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Russia Gives US Red Line on Venezuela

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Written by Finian Cunningham; Originally appeared on strategic-culture.org

At a high-level meeting in Rome this week, it seems that Russia reiterated a grave warning to the US – Moscow will not tolerate American military intervention to topple the Venezuelan government with whom it is allied.

Meanwhile, back in Washington DC, President Donald Trump was again bragging that the military option was still on the table, in his press conference with Brazilian counterpart Jair Bolsonaro. Trump is bluffing or not yet up to speed with being apprised of Russia’s red line.

The meeting in the Italian capital between US “special envoy” on Venezuelan affairs Elliot Abrams and Russia’s deputy foreign minister Sergei Ryabkov had an air of urgency in its arrangement. The US State Department announced the tête-à-tête only three days beforehand. The two officials also reportedly held their two-hour discussions in a Rome hotel, a venue indicating ad hoc arrangement.

Russia Gives US Red Line on Venezuela

Abrams is no ordinary diplomat. He is a regime-change specialist with a criminal record for sponsoring terrorist operations, specifically the infamous Iran-Contra affair to destabilize Nicaragua during the 1980s. His appointment by President Trump to the “Venezuela file” only underscores the serious intent in Washington for regime change in Caracas. Whether it gets away with that intent is another matter.

Moscow’s interlocutor, Sergei Ryabkov, is known to not mince his words, having earlier castigated Washington for seeking global military domination. He calls a spade a spade, and presumably a criminal a criminal.

The encounter in Rome this week was described as “frank” and “serious” – which is diplomatic code for a blazing exchange. The timing comes at a high-stakes moment, after Venezuela having been thrown into chaos last week from civilian power blackouts that many observers, including the Kremlin, blame on American cyber sabotage. The power grid outage followed a failed attempt by Washington to stage a provocation with the Venezuelan military over humanitarian aid deliveries last month from neighboring Colombia.

The fact that Washington’s efforts to overthrow the elected President Nicolas Maduro have so far floundered, might suggest that the Americans are intensifying their campaign to destabilize the country, with the objective of installing US-backed opposition figure Juan Guaido. He declared himself “acting president” in January with Washington’s imprimatur.

Given that the nationwide power blackouts seem to have failed in fomenting a revolt by the civilian population or the military against Maduro, the next option tempting Washington could be the military one.

It seems significant that Washington has recently evacuated its last remaining diplomats from the South American country. US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo commented on the evacuation by saying that having US personnel on the ground “was limiting” Washington’s scope for action. Also, American Airlines reportedly cancelled all its services to Venezuela in the past week. Again, suggesting that the US was considering a military intervention, either directly with its troops or covertly by weaponizing local proxies. The latter certainly falls under Abrams’ purview.

After the Rome meeting, Ryabkov said bluntly: “We assume that Washington treats our priorities seriously, our approach and warnings.”

One of those warnings delivered by Ryabkov is understood to have been that no American military intervention in Venezuela will be tolerated by Moscow.

For his part, Abrams sounded as if he had emerged from the meeting after having been given a severe reprimand. “No, we did not come to a meeting of minds, but I think the talks were positive in the sense that both sides emerged with a better understanding of the other’s views,” he told reporters.

“A better understanding of the other’s views,” means that the American side was given a red line to back off.

The arrogance of the Americans is staggering. Abrams seems, according to US reporting, to have flown to Rome with the expectation of working out with Ryabkov a “transition” or “compromise” on who gets the “title of president” of Venezuela.

That’s what he no doubt meant when he said after the meeting “there was not a meeting of minds”, but rather he got “a better understanding” of Russia’s position.

Washington’s gambit is a replay of Syria. During the eight-year war in that country, the US continually proffered the demand of a “political transition” which at the end would see President Bashar al Assad standing down. By contrast, Russia’s unflinching position on Syria has always been that it’s not up to any external power to decide Syria’s politics. It is a sovereign matter for the Syrian people to determine independently.

Nearly three years after Russia intervened militarily in Syria to salvage the Arab country from a US-backed covert war for regime change, the American side has manifestly given up on its erstwhile imperious demands for “political transition”. The principle of Syrian sovereignty has prevailed, in large part because of Russia’s trenchant defense of its Arab ally.

Likewise, Washington, in its incorrigible arrogance, is getting another lesson from Russia – this time in its own presumed “back yard” of Latin America.

It’s not a question of Russia being inveigled by Washington’s regime-change schemers about who should be president of Venezuela and “how we can manage a transition”. Moscow has reiterated countless times that the legitimate president of Venezuela is Nicolas Maduro whom the people voted for last year by an overwhelming majority in a free and fair election – albeit boycotted by the US-orchestrated opposition.

The framework Washington is attempting to set up of choosing between their desired “interim president” and incumbent Maduro is an entirely spurious one. It is not even worthy to be discussed because it is a gross violation of Venezuela’s sovereignty. Who is Washington to even dare try to impose its false choice?

On Venezuela, Russia is having to remind the criminal American rulers – again – about international law and respect for national sovereignty, as Moscow earlier did with regard to Syria.

And in case Washington gets into a huff and tries the military option, Moscow this week told regime-change henchman Abrams that that’s a red line. If Washington has any sense of rationale left, it will know from its Syria fiasco that Russia has Venezuela’s back covered.

Political force is out. Military force is out. Respect international law and Venezuela’s sovereignty. That’s Russia’s eminently reasonable ultimatum to Washington.

Now, the desperate Americans could still try more sabotage, cyber or financial. But their options are limited, contrary to what Trump thinks.

How the days of American imperialist swagger are numbered. There was a time when it could rampage all over Latin America. Not any more, evidently. Thanks in part to Russia’s global standing and military power.

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  • Jesus

    “””On Venezuela, Russia is having to remind the criminal American rulers – again – about international law and respect for national sovereignty, as Moscow earlier did with regard to Syria.”””

    Russian Syria playbook to be used to defeat Zionist plans to plunder Venezuela and throw it into chaos. Of course, low profile presence of Russian presence in and around Venezuela is to be expected, submarines, some commercial vessels that are armed with Kalibr missiles, contractors, technicians keeping Russian weaponry sold to Venezuela in top condition….etc.
    While US relies on bandit/criminal methodology to pursue their goals, Russia and allies will rely on international law and and respect of national sovereignty ( relying on soft and hard power), handing US another major defeat.

  • Eskandar Black

    Maduro is a horrible criminal. The people of venezuela are suffering and dying and the country is in a total state of decay. The best thing that could have happened is that the Maduro regime gets removed, via assassination or any other means. Deeply disappointed with sending Russians to Venezuela. Unlike Syria, in Venezuela, the population deeply hates maduro, and is mostly kept prisoner by Maduro’s cuban security forces. When the local finally turn violent, there wont be enough supporters to keep Maduro from getting dismembered in the public square. I have a coke and a few arepas waiting to enjoy the show.

    • LR captain

      leave now, this is not a forum for you.
      you are only gonna piss people off.
      we heard your stupid opinion over and over by CNN

      • Eskandar Black

        You can fuck right off.

        • LR captain

          1 like for your comment 7 likes for mine
          also i don’t up vote my own comments.
          i think my has been proven.

          • Eskandar Black

            Oh, well that means you are right, so fuck right off then.

          • LR captain

            If you do not put your comments forward in a civilized manner, you only shame yourself. I suppose your having a bad day. -ronald

            I respond to comments based on their quality, thank you for your opinion -eskandar black.

            look man I told you what would happen and did not sugar coat it I was blunt very blunt.

            and no i will not “F**K off” as you call it i will keep reading and replying as i see fit because we have no real freedom of speech online and what were allowed to say is based off of the terms of service and what mods allow.

          • Mike

            I got better idea why don’t you fuck off permanently.

        • Mike

          No why don’t you fuck off permanently.

      • zman

        It’s best not to feel the troll. I blocked him a long time ago. A great side-effect is that it cured my nausea.

        • LR captain

          it was more of warning in my opinion, i also keep forgetting that some are paid trolls though.

    • ecald12

      The toilet is your best forum, Eskandar.

