How Russia should deal with the “Pilban Syndrome”

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Written by The Saker; Originally appeared at his blog

A reader, SunriseState, has recently posted the following question in the comments section: “what would you say is the most optimal Russian strategy vs Poland?“.  When I read it I thought “now that is an interesting question indeed!”.  Today I will try to answer it, going step by step.

First, a diagnosis.

There is a Polish syndrome.  We can ascribe all sorts of causes for it, some will describe the Poles look as heroic victims, others as greedy hyenas, but for our purposes we don’t even need to dwell into history to list a series of symptoms which, when taken together, we could call the “Polish Syndrome”:

  1. Phobia (hatred and fear) for Russia and everything Russian.
  2. A strong desire to be “part of the West” (as opposed to an imaginary “despotic Asia”) while in reality having little or nothing in common with the said “West”
  3. A deep and bitter resentment at having been militarily defeated over and over again and a subsequent hope for a grandiose revanche.
  4. A deep seated inferiority complex towards both the East and the West as lyrically expressed in the Ukrainian slogan “let us drown the Poles in Russian and Jewish blood!“.
  5. A dream of finally submitting the Orthodox Church to the Papacy (or, in its latest iteration, to “consecrate Russia to the immaculate heart of Mary“)
  6. A deep insecurity about itself resulting in a neverending policy of finding external allies, including Hitler, to take on the “big guy”.
  7. A willingness to say anything and do anything to get the external ally to extend protection, threaten Russia or, even better, participate in a long-awaited “march on Moscow”.

Again, whether this is a result of centuries of Russian oppression, imperialism, violence and persecutions or the result of the Papist ideology makes absolutely no difference for our purposes.

Also, when we look at the various symptoms of our “Polish Syndrome” we immediately see that it is not unique to Poles or Poland – the Ukrainians, especially the western Ukrainians, display all the same characteristics as their Polish neighbors (as do the Balts, but they are too small, weak and irrelevant to be included here).  The syndrome we are looking at is therefore not really a “Polish” one, but an East European one, but calling it “East European” would also be incorrect.  So, for our purposes, I will simplify and call it the “Pilban Syndrome” (PBS) in honor of the two “great heroes” of the Polish and West Ukrainian nationalists: Jozef Pilsudski and Stepan Bandera.

Second, a prognosis

Friends, the Pilban Syndrome is here to stay.  For one thing, we are dealing with a syndrome with deep historical roots.  Second, years of Communist rule followed by a sudden collapse of the Soviet Empire gave this syndrome a huge boost. Third, the AngloZionist Empire, especially in its current position of rapid decline, will allocate a great deal of resources to keep the PBS alive and well.  Finally, the abject failure of the AngloZionist policies in the Ukraine and the subsequent civil war will probably lead to a break-up of the Ukraine, in one form or another, and that will also greatly contribute to the vitality of the PBS.  I would also add that while right now Poland is enjoying a much hoped for “minute of fame” (being useful to the Empire against Russia) this pipe dream will also come crashing down sooner rather than later, and that inevitable collapse with also result in a sharp rise of the PBS.  Bottom line is this: the PBS is here to stay and Russians would be naive in the extreme to hope that it will just vanish.

Third, a warning

There is nothing, absolutely nothing which the Russians could do to try to minimize the severity of the PBS.  It is absolutely crucial to understand that the PBS is deeply ideological in its nature and causes.  To think that some kind of action (short of collective national suicide, of course) would appease those suffering from PBS is delusional.  The Ukrainian case, in particular, will show that even if Russians give them loans, credits, favorable trade terms, security guarantees, etc. the Ukrainian nationalists will see that as a devious plan to try to entrap or otherwise deceive the Ukrainians.  If tomorrow the Kremlin decided to send truckloads of gold to the Ukraine or Poland, they would accept it, of course, but as soon as the last truck crossed the border the Polish and Ukrainian nationalists would resume their usual mantras about “Poland/the Ukraine not perishing yet” (they both have these paranoid words in their essentially similar national anthems) along with their usual policies.

