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Secret Iranian Weapons Or Trump Lie? US Casualties From Iranian Attack Just Grew To 109

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Secret Iranian Weapons Or Trump Lie? US Casualties From Iranian Attack Just Grew To 109

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On February 10th, the US Department of Defense released a statement confirming that, now, 109 service members had been diagnosed with traumatic brain injury as a result of the Iranian ballistic missile attack on the al-Asad base in Iraq.

That is an increase of 45, since the ever-expanding list grew to 64 in the end of January.

The statement added that nearly 70% of the injured service members have returned to duty.

“We are grateful to the efforts of our medical professionals who have worked diligently to ensure the appropriate level of care for our service members, which has enabled nearly 70 percent of those diagnosed to return to duty. We must continue to address physical and mental health together,” Pentagon press secretary Alyssa Farah said in a statement.

“Our research has been instrumental in the development of various breakthroughs to improve the lives of those individuals who have sustained brain injuries. Our efforts must address the total picture – before, during and after any blast exposure or injury. This is a snapshot in time and numbers can change. We will continue to provide updates as they become available,” Farah added.

During a news conference at the Pentagon in January, Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley said the increasing number of reported cases stems in part from the fact that the injuries, for the most part, fall into the category of “mild TBI” which takes time for symptoms to manifest.

“All of those people were screened and we have got a certain number and the number is growing, in this particular case TBI — that manifests, it takes some time to manifest itself, it’s not an immediate thing necessarily — some cases it is, some cases it’s not. So we continue to screen,” Milley said. “Some of them have been evacuated to Europe, some have been evacuated back to the United States so there is a layered approach to this, we’ll continue to do that with our medical professionals.”

There are two options that are becoming more and more apparent as time goes by and the number of injuries goes up:

  1. The US lied about there being no injuries, and the ever-expanding number is evidence of that. There’s still nobody who died, allegedly.
  2. The “evil Iranians” used some sort of special missile with a warhead loaded with chakrams, or carrying some curse that’s now haunting the US troops and causing them to receive injuries approximately a month after the incident.

The possible prototype of the warhead of the Iranian weapon could be the chakram from Xena, it can potentially infinitely ricochet and appears to magically target the enemy. It could be that it is still ricocheting between the US troops and injuring them.

It will forever remain a mystery.

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  • Selbstdenker

    The main question is: how many casualties are there still to be revealed from the other attacked base in Erbil. So far no numbers and no satellite pictures, together with a total media blackout.

    • goingbrokes

      Good point, I forgot about Erbil! Have you found anything at all?

      • Selbstdenker

        There is nothing on the internet, and all my sources are blind as well. Interesting thing is, that you cannot get any! Satellite pictures, even if you are willing to pay for. My source in northern Iraq tells of heavy construction works ongoing in the base, but not possible to take pictures, as the whole base is cordoned off.

  • Barba_Papa

    Isn’t it a good thing they lied about the number of casualties? If they had said that right after it happened there might have been a public backlash for more military action against Iran, leading to more stupid thing. Now the US let Iran have its tit for tat revenge, pushed the real casualty numbers to the backpage weeks later and things were allowed to cool down. I’d say for once the Americans acted smart. Shocking I admit, but then again even a broken clock tells the right time at least twice a day.

    • Selbstdenker

      I guess it was not out of smartness, but out of fear. US totally underestimated Irans missile capability. An assessment circulated in US military gt´ranted only limited precision capabilities to Iranm and underestimated Irans readiness. A reassessment of the scenarios lead to the decission tom deescalate, as US assets in the reagion are all under imense threat. There are the ships in the persian gulf, the Airbases in Iraq, Kuwai, Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia, which are all in range. No sophisticated air defense in place and not enough counter strike capabilities available to react on the next level of retaliation. It was the only possible reaction not to risk a war with Iran, which would hit US in the region very hard.

      • totally chief! not because of smartness, but for fear.

      • Jake321

        Yes it might. But it would likely result in millions of Iranian deaths and the end to Islamist Iran as a functioning country. It is amazing how much the Islamist Iranian supporters around here hate Iranians, pining for so many to be dead. Be thankful the US didn’t respond. And I sure hope the Islamist Iranian leadership aren’t as stupid and suicidal as all the folk here wishing such destruction and death on Iran.

        • Selbstdenker

          It would also mean millions of others dead, not only Iranians. The whole region would suffer, and nobody knows, if Iran would utilize a container bomb (dirty bomb), shipped as import to US via a secondary port. There are scenarios, that such bombs are already in US, and if the scenarios are reality, noone does know where these bombs would be ignited. Imaging a dirty bomb going off in e.g. New York, or San Bernadino valley, distributing its radiation materials there. The whole economy of the world would break down. Countries which are self sustained due to years of embargo are much less affected then countries dependent on free flow of good. US would face uprisings and riots,as well as other countries without sufficient food supplies.

          • Jake321

            You are now in full delusion mode. And every thing you pine for just would guarantee even more millions of dead Iranians. And even a fool like you knows that by far the greatest destruction and death will come to Iran. So again, folk like you must really really hate the Iranian People.

          • Robert Campbell

            Wow your one delusional guy! Iran has thousands of bases hundreds on meters under ground! Simulations carried out by your country says Iran could sink your navy within hours and destroy all your Middle Eastern bases !

          • Jake321

            You must be into video games. Did that video game show the results of tactical nukes? Nahhhhhh…it sure didn’t. And, yes, if need be they will be used.

