZORRO

    “White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee accused the Syrian-Iranian-Russian alliance of hindering efforts of the US-led coalition against ISIS during the battle for Raqqa city”…TRANSLATION…White House Press Secretary accuse the Syrian-Iranian- Russian alliance of DESTROYING the UNITED STATES TERRORIST COALITION OF I.S.I.S and FDS invading the SOVEREIGN SYRIAN NATION.

  • Rob

    In fact the war in Syria is not a civil war or civil uprising actually this is the war between Syria And America. Second Israel doing war against Russia and Middle East countries by putting gun on America shoulder and targetting Syria, Iraq, Iran and Russia.

  • Rob

    America should have to correct their direction and should have to avoid all kind of terrorists organizations including Israeli refugees, FSA, ISIS, Al-Qaeda and be allied with true nations.

  • Rob

    US preparing a new chemical attack in Syria.

  • Deo Cass

    Nicky Haly spoke clearly what it means: Regime change. Quote. ;” We will not be happy until Assad is in power.”

  • martin campbell

    I am sad to read that stuff. What USA are there for with no ISIS left and public relations campaign so damaged by time and events gets even harder to explain but that never stops anything. But if they do say and make trouble there is a risk of a PR disaster if they lose control of the narrative.

    What I wonder is how does USA v Syria which is potentially winding down, fit in with USA v Iran which is getting very noisy indeed. Will they be ‘defeated’ in Syria but turn on Iran? Or take on both plus being in action in Iraq? If Iran is the absolute worst how come they have attacked Iraq and Syria first?

    I also wonder what is to happen in Idlib later where apparently most of Syrian Govt enemies get to retreat to?

    I also cannot understand why Turkey would have been heavily involved in destabilising Syria earlier in the war as reported in various places, as one might imagine a Turkish Governemnt meeting on the matter concluding it would be terrible for Turkey and offering President Assad assistance
    . Having a war next door is not great for business etc.
    Al Quaeda and ISIS get to penetrate Turkey. And more battle hardened better armed Kurdish armies spring up on Turkeys border which must be the absolute worst news for Turkey.

    The best answer I have for myself is Erdogan is a dangerous and erratic crackpot who cannot look after Turkey in any way shape or form

    Any informed answers to any part of my questions?

    • Ronald

      “A PR disaster if they loose control of the narrative ” , that is what happened in Vietnam , in 68 the news reached the American public that there was supposed to be an election in 58 , and so the hippies said “Hell No , We Won’t Go !” . That was back when there was a free press, Bush Senior made sure that never happened again .
      Turkey has made a fortune in this American war against Syria . All the oil stolen from Iraq and Syria was sold to the Iraqi Kurds (Bazari), shipped to Turkey and sold by Erdogan’s son . All of the Syrian manufacturing equipment in Aleppo was stripped and sold to Turkey . Saudi Arabia is banking this war for the US , and is the home of Wahhabi Sunni Islam , Turkey is Sunni , and Erdogan used that to milk more money from both the US and Saudi by allowing “rebel jihadists ” to train and access Syria / Iraq from Turkey . Saudi , Israel, and the US ( the money )as opposed to an out of date army . He made his logical bet on the money , but forgot to consider the will of the people .
      Iran is the key to gaining access to Russia and mineral wealth untold and untouched , the problem is , like the Russians , they are completely literate and very well educated . Saddam even using chemical weapons , could not beat them .
      Erdogan is just another sleezy politician only in it for the dough .

      • martin campbell

        OK.
        it won’t look so clever when more and more of the violence is inside Turkey, but the Erdogan gang will still have the millions from the oil and loads of bodyguards. I guess it adds up Ron.
        First time I saw Erdogan making a campaign speech, on the telly, I was horrified. Thought he belonged in an asylum.

