Salisbury Nerve Agent Attack Reveals $70 Million Pentagon Program At Porton Down

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Salisbury Nerve Agent Attack Reveals $70 Million Pentagon Program At Porton Down

Signs prohibiting access near to the Porton Down Defence Science and Technology Laboratory, near Salisbury, Britain, March 19, 2018. © Peter Nicholls / Reuters

Dilyana Gaytandzhieva is a Bulgarian investigative journalist and Middle East Correspondent. Over the last two years she has published a series of revealing reports on weapons smuggling. Two months ago South Front published her investigation into the Pentagon bio laboratories in 25 countries across the world. Her current report provides an overview of the Pentagon-funded experiments at the secretive UK military laboratory Porton Down near Salisbury, where an ex-Russian spy and his daughter were allegedly poisoned with a nerve agent.

By Dilyana Gaytandzhieva exclusively for SouthFront

Twitter/@dgaytandzhieva

The Pentagon has spent at least $70 million on military experiments involving tests with deadly viruses and chemical agents at Porton Down – the UK military laboratory near the city of Salisbury. The secretive biological and chemical research facility is located just 13 km from where on 4th  March  former Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia were found slumped on a bench following an alleged Novichok nerve agent poisoning.

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The Porton Down Lab is located just 13 km from the site where Sergei Skripal and his daughter were found and from where they were rushed to hospital.

Information obtained from the US federal contracts registry reveals that the Pentagon’s Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) has funded a number of military projects performed at the UK Defence Science and Technology Laboratory (DSTL), or Porton Down, over the last decade. Among them: experimental respiratory infection of non-human primates (marmosets) with Anthrax, Ebola virus, Marburg virus, Venezuelan equine encephalitis virus, Western equine encephalitis virus, and Eastern equine encephalitis virus. The US Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) has also funded experiments on animals which were exposed to chemical agents such as Sulfur Mustard and Phosgene gas. Phosgene gas was used as a chemical weapon during World War I where it was responsible for about 85 % of the 100,000 deaths caused by chemical weapons.

DTRA has also been granted full access to DSTL scientific and technical capabilities, and test data under a 2011 contract for the collaboration and exchange of scientific and technical capabilities with the UK Ministry of Defence.

At least 122,000 animals used for military chemical and biological experiments at Porton Down

Animal experiments are classified as confidential in the UK. Under section 24 of the Animals (Scientific Procedures) Act 1986, it is a criminal offence to disclose certain information about animal experiments in the UK.

Data obtained via the Freedom of Information Act though gives an idea of the dimensions of military chemical and biological experiments carried out at Porton Down. A total of 122,050 animals have been exposed to deadly pathogens, chemicals and incurable diseases over the last decade (2005-2016).

Salisbury Nerve Agent Attack Reveals $70 Million Pentagon Program At Porton Down

Monkeys being used in warfare agent testing at Porton Down in the past

Animals used include mice, guinea pigs, rats, pigs, ferrets, sheep, and non-human primates. Some of the deadly experiments have been sponsored by the Pentagon under contracts between DSTL and DTRA. Scientists at Porton Down have infected, or poisoned, animals in order to measure time to death and lethal dose of exposure. In practice, the possible use of the researched virus/chemical gas as a weapon.

Salisbury Nerve Agent Attack Reveals $70 Million Pentagon Program At Porton Down

Marmoset monkeys are experimentally infected at Porton Down with Ebola, Anthrax, Marburg Virus and other deadly pathogens. Scientists measure time to death and lethal dose of exposure to the bio agent. Photo credit: Vic Pigula

Ebola as bioweapon

12 Marmoset monkeys were experimentally infected with the Ebola virus, via aerosol, at Porton Down under a Pentagon-funded project – Experimental respiratory infection of marmosets with Ebola virus Kikwit (the Zaire strain of the Ebola virus which killed more than 245 people in Zaire, now Democratic Republic of Congo, in 1995). The project was part of a $6.3 million DTRA program running at Porton Down from 2012 to 2016 – Development of common marmoset models for category A/B pathogens and product evaluation in marmosets.

Salisbury Nerve Agent Attack Reveals $70 Million Pentagon Program At Porton Down

Source: Experimental Respiratory Infection of Marmosets (Callithrix jacchus) With Ebola Virus Kikwit, The Journal of Infectious Diseases, Volume 212, 1 October 2015

The experiment’s stated goal was to measure the lethal dose of exposure and time to death meaning that the Ebola virus Kikwit was researched for its potential as a bioweapon. All infected marmoset monkeys died from 6 to 10 days after exposure to the Ebola virus.

The Pentagon also funded studies on the deadly Marburg virus:  a $2.6 million projectExperimental respiratory Marburg virus haemorrhagic fever infection in the common marmoset, and another $1.4 million project – Marburg virus model development, which were undertaken at Porton Down in 2017. This virus causes viral hemorrhagic fever and is listed as a Category A Bioterrorism Agent. All infected monkeys died from 8 to 10 days. The aim of the studies was to examine the dose and time to death for animals exposed to aerosolized Marburg virus.

Salisbury Nerve Agent Attack Reveals $70 Million Pentagon Program At Porton Down

Source: Experimental respiratory Marburg virus haemorrhagic fever infection in the common marmoset (Callithrix jacchus), International Journal of Experimental Pathology

Under another $4.8 million project, funded by DTRA, Porton Down scientists along with the Pentagon contractor Mapp Biopharmaceutical tested Susceptibility and lethality of Western Equine Encephalitis Virus in mice when infected by the aerosol route. Mapp Biopharmaceutical is an American pharmaceutical company, which has developed an Ebola vaccine from the tobacco plant. According to the study, aerosol infection is the likely route of exposure to Western Equine Encephalitis Virus in a biowarfare scenario.

12 Marmoset monkeys were infected with anthrax at Porton Down during an experiment funded by the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA). The study, Experimental respiratory anthrax infection in the common marmoset (Callithrix jacchus), aimed at determining the lethal dose needed to kill 50% of the animals or the so called LD50 indicator. The value of LD50 for a substance is the dose required to kill half the members of the tested population after a specified test duration. Six of the monkeys died from anthrax from 40 to 140 h.

Salisbury Nerve Agent Attack Reveals $70 Million Pentagon Program At Porton Down

Source: Experimental respiratory anthrax infection in the common marmoset (Callithrix jacchus), US National Library of medicine

Chemical agent tests

British military scientists were funded by DTRA to perform Chemical Agent system testing as part of a $39.7 million Pentagon program (2012-2017) at Porton Down. Documents prove that the US Department of Defense Agency – DTRA funded animal experiments with chemical agents at the secretive British military lab.

In 2016 Porton Down scientists along with their colleagues from the US Army Medical Research Institute of Chemical Defense published the results of a joint study Acute Gene Expression Profile of Lung Tissue Following Sulfur Mustard Inhalation Exposure in Large Anesthetized Swine. According to the funding information, this work was supported by two contracts with the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (US Department of Defense). During the experiment at Porton Down 16 pigs were exposed to mustard gas for about 10 minutes, at 12 h post exposure the animals were killed (three of them died during the experiment due to complications) and a full post-mortem examination performed in order to determine the lung damage caused by the sulfur mustard inhalation.

Sulfur mustard  is a chemical warfare agent that was first used on the battlefield in World War I. It has been classified as a Class 1 human carcinogen, meaning that it can also cause cancer. Mustard agents were regulated under the 1993 Chemical Weapons Convention as substances with no use other than in chemical warfare.

The last use of Sulfur mustard in battle was confirmed in Syria in 2016. According to the BBC, Islamic State (ISIS) jihadists used mustard gas against government forces in Deir-ez-Zor. The same chemical gas was confirmed to have been used by ISIS against Kurds in Northern Iraq. According to The Independent, the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) confirmed that laboratory tests had come back positive for sulfur mustard, after around 35 Kurdish troops fell sick on the battlefield in August 2015.

Salisbury Nerve Agent Attack Reveals $70 Million Pentagon Program At Porton Down

Iraqi soldiers captured a cache of chemical weapons  from ISIS in Qayarah, Iraq, the rockets tested positive for sulfur mustard, October 2016. (Source: Ed Alexander/BLACKOPS Cyber)

According to information obtained from the US Federal contracts registry, Porton Down scientists 5 months ago completed a $ 2 million military program involving chemical gas experiments on animals. This program was funded by the US Department of the Army on behalf of the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Chemical Defense (USAMRICD) and was launched in 2008 and further extended in 2012. The work on the program included Phosgene Gas tests. Amongst them – Continued Model Development to Establish Reproducible Phosgene Injury at 24 Hours. According to the program documents, the purpose was to monitor the development of acute lung injury following phosgene exposure. Phosgene gas was used extensively as a chemical weapon, most notably during World War I.

Coincidence: Guinea pigs at Porton Down and at the home of the poisoned ex-spy

Tests using nerve agents VX and VM on guinea pigs were  carried out at Poton Down in 2015. The project was funded by the UK Ministry of Defence. Interestingly, ginea pigs were also found at Sergei Skripal’s home in Salisbury, just a few kilometers away from the secretive chemical and biological military lab. A photo of the Skripals’ pets – a cat and guinea pigs, was posted by his daughter Yulia on Facebook.

Salisbury Nerve Agent Attack Reveals $70 Million Pentagon Program At Porton Down

Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia, photos: Facebook

Salisbury Nerve Agent Attack Reveals $70 Million Pentagon Program At Porton Down

Guinea pigs were found in the house of the poisoned ex-spy in Salisbury, just a few kilometers away from Porton Down, where such guinea pigs were used for nerve agent chemical tests.

In a 2015 report to the UK parliament the UK Ministry of Defence does confirm the use of animals for military chemical and biological experiments. The ministry states: “DSTL is proud to deliver cutting-edge science and technology for the benefit of national defence and security. Part of its work is to provide safe and effective countermeasures against the threat posed by chemical and biological weapons and to enhance the treatment of conventional casualties on the battlefield, which could not currently be achieved without the use of animals”.

Porton Down scientists test chemical gas on London Tube passengers

Chemical gas was released on thousands of unsuspecting commuters during a military experiment on the London Underground, documents reveal. These chemical tests were performed in 2013 by scientist from Porton Down.

Salisbury Nerve Agent Attack Reveals $70 Million Pentagon Program At Porton Down

Porton Down scientists released chemical gas on the London Underground in 2013.

The UK government never informed the British public of the military experiment on the London Underground. Thousands of people were exposed to chemical gas without their knowledge. Nor did the Ministry of Defence ask for their consent to participate in such military experiments. Information about the project can be obtained from a 2016 US Department of Homeland Security (DHS) document entitled Environmental Assessment of Proposed NYC Subway Tracer Particle and Gas Releases for the Underground Transport Restoration Project.

Salisbury Nerve Agent Attack Reveals $70 Million Pentagon Program At Porton Down

5 PFTs, SF6 and Urea were released on the London Underground in 2013 in the form of liquid aerosol droplets. Source: US Department of Homeland Security (DHS)

The document provides information about other programs running in the USA and UK from 2005 to 2016. Among them are the London Underground chemical trials. They were conducted by the Defense Science and Technology Laboratory (DSTL), also known as Porton Down.

Information obtained from the UK government contracts registry confirms that Porton Down scientists conducted a study involving access to the London tube under a 3-year contract with the London Underground (2011-2014). The content of the project is not specified though.