          • Selbstdenker

            how, if there is no means to apply them?

          • Selbstdenker

            You talk BS, maybe out of missing knowledge, or because you are not capable to scenario thinking. US had never been attacked on own soil, nor did US population had ever been feed reality by their media. Pentagon budget is used in Hollywood movies, whenever there is a representation of US military. And US military influences the despiction of military in movies and TV series. It is doing propaganda since the 30s of last century, brain washing Americans, and making them believe, US military is superior in any ways. The reality is somewhat different.

            For example: During my army time in the German army Signal intelligence, we proofed US military worthless by applying our EW system, rendering their complete command structure incapable to transmit their orders during military manouvers. we were on the red team supposed to lose. It was not allowed, that red team would win, so the manouver was stopped after only 2 days, and reset, whereas our unit was not allowed for the rest of the manouver to utilize our system against our opponent. Lessons learned? All is good, and blue was superior to win the excercise. US military again the most superior force on the planet. And this happend all the time.

        • John Wallace

          Be thankful the US didn’t respond and thousands of Americans weren’t heading home in body bags. The shock of that would have shattered American overblown confidence that would have resulted in millions seeking psychiatric help. Trump got a big shock and was TOLD by those with brains too STOP. I have said before that if you listen too his speech where he says the world is very lucky translates too his ONLY option was to go nuclear to prevent , maybe , Iran from obliterating American bases and ships all over the ME killing thousands and embarrasing the US in front of the world. The bully got a wakeup call and the sooner you wakeup to that reality the better.

          • Selbstdenker

            Think about what would have happened, if Iran would have devastated all US bases in Afghanistan instead.

          • John Wallace

            They had 2nd and 3rd responses worked out had the US retatiated. 2nd response had mimimum 500 US daeths followed by 5000 ontheir 3rd response. Those would have included Afghanistan as well as other bases all over the ME . Without warning the US hours before the stike American losses would have been massive, Instead of a dozen misiles and the base hit with 100 what would have remained.
            I see the Philipines has told Trump their military treaties are finished and to get out of the Philipines . What happens now is anyones guess as America will not like that at all. Assasinations in the wind ??.

          • Jake321

            And the US had its back up plans as well which include the total destruction of Iran and the use of at least tactical nukes if need be. Oh, and that doesn’t even include the Israeli back up plans. So stop taking your victory laps in the hope of millions of Iranians dead.

          • Robert Campbell

            You use nukes on Iran expect China and Russia to retaliate! See this kind of thinking from you yanks , Iran needs to build some nukes just to keep you crazy idiots at bay!

          • Jake321

            LOL…sure, the Unicorns will come to Islamist Iran’s nuclear aid at the cost of a global nuclear war. You and yours are totally delusional and bonkers. And Islamist Iran will never be allowed to have nuclear weapons even if it takes nukes to stop it. Get real and stop wishing millions of deaths on the Iranian People. Do you hate them so much?

          • Robert Campbell

            Of course they will , Russia is Iran’s ally, and China just invested 400 billion dollars in iran! Don’t worry you keep living in fairy land tho.. your the reason why most of the world hates your country!

          • Jake321

            You must feel really lucky. For the sake of the Iranian People, I sure hope their Islamist leadership is not as delusional, stupid and suicidal as you. Guess some do hate the US. But still, lots of the best and the brightest still want to move here over any other place in the world. And more folk from virtually all countries move here compared to those already here who move back.

          • Robert Campbell

            The only one delusional is you! Can’t even beat sander wearing taliban but think you can take on Iran ? Hilarious! 400 million Shias around the world would hit you hard! Plus all Iranian allies! Your country won’t use nukes because Russia and China will retaliate!

          • Jake321

            You do feel lucky don’t you? And you mean under 200 million Shi’a who will be busy dealing with well over a billion or so Sunni. What allies does Islamist Iran have? And which ones will also commit national suicide to go down with Iran? And again, Russia and China sure aren’t among those pining for national suicide and the end of the world. They will be happy to say nice things, provide some marginal weapons and wait to pick over the ruins. Get real and stop wishing such bad things on the Iranian People.

          • John Wallace

            Love twisting things around but that doesn’t make you right. You will wake up one day. Not soon but one day..

          • John Wallace

            Total destruction of Iran. How is it going for you in Afghanistan after what nearly 20 years you are about to do a Vietnam victory withdrawl. Multiple war game scenarios have shown it is near on impossible to destroy Iran. It is impossible to win a ground war in Iran. It is impossible too stop Iran firing missiles wherever they want killing thousands of US . At what cost are you prepared to go to in an effort to destroy Iran. Does that include your death or the death of your family or is it at the cost of other families sons and daughters. Dipshit.

          • Me&Myself None

            But, why do you cowards always refer to the use of nukes to fight countries with 1/20 of your military budget?

            It is like a grown man threatening to pull his gun on an unarmed 16 years old child, because he is too coward to fight the kid mano a mano.

          • Drew

            The more correct comparison would be pulling his gun on an unarmed toddler.
            All because the US is very weak in conventional wars, can’t defeat even weak countries.

          • Drew

            You just justified the need for nukes for Iran and other countries, threatened by the Jewnited Snakes of ISISrahell!!

          • Jake321

            It would be the end of Iran as a functioning country and by the time it was over, many millions of Iranians would be dead. We should all be thankful the Iranians didn’t try to take full vengeance and Trump didn’t fulfill his bluster. But it still can happen if Iranian learns the wrong lessons from this or pushes for a nuke weapon. The fat lady has not sung yet.