        • Ronald

          The man is confused and made multiple errors to say the least , but we say that without any real knowledge of Turkish politics . However I tend to agree .
          Turkey has a common border with Iran , so if the US can find a reason to station troops there ( especially the eastern Kurdish area ) , they have one more “attack position” if they decide to risk Israel , and attack Iran .
          Regardless of lives lost Israel US / UK , seem intent on total conquest , if they can take out Iran , then Russia , China .
          Iran will not go down without leveling Israel , if that happens we are all gone.

  • Kira Binkley

    What U.S. anti-ISIS efforts?

  • Tito

    S. Huckabee would do quite well in a Nazi state. What an ugly chick.

  • gustavo

    What are Syria´-hezbolah-Iran-Russia ground troops and aerspace Russian force waiting to cross Euphrates river and get Omar oil field ? to be blocked by SDF in order to have a justification of unable to go north and northeast ? I do not kno whether to not to qualify this very slow advance as a bad tactic, stupidity, or pre agreement SAA(Russia)-SDF. What is your opinion ?

  • RichardD

    Humanity’s “terrorism” problem isn’t going to get corrected until the Jews in power using it to advance their Jew world order hegemony drive are removed. The solution to humanity’s Jew pedophile rape cult problem, raping 1,000 children every week, is Jew eradication by outlawing it to create a Jew free future:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c0512630318de811060111edb704a84b72280192343601fdc2f3f02ae00126d7.png

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country

  • terry lunga

    What a scm these Yankees are! Shame for meddling in other countries and supporting thugs and militias.

  • RichardD
  • Deo Cass

    ‘Reverse narrative’ again. The opposite is true. It is the illegal US/Zionist invasion and occupation terror coaltion which is obstructing the Syrian government from reclaiming its own territory which is its fundamental right. They did this when tge Syrian government firces were advancing towards Raqqa city, by attacking the Syrian government forces and shooting down one of its planes. It again obstructed the Syrian government forces from reclaiming their oil and gas fields on the Eastern banks of the Euphrates river by blocking the Syrian government forces way and assassinating in two airstrikes the Russian general Valery Asapov and Syrian government army general Issam Zahreddine respectively.

  • Mountains

    This is BS. they absolutely love Assad.

  • Langaniso Mhlobo

    USA is right Russia,Assad and Allies were truely hindering USA/NATO and moderate,so call free to terrorist and sabotage syrian army terrorist to take over Syria.Russia,Syria,Iran and Hezbollah keep on hindering them to make sure USA is not stealing oil and gas and airlifting terrorist plus not to attack SAA.

    • Kira Binkley

      People are laughing at you. Did you know that?

  • Jens Holm

    If Jews are so powerfull being so few and You will beat them, You have no chance unless You change.

    The big problem is Your sytems are not allowed to change by culture as well as religion.

    What I see below is 1001 nights of bad excuses for not changing Yourself.

    • Jens Holm

      Thats how it should look according to Your way of behaving. Many small emirates, where the Emirs can see all corners.

      You dont understand westerns, because You not even have a language and vocabulary for it. You even laugh if women should be equal to You. And OH YES, THEY ARE MORE NON CLEVER THEN YOU. But thats because You keep them there hard by Your outdated laws incl Sharia.

      And what is it for. Well if men dont own girls and men, they would be in the bottom of the system. In those matters women are much tuffer multitaskers, which You need very much.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/70303aa4641b668ea862bda2169c2a52311e2e02afde2e39cea00cf835643c0d.jpg

      • You can call me Al

        You do realise you are arguing against yourself hey ?

  • r0b1n

    US idiots :-DDD

  • Bill Rood

    LOL. How dare the axis of resistance cross the Euphrates to take oil fields from ISIS, forcing the SDF to divert manpower from Raqqa into Deir ez-Zor, thereby hindering our efforts to liberate that city?