Fourth, the big question

The big question is this: how do you deal with such hate-filled lunatics when they are your neighbors?  From a Russian point of view, these neighbors are constantly shifting their position on a spectrum roughly ranging between “minor pain in the ass” to “existential threat”, so this is nothing trivial.  If history has taught the Russians anything is that every single time Russia was weak the Poles invaded.  Every time.  The Ukrainian case is very different, since there never was any “Ukrainian state” in history.  However, since the Ukrainian nationalists display exactly the same PBS symptoms as their Polish brothers, we can assume that they too will wait for Russia to be weak (for whatever reason) to attack; in fact, the current *official* statements of the leaders of the Nazi junta in Kiev more or less promise to do exactly that).  Russia has tried all sorts of strategies with Poland, ranging from outright partitioning, to the granting of special rights, to a naive hope that a common stance against Nazi Germany would yield some degree of, if not brotherhood, then at least civil neighborly relations.  They all failed.  Clearly, a new approach is needed.

Fifth, the obvious solution

Okay so we have established that the PBS is incurable, that it is here to stay, that the Russians cannot meaningfully affect it and that past policies have all failed.  So what does that leave?  It leaves one obvious solution:

Do nothing.  Have no policy.  Give up.  Ignore them.  Bypass them.

The first principle of medicine is “above all do no harm”.  I will argue here that any Russian policy towards PBS suffering states will do harm and only make things worse.  However, doing absolutely nothing will yield huge advantages for Russia.  Think of it.  Doing nothing

  1. Gives the Polish and Ukrainian nationalists the least excuses to focus on an imaginary external threat and forces them to have to look inside, at their own internal problems.  Considering that we are dealing hate-filled ideologues and deluded politicians, they will all turn on each other like rats in a cage.
  2. Makes it possible for Russia to combine a pragmatically efficient stance with a morally correct one: no matter how hate filled and delusional Polish and Ukrainian nationalists are, it is not for Russians to judge them, educate them or otherwise deny them their freedom to live in whatever manner they choose to.  Let them build the society they want, let them keep on barking at Russia like a small dog would do behind the “NATO fence”, and let them pursue their “western dream” to their heart’s content.
  3. Makes it possible for Russia to allocate much needed resources where it matters, where Russian money, sweat and blood can yield a real return on investment.  Ignoring the PBS-states will initially cost Russia some money, true, but in the mid-to-long term it will save Russian billions of Rubles.

However, when I say “do nothing” I refer only to policies which actually involve expectations that if Russia does “X” the Polish or Ukrainian nationalists will do “Y”.  An example such mistaken policies would be to expect the Poles to buy Russian LNG gas if Russia offers better prices.  It ain’t gonna happen – give it up, Vlad!

What Russia must do, as a condition of the “do nothing” policy, is to craft a new policy towards PBS states composed exclusively of unilateral actions.  What do I mean by that?

First, Russia must secure her own security in military, economic and political terms.  Russians must look at PBS states the way the Dutch look at the North Sea: they know that if their dams break, the waters of the North Sea will immediately break and submerge a large part of the Dutch territory.  Dutch flood control never assumes that the waters of the North Sea will act differently, that somehow they could be convinced to not flood.  No, for the Dutch it is simple to the extreme: if our levees break, the North Sea will flood us.  And, here is the key, the Dutch don’t resent the North Sea for that.  Same for Russians: they should not resent the Polish or Ukrainian nationalists, they just need to make darn sure that the Russian levees (the Russian armed forces) don’t break, that’s all.

