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Schismatics Using Unrest In Belarus To Try To Further Divide Moscow Patriarchate

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As it was expected the ongoing ‘soft’ pro-Western coup in Belarus is a step towards the increase of ethnic and religious tensions in the country.

On August 17, Orthochristian.com released the article “Schismatics Using Unrest In Belarus To Try To Further Divide Moscow Patriarchate“:

As protests and political unrest continue to grow in Belarus following the recent presidential elections, the schismatics of the “Orthodox Church of Ukraine” (OCU) and the “Belarusian Autocephalous Orthodox Church” (BAOC) are using the situation to lob accusations at the canonical Belarusian Orthodox Church and call for the Belarusian people to separate from the canonical Church and establish their own group.

On August 13, Epiphany Dumenko, the head of the schismatic OCU addressed the Belarusian people, calling on them to “request a tomos [of autocephaly—O.C.] from the Mother Church,” referring to the Patriarchate of Constantinople, which issued a tomos of autocephaly to the OCU in January last year.

“These days, the people of Belarus are suffering greatly—our neighbors, with whom we have had many centuries of common ecclesiastical and state history … making up a single Kievan Metropolis until 1686,” Dumenko wrote on his Facebook page.

“Its non-canonical annexation by Moscow has had and continues to have tragic consequences for Orthodoxy throughout Eastern Europe,” he continued, referring to the novel interpretation of the transfer of the Metropolis of Kiev from the Patriarchate of Constantinople to the Moscow Patriarchate that undergirds the existence of the OCU.

“With the will of the faithful and with the blessing of our common Mother Church, the Ecumenical Patriarchate, the Church of Ukraine has been established among the Autocephalous Sister Churches. The Orthodox Church of Belarus has the same reasons and right to request a tomos from the Mother Church whenever it wishes,” Dumenko writes.

The OCU cannot but feel compassion “when the future of the Belarusian people, the independence of the state, the freedom and security of citizens and their lives are under threat,” writes the head of the OCU.

However, His Eminence Metropolitan Pavel of Minsk of the canonical Belarusian Church noted in January 2019 that there is no real desire for autocephaly in Belarus, and if it caused so much trouble in Ukraine, it would mean the destruction of the Church in Belarus.

Archbishop Daniel of Pamphylia of the Patriarchate of Constantinople’s Ukrainian Church in America and one of the two exarchs who first invaded Ukrainian Church territory in the summer of 2018 to begin creating the schismatic OCU mocked Met. Pavel for this position, saying that only “people who fear the spiritual growth of their own flock can speak this way.”

On August 14 this year, “Archbishop” Svyatoslav Login of the schismatic BAOC published his own appeal to the Belarusian people, not only calling on them to “protect their freedom of choice and the future of their state,” but also accusing the canonical Belarusian Orthodox Exarchate of un-Christian behavior.

The BAOC was created in America in the second half of the 20th century. Login is its sole bishop, with 3 parishes in America, 1 in Canada, 3 in Australia, and 1 in England. It has no official churches in Belarus, though there are religious communities there.

While the whole civilized world stands with those who “defend their dignity and their voice in the presidential elections in Belarus,” “Unfortunately, not all Christian churches in Belarus support and pray for their people,” Login continues.

“For example, the so-called primate of the Belarusian Exarchate of the ROC (sent from Ryazan, Russia) congratulated the dictator even before the official announcement of the winner of the election (Scripture says, Ye shall know them by their fruits [Mt. 7:16]),” he writes.

In September 2018, Login expressed his support for the autocephaly of the Ukrainian schismatics, as he hopes to also acquire autocephaly for his independent group.

Despite Login’s assertion, prayers are being offered for the Belarusian people and land in every church and monastery of the canonical Church, and Met. Pavel has called on the Belarusian authorities and people to find a peaceful solution to the present crisis.

The Holy Synod of the canonical Belarusian Church made the same call in a statement issued on August 15.

Moreover, the clergy and laity of the Church are busy collecting medicine, food, and hygiene products for those who have been injured and detained during the protests over the past two weeks.

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occupybacon

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JIMI JAMES

Keep mocking the just,watch what happens toi your insolent pro kgbtq ideology,piggy fat drinketh fascist pigs aka ASSFLOGGEDs! Christ is not gay eu-epp p00fters!

occupybacon

But you are gay

JIMI JAMES

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Now thats gay goymboi!

occupybacon

Have you seen the Patriarch JEWELRIES?