    • Kira Binkley

      Look at it this way: (the correct way)
      1. ISIS held the Omar Oil Fields, keeping the Kurds out of there, until the SAA could get there.
      2. For six years, the U.S. has interfered with President Assad’s fight against terrorism (and militants), and now the orange Pipsqueak in the White House is claiming Assad is at fault? What a crock!
      3. In late summer 2015, both myself (KiraSeer) and President Assad requested the intervention of Putin and the Russian Federation, because time was running out, and Syria was becoming shattered, with militants and terrorists gaining footholds. (Go to One Political Plaza, and look up all topics created by CarolSeer2016/KiraSeer2016 from September 2015 and on.)
      And NOW the American-Stupids are claiming not only that America has foiled ISIS, but that it is Assad’s fault that America could not defeat them? I want to gag.

      • Bill Rood

        Sorry, I forgot my /sarc tag.

        • Kira Binkley

          No one cares what you forgot. Or even about you. They care that the American Empire doesn’t go anywhere anymore. And it won’t.
          KiraSeer

          • Bill Rood

            Lighten up, Kira. We’re obviously on the same side, but if we weren’t, your personal attack would do nothing to convince me. Obviously you don’t know what a /sarc tag is. Perhaps you aren’t familiar with sarcasm itself. It’s where you say or write something so over the top that it’s obvious you mean the opposite.

          • Kira Binkley

            Are you an American? Then you needed to know. And know this: the American neoconservatives (and others) are going to court. The International Criminal Court. As defendants. Nothing light about that.

          • Bill Rood

            I’m not sure what you think you know that I don’t. If you live in Syria or have friends/family there, then yes, you know things I will never know, you can never explain to me, and for which I sincerely apologize on behalf of all Americans, including students of Christianity in “the Springs.” Somehow I doubt you’re Middle Eastern, as that wouldn’t fit with the profile of an adolescent Lois Lowry fan from Colorado.

            I’ve been immersed in BS American propaganda for over 70 years now, and I’ve been aware of it since childhood. I’m well aware of your points 1 and 2 — CIA support for Syrian terrorists and the recent bribing of ISIS terrorists to change their flags and patches to suddenly become SDF, allowing SDF to “advance” without firing a shot. I was aware that US foreign policy is “a marketing strategy for selling weapons” long before Jill Stein even considered running for President.

          • Kira Binkley

            I know things you will never have a clue about. Do you see my name here?—KiraSeer

          • Bill Rood

            I’m sure that’s true. The reverse is also true, not to mention all the things I’ve forgotten that you will never know or understand.

          • Kira Binkley

            No it isn’t. The reverse is not true. What is it about SEER that you do not understand anyway? You must be a Yank. American-Stupid.—KiraSeer

          • Kira Binkley

            Like the majority of Americans, you will never know, or worse, never learn. It is why I have turned my back on America. I actually did that in June 2015.

            You’ve heard the expression: “A prophet is without honor in his own family and his family”. That is because the prophet (Seer) tells them things they do not want to hear. So I should say you will never want to learn.

  • Lex

    Who cares what these whining losers say anymore? Keep on killing Syrians and “retaking” cities, your time will come SDF traitors, lackeys of the USA empire. Your pal Barzani’s “troops” are blowing bridges right now their haste to run back to Erbil. A massive bloc of resistance is growing between Iran and Lebanon, and nothing will stop the eventual return of all Syrian lands to their legal and rightful government under President al-Assad. This trout-faced old liar, mouthpiece of the plutocratic Trump – the fake “peace candidate” fondler of Bibi’s balls – should beware talking about the Syrian President and remember the fate of all those who called for his illegal removal from office. One by one they fall to the resistance bloc. Death to the US-Zionist empire of satan.