According to the contract documents, the London Underground cannot communicate “on these matters with any media representative unless specifically granted permissions to do so. In the event that the Contract becomes classified the Contractor must safeguard information. Before publishing information to the general public, Porton Down may redact any information that would be exempt from disclosure if it was the subject of a request for information under the Freedom of Information Act”.

Salisbury Nerve Agent Attack Reveals $70 Million Pentagon Program At Porton Down

The London Underground is prohibited from public disclosure of information about the Porton Down project without permission, according to the contract documents. Source: data.gov.uk

The controversial military laboratory was investigated for chemical and biological experiments on humans in the past. Up to 20,000 people took part in various trials from 1949 to 1989. In 2008, the UK Ministry of Defence paid 360 veterans £3 million without admitting liability.

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Ronald George Maddison  was a twenty-year-old Royal Air Force engineer who died while undergoing tests with sarin at Porton Down in 1953,  according to declassified military documents.

Powder dissemination of chemical or biological agents

Presently Porton Down scientists produce and test dissemination of biological and/or chemical agents as they did in the past, documents from the UK government contracts registry reveal. Although the information is redacted, it still raises questions as to why the UK military needs to develop a new technique for dissemination of chemical or biological agents via the inhalational route. A private contractor – Red Scientific Ltd, was awarded a £50,000 contract in 2012 “to explore techniques that could be used to manipulate the flow ability of dry powders, principally to understand the delivery of solid particulate by inhalation, and to apply a variety of innovative powder manipulation techniques to a specific irritant powder (provided by DSTL)”.  If the work in 2012/13 proves to be successful there is potential for a second phase to be pursued in 2013/14 examining other powder materials with the same techniques, the contract documents reveal.  The project’s stated goal is marked improvement in the efficiency of aerosolisation over current techniques used at DSTL.

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DSTL has awarded a private contractor to explore more advanced techniques for powder dissemination of chemical/biological agents. Source: data.gov.uk

DSTL has also tested dissemination techniques in wind tunnels. A private company – NIAB Trading Ltd, was awarded a £12,020 contract to provide facilities and expertise to assist with wind tunnel assessments.

Such experiments involving the release of bacteria were conducted in the UK in the past during the joint UK-US military operation DICE. A declassified US Army document reveals that a series of 24 field trials took place off the coast of Portland and in Lyme Bay in the UK in 1975. Each field trial involved the spraying of massive bacterial aerosols from a converted Land Rover. Although the US and UK joined the UN Conventions on the prohibition of chemical and biological weapons, documents prove that their military programs have never ended.

Salisbury Nerve Agent Attack Reveals $70 Million Pentagon Program At Porton Down

Porton Down scientists conducted field tests in 1956. The masks on their faces allowed the collection of warfare simulants which had been sprayed from aircraft. Photo credit: Imperial War Museums

US official lied in Brussels about the Pentagon biolaboratories

Robert Kadlec, Assistant Secretary at the US Department of Health, categorically denied the existence of an American bio-weapons program at a seminar on the threat of biological and chemical weapons. The event was organized by the European Parliament on 7th March in Brussels. Asked why the information about the US military bio-laboratories in 25 countries bordering on Russia, China and Iran (the Pentagon’s main rivals) is classified, Kadlec responded: “They are not classified, they are openly available to anyone who wants to look at them.”

(full video of Robert Kadlec’s comment here)

https://www.facebook.com/dilyana.gaytandzhieva/videos/10215417002600829/

Documents about the Pentagon offshore bio-laboratories prove him wrong though.

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According to the 2005 Agreement between the US DoD and the Ministry of Health of Ukraine the Ukrainian government is prohibited from public disclosure of sensitive information about the US program. The Pentagon has been operating 11 biolaboartories in Ukraine.

Porton Down is just one of the Pentagon-funded military laboratories in 25 countries across the world, where the US Army produces and tests man-made viruses, bacteria and toxins in direct violation of the UN convention. These US bio-laboratories are funded by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) under a $ 2.1 billion military program– Cooperative Biological Engagement Program (CBEP), and are located in former Soviet Union countries such as Georgia and Ukraine, the Middle East, South East Asia and Africa.

The Pentagon-funded military facilities are not under the direct control of the host state as the US military and civilian personnel is working under diplomatic cover. The local governments are prohibited from public disclosure of sensitive information about the foreign military program running on their own territory. Without being under the direct control of the host state, these Pentagon bio-laboratories put the health of the local population at risk and must be closed.

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  • Skripal was an asset of the Clinton Crime Family. With investigations underway he became a liability. Like Seth Rich and so many others.

    • jerry hamilton

      This wont get in the MSM.

      • Starlight

        WRONG- in the ‘proper’ newspapers like ‘The Times’ (of London as the yanks say) and The Guardian’, true facts and skepticism are reported in the middle pages where few bother to read, for future PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY. It is the headlines and front page stories that must carry the laughable bias and censorship.

        Britain is not some third world crap-hole where dictators like Erdogan imprison citizens for daring to mock him. Britain encourages the riff-raff to laugh at their ‘betters’- for perfect psychological reasons. And the better british press almost always contains most of the truth somewhere at some time- but ensures the coverage is swamped in the direction the Deep State wants.

        Non-anglo-saxon fools can never get over free speech in the USA, or political satire in the UK. They always dribble “a true boss would never let his lessers diss him”. This is why BRITAIN and british culture rules the world, and not Russian, or french or spanish.

        The Deep State is such a threat to greater Humanity precisely because it has the british brain. Expert at manipulation, psychology and propaganda. Expert at seeming reasonable while carrying out the very worst atrocities. The worst war crimes of WW2 were british, not German nor Japanese (the firebomb destruction of whole cities of civilians that britain perfected out-trumps even the worst acts of the Axis). Yet MI5 can bang out ‘Dunkirk’ last summer at the cinema, and everyone sobs “those poor brave brits”.

        Our side loses cos it is as simple-minded as british psy-op masters can persuade it to be. Please, they say, use all the cheap insults your tiny brains can muster.

        PS the BBC itself has ran many many stories with witnesses detailing the many crimes of Porton Down in the past. No-one in Britain is unaware of Britain’s poison gas programs. Every other year the press in Britain makes a big deal about islands around the UK still poisoned by the Anthrax Churchill had manufactured to use during WW2.

        The TRUTH is successfully weaponised by any half decent psy-op team. That’s the very first thing psy-op trainees are taught. So when Russian dribblers think the truth about Porton Down will have ANY impact, they play perfectly into the hands of the british.

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        • schiamachy

          I think you have forgotten that the context of any act can define how the subject is seen by the general public. In the context of overblown indignation without furnishing any truth as has occurred at Salisbury the public will be more likely to become inflamed and especially as this story records that Porton Down scientists have carried out secret trials in London’s underground.
          It will damage the trust by the public in the government.

          • Ruprecht Mudorc

            Damage any remaining trust further, I thing you might mean..

        • jerry hamilton

          It’s not in the main news yet.
          How long do I have to wait?

        • JIMI JAMES

          You are just another racist wanker,go to ye lice infested lgbt gaybar where you belong libtard just look at how you treat animals like christians and for who ye nazi master who can’t sell sht from it’s blanket?
          FK YOU LOSER,NO FKN WONDER TURNBULL IS A RACIST PHAEDO GIMP!

          CCCP ENDEC WW2 FKHED,WHATS YE PROBLEM,NOT ENOUGH COCAINE?

        • Arn Jim Durand

          Yes Britain’s not a third world crap-hole, it’s a first world crap-hole.

      • AM Hants

        So needs sharing, far and wide, even if the MSM avoid the story.

        • jerry hamilton

          How would you do that? The greater sheeple majority are addicted to jewnews.

          • AM Hants

            However there are many of us that are waking up and communicating.

    • Starlight

      Only zionist agents dribble conspiracy theories about Skripal’s recent life- and all as a SMOKESCREEN hiding the truth.

      MI5/6 (the actual names of intelligence agencies in the UK don’t matter- in reality they are all the same, unlike in the USA) simply chose Skripal as the best candidate for their false-flag.

      Like the Libyan Embassy shooting false flag that killed a policewoman to gain the interest and sympathy of the british public, a policeperson had to be directly ‘injured’. His daughter likewise proved the inhuman nature of the Russian assassins, and also a direct Russian connection since she, unlike her father, lived in Russia.

      MI5 concocts the STORY first,and THEN recruits the actors. That’s how true experts handle psy-ops. British intelligence perfected these methods running circles around the nazis during WW2. Did you know, for instance, that Churchill’s most famous radio speeches were written by BBC drama writers and spoken by a BBC voice impersonator? Churchill was such a coward, he legged it to a safe country retreat whenever he heard German bombers were likely to strike London. And at the time BBC made its evening broadcasts, Churchill was always too drunk to speak publicly anyway. Churchill was an IDEA put together by british psy-op experts when he took power to fight WW2. The man himself was a pathetic alcoholic who could be trusted to do nothing by himself at his advanced age.

      Britain is more dangerous than any of you here can comprehend. Britain does not fight with its fists- the fists of the USA do very nicely when blunt force is needed. Britain fights with its brain. And that brain is dirty and devious and clever beyond all conception.

      It is a british psy-op to present current PUPPETS like May and Johnson as the sub-normal clowns they are, so you’ll draw an incorrect conclusion as to the actual potential of those who really rule the UK.

      The day before Trump even expelled Russian UN personal from NY (illegal under the UN treaties), the Russian embassy was so clueless, it even directly asked Trump to interceed with the British. America is really Britain II, built by transfering astonishing amounts of the wealth Britain gathered from its Empire to the USA AFTER the so-called ‘revolution of independence’. Without Britain’s Empire wealth, America could never have grown the way it needed to, before becoming economically independent AFTER WW1.

      Blair was never anyone’s ‘poodle’, but is actually king of the Fabians- the ‘ingsoc’ of Orwell’s 1984. Today the three main political parties in Britain are all in the hands of Blair loyalists. In the House of Commons the Conservatives, Liberals and Labour all work together to ensure new Blair police state and warmongering laws are given the approval of both Houses. Blair’s supremacy in the UK makes Putin’s supremacy in Russia seem like a joke by comparison.

      Once a person reaches real power in the UK, it is a perfect psy-op to have that person MOCKED in the public press, so the public cease to worry about the power that person actually wields. LAUGHTER defuses emotional pressure. When british peeps laff at Blair, they stop fearing him and his deeds- which means they will not attempt to throw up real opposition to him.

      Likewise you’ll see the zionists here use terms like ‘bumbling’ and ‘lies’ and ‘incompetence’ and ‘laughable’ to describe the details and handling of the most successful false flag in Human History. Are you stupid enough to think british intelligence needs your ‘respect’ to function perfectly? What they need is for you to buy the narrative they sell. In this case the narrative is “this was anything BUT a perfect false flag by the british”

    • trembler

      And how is Skripal an asset of the “Clinton Crime Family”? Surely you have some sources to back up this claim. Thanks.

      • jerry hamilton

        Google it. There is loads of info.

        • trembler

          That’s exactly the problem. The only thing that comes up is one article from pro Kremlin tinfoil conspiracy website The Duran, which is not a reliable source at all and doesn’t provide any further sources either. Maybe Richard M has better sources to back up his claims.

      • I won’t spam you with dozens of links, but here’s one, then you can just google “Skripal/Clinton” for more. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/07/poisoned-russian-spy-sergei-skripal-close-consultant-linked/

        • trembler

          Ok, thanks, that seems to be the only vaguely reliable link out there and all it says is that Skripal worked as a security consultant for a company that also employed Christopher Steele at one time. How do you get from that to “Skripal was an asset of the Clinton Crime Family”? The Telegraph article says nothing to support that claim.