Second, Russia must completely de-couple her economy from any PBS state.  Yes, this is also what the nationalists want.  So let’s give it to them!  Let’s bring the Russian trade and investment into PBS states to exactly zero.  Modern technologies make it very simple to bypass these countries and the North Stream is the best proof that Russia and Germany can do business together without involving the crazies between them.  To those who would say that this sounds extreme, I would reply that if Russia had not allowed Polish Air Force Tu-154 to fly to Smolensk all the crazy shit we witness today would not have happened. Why interact with somebody who will always blame you for everything?  This makes no sense.  I would even withdraw Russian representations from these countries and kick their diplomats out of Russia (have the Swiss to be the representatives, like the USA with Iran or Cuba).  Why?  Because if tomorrow the Polish ambassador to Moscow is killed while crossing at a dangerous intersection or slips in his bath tub, the Poles will immediately declare that the “KGB” (does not exist since 1991 but nevermind that) has killed him.  Who needs this kind of crap?  Nobody I think.  So I say decouple everything which can possibly be de-coupled, give the nationalists their dream and let Russia enjoy some much needed peace and quiet on her western borders.

Third, keep non-governmental ties open.  Cultural ties, small business kind of trade, tourism, etc.  There is no need to build any walls (besides, the Ukrainians and Latvians are already doing that, if not very effectively), or be nasty in any way to the regular Poles or Ukrainians.  If on the government level Russia should always maintain a “thanks, but we are not interested” stance, on the human level Russia should remain open and welcoming to the Polish and Ukrainian people.  The truth is that there are still some mentally sane Poles and Ukrainians who clearly see through the ideological nonsense of their leaders and who far from being russophobic often have a real appreciation for things Russian.  Why make them pay for the behavior of their leaders?  Russia would be much better off trying to do her utmost to make these people feel welcome in Russia and to show that her stance towards the PBS infected nationalists does not extend to mentally sane people.  However, Russia also needs to stop pretending that all is well and for that she needs to officially declare that henceforth her policy towards PBS-regimes will be no policy at all.

Conclusion

I think that what I am suggesting is simple, straightforward, cheap, safe, morally correct and eminently doable.  Yes, of course, to some degree this will be undiplomatic since it will require to officially acknowledge that Russia does not want to deal with PBS-infected regimes at all.  Since I am not a diplomat (thank God!) I can say something here which Russian diplomats really cannot: most Russian feel a deep sense of disgust and contempt for the Polish and Ukrainian nationalists and it is high time that Russian diplomat and decision makers stop pretending otherwise.

For centuries the Russian leaders have always looked at the West as the most important strategic direction and that is understandable as objective geographic and economic factors of that time made the West far more important than the South or the East (and nevermind the North).  But this is changing right now, very rapidly.  In truth, both the EU and the US are increasingly becoming irrelevant to Russia whose future is in the South, the East and even the North.  The good news is that Putin and his key ministers all see this (and this is why, unlike what we saw in the West, for Russia the big events of the G20 was Putin’s meeting with Xi).  Central Asia, the Middle-East, the Indian sub-continent, China, Siberia and the Arctic – these are the regions were the future of Russia will be decided and where Russian is investing most of her human and material resources.  One thing the Ukrainian nationalists are absolutely correct about: while geographically located in what is considered “Europe” the Russian nation (as opposed to the Russian ruling elites) is much closer to her neighbors in the South and East than to the so-called “West”.  It is high time for the Russian people to return to their real, historical, home: the immense Eurasian landmass.

If we look at the internal components of the AngloZionist Empire, then we can see that for Russia the USA will continue to matter the most, then the European Union, but already much less, and then the PBS-states which are basically irrelevant to Russia.  Russia can therefore *easily* afford to comprehensively ignore the PBS-states as long as she keeps her military strong enough to deal with any possible attack or military provocation coming from the West (which the Russian military can easily do).

One more thing: it is a sad reality that the USA are becoming more and more PBS-infected, courtesy of the Neocons and their visceral russophobia (UN Nikki has just declared ““we can’t trust Russia and we won’t ever trust Russia.”).  Clearly, the USA is no Poland and Russia cannot afford to simply ignore them.  But as long as this is done carefully, progressively and, above all, quietly, Russia can, and should, begin decoupling herself not only from the USA as such, but from the entire US-controlled international financial system moving her assets and investments towards the obvious alternative: China and the rest of the Eurasian landmass.