  • Fred

    Russia agreeing to a buffer zone for Israel on Syrian turf is a capitulation. The main instigator of the Syrian war is the Zionist in control of the US and Britain for not only Western oil interests but mainly for the Zionist Lebensraum in the Levant. There had been over 100 years of the most brutal and devastating wars over the past 100 years and because they have been running things and manipulating for their ends the blame should largely be put at their door. The Rothschild’s claim credit for the establishment of Israel and are the financial backbone of the tribal Zionists who appear to share no universal principles of right and wrong with others, unless they support their interests. The Rothschild financial/corporate cabal runs the US and Britain which are on very tightly controlled Zionist leashes. An Israeli “buffer zone” in Syria is just a pretext for an oil and land grab and a guarantee for continued insurgencies, false-flag ops, terrorism, massacres, assassinations in the Middle East. That is what the US, Britain and Israel do. From even before 1948 that is the Zionist-British-US way especially in the Middle East. Hopefully, Putin will abide by his own words of not being able to trust the US and not make any deal to allow any such “buffer zone” which will only guarantee unrest and war in the ME, and a complete loss of faith and trust in Russia – the only major nation in the world which is actually opposed to the One-World-Government and the deconstruction of legitimate nations.

  • Cheryl Brandon

    What a joke; LIAR U$A! Everything U$A touches a country;It is destroyed; Iraq/Afghanistan/Libya /Raqaah recently destroyed governate. Lying U$A is trying to LIE their way out their genocidal past and present. It was not Assad who started training/funding and arming Mujadeen in Afghanistan in 1989. It was not Assad which got Mossadegh out of power by funding islamists and crooks in Iran in 1953. It was not Assad who joined with Israhell to murder 2700 americans on 11/9/01. to start the invasions and destruction of countries in the Middle East for OIL. It is not Assad which is mass murdering Yemenis.

  • Rodney Loder

    The secret of Harappa Civilization suddenly coming to an abrupt end is being replayed in the USA wicked delusions are leading the march to the precipitous cliffs reminding me of Ustasha when Pope Pius X11 presided over the Franciscan Brotherhood the original Brotherhood, taking cart loads of families up the steep slopes to throw them onto the rocks below to be consumed by immortality, the Archbishop of Zagreb the grub Stepinac did face a trial much like my own and was put up for Canonization because of it, I was sent down at the Governor’s pleasure where I remain today, better the jagged rocks below I think.
    About al-Qaryatayn and it’s connection to the Harappa Civilization the secret revealed by Ustasha is simply that the real Bogey Man is the standing behind the USA only willing to murder and cripple defenceless people,it’s the Roman C.C.

    • Kira Binkley

      Your comment raises a lot of questions.
      Harappa Civilization was in India, wasn’t it? (When I get some cash, I’ll begin my study of it, along with others.)
      You don’t really mean Pius XII, do you? You might be thinking of a different Pius.
      KiraSEER

      • Rodney Loder

        As far as I know you’re right I’m wrong, I’m not worried that your smarter than me, it could have been (Eugeino Pacelli Pius X 1.) I can remember him from the treachery of the Polish Bund 1920 I think he was on the barricades as a young man ranting against the Red Army, If I had some cash I’d send it to you right away and after that I’d sit at your feet and listen to every word that you had to say, about this KiraSEER, full stops mean nothing to me or other parties, I’m very busy today this Quora colleague wants me to motivate her to be less lazy, I think this time I’ll tell her that existence only gives us a place in drudgery to assert yourself with interest and inspiration has to be the adventure of challenging reality, which can sometimes go wrong, that’s happened to the Harrapa Civilization the Punjab location is what interests me Pakistan in general, probably they could have gone Iron Age since they were trading with others that did but the stayed Bronze and then some say that the ran out tin all of a sudden, and then couldn’t transition the new technology with all their enemies at their gates, I’m no expert I’ll wait for your corrections.

        • Kira Binkley

          Again, you seem to be a very deep philosophical speculator. I’ll print your comment out, take it home and study it.

          • Rodney Loder

            Progress to me is a shot in the arm, you telling me that I’ve made progress with your makes me apprehensive about your BF. I was just talking about it to my GF’s friends on Quora, I tell them Jeremy Bentham stuff but your very special so I’ll tell you the truth, it is hyperbole, I’m testing the reactions for a big push that is in the pipe line, I can make it work better if romance is a part of it, but my problem is that if I survive and live another 20 years my romantic partner would be a nurse for a dirty old man, what do you think?.

