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Russian Karabakh And Other Consequences Of Armenian-Azerbaijani War

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Results of the Nagorno-Karabakh war continue shaping the balance of power of the South Caucasus. The ceasefire regime established as a result of the Russian diplomatic intervention and the deployment of the Russian peacekeeping force in the region nears the end of its first week.

As the outcome of the war, Azerbaijan achieved an important victory over Armenian forces and seized the symbolic Armenian stronghold of Shusha. Baku and Yerevan also reached an agreement that is set to allow Azerbaijan to return districts lost during the first Karabakh war excluding the Lachin corridor as well as finally establish a transport link between Azerbaijan’s mainland and the Nakhchivan Autonomous Republic, a landlocked Azerbaijani exclave bordering Armenia, Turkey and Iran. The latest development is in fact even more important for Azerbaijani national interests than any propaganda achievements in the war with the Armenians. This will not only allow to finally establish a ground link between the main territory Azerbaijan and the country’s autonomous region, but also strengthen economic and cultural cooperation with Turkey, a traditional Azerbaijani ally. Ankara, together with Israeli weapon suppliers, played an important role in the Azerbaijani victory through providing its forces with weapons, ammunition, intelligence and military advisers and specialists that helped to plan and turn into reality the Karabakh advance.

For years, Turkey has been employing the “two states, one nation” concept in its relations with Azerbaijan as a part of the wider claim to be the formal, military and spiritual leader of the so-called Turkic world and the Muslims in the Greater Middle East and Central Asia in general. Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who sees himself as the Sultan of the New Neo-Ottoman Empire, does not hide Turkish plans to annex territories of northern Syria and northern Iraq, where Ankara already has a permanent military presence. Azerbaijan is seen by Erdogan and his circle as a logical and important part of this Greater Turkey project with a particular autonomy. Therefore, the Turkish military presence in Azerbaijan and the further expansion of the economic, political and cultural links between the countries is a logical step in this plan. During the past years, Ankara has repeatedly announced the plans to build a new railway road to Nakhchivan. Now, the preparations for the implementation of this project will likely reach their finishing straight.

At the same time, there are some factors often ignored by pro-Turkish analysts boasting about the great Neo-Ottoman victory in Karabakh. First of all, the control over the so desired by Turkey ground link with Azerbaijan will be in the hands of the Russians under the Moscow-brokered deal between Baku and Yerevan. The control over the transport link between Nakhchivan and the Azerbaijani mainland will be exercised by the Border Service of the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB). At the same time, the Russian peacekeeping force will also control the corridor between Nagorno-Karabakh and Armenia, and a large part of the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh, including the largest regional city Stepanakert.

Russian forces supported by combat helicopters, electronic warfare systems, BTR-80A armoured personnel carriers and various armoured vehicles of other types already established 25 observation points (18 permanent and 7 temporary) in the region. One of the posts is in fact located at the gates of Shusha. Additionally to the 1960-strong contingent in Karabakh, the Russian military also created a gathering center, in other words a temporary military base, in the Armenian city of Goris, near the border. Battle tanks and multiple rocket launching systems spotted in the area indicate that the operation there involves additional means and forces. Moscow is also creating a special humanitarian center for Karabakh. The center will be controlled by Russia and overseen by the FSB thus cutting off the possibility of looting of humanitarian aid for the region.

Taking into account the deep crisis of the current pro-Western Armenian government, led by Nikol Pashinyan who is still hiding in some basement in Yerevan, the control over Nagorno-Karabakh territories, which should not been returned to Azerbaijan as the part of the November 10 deal, has been in fact transferred to Russia.

Now, Russia has officially established a military presence on the sovereign territory of Azerbaijan for the next 5 years. This term also can be prolonged under the existing deal. This unprecedented development for the modern South Caucasus caused little happiness in Ankara causing the Turkish attempt to promote the idea of the deployment of some ‘Turkish peacekeepers’ to the combat zone. However, all what it achieved was the draft plan for the creation of a joint Russian-Turkish ceasefire monitoring center on the territory of Azerbaijan. According to the Russian foreign minister, the center will be located in the part of the territory that is not close to Karabakh and no field missions are planned. The posture of Azerbaijan, which did not support the Turkish field deployment in Karabakh, in this unfortunate situation for Ankara became an unpleasant surprise for Turkish commentators.