      • Mike from Ramsbottom

        The information is out there Trembler! We read that Skripal contributed to the Steele Dossier by providing the names of real Russian governmental organisations and the names of some of the influential people in those organisations to back up the made-up stories which Christopher Steele was writing. I am sure that Mrs Clinton would not want Skripal to be summoned to Washington to give evidence about that.

  • Real Anti-Racist Action

    War-criminal-Winston made sure the UK-Empire launched thousands of chemical attackes targeting Monotheist across the Middle East before the first World War ever began and After.
    War-criminal-Winston made sure Christians and Sunni and Shia died by them many tens of thousands.
    His goal was the genocide of Monotheist to make rook for what he believed was the coming Jewish Master Race.
    He also believe that indigenous Germanic tribal peoples were inferior, and were to be ethnically cleansed from their own indigenous tribal lands and were to be replaced with Jew’s.
    http://ihr.org/
    https://dailystormer.name/

    • jerry hamilton

      Will you please stop calling Winston Churchill a war criminal.
      Since he is the person responsible for the most deaths on planet Earth, even mass murderer doesn’t seem appropriate. Think of something bigger.

      • Bengal Famine of 1943. 2+ million starved to death on Churchill’s orders. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_famine_of_1943#March_1942:_Denial_policies

        • AlexanderAmproz

          There is a link for the forgotten Bangladeshi Holodomors

          The article is in French, but the Photos are explicites !

          Propagande et Holodomors oubliés
          https://www.agoravox.fr/tribune-libre/article/propagande-et-holodomors-oublies-180294

          • Henry Kissinger tried to equal Churchill’s crimes by moving a US Carrier Battle Group to the Bay of Bengal in 1971 to block India from stopping the Pakistani genocide of Bengalis.

        • Sinbad2

          The Gallipoli campaign.
          My mother, who endured the London blitz used language that shocked me, to describe Churchill.

        • jerry hamilton

          The Bengal Famine is nothing compared to Churchill’s constant rejections of Hitlers peace proposals.
          That alone was 20M+
          To say WW2 would not have happened if Churchill did not demand it is wrong.
          Churchill was the corruptible puppet that said WAR.
          If he didn’t, the war makers would have found someone else.

      • Starlight

        Context is everything. Churchill was a monster in an age of monsters- and why? Because of the jewish pseudo-science of ‘race’ from the early 19th century (to justify slave trade that the jews essentially controlled in the West AND Arab nations), that later morphed into the pseudo-science of EUGENICS from the late 19th century.

        Many cretins bought into these jewish lies, even when they hated jews (as did Churchill). Jewish eugenics taught that one could murder any number of ‘inferior’ Humans so long as you intended to breed ‘superior’ Human replacements. The jews, of course, trusted that THEY would be seen as ‘superior, and not ‘inferior’, and thus were quite suprised when they became victims of their own racist philosophy during WW2.

        The leaders of both sides of WW2 had no issue with entire ‘outdated’ cities filled with ‘obsolete’ lessers being wiped out. They could, and would be rebuilt- better for the new age. And woman paid to breed to refill them. Germany still pays women today to breed (go google- it’s true).

        So Churchill was a Deep State puppet, chosen for his previous ‘character’ – but it was the Deep State, totally fabian influenced on all sides, that had no qualms about a war that would see so many Humans die.

        And today the fabians have MORE power and influence than they did during WW2. But while fabians think they control the Deep State, actual anti-life demons do. Blair is king of the fabians but he is also one of the demons.

        PS the crimes of leaders at the time of WW2, and the ‘relative’ peace on the Earth since, especially in the light of nuclear weapons, is used to sell fools on the idea that we are now ‘safe’ for monsters like Churchill, Stalin and Hitler are long in the ground. The ‘bad’ guys are behind us, and even at their worst, present leaders are really mostly benign.

        That is why the Deep State LOVES it when people abuse Churchill- it makes it look like the real danger has passed.

        • AlexanderAmproz

          John Bolton and Disarmament through War

          John Bolton, an extreme right-wing militant acting under the protection of Dick Cheney, was an insignificant undersecretary of State of Bush Senior’s Administration and expected a promotion under Bush junior’s administration. An advocate of the dissolution of the UN, he also favored the dissolution of the international disarmament treaties and encouraged the U.S. to launch “preventive” wars to control the Islamic or communist countries, beginning with Iraq, Syria and North Korea.

          John R. Bolton was born on November 20, 1948 in Baltimore and at the university he was already a right-wing militant. He was also a member of Barry Goldwater’s campaign in 1964. Once he got his Law degree at Yale University, he started to work for a law firm and met Jesse Helms. He used his legal skills to found a parliamentary club that would be used to finance the North Carolina racist senator’s campaign by avoiding the law on political donations. For this, he was only given a $10 000 fine by the Federal Electoral Commission (FEC).

          During Reagan’s first term, Bolton was appointed adviser to the US Agency for International Development (USAID). After that, he returned to his law firm and then again to the USAID as deputy administrator of programs and political coordination. In 1989, Edwin Messe, named Secretary of Justice by Ronald Reagan, appointed Bolton deputy to the Justice Department, as suggested by Senator Jesse Helms. Then, he conscientiously wrote off all instructions pertaining to drug dealing on the Iran-Contra case in which republican congressmen were involved. This marked the beginning of his political career. During George H. Bush presidency, he became first Secretary of State James Baker III’s assistant for intergovernmental organizations and then Lawrence S. Eagleburger’s.

          When democrats returned to the White House with Bill Clinton, John Bolton quit and joined a law firm he founded with some associates: Lerner, Reed, Bolton & McManus. He especially strengthened his ties with Dick Cheney, the leader of the Republican Party. In 1995, John R. Bolton accepted the presidency of the National Policy Forum (NPF), a product of the Party with think tank façade (a usually political center of research, propaganda and spreading of ideas), free of taxes, which actually collected secret funds [1].

          Due to a bank complicity, the Party got loans amounting to million of dollars from Forum that were never refunded. It especially benefited from Ambrous Young’s contributions, a multimillionaire from Hong Kong, and those of the Pacific Cultural Foundation, a front created by reverend Moon under the Taiwan government [2]. In 1996, he held a conference where pressure groups had access to republican congressmen. The admission was fixed at $25 000 and there were extortion complains [3]. John Bolton accepted annual fees worth $30 000 that came from Taiwan’s government secret funds to make studies on the relations between the UN and the «two» Chinas [4].

          John R. Bolton worked also for real think tanks. In 1993, he was a researcher at Dan Quayle’s Hudson Institute. Later, Dick Cheney appointed him vice-president of the American Enterprise Institute where he actively participated in the conception of the Project for a New American Century (PNAC), the group that designed George W. Bush’s first term program. As a result, after the victory, Dick Cheney imposed Bolton as undersecretary of state for arms control and international security and his special mission was to watch over Powell, whom the hawks did not trust.

          Bolton, an educated man with a charming English style, has become famous for being forthcoming and for his anger. Whether in the Justice Department or the State Department, he always attacked international institutions, especially the (Permanent Court) of International Justice. A violent opponent of the UN he caused a scandal in 1994 when in a roundtable organized by the World Federalist Association he said the UN building and its 38 floors in New York were a nuisance and a dozen of them could be easily demolished. Along with Jesse Helms, he favored the U.S. withdrawal from the UN and encouraged republican congressmen to ignore such an institution.

          Apart from opposing the international law, he has also opposed its right to sanction individuals. Therefore, he has been against the International Criminal Tribunal characterized by him as a «notion of romanticism of not only sick and naïve, but dangerous minds». [5]. Regarding foreign policy, he has been obsessed with the communists States: China, North Korea and Cuba. He also increased his statements so that Taiwan’s independence from China could be recognized.

          In July 2003, during the negotiations of a group formed by six to discuss North Korea’s nuclear disarmament, he told North Korean diplomats that their president, Kim Jong Il, was a “tyrannical dictator” and “life in his country was a horrible nightmare”. The ambassador replied and told him he was a “waste for mankind and a leech”. After this «nice» exchange, the negotiation was ended and only resumed when the U.S. appointed another representative [6]. Finally, the experts were filled with dismay when he accused Cuban president Fidel Castro of developing biological weapons without having single evidences.

          On the other hand, he has not been attracted by the Shiite revolution and during a parliamentary hearing he affirmed that Iran and Syria were threatening the world with weapons of mass destruction [7], an accusation that was denied by the CIA.

          While acting as undersecretary of state for arms control and international security, he took out the U.S. from international treaties and involved the allies in systems of collective security. He sabotaged the Biological Weapons Convention [8] and in front of his stunned colleagues he exclaimed completely satisfied: «It’s dead, dead, dead, dead and do not count on me to bring it back!».

          He demanded the U.S. unilateral withdrawal from the Disarmament Treaty with Russia and was pleased when President George W. Bush acted and brought the “Star Wars” program back. He imposed the Proliferation Security Initiative (PSI) on America’s allies to guarantee the control of the common spaces (seas, air) by the Anglo-Saxon coalition [9]. In January 2003, the Oriental press was stunned by Bolton’s statements during his trip to Tel Aviv. The undersecretary of state suggested, before Ariel Sharon and Benjamin Netanyahu, that after the Iraqi war «it would be necessary to deal with Syria, Iran and then North Korea’s threats». [10].

          John R. Bolton, an extreme right-wing militant, follower of the “disarmament preventive wars” would be appointed to important posts during Bush’s second term. His friend, Senator Jesse Helms, said: «He is the kind of guy I want to be with when the Armageddon comes».

          [1] The National Policy Forum was founded by Haley Barbour (president of the Republican National Committee from 1993 to 1996). Initially, it was presided by Michael Baroody

          [2] Guy Gugliotta: « Taipei Office Handled Gift to GOP Think Tank, Papers Show », The Washington Post, July 22, 1997

          [3] See the report of the Senate Committee for Governmental Affairs: Investigations of Illegal or Improper Activities in Connection with 1996 Federal Elections Campaign, March 10, 1998

          [4] All these was revealed in year 2000 when president Chen Shui-bian payed off the secret funds of the National Security Committee after colonel Liu Juan-chun’s tour through Continental China. See John Pomfret: «Secret Taiwan Fund Sought Friends Influence Abroad», The Washington Post, April 5, 2002

          [5] Source: hearing of the Commission of International Relations of the House of Representatives, July 7, 2000

          [6] «North Korea Bans Bolton from Talks», Associated press, August 3, 2003

          [7] John Bolton withdrew his accusations during a conference at the Hudson Institute on August 17, 2004

          [8] Robert-James Parsons: «Les États-Unis sabotent le protocole de contrôle», Voltaire, November 22, 2002

          [9] «Le gendarme du monde veut contrôler les océans», Voltaire, December 4, 2003

          [10] Ian Williams: «The New Age of Disarmament Wars », FPIP, February 20, 2003

          • bonami

            Thank you, I see he is even worst than I thought.

    • Starlight

      Now come the jewish neo-nazis posing as ‘real’ nazis.

      Most of Churchill’s most famous writings were by ghost writers. But early in life he did do some writing. For instance what he says about the jews is so obscene and racist, it is ILLEGAL to quote in the UK today without context.

      Churchill was never pro-jewish, but after WW2 he went fully bust and accepted jewish money to bail his family out and save them. The jews gave Churchill a fortune and he agreed to support their political ambitions as best he could (AFTER WW2, remember).