In conclusion, I will say that what I outline above is what I think is already happening before your eyes.  Not as much as I wish, not as fast as I wish, but it is happening, the fastest with the Ukraine, the slowest with the USA.  But it is happening.  And thank God for that!

The Saker

IMPORTANT NOTE: When I speak of the Ukraine, I am referring only to the Nazi-occupied Ukraine, not Novorussia or Crimea. Those I consider as Russian people and land.

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  • Meatgrinder

    What a waste of space. The Polish psyche. Its all fun and games until Pol or Ukrainian shoots your brains out.

    • FlorianGeyer

      The Polish and Ukranian loonies will never defeat the Russian People. Poland was powerful once but those days are very unlikely ever to return especially when all they can offer the Russian People is ‘hatred’. That applies to the Khazar controlled Ukraine as well.

  • Pieter Lemmens

    Sign the petition here to ask the pope to consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart. https://secure.fatima.org/forms/petition.asp

    • goingbrokes

      To make it catholic? Never!

  • Joe Doe

    I would agree with those analysis in full. Russia turning East and South could be better off then dealing with the Eastern European or eve some of the hostile to Russia Western European countries such as UK.

    In addition the report is missing analysis in regards america and NATO. Ignoring Ukrainian in this stage could bring NATO and americans at the RUssian door step from the Ukrainian borders and this would be very danger to Russia as the NATO and american desires is to conquer Russia. AS we look the history every powerful nation try conquer Russia, such as Napoleon or Hitler or Tatars and history like to repeats itself

    • JNDillard

      You assume the US is not already at the doorstep of Russia or that it wants to be in terribly unstable neonazi Ukraine. Obviously, it is already on the border with Russia in the Baltics.

    • Solomon Krupacek

      tatars destroyes kievian russia. the new russia was something new.

      and hitler almost destroyed russia. ussians had luck, that there were ussr. and despite this fact they had so big losses, that until today has consequences.

      another big war like the ww2 would be fatalk for russia.

      • Tudor Miron

        “another big war like the ww2 would be fatalk for russia.” (c) says solomosha and rolls his eyes while holding a mental image of distructed Russia…

        Mental image vanished soon and solomosha vanished a bit later… Russia was still there like she did for many hundreds of years.

        • Solomon Krupacek

          russia = dying civilization

          • Alex Popoff

            Well at least you accept that this is whole civilization.

            BTW this is very convinient and nice civilisation. Especially for slavic nations. For example poles could be part of this civilization and very good part instead of being plumbers in the western civilisation.

          • Solomon Krupacek

            not nice. there are some nice people. but 8 from 10 tourists are extrelmly primitivs. we are happy, if you stay at home. we dont need your money.
            you are dying. from last year again decreasis the population. and rising the percentage of muslems. russians leave russia, russians put their money in western banks. no children, alcoholism, drugs, aids. no future.

          • Alex Popoff

            This is misreporting of western MSM.

            Yes, Russia faces many issues in its development, but it is not like you described.

            Percentage of muslims are exagerrated by muslims, and western MSM are happy to repeat this nonesence. We do not plan to die anytime soon)) Come visit Russia, see it with your eyes.

  • Barba_Papa

    Thing is though, China does not want to be a partner with China. China is only in a partnership with Russia as long as it needs Russia as a common bulwark against the US. Two weaker countries sharing a common enemy. But the enemy of my enemy does not make my friend. That’s why China lets Russia do all the heavy lifting and bleeding in Syria, while China itself does absolutely nothing, while still reaping all the rewards and none of the repercussions. The moment China no longer needs Russia it will become the next US and new hegemon and try to bully Russia just as much as the US does now..

    • Trustin Judeau

      Russia and China are like SAA and SDF . Sometimes they cooperate like in the case of Aleppo city and the province and they have common enemy – jihadists . But once they remain alone , the things could get ugly

    • JNDillard

      There are many, many reasons why this post is moronic, but I will only waste my time mentioning one. China needs Russian natural resources. It will continue to do so. OK. A second: China needs Russia to deal with US aggression in N Korea and the South China Sea. Whatever you are smoking, it’s strong, but the delusions it is causing are not healthy.