          • Robert Campbell

            you have no idea! Just another delusional yank! Haven’t won a war since ww2 and you think you can take on Iran , hilarious

          • Jake321

            Well, Serbia would disagree. But do note how we won WW2. Might be that there will be a return to the good old winning days with Islamist Iran as the first test case. Oh, and also note there is a difference between winning and destroying. In any case, it will be totally disastrous for the Iranian People. Why do you wish that on them? You must really hate them.

          • Robert Campbell

            Russia was at its weakest point then! After what your country did to Libya Putin already said he would never let you destroy another country. That’s why his defending Syria! China has already signed a defence pact with Iran as did Russia!

          • Jake321

            Sure, like Russia helps Iran when Israel blows them away in Syria at will and with impunity all the time. You are delusional. Russia and China will not commit suicide for you or Islamist Iran. Oh, go read the terms of that “Defense Pack.”

          • Drew

            You apparently are ready commit suicide in your delusional arrogance.

          • Drew

            Delusional phony patriot idiot! USSR won WW2. The US entered only after the Russians were closing in on Germany. The German military of WW2 would have mopped the floor with the US! The US had severe difficulties with the few German divisions and had to beg the Russians to start offensive in the East against the 85 % of German military to relieve them from the 15% understaffed, depleted German divisions in the West! Learn history, but where? The schools are lie factories, just like your JewsMedia!

          • John Wallace

            Obviously not today Jake but one day realisation will hit home..

          • Jake321

            The realization you need to get through your thick skull is that any massive attack by Islamist Iran on US interests or Israel will definitely result in many many millions of Iranian homes being hit, regardless of the costs. For now, the bullet has been dodged mainly by the Iranian People.

          • Pork

            Theoretically, you may be right. But rest assured, it would mean the end of the illegal zionist entity as well as the end of US financial system and hegemony in the region.

          • Selbstdenker

            Always repeating the Israeli war scenarios, which postulate the invincibility of F35. But the reality is different. Israel is not even able to deploy it’s F35 over Syrian territory anymore. How would they possibly hit Iran with it? Open your eyes, and start thinking by your own.

          • Jake321

            I didn’t say otherwise. But you diverted from the fact that by the time the likely all out war with Iran was over, many millions of Iranians would be dead and Iran would no longer be a functioning country. Oh, and that assumes that Trump didn’t feel he had to use nukes to end the war or that Iran wasn’t stupid and suicidal enough to seriously attack Israel. In that case, Iran would glow in the dark even earlier and have even more dead. I am thankful it didn’t come to this. But too many here pine for this to happen. And again, if Iran feels too embolden it still can happen. If Iran now pushes for a nuclear weapon it WILL happen. Just the way it is and will be. The best solution to this disaster for the Iranian People would be an end to their Islamist rule.

        • Robert Campbell

          lmao, you really think you can beat Iran? Are you delusional, Iran can destroy all your assets around the Middle East. They already proven they can! Wake up, your power is no where near what it used to be!

          • Jake321

            Who said beat? I said destroy. There actually is a difference.

        • Pork

          US didn’t respond not because they wanted to cool things off. They didn’t respond because Iran sent a message through third party that if US does respond Iran would target all military assets the US has in the region.
          Nuclear option is a myth. Even if the US or israel respond with nukes, that signs their death certificate in the region, destroys the petro – dollar and the financial system the west was built with and gives China, Russia and Iran the world economy on a silver platter.

          You see, the problem with zionists is they believe their own lies. Not to mention their one dimensional thought processes that leads them to believe they are masters of the universe.

      • Barba_Papa

        That may have been the case too. I still like to think that Trump took a look at the numbers and the numbers told him that his own voter base doesn’t want war with Iran. So he downplayed the results of the Iranian strike, so as to not rile up the War Party and its supporters and let things cool down. He’s in his election year, the US economy is doing well, the Democrats marketing themselves out of the market with their SJW crazyness, he really only can lose the election by doing something stupid himself. Starting a war with Iran because the War Party and its supporters were riled up over a successful Iranian attack would only qualify doing something stupid for his re-election.

      • Selbstdenker

        One link to the analysis paper circulated in US military before Irans retaliatory strike. The analysis was done 2019, and missed completely the accuracy of rockets. It states:
        “Iran and North Korea’s current ballistic missile systems may lack the
        mix of accuracy and lethality to hit point targets with anything
        approaching predictable effectiveness, but they still have deterrent
        value, political impact, and reinforce the potential threat posed by the
        risk they may eventually be armed with weapons of mass destruction.”

        THis shows, that military intelligence about Irans capability is very limited, and the analysis was proven inaccurate regarding Irans capability to strike precision strikes, and its threat level.
        https://www.csis.org/analysis/iranian-missile-threat

        • Drew

          US “intelligence” was busy supporting terrorists, working on regime changes, bio attack on China and other international crimes and crimes against humanity. They did not catch the Russian superweapons either, which were in the works for years.

    • John Wallace

      A look at the NO damage caused. They didn’t know what hit them. Apart from bad headaches they also had dysentry problems.
      https://www.yahoo.com/news/officials-more-100-u-troops-182431384.html

      • Jake321

        LOL…top dead general and half a dozen top military buddies equals some dysentery? You not only hate Iranians, you greatly insult their top dearly departed.

      • FlorianGeyer

        I am informed that the US Dept of Defence has sourced 109 boxes of Anadin for headaches at a special price for the US Dept of Defence of 1 million USD per box.