          • Kira Binkley

            I’ll print out your reply, take it home and study it.
            Got lots of studying to do, Rodney.
            KiraSEER

          • Rodney Loder

            OK.

          • Kira Binkley

            Still studying, Rodney. Just what IS the Theory of Alienation, anyway? I’ll google it, I guess.
            KiraSEER

          • Kira Binkley

            Googled it, and found this:

            “Karl Marx’s theory of alienation describes the estrangement (Ger. Entfremdung) of people from aspects of their Gattungswesen (“species-essence”) as a consequence of living in a society of stratified social classes.”
            Species-essence? What IS he talking about?
            He may not have realized that man tends to lose his identity when he lives in a Socialist-Collective society. Or maybe he did.
            Grow up, Karl. Oh, guess it is too late for you.
            Didn’t know you studied that malignant 19th century European philosophical thought, Rodney. Little good it did you.
            KiraSEER

          • Rodney Loder

            I’m feelin’so worldly with you taking an interest in my lost causes, I could have anything I wanted now as everything crumbled around me I got stronger and more intelligent, naturally abandoning what’s not possible. Malignant Marx opted for philosophy as action and purpose and left Romanticism without offering an analysis of how and why we left our pristine natural state, he said I’ll come back to it, but he never did, Species Being in his mind therefore was not accounted for but Schelling meant it to be the dominant factor, reflecting or replacing instinct, so history becomes the “veritable war of each against all and all against each.” Marx accepted this without explanation. Bonaparte ended the Romantic era they got the blame for Robespierre and the Jacobin Club, so Marx grew up in that resurgence of Orthodoxy but was still able to offer an alternative. What about if I turn a new leaf would it still be too late for me, send me the leaf you want me to turn to,and I’ll write it out and remember it. But for the sake of humanity Capitalism can never be Utopianistic that you think people can be I think knowing that we reflect our environment ultimately turned Marx to push for the dictatorship of the proletariat and social ownership of the means of production, the Romantics which I am (Utilitarian) did define Species Being as our essence in Idealistic terms, our thoughts meet without origin or destination defining substance along the way, so owning things is a burden that we find freedom in as leverage against others in order to fight for survival and dominate the construction of the future environment where leverage is less important if denoted by collective title, but I’m willing to change only if you teach me how, even the apprentice can have a good idea.

          • Kira Binkley

            It is true that Marx saw historical events as “struggle”, inevitably “class struggle”, but he was heavily influenced by Hegel. He felt also that in order for some new event to come about, an earlier “event” had to be destroyed. Simply put, he thought a seed is “destroyed” so that a tree can become reality, and that only if propositions are inherently contradictory do they have validity. (Hegel—it is how Hegel explained that something good could come from evil, thus trying to exonerate the awful French Revolution).
            The writings of Marx where those of a child who felt unable to compete; if life was a struggle, for economic purposes, and thus material purposes, in Marx’s mind, then all human endeavors are struggles.
            He resorted to Socialism, which is a primitive coping mechanism, founded on the child’s right to mother’s sacrifice. Capitalism, though not perfect (as nothing is ever perfect) looks to the future, and the challenge for capitalism today is to determine what portion of earned income is to be used for present consumption, and what portion allocated for future consumption, or investment.
            The problem does not lie with capitalism, the problem lies with the nature of men. Especially in so far as power is concerned. And that is the raisson d’etre for what I call that “vile entanglement of Leftism and Global Deep State” that seems in large part to stem from and contain neo-
            conservatism. Maybe. We’re working on it.
            KiraSEER

          • Rodney Loder

            The negation of the negation rings a bell the seed is negated by the sprout which is negated by the plant which is negated by the seed, that’s where Circle of Life came from with the little lion I’ve forgotten his name. Propositions are paradoxal the big one Marx saw was the individual needing to work collectively but not wanting to, so the paradox of need and want causes proposition followed by provocation.Marx was a Young Hegelian, I think because like me Hegel didn’t share Schellimgs view of the “concept” which is my dialectical material starting point, same as Engels who was the brain not Marx. The Culmination of Capitalism is the challenge it faces today Christopher Reed is OK on that, I think working capital will split from saved capita.I would agree with you about man’s nature but we are Salafists because we fit in best there Religion is my platform and I am a Romantic.