      • Eskandar Black

        in a sense that you are shit?

        • Ronald

          If you do not put your comments forward in a civilized manner, you only shame yourself. I suppose your having a bad day.

          • Eskandar Black

            I respond to comments based on their quality, thank you for your opinion.

          • Mike

            Yeah that response really show quality, you deluded shit.

        • Mike

          Well you are shit.

        • Ewan

          No, in a sense that shit like you needs to get flushed.

    • Tudor Miron

      Try harder trolly. Creatures of your kind need to work harder to earn those shekels.

      • Eskandar Black

        Tudor, dont be such an asshole, you and I agree on Syria, mostly, disagree on venezuela. Suck it up buttercup

        • Mike

          So your full of shit on Syria like everything you post you worthless piece of alt-right neonazi zionist worshiping pile of trash, your lying worthless hypocrite there miami.

    • Promitheas Apollonious

      is retard your family name, or you are just a paid moron writing from yellow notes?

      • Eskandar Black

        I am paid generally, but not to be here and express my informed opinion. Unlike the rest of you clowns, i know a lot about venezuela, and have spent a lot of time there. But keep talking shit like you know something.

        • Monte George Jr

          You either know nothing about Venezuela, or you are lying, as I (and other posters) have detailed above.

          • Eskandar Black

            well, you are welcome to have you idiot theories, hasta luego

          • Mike

            Got nothing better to reply there miami.

        • Promitheas Apollonious

          what I do know is you dont know, where your ass from second place is, beside been a hasbara tool.

        • Promitheas Apollonious

          beside been a whore who try to hide it but the joy will not allow her to do so……. and that you are a retard due to family degenerated dna, due to too much mixing among you.

    • john

      So you’re calling for the elected president of a foreign country to be assassinated? The population deeply hates Maduro and he’s a horrible criminal based on what you heard on CNN last night? The people just elected Maduro President by overwhelming majority you fucking lying clown. You sound like a total idiot, and a violent one who thinks starting wars to overthrow governments is fun. You and Bolton should me made to fight on the front lines of the invasion you’re asking for.

      • Eskandar Black

        Generally, you and i agree, i mean philosophically. But there are unique situations. For example, i think fighting Hitler was a good idea. Its possible for people to disagree and still have a conversation. I am absolutely calling for a horrible violent death for maduro, to demoralize as many of his men as possible and reduce a possibility of a violent civil war. I am hoping for the death and dismemberment of Maduro, his family and others around him so as to chase cuban intelligence infiltrators out of Venezuela, and give it back to its people. Further, i hope russia can find a way to work with the new government, and recognize the futility of their current course.

        • john

          Well you’re a violent sick person calling to violently remove the elected government of someone else’s country. Why? Are you from Venezuela? If not than where did you hear about Maduro’s “crimes” and what crimes did he commit? Maduro is the elected President of Venezuela, a majority of the people voted for him. I know that Cuba has been a longtime ally of Venezuela and there are 20k Cuban doctors currently helping Venezuelans. I don’t think there are any “infiltrators” because any military advisors or the doctors have been invited in by the Government and people. Seriously, where did you get this violent hatred of Maduro? CNN? MSNBC? FOX? There’s not going to be a new government until next election, and I’m sure Russia will work them too.

          • Eskandar Black

            I am not a violent person, but i think there are times violence is called for, like when you deal with a violent tyrant that uses violence to terrorize and entire population. Maduro is no longer the president of venezuela, he was removed, according to the rules of the venezulas constitution. Whether he was or was not rightfully elected, or cheated his way to the top is precisely the issue. Cuba sends poorly trained, 2years of educations, idiots to poorly treat people in venezuela, in a slave labor scheme to secure oil(true). There are multiple layers of cuban infiltrators, from the highest levels of office, to the army, to the security agencies and the police, you obviously dont know much about it. I spent a lot of time in venezuela. I have family there, even now. I get daily updates, on Maduro crimes.

          • john

            Maduro was just elected as President. He has not been removed. Some CIA clown that never even ran declared himself President based on a rule that says the President of the National Assembly will be president for 30 days until a new election if the President is missing, sick, or cannot assume office. None of these requirements are true, as Maduro isn’t sick or missing and was sworn in after he was legally elected. LOL-
            “Cuba sends poorly trained, 2years of educations, idiots to poorly treat people in venezuela, in a slave labor scheme to secure oil(true).” ” I get daily updates, on Maduro crimes.” Hahaha..Ok buddy, you’re an idiot. A violent, repulsive idiot calling for yet another war of aggression for non-democratic regime change. You’re disgusting.

          • Eskandar Black

            thanks for your propaganda talking points, let people judge for themselves.

          • john

            The people did decide, they just had an election. I didn’t state anything but facts, you can go look at the Venezuelan constitution, its online.

          • Eskandar Black

            you are stating inaccurate propaganda. The assembly, as in people’s elected representatives decided to remove maduro, correctly, although he remains, against the law.

          • john

            You’re just making stuff up now. There is nothing in the Constitution that says the National Assembly can remove the president. Article 233: The President of the Republic shall become permanently unavailable to serve by reason of any of the following events: death; resignation; removal from office by decision of the Supreme Tribunal of Justice; permanent physical or mental disability certified by a medical board designated by the Supreme Tribunal of Justice. Maduro won the election and was sworn in. He’s not dead, sick, unavailable..etc. The National Assembly cannot “decide to remove” the elected president. Like I said the constitution is available online so go read it and tell me where it says that. I’m stating facts you can look up, I’ve said nothing related to propaganda. Do you have a link to the article where you heard the lie you just posted, or did you just make it up ?

          • Eskandar Black

            Actually they can, precisely as they did.

          • john

            Can you show me where it says that in the Constitution? You’re lying.

          • Eskandar Black

            Under article 233, the Parliament may declare the president absent from
            office, thus requiring that a new universal, direct, and secret election
            be held within the following thirty consecutive days. In the meantime,
            the President of the National Assembly is to serve as the interim
            president of the republic. This provision could be cited for the purpose of contesting a fraudulent election.

            Its pretty clear that the fact that you even attempt to lie an inaccurately cite the veneuzlan constitution you are either a venezulan propaganda officer or a cuban intelligence troll.

          • john

            I cited it perfectly. Maduro isn’t missing or absent from office, as you know full well. He’s in excellent health and was sworn in after winning the election. “This provision could be cited for the purpose of contesting a fraudulent election.”-is just something you made up, its not in the Constitution, further Guido hasn’t called for new elections, and 30 days is up. Also there’s never been any evidence presented by Guido or Bolton or anybody that the election was fruadulent at all.

          • john

            Anyways, you just keep telling lies that you know full well aren’t true, and you’re calling for a war to violently overthrow the elected government of a country that is not your own, you’re a liar and war propagandist, so end of conversation. You should sign up for the US military if you want to overthrow or invade other countries so much. Or at least go become a paid liar for CNN or something.

          • Eskandar Black

            I might, but i dont follow orders well, and this way i have more time to watch the barbarians who support maduro get slaughtered, which is inevitable.

          • Mike

            Have you ever killed anyone or fought anyone miami, come one making death threats or wishing doesn’t make you Rambo, you fat pathetic GMO eating yankee chicken shit.

          • Monte George Jr

            “… since Maduro totally abandoned the law …”. More lies. Maduro has scrupulously followed the law. The Assembly violated the law when it seated several fraudulently elected members in direct contempt of the ruling of the Venezuelan supreme court; with the result that the Assembly is held in contempt and its actions invalid until they comply with the law and constitution.

          • Eskandar Black

            Maduro the law abider! just ask the kidnapped, the robbed, the killed, the imprisoned and the starved.

          • Monte George Jr

            Kidnapped? Oh you must mean the (aborted!) kidnapping of Hugo Chavez durig the attempted coup by Carmoa, et al in 2002. Killed? Perhaps you refer to the beheading (stretched wires across the roadway) of motorcyclists by your “opposition” friends in that same year. Robbed and starved? You mean the 1.5 billion of Venezuela gold stolen by the Brits, or the Citgo Assets confiscated in USA, or payments due for Venezuelan oil from Chevron ullified by US sanctions? Imprisoned? After the attempted coup of 2002 and the kidnapping of the President of Venezuela, Carmona got house arrest, the rest of the traitors walked free – so who went to prison? And Random Guaido, a notorious traitor who actually solicited foreign support to invade his country and overturn it’s elected government is still free as a bird (would not happen in USA, rest assured). The horrible, oppressive Venezuelan dictatorship is a figment of your fevered imagination.