Alex

It’s property of the church, how about british crown or their real estates ?

occupybacon

How many times did you see the queen wearing bling blings? Of course decent people do not show off shiny metals despite they are 100 times more rich than the irthodox priests. But they address backward people with medieval mentality. Bling bling = kiss their hands and feet

Jens Holm

I like Gays. They have time for education, they work hard and pay a lot of tax to the rest and makes no children.

AM Hants

Seeing what happened in Ukraine, how has Belarus allowed the insane to kick start regime change using the Shadow Net Internet intelligence Analysis script? When did they allow the US Embassy back into Belarus? Coincidence or what?

occupybacon

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AM Hants

The Georgian gut. Your point?

occupybacon

The Georgian father of all Russians.

Alex

Of all soviet people and your parents too.

occupybacon

Luckily I am not from a soviet republic :)

Ivan Freely

Fake photo.

occupybacon

No, it’s genuine. I made it.

JIMI JAMES

Sure as hell bested nwo/hitler/sorosincest on all accounts to say the very least,fascist!

occupybacon

Please don’t suicide tonight. Wait for tomorrow.

Harry Smith

In fact, Belorussia had to be first, but Lukashenko used all his dictatorial options. After USSR fall, Lukashenko was too obsessed to lose his power because a big part of population was pro Russian and wanted to reunite with Russia. So he bet on Belorussian nationalists in the stupid hope they will equalize the social shift to Russia. So in last 24 years he oppressed any pro Russian movement or politician while nationalists got the carte blanche. But he thought he has situation under control while all those nationalists were controlled by the State Dept trough Polish and Lithuanian NGOs.
And now a big part of Belorussians who studied in the schools controlled by nationalists can think logically. Because since the kindergarten they are brainwashed that the only reason they have no 3 levels house with Bentley and Ferrari in their garage is evil Russia. So to have all of this and even more they need just to get rid of Russia. Quite a perversive logic but they don have other one.
BTW, Yanukovich when he was elected by pro-Russian majority in Ukraine, tried to copy the approach of Lukashenko. He oppressed any pro Russian force in Ukraine while gave carte blanche to nationalists. Now he got what he deserved. And as Lukashenko agreed to new presidential elections, he is cursed to repeat the situation when Yuschenko was elected in Ukraine. Hope Putin won’t let Lukasheko to runaway to Russia and Lukashenko will be judged by rioters.

AM Hants

Hope Belarus sorts itself out, by avoiding the Ukraine scenario.

Harry Smith

There is another serious player everybody forgets about – China. Chinese have invested a lot of money in Belorussia and would support anybody who will guarantee their investments. And current opposition leader is not the one who will guarantee.
It’s kinda 5d chess game.
As for Russia, I don’t think Putin will go further than declaring Russia’s support for democratic processes in Belorussia. I think it will be very convenient for Putin if Belorussia will be ukrainized.

AM Hants

Hallelujah, as Belarus is important to OBAR, is it not?

BMWA1

Yes….maybe look at te official Eng Language site BELTA?

https://eng.belta.by/president/

AM Hants

Thanks for the link. Enjoyed reading the articles.

Harry Smith

You have to be very careful when reading official Belorussian news. Because Lukashenko now must convince the anti Western part of Belorussian electorate that he has full support of Kremlin. I.E. when he talked with Putin he asked if Russia is ready to support Belorussia if it is invaded by West. Putin assured Lukashenko that Russia will join the conflict in case if. While the official Belorussian propaganda broadcasted it as Putin will send troops in Belorussia to keep Lukashenko in power.

Harry Smith

Pardon me, but what is OBAR? As deterioration asset, Belorussia was important until Poseidon was created. Now it’s not crucial and Kremlin can step aside and allow Belorussians make their own choice. They can choose to join Russia as new regions or can turn to the West. Nobody in Kremlin will push them to any direction, as I understand the situation.

AM Hants

One Belt and Road’ project.

Harry Smith

Oh. Sorry I didn’t recognized the abriveature. Anyway, China is an important player in this poker game, at my point.

AM Hants

No problems, I was being lazy using initials. Agree with you about China and thanks for pointing it out.

HiaNd

Why 5d chess?!!?