      • Solomon Krupacek

        China needs Russian natural resources

        and will try to take siberia

        • Manuel Flores Escobar

          1º you will never see a war among nuclear countries…2º Russia need China for financial reason and China need Russia for energy need!…other reasons..train and artic sea lines to Europe( goods) through Russia!

          • Manuel Flores Escobar

            Another reason…Russian airspace for comercial airlines flights!…if you travel form west Europe to Shangay…yo have to fly Through Russian airspace!…if China want to improve his satellite global position…it need Glonass antennas like USA use all along north Russian land from Finland border to bearing straight

      • Tudor Miron

        I agree to the point that I’m not so sure that China is about to become new world hehemon.

      • Kell

        China was and is largely set up by the West, some say by Rockerfella interests to be the bogey man for WWIII

    • Tudor Miron

      We shell see.

  • Bente Petersen

    Great… I like it… I am Danish, and quite honestly the Poles have as long as I remember (76 years) been playing the victim card….. let them be victims if they enjoy that… only reason they were let into EU was their victimhood… its being used… thoroughly… they are being used… exploited by their dear ”West” victims always will be used… you get what you push…

    • Solomon Krupacek

      yes. you, in denmark saved almast all jews in time when you were occupied by nazi germany. the poles killed jews after 1945 in pogroms. poland was military aly of germany when divided czechoslovakia.

      • Bente Petersen

        Re: Jews in DK yes that is true, MOST Jews in Denmark we all them included as DANES…. I study physics and am a great admirer of Albert Einstein and Niels Bohr, both Jews… Niels Bohr helped get many Jews to Sweden… well what I know of Poles is when I worked in the Danish Textile industry we had trade relations with Poland… they ALWAYS complained bitterly about USSR… one gets really tired of that… They must have committed so many atrocities themselves … or they would not need to hide under the victim cloak !!!!.. I recently looked up the history of Poland and sure enough they are no angels… in fact who are ? ….

        • Solomon Krupacek

          no nation is only victim :)

          the polish russian conflict began in 14th century. in that time the drang nach osten plan of german/teuton knight made the poles with lithuanians. they attacked and took russina territories. around 1650 the buned totally moscow. slowly the russians became stronger and pushed back poles. after ww1 ussr accepted free poland. and also in this time poles had a country, which area was bigger then the area where lived poles. after ww2 poland lost eastern districts, and the eastern border copied the estern ethnic border of poles. BUT, the damned russians gave them silesia with mines, gave them huge baltic shore. so, thanks to russians the area of polish nation was doubled. russian were more fair to poles then poles to russians.
          after ww1 in polish camos died 100 000 russian soldiers. over 90% of captured. in russian camps died several 1000 polish soldiers, less then 10% of captured. wrangel killed tens of thousands russians, ukrainians around 1920. katyn was the answer to that army who allowed these 2 genocides. russian shoot officers, not soldiers, not civilians. also brutal act, but this was again only answer.

          niels bohr was a great guy. brilliant logic! :)

          have a nice day!

          • Bente Petersen

            Thank you Solomon for your data… yep there is an old saying ”why you hate me I never did you bad”…. ….. To hate Russians like the Poles … the Poles must have done something bad to them, and yes they did… …. … … !!!!!

          • Solomon Krupacek

            You know, the problem is, that during schoolyears the teaching of history is not correct. Point on terrible actions of others and no word about our failures. I am sure, most of Poles believe, they aree only victims. And thze fact is, in central europe they are the big winners of the 20th century :) but to find the both sides of coin you have to read really historical journals. but who has time for this? :)

          • Bente Petersen

            agree with you ”history” lessons is a glorification of your own nation’s past… and has nothing to do with what really happened….

        • Kell
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      • Alex Popoff

        One little fact: Hitler came to Pilsudsky funerals. Pilsudsky Poland was tha same nazi shit as Germany but less developed.

        • Solomon Krupacek

          a know. also baltic states were fascists.