          • Eskandar Black

            No i refer to the organized semi government sponsored gangs that kidnap local citizens for ransom. All your bullshit is just ridiculous propaganda. The reason Venezuelans hate Maduro is simple, he has destroyed the economy and made the country unlivable. Keep pretending if you like, but the truth shall set you free.

          • Mike

            So how is gusano’s popularity going if what you say is true, GMO’s really rot your brain buttercup.

          • Monte George Jr

            Any “government sponsored” criminals in Venezuela are sponsored by the US and/or Israeli governments, not the govt. of Venezuela. The only Venezuelans who “hate Maduro” are those descended from the Spanish colonizers. Real (Negro Y Indio) Venezuelans are mostly supportive of their government. The economy there has been damaged by sanctions and outright theft by the USA/Brittain, not the government. Living conditions for the indigenous (majority) population have been vastly improved by the “bread and bricks” programs (hated and despised by the local Spaniards and Americans) of the Bolivarian administrations of Chavez and Maduro. The failure of sanctions to bring down the govt there have prompted the USA to take desperate measures like attacking the power facilities and declaring an imposter that few Venezuelans ever heard of to be the new president of the republic. The lack of popular popular support for the US-appointed “president” is deafening. This failure has prompted desperate threats of military action against Venezuela (which the Russians quickly put a stop to!) and sanctions against third party nations who trade with Venezuela.

            “The Truth…”, you say? You wouldn’t know the truth if it bit you in the ass, which it will, and soon.

          • Eskandar Black

            what a bunch of bullshit

          • Mike

            Kid’s don’t eat American food, this idiot is proof of what it does to your brain.

          • RichardD

            You’re a lying, idiotic, inflammatory troll talking out of both sides of your mouth making a complete fool out of yourself.

          • Mike

            When you can’t win an argument always accuse those who disagree with you as being foreign nebulous agents, again pathetic.

          • Mike

            Oh and idiot, if the president was absent as the constitution states “which he isn’t”, then its the vice-president who takes over, not the puppet boy you rotted brain claims. Moron.

          • Monte George Jr

            Liar.

          • Eskandar Black

            You are committed to lying on his behalf, i mean your pretty much have to to keep the cubans from killing your family.

          • Mike

            You make such stupid claims and yet you claim to teach English, oh man your students are getting so ripped, your a scummy little scam.

          • Mike

            Full of shit there miami.

          • Mike

            Your not Venezuelan and you have no right to say which leader they choose, so please fuck of you alt-right nazi yankee.

          • john

            BTW, its strange someone like you is on Southfront. I assume you want to violently overthrow the “criminal” “dictator” Assad too? Who’s you’re Juan Guido for Syria? The leader of Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham? Or is it Al Baghdadi?

          • Eskandar Black

            Bad assumptions. I support Assad, who is supported by his people, and most of the attacks on him were foreign in origin.

          • Monte George Jr

            The attacks on Maduro and his people are also of foreign (US, Israeli) origin.

          • Eskandar Black

            delusional

          • Mike

            Yeah fascist racist nazis like you are delusional.

          • Promitheas Apollonious

            you confuse a paid hasbara and a retard with fascist.

          • Mike

            Fuck off you don’t support Assad you stupid alt-right fuck, you are lying sack of shit you are pro empire like every two bit white trash yankee from miami are.

          • Mike

            Rich coming from someone who supports another intervention in country that’s none of your business you fascist GMO eating prick.

          • Mike

            Again quit lying your previous post show that while to cowardly to do anything like you claim, you are indeed a clinical psychopath, with you obsession of killing individuals, your constant use of racism, and you belief and spreading of lies and insults. Your a violent coward at least be honest there miami.

          • Mike

            Again instead of making these claims why don’t you back anything with links or evidence, oh you can’t. All your pathetic post are full of hot and no substance just like you as person, your a pathetic weaselly lying brown shirt american coward.

          • Turbofan

            “I am not a violent person”.. I think Ted Bundy said that too..

          • Antikapitalista

            Maduro is not a violent tyrant, you moron.

            If he were, there would be a lot of bloodshed in Venezuela, which there isn’t.
            And Guaidó would have been long dead, but he is still alive and well.

            Entire population? You pathetic moron, you do not have the slightest clue about the structure of the Venezuelan society! :-DDD

            No, Maduro has not been removed. And certainly not according to the rules constitution of Venezuela.
            You can’t have seen it in your entire life, so read it:
            http://www.cne.gob.ve/web/normativa_electoral/constitucion/indice.php

            Only the court knows the law, and the Supreme court of Venezuela annulled the act passed by the National Assembly. Quite obviously, since it relied on Article 233, which stipulates that in the case of complete absence of the president-elect, which is just nonsense stretched beyond pale, as President Maduro is very much present, as much as he could possibly be, and he even lets everyone know that he is present. Thus, to derive one’s authority from an article that says about absence sounds like a race for lunatism.

            You can’t have been to Venezuela during the past 15 years.

          • Eskandar Black

            The supreme court is a bunch of maduro puppets, there are actually 2 supreme courts. Its all rather complicated. I will say you are a moron since you support maduro, but have a nice day.

        • Mike

          Then why don’t you go there Rambo and show how its done, instead of posting hot air with out evidence you keyboard nazi alt-right GMO eating yankee coward.

        • Antikapitalista

          Actually, you an uneducated moron.
          And it is not possible to have a meaningful conversation with an uneducated moron.
          The Allies, in fact, did not want to kill Adolf Hitler, because he was such an incompetent military leader that someone far more competent would have replaced him.
          In fact, the assassination attempts at Adolf Hitler had gone horribly wrong, which only served to strengthen his ideas. And Adolf Hitler was a very charismatic man.
          Thus, you would achieve the complete opposite. It would not “demoralize” any of his men to the point of giving up, not at all; in fact, quite the opposite would happen, as it would be a clear indication to them that it were their turn.
          In fact, that would sharply escalate the things that hitherto have been benign. First of all, it is against the constitution of Venezuela to kill Nicolás Maduro.
          This is important because precisely these legal barriers have prevented thing from going down the path of mass bloodshed.
          Juan Guaidó, this clownish fraudster, has enjoyed the freedom of going around the globe and pretending to be Venezuela’s president. No country in the world would tolerate such a case.
          And yet Juan Guaidó is free because the Venezuelan constitution guarantees him legal immunity.
          If you murdered Nicolás Maduro, his supporters would stop being so reticent and would go on a preventive killing spree.

          Oh yeah, it is probably your staggering stupidity that cements your childishly simplistic views and melts the checkpoints that wiser people in formulating their opinions.

          In other words, your confidence stems right from your stupidity and does away with all the complicated details in favour of a rowdy macho roar.
          Thanks God, if there is one, that you have no power or control outside your anal sphincters. Because if you happened to have any more power, in the end you would surely lose control even of your anal sphincters.

          Ah, unfortunately, it is an inevitable fact that stupid people like you voice their opinions most confidently. Because if there were wise, not only they would have their doubts, but, more importantly, they would know their limits. The childish fools like you do not know their limits, the limits of their ideas, they just cannot figure out the consequences. That is a necessary part of their being stupid. If they were wiser, they would know all of this.
          Nevertheless, it still amazes me when overconfident morons want to preach on a subject about which they are completely clueless.
          So, you stupid, clueless moron, Nicolás Maduro is a mere figurehead. He is not a demigod controlling his people.
          I do understand that is so hard for you, childish morons, to comprehend it. You, being so stupid, cannot even think in abstract terms, you simply need a face on which you could aim your anger because you are so stupid that you simply need to have your anger funnelled in this way in order for it to be funnelled effectively.
          What you so miserably fail to understand is that Maduro has already more or less resigned and has handed out the power to the real powerbrokers.
          In fact, the purported reason why you hate Nicolas Maduro has precisely to with his handing over the power to the powerbrokers. That is why he is so stable and cannot be toppled.