It is absurd that you mention China as some kind of relevant player with free will (to do what they prefer in Belarus)?!
They do not have that right !
Nobody apart from Russia does.

“Big investment” or not , Belaruse is for Russia what Taiwan is for China!
Off limits for foreign interference.

And nobody (including China) has right to intervene in Belarus without approval of Russia.

occupybacon

Belarussians wouldn’t have bentley and ferrary because they don’t have those natural resources, Russians on the other hand, without those 100 billionaires in Moscow would be closer to UAE and Qatari living standards.

Harry Smith

Do you really think I am stupid enough to believe in this BS? ROFL!

occupybacon

Isn’t Russia the resources riches country in the world? Isn’t she one of the brain-rich also? What makes you stay behind… Let’s say Germany.

Harry Smith

If we will take GDP (PPP) ranking Russia is on 6th place while Germany is on 5th place. Not so big difference.
http://statisticstimes.com/economy/projected-world-gdp-ranking.php
Also you can look at resource rich Australia, Chili or Saudi Arabia they are behind Russia.

occupybacon

Wtf is PPP something made by India to feel better than Japan? :) Btw, why Indians have a better life than Russians?

Harry Smith

Are you sure Japan has no poor people? When you were last time in Japan and in India? BTW, middle class in India lives much better than middle class in your country

occupybacon

I’m not Russian. Lel

Harry Smith

Come on. You are Ukrainian. You f*cked up at “Russia generous soul”.

occupybacon

I think you mixed me with someone else. But it’s a funny expression.

Rhodium 10

Have billonaires in Moscow..but also in Tatarstan, Daguestan, Chechenia, Bashkorkostan,St Petersburg, Yekaterinburg…among others.

occupybacon

How many in total?

Rhodium 10

Ask to Ministry of Economics..

occupybacon

I bet they are more numerous than in USA.

kamalashila

So in last 24 years he oppressed any pro Russian movement o

Bullshit! Lukashenka just suppressed the belarus movements. He and hos family never spoke in belarus language, used only russian.

HiaNd

The conclusion (last sentence) is terrible and total ruin of the 1st part of the excellent, detailed explanation.
What you suggest at the end would be most stupid thing Russia could do (to leave upper hand to Soros paid rioters and let them lynching of Lukhashenko)
I hope that you say that only because you are angry at him and not because you think that to be a solution to the problem..
If Russia would do something like that, that would totally ruin any credibility in Russia.

Harry Smith

I am IT analyst, so it’s a very rare situation when I am angry. All my conclusions are based on logic and objective facts which I can access. The World entered in the stage of the systemic change. It’s not the time for sentiments but for cold rationalism.

HiaNd

Lets agree to disagree.
The way I see it you have said too many bad things.
I just hope that you are not Russian and if you still are….I hope that huge majority is not like you.

If you are Russian you don’t have to be patriotic but you don’t have to be traitor either.

Harry Smith

The majority of Russians doesn’t really care about Belorussians now. Lukashenko made too many anti Russian statements last years, so nobody really considers him pro Russian anymore. And after he detained Russian mercenaries and was published the information about 13 bln USD Belorussian debt the main trend here is: “let those idiots do what they want”.
My colleagues from Moscow have even more radical opinion over Belorussia.

HiaNd

“The majority of Russians doesn’t really care about Belorussians”
If true, than the majority is wrong . And this is not about Lukhashenko who is without importance but about Belarus.
The thing is I will not take you word for granted about anything….

Since you are Russian ( under Anglo-Saxon name) obviously having problems with your Russian identity (if you are ethnic Russian at all, which you claim to be)
Again I do find your declaration that Belarus should turn in another Ukraine, deeply

anti-Russian.

You definitely sound like neo-liberal and they are well known never to be a friends of their own nation.

I am not historian but don’t think that Russian experts claim that Belarus people are of different ethnicity than Russians ( the way you claim them to be).
And if Russians are not interested in destiny of their on people than they are sick nation brainwashed in absence of identity by communist internationalist scourge.

I have no respect for people like you who, have no respect for your own identity.
There is nothing in Russian tradition and identity that is less worthy, specially comparing to Anglo-Saxons. Who are proved to be a global parasites for centuries, from Great Britain to US.