          • Alex Popoff

            You are right, in the 20-30th Unites Baltic Emigrates did genocide against Russian population in Baltics.

          • tigbear

            Jews (communist party of Russia) did more genocide of Russian population than anyone.

          • Alex Popoff

            And this is true too, but do not overestimate jews, in russian history they were just puppets of Germany and Britain. First Bolsheviks congress took place in London, second in Belgium, third in London again, etc.

          • Kell

            Rothschild jews run “City of London” Marx used to play chess with old man Rothschild.

          • Alex Popoff

            And?

          • Kell

            Well who do you think “London” is?
            Or WWI/Weimar Germany for that matter?
            Ill give you a clue “You know whos”

          • Kell
          • Alex Popoff

            This is wide known thing that east-indian company rules Britain and British royal family are only representatives of this company. As Rothschild do.

  • Vladimir Blagojevic

    Their rusophobia is preventing them to see that they are commiting demografical self-genocide.. Ever since receiving *freedom* from the SU/Russia, they are basically engaging themselves in organized massive emigration to their beloved Western Europe. What else should or could Russia do then to ignore them and let them go on with it..

  • tigbear

    Ukraine is Nazi? It is the opposite. It is not run by nationalist Germans, but nationalist Zionists. Jews are prominent in the government of Ukraine. This is why fellow Jews in the US-Israel Zionist Axis are supporting Ukraine against Russia. The old paradigms do not hold up anymore. Ukraine has done a 180 degree turn. If it was nationalist/socialist, it would join with Russia in a friendly relationship, just as many republics do. Russia has ended the communist Stalinism style of government ages ago. Stalin, through his purges, especially towards the end of his reign, got rid of the old Bolshevik bureaucracy. The governments that followed were more nationalist and socialist than Bolshevik communist. Putin is of this post-Stalin era. Russia has changed and evolved from what it was.

    • tigbear

      Ukraine has turned toward the West and has become a ZOG nation, a member of NATO. It is no different to the UK, France or Germany or other ZOG nation. Hence, you will find Ukraine provoking Russia as much as possible, unwilling to make peace with it, and wanting to cause trouble in the region, against its own interests. It is a puppet nation after all, as all ZOG nations are.

      Poland has one foot as a ZOG nation and one foot as an independent nation. Poland’s leadership still retains some independence. I suspect this turn to NATO/EU is mainly economic – it does not want to be left behind and its economic situation is not the best.

      • tigbear

        However, it was showing signs of too much independence: it refused to accept refugees. The other EU nations were threatening it with punishment if it did not take in its share of Middle East refugees.

        Therefore, Trump made a special point to visit that nation, to make sure that it stayed in the EU and did not wander off too far off on its own, and possibly end up in Russia’s camp.

        • tigbear

          As I have said, there is no advantage in making an enemy of Russia. Russia has shown itself to be very benign. It has let a number of republics become independent, even republics whose leaders voted “No” to the break-up of the Soviet Union. It would not make sense for Russia to let these republics go and try and grab Poland. It would only do this if Poland threatened it. If Poland does not want to be in the situation it was in World War II, it would not ally with the US-EU western powers – they only want to use Poland. They will throw Poland to the wolves if it suited them. Poland should chill. The Bolsheviks are no longer in power. This is a nationalist Russia, and it is looking for partners who are also independent and operate outside of the EU-NATO axis, to join and form a mutual protective alliance. Russia’s neighbors in Central Asia have a friendly relationship with Russia. Russia leaves them alone. Poland should seek the same kind of relationship with Russia. Polish have nothing to gain by becoming a war zone for NATO. Weak fickle Polish should learn from the past, and not repeat the same mistakes.

        • Weldon Cheek

          Well put.

  • George King

    Unfortunately the Saker is correct in regards to “In truth, both the EU and the US are increasingly becoming irrelevant to Russia whose future is in the South, the East and even the North” and “If we look at the internal components of the AngloZionist Empire, then we can see that for Russia the USA will continue to matter the most, then the European Union”.