          You may hate the power pyramid that he has created, but it is quite questionable how much of it was his own initiative and how much of it was provoked by essentially illegal external pressure, such as by the United States of Aggression. And the Venezuelan society is structured in such a way that there are many sources of power there are many sources of power in Venezuela, possibly far greater that you are able to imagine, even if you were somehow enlightened.

          For example, what do you know about the powerful non-governmental organizations? Most likely nothing, which is obvious from the way that you always keep parroting the same nonsense about Nicolás Maduro.

          And what “new government of Venezuela” are you talking about?? The one chosen in Washington??? :-D
          Sorry, but Guaidó is virtually nobody, he has virtually no power in Venezuela. He is just a groomed puppet of his masters of Washington.

          And what do you have against “Cuban intelligence infiltrators (what???), you brainwashed moron, except the knee-jerk grudge that you have apparently been fed from the cradle, of course?? :-D
          Oh, by the way, why do you wish for the death of Nicolás Maduro and his family…? Because you are like Adolf Hitler? Because it was exactly that in Nazi Germany, they called it „Sippenhaftung“.

    • grumpy_carpenter

      The poverty level in Venezuela decreased from 48% in 2001 before Chavez to 22% today. People are suffering in Venezuela because of US sanctions and speculative hoarding by Venezuelan elite NOT by the actions of Maduro or the Chavistas.

      To say the population hates Maduro has no basis in fact. The proof being the complete lack of traction the US backed coup is getting, the steadfast backing maduro has from the military and the fact that every protest the rebels mount has to be in rich neighborhoods and are generally shadowed by much larger counter demonstrations supporting maduro.

      Maduro’s biggest crimes are giving oil to Venezuela’s poorest neighbors at terms that they can afford while they refuse to sell oil to US refineries or allow US companies to manage their oil resources.

      • Eskandar Black

        ‘The poverty level in Venezuela decreased from 48% in 2001 before Chavez

        to 22% today. People are suffering in Venezuela because of US sanctions

        and speculative hoarding by Venezuelan elite NOT by the actions of

        Maduro or the Chavistas.

        ‘This is total nonsense. Venezuela went from being an incredibly wealthy nation where people lived very well to a place where people cant get tooth paste and die from third world disease. You know nothing about it, or are just quoting regime propaganda.

        ‘To say the population hates Maduro has no basis in fact. The proof being

        the complete lack of traction the US backed coup is getting, the

        steadfast backing maduro has from the military and the fact that every

        protest the rebels mount has to be in rich neighborhoods and are

        generally shadowed by much larger counter demonstrations supporting

        maduro.’

        You are obviously not present on the ground, or know little about it. Majority of people in venezuela hate maduro, the vast majority. Millions have fled the country. Do you even understand the meaning of that?

        ‘Maduro’s biggest crimes are giving oil to Venezuela’s poorest neighbors
        at terms that they can afford while they refuse to sell oil to US
        refineries or allow US companies to manage their oil resources.’

        The US doesnt care about Maduros oil. The problem is that he has created a narco cartel state which trades with marxist governments, sponsors terrorists, and makes life unlivable in venezuela, similar to cuba, likely because it is the same people running both places.

        We disagree.

        • grumpy_carpenter

          No Venezuela went from being an incredibly wealthy nation where the elite lived very well and the poor were forgotten to a nation where the elite didn’t suffer but didn’t grow fantastically wealthy and many millions were raised out of poverty.

          The USA doesn’t go for that. Wealth belongs to the rich alone and the poor can go fuck themselves. Make America Great again …. go step on a poor persons neck and grind them into the dirt.

          • Eskandar Black

            The point is that the venezulan elections are a joke by venezulean state narco cartel.

          • grumpy_carpenter

            Apparently Jimmy Carter has a different opinion.

            Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter, founder of the Carter Center, said: “Of the 92 elections that we’ve monitored, I would say that the election process in Venezuela is the best in the world.”

          • Eskandar Black

            Jimmy carter is a notorious idiot, his approval of something is a sure sign that it is bad.

          • vlom2441

            Your are a bigger one. You have been watching Fox News, CNN and MSNBC to much. You have been lobotomized. Feel sorry for the degree of ignorance that you have.

          • Eskandar Black

            blah blah blah nothing interesting here

          • Mike

            Again that’s your best reply, miami.

          • Mike

            Then don’t come here miami.

          • Mike

            Again have done anything or traveled any ware to back up you claim you ignoramus shitstain from miami.

          • Monte George Jr

            “venezulan elections are a joke” More lies. Venezuelan elections are the fairest and most transparent (protected by audit trail and automatic review of >50% of ballots) of any on earth.

          • Eskandar Black

            comedy

          • Mike

            Comedy is you pathetic excuse of what passes for an election in yankeestan where your blowhard hero Trump won with less then the popular vote, not that Hillary is any better. Fix your own fucking elections and politics before daring to preach at other on who to vote fore hypocritical american slime bag.

          • vlom2441

            The number drug runner in the world is the CIA.

          • Eskandar Black

            whats your point?

          • Mike

            Cant reply to facts, just like you can’t back up what you claim miami.

          • Mike

            The point is your loser opiod GMO taking loser.

          • Mike

            Narco cartel are America’s friends like the Colombian government and its elites, oh hell your own CIA ran drugs in to you country. Your probably on the opiods supplied by the biggest cartel of them all American big pharma, America and its lackeys are the real narco states, and you are clearly an eager user.

          • zman

            Wow! Could not have said it any better.

        • Monte George Jr

          More lies. “Majority of people in venezuela hate maduro”. The largest demonstration against Maduro numbered about 100,000 people. The pro-Maduro march on the following day numbered aboout 400,000. Mighty strange ‘majority’ I have to say.

          The truth is that the privileged minority of Spanish colonial descent hate Maduro and despise the Black/Indian indigenous majority. The supporters of the Bolivarian Revolution outnumber any other faction in Venezuela, and they are going to win this. If you nave family in Venezuela, as you claim, you should help them to join you in Florida before the natives run out of patience and rip them to shreds.

          • Eskandar Black

            The fact that life in Venezuela has become basically unsustainable thanks to the socialists who took over that country is a fact. the rest of your bullshit is just bullshit

          • Mike

            Sure, please link and pictures otherwise shut fuck up, loser.

        • Mike

          That wasn’t Bolton said, but junkie nazi like you doesn’t accept the existence of facts.

        • Mike

          You have never been to Colombia and know some real poverty and narco run terrorist state, you know nothing o Latin america or the world, you have traveled no where and seen nothing. You are an ignorant idiot and coward behind a computer.

        • Antikapitalista

          He at least presented some figures. You could have disputed them, but you only brushed them away with bullshit talk.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Venezuela#/media/File:INE_Venezuela_poverty_rate_1990_to_2013.png

          Venezuela was never an incredibly wealthy nation. It was flash and bling in the centres of the cities, but it was woeful poverty everywhere else.

          According to independent analysts’ estimates published a few months ago, Venezuela had lost about 6 000 000 000 USD as a result of the sanctions imposed by the United States of Aggression.
          It is comparable to the healthcare expenditures of the U.S. government. Thus, the effect must be felt all the more in today’s Venezuela.
          And it translates to about 30 000 000 USD per day day.

          On the other hand, the so-called bumanitarian aid provided by a U.S. governmental agency, which was the subject of media circus for several weeks, was worth only 20 000 000 USD.

          Thus, the United States of Aggression was pulling of a media curius about the supply of humanitarian aid worth a mere 16 hours of U.S-imposed sanctions of Venezuela.

          But Venezuela itself has a population of almost 32 000 000 people. Thus, even those millions refugees are merely like 10 5 – 11 % of the Venezuelan population.

          For comparison, I come from Slovakia, a supposedly rich country in the EU, yet as many as 200 000 – 250 000 had to leave Slovakia, mostly because of unfavourable economic pressure. That is, relatively speaking, almost a half of the of Venezuela refugees.