Furthermore, Baku demonstrated an unexpected softness by shifting the schedule of the Armenian withdrawal from the contested region. Under the initial deal, the Kalbajar district was set to be transferred to Azerbaijan by November 15, a top aide to Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev announced that the deadline was extended till November 25. These steps show the readiness of the Azerbaijani side for the constructive actions in the framework of the existing Yerevan-Moscow-Baku format. Summing up, it seems that Mr. Aliyev is not going to pay back by turning Azerbaijan into the province of Erdogan’s Neo-Ottoman Empire. In this case, the closer cooperation with Russia, which is also an important economic and security partner of Azerbaijan, is an apparent solution.

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  1. occupybacon says:

    No word about Turkey army deployed in the new occupied/liberated areas? Why the silence?

    1. Mr T says:

      will be there dont worry.

      1. occupybacon says:

        I know but I wonder why is the article called Russian Karabach, maybe the new Russian base in Sudan will be called Russian Sudan and also Russian Latakia.

    2. Mr T says:

      Putler Russia is so weak, cant defeat a weak Turkey :)

      1. Jesus says:

        Have you been smoking hash?

        1. occupybacon says:

          No, he took the red pill.

        2. Jihadi Colin says:

          Come on, smoked bacon doesn’t cause hallucinations. I know.

      2. cechas vodobenikov says:

        a LGBT amerikan I surmise

    3. Jesus says:

      Because Russia did not involve the Turks in the cease fire accord. Again I refer you to Lavrov’s details about who can be in the proximity of Armenia and NK borders.
      Russia has troops on the ground to go, Turks are not.

      1. occupybacon says:

        Erdogan said he will send troops in the conquered area so the ‘Russian Karabach’ will be surounded by the ‘Turkish Karabach’. Is that simple.

        1. BMWA1 says:

          Or Turk Qarabağ? I think the Nagorno part is Russian term, seems simlar to the Czech Hora (Gora). As in, on the heights.

          1. occupybacon says:

            Most likely, gor is a slavic tall.

          2. Jihadi Colin says:

            Nagornii Karabakh = Mountainous Black Garden.

          3. cechas vodobenikov says:

            gora–same in Russian…black–chornni/cerna/chernaya–depending case

          4. BMWA1 says:

            Jak cernozem v Czechach!

          5. Julian Clegg says:

            Kara means black in Turkish and other Turkic languages – or did you know that already?

        2. cechas vodobenikov says:

          no murikan ukropi cowards and no turk troops,,,Lavrov is explicit

          1. occupybacon says:

            Russians won’t be in Shusha so there will be Turks

        3. Jesus says:

          More Erdo bs.

  2. Jihadi Colin says:

    There is absolutely nothing stopping the Ottoman Empire from coercing Aliyev into keeping as many Ottoman troops in Azerbaijan, including the recently captured and to be returned territory, as Erdogan wants. Aliyev must know by now that he’s an Ottoman proxy and he has to stay within limits.

    1. Jesus says:

      If Aliev is coerced by Erdogan into a position he does not want he can ask for Russian help to offset the Turks. The Turks would be in a poor strategic position since the Russians control the routes of movement in the area.

      PS there was a top Azeri general that did not want the Turkish presence in….he was dismissed.

      1. Rhodium 10 says:

        Many Azeri General know that Yeltsin supported Armenia in the 90s war because Turkey as a NATO member had the mandate to enter there and take control of the Caspian..and Turkey abandoned them to avoid a war vs Russia! and lost NK…also many of them have been trained in Russia and their parents like Aliyev father( awarded by Soviet Union and Russia) fought in WW2..Azeris expel German troops and saved Soviet Union ( Obviusly included Russia) to be defeated by Nazis in Edelweiss and Blue operation which the main purpose was to take Baku and the oilfields..then the main Soviet Union supplier!