      The British people and German people are largely from the same stock, so the idea that Churchill would fundamentally hate the German people is just pathetic. Just another jewish lie told by a jew posing as a real present day KKK style-nazi.

      Even at the end of his life, Churchill saw jews as nothing but possibly useful servants of the anglo-saxons, and the jews were happy with this naive position held by racist Churchill.

      All so-called nazi sites on line are owned and run by zionists posing as nazis. Agenda control and fear-mongering is one reason. But another is far more devious. True stories of jewish atrocities are repeated on these FAKE nazi sites, and then when a decent person reports in an ordinary forum on a jewish crime, jews in that forum say the person must be a nazi, for he got the report from a ‘nazi’ site.

      Anyone openly posting from or refering to one of these fake nazi sites has revealed themselves to be a zionist agent. There are no real nazis today that matter (well maybe some in places like Ukraine supported by the zionist West). But there are the neo-nazis of Israel, and the fake nazi sites these neo-nazis use to protect acts of atrocity in the name of jewish supremacy.

    • bonami

      I think his positive bias towards UK Jewry was possibly driven by the fact he owed them money:) Churchill had a tendency to live well beyond his means.

    • Ruprecht Mudorc

      Churchill was many things but he was not pro Jews in the Levant.
      I think you have got him mixed up with Balfour and Sykes.

  • Sergey Tokarev

    Porton Down was already involved when they were making case for war on Iraq. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_Green_ricin_plot

    • jerry hamilton

      Good link.

    • Starlight

      Well- DUH, that’s why Porton Down exists. MIC much?

  • chris chuba

    As a matter of protocol, the OPCW should be comparing the so-called Novichok agent used on the two victims against known inventories. What better place to start then Porton Down?

    Russia does not have any declared inventory. Before indicting Russia, they should first compare the agents with the known inventories and if none of them match then at least there would be some cause to suspect Russia or some other source. However, I bet we would get a match.

    • jerry hamilton

      You will never get anything because the British government have nothing.
      Or at least nothing that wouldn’t incriminate them.

      • Starlight

        It’s the very opposite. Britain openly admits the history of Porton Down- its crimes (BBC has bored viewers to death reporting on them over the decades) and the fact Britian has large stores of every poison known to man.

        When Tony Blair first achieved real power, he even forbade PD from disposing of its stocks of Small Pox, ending a long fought initiative to make Small Pox extinct on the Earth.

        There isn’t a LACK of evidence at Porton Down- everything there is for mass murder, all in the open.

        Britain uses the cleverest trick of all. So much clear guilt it would never be stupid enough to risk it. Just like how witch hunters did everything they falsely accused witches of doing.

        It’s the infamous psy-op of “I’m so obviously guilty I must be innocent’

        • jerry hamilton

          My post was not to reflect what was contained at Porton Down.
          I was remarking on evidence in the Skripal case.

    • Organizational structure allows nearly endless delaying opportunities for the inspectee. (If that is a word). Anyway, the lads at Porton Down would have plenty of time to tidy up before any inspectors came snooping about.

    • Starlight

      You mean like how the international body for finding sports cheats IGNORED the state sponsored doping of all major british sports people (this is true- britain gained exemptions for all athletes who fake a claim for ‘medical’ ‘need’), while accusing and banning Russian athletes even when there was no evidence?

      International bodies belong to the Great Powers who made an effort to ‘buy’ them. Putin, as a zionist appeaser, forbade Russian intelligence experts from ‘buying’ – allowing all international agencies to fall into the hands of the West and China, with Russia excluded.

      There is NO SUCH THING as ‘unbiased’ at an international level. There is only “not biased against you because you’ve used power to ensure this”. So Great Powers must always ensure they have their control of such bodies, and lesser powers have to attach to one or more Great Powers for their nation to be likewsie protected.

      Asking for the OPCW to be ‘fair’ is the cry of a moron. Putin has allowed Britain to turn each major body ‘anti-Russian’ because Putin refused to make the effort to prevent this in the first place.

      Only very late has zionist appeaser Putin paniced and started to reverse this policy a little. He saved the Word Cup (for now) by finally putting effort into controlling a corner of FIFA (a couple of years back- just in time- for Britain almost had FIFA cancel the Russian event back then).

      PS Britain now has so many demonic irons in the fire it is hard to perceive which they really care about. The coming Iran War is the only true priority. Before then whether Britain is kicking Putin in the face for fun OR for profit is hard to say.

  • j. jaxson

    hopefully someone doesn’t blow up their stash out there at porton down.
    OUCH!!!!

    • jerry hamilton

      Agree. Their grade of weed is so good.

  • AlexanderAmproz

    Be afraid, be very afraid !

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Theresa May’s Foreign Policy

    by Thierry Meyssan

    Thierry Meyssan pursues his study of national foreign policies. After having analysed the policy of France, he now turns to that of the United Kingdom. While the former is considered to be the « private domain » of the President of the Republic, and as such, escapes the democratic debate, the latter, even more so, is elaborated by an elite gathered around the monarch, outside of any form of popular control. Thus the elected Prime Minister can do no more than implement the choice of the hereditary Crown. Faced with the failure of the US project for a unipolar world, London is attempting to restore its erstwhile imperial power.

    This article follows « President Macron’s foreign policy », by Thierry Meyssan, Voltaire Network, 13 March 2018.

    Global Britain

    On 13 November last, Theresa May seized the opportunity offered by the Prime Minister’s annual speech at Lord Mayor’s Banquet to give an overview of the new British strategy after the Brexit [1]. The United Kingdom intends to re-establish its Empire (Global Britain) by promoting international free exchange with the help of China [2] and ejecting Russia from international instances with the help of its military allies – the United States, France, Germany, Jordan and Saudi Arabia.

    Retrospectively, all the elements we can see today were mentioned in this speech, even if we didn’t immediately understand it at the time.

    Let’s take a step back. In 2007, Russian President Vladimir Putin spoke at the Munich Security Conference. He noted that the unipolar world proposed by NATO was by essence anti-democratic, and he called upon the European states to dissociate themselves from this US fantasy [3]. Without responding to this essential comment about the absence of democracy in international relations, NATO denounced Russia’s desire to weaken the cohesion of the Alliance in order to threaten it more easily.

    However, a British expert, Chris Donnelly, has since refined this rhetoric. In order to weaken the West, Russia is allegedly attempting to delegitimise its economic and social system, the foundation for its military power. That would be the hidden motive behind Russian criticism, particularly in the media. Let’s note that Donnelly does not respond any more than did NATO to the essential remark by Vladimir Putin, although why bother debating democracy with an individual who is suspected, a priori, of authoritarianism?

    I believe that Donnelly is correct in his analysis, and that Russia is correct in its objective. Indeed, the United Kingdom and Russia are two diametrically opposite cultures.

    The former is a class-based society with three levels of nationality fixed by law and mentioned on all identity papers, while the latter – like France – is a Nation created by law, where all citizens are « equal in rights » and where the British distinction between civil rights and political rights is unthinkable [4].

    The aim of social organisation in the United Kingdom is the accumulation of wealth, while in Russia it is the construction of one’s own individual personality. Therefore in the United Kingdom, the ownership of land is massively concentrated in very few hands, unlike Russia, and especially France. It is almost impossible to buy an apartment in London. The best that one can do – as in Dubaï – is to sign a 99-year lease. For many centuries, almost all of the city has belonged to no more than four people. When a British citizen dies, he or she decides freely to whom they will bequeath their heritage, and not necessarily to their children. On the contrary, when a Russian citizen dies, History begins again at zero – his or her property is divided equally between all the children, whatever the wishes of the deceased may have been.

    Yes, Russia is indeed attempting to delegitimise the Anglo-Saxon model, which is all the more easy to do since it is an exception which horrifies the rest of the world as soon as they understand it.

    Let’s return to Theresa May. Two months after her speech at the Lord Mayor’s Banquet, on 22 January 2018, Her Majesty’s Chief of Staff, General Sir Nick Carter, gave a very important speech which was entirely dedicated to the coming war with Russia, based on Donnelly’s theory [5]. Drawing the lessons from the Syrian experience, he described an enemy who possesses new, extremely powerful weaponry. (This was two months before President Putin revealed his new nuclear arsenal [6]). Sir Nick Carter confirmed the necessity of having many more ground troops, of developing the British arsenal, and of preparing for a war in which the images broadcast by the medias would be more important than victory on the ground.

    The day after this shock conference at the Royal United Services Institute (the Defence think tank), the National Security Council announced the creation of a military unit to combat « Russian propaganda » [7].

    How is the British project developing?

    Although the Foreign Affairs Committee of the House of Commons has cast doubts on the reality of the Global Britain project [8], several of its points have moved ahead, despite a huge setback.

    It is important to understand that Mrs. May is not attempting to change, but rather to reorganise her country’s policies. Over the last half century, the United Kingdom has been trying to integrate the European structure, progressively losing the advantages inherited from its former Empire. The question now is not to abandon everything that was achieved during this period, but to re-establish the former world hierarchy, in which Her Majesty’s officials and the gentry lived in clubs all over the world, waited on by the local populations.

    – In her journey to China the week following Sir Nick Carter’s speech, Theresa May negotiated several commercial contracts, but entered into political conflict with her hosts. Beijing refused to distance itself from Moscow, and London refused to support the Silk Road project. Free exchange, yes, but not via communication routes controlled by China. Since 1941 and the Atlantic Charter, the United Kingdom shares the charge of the « common spaces » (both maritime and aerial) with the United States. Their two navies are designed to be complementary, even though the US Navy is much more powerful than that of the Admiralty.

    Thereafter, the Crown activated the government of its Australian dominion in order to reconstitute the Quads, the anti-Chinese group which used to meet during Bush Jr’s mandate [9]. Apart from Australia, this group is composed of Japan, India and the United States.

    Presently the Pentagon is working on ways to create trouble on both the maritime Pacific Silk Road and the land-based Silk Road.

    – The announced military Alliance was constituted in the form of the very secret « Little Group » [10]. Germany was weathering a government crisis at the time and did not participate at first, but it seems that this late start was rectified at the beginning of March. All the members of this conspiracy coordinated their actions in Syria. Despite their efforts, they failed three times to organise a false-flag chemical attack in Western Ghouta, since the Syrian and Russian armies had seized their laboratories in Aftris and Chifonya [11]. However, they did manage to publish a common anti-Russian statement concerning the Skripal affair [12] and to mobilise both NATO [13] and the European Union against Russia [14].

    How might this situation evolve?

    It is obviously strange to see both France and Germany support a project which was specifically designed against them: Global Britain, insofar as the Brexit is not a retreat from the federal bureaucracy of the European Union, but an act of rivalry.

    In any case, Global Britain today may be defined as follows :

    – the promotion of international free exchange, but exclusively in the thalassocratic context, in other words with the United States against the Chinese communication routes;

    – and the attempt to exclude Russia from the Security Council and cut the world in two, which implies the on-going manipulation with chemical weapons in Syria, and the Skripal affair.