        • John Wallace

          Fools. I am sure with some mother country knowledge and colonial ingenuity we could have come up with a deal of the century ,,, oops looks ike someone has done that one already. , best deal of the week then , on asprin specialy formulated for multiple TBI’s at a price the CIA would like to takeover the operation.

          • FlorianGeyer

            We should register a company.

            ‘Scamazon’, the company that cures headaches in a flash.
            Free delivery on prepaid orders over 100,000 USD. We Work for you.

          • John Wallace

            Head Office Lagos . All orders will be shipped direct from our factory by the slowest method possible . Each shipment will include a free map to where Idi Amin stored his gold under a bridge that once resided in London but was moved too Kampala to straddle Lake Victoria for a shortcut too Nairobi. . I have taken out a patent on a new headache cure based on a mix of Peyote , Ayahuasca and 22 herbs and spices too assist in taking of one’s medicine. How can we go wrong ?? . We will work for you too relieve your money, oops sorry cross that out and input pain.

          • FlorianGeyer

            If you are not already on the Davos guest list, you certainly will be next year, John. :)

    • John

      Hello Papa. I see your point and it makes sense. Where I see differently is that lies don’t go away. They keep multiplying and complicating everything around those whom have lied. Right now, people in the US are viewing MIC leadership very differently than they did decades ago. This fabrication about what has happened at the bases in Iraq is not helping them. My take. I wish well to you.

    • Drew

      Americans did not act smart! They were shitting in their pants about what would happen to other US military bases in the area, Hell Aviv, Haifa,,, if they retaliate. Hint; Iran promised to level all of those places if America dares to retaliate. They had to cover up the casualties in order NOT to retaliate, because US retaliations would have led to far worse American and Zio losses.
      US military superiority no longer exists!

  • Davki

    The US is astonishingly frank about the effects. It is indeed normal for some symptoms to set in. Certainly, some obfustication will be present. However, SF spin of ‘two options’ is nonsense. Give it up already, people can think for themselves, they don’t need you to try manipulating their conclusions.
    In the end, Iran is giving the US a headache. Fair enough.

    • Selbstdenker

      Frank to reveal the fake story. I guess that the number of accidents and suicides will increase massively in the next few month to make up the numbers for the “missing”.

    • FlorianGeyer

      Lol.

  • Damien C

    It is my firm belief that many are claiming to be injured because they qualify for a Purple Heart medal
    This automatically qualifys them for full GI bill benefits

    So there’s a financial angle its the military equivilant to an insurance whiplash scam

    • BMWA1

      A variation on Ukridge accident syndicate

    • Bobby Twoshoes

      Can you blame them? The US is well known for abandoning their vets. Besides, what could be more American than using a legal loophole to screw someone out of money?

    • Zionism = EVIL

      Well me kiddies, listen to your uncle, I stand by my initial analysis of 33 Americunts dead, 200 plus wounded and several hundred suffering from migraines, headaches, and menopause as far away as North Carolina :) the dumbass losers can’t even lie properly.

      • Jake321

        And the very dead top general and half a dozen of his top military buddies can’t even lie anymore. Quite the winners.

        • rightiswrong rightiswrong

          So too is the CIA frontman who organised that cowardly murder, and his entire crew.

          Your ducking entire race nearly bought it also, only a few rats left over.

      • Justin

        Fuck off!
        All of your dumb calls are wrong!
        Such as u saying Turkey has no European Genetics! it took one photo of the Turkish womens volleyball team to shut u up!
        u even said Putin was Bibi’s puppet and then i PROVED it was a prisoner exchange!
        YOU GET EVERYTHING WRONG! ALWAYS!

        As for this, there would have to be a town meeting for these missiles to do anything!
        i saw 3 or 4 craters!
        i think Iran is under pressure to attack again to even up the score! But dont actually want to regarding US threats of BIG counter attacks!
        Therefore i think the USA is throwing Iran a bone!
        USA: “What will be better? 50 dead? 100 dead?”
        Iran:100 is good but make it 109 so its sounds realistic”
        USA:Done! Now remember if u attack again, Khomeni is DEAD and so too a few of your nuclear reactors and enrichment plants”!
        Iran: “OK”

        • The Objective

          Trump promised to hit Iran hard should Iran touch “Anything” America. Then Iran downed a U.S drone and Trump did “Nothing”.

          Trump warned that the U.S will retaliate against any attacks on its allies. Then Saudi Arabia’s oil fields were hit. According to Trump, Iran is responsible. But again, Trump did Nothing.

          Trump warned Iran that if it retaliated against “American Interests” for the Soleimani assassination, the U.S will bomb over 50 cultural sites in Iran. Then the retaliation came and Trump did nothing.

          It is obvious that America’s credibility is on the line.

          Regarding your claim that America could have shot down these missiles if it wanted to, anyone following recent news will know at once you are misinformed – one of these Americans who still believe in their country’s invincibility. The Invincible American military that is still being killed in Afghanistan in a 20-year war against against a poorly-armed Taliban.

          Would you mind to explain what happened to your anti-missile systems in Saudi Arabia last year? Another Houthi attack took place about 2 weeks ago. Know any details about the attack?

          • Justin

            Trump promised to hit Iran hard should Iran touched “Anything” American. Then Iran downed a U.S drone and Trump did “Nothing”.

            Ummmm the next General of the Quds forces was just killed in Yemen! HELLO!!!! Is anyone home??