        1. Ryan Glantz says:

          You guys remember the Russo-Turkish wars?

        2. Jesus says:

          At this point I think Aliev sees Russia as a more trusted and neutral partner, unlike Turks who are driven by ottoman megalomania.

    2. Jesus says:

      I think Aliev wants his sovereignty without the Turks telling him what to do. He can play both sides of the coin.

    3. Rhodium 10 says:

      Aliyev knows that its better not to be an enemy of Russia and being an Erdogan puppet will cause problems to AZ with EU( France among others)… Otomans dreams is only possible because Turkey is a NATO member and countries members sell weapons and components to Turkey… but if west put sanctions ( military and economic) Turkish armed forces will face a huge problem!…Aliyev also dont forget the large Azeri comunity living in Russia ( Daguestan, Ashtracan, Moscow, Kazan..etc.) beside the Russian Etnic Turquic Oligarchy and presidents of Caspian-Central Asian countries close to Putin beside the strategic ties Russia- Iran( which told after the deal that they were ready to support Russia in what they need)…therefore the ties with Turkey cousin is good in short term and useful to retaken NK…but bad in long term if Erdogan continue agresive politics and France and others EU states,Egypt,Emirates,Saudi Arabia stand up againts him.

      1. Jihadi Colin says:

        They’re, whatever they say, never going to force the Ottomans out of NATO. The Ottomans, as I said many times, are the second largest and most competent, indeed the only competent, military in NATO. The Ottoman Empire is also the single most strategically located country in NATO sitting across the chokepoint of the Black Sea and overlooking West Asia from Lebanon to Iran. Amerikastani Empire nuclear weapons are still in Incirlik, and Erdo playing bad cop to Macron et al’s good cop is just a sham.

  3. Ryan Glantz says:

    So what exactly is going on again? This whole situation is a huge mess.
    Russia has swooped in to save the refugees of the NK region while Azberjan wants to loot and rape and pillage, so that’s good. Now we’re seeing a protracted conflict akin to Idlib, is this correct?

    1. Jens Holm says:

      There is no huge miss. The Azarbaidianis has taken back, what they could not by 25 yaears of negosiatins.

      …And You of course can go more back in time wondering why those borders now recognized by UN was made in the first place.

      I wonder why those small countries and autonomes after finally gets rid of the Russians too. then AGAIN start killing each other. Are they able to be sober countries or not.

      1. Ryan Glantz says:

        I think we both know this has more to do with who wants to use what’s buried in the ground in that region than your ethnic discrepancies.

        1. Jens Holm says:

          I agree, mining is important, but the investors from older days are britts and EU today and not Turks and Russians.

          Reorganizing Armenia is by EU and USA as well. .

          1. Ryan Glantz says:

            mining lol

          2. Jens Holm says:

            You can star with this:


          3. Ryan Glantz says:

            What about the contractors that don’t show up on the public roster?

          4. Jens Holm says:

            Its as I tell You. There are minerals.

            Sure many in those areas probatlty only know mobil phones are for carbombs as well.

          5. Jens Holm says:

            excavation is a start. Even oil from Baku started as for lamps replacing the whales:) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/895002d6275dd46b0951f0d6b6cb4c2c945a199ca1af178fc865f100cc19aca0.jpg

          6. Ryan Glantz says:

            if only they’d have been so kind as to disclose what else started there.

          7. Jens Holm says:

            I have been reading about it. You can find something.

            I have most of my informations by brittish writings form Brittish souces. Thats better then the local ones. They have been there sin Baku oil started and even has had Azarbaisian for a while) with the Iraq-Iran as connection.

          8. Ryan Glantz says:

            You don’t want to talk about the pre-Noah lore, eh?

          9. Jens Holm says:

            I actually has a Darwinist scientific book. Its named “Geologi from before the world was made”

            Pre Noah is horrifying for the Muslims all was more drúnk alll the time and more then Russians and Danes are.