Harry Smith

1. My nickname was already explained several times here. Well, let’s do it again. My nickname remained from the times I participated in all kind of pro gun communities. And these communities are dominated by Americans. My Russian name is very had to read and pronounce for English speaking persons. So I registered the English nickname. That’s all. And of course I won’t change it just because of you.
2. I speak with my colleagues and my friends so it’s not only my opinion about Belorussia.
3. Belorussian population is Russian at the east and mix of Polish and Russian at the west. But now, there are 2 brainwashed generations which considers themselves Belorussian and not Russian. Thanks to Lukasenko.
4. Uprising of Belorussian conscience is very convenient for Putin and his clan. So he did nothing to stop the Belorussification implemented by Lukashenko. Because the mono ethnic Russian state is a disaster for Putin and his clan, at my point of view.
5. I don’t really care about your respect or disrespect. You are just semi anonymous person in the Internet like me or any other participant of the discussion. It’s irrelevant for me to care about your sentiments and vice versa.

HiaNd

“Uprising of Belorussian conscience is very convenient for Putin and his
clan. So he did nothing to stop the Belorussification implemented by
Lukashenko. Because the mono ethnic Russian state is a disaster for
Putin and his clan, at my point of view.”

So you keep repeating already few times similar words!…But you didn’t tell the most important WHY it would be “disaster” for Putin and his “clan” ?!
I want to hear that “point of view” since it is essential to explain the rest of the situation !
If you are right than Putin is criminal (and you already consider him to be it is obvious in your words)

If you are so convinced in your theory about Putin why don’t you say it for fuck sake?
You just express the worst possible accusation and conclude “that is my opinion”

without saying WHAT WAS THE PROBLEM and why Putin prefers disaster !

Harry Smith

Want an explanation? Here it is but prepare for long read. LOL
Russian elites understood that they are not seen by Anglo-Saxons as equal partners after the war of 08.08.08. So only strong and powerful Russia can guarantee their capitals and even their lives. Russia is multi ethnic country with Russian ethnics majority of 2/3 of the Russian population. But most of the members of Putin’s clan are Jews like Rotenberg and Vekselberg or Germans like Miller and Gref. If ethnic Russians will get enough power, the first question will be: why the most of Russian assets are in hands of non Russian ethnics. The most spicy moment is that all these assets were state owned until 1992 and nobody in Russia got enough money to buy some of it. So all these assets are kinda stolen.
And ethnic Russians in modern Russia are kinda white male christians in modern USA. There is the article 282 “for extremism” in the Russian penal code and more than 90% of convicted are ethnic Russians. So Putin, in fact fights on 2 frontlines: outside and inside with Russian nationalists. But the fight of inside is slowed down due to liberal opposition upraise back to 2011. Before the 2011, not me neither most of my friends ever voted for Putin.
Anyway, now ethnic Russians are trapped in Russia because there is no other place we can live as we like. And Putin knows it very well. That’s why he uses all his efforts not to allow any state in the world where Russians could be ethnic majority and could form the country’s ruling elite.
It is kinda wonderful gift for Putin that all Washington policy on Russian direction is controlled by genetical rusophobes for last 50 years. You know, the Eastern socialistic Germany felt not because their ruling elite was weak, but because there was really wealthy and beautiful Western Germany.

Jens Holm

You really live in dark shadows Yourself. It was the Bolsjevicks which collapsed them and its no wonder so many in desperation join nazis and semilars.

If You think so, You are a slow learner, even the Bolsjevics starved and killed million there long time before WW2.

And even when Adolf arrived tha nazis was welcommed and 2 divison of infantery would help Hitler ro remove all communist.

Here You write thieves has to keep whats stolen. Which religion or ideology is that?

https://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/us_embassies.htm

Russia has 4.

AM Hants

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Jens Holm

You are right. You sleep from how things are made as well as unmade and keep Yourself in the dark.

A country includes people. If not its not a country for them, which they exclude and they becomes opposition and some of them becomes extremists.

Communisme in the Kremlin dirty way is extremisme. Zarisme is extremisme. Nazisme is extremisme too. Different versions of Jihadisme are.

Its the same for religion. If things in a country or the world is not well and even many dies, the religions will grow and by that as we see in Russia, Ukraine and Bellarus.