            The reason u dont KNOW what is going on is why u THINK u know what is going on!
            U THINK Patriots work 98% of the time with examples like Saudi patriots defending against Yemen launched Missiles! Suddenly Zero defence against Iran? Are u stupid? Do u know the USA is in an intelligence war? Did u know this? Well then fuck me, how does someone explain to a fish in a fish bowl that there is a whole other world out there!

            im not going through all of this shit to explain to your uninformed dumb ass! so ill just use clues and u can find out urself!
            Huma Abedein (who is her father and uncle? (Muslim brotherhood)
            Where is she from? Saudi Arabia
            Why did Benghazi happen? Obama was selling stinger missiles to Afghans? Hillary was selling Davey Crockets to Saudi Arabia?
            Why didnt Hillary send the military to rescue ambassador stevens and the rest?
            Where did the Davey Crockets end up?
            Why did she smash all of her devices and bleach bit them?

            What does all i am saying have to do with US patriots failing?
            Find out for urself u dumb cunt!

            Who is FBI special Agent Peter Strozk? Lived and raised where? Iran?
            Who is FBI lawyer Lisa Paige? Born and raised where? Iran?
            Who is Vellerie Jarrett? Born and raised where? Iran?

            What does all i am saying have to do with US patriots failing?
            Find out for urself u dumb cunt!

            Why were Pictures leaked by Eric Prince himself (the head of Blackwater) showing John McCain working as the handler of Al-Quieda and ISIS and the white hats in Turkey? Why would Eric prince leak these photos he himself took?

            What does all i am saying have to do with US patriots failing?
            Find out for urself u dumb cunt!

            THIS IS FAR ABOVE YOUR BRAIN CAPACITY MY FRIEND!
            Missiles dont suddenly stop working! Excuses made by the USA for the Saudi accident were bullshit (“oh we had our radars pointed to the south and not the north”)

            It was done on purpose! Saudi is as much an enemy of the USA as is Iran! Thats what u dont know! Saudi, Iran, China, Israel and Russia (and many other allied nations) have either bought political influence or have blackmailed political influence (Epstein)!

            Thus intelligence war!
            What did Trump secure before hurting Saudi’s oil exporting capacities? He secured American oil first! self sufficient! Who took up the 5% market share that this incident created? USA!

            Who benefitted from that attack on Saudi oil Facilities?
            Iran was blamed, Saudi was hurt, USA benefitted $$$$
            Saudi then pays USA to have troops there! Message sent!
            Message: “We can play dirty too, say good bye to your exporting capacity! Do u see how easy we can hurt u and blame someone else?”

            u dont understand at all! all of ur news comes from South Front!
            u are a fish in a fish bowl! u dont KNOW whats going on!

            THINK! The Patriot systems worked fine until suddenly, boom, super accurate hits occurred and u think these missiles were invisible to the USA? U think they didnt see what was coming? Maybe it was the USA who launched them!

            u have no idea! get ur head of the fish bowl and find out what is really going on! Intelligence war!
            ur dumb ass doesnt even know that Hillary and Obama were working for Iran and Saudi! ur dumb ass cant do the math because u think “duh, what about isis, the USA created isis duh and u think obama was working with Iran? Duh!”

            Thats how ur tiny brain works!

            u have no idea whats going on! lets just leave it at that!
            u think this is checkers! (Der, missiles didnt work, derrrr)
            Its Chess u moron (Hidden reasons for everything)
            Figure out the reasons!
            Thats why all good detective shows state these words!
            “Qui bono, Who benefits”
            “Follow the money”

          • The Objective

            Thank you for a lengthy reply. I would have replied earlier had I checked my notifications yesterday. Let me remark that we can disagree without insulting each other, and can actually learn from each other.
            Everything you said summarizes to four key points.
            1. Patriot Missile Defense is an effective anti-missile defense system. Its recent failure stems from a shadowy intelligence war.
            2. The attack on Saudi oil facilities is in the interest of America (America deliberately allowed Patriots to fail)
            3. Trump is following his threats on Iran with action (making good on them)
            4. America allowed Iran a pre-agreed symbolic retaliation.
            I am obliged to say that your points are widely out. I will explain each of the above summary points separately to avoid being flagged as spammy.

          • The Objective

            1.The attack on Saudi oil facilities is in the interest of America (America deliberately allowed Patriots to fail)
            Before I start picking your argument apart, I want you to read this short article published on the website: foreignpolicy.com. Here is the link: https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/03/28/patriot-missiles-are-made-in-america-and-fail-everywhere/
            This is not just any random article. The author has credibility because of the institution he works for. He specifically states that the article reflected their position at “The Middlebury Institute of International Studies”. EARLIER SUCCESSFUL ATTACKS WERE NOT AGAINST OIL FACILITIES. So how do they benefit America’s oil companies?
            Deliberately allowing Patriots to fail sends the wrong message to allies who rely on them and prospective buyers. Do you know how much America makes a year from weapons sales? $55 billion. The failure of a critical defense system casts doubts on America’s claims on the potency of other weapons systems. In fact, America over-hyped the effectiveness of the Patriot Missile Defense Systems, and many believed them until the Yemeni war started. When people start to doubt the effectiveness of your weapons due a previous false claim, then America’s weapons industry is headed for a bleak future. The question today is, are the B52s and F22s as potent as the U.S wants the world to believe? I don’t think so. Even Turkey doesn’t think so. They gave up their partnership and economic interest in the F35 program just to buy Russia’s S-400.
            By allowing the Patriots to fail, America is deliberately destroying its weapons industry and economy. Are you saying the U.S took all this risk just to benefit from a 5% drop in global oil supplies – a gain that did not last even two months? (The Saudis restored operations in less than two months). Do not forget that the failure of Patriots only promotes Russia’s S-300 and S-400 defense systems. Turkey and India are an example of such a result. No amount of bullying by the U.S will make India and Turkey back off from purchasing more S-400 systems. Do not believe this bullshit about Turkey insisting on “technology transfer”. In case you do, then what about India?