    The key here is the “AngloZionist Empire” and rather than going in to what that is I will just say that for the average US citizen that has meant the draining of Treasure, Commons and Inalienable Rights with not only benefits for US citizens but the placing of shackles and servitude on them bordering on the life of an indentured servant not in the citizens interest but Empire’s masters.

    Servants typically worked four to seven years in exchange for passage, room, board, lodging and freedom dues. While the life of an indentured servant was harsh and restrictive, it wasn’t slavery. There were laws that protected some of their rights. How is that any different than what we see in the student loan industry and the bailing out of the very “AngloZionist Empire” of their casino style transnational criminal cabal banking and corporations while denying basic medical care to support the society and they are still left with over 20 trillion in debt to be paid by the citizens in the form of taxes to finance it all.

    The key for the American citizens would be to cleanse the conspirators (willing or not) from bureaucracy and goverment power, without this there is no future for what is a dying empire and ravished by a vampire. It does not take a lot of research to uncover the powers bringing this destruction but there is a tie observed in the neocon/neoliberal that is undeniable to this destruction.

    If this was done by the citizens (is it possible?) The country could be restored and the possibilities of US/Russia co-operation is unlimited to what it could produce for both countries and the world for that matter. Bering Straight (35 miles wide and shallow) pipeline to Alaska and down through the existing infrastructure to the lower 48 (bye bye ME wars and expenditures).

    High speed transportation links across this same route to link up with Russia and possibly the “New Silk Road” would allow for the bringing of most troops home to rebuild the infrastructure (the military already furnishes benefits as medical and the GI Bill). Closing military bases around the world as resources re channeled would indeed finance most if not all of it. Energy sector must be improved to convert in the long haul into renewable resources and industries and markets diversified to meet the future demands and security of all involved.

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  • Kell

    The Saker posted this very interesting video last year, a Secret FSB/KGB lecture and an insite into what Putin knows and his motivations.

    https://youtu.be/kuf9d3sci-w

    • Orcbuu

      The Translation is in some Point very INaccurate(Wrong).
      I suggest to you, Learn Russian(Hardest Language on the Planet).

      • Kell

        Mmm thats unfortunate, love to learn Russian though but yeah haha

        • Orcbuu

          As he says by Pushkins Words: Global Truth is Hidden by Translators!
          Thats why Google translator is Shit :)
          And thats why they try to Make more and more smaller Countrys with there OWN language that is no more older then 1-200 years.
          For example Ukraine falls into this categorie. And the Whole film is also very Ukraine Global Agenda.
          If u REALLY start searching for the Truth you will find that Europe was once a FULL russian Speaking Nation, and thats why in europe you have everywhere Countrys with there OWN language. Even when the people are mostly the same Blood Genetics!

          • Kell

            Were any major points mistranslated?

          • Orcbuu

            Some Parts are not even translated BUT nothing MAJOR. Just some MIStranslations at the first 20 minutes i think, but you could misunderstand this things. In general i would suggest to watch it anyway, because the Message is VERY VERY important for every Humanbeing.

          • Kell

            Yes I agree, this video is Gold!!!

          • Orcbuu

            And maby u want to watch some nice fairly tales too, very funny and always with a deep message u have to understand it first to SEE it in the films.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTE1ognhT1o&list=PLN0MniPYTGkrzIoyqy2gTznaFcDYw3qXj
            and the one i posted u before but the whole version
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31G6up6q50&index=5&list=PLN0MniPYTGkrzIoyqy2gTznaFcDYw3qXj

          • Kell

            Awesome thanks.

          • Kell

            Beautiful stuff, its no doubt we in the West have been deliberately separated from Nature and our own old ways, Russia is target in the same way,. never lose your ways

          • Kell

            Russia should make a world wide kids channel, in English like RT, could be like the old Disney before the jews took it over and turned it degenerate

          • Orcbuu

            Even Before watching this, and to answer your question inbefore, im pretty sure that many people in the world KNOW this who is who. Im pretty sure he Knows it. Because a lot of Humans know who is who. its just we are not as important to get this Knowledge. As the FSB(KGB) Lesson guy said, do you want to show your dog how smart you are?! As the Swissbankers told him.