    We may anticipate several incidental consequences of this programme:

    – The current crisis is a reshuffle of the elements from the end of Obama’s mandate, except that London is now at the centre of the game rather than Washington. The United Kingdom, which can now no longer count on the support of Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, will turn to the new US National Security Advisor, John Bolton [15]. Contrary to the allegations of the US Press, Bolton is absolutely not a neo-conservative, but a close friend of Steve Bannon. He refuses the idea that his country could be submitted to international law, and howls at Communists and Muslims, but in reality he has no intention of launching any new wars, and desires only to live at peace in his own home. He will not fail to sign all the declarations proposed to him against Russia, Iran, Venezuela, and North Korea. London will be unable to manipulate him to exclude Moscow from the Security Council, because his personal objective is not to reform the UNO, but to get rid of it altogether. He will however be a faithful ally concerning the the conservation of the « common spaces » and the opposition to the Chinese « Silk Road », particularly since he was the initiator of the Proliferation Security Initiative – PSI in 2003. We should therefore begin to notice the outbreak, here and there, along the traces of the Chinese routes, of new pseudo civil wars nourished by the Anglo-Saxons.

    – Saudi Arabia is preparing the creation of the « Neom », a new fiscal paradise in the Sinaï and the Red Sea. It should replace Beyrouth and Dubaï, but not Tel-Aviv. London will connect it with the Crown’s different fiscal paradises – including the City of London, which is not English, but depends directly from Queen Elisabeth – in order to guarantee the opacity of international commerce.

    – The multitude of jihadist organisations which flows out of the Levant is still controlled by MI6, via the Muslim Brotherhood and the Order of the Naqshbandis. These troops may well be redeployed for use, mainly against Russia – and not against China or in the Caribbean, which is the option currently being studied.

    After the Second World War, we were witness to the decolonisation of the European empires, and then, after the Vietnam war, we saw the financialisation of the world economy by the Anglo-Saxons, and finally, after the dissolution of the Soviet Union, we saw the solitary attempt at world domination by the United States. Today, with the powerful rise of modern Russia and China, the fantasy of a culturally globalised world governed in unipolar fashion is fading away, while the Western powers – and particularly the United Kingdom – are falling back on their own imperial dreams. Of course, the high level of current education in the old colonies is forcing them to rethink their models of domination.

    Thierry Meyssan

    [1] “Theresa May speech to the Lord Mayor’s Banquet 2017”, by Theresa May, Voltaire Network, 13 November 2017.

    [2] By doing so, Mrs. May confirms the prognosis I published just after the Brexit, sixteen months earlier : “The new British Foreign Policy”, by Thierry Meyssan, Translation Pete Kimberley, Voltaire Network, 4 July 2016. However, as I shall explain in the follow-up to this article, this vision was quickly confronted by the Russo-Chinese alliance.

    [3] “The unipolar governance is illegal and immoral”, by Vladimir Putin, Voltaire Network, 11 February 2007.

    [4] This is a fundamental question which was debated in depth by Edmund Burke and Thomas Paine. It is is this irreconcilable difference that opposes the Anglo-Saxon concept of Human Rights (defined by the Declaration of Mary II of England in 1689) and the resulting system of parliamentary monarchy, on the one hand, and on the other, the French concept of Human Rights (defined by the Declaration of the National Constituent Assembly of 1789) which put an end to the three orders of the Ancien Régime.

    [5] “Dynamic Security Threats and the British Army”, by General Sir Nick Carter, Voltaire Network, 22 January 2018.

    [6] “Vladimir Putin Address to the Russian Federal Assembly”, by Vladimir Putin, Voltaire Network, 1 March 2018.

    [7] “British army to create a unit against Russian propaganda”, Translation Anoosha Boralessa, Voltaire Network, 6 February 2018.

    [8] “Global Britain inquiry”, Foreign Affairs Committee, UK House of Commons.

    [9] “Stealing China’s thunder: the Quads’ counter project to the Silk route”, Translation Anoosha Boralessa, Voltaire Network, 23 February 2018.

    [10] « Syrieleaks : un câble diplomatique britannique dévoile la “stratégie occidentale” », par Richard Labévière, Observatoire géostratégique, Proche&Moyen-Orient.ch, 17 février 2018.

    [11] “Discovered: two laboratories of chemical weapons of “moderate” Syrian rebels”, Translation Anoosha Boralessa, Voltaire Network, 16 March 2018.

    [12] “Salisbury attack: Joint statement from the leaders of France, Germany, the United States and the United Kingdom”, Voltaire Network, 15 March 2018.

    [13] “Statement by the North Atlantic Council on the use of a nerve agent in Salisbury”, Voltaire Network, 14 March 2018.

    [14] “European Council conclusions on the Salisbury attack”, Voltaire Network, 22 March 2018.

    [15] “John Bolton and Disarmament through War”, Voltaire Network, 30 November 2004.

  • SFC Steven M Barry USA RET

    While I was in US Army Special Forces we were routinely taught and briefed on the use and effects of chemical weapons, including nerve agents such as VX.

    The simple fact is that if Skripal and his daughter were exposed to a military grade VX “like” nerve agent they would have died within a minute. And because these nerve agents are “persistent” anybody who handled the bodies would have also died. They would not be “sick” and in hospital.

    Although I am not a chemical warfare exert (but I do know many retired soldiers who are), it is blatantly obvious to me that the entire Skripal narrative is an outright lie. Why have no chemical warfare experts stepped forward to denounce this utter falsehood?

    • Sinbad2

      Yeah, I did a Nuclear Biological Chemical Defense(NBCD) course in the RAN, and I agree.
      I doubt there ever was any nerve gas, the whole thing was fake.

      • JIMI JAMES

        That gorbo crim,looks like it certainly has cancer,if anything,I should know it reminds me of the brother in law (ex nato) who died of the very se’low death,sad but true!

        • Merijn

          Is it possible to come with arguments…? And use the caps when necessary….because in here we like to keep it a little bit decent…we dissagree a lot of times… but swearing all the time should not be necessary….arguments work great….
          Thanks in advance Bro….

    • Starlight

      Same as 911. In the first day some demo experts contacted the White House to say that the towers had obviously been pre-rigged by terrorists to be demolished. When the White House responded that such was “impossible” and only the planes were responsible, these experts understood America itself was responsible for the greatest False-flag in Human history, and their ‘duty’ (if they wanted to stay alive/work in the future) was to go quiet.

      ‘Experts’ rely on the state for employment, advancement of career and continued professional recognition. To speak out on what is clearly a state sponsored false flag is career death at best, and actual death at worst- so they don’t.

      Who does a false-flag have to convince. Certainly NEVER the experts. Their silence is guaranteed as explained above. No, it is all for the ‘burn the witch’ crowd.

      How many witches existed for real- yes today ever ‘educated’ person would say NONE. Yet in local events, state sponsored events and church sponsored events, at least ONE MILLION children, women and men were murdered as ‘witches’ across a number of centuries in the West.

      Get the mob excited and ‘facts’ and ‘logic’ is the last thing on their minds. And were the tales of witches ‘sensible’ or ‘sane’ or ‘factual’- actually completely the OPPOSITE. So today likewise, for the same psychological reasons, you want your best false flags to be laughable illogical fairytales.

      People believe Blair over 911 and May over Skripal for the self same reason they believed the witch hunters of history. And ‘thinking’ has no part.

      • Vidura

        lol there goes with the 9/11 crap! lol arent you idiots done with that ?

        • Merijn

          Haha wrong Avatar Bro…..this looks pretty foolish….

        • Leo Bluerider

          read carefully above. THX.

        • JIMI JAMES

          No it’s not enough you see the racists want the blurd n guts n brains hanging out!
          Way to go bush,CONGRATUFKNATIONS!

        • Ruprecht Mudorc

          Physics still hasn’t changed and likely never will, so No, the concerns about the nonsense that is the “official conspiracy theory” re 9/11 will itself never go away.
          If you live long enough you could either 1) learn some basic to advanced physics 2) wait for the truth to finally come out. I suspect 1) will be quicker.

          • arlenejohnson

            http://www.truedemocracy.net/td4/index.html has been out since 2 December 2001. Click anywhere in the photo to access the Table of Contents, where after articles about Vieques you will see 31 articles exposing 9/11. Then, just continue with later editions, because there are a total of 128 articles on it, free to the world.

          • Merijn

            It is so Complicated & Simple at the same time…. The Governments of Israel & the U.S. (under guidance of the NeoCons) have attacked their Own citizens in Operation WTC..to get them cheering for the War on Terror…nothing more than a scapegoat to Plunder & Loot the Middle East and try to Create a Greater Israel…and to make the Happy Few a couple of Trillions Richer…am I close?

          • Mike from Ramsbottom

            Very warm..

          • Ewan

            More than warm, Spot – On

      • ilme

        Well it actually is impossible that the Twin Towers were brought down by explosions. I don’t know what kind “experts” called there but everybody in the demolition business knows what a complex task it is to bring down a house by explosions. It takes weeks of preparations, Kilometers of cables, a slight disturbance would cause the whole thing to fail meaning it is absolutely impossible to do this while people are still working inside. Radio triggers do not work, they are not reliable and precise enough, would mess up the timing and it would either fail to collapse or not collapse as planned which would have been clearly visible. Also there is absolutely now way people working inside hadn’t noticed the many people drilling holes and putting cables trough the whole building for weeks.

        So I guess these experts that called where the commonly known internet warriors. A lot of things went wrong for sure but please don’t support the governments easy way out by bringing up that nonsense with explosives.
        And please don’t ruin this fine article here by doing so, all the other side then needs to do is to point out your post and say “look what kind of people support that accusations” and the case is done everybody will believe them and nobody cares about the arguments in the article anymore. And yes this unfortunately does work. So if you agree with whats written here please bring up facts and not fiction.

        • Samantha Green

          You are right for the wrong reasons. what makes pre-planned demolition impossible is that the videos show the collapses starting from he point of impact, which could not have been anticipated in advance. What is possible is takeover of the aircraft fly by wire systems by remote hacking, and demolition of building 7, though not the towers.

          • bonami

            There were no planes.

          • Merijn

            Might have been just Cruise Missiles…. with Computer Animated Planes added later…yeah…sounds plausible…anything is possible these days…

          • bonami

            No, no planes, no cruise missiles. It was all CGI after the fact, which is why in one video the nose of the plane exits the far side of the building undamaged and in another the image of the plane appears first in front of a building crane and in the next shot it is behind it. There is an excellent video online that goes into it in detail.

          • Merijn

            Incredible that they can fabricate all these different stories in one happening….but the fact that your “Own” Government is executing such operations against their own people pretty unbelievable….many things said & done to distract, but it’s all about the Common Thread…you Kill your own People to gain sympathy for Your war…that will cost another Million Lives….Then You are the Devil in Person..

          • jerry hamilton

            Not done after because too many people saw a plane fly into it.

          • bonami

            No, what you saw were people saying they had seen a plane fly into it.

          • jerry hamilton

            Oh. Ok. That puts the Naudet brothers video camera in question.
            They must have filmed it with pretend firefighters.
            I don’t think real firefighters would have pretended for the camera.
            How do you think that worked?

          • bonami

            The firefighters are real enough. The image of the plane hitting the building is not. This is the only video that exists of a plane supposedly hitting the tower and the image of the hit area is different from any others that appeared on tv at the time.
            There are any number of videos online that take their video apart. Why do you think YouTube has disabled comments on their video, because it is fake.

          • jerry hamilton

            Ok. You have beat me. I can’t argue with you any longer.
            You are the supreme know it all.
            I can only tolerate stupidity for so long.
            Don’t reply. Ever.