We have seen how it is.Religion was very strong in Poland under communisme by fx Karruselsky. Religion also helped Solidarnost to remove Communisme. Now religion decline, because more and more poles are doing fine. They now are helped by EU as well as Nato instead of being forced to things and plundering.

But at their last election the still poor and undafe was the winners of their elections, but next time things might change.

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AM Hants

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Politolog Externista

lol, help Belarus and destroy NATO operatives. Physically, make them disappear. In Poland and elsewhere. Dont moan. Goodness, schismatics, who cares, Ukropistani mess is a mess, making hysteria wont do anything. US is besieging Russia through its vassal proxies. Media weak psyops and fearmongering wont do. Such headlines remind me of headless chicken run. Or are you trying to fearmonger orthodox christians around the world ? Russians basically waited how all the eastern Europe gets gobbled up in NATO, and complains about thsoe countries … when Russia provided no support. Just as they dont do anything positive when it comes to Belarus, because of their hatred for Lukashenko. I wonder how Putin sees Russias state interest though. Is he betting West will collapse on its own, when taking over Belarus would provide more fuel to the machine. Russians too full of themselves are not helping Belarus because it seems like they only love obedient insignificant vassals, a place Russian establishment put itself in. This would in time alienate anyone from Russia. Belarus seems in much better state than Ukraine. Let Polish psyops skum bleed. If Russia doesnt respond to this as an attack on itself and plays a dead bug, then they will lose out big in international antiwestern support. USA wants their missiles stationed in Belarus. Putin seems to try to appease them the same way as the israelis in Syria. Meaning shooting themselves in the foot and showing how useless they are to any of their ‘allies’.

occupybacon

Nice story, pal. Short on vodka?

Jens Holm

Eastern Europe was stolen into collapsed Neocolonislisme and tanks all the way into west ot Berlin and even closed by concrite walls and barbed wire.Ot has been plundering until that not not worked anymore.

Russia is not there. Ukraine as well as Bellarus do have their own history, which by force and bad luch could not avoid the Russian expansion, which has been visible all around, where Russians belong.

Even Russ is a stolen name from Minsk, Kiev and Novegrod and affiliated with the trade routes to Byzants by their rivers and maybee snow and ice in the wintertime.

You defend.theft and worse then that. The real plundere and non prodoductive was the Bolshevics and Comecon. How can west steal from people, which has that little and ancient production from the old days having tradition for slow lazy bum production and hidden artificial unimplyment.

What is it. Russian cars???? Do Europe need food. No, we have too much.

And why take Bellarus, Ukraine and Russia. Those collapsed do export what we need and we pay the world market prices for it.

And missiles in Ballarus. Haha. Russia now has deployed big missiles in Kaliningrad and Nato is all ariund it Here the result is we as danes so far has had to buy 4 Skud missiles bateries and many smaller ones.

If the threat by the Russians was not there none here would even think of Nato. But Russia have made threats all the way from Finland and down and are agressive in Caucasus. People are pt allowed to be themself but has to be forced into the remaining collapse with it hardly no changes.

And what was it before. Well Denmark had good and open connection to all around the Baltics and even deliered a Russian Tzar Queen. Groucho Marx or whoever tokk over stopped that in a totally unneded civile war, where there only was victims.

As the only one loosing WW1 three times learned those people nothing. he Nazis got everything they needed by Stalin as well as the Baltics and here half of Poland. Hitler could neve have attacked Tjekkoslovakia, Poland, France, Belgium, Holland, Denmark and Norway witout that – So thank You Russia.

I almost only agree in that Lukashenko has been in power because its only 10 millions and even the Arabic Emirates and look a like can see all corners.

Russia deny to see that. If they will remove the disfunctionel parts, they have to divede local and also internationel Governess into many smaller Regions.

Countries all shoud be rules by trust including people and not by some bad controlfreaks as we again see in Moscow replacing almost dead ones looking back at WW2 even feeling they are father and mot´her for the now again free parts of Europe and for that matter Asia.

Harry Smith

Putin will do nothing. He would rather lose Belorussia than obtain a mono ethnic Russian state in the World.

HiaNd

This is by far worst anti-Putin accusation to present date!
And there are plenty on them on this forum.
Do you have at least something to back that up (apart from being non ethnic Russian and not liking Putin)?!