          10. Ryan Glantz says:

            Ever hear of “The Chronicle of Akakor” ?

          11. Jens Holm says:

            no. i look up now. what about it…

          12. Ryan Glantz says:

            please ask a real question. You realize Darwin was a satanist right?

          13. Jens Holm says:

            Yes, You told me:(

            I looked up and do kind of know the von Daniken

          14. Ryan Glantz says:

            The Akakor Chronicle is a set of stories written by the tribe of the Ugha Mongulala that used to live in the Amazon jungle in Brazil and that text contains more than 15 thousand years of history, from the arrival of their Gods to the 70’s in our time
            They were originally written in the language of their Ancient
            Masters (Gods) on tree barks. The stories were transmitted orally by
            the prince of the Ugha Mongulala tribe, Tatunca Nara, to the German
            journalist Karl Brugger who was working in Brazil, who recorded the
            whole story on tape and then wrote and published the book in 1976 .

            The chronicle tells the millenary history of South America from the
            perspective of the Ugha Mongulala, the oldest civilization in the
            region, revealing many mysteries that history and archeology have not
            been able to explain for sure to this day, such as the construction of
            Tiahuanaco and Macchu Picchu. Even the location of the city of Akakor of
            the Ugha Mongulala has not been found due to the immensity of the
            Amazon rainforest.
            In chronological form, the first chronicle is the arrival of the
            Ancient Gods or Masters in 13,000 BC from outer space, who selected the
            aboriginal tribes in the area of ​​the Great River (Amazonas) to
            transmit culture and end their savagery , teaching them to cultivate the
            land, to respect the laws of nature and the laws that they themselves
            bequeathed to preserve the common good. They built large cities of stone
            both on the surface and underground, with temples for the worship of
            the Sun, pyramids for spiritual purposes and long tunnels that cross
            underground from the current areas of Peru and Bolivia to Brazil and
            Venezuela. After 3 thousand years after its arrival, the Gods returned
            to their world,
            The history of the Ugha Mongulala manages to move by the amount of
            adversities that had to go through to survive for more than 15 thousand
            years, both natural disasters, wars against other tribes and against the
            “White Barbarians”, the conquerors coming from Europe in the century XV
            and they almost achieved its extinction.
            If to date it has remained totally unknown, it is due to the special
            characteristics of the story and the complete isolation of the peoples
            whose history it refers to. The latest discoveries originated by the
            systematic invasion of the Amazon corroborate the story of Chief Tatunca
            Nara about his people, thus giving credit to something that can no
            longer be ignored.
            The Akakor Chronicle is divided into four parts and covers a period
            of over ten thousand years of the life of the people of Mongulala:
            – The Book of Jaguar deals with the colonization of the Earth by the gods and the period until the second world catastrophe.
            – The Book of the Eagle covers the period between 6000 and 11,000
            (according to its own calendar) and describes the arrival of the Goths.
            – The Book of the Ant, tells the fight against the Spanish and Portuguese colonizers after their landing in Peru and Brazil.

            – The Water Snake Book describes the arrival of 2,000 German soldiers
            to Akakor and their integration with the ugha mongulala people; he also
            predicts a third great catastrophe.
            Karl Brugger nació en Munich y estudió Historia Contemporánea en su
            ciudad natal y en París. Fue corresponsal independiente de radio y
            televisión hasta 1974, y desde entonces trabaja como corresponsal de la
            televisión alemana en Rio de Janeiro. Tras completar sus estudios en
            historia contemporánea y en sociología, partió para América del Sur como
            periodista. Allí tuvo noticias de Akakor. Desde 1974, Brugger era
            asimismo corresponsal de varias emisoras de radio y de televisión de la
            República Federal de Alemania.

            In 1972 he met in Manaus Tatunca Nara, the son of a native
            leader. Manaus is located at the confluence of the Solimoes River and
            the Negro River, that is, in the first half of the Amazon. Tatunca Nara
            is the chief of the Ugha Mongulala, Dhaka and Haisha tribes. Brugger,
            conscientious and skeptical researcher, heard the really incredible
            story that the native told him. After having verified it point by point,
            in 1976 he decided to publish the chronicle he had recorded on tape
            with the title “Die Chronik von Akakor” (The Akakor Chronicle).