          • jerry hamilton

            You are probably very close.
            You see a plane flying straight into the tower without slowing down or juddering.
            That would have been possible on many earlier buildings because they never had a solid outer skin.
            The twin towers broke the mould having steel outer casing to stop damage by a plane hitting it. (The empire state building was hit by a plane.)
            So the plane flying into it does not make sense. In ten seconds it will.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgXOUHuHCtM

          • bonami

            Not so, no plane could ever penetrate a commercial building. The nose cone of a plane is extremely thin, it can be completely trashed by an impact with a seagull.

          • jerry hamilton

            Exactly. That is why a hologram is the only explanation.
            It was not CGI afterwards. It was CGI real time,

          • bonami

            I think a hologram may have been used, but the videos are CGI’d as their errors are CGI errors. Such errors would not have happened with a hologram.

          • Ruprecht Mudorc

            Sorry… CGI is not real time. it is post production. Even now.

          • jerry hamilton

            Pre programmed. When go is pressed, it plays real time.
            When my laser lighting is used – real time, I know what it is going to do.

          • Ruprecht Mudorc

            WTF are you on or on about??
            I think you are just rambling, freestyle sort of.

          • jerry hamilton

            Being obnoxious is not compulsary.
            CGI Computer-generated imagery is pre programmed on a computer.
            When the program is then started, the display is happening real-time.
            It would not be possible for it to be post production.
            How on earth can you think it is programmed after it has happened?

            I will repost my reply to you that you chose not to reply to.
            Then I will never respond to one of your posts again.
            Unless you with all your knowledge don’t have a clue as to the answer.

            “Ok. I can accept the flame/debris cone as a pyrotechnic.
            In reality the actual nose could never have reached that far.
            I can accept the outer skins were designed to give way to take some of the impact.
            What you might like to help me with is the way the plane entered the building.
            It did not slow down even a tiny bit. There was no indication of a judder and nothing broke off.
            The aluminium wing tips and tail fin cut through the steel shell like it was butter.
            Also, the reinforced columns would have stopped the progression of the plane
            yet the tail end did not slow down as it entered the building.
            I can’t help but find that totally impossible.”

          • jerry hamilton

            I really don’t get this.
            I am supporting your theory with the only possible solution and you reject it.
            Are you some sort of bot? Is there a language problem?

          • bonami

            I realize you are supporting my comment and thank you.
            I am disputing your statement , “That would have been possible on many earlier buildings because they never had a solid outer skin”

          • jerry hamilton

            I see. This was a point I actually argued with an architect in Sacramento, CA
            He argued that buildings used an internal structure and the external facade was nothing but a pretty cover.
            It was. A plane could have gone straight in till it hit one of the interior columns.
            It would then stop dead.
            The twin towers were revolutionary in that respect.
            They were wrapped with a steel cage that an aeroplane could not penetrate and did not penetrate.
            If you have a problem with earlier buildings being built the way they were, that is your problem. Are you high?

          • Ruprecht Mudorc

            It was designed to do exactly that.

          • Ruprecht Mudorc

            Holograms??? You are not serious?? No, you are trying to take the piss or you really failed science class at school. I’ll help you out of pity ..We can’t project a hologram in that fashion yet. The kids never saw what we did, it is fakery, a movie effect..

          • jerry hamilton

            I see. You seem to know what the Pentagon was working on better than the Pentagon. Lucky you.
            The San Francisco School of Holography was opened in 1971 but holography was around long before then.
            Possibly you would be kind enough to explain in the clips below how the plane was able to slice through steel designed to stop a plane hit without juddering or even slowing down. If you start it at 50 seconds in, it will save time.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHHghW4Pg5k

            In the second clip it shows the nose of the plane popping out the other side of the building, which means it has gone through steel plate twice.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBKVI5mQ_00

            Now… Google “images of a plane that has hit a bird”.

          • Ruprecht Mudorc

            The outer skins was designed to give way to take some of the impact.
            Google “WTC architect explains” .. then get back to us.

          • jerry hamilton

            If you would be so kind as to give me a link please, it is not coming up in my country.
            May be part of google’s censorship algorithms.
            Can he really explain how the delicate nose of a plane can plough through all those reinforced columns?

          • Ruprecht Mudorc

            He didn’t need to.. See other comments.

          • Ruprecht Mudorc

            Only just seen this reply hence delayed reply from me.
            Seen all of those before. Certainly, planes hit 1 and 2 and a missile the Pentagon. Pennsylvania ???
            I think what you see as a nose is a flame/debris cone, it is certainly not the darker colour that the planes appeared.
            The outside columns of WTC 1 and 2 were built to absorb, but not arrest, the impact of a plane such as a fully laden 707, the largest plane conceived at time of design. 767 is approx same.
            Holograms just can not be projected like that. There is not the technology available yet,. To suggest otherwise and that the projections could be powerful enough and coordinated so precisely to be solid from all angles, is absurd.
            Where would the “projectors” have been sited?
            That does not mean that the towers were not deliberately brought down by CD as clearly they were. All the observations point to it.

          • jerry hamilton

            Ok. I can accept the flame/debris cone as a pyrotechnic.
            In reality the actual nose could never have reached that far.
            I can accept the outer skins were designed to give way to take some of the impact.
            What you might like to help me with is the way the plane entered the building.
            It did not slow down even a tiny bit. There was no indication of a judder and nothing broke off.
            The aluminium wing tips and tail fin cut through the steel shell like it was butter.
            Also, the reinforced columns would have stopped the progression of the plane
            yet the tail end did not slow down as it entered the building.
            I can’t help but find that totally impossible.

          • trembler

            Thanks for the laughs and make sure to wear a helmet when you leave the house

          • Ruprecht Mudorc

            There were. Go away and play somewhere else.

          • jerry hamilton

            You really are quite useless.
            You won’ even attempt to explain the clips at all.

          • bonami

            I repeat, there were no planes.
            Proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5Dl5jIdtdk and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQBlv7sZGVEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUoqwUVOxHE
            Insults do not contribute to discussions BTW.

          • Ruprecht Mudorc

            And you are just wrong. No holograms, real planes, likely drones.

          • bonami

            I see you didn’t bother to view the videos; for the last time, there were no planes, nor drones at the twin towers. there was one missile at the Pentagon.

          • Ruprecht Mudorc

            Clown. Why did you stop the meds?

          • bonami

            Ah well, you didn’t bother to view the videos and you are back to lame name calling. Good luck and good bye.

          • ilme

            Thanks you just brought up another point: if the explosives were wired that actually had been possible (to select the floor at which they start) but the plane had torn apart all the wires so the charges hadn’t worked anyway.

            And why blow Up Building 7 anyway? I don’t see any reason for doing that but I’m sure some conspiracist will be able to find an explanation for it.

          • Merijn
          • bonami

            The records for the Enron and WorldCom investigations/lawsuits were kept in Building 7.

          • Merijn

            Oh yeah thanks… I knew something had to disappear…..

          • jerry hamilton
          • Ruprecht Mudorc

            Ah, Building 7… I saw what you did there…
            You don’t see any reason after all these years and no doubt in that time somebody as expert at denial as you knows exactly what the general consensus is and isn’t about WTC 7??? Oh, what a subtle shill you are. .. I’ll nibble your bait .. oh.. yum!
            WTC7 .. 1) was not extensively damaged by debris or fire, despite efforts to say it was 2 ) had not fallen before the BBC actually said it had 3) was a classic picture of controlled demolition, as were the towers. Thermite and all. 4) Silverstein admitting giving order to “pull’, the term for CD, which as you yourself have said, takes a long time to set up. And where was likely control-centre for CD of 1 and 2 (plus information on massive Pentagon fraud that Cheney had talked about day before)?? oh .. oh … I know ..

          • Samantha Green

            I do believe there was a conspiracy around building 7, perhaps secrets that could not be kept in a disaster zone.

        • Leo Bluerider

          WTC7 : let’s wait for Leroy Hulsey’s team Report at the University of Fairbanks Alaska. Their final report is dued within months. 2 flaws have already been discovered in the previous NIST official report : 1/ the quantity of heat injected in the model doesn’t fit with the model. The model emcompasses only half of the structure, but the heat is in full quantity, as observed on that day. So the dilatation of the structure is not accurate and exagerated. 2/ the column 79, the first to break, was strongly reinforced but NOT in the model of the NIST. Extensive ongoing survey will explain the consequences of these 2 mistakes, on the alleged reasons adocated for the fall of the WTC7. And… if there is something wrong for the WTC7 official explanation.. what about WTC 1 and 2’s ones ?

        • bonami

          My friend the only fiction on show here today is yours. Please educate yourself, you can begin with 9/11 For Truth.

        • Merijn

          Larry Silverstein made a lot of insurance money with the Collapse…Otherwise he would have had to spend a Fortune to remove All the Asbestos, that was in the buildings…riggin’ it was a piece of cake because security was controlled… Vans delivered the Explosives that were loaded in the elevators and dropped off at the right floors…Nanothermite (military grade) was used to Cut through the steel beams…so everything Pancaked..floor by floor…Building 7 pretty odd story too…the Pentagon, hit by a Cruise Missile, must have been pretty Sophysticated Terrorists. Whatever REALLY happened will probably stay a mistery, but this whole Case Stinks like a French Cheese….

          https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2012/04/10/insurer-caps-wtc-demolition-asbestos-payout-at-10-million-silverstein-laughs-all-the-way-to-the-bank/

          https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2012/11/08/911-dancing-israelis-phony-lawsuit/

          https://www.darkmoon.me/2013/will-larry-silverstein-ever-be-brought-to-justice-for-911-insurance-fraud-by-dr-kevin-barrett/

          http://rense.com/general75/thrm.htm

          https://youtu.be/THusC6JSFxM

          https://youtu.be/_KR8y-nPKuE

          • ilme

            You just posted a video that clearly shows an airliner flying in the pentagon and not a cruise missile and then tell it was a missile.
            I understand why people who do not understand technology think this was not a plane but if you know about the basics of photography/video motion blur and the chip design of that time you’ll understand why a missile had not even been visible on that recording.

            And that is what makes me so angry about these Conspiracists: they all have zero understanding of technology or physics and refuse to learn it. Go on a university and educate yourself or just order books and learn it at home, but please stop sabotaging the people who work hard to uncover the dirty secrets of what really happened back then. The main reason why the government isn’t forced to find a better explanation is because the so called conspiracy theorists make it so incredible easy for them by stating things of which everybody with basic school education feel they are BS.
            All the government has to do is to label critics as conspiracists, show a video like you did and suddenly the ones criticising have to defend themselves instead of being able to attack.
            To get a bit into that conspiracy thing myself: maybe you are all paid by the government to distract from the truth, it actually sounds very likely to me.

          • Merijn

            For me it has become absolutely irrelevant whether or not something is a fact or not, our governments have been lying for the last Centuries…and I myself don’t really care what they Lie…how they Lie….what their next Lie will be….That is All distraction…..They Lie, They Steal, They Murder, They Abuse…..They are Psychopaths…They represent Evil!! That is what it is all about for me…..and these People belong in Prison in the best case Scenario….There is only One Conspiracy…The Conspiracy itself….But perhaps that’s me…and Bogus makes you Think, Argue & Reason…. more people get to see different perceptions… ain’t that what it’s all about?

          • ilme

            So if you despise the government so much for what they do. Why are you doing exactly the same? That is how you keep that system alive. Why don’t you try to make it better, be an example that people can look up to.
            Just take a look at that discussion: you just bring anything in wether right or not because it is against the government. So the people who try to figure out the truth to make a change not only have to fight against the tremendous resistance of the whole system, but they also have to fight people like you because the fake news that you spread is damaging their credibility. With that attitude you actually work FOR the government and that by free will without getting paid for it.