Harry Smith

I am ethnic Russian living in North West Federal District. If you look at retrospective you can see that in last several years Lukashenko lost most of his preferences from Russia. Belorussia even buys oil from USA and not from Russia. Lukashenko crossed the red line when he denied the union between Russia and Belorussia couple of years ago and sold out to Chinese. But even then when Chinese didn’t financed him in the amounts he wanted, Lukashenko started to play with USA and the West. And main actors in Belorussia are China and USA now. Belorussia always was a very toxic asset for Russia but Putin could do nothing because most of ethnic Russians believes that Belorussians are kinda brothers. And it will be a great easing for Putin if there will be the Ukrainian scenario in Belorussia because he would be able to stop wasting money for a useless asset which Belorussia is.

HiaNd

Are you ashamed of being Russian (if you are I don’t want to have anything to do with you!)
Why do you hide behind Anglo-Saxon name….the name of enemies of Russia?!
You have problem being Russian?!

Are you of Anglo Saxon birth? If so…..and that is your name, than you are hardly Russian in my eyes…Even if you are on the paper Russian.

I know all that details you have said and still can’t accept that you have said that Belarus should become another Ukraine!!!
That is totally 100 % anti-Russian !

If you are really Russian than you talk like traitor.

“Belarus even buys oil from USA and not from Russia”
What is wrong with you?

That was only TWO fucking tankers !!! Event of no importance!

That was only symbolic Lukashenko’s kissing arse to Pompeo !!!
The price of US gas and oil is just too high even on discount prices for Belarus!
Lukhashenko was sitting on two chairs and selling to the West and China on and off all the time bargaining hard for Russian extra cheap gas, oil as reward for his betrayal!
So what?!
One must only wait that he runs out of luck and get rid of bastard by putting him in some prison forever. End of story !

He is worse than Janukovich ever was, so no big deal !
That is not the reason that you make totally anti-Russian declarations that more belong to the CIA bot than to the Russian.
So Russians believe that Belorussians are “brothers” but not you(Russian also) ?
What kind of anti Russian are you actually, do tell me?
Why do yo want another Ukraine in Belarus (which is profoundly anti-Russian sentiment)
Are you Russian neo-NAZI, neo-liberal….what are you?
Are you ethnic Russian, do you belong to any religion?

To me Lukhashenko (comparing to you) doesn’t look so bad after all.

Harry Smith
HiaNd

WOW another tanker! So what?!
You are taking me for retarded person?
US – LNG is at least 30% more expensive than regular market price Russian gas!
US oil as well is more expensive so if Lukhashenko wants to buy it he can have it as much as he wants!

But that will only ruin already feeble Belarus economy!

So show those stupid articles to some idiot, not to me !!

I am impressed my dear liberal….I am starting to be sick and tired of your and your colleges from the West comments.
You are all full of it!
Dollar is about to IMPLODE and West is in total DECLINE yet simpletons like you keep going with the same old song forever!
I am not interested in your further comments at all !
I have nothing to learn from you but rubbish !

Harry Smith

Second batch, not another tanker.

HiaNd

Whatever…
That is PR stunt and UNSUSTAINABLE for Belarus as level of spending….can last only short period of time.

Jens Holm

Its a normal reaction in crisis people go back to too much religion in bad times. Here we have a sekular collapse with hardly any progress.

The only solution is to make sekular progress by sensible solutions for the future. Number one is cleaning bad things away as corruption as well as “bad” crime. Maybee and easy way id hailing all with golden teeth:)

But the importance in this is creating jobs by investments and pay people relative well, so they like it.

I am sure many in Syria in desperation has become mercnairies because they had no other choise to keep themselves a live. They became oppisition because they had no job. When they told it to Assads, it as usualwas ignored and they even got jailed or worse for it.

By that the opposition to Assad became united in removing themselves and get armed themself. There never was so many socalled Jihadists in Syria until they finally organized themself by extreme religion and for that matter moderate Marxisme.

Its the same for fx Ukraine and the rest in East. As long as the sekular part dont work, You will get too many Nazis as well as Communists in nicer clothe. It makes no sense to remove them unless You have something better.