          • Eskandar Black

            Well, thanks for your input, its trash, bullshit propaganda, but i dont have time for this. I know Venezuela, you are just reciting leftist, trash propaganda

    • albu dumitru

      You are horrible! You are a shame for human race.

      • Eskandar Black

        so i keep hearing from the idiots, thank you.

        • Mike

          Guano lost get over it miami.

    • Real Anti-Racist Action

      Maduro is a moron when it comes to economics because the Venezuelans themselves are morons when it comes to growing their own food. But hey, the people democratically voted him in!
      It is no bodies business but the legal citizens of Venezuela. (just as hat goes on in the US is no bodies business but the legal citizens of the US only)
      If the people vote to starve, then that is their free will to do so.
      Let evolution takes its course.
      If the people wont plant their own food. If the people wont vote for hard work over socialism handouts. If the people wont stage their own organic-Revolution without any outsiders.
      Then they deserve their fate. Good riddance. We are not going to babysit Venezuelan’s any longer.
      Bunch of babies.

      • Eskandar Black

        interesting opinion, maybe Cuba and Russia should stay out of venezuela also.

        • Marvin Joel Zavala López

          How many cokes and arepas will you need to see the killing of a person in a public square???
          Sure you enjoy watching Caliphate’s decapitation videos in Syria.
          Disgusting motherfuckers like you shuldn’t be allowed to breed.

          • Eskandar Black

            Maduro is responsible for death and starvation of thousands of people. I will celebrate his death.

          • Mike

            Your pathetic miami, go back to poisining your brain with GMO’s

        • Mike

          Your pathetic miami, go back to poisining your brain with GMO’s.

    • Concrete Mike

      I dont care what people say about maduro.

      I told you before, unless he puts babies on his cornflakes in the morning, we have no business telling venezuelans who should lead them. Its up to them.

      • Eskandar Black

        Fair enough mike, but its personal to me. I hate seeing good people starved, robbed and murdered. Whatever you think of Maduro, his regime is a horror show.

        • Mike

          Again post me pictures of skeletal people there, evidence you loser.

    • El Mashi

      ” I have a coke and a few arepas waiting to enjoy the show.”
      You honesty overwhelms me. You are in Colombia doing coke and waiting for the Yanquis to bring in their puppet. You’ll be waiting a long time. Your puppet is universally hated. If you love the US so much, go to Miami. I will not, however, descend to your level and call you a traitor.

    • vlom2441

      Are your an Israeli troll?

      • Eskandar Black

        Are you a jew hating obsessed bigot that sees israel everywhere?

        • Mike

          An alt-right racist two bit zionist slave, yeah your one to talk there mimami.

      • Mike

        Nah eskander ie miami is an zionist worshiping pile of yankee trash.

    • Mike

      Show me links or pictures of dying people that compare to place like Yemen, if not then fuck off from this site. Since your a broken record full of hot air that smells like shit from an outhouse.

    • Mike

      Seriously dismembered you really need to take your meds there psycho boy.

    • Asia Tatler

      IDIOT !!!HORIBLE CRIMINAL MADURO ??WAIT THE BLACKWATER ,MERCENARIES ARE GOING TO VENEZUELA/WITH ABRAMS/TO START THE GENOCIDES ,AND GET THE OIL /GOLD/JUST WAITE !!

    • Ewan

      “Unlike Syria, in Venezuela, the population deeply hates maduro, and is mostly kept prisoner by Maduro’s cuban security forces..”.REALLY? This forum isnt really for FOX and CNN watching Sheeple such as yourself. Your an idiot

  • TiredOfBsToo

    Here’s hoping the rest of the world not under vassalage of the US Empire is able to assist Venezuela and it’s people to stave off the greedy psychopaths in command of the US government from murdering their people and stealing their resources.

    • neil barron

      Commie talk that Putin doesn’t even uphold.

      • Asia Tatler

        NO SHIT ,IT IS AMERIVA ,GET AN EDUCATION !!NOW THEY EWITH ISRAEL PULLED OUT OF I.C.C. /THEY ARE BOTH CHATRGED WITH WAR CRIMES <AND SHITTING IN THEIR PANTS !!IT IS COMING ,YOU CAN RUN ,BUT CANNOT HIDE !!

    • Asia Tatler

      FUCK THE US.JUST LIKE IRAQ/LIBYA/SYRIA/AFGHANISTAN???THE ONLY PSYCOPATHS ARE IN THE PENTAGON/THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPOUND/THE BIG OIL/SINCE WHRN THE US.CARES FOR ANYONE ,THE CRIMINAL CIA.MUST STOP THESE ,MURDEROUS COUPS !!ABRAMS DID WAR CRIMES ALL OVER LATIN AMERICA,GET AN EDUCATION ,MORON !

      • TiredOfBsToo

        You really should look up the definition of psychopath. I get the impression that you don’t have a clue as to the meaning of psychopath and/or all of the elements of the Deep State. As for the CIA, they’re among the largest group of psychopaths whose first head, Allan Dulles, was responsible for many of the atrocities in Central America and beyond. There’s an interesting book titled: “The Devil’s Chessboard” by David Talbot, though I doubt many morons have read it. Perhaps when you shout moron, you should first get all the facts or have a good look in the mirror.

  • TiredOfBsToo

    Why is it that whenever a state uses it’s resources for the betterment of their citizens, the Empire soon arrives to destroy the state and plunder it’s resources? Ask the Libyans how much better their doing now that their state has been destroyed. One could also ask the same question of the Ukrainians.

    • Marko

      ” Why is it that whenever a state uses it’s resources for the betterment of their citizens, the Empire soon arrives to destroy the state and plunder it’s resources? ”

      Because those states are examples of socialism or social democracy , so their economies must be periodically destroyed , thus giving the elites the opportunity to point to their economic records and say : “See ? Socialism never works. Just look at ______.” (Venezuela,Cuba ,Libya – fill in the blank).

      Now you have a ready-made meme to use while bashing candidates like Bernie Sanders , or policies like Medicare For All. Brain-dead Trumptards eat this shit up , of course , not realizing they’re just contributing to their own inevitable demise and the further elevation of the elites.

      • neil barron

        Swamp tard this is why where here to kick you swamp creatures out of Washington. It doesn’t matter what your politics are just as Judicial Watch is get the swamp gutted. I still want TRUMP to fire all the feckless generals in the pentagon, there nothing but Odumbo ocksuckers the ones that created this mess.

        • Asia Tatler

          TRUMP IS PART OF THE SWAMP ,THE 1% ARE IN CONTROL ,NO MATER WHAT YOU DO !!

      • TiredOfBsToo

        It was a rhetorical statement, because the Deep State and both sides of the political aisle in the US are guilty.

        On another note, many who didn’t want Killery for President because of her zeal for a war with Russia, voted for Trump to put an end to foreign entanglements and to concentrate on revitalizing manufacturing in the US. I wonder if Democrats hadn’t been after Trump’s hide for over 2 years using the Russia collusion bullshit to keep us from getting along with Russia, if we would have the only group, the neocons, on his side all around him running the government. It’s human psychology when under attack to seek support from somewhere. Too bad it turned out the only group available was the neocons, not just for us, but the rest of the planet as well. Democrat or Republican, 2 sides of the same coin.

        • zman

          I fear it is worse than that. Since all things politic (from politicians to media to subjects to discuss) in the US is run by the Zionists, I have to look at the last 2 years with that bent in mind. If you look at Trumps accomplishments, they are no different than those that Killery would have pursued…with a few caveats. The Jerusalem and JCPOA items were a no-go for either dems or repugs…but not for a ‘firebrand’ Trump. We all know that the Russian thing was BS. EVERYONE in DC knew it too. We also know that the Israelis were involved in manipulating the election, but NO ONE mentions them. So what does this say? The whole thing is a scam. Without the Russian dodge they would have been under more scrutiny and their schemes more out in the open. Being under the magnifying glass is anathema to them. As you said dems and repugs =2 sides of the same (to me, neocon) coin. Now add to that the nearly complete lock step agreement of both with Trump on Venezuela and Trumps never really pulling troops from Syria and what does it look like now (not to mention agreement on the illegal Russian sanctions)? Now look at the polls for Trump(>40%) and MSM assessments of the economy(it’s now ‘roaring’). I don’t believe either assessment. Is the MSM really against Trump…or are they merely playing the part?