          • Merijn

            They can read for themselves right?! I ain’t their Nanny….. if I made one person think about things he never thought about…good….I learned from others in here too…and don’t compare me with these Devils that Behead Kids, rape’m, or CarpetBomb Cities!!! Because than we end up on a wrong track….

          • ilme

            It seems like you became the devil you fight that’s all I can say to what you write. I hope one day you manage to let go and find your path in life one day.

          • Merijn

            You can believe me: The Path I’m on right now I rather would have skipped…I don’t want to fight, but confronted with the beheading of Kids, I have to pick up the Sword…. No Doubt about that….!

          • JIMI JAMES

            On the contary fake news is just that,they all lacketh power but when it comes to 911 these scumbags responsable aka shadow government must be trialed!
            untill they are usa will persist to end in it’s own ball of nazi infested sht unless it rids the slimes for good,fake news or not makes no rats arse of a difference,
            putin won the cold war along with china,bush is a loser USA WILL NEVER REAP
            FAKE NEWS OR NOT 22 TRILLION IN DEBT,HOW BAD ARE LIBERAL NAZIS?
            FAKE NEWS OR NOT MAKE NOT A RATS ARSE OF A DIFFERENCE,
            TRUTH ON THE OTHERHAND HAS POWER,MAYBE SOMEDAY YOJU CAN ACCEPT IT,INSTEAD OF TRYING TO IMPRESS WHAT IQ ,DID I SAY IQ

            HERE’S THE SCOOP SANCTION YOUR UNELECT LEADER,MAKE IT STICK
            USE YOUR COURAGE INSTEAD OF ALLOWING FKN IT TO STEAL IT AWAY
            END UP MUCH RICHER AND FREE WITHOUT THE ADDED BLOATWAREZ!
            I HAVE TWO HANDS AND MIND INTACT,I MAY WORK FREE,FK THE LIBTARDS
            I LEAD MY OWN GOVERNANCE,FOR I AM STRONGER AND DRUG FREE!

          • ilme

            ah found the block user function, great now I feel better :)

          • Ruprecht Mudorc

            The video you refer to (above) does not show a large plane flying into the Pentagon.. and this is about the only one of a great many videos seized to be subsequently released. Why? Why were so very many frames removed? What “security” concerns could require quarantining every other one? Wrong image of a missile of some sort, with a charge capable of penetrating up to 4 rings of reinforced concrete … something a soft aircraft nose can’t do.??
            It is plain pathetic anybody believe the official lies and nonsense.

          • Mike from Ramsbottom

            There’s one thing that sticks in my memory about the Pentagon. I watched it all unfold on my parent’s TV. What I remember is live video from a helicopter flying over the Pentagon. “Where’s the plane?” was my immediate question. A reporter took his cameraman through the hole in the wall and spoke to firefighters inside the Pentagon. He asked if they could see any evidence of an aircraft. The firefighter showed him a small jet engine, about the same size as a small car. “All there is is that”, said the firefighter. I never saw that clip transmitted on the TV ever again. You may not believe me, but that is what I remember.

          • Ruprecht Mudorc

            I have no reason to disbelieve you. I do not believe the official conspiracy .. There is far too much physics and physical chemical and mechanical and observer (experienced or otherwise) data to support the ludicrous idea that this all happened from 3 hijacked plane, as we are expected to unquestioningly believe ..
            Yet cognitive dissonance and outright delusion are strange things.
            But the blatant barking nonsense about holograms is just that and could well be trolls trying to undermine serious considered thought and discussion.

          • arlenejohnson

            The hole in the Pentagon isn’t big enough for a plane to have been able to enter it. This link should sort it:
            http://www.truedemocracy.net/hj34/09.html Aircraft speed impossible at sea level.

          • Drveruju

            The seismic records cannot be refuted. The 911 report tried to find a timing error, but were unable to discredit the results. They simply ignored the findings.

            Checkout Killtown 911 or Killtown Smoking Gun

          • ilme

            but thanks, I just found a very good video suggested in the one you posted that explains it even better and gave me more insight. I thought the plane must have been shaking so low on the ground, this explanation however is much more plausible:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVDdjLQkUV8

          • Ruprecht Mudorc

            What a crock. Good try though.
            This still does not explain 1) the gaps in the video from “the plane and it’s spiral smoke trail (that is also new…)’ behind the boom housing and the impact. That gap is a problem for the storytellers, 2) where are the engines and the huge main gear, not some tiny parts that experts have critiqued as being inappropriate 3) And still no lawn damage .. the pilot who could not fly a Cessna did an amazing job of flying this huge civilian jet, low but not too low (perhaps the problematic ground effect helped him after all??) and 4) hit his target so that the entire plane, wings and all, magically almost completely disappeared inside a reinforced building..
            5) The initial impact did NOT allow for the plane to disappear so thoroughly into the Pentagon.
            Even the later collapse left a defect that was like no plane I have ever seen fly!!
            The fabrications go on and on.

          • ilme

            That camera took ~2 frames a second it’s a miracle that the plane is even on picture, it as well could have traveled the whole distance between two frames and not been visible at all. Technology – it is important to understand it.

            At that speed a plane will completely vanish when it crashes into something, especially if it is a reinforced structure, see the German Wings flight which was crashed into a mountain by it’s pilot on purpose. That are basic laws of physics.

            It’s like the people 2000 years ago couldn’t explain a thunderstorm so they created a god that is putting lightnings on earth and creating the thunder. With knowledge we now know how thunderstorms work and don’t need to use god as an explanation anymore. It’s the same with 9-11 if you would update your knowledge about physics you could answer all that question of you yourself. (why should there be even any law damage? That would be completely against physics)

          • Ruprecht Mudorc

            You are going to have to work harder than that to patronise me.
            It certainly was an invisible plane. Even down to large pieces of wreckage that we would expect .. Perhaps you can in your wisdom point us to pictures of the engines and massive undercarriage parts of the 757? The pissy little spool that is all we see is not large enough and the punched out, burned hole in the inner reinforced wall (through 2 (I think) layers, is consistent with a missile strike, not ah airliner’s soft nose

          • ilme

            Well I can’t but I can suggest you to go to a university and study physics or mechanical engineering the’ll explain you. Do it in a country of your choice if you don’t trust the US system the’ll teach you the same everywhere on the world.
            It is about mass and the fuselage has way more mass than the engines. Also while engines are heavier than the rest of the wing they are not built like a tank they are built to withstand high temperatures and high rotation. An impact at that speed into a reinforced structure just smashes them into the tiny little pieces they are made out of. Look at the German Wings wreckage that crashed into the mountains you’ll not find a single big piece there neither.

          • arlenejohnson

            http://www.truedemocracy.net/hj37/09a.html Real reasons #7 imploded is just one of 128 articles on 9/11 that I published. Click on the icon that says Magazine to obtain more including one where the plane that hit the WTC was a military plane with no windows.

          • Merijn

            Thank you for your information…reading it now..every piece of the puzzle is important… Especially for Americans who are searching for the truth and want convictions… I’m Dutch…but we were all lied to and betrayed, which probably is the Most important conclusion & establishment we will find …

          • Mike from Ramsbottom

            And often, lies do not have to be said.. simple omission of truth, omission of fact, has the same effect. Take MH17, where most of the evidence is still in people’s sheds and garages in the area where parts fell through house roofs and into yards and gardens. They are still to this day waiting for investigators to collect it all, but it will never be collected, for the truth must never come out.

          • Merijn

            The Truth already came out…..you don’t need to know all the facts to know Truth….Facts are necessary in Court…when you want to convict people…

          • arlenejohnson

            Dear Merijn,

            It’s my pleasure. If you read my first edition, which is at http://www.truedemocracy.net/w01/index.html you’ll learn why it put the puzzle together for me enabling me to understand the mentality of those who betray decent people as you are. Feel free to send me Email at a@truedemocracy.net
            See America had a president who wanted peace, true peace like we want, not the kind of peace that the United Nations wants. That’s why I close most of the time with the word

            Peace,

            Arlene Johnson
            Publisher/Author
            http://www.truedemocracy.net
            To access the rest of my work, click on the icon that says Magazine.

        • JIMI JAMES

          Here’s ye facts,there were no weapons of mass destruction found in iraq.,
          Usa destroyed iraq,libya,usa,ukraine and syria but only to a certain point!
          there ye go so false flags are reality fkhed,what the fk are you on,meth or what?

          You’d know about keyboard warriors hey,ye lieing gimps are all the same,fkheds!
          go and do a real mans job,be an asset to civilisation,not a sly filthy nazi gimp!

          • ilme

            Wow, now that was a lot of Emotion, I hope you feel better now. Next time you need to do such barking I can suggest you look for a dog who can understand you and comfort you.

            Anything you can contribute to the topic as well?

        • Ruprecht Mudorc

          Except they DID notice noise and dust and various workmen coming and going, particularly at night and work went on on entire floors, shut down for various refits… You could “google’ it yourself.
          Oh and then of course there is the thermite and Sulphur residue…

        • arlenejohnson

          The bombs were placed there after people left for the day.

      • j. jaxson

        the steel girders of the twin towers were coated with super nano thermite.
        the planes were used as ignitors to ignite the super nano thermite into
        explosion and take down the towers like dust.

        • j. jaxson

          insurance payout to the buildings owner was billions.

        • Ruprecht Mudorc

          I don’t believe Jet fuel does not burn hot enough to ignite thermite and there would have been controlled sequence of burning and cutter charges.

          • j. jaxson

            it doesn’t matter what you believe its what happened that counts.
            like i said remote control planes crashed into twin towers huge explosion ignites super nano thermite along with devices planted below the buildings
            that exploded also.rayethon and a few others helped create the mishap.
            a third building went down also later without planes. no way two jet airliners take out the trade center by themselves. the pentagon was hit by a missile.

          • Ruprecht Mudorc

            I was being polite you dickhead.
            Thermite requires a temp of approx 3,000 degrees F to start.
            Burning jet fuels has a MAX temp in air (not inside an engine) of about half this.

          • j. jaxson

            thermite placed at the base of the girder columns-well over 100 pounds
            of super nano thermite for each column. thermite explodes and down come the towers turning the concrete in to dust.planes just a diversion.
            the third building went down later without planes-where can we get some of that stuff? super nano thermite has been found on the girder remnants.
            no military air force response either. but i noticed a wart hog zipping by.

      • arlenejohnson

        People believe me on 9/11. I gained supporters when the US government carried out that false flag. In the first edition I exposed that atrocity, I published 31 articles. See them at http://www.truedemocracy.net/td4/index.html A total of 128 articles arrived before I retired from publishing the e-zine.

    • Dilyana Gaytandzhieva

      Would you mind me sharing your comment so that more people can read it? You’ve made a very good point!

      • SFC Steven M Barry USA RET

        Go right ahead.

      • Merijn

        Very Good Article thank you…

    • Dilyana Gaytandzhieva

      Were there in the past any issues involving such nerve agents while you were there?

      • SFC Steven M Barry USA RET

        I talked today with several retired friends from SF who had the same training I did, and one who is a graduate of the US Army’s NBC (Nuclear, Biological, Chemical) Warfare school. Here is what I remember of military grade nerve agentst and what they agreed with…

        First exposure (in other words, it gets on you) to a military grade VX-like nerve agent results within seconds in uncontrollable mucus discharge and drooling. Within several seconds later there is all loss of control of “body functions.” Several seconds later begins uncontrolled nervous system “firing” (in other words, shaking, jittering, twitching, etc.), then several seconds later vital organs begin “shutting down,” finally well within a minute the brain “seizes” and the heart stops. Then you are dead.