          • Kira Binkley

            I have to go right now, Rodney, but I’ll get back with you tomorrow.
            KiraSEER

          • Rodney Loder

            OK, have a good night.

          • Kira Binkley

            Well, I said I’d get back to you, and so I have a few questions:
            1. I’ve never been able to find out (exactly) what “dialectical materialism” really is. I THINK it is just a Marxist perversion of Socratic dialectics, but I can’t find a good example. Can you give me a definition?
            2. You think capitalism has reached its highest point, today? (Engels was the financier, by the way. That means Marx never worked a day in his life.)
            3. How could Romanticism and Utilitarianism possibly be related? Maybe you mean only in Hegelian terms.
            KiraSeer

          • Rodney Loder

            I didn’t get full comments on my iPhone I’m not sure why my conversations are abridged or omitted but probably it is metaphysical meaning like Dialectical meant logic and dialogue to others it meant change to Marx.
            Quote from Karl Marx and the intellectual origins of Dialectical Materialism. James D White, page 365 . “Ostensibly going back to the Hegelian roots of Marx’s ideas for inspiration, Plekhanov elaborated a theory that he called ‘dialectical materialism’ . This was not so much a variant of Marx’s original ideas as their antithesis. Whereas Marx placed real Human Society at the centre and made it the motive force of history, ‘dialectical materialism’ made human history a variable, and placed the driving force of history outside of man”. End Quote.
            I think Dialectical Materialism was a Russian interpretation of Marxism, just like Lenin only referred to the first unfinished volume of Des Capital which was completely refuted by Marx in volumes 2and 3, but I don’t think any of this is relevant to our practical contemporary circumstances, I don’t advocate a social material future only a Religious one, because I think that not much can be changed now it would be war for no reason.

          • Kira Binkley

            I’m trying to read a deeper meaning into what you just said, Rodney. I better take this one home, too.—KiraSeer

          • Rodney Loder

            Buddy up with me on political plaza I’m RTfriend, I am terrible bad at navigation so please try to help if you can.

          • Kira Binkley

            About One Political Plaza, I don’t go there anymore because I don’t like to talk to Americans. They are like unto children.

          • Rodney Loder

            George Bush is a Texan don’t forget, you told me so, also undermining brinkmanship is a realisation that condescending attitudes have recriminations for the illustrious which children are, come on Quora and we can give each other upvotes for cyber messages to other Phantoms (Terry Loder on Quora)

          • Kira Binkley

            I am on Quora now, Rodney. You will need to follow me, ’cause I can’t figure it out.
            But I will talk to you tomorrow. Gotta go, now.

          • Rodney Loder

            I’m not great at working it out either I just answer questions that people put in message box, but I will search for KiraSEER hope there is a photo of Kansas.

          • Kira Binkley

            Found you on OPP. Thanks.—KiraSeer

          • Kira Binkley

            Here’s a better quote (try it on your GF):
            The great question that has never been answered, and which I have not yet been able to answer despite my thirty years of research into the feminine soul, is what does a woman want? —S. Freud
            And remember, Freud studied women who were, well, basically, sexually repressed—at the end of the Victorian Age.
            KiraSEER