          • Justin

            “EARLIER SUCCESSFUL ATTACKS WERE NOT AGAINST OIL FACILITIES. So how do they benefit America’s oil companies?”

            Ill answer your question with a question! Did Sanctions on Russia benefit US oil companies who had already invested 100 Billion into geolocating Russia’s hidden oil reserves? Did i not just say that the US picked up the 5% gap in the market share after the attack on the saudi Facility? Unlike Russia and Saudi, oil is not the main factor for the US economy! YES i know the Petro dollar is but that is not changing from this one incident!

            Yes Deliberate failure is not good for sales i agree! However, like i said, this is an intelligence war! THERE IS FAR FAR FAR MORE TO THIS THAN U KNOW! Which is why i sed the “Fish in a fish bowl” analogy! U THINK u know! Therefore what i tell u doesnt make sense! Therefore i KNOW how confused and frustrated u are by my words! But it doesnt change the fact that I KNOW more than u on this! Im not saying i am smarter than u, im saying u are missing BIG Chunks of information that completely turn what u THINK u know on your head! So the short version is this “intelligence war”! The long story is me explaining everything that has happened over the last 3 years so u can understand!

            For example, i bet u have ZERO knowledge as t why Trump announced having a military parade on July 4th 2019! The USA never does this! So why do it? Are u going to tell me the reason South Front told u? Are u going to tell me the reason YOU think? Because let me tell u something, the parade was done for extremely HIGH national security purposes! But i am willing to bet my house that u have no idea why the parades occurred! In fact u will probably state how it isnt related at all to what we are talking about! YET IT IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT! Nor will u ask why the Russian Sub incident back in July last year is also directly related the the USA’s military parades! (Which occurred within 48 hours of each other). You wont understand how the change of the Saudi Crown Prince occurred after Trump was elected! U wont understand what the REAL reason was of the Crown Prince entrapment of all other Princes was REALLY about! Nor will u understand how Prince Bin Talal Alaweed TRULY made his fortune and what happened to him during the capture! You wont understand how Trump was able to cross the North Korean DMZ and shake hands with Kim Jung Un! You wont understand that Trump and Putin are allies! You wont understand how they are working together extremely closely and that that Russian Sub incident was an operation conducted with the USA and was a major part of freeing this world (which this fight is still continuing)!

            None of this occurs to u! Its all just unexplained background incidents that does not enter ur mind for thoughts or connecting dots! U just spew the same stuff that everyone else on SouthFront spews! Just what u THINK u know! All u know is the view of Iran, Syria or Russia wants u to know! Yes u now the USA view too! U prefer the Iran view! But u dont know the REAL view!

            u dont know how this world came right to the edge of destruction! That Russia and the USA are now allies (unofficially)!

            I do not care for your links! In this situation i am the teacher! im not trying to big note myself! but if u truly want to wake up! Talk to me when u are ready to learn! One subject at a time! Or i can forward u an ocean of information!

            if i were u, id be asking ME what does the Russian Sub incident have to do with the US military parade in all major cities have to do with each other! Then i would ask why they both occurred around the same time! Then i would ask how this relates to the USA and Russia being allied together! Because knowing the answer to this question will help u understand whats really going on! it will awaken u to a whole new view on the world!

            It will explain the VERY VERY small incident with the patriot missile systems! it will explain Iran’s Obama deal! it will help u hate Israel more, love Russia, love Trump! It will help u see Kim Jung Un as a captured puppet! It will help u see Iran as a bad guy controlled by Globalists! It will help u see that Trump and Putin have brought down the Rothschilds, the Saudi Royal family and only have one true enemy left…. George Soros! i can prove all i am saying! yes PROVE! Israel has been brought to its knees by both Trump and Putin! all that u see being reported “Trumop sucks up to israel, Putin sucks up to israel” is bullshit! it is not reality! Israel is Fucked! Why do u think Bibi is in his 3rd try to keep his leadership? If he doesnt what happens to him? He has criminal charges against him! INTELLIGENCE WAR! “Keep your friends close but your enemies even closer”!
            Israel is under control! “Epstein” and “Maxwell” are Mossad Agents! Mossad WAS in control of the CIA (not anymore)! The CIA is mostly clean now! So too the FBI and the DOJ!

            Big shit is about to happen! The problem u have is that u are going to be one of those people who finds out when the rest of the sheep in the world finds out! ure not going to be one of those people (like me) who knew what was occurring! i feel like u are the kind of person who takes pride in “knowing”! im sorry but u know nothing! u know the Official view or the general view! u dont know the hidden or REAL view!

            Forget ur failed patriots! Understand the game and ull understand all! That attack on Saudi Facilities was a US attack on Saudi Arabia! Thats the Truth! Now u need to scramble ur brain to try to understand it or u can reject it because it doesnt make sense to your world view! Im telling u, your world view is wrong!