          • TiredOfBsToo

            I agree with you mostly. I would take issue with the support for zionism though as the US Congress is primarily a zionist entity. I still do wonder what Trump, who wanted to work with Russia prior to being sh*t on by the Deep State and it’s media arm. It doesn’t surprise me that he surrounded himself with the only group not attacking him as long as they’re allowed to do whatever they want. When I look at the US Congress, I see support for anything Israel over the interests of America or Americans. The Congress in the US should be labeled the Israel/US Congress to show what countries it actually represents and the order of support. All Trump did is just what the Congress wanted to do but were afraid to do because of potential fallout. I don’t see Congress criticizing Trump on the Golan thing either.

            My personal view on Trump going into the election: he’d been against foreign wars, wanted to restore the economy of the US, had his own money so didn’t need to be beholden to the moneyed class for support, wanted to bring troops home and besides, killery was all about having a war with Russia in Syria. Given his actions over the last 2 years and that of both parties, I’m looking at a write in candidate named ‘none of the above’ or maybe not even bothering. Tulsi Gabbard looked good for a little while, but is beginning to look like her spine is weakening. I like Ilhan Omar who had the spine to tell it like it actually is. That takes guts. She seems pretty sharp for one so young. I also like the fact that there seems to be an awakening regarding the illegal actions against Venezuela with protests….. Maybe there’s hope similar to the way the neocons were cowed, back during the Viet Nam war. One can hope.

          • zman

            Trump was an unknown to most people before the election, so he put forth an image that people would go for, as any good conman would do. I have followed him ever since his full page ad in the Daily News (IIRC) back in the late 80s referring to the Central Park 5. I then started following all the associations he had…NY mob, Russian mob, Israeli mob…which is where I draw my conclusion that he is in with the Zionists. That led to going back into the 70s and looking at him. The most interesting thing from back then was the speculation that he was actually broke and that his money was ‘all on paper’. There is a lot more, including his association with the MSM, but it would lead to a long diatribe. I will say though, that his position In 2016, about making our allies pay for protection, is not new and he put forth the same idea in 1987 and took out a full page ad about it. Long story short, I determined then he was a conman. I grew up with one who was very good and I got to know the ‘tells’. If one looks, one sees his whole history is one of loud talk, bluster, derision and division, in other words, a bigger than life persona. I guess where we really disagree is that I think Trump has been in bed with the Zionists for a very long time and he is not being controlled by them, he is merely doing what he has always done…taking orders from his bosses. I absolutely do agree with you on Gabbard and Omar. I think Gabbard is too interested in her gov job, or they have dirt on her. Omar is putting it all on the line and I applaud her for that. She has done the unforgivable and brought Zionist control into the open, I just hope she doesn’t have the ‘bad luck’ others have had. That mostly leads to suicide(d), accidents or just plain murder (Seth Rich). The most hopeful sign to me is that she is actually picking up support, so maybe, as you said, one can hope.

          • TiredOfBsToo

            It’s interesting that you should use the term ‘mob’. I liken the government to a mafia operation where countries pay for protection and only the racketeers increase their wealth.

            “Trump has been in bed with the Zionists for a very long time..”

            It wasn’t my intention to infer that Trump was being controlled by Zionists, for even before the election he was making Zionist noises with JCPOA and anything regarding Iran. I merely wanted to state that it wasn’t just Zionists controlling the government. Prior to the Zionists having massive influence over the government, there was plenty of destruction and criminal activity brought about by the likes of Allen Dulles and his CIA and before that, we have Jeremy Butler discussing how he was a hit man for the corporations. I believe it was LBJ who put the country completely in bed with Israel and proved his undying subservience to Israel with the false flag USS Liberty operation and coverup. Our government, probably since the 1800s after John Quincy Adams term, has been heading towards where it is today, where the Constitution is treated as merely a piece of paper tucked away in a museum and the rule of law has been replaced with the law of the jungle; fits right in there with the ripping up of whatever agreements have been previously signed.

            Anyway, what I am grateful for with Trump in office is that the cover has come off revealing what the government is actually about, no more secret sugar coating. I see the demand for payment increases for NATO as a tool to kill it whether by intent or not, that result would be a good thing. The neocons running amok is also good in the way that the true face of these psychos is now viewable for all to see. The effect appears to be what I had hoped for, a move by other countries towards a more saner world with the possibility of the Europeans breaking their chains of slavery and actually working towards true sovereignty. My only concern there is that the psychopathic neocons (Zionist and non-Zionist alike) just might turn the planet into a barren rock, if not, maybe we’ll finally be able to rid ourselves of these criminals once and for all. Just another one of my hopes.

      • Joe Freedom

        You are clearly brain dead and stupid…. Socialist destroy themselves and always have . Socialism is not sustainable and never will be. Their destruction was from within by the very idiots that pushed socialism.

        • zman

          Ahhh, the intellectual reply. However, you fucked up because you reveal just how much propaganda you’ve swallowed. Joe Freedom…Are you related to Patriot Act? LOL…why don’t you just call yourself ‘Deluded Chump’?

          • Molon Labe!

            It’s called facts and you can’t provide a single example of a successful socialist country. There is a reason why socialism leads to communism and fools such as yourself keep trying to defend the indefensible. Joe is right…You are stupid.

          • zman

            And you’re a smart as he is. Name 1, just one country that does not have socialist programs as part of their government. If they do, they are not 100% capitalist. The so-called socialist moniker paraded about by lame-brained fools have no conception of what socialism even is. Most think it means communism. Try surviving in your own country without socialism. Britain is about as socialist as they get, retired people in the US would be poor house paupers without their SS. The failure of certain socialist countries, such as Venezuela and other Latin American countries, is usually due to intervention and economic attack by so-called capitalist criminals. The US has tried to subdue Cuba for hoe many years? yet they are still there. The US and the rest of the west is circling the drain and it’s all due to run away crony capitalism. As far your retarded ‘facts’, you don’t have any. You sound as smart as those who faun all over the term privatization, not being smart enough to realize they’ve been robbed. As for successful socialist countries, look up the mean standard of living before and after the Chavez admin or Libya before capitalists flattened it. Those are real facts, not your imaginary ones.

          • Truth Beats Leftist BS

            Having social programs is not socialism. There is a huge difference but clearly that is too much for someone such as yourself to understand… Socialism the precursor of communism. The goal of socialism is communism… Crony capitalism is the corruption of capitalism by socialism… You are batting zero… There are not now or ever have been a successful socialist country.

          • zman

            Crony capitalism is the corruption of capitalism by socialism? Are you serious? Try telling that to the Koch Brothers. They are crony capitalists par excellence. They’re leaders of privatization and the control of said by corporate owners. That is capitalism, not socialism. You might take remedial reading and comprehension classes, as Cuba is a successful nation that has survived every attempt by the west to destroy them. They also have a top-tier medical and education system. Far better than the US. Venezuela has been improving every year since they ran out the US backed traitors. Venezuela also has possibly the best voting system in the world. ”The goal of socialism is communism”…along with the rest of your post, I have no doubt you believe that. Quit believing Bolton’s BS.

          • Truth Beats Leftist BS

            You have zero credibility with your fantasy that Cuba is a successful nation that has top tier anything…. Nothing is further from the truth or facts. Thank you for making it clear that you are both a lair and an uneducated idiot. There is a reason why Cubans risk their lives to cross the ocean on overloaded rafts to escape to the US. You’re the typical leftist moron. Every part of your quip is endless lies and misinformation. You should tell your leftist masters you need reeducation.