          15. Jens Holm says:

            Thanks, I might need something to read in the wintertime. I already has a list.

            Facts are constructions like this might be true or semilar. A lot of coputries – and even big ones – has existed on earth and we have stufied them from we have.

            Writings are important, but we now knpow that advanced people can be advanced with no writings.

            I fx learned in my aerly schoold days, that danes was few and almost all lived in small huts.

            But tech now says we were a very high poplated are with many houses being up 2 400 m2 and we even in the stoneage could cross around in Pur country in real.

            Allbuildings was made of wood and even today they are vidible by versions of radar and lidar. So You might go to Amazonas or anywhere else to see people lived there in more related structures, then we think today.

            Its the same with DNA, which becomes more and more reliable and with more detailes.

            So I do recognize the Rio Negro storry teller might have mpre troth in tellings, then we today think might be true.

            Its very good its taped, so it can be center or and addiction.to Our knowledge of the past.

            I will go to bed. I havnt slept all night here. But If You write more, I will get it by mail.

          16. Ryan Glantz says:

            I presume that line on the border bridging the two areas was a goat herder mountain trail?


          17. Jens Holm says:

            Yes, the the wife of the goat heard is in the front. There are mines. He had two:)

          18. Ryan Glantz says:

            how off color.

          19. Jens Holm says:

            camouflage and stealth

            The same map is in a 6 MB resolotion, but when I send, they often only eat 5 MB, so I had to send the small version, because the 6 MB returned.

  4. cechas vodobenikov says:

    SF has many CIA employees posting here; they call themselves T, bacon, etc
    A railway between turkey and azerbijian will only improve trade—a positive development

    1. Jens Holm says:

      Dont forget to name, they are zioinist Jews too:) and Oligarc Putin is financing them and the rest as a hobby:) .

      He even sell us Afghanistan opium, when we now and then try to get out of hand.

      1. cechas vodobenikov says:

        your racist fascist inferiority complex again displayed from the amerikan colony—u have greater income/wealth disparities than Russia, slightly less than USA, amongst the greatest on earth, excepting a few African, 2 s amerikan nations…never heard of the gini coefficient Jenny? USA controls Afghan opium trade not Russia…apparently you are racist against Jews also

      2. farbat says:

        you clueless person XD

    2. Ryan Glantz says:

      I’m just glad the Russians are monitoring the railway… hopefully they got some nice setup like this


      1. Harry Smith says:

        The video is inaccessible.

        1. Ryan Glantz says:

          Your government must not like you seeing soft disclosure.

  5. Konrad Ingvarssen says:

    How much does the fact that most Azeris are Shia matter to Turkey and Erdogan? How do they see that difference? It does not seem to matter as much to the Turks as it does to Arabs.

    The next question on the table is “What happens in 5 years?” The current deal will be over and I don’t see a reason for the Azeris not to simply say “Okay, we are taking it all back now”. Russia may have a way to discourage that aspiration, but I don’t know what that would be. Five years is a long time though. Things could change.

    1. Jihadi Colin says:

      It means nothing at all. The Ottomans didn’t care who the subjects of their millets were, Jew or Christian or Muslim, or what they got up to, as long as they paid their taxes and tributes. Erdogan’s neo Ottoman Empire is no different.

      I agree absolutely with you about the five years. It’s just a face saver for the Armenians to come up with some kind of deal to hand over the remainder of Nagorno Karabakh within that time.