        On deployments we were issued injectors and decontamination kits. The injectors came in pairs — one was Atropine, the other was Valium. Upon first exposure to the agent you were supposed to jab (literally, because it was a huge needle with a huge dose) yourself in the thigh with the Atropine injector. To prevent your heart from exploding from that, next followed the Valium. All that was meant to “stabilize” you so you could use the decontamination wipes on the place of exposure, so you could then be evacuated for “treatment.”

        If all that sounds insane it is because the idea behind it all was insane. You simply don’t have time to do those things. You loose control before you can dig out your injectors.

        I stand behind what I say above. If the Skripals had been exposed to a military grade VX-like nerve agent they would have died horrible deaths at the point of exposure.

        I think “Sinbad2” would more or less agree or be able to correct some detail I may have forgotten.

        • jerry hamilton

          It actually sounds like a really really bad idea.
          People start convulsing and you know there is a problem straight away.
          Ebola is a perfect biological weapon.
          You are passing it on without knowing.
          That is how you seriously damage your enemy.

          Are you deliberately trying to muddy the waters?

          • SFC Steven M Barry USA RET

            What does Ebola have to do with allegations of the use of a military grade nerve agent?

          • jerry hamilton

            It was a separate question and you seem qualified to answer.
            Are there times when a nerve agent would be used and other times when biochemical would be used?
            Don’t get me wrong. I enjoy your posts and want to know more.
            Is there any possible way the policeman that was infected could have pulled through like he did?

          • Ruprecht Mudorc

            Hamilton blows smoke to obscure things.

    • Merijn

      The West, This Great AngloZioNazi Empire is on the verge of a breakdown…the Information is spread so fast these days that by the time the first cops arrive on the scene…their False Flags are bein’ unravelled…that’s why they changed their tactics to Bombarding People with their Blatant Lies until they got the Governments narrative Burned into their Brains…it is time for the West to clean up this mess, if they ever want to have the opportunity to be taken serious in the near Future….their Evil Deeds so Utterly Shameful, that the only thing we can do is: Drag the Purpetrators to Nuremberg II and Convict them for Crimes against Humanity….and if it’s up to me: They will Hang for it….

    • Concrete Mike

      Indeed, its like Assad said in 2013, if I would have uses my chemical weapons tens of thousands of people would have died…clearly that did not happen..
      Its so obvious. But i noticed on the news they are now downplaying chemial weapon and just say poisoned by Russia.

      How stupid do they think we are for fucks sakes

      • Ruprecht Mudorc

        They think we are really dumb .. even when we take to the streets they still ignore us, a la Iraq demonstrations. A different approach is needed. Let’s get out the tumbrels..

    • Merijn
      • Johnpd

        Excellent journalism. Thanks.
        JD.

    • Garry Compton

      Well you know that the Russian Bull shit artist, {living now in NJ, USA} that ” claimed” to have first made the Novichokov agents, said that there is No known antidote – you die! What happens when these guys or at least the daughter walks out of the hospital? If indeed – get ready for another BS story about an — Antidote. LOL Litvinenko ‘s story worked so good on the sheeple – they just had to have an Encore – enter the Skripols.

      • Ruprecht Mudorc

        Yulia is getting better.
        Poor girl… she better look out for doctors with clipped accents, steel rimmed glasses and big needles…

    • Samantha Green

      Even 1 molecule? My understanding is that everything has a sublethal dose, with the possible exception of Plutonium; but even in that case, 1 molecule merely raises cancer risk.

    • bonami

      Perhaps no one has stepped forward because they are mindful of the Kelly murder. I think knowledgeable and wise CW heads are staying low to see how this plays out. Plus Craig Murray has already trashed this false flag to bits. Further Kelly was fighting for truth on behalf of Iraq, Russia with China taking its side and 100 plus countries who have not (yet) expelled Russian diplomats may be able to bring its own truth to bear.

    • Dilyana Gaytandzhieva

      Thank you, happy to see people like you who are not affraid to say the truth! I am sharing your comment.

    • JIMI JAMES

      The family has a history of cancer,which make perfect sense,considering it betrayed the just!

    • Ruprecht Mudorc

      Porton Down Scientists did not sign off on May’s hysteria. Some tried.

  • antoun

    eh oui!!

  • Sinbad2

    Russia should make a big scene at the UN, that the UK is illegally detaining Yulia Skripal, and demand she be given consular assistance.

    • jerry hamilton

      I agree but no-one would cover it.

    • Starlight

      Like Putin would ever do this in a million years. You mistake Putin for a real man, not a zionist appeaser.

      As a citizen of Russia, the UK could do nothing to resist a request for her repatriation (if she remains unconscious and cannot voice her own opinion). But what seems obvious in places like this will never play part of Putin’s thinking. He isn’t trying to ‘win’. He is trying to please the ‘master race’, and appease all the actual enemies of Russia.

      The recent fire in Russia proves Russia experiences third-world style corruption even after years of Putin rule. And whom does this corruption serve to this day. Jews did not become billionaires after the fall of the Soviet Union cos they were smart, or hard-working, or creative. No- they stole every penny using the extreme mega-violent gangsterism that allows you to take what you will, and then ‘legitimised’ that wealth by paying off the politicians.

      Jewish terrorists from Israel assisted with the threats, assassinations , and power plays with western companies and politicians on behalf of the jewish oligarchs. The Russian people didn’t stand a chance.

      The mall fire happened in a building that broke a thousand health and safety rules you would find in the UK or USA. Dirty money built the mall and dirty money ran the mall- and this is 100% Putin’s fault.

      So no, Putin won’t use any of his obvious or ‘clever’ options over this pathetic ‘nerve agent’ false flag. His handlers won’t allow this.

      Putin is a zionist forged in the circumstances of post Soviet Russia.

      • Ruprecht Mudorc

        Like the Grenfell fire?
        You know President Putin imprisoned many of the oligarchs and kicked out foreign corporations and individuals who were stealing state resources?

  • Regula

    Does anybody still wonder what caused the most recent Ebola pandemic in western Africa? Ebola cases started in the hospital. The US has a bio lab in that hospital.

    Russia and China will do well to develop as many antidotes to toxic chemicals and viruses as they can. They will need them. The US cannot win hegemony with politics alone. It will use bio warfare to kill as many Russians as necessary to take over Russia thereafter. Just as it killed enough Ukrainians to make the Maidan insurgency stick.

    • velociraptor

      BS

  • Starlight

    Man I did not know the yanks and the brits worked together- thanks for the head up Southfront (sarcasm).

    PS that gas that killed so many at the infamous theatre siege in Moscow- Tony Blair provided a Porton Down designed ‘knock-out’ gas to his mate Putin. Putin was too simple-minded to look a very obvious TROJAN ‘gift horse’ in the mouth.

    At the time the close friendship between Blair and Putin was a very public thing. During Putin’s early rise to supreme power, Blair shielded Putin from the desire of America and the EU to take Putin down over Chechnya.

    Later Blair would arrange the ‘Georgian War’ for Putin by persuading the braindead yanks to use Israeli mercs working with NATO to build up forces in Georgia, and then use said forces to attack Russian peacekeepers. The war was a long play to recover Crimea, by setting events in motion in Ukraine in the aftermath of Russia’s ‘victory’ in Georgia. In reality this long play was a TRAP for Putin- as today we now witness.

    Putin has never recognised Tony Blair’s betrayal of him, and still regards Blair as a VERY close ally and confident.

  • Mark Tyrone Chia

    People should also remember the nerve poisoning of the Kim half brother in Malaysia airport.
    Same bullshit of so apparent “North Korean” agent telling the 2 women what to do.
    Since when are outsiders so good at distinguishing north from south Korean accents?
    And how is it the 2 women who were supposed to have their hands coated in deadly nerve agent didn’t die?
    How is it that no trace was found in the waiting lounge where the attack was allegedly to have taken place?

    Before that Malaysia was one of the few countries with very good relations with North Korea. Malaysians didn’t need any visa to enter the north. Malaysian companies helped the north to bypass trade embargos and international sanctions.
    The half brother was also guaranteed shelter by China so why would the north provoke China unnecessarily?

    Do you think the North Koreans will kill the half brother and ruin their relationship with their very good Malaysian partner?

    Remember how the name of VX nerve agent was immediately proclaimed to the world? Who told the Malaysian so quickly about that?

    People seriously need to use their brains to think.

  • Zainab Ali

    root of all evil on earth – zio satanic terrorists – they will get their max share in perm hell

  • RichardD

    Great article.

    The crimes against humanity happening in the classified super soldier programs are a lot worse.

    • Ruprecht Mudorc

      (*rolls eyeballs*) Universal Soldier is not a documentary.

  • Ann Watson

    south front you are amazing – I wish so much I had money to give you – can’t barely afford to keep me and my loved ones eating

  • jerry hamilton

    Is there anyone who didn’t see this coming? The copper recovered after 2 days and is back at work.

    “The best friend of Sergei Skripal believes the poisoned double agent and his daughter Yulia are so critically ill they should be allowed to die.”
    https://news.sky.com/story/salisbury-nerve-agent-attack-sergei-skripal-and-daughter-yulia-should-be-allowed-to-die-11306692

    • jerry hamilton

      This means they will be killed by the Brits to keep them quiet

  • AM Hants

    Private contractors, with diplomatic immunity, now what could go wrong?

    Interesting, the involvement in Ukraine, and how many bio-weapons facilities does the US run in Ukraine? Especially when Ukraine forward them to Syria.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2006dc974abcc3930de3b7e9da873c1901865c51b6b023a21c3b61d1964e5545.jpg

    40 tonnes of chemical weapons, found in East Ghoutta, when the CIA funded terrorists had to flee the area? Now they are planning to carry on in Idlib, and blame it on Russia and Syria.

    Then you have Salisbury Plain – and the UK military held an exercise, the day before the Skripal incident, based on the same scenario. Steele – Skripal – Fusion – Clinton – Soros – Trump Dossier???

    Now, bearing in mind there is no knowledge of Skripal and his daughter, and why would the ambulance chasing journalists give up on the chance of an image, or back story, from friends and families? Would Skripal be part of the private contracts, in Porton Down, which might be one of his interests in guinea pigs and pussy cats? So could it all have been staged and he is actually somewhere with his daughter, complete with a new identity? Why would they need a distrcit hospital to treat the victims, when Porton Down would have anti-dote and medical facilities to treat CW victims? Failing that, there is an University Hospital, that serves the area?

    Nothing makes sense.

    A brilliant article, that so needs sharing.

    • goingbrokes

      Agreed!

  • Sinbad2

    The British are now reporting that Skripal was poisoned at home?
    Seems the deadly nerve agent that kills in seconds, not only doesn’t kill, but takes hours to work.
    Typical 3rd rate British engineering, can’t even manufacture a poison correctly.

  • Arn Jim Durand

    Skripal was a rat so why not whack him, what’s the big fuss about? Would a good old fashioned ,22 bullet in the back of the head have made a difference, then we probably wouldn’t have even heard about it, at least then he would be dead? Syria dropping loads of chemical bombs on civilians and nobody gives much of a shit. Drop one on London and see what happens. Humanity has its priorities wrong.