          • zman

            The best part about your replies are that everyone here knows what you are and what you represent…which means neither I or anyone else, except of course your neocon buddies, falls for your BS. Even when answered, your questions are never answered, are they? The only answers you want are perversions of the truth. If you are an American, well then you are a Bolton Moron…especially if you think the US has better medical or education….which we don’t. No amount of your blathering horse shit can change that, no matter how much you continue your neocon propaganda. You need an education, period. Hell, we’re all still laughing over your retarded “Crony capitalism is the corruption of capitalism by socialism”…even the Koch bros. are choking on that one. The Kochs are socialists….damn that’s funny…they’re the same thing you are, neocon fascists. I wonder what your excuse will be when the US collapses under it’s own lies? Putin did it? BTW, I can take things out of context as well…
            “Democracy is indispensable to socialism”- Vladimir Lenin

          • Truth Beats Leftist BS

            https://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2014/07/crony-capitalism-socialism/
            Ooops, seems you have no legs to stand on…again. You have yet to make one legit statement that can be back up with proof.

          • Truth Beats Leftist BS

            “The goal of socialism is communism.” Vladimir Lenin

          • Truth Beats Leftist BS

            Venezuela? You can’t be serious… They are eating their pets to stay alive right now…

  • Real Anti-Racist Action

    I thought Russia’s Red Line was no us missiles in Eastern Europe?
    What does it mean when a Red Line is crossed? The US and Israel cross them on a daily bases, their has never been any tangible repercussion.
    Seems weak if you ask me. Now if Russia shipped a few batteries of S-400 systems to Venezuela, then I would think that Russia was starting (just starting) to mean business.
    Till I see them S-400 shipping to Russia’s allies, I don’t believe a word.
    Only NATO gets Russia’s S-400’s, like NATO-Turkey and NATO-friendly-India lol.

    • zman

      Hey, at least you agree with you. You know Venezuela has Russian aircraft and S-300s as well as other Russian AA, right?

    • Ewan

      Venezuela already has S300 – more than enough for whatever the Yankees can throw at it. Russia’s 100 man “ahead” team will set the stage for the upcoming military intervention.
      If the Us could intervene militarily, it would have done so years ago already, but it cannot, hence the long windy route of assasinating Chavez by poisoning, then stirring shit against Madurao combined with a vicious economic war. Yankee pussies did the same to saddam’s Iraq after the 1st Gulf war – scared of casualties, they starved the regime (and millions of kids and innocents) for 10 years, bought off the Generals, then invaded.So much for Yankee military superiority

  • RichardD

    Syria is an unfinished project that will determine the direction that our civilization takes. The Jew world order’s terrorist proxies are defeated where they don’t have direct state intervention supporting them in the US and Turkish occupied areas. The Jew world order miscreants are going to try to salvage their regime change failure by solidifying the partition of Syria into government and regime change controlled areas. To use these occupied areas to weaken the Syrian government and stir up regional trouble to further implement the Yinon plan of perpetual regional turmoil. Just like they did with Iraqi Kurdistan.

    There are two issues to address in resolving this matter in the Syrian government’s favor. One is ending the neighbor’s support for the partition project by Turkey, Iraq and Jordan to end US access to Syria. And the other is removing the occupation forces from Syria militarily. The neighbors are unlikely to withdraw their support until there is enough of a military capability in place to expel the US and Turkey. This involves an extension of the no fly zone for the US over the remaining 30% of Syria. And an upgrade of Syrian government coalition ground capabilities to push the Turkish military back over the Turkish border.

    In the event that the Syrian war is resolved in the Syrian government’s favor. Having a Turkish military presence in Syria to assist with resolving the Israel and Jew problem could be helpful. So repairing rather than exacerbating Syrian Turkish relations is the path that I would recommend. Which will require Turkey assisting in getting the Syrian government’s administration restored in Idlib, Afrin and the NE.

    • LR captain

      erdogan is already the Golan heights issue to UN security counsel and is going against the Zionist regime

      also i want to see turkey + Assad alliance mop the floor with the kurds.

  • White_American_Patriot

    Russians giving America a red line in South America

    LMFAO

    • Peter Bozich

      American aggression will be a thing of the past, in the not to distant future.
      Once the economy collapses and the U.S dollar craters, there will be no more money for this type of nonsense.

      • Ewan

        It already is. The Russian presence in Syria has rolled back the US sphere of influence – An unparalelled event since the ascent of that famous of all Arab traitors, Anwar Sadat who kicked Russia out of the ME. Also unparalelled because the US was supposed to be the world’s only superpower. The next step is containing Israel. Already a done deal. Assad insists Golan will be taken back – he does that with the full support of Putin (and Iran, Hezbollah). Putin is Syria’s Political Guarantor in the international arena (ensuring the US stays checked) in the upcoming war against Israel, Iran and Hezbollah will provide the fighting assets. I much prefer a march straight to Jerusalem by the Hezb and Shiite PMU after the Golan is liberated….perhaps thats wishful thinking. We’ll leave the poor barefooted Houthis to wipe Riyadh off the map and put an end to Zio Arabia and the ibn Saud Clan once and for all.

    • Volker Burkert

      It is happening right in front of your eyes. Open them, your eyes!

    • Mike

      Fucking queer kupec.

    • Asia Tatler

      SHITING IN YOUR PANTS ,NO DOUBT !!FUCKEN MORON !!

    • Wraith

      Venezuela has no chance against the US Military. The US Navy has 2 fleets on standby to deal with them. Only 1 fleet would do the trick though. Each fleet has 90 F-18/F-35s, destroyers, submarines, corvettes, and a combined 400+ tomahawk missiles

      Dozens of F-35s and F-18s, coupled with massive tomahawk strikes would completely devastate and put the Venezuelan Army into submission in at least 2 or 3 days tops

      • Romeo Pesiao

        Then do it now, the sooner the better.. .

      • zman

        That’s the kind of attitude that got us where we are. You seem to think that it would be a cake walk and that Venezuela has no defenses or offensive capabilities. The American people will be as shocked as you when US ships and planes start visiting Davy Jones. Do you think that the US mainland is beyond being touched? How gung-ho will Americans be if the mainland is hit(for the first time in 2 centuries)? I guess it comes down to how many systems and reloads they have for their S-300s and other AAS. I wonder if those Russian bombers were just visiting…or bringing arms? How many Patriots are in Florida? None. How effective are these counter measures in reality? In retrospect, Patriots performance in the mideast were abysmal. Yeah, the US would win an all out confrontation, but the US does not do that. They only do sneak attacks that tend to fail. Look at how effective 100s of cruise missiles were in Syria. NOT. If the Russians are serious about their red line, and the Russians are always serious, the US won’t start shit anyways. The US way is subterfuge and terrorism, they do not fight other militarys with actual weapons.

        • The US were defeated in Vietnam and they had overwhelming weapons compared to them and the people of Venezuela will do the same.

    • Antikapitalista

      Yeah, it generally takes bringing in nukes, so that the Murricans finally understand international law and stop meddling in other countries affairs.

  • Prince Teutonic

    It’s interesting how only Russia is giving red lines to USA. China is more or less silent and staying “below radar”. I wonder if USA is more affraid of “barking” Russia or “silent” China?…

    • neil barron

      Where not afraid of anyone swamp slug.

      • Asia Tatler

        WHY ARE YOU IN VENEZUELA ??GO HOME YANKEE ,NO ONE WANTS YOU !!THIVES/GANGSTERS /US.IS BANKRUPT ,AND LOOKING THE STIL OIL/GOLD/MINERALS ??SHAME ON YOU ,NATION OF DESTRUCTIVE NARZIS !

  • principia

    Poor Russia with its delusions of grandeur.

  • goingbrokes

    The US Empire run by the zionist elite for themselves will end soon. Every true American Patriot is seething at the elites for destroying everything that was good about the US, and using US military for 100% unconstitutional criminal projects. The great clean up is coming. The fake patriots and zionist infiltrators will hang from the lamp posts, I suspect. They tried to destroy and enslave Russia in the 90s and they failed. They will fail in the US too. It is time for the pay-back. It won’t be long now.

  • Ma_Laoshi

    Do I have it right that US military planes now are regularly violating Venezuelan airspace, “searching for suitable drop points for humanitarian aid”? Let me make a guess that the US would consider such to be military aggression if the roles were reversed. Time to introduce those planes and their crews to the beauty of the Venezuelan jungle? If you’re remotely serious about defending the country, then what are you waiting for?