      1. Ryan Glantz says:

        Reminds me of a certain empire ruled by lizard people…

    2. cechas vodobenikov says:

      I suspect you are correct

  6. farbat says:

    russia is sooner or later going to rape turkey badly because turks thought they could disrespect russia inside russia and on top of it play games with russia trying to make a fool of it and on top of that all they are murdering russians and allies and meanwhile talking nonsense about russian federation subjects and how they supposedly would be pro turkey and soon move towards seperatism when turkey really doesnt understand that its delusions of it being supposedly the master of the world because the world is supposedly filled with turkish people is nothing but delusions and it will hurt them badly at the end of the story specially they are so violently going against an actual civilization state such as russia which eats the likes of turkey to breakfast considering all they did and that russia will crush anyone who does just one of these things

    1. John Brown says:

      Yes Turkic people like everyone else want to be prosperous and make money trading with Russia, China, Iran and the EEU. Turkey is poor and going bankrupt.

  7. farbat says:

    russia might eventually even get bases on turkish western neighborhood thanks to the idiotic erdogan

    1. John Brown says:

      The main part of Azer with the oil has borders with Russia and Iran not Turkey. Russia is by far the superior military power compared to Turkey with the Iranian military also growing rapidly in strength. Also Azer understands it can make lots of money trading with Russia Iran China and the EEU.
      Finally Azer understands they don’t want to be considered to be a threat to Iran and Russia as both could occupy all of Azer in 24 hours if provoked.

      1. ΠΑΡΜΕΝΙΩΝ says:

        See here what happens … that is the reason.NK is full of natural gas. And here is the map with the gas fields in NK …. the purple color is the natural gas.


        Turkey appears where there are deposits and makes the traffic warden. Not at all accidental. The numbers correspond to:
        1) Armenia
        2) Nagorno-Karabakh
        3) Azerbaijan
        4) Agriculture
        5) Russia
        6) Turkey
        7) Nakhchivan
        8) Iran
        Turkey wants to have direct contact with Azerbaijan:

        1) to reach the Silk Road through Azerbaijan
        2) because Azerbaijan has a lot of natural gas and Turkey wants to steal it…
        It is interesting – as shown in the map – that Nagorno-Karabakh is a hotbed of gas,
        as is Skopje. That is why we should not be surprised by the interest of
        the United States and Turkey in this country. By the way, observe the locations of huge deposits in the Caspian Sea and the Black Sea.

        1. Ryan Glantz says:

          Funny story about Turkey, everytime they try to get the local miners to dig out resources, they uncover ancient ruins and technologies that are “out of place’ and they get scared and re-bury them.

          1. ΠΑΡΜΕΝΙΩΝ says:

            Turkey is the “right hand” of another … it does not do all this by chance.

        2. Azat says:

          Check out Pashinyan’s Armenia Is Betrayed by the West While Forgetting the East https://youtu.be/o_6-zf1teWQ

          1. ΠΑΡΜΕΝΙΩΝ says:

            Of course, small and poor Armenia DOES NOT HAVE NATURAL GAS. Azerbaijan has …. with this PV and the pipeline that transports it to Europe … EUROPE will be dependent on Russian gas. !!
            especially now that Russia will control Azeri gas and Europe will not be able to resist the military power of the Eurasian troika that will be strengthened with the power of Turkey.

            This is how the game is played … and now that Turkey will leave NATO … the natural border between West and East will be the Aegean. !!! Since China ‘arrived in the Mediterranean without a war only with the investment agreements with Turkey without dropping a pistol.

        3. goingbrokes says:

          I think you are right, Turkey’s wars are all energy wars, one way or another. Good insight thanks.

  8. cechas vodobenikov says:

    Russian troops will leave nk in 5 years, unless both Azeris/armenians request differently

    1. Sauron says:

      *unless either Azeris/armenians request differently. concent of both is not required as per the signed document.

      1. cechas vodobenikov says:

        I do not predict; I would not be surprised if peace keeping is terminated in 5 years

        1. Sauron says:

          I doubt Russia will pull out so easily.

          1. cechas vodobenikov says:

            false—unless both azeris/armenians consent in 5 years, Russia withdraws troops

  9. Icarus Tanović says:

    Thank you, Turkey, big ass thanks for this. Turnon NK into Russian zone of influence, de facto Russian big military base. Now, Erdogan eat shit.