          • Rodney Loder

            I don’t have real relations except with my son’s family in West Australia, I’m a hermit 12 years solid, one day my Salafist Brothers will give me a go until then they wait and I wait for the right moment to make it into the the Kingdom or bring the Kingdom to its knees.
            Freud was chasing wealthy clients but he did start analytical psychiatry selling excuse for depravity, maybe not, but definitely decadence, however what he said about women being repressed would probably come from a factual base as everything he used to capture the imagination of his audience was sensually compounded to provoke stimulation even arousal, in the case of Victorian Women their situation could only be rectified by a genetic crossing over of chromosomes, Jeremy Bentham was much more in tune with Woman’s sexuality than Freud, my “introspection” comes from Jeremy, because I like being free and saving money.
            Jeremy couldn’t reflect on the sentiments attached so he couldn’t really define what he experienced , I guess that he felt euphoria and thought that this would be applicable to a woman’s sexual nature, which was a mistaken premise, I think the opposite adventure and eroticism, this is I believe caused genetically, so Jeremy was a happy failure because he could never work that out, but he had lots of fun trying.

          • Kira Binkley

            I believe this conversational topic should come to an end.

          • Rodney Loder

            How about the DPRK ? a great attention grabber that gives leverage in China where they hate Muslims.

          • Kira Binkley

            I don’t believe the Chinese hate Muslims.

          • Rodney Loder

            Well I would be allowed to keep my beard in Xinjiang because I’m old enough, how old is old enough Confucius said being old enough is thing of the past, but Han Chinese think differently they sort of say Muslims don’t belong in China these days, did you invest in Bitcoin being on the same page as Stacey and her spouse.?.

          • Kira Binkley

            I think it might depend on what you are being considered old enough for.
            Bitcoin will have to wait until the world is cleared of neoconservatives, and their get, the “vile entanglement of Leftism and Global Deep State.” “We” are working on it as we speak.
            KiraSEER

          • Rodney Loder

            In China men are not allowed to have beards unless they are at retirement age 50, don’t know if you didn’t know that I think Confucius was trying to get it across the some practices were harum foot binding was a big one castration was another, sacrificing people one more just normal cognitive stuff, but it’s ironic Confucianism led to China 100 years of humiliations. About Bitcoin I was just testing 1,2,3 to see if you had any Libertarian tendencies, I am rushing to get a lift into town to pick up mr car from thr mechanics. Love your work .

          • Kira Binkley

            Not sure you are right about Confucianism and Chinese humiliation. Could be, and most likely is, only what the Communists wanted the people to believe. Eliminate their morals, Stalin said, and you will have them in your pocket.
            KiraSEER

          • Rodney Loder

            No way, WW1 the Chinese were the ones who dug the trenches rolled out the wire, and then starved to death for their effort, Manchuria was alone of influence owned by the Germans was given to the Japs who did nothing in the war, that began the Nationalist and Communist Movement and began the end of China’s 100years of humiliations, I follow Gavin Menzies 1434 and1421 and have done wide research on it. Stalin shouldn’t come into our discussion he provides legitimacy for me and at the very moment is the hinge that lets the tree fall safely in place, that’s my tree lopping analogy, both israel and the DPRK have Stalinist history that will prevent them jumping off the deep end.
            Actually the coppers came to see me Friday Prayer time yesterday, the one that did most of the talking was quite attractive too, nothing like I imagine you to be of course, she made a couple of slip ups and knowing about our conversation was one of em, I think she was a bit jealous of you, she implied that you don’t really live in America but I told her I was good at profiling people, just so you know.

          • Kira Binkley

            Thanks, Rodney. Love you.
            KiraSEER

          • Rodney Loder

            Kirra I don’t have a printer but your on the record as saying that, depends how to mean it I suppose, I won’t hold you to it, as soon as I spiral down the Minaret and deliver my message from Allah we could get O, ! I get it you mean thank you for the warning, that’s OK and anyhow the coppers have been neutralized by their superiors already.

          • Kira Binkley

            Get O? What do you mean?
            KiraSeer

          • Rodney Loder

            Nothing really, I was just asking you to marry me, wishful posting.