  • Justin

    And people on this website say that russia isnt doing enough!
    REALLY??

    Who else stands up to the USA? Huh?

    Does China? China are fuckin Pussies!

    • Joe Kerr

      Really? Is that why McArthur wanted to nuke China to stop their 3rd world army from booting them out of NK during the Korean war? Seems you have a problem with China, and coming from that brain-dead wasteland down under that’s no surprise.

      • Justin

        Tell me one thing China has done in the last 50 years that makes them NOT a pussy!
        Tell me!
        Keep in mind, the USA and Australia fly and sail straight over their so called man made islands! Does China escort them away like Russia does?
        Huh?
        Do they?
        or do they just send voice messages?
        Send me a video proving otherwise!!
        Does China help in Syria?
        Is China kneeling down to the USA in the trade wars??
        Check the scoreboard!
        China are shit!
        (i already sent a video of Russia being involved in the Korean war. MIG-15’s and Russian pilots made all the difference, not the Chinese cannon fodder!)
        would u like to see the Russian’s telling u the story? Or u dont believe it?

        u gonna have a cry and say its “just not so”?

        Get ur tongue out of China’s ass!
        Russia is the brave nation, China are fuckin pussies!

  • Wraith

    US Military has 2 Naval Fleets READILY AVAILABLE if needed to deal with Venezuela’s Maduro Government. Each fleet has a supercarrier with 90 F-35/F-18 strike fighters, multiple destroyers, submarines with over 500 tomahawk missiles

    Add to that: strategic bombers like B-1, B-2, and B-52 from Florida and Texas

    • Turbofan

      Why dont you try flying over Caracas..you idiot..

    • verner

      the idiots in the white house fecked up once again and believed they could regime change venezuela in a heartbeat, but lo and behold and larf and larf, how mistaken they were and how stupid they look right now – egg on their faces. there won’t be a coup in venezuela even if the idiots can float the entire navy into the maracaibo lake. their reading of the world is flawed which guarantees more idiotic decisions to come. white house could equally well serve as the home for the mentally impaired, like donny, fatso, bedbugcrazy bolton and so on.

  • Wraith

    S-300: 4 missiles per launcher
    *Limited quantity, limited missiles in storage*
    US Navy: Has 2 Fleets readily available with 180 F-18s/F-35s
    *Has destroyers/submarines carrying over a combined 400+ tomahawk missiles*

    • Ewan

      US fears the loss of even ONE POS F35 at the hands of ageing S300. If the US could invade, it would have. it cannot and will not, why take years to overthrow the socialist government in Venezuela if the US could just march in 10 years ago and replace the government? after all, Venezuela is in the US backyard. To replace a regime, the US has to hold and conquer territory – impossible considering the size and capabilities of the Venezuelan armed forces.1000 cruise missiles can damage buildings but cannot do a regime change, Maduro’s government isnt the Taliban, who by the way, after almost 20 years of war, have still not been defeated.

  • Romeo Pesiao

    The US seems panic by Sergei Ryabkov warning, Venezuela is in the US frontyard, however they feared the few Russian troops embedded in the Venezuelan Armed Forces. No guts , no glory..

  • Xoli Xoli

    USA hands off Venezuela The Russians have LANDED and are still coming.USA NATO provoked the the Siberian Bears now their are on the Venezuelan soil were USA assissinaters are hiding to smoke the thugs out.Trump,Bolton and Pompeo go ask your puppets If Russia start a war their never stop until all culprits are destroyed.Ask Turkey how quickly those Russians responded to the place were their jet was down.Turkey was lucky to escaped.

  • Xoli Xoli

    Sinking USA warship means 180 jets on sea ocean floor.Jet carrier warships of USA are useless.Pentagon wringle face war planners have over estimated and are in panic.Wrong move from USA and Washington is flatten USA refugees flee to Mexico.

  • purplelibraryguy

    Has anyone noticed that almost everything US apparatchiks ever say nasty about anyone else is projection? So for instance, they’re always on and on about Russia or China being big into nefarious cyberwarfare, but every time you see an actual instance of genuine cyberwarfare it seems to be the Americans doing it–Stuxnet, the Venezuelan power sabotage . . .

    Or, they go around accusing Venezuela of torturing people; can anyone say “Guantanamo” or “Black overseas CIA detention site” (or “US prison”)?

  • Joe Kerr

    Now that Russian troops have started arriving in Venezuela, the “all options” threat from the bankrupted Israeli colony of the U.S. has been called bluff by Putin. So what now… more dribble and spittle? Name-calling? Barking, yelping and whimpering? Where’s your cheap yap now?

  • Joe Freedom

    Russia,,, red line….roflmao… Russia is a joke.

  • Antikapitalista

    Well, probably Nicolás Maduro is not a legitimate president of Venezuela—that would probably be Henri Falcón—but Nicolás Maduro is still the legal president of Venezuela.

    However, Henri Falcón had been threatened by the United States of Aggression if he takes part in the election.
    Well, that is some election meddling!

    As for Juan Guaidó, he is a complete joke. The truth is that he is not only far from being a legitimate president of Venezuela, but he cannot be legally an action president either.

    All his claims to legitimacy rest upon a ridiculous interpretation of the constitution of Venezuela crushed by even more ridiculous piles of legal fiction.
    Their argument starts like this: the election was not according to the constitution, so it did not take place at all and everything from that onward is supposedly null and void and so on.
    Well, but only the courts know the law. and the Supreme court of Venezuela has decided clearly against Juan Guaidó’s heists.
    While it is true that the Supreme court was stuffed by the Socialist party supporters in an extraordinary session convened after a lost election, before the new legislative assembly assumed power, the Supreme court is still constitutionally relevant.
    No one may cherry-pick articles from the constitution of Venezuela, much less the United States of Aggression!

    Surely, Nicolás Maduro sidestepped the National Assembly in favour of the the Constitutional National Assembly, but that was according to the constitution.

    And why is Nicolás Maduro the legal president of Venezuela? Because the electoral commission of Venezuela has certified that he has won the election and that he is the legal president of Venezuela.

    Objections had had been raised against this Electoral Commission, it is not a government office, but it is a genuine commission, drawn from the whole society and from its every part.

    But Juan Guaidó has nothing. To put it figuratively: while Maduro’s constitutional claims are rather limp, Guaidó does not have a constitutional leg to stand on.

    Thus, why not Henri Falcón, but Juan Guaidó? Because Henri Falcón is a true Venezuelan nationalist, whereas Juan Guaidó is merely a smiling stooge groomed by Washington for the mass media.

    The case of Henri Falcón vs. Juan Guaidó clearly shows that the United States of Aggression is not only far removed from the best interests of the Venezuelan people, but that it is actually engaging in some very foul play here.

  • martin clarke

    I agree with all the participants in this present discussion with the obvious exception of Eskander Black and Joe Freedom the two Colonial USA ‘Arse Lickers’. I am heartened by the rest of the comments and am delighted to associate with the rest of the crew and their logical remarks. That bloated pig Pompeo has just been castigating the UK opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn on the grounds that the is supporting Maduro and his murderous regime and that members of his party are Anti-Semetic. The fact is that any folk in the USA or the UK are classed as Anti- Semetic if they are opposed to the Jewish theft of Palestine and all who support it. I have relatives in the USA, they are pleasant folk to talk to but it is quite apparent that they are totally ignorant when it comes to the geographical locations of countries, the histories of those countries and of the legality of American attacks on those countries. Coupled to this they are religiously and politically indoctrinated to a degree where they refuse to question or research accepted historical facts that large areas of the world are familiar with. Obviously there are many in the states who are aware of the true facts but they are a small but slow growing minority. As for myself I agree with my aging grandma just before she died in the seventies when she said,” All religion is Man Made”. Religion is a personal thing and if it gives comfort to many so be it but I do believe that it stifles freedom of thought and and logical conclusions. Hope I have not offended any who read this, it is not my intention. Long live Moduro and Venezuela.Down with Guaido and the right wing US Spanish Colonialists.