Unfortunatly it for Ukraine as well as Bellarus seemes to be very difficult to do small changes. In some movie it had a name “They shoot horses”, dont they…

Its the same for Damaskusm Beirut, parts of the Turkish rule and also most of the Bagdad rule. Russia has not regained. They dont create vitale things for vital changes. People are kept in dark and the ones which find light are removed.

occupybacon

Belarus is a country that keeps the communist traditions: the families and relatives if the KGB, colaborationists, police are priviledged, they get the best jobs in the countries. Basicaly if your father works for KGB you get better grades in school. A system that Maduro implemented in Venezuela too, that’s why this countries will never have a competitive economy and will be very exposed to external sabotage.

Alex

Last time i checked, kids of the wealthy people in the west also get better treatment in universities than the normal poor ones. Especially the ones that donate large ammount of money to the institutions.

occupybacon

Yes, they are doing something useful for the society, not just kissing a politician ass.

Jens Holm

Yes Alex and most countries and educations are not free as Ours, but You instead of the everlasting poor and rich should see how many of them, which gets a well paid job and therefore pays a lot tax.

And also should be tempted to see how many in socialisme instead of kapitalisme actually are educated, gets a job and pay high tax.

You forget the middle class is vry big and contribute a lot. Most of them are ecucated two to 4 years and years later upgrades because they now can pay by themself or the ones having emplpyed them pay for it and after that extra salery.

Its very different to compare, because countries are so different.

About donations You should understand, that every time people donate they also keep Our tax down and help more then their own daughters and sons.

JIMI JAMES

Your version of economy only ends in debt,the biggest scabs are eu-epp-usa nations!

occupybacon

We have plenty of debt, never pay it. Russia has sanctions, can’t take loans anymore. No debt, no progress. Debt is priviledge.

Jens Holm

Eastern Europe was Western Gulag.

JIMI JAMES

Western europe homosexuality is now western gulag so leave belarus alone,frgn sick genitiles!

Jens Holm

We have no problems with homosexuals but the ones, which cant accet the fact, that some 10% are different minorities as a genetic fact. Its exact the same in the whole world.

Homosexuals are fine people. They makes no children and by that are good taxpayers as well.

Leave Bellarus alone Yourself. The Bellarussians has not decided themself for many years. I am for they do. I dont care about Bellarus. EU and Nato dont need them at all.

But they have the right to learn and connect partly from the Russian collapse. I support free speech so they can learn and devellop by choise.

cechas vodobenikov

false Jenny—far more homosexuality in anglophone, nordic nations than any other–u insecure little girls r racist and inferior–u r collapsing in debt and extreme poverty—Russia none–dk like your colonial master USA a great deal—more wealth.income disparities…u r underdeveloped and backwards having lost all your territory to Sweden, Norway, Germany–where the Nazis occupied your nazi nation

kamalashila

close all religons.

AM Hants

There is a good article, over on Stalker Zone, giving a good take on why Poland and Lithuania are sizing up Belarus for their own gains.

‘Events In Belarus Are A Coincidence, I Think Not’.

‘Poland, Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine – with Poland and Lithuania using Belarus and Ukraine, as colonies to sell goods. Poland eyeing up a land grab from both nations. Rzeczpospolita – Sea to Sea’.

One of the reasons Poland is against Nord Stream II. It does not fit into her plans to take control of the whole landsite, between the seas.

Plus, I guess Poland has no idea Belarus, Ukraine and Russia have never ratified their borders in accordance with international law, since the fall of the Soviet Union, back in 1991. The borders are only recognised, whilst the 3 nations are part of the CIS. The European borders of Ukraine and Belarus have been ratified, which should rule out Poland retrieving Galacia territory.

Plus, Poland the largest debtor nation in the EU, will have to start paying back the EU gifts, from next year. Which is why Poland is looking to leave the EU. She is so used to the begging bowl being full, how will Poland cope with nobody paying the bills?

JIMI JAMES

Maybe these fake priests n bishops of satans ought to pukk their heads off one anothers asses admit
neo-liberal democracys and their vile kgbtq sects are the greatest threat to eastern europeans not the real deal orthodox christian fellowship,but no! Here is another wasted space,like fkoff satanic parasite!

AM Hants

It is interesting, how Maccron (how are the Yellow Vest protests) and Merkel have both phoned President Putin. He kindly warned them, Belarus and Russia, owing to their defence partnership, are there for each other. Warning them, if they decide to force things with Belarus, they will also be dealing with Russia. Will be nothing like the Ukraine nightmare, which tied Russia’s wrists.

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