  10. RichardD says:

    Visitors at my doorstep taken with the night vision filter on my Galaxy S10e. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/629737b9e5d9366722b5aca8602334160a103799193f73b2c69578b6512bbbcb.jpg

    1. Ryan Glantz says:

      better watch out, I hear the s10’s are dangerous with the emf in high ghz.

    2. Jens Holm says:

      Galaxy 10s are sucide phone. After using them 1001 Holy Nights, they detonate as Russian roulette in 2 of 6.

      If You look at the small letters at the battery, You can see its made by the Nobel industries. Its the same kind of explosives as in the Carl Gustavs and the US update of it from Kongsberg.

      1. cechas vodobenikov says:

        FINNS/SWEDES/RUSSIANS manufacture smartphones–u produce cheese

  11. Boxman says:

    South Front is trying real hard to spin this into some kind of victory for Russia, when in reality this was nothing more than damage control; Russia’s last ditch effort to salvage some measure of influence from yet another foreign policy reversal. Victory has eluded Russia in Syria thanks largely to Erdogan refusing to pull out of Idlib, Libya was looking like the next Russian client up until Erdogan intervened, now we have this new front and the loss of an old Russian ally in Armenia. The defeats are beginning to stack up, and Erdogan is behind most of them.

    1. cechas vodobenikov says:

      more CIA boxy thinking—Russia has made USA/turkey irrelevant in Syria—only 12% territory now occupied by ISIS/amerikan/kurdy/turkey troops in Syria. your brain reversed…Russian policy consistent…Russia has little interest in Libya–it is the , French, Greece, Egyptians,LNA that oppose illegitimate GNA turkey—this required Turkey to withdraw from the outskirts of Sirte
      hopefully the CIA pays for your LSD

        1. cechas vodobenikov says:

          u like amerikans live in future; we live in present…this is why you don’t know yourself…keep striving for success…there is cheese in your old age home

      1. Jens Holm says:

        Crap again.

        1. cechas vodobenikov says:

          projecting your ignorance, insecurity–

      2. Kohlhaas says:

        You are wrong, almost half of Syria is still not in the hands of Assad.

        1. Jesus says:

          Americans are withdrawing from eastern Syria.

          1. Kohlhaas says:

            They are “withdrawing” from Iraq and Afghanistan too. Let’s see the action first.

          2. Jesus says:

            The American position in Iraq and Afghanistan is tenuous at best, they are treading water and are constant targets. Weakening forces or withdrawal from Iraq will result in the collapse of its defenses in Syria.
            The new Pentagon appointed chief made a statement of withdrawal of forces from Syria after a couple of days he was appointed.

          3. cechas vodobenikov says:

            agree! US withdraws troops, replaces with private militias or proxies

        2. cechas vodobenikov says:

          not according to repots at SF and elsewhere, unless u consider Israeli occupied golan

      3. Harry Smith says:

        I think it is a strategic victory of triple alliance of Iran, Russia and Turkey. The strategical goals were reached by everyone.

    2. Ryan Glantz says:

      Russia is playing a heroic role, they’re the true King of the North, if you haven’t figured that out.

      1. Jens Holm says:

        Ha ha. More like they like Turkey, Iran and Minsk less:)

    3. Jens Holm says:

      Yes damage control. The Minsk group says same thing.

    4. Jesus says:

      Idlib is not much to the Russians, it will come a point in time when Russia is going to have the Turks over the barrel and they will withdraw. In Libya Russia kept a Wagner force in place of maybe a couple of thousand while Turkey brought close to 20,000 mercenaries. Russia and allies are still is in position of control of over half of Libya including Sirte and oil deposits. Russia learned it needs a more robust presence of combined arms on the ground, and ships off the Libyan cost to prevent Turkish electronic jamming along the coastline.

  12. Sauron says:

    Seems like Azerbaijan is inviting Turkish troops as a counterbalance to the Russian presence. Apparently not many trust Russian peacemakers after 2008.

    1. cechas vodobenikov says:

      apparently u r stupid

      1. Sauron says:

        I never said it is included in NK. Apparently the stupid one here is not me:)))

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