          • The Objective

            You sound a lot more convincing this time. And I want all you have said to be true. But then, it is difficult to believe anyone these days without some credible evidence. The world today is a labyrinth of disinformation.

            I think the only mistake you make is that you are judging me wrongly. I hate the Iranian regime. I hate Bashar Al-Asad’s regime, I hate China’s predatory exploitation of weaker nations. And I hate America’s policies towards Muslims. And I think Israel got America on a war path with the Muslim world – I mean a nuclear war. If things continue like this, I don’t see how the U.S will avoid a nuclear war within the next five decades.

            I wont dismiss the possibility of truth in all you have said. And yes, I don’t know all these things you talk about, and I am willing to learn. I always like someone challenging what I hold to be true, cos that’s how to learn. But I am far from convinced. I wish you would provide credible sources of information, even in small bits. I think I should be able to connect the dots.

            If half what you say is true, then the world is screwier than I thought.

            but your claim doesn’t quite stack up to current reality. America cannot survive in its present form without the Middle East. By adopting the petrodollar system, America put itself on a constant war path with others. It risks total economic and military collapse should petrodollar collapse. That is why no challenge to the petrodollar goes unanswered. The U.S may be energy independent. But petrodollar will always remain dependent on oil around the world. The U.S already destroyed two countries (Iraq, Libya) to protect the petrodollar system.

          • Justin

            Talking about F-22’s and F-35’s! Ive heard the stories!
            WHAT IF worse stories were told about the SU-57 and STRONG evidence existed to prove it?

            115 units SU-35’s have been built which is an upgrade based on the SU-27! They still look extremely similar to each other (SU-27 and SU-35)

            11 units of SU-57’s have been built! Has all the features the SU-57 has and more! Stealth is not cheap! Supercruise, the whole lot!

            SU-35 = $85 million
            SU-57 = 42 million

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/64b52464384dc0d4b40e0508cadd7fadb62eaaba0bee1c65d9a81f09dad5234f.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2b159bcd6cb3feb19da1cecf23c792bf6cd93ca556aead3c5ab9b1c71fd9c371.png

            An SU-57 is not half the price? Even southfront reported this yet NOBODY blinks and eye when this was announced! The SU-57 used to be priced at $85 to $90 million dollars! Now its suddenly half price? HOW?

            NOW i ask u to bring the same skepticism to this SU-57 price as u do for your doubts with the F-22 and F-35!
            Does this make complete sense? Do u invite doubt after the “engine failure”?
            What has happened?

            Be fair! Dont be biased and favour one thing over another! Try to explore and reveal if u have any bias in your theories, research or beliefs!

          • The Objective

            I don’t really care about weapons systems and I won’t be discussing which plane is the better. The fact is, the U.S is at war with the Shiite Muslim world – a cold war that will soon spiral into a hot one. Yes, they are fighting the Sunni Muslim world too, but with less intensity.

            They killed an influential Iranian general (not that I care). They tried to overthrow the Iranian regime via color revolution (I wish it were successful). They have destroyed Syria (another Shiite stronghold). They are still occupying Iraq to prevent a Shiite seizure of absolute power (A good thing for the Sunnis). And they are trying to cut Hezbollah off from Iran. They have placed more sanctions on Iran than on North Korea, Venezuela, and Cuba combined – actually, more than 1000 sanctions.

            If you insist that the U.S was behind the Houthi attack on Saudi Arabia, then you are implying that the Houthis are under U.S control (they quickly took responsibility for the attack). It follows that America is managing the Yemen war, and arming the Houthis. It means Iran and the U.S are in the same camp in Yemen. If that were true, then the US is trying to destroy the KSA and Ally with Iran. It also means the U.S is trying to destroy Israel too because Iran is the greatest thorn in Israel’s side.

            I want to start seeing some proofs of how the U.S masterminded the September 14th attack.

            And do not forget that if Trump tries to double-cross Israel, he will be assassinated just like JFK.

    • FlorianGeyer

      Yes, and a medical discharge perhaps with a pension for life.

  • now, the americans in the region are all in the crosshairs of the Iranians. they are basically under siege and they could be pulverized at any time depending on the situation. and i can really understand that feeling of vulnerability, that feeling of helplessness. it’s good to see the oppressor getting a taste of their own medicine

    • Jake321

      Last I checked so is all of Iran still right there and in the crosshairs of a couple of very well armed enemies. Who can turn their whole country into a radioactive wasteland if need be. Try to put this in proportional context.

      • Selbstdenker

        Jake, you should inform yourself a bit better. There are war games and excercises regarding a war with Iran. US never wins this. Iran suffers, but so does US. And one should not forget, that US is an outsider without the religiouse background to be treated as a trusted partner in the region. In some countries US is seen as an invader, which presence need to be accepted because of its military power. Don’t expect any “friendly” nation to help US, if a conflict shows the enemy stronger then the US. More probably the “friend” will change sides. Here’s something to consider: https://csis-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/legacy_files/files/publication/090819_GCC_Iran_AirPower.pdf

        • Zionism = EVIL

          The guy is a teenage Jew PUTZ in California and you are debating with him ROFLMAO.

          • Selbstdenker

            Well, at least I try to raise some independent thinking. Maybe he gains so much knowledge, that some day he starts questioning the story he was indoktrinated with by his masters. Then it was worth the effort.