          • Kell

            I suspect there are more, if we have heard of the Rothchilds et al they must’nt be the top echelon, the ones with unknown names

          • Orcbuu

            I would suggest the Jews who Fled Egypt with all the Gold, Pure Bloodline of Incestious Satanist Priesterhood.

          • Kell

            Hyksos translates in Egyptian as “The Parasites” ive seen evidence to suggest the Habiru (hebrws) were the Hyksos and related to Akhenaten that the jewish media cant seem to get enough of.
            The word Averice survives to this day in English meaning unbelivable cruelty/evil for no reason, the name comes from an Egyptian city called Averice which was the last Egyptian city before the jews got out of Egypt, in this city they raped tortured and murdered all the inhabitants, burnt buildings/temples/library’s/crops
            and this event is remembered to this day in the English word Averice.

          • Orcbuu

            Well i learned a lot today. From this Post alone, i hope i can remember it.
            In arabic the word Semit means Poison but right now the Arabs are themself Semites now, they where not always this “BROWN” i have to say.

          • Kell
          • Orcbuu

            Watch this Kinda nice Observation of this guy. Its about a very very old fairy tail.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqeoPpmpoxM

          • Kell

            Could the copper pipes represent the cycle of the ages ie Kali Yuga?

          • Kell

            I came across some interesting concepts when I was in Egypt.

            https://youtu.be/qwvYT36nPrs?t=940

          • Orcbuu

            Who knows :)
            One more thing maby, the Sanskrit, is being told to be the Oldest Writing on earth, but who gave it to them, i can tell you that Old Russian is very Sanskrit Based :)

          • Kell

            I know the Montefiores that took over Australia are hardly ever mentioned, german jews with Black Nobility Venice accounting for Italian sounding name

          • Kell

            In the linked video the General (translation suggests) has no problem identifying the whos who of jewish families behind the oppression of humanity, was hoping for some insite on those we have never heard before.

          • Kell
  • Alex Popoff

    Whole “zionist” theory is shit. Look at Israel, surrounded with enemies, living in a desert with a war state for years. If fairy “zionists” could rule at least something in this world Israel fate wouldnt be so bitter.

    • Kell

      No no thats the point – the 6 million (for real this time) have to die to usher in the NWO messiah,. why else do you think Rothschild set it up where it is,. the Germans and Brits wanted them to go to Madegascar.,

      • Alex Popoff

        Yeah, yeah… and these “almighty” jews were being treated as pingpong ball when big boys decided their destiny: Madagaskar, Siberia or Palestine.

        • Kell

          What about the 6 million about to be BBQ’d?

          • Alex Popoff

            Jewish destiny during WW2 was very bitter that proves again that they do not rule anything in this world. Jews do not rule even eastern part of their main city. UN even dont recognise Israel sovereignity over it.

            So everyone who pushes this nonesense about “zionism” is moron in better case.

          • Kell

            Oh I see where your coming from now, you dont realise not all jews are the same, check out the British israel movement, Rothschilds et al in the City of London, they have no probl;em using other jews and indeed having them lit up to further their goals just ask Soros,. the Ashkenazi jews are considered cryptos ie non genuine converts that are disposable

          • Kell
          • Kell

            They make up 89% of the jews worldwide and most of Israel consists of them ie they are not semitic but of Turkic/Mongol descent.

  • tigbear

    Ukraine was much better when under pro-Russia Yanukovich. Because of the Jewish-led Orange Revolution (a fake revolution) in 2014, Yanukovich was deposed. The Ukrainian people are too easily manipulated. They must reject Jews in position of leadership. Now, Ukraine has become Zionist. Whenever there is a “revolution”, ask yourselves if Jews are behind it. 90% of the times, they ARE. (Like they are behind 90% of the world’s major terrorism incidents.)
    http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/lg/public/2012/03/07/245236-ukraines-president-viktor-yanukovich-toasts-with-syrias-president-bash.jpg