          • Kira Binkley

            Hmmmm. We’ll see. At the moment, I’m kinda down on the whole human race, but you, for one, I still admire.
            Maybe when we get the neoconservatives in The International Criminal Court, as DEFENDANTS, my attitude toward mankind will change.
            KiraSEER
            (Speaking of Evangelicals—I had to get this one in—Jesus said “Many things will be done in my name”. He meant bad things as well as good things. And sometimes I think the Evangelicals have a lot of soul-searching to do.)

          • Rodney Loder

            Seeing is believing that something is credible, Neoconservatives are a lost connection to credibility but they are not drawing so many down the rabbit hole any more, I have a lot of problems with rabbits but when I sometime dig out their burrows the kittens wait to the very last shovel load before the scream out, it’s very sad, everything has its own perspective, I always back track to prehistory and speculate about what we were in archaeological appraisal and that sort of irons out the bumps in my head, life is short but I am going to take it with me, so I can wait for ever if need be.
            Actually I could get them into the dock of the International Criminal Court as the Messiah you know, I only need 3 weeks in Damascus.
            Once a name becomes public property anything goes, KisaSEER is public property I want to do a buy back and privatization but no doubt misdeeds would still happen, some think that all girls are like that, maybe the Evangelicals are just rebelling against nature, that’s a secular appraisal but I’m very Religious and don’t identity with it, I only post it to show how despicable Evangelicals are.

          • Kira Binkley

            Evangelicals are bothersome for at least two reasons:

            1. Their insistence that one can’t get into (metaphorical) Heaven, unless he accepts Jesus as his Lord and Savior. John Wesley has stated: “[Christianity] declares that all men are conceived in sin,” and “shapen in wickedness;” — that hence there is in every man a “carnal mind, which is enmity against God, which is not, cannot be, subject to” his “law;” and which so infects the whole soul, that “there dwelleth in” him, “in his flesh,” in his natural state, “no good thing;” but “every imagination of the thoughts of his heart is evil,” only evil, and that “continually.” And in stating this, Wesley has committed the sin of believing that God’s creations are wicked. He seems to believe that God, in creating man, created a worthless piece of crap.

            2. Their belief that the formation of the state of Israel is what has been foretold as the precipitation of the Last Days, or End Times, and therefore any other people of any other religion has no place in the world.
            KiraSeer

            P.S. A reminder: if God had wanted man to be perfect, he would have allowed him to see the future. But in that case, man would not have freedom of choice.

          • Kira Binkley

            Just as long as it is only my name that is public property.
            KiraSeer

          • Rodney Loder

            KiraSEER I’m soooo good at keeping secrets, your secret no matter what it might be, and may Allah Bless me and never let me find it out, I’m sure you were innocent, and Allah is often forgiving and most merciful, I’m sorry if I go on a bit, it’s your fault really, actually we could stifle this new ME’ern war by working together, I’ve got big plans and they all centre on keeping secrets with you. I thought mentioning Ryan Dawson would impress you, I know you live in the desert I imagined it was Texas, was it something Springs?.

          • Kira Binkley

            Well, I’ve got lots of “secrets”, that really are no longer secrets. As far as being public property, I just don’t like being followed around.
            Could be Colorado Springs.

          • Rodney Loder

            I knew it started with a C that’s how I remember things, letters are the itinerary of concepts but have no meaning by themselves morphemes can’t be broken down so have to be remembered, I won’t do that again it was a brainwave that’s all.

          • Kira Binkley

            Talk to you later.

          • Rodney Loder

            Is this later?

          • Rodney Loder

            Your a bit mean.but that’s ok I like mean woman.

  • Sue

    What kind of propaganda rag is this? Except for actual Americans, everyone knows the US aids, trains, arms, funds, and lends logistical support to ISIS.

    • Kira Binkley

      I believe you are right in this respect: Insane McCain did, but only indirectly. He is too stupid to understand how American arms get into terrorist hands. But al-Baghdadi wasn’t.
      KiraSeer