          • Zionism = EVIL

            It is useless my friend, they have one dimensional hasbara lies that are triggered by key words like Iran, Palestine, Gaza, Hezbollah etc.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/287d732a638912a713c58f0a6aa66138b2e9d88f7972a6deba3a22c02eba9406.png

          • Jake321

            And 90% of them are Putz Putin the Poisoner Trolls, mist lying sbout who they are for a Vidka ration and draft deferment.

          • Jake321

            And back at you.

          • Jake321

            You got the California correct. All the rest is your usual bull crap.

        • Jake321

          You need to inform yourself. In an all out war with the US, Iran would no longer be a functioning country and way more Iranians would be dead than in the war with Iraq. And if Israel became part of it, which it likely would, that non-functioning ex-Iran would very likely glow in the dark. You and yours are making the victory lap of the dead. It is great for mostly the Iranian People that both sides blinked…for now.

  • Jake321

    What is no mystery is that Islamist Iran’s top general and a half dozen of his top military buddies are very dead. As are well over a hundred Iranians killed by Islamist Iran’s Key Stone Cops trigger happy Missile men.

    • John Wallace

      You think Iran has finished .. Dreamer !!.. What is the greatest insult and defeat the US can suffer . Withdrawl from the ME.. The cost of that by far exeeds the toll of the Iranians. Time is on the side of Iran. The cost to the US has increased and will continue to rise. You are stupid if you think in Vietnam terms of body counts shows who is winning . McNamara buried himself in data , numbers and body counts losing totally the sight of that war so no one had a fucking clue what was happening until they all had to get out.

      • Jake321

        It’s more than a body bag count when the dead includes the top general and lots of other top military officials. And doesn’t yet seem the US is leaving anytime soon. And you know that Israel, with its couple of hundred mostly thermonuclear missiles, is not leaving. Oh, and will never allow Islamist Iran to even have one. Just the way it is. And then there is the fact that Persian Shi’a Iran is out numbered 10 to one by Sunni Arabs and other Sunnis who hate them.

    • Arch Bungle

      You’ve copy pasted that meaningless line for the 100th time now. Running out of intellectual bandwidth? Clearly so!

      • Jake321

        Not meaningless for the dead Iranians and Islamists.

        • Arch Bungle

          Idiot. Everything is meaningless for dead people.

    • Selbstdenker

      An army, which cannot replace a general is not prepared for war. Iran appointed a new leader, which is even worse for US, as he is affiliated with Afghanistan, and speaks pashtu language as well.

      • Jake321

        So what? The US got the better of the deal even though both sides blinked.

      • Iran puts their high ranking officers on the front line, they have more depth in that dept. In terms of ground game they have us covered. The unknown is do they have anyone else who can interact with their allies as well as Soleimani could, probably but that’s unknown and that’s why we murdered him.

  • Albert Pike

    Must be option 2 – Trump never lies….

    • FlorianGeyer

      Lol.

  • ButtonPlay

    i stopped believing official numers a long time ago

    • Assad must stay

      Same

    • Zionism = EVIL

      Always TRUST ME :)

      • Free man

        TRUST Evil Psycho Zio. LOL.

  • verner

    body bags stuffed with under-educated guys from the fly over states they can live with, after all they are professional soldiers and death is part of the job description, but what trump or mnuchin or pompeo can’t risk is an attack on ras tanura or yanbu (via proxy houthis) or kuwait and a closing of the hormuz strait which would put a spaniard in the works, i.e. the world economy which would be a result if crude goes to 150 or 200 bucks per barrel. a sure way to lose the election for donny the chump.

  • Assad must stay

    hahahaha the missile is haunting them that is too funny US govt is sometimes funnier than even their comedians and late night TV hosts

    • Zionism = EVIL

      The fuckers have lost over 33 dead and 200 suffering menopause and diaper rash as I had said initially.

      • Selbstdenker

        What is still missing is the numbers of contracters affected. It’s not only US military there, but lots of contractors as well. These are never reported by military.

        • Zionism = EVIL

          Also shows you how inept their intel on Iran is. The arseholes had 8 hour warning and did not move their lardass cowards to safer location due to arrogance and hid them in 1980’s era Yugoslav built bunkers that Saddam had. These bunkers even proved vulnerable in the Iran-Iraq war as the Iranian Mavericks easily penetrated them. Now the Iranians are using Mach2 missiles with one ton HE payload, enough to give anyone a mother of all headaches.

  • Xoli Xoli

    Another propaganda by Pentagon.

  • Xoli Xoli

    Trump said there is no injuries.

  • We were so incompetent that even w/3 hrs warning we couldn’t get our troops out of harm’s way or was it arrogance that we didn’t think the Iranians would follow through with a strike or be able to hit the base?

    CNN report (one of the few I believe because they actually went to the base I saw the interviews), troops went to Saddam era bunkers, okay so far, so good. Not enough room for everyone so other troops when into pits designed as shelters against mortar attacks, wtf, better than nothing but totally inadequate for 700lb+ sized warheads.

    Why have any non-essential people remain on the base.

  • Liberal guy

    Why even 109 injured?say “not even one is injured we are an invincible force “u zio chaotic bastard’s

  • Justin

    Why not up the casualty list! Even more reason to kill more Iranian Generals!
    lol
    ill settle for 2000 no probs!
    2000 is a good trade for bombing Iran’s nuclear sites!
    keep the number increasing to garner support!

  • Xoli Xoli

    What is the figure of everyday rising figure of USA soldiers today.

  • cechas vodobenikov

    the media in the anglsphere , where people r unable lot think dialectically of dialogically is only trusted by idiots