After the January 3 assasination of Iran’s General Qassem Soleimani in Iraq’s Baghdad and the following ‘mysterious strikes’ on nearby Camp Taji, the United States and Iran are balancing on the brink of an open military conflict in the Middle East.
The United States is deploying new troops and equipment apparently preparing for further military actions. Washington has already sent nearly 3,000 additional troops to the Middle East from the 82nd Airborne Division. This is almost one of three Airborne Brigade Combat Teams that compound the 82nd Airborne Division. These troops will be reportedly deployed in Iraq and Kuwait.
Since May, the US has already deployed about 14,000 additional troops to the Middle East.
While the US sides tries to present these moves as a kind of defensive action needed to respond to expected ‘Iranian agression’, in fact, this move looks more like a prepartion for the war.
Various maps and infographics showing ‘Iranian proxies’ in the Middle East became especially popular in mainstream media:
On January 3, Iran’s ambassador to the United Nations described the US killing of General Soleimani as an act of war and said that the response to a military action is a military action.
“In fact, it was an act of war on the part of the United States against the Iranian people,” Majid Takht-e Ravanchi told CNN’s OutFront program. The attack was “a new chapter, which is tantamount to opening a war against Iran.”
“The response for a military action is a military action,” he said. “By whom? By… when? Where? That is for the future to witness.”
"The response for a military action is a military action,” Iran’s ambassador to the United Nations, Majid Takht Ravanchi, tells @ErinBurnett. “By whom? By… when? Where? That is for the future to witness.” pic.twitter.com/XR6mCrLbys
— OutFrontCNN (@OutFrontCNN) January 4, 2020
On January 4, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi mourners turned out in Baghdad for the funeral of General Qassem Soleimani, the commander of the Quds Force of Iran’s Islamic Revolution Guards Corps, and Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, the second-in-command of Iraq’s Popular Mobilization Units, as well as other Iraqi and Iranian officers killed in US strikes on Baghdad.
Soon, the Iraqi Parliament is expected to vote on a bill expelling around 5,200 US troops deployed in the country. US National Adviser Robert O’Brien commented on this possibility by warning the Iraqi Parliament against such a ‘hostile’ move. Even if the Parliament votes to put an end to the US military presence in Iraq, it’s unlikely that Washington will obey to this decision. The US troops will remain in Iraq as an official occupation force.
US top officials and diplomats are fiercely working to demonize the killed people and justify the recent act of aggression against Iran and Iraq.
A quote from the State Department press briefing on the situation in Iraq (source):
SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL ONE: We did – this was a defensive strike that was taken and supported by very solid intelligence, and I’ve seen all the intelligence. This was strongly supported by everything that we were seeing that Soleimani was planning imminent attacks against American diplomats and our armed forces members in Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, and in the region.
Given – so Soleimani is the major architect. He is the architect of Iran’s major terrorist attacks over the last 20 years. He’s killed 608 Americans in Iraq alone. And so when we start seeing extensive and very solid intelligence that he is plotting imminent attacks against the United States, the President, as Commander-in-Chief, has a duty to take decisive action.
That decisive action has been threatened for a year and a half, since September 11th of 2018, when the White House put out a statement saying that there – this is after the rocket attacks on our diplomatic facilities in Iraq, and he said we are going to deny Iran the fiction of deniable attacks; we’re not going to honor the distinction, the false distinction between Iran and the regime and its proxies, and if the regime or its proxies strike at American interests or personnel they’ll – there will be decisive action. Secretary Pompeo said it on December 13th. We’ve said it more times than I can count. The Iranians just didn’t believe us. And the Iranians met the condition of the threat.
And as – and so – and I’ll also say this: If we had not taken this action, and hundreds of Americans were dead, you would be asking me, “Why didn’t you take out Soleimani when you had the chance?” I get all these questions about, “Oh, aren’t you – isn’t this the beginning of something bigger?” and everything else. This was – the conditions were met to take decisive action to eliminate a very, very, very effective terrorist in the heart of the Middle East to save hundreds of American lives.
Assisted in the clandestine travel to Afghanistan of 10 of the 12 terrorists who carried out the September 11 terrorist attacks in the United States.
— Mike Pence (@Mike_Pence) January 3, 2020
The US President also works to justify the killing of one of the key persons behind the defeat of ISIS in Iraq and Syria:
A statement from President @realDonaldTrump: pic.twitter.com/Jfy4GCLdif
— The White House (@WhiteHouse) January 3, 2020
The Popular Mobilization Units is an official part of the Iraqi Armed Forces. This does not stop Washington from designation its factions as terrorist groups.
On January 3, the State Department officially designated the PMU’s Asa’ib Ahl al-Haq (one of the biggest groups within the organziation) and its leaders as terrorists (source):
Today, the Secretary of State announced his intent to designate Aas’ib Ahl al-Haq — also known as AAH — as a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO) under section 219 of the Immigration and Nationality Act. Additionally, the Secretary has designated AAH and two of its leaders, brothers Qays and Laith al-Khazali, as Specially Designated Global Terrorists (SDGT) under Executive Order (E.O.) 13224.
“AAH and its leaders are violent proxies of the Islamic Republic of Iran,” said Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. “Acting on behalf of their masters in Tehran, they use violence and terror to further the Iranian regime’s efforts to undermine Iraqi sovereignty.” AAH is extensively funded and trained by Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) Quds Force, an entity that was part of the IRGC designation as an FTO in April 2019.
These designations seek to deny AAH and its leadership the resources to plan and carry out terrorist attacks. Among other consequences of designations, all of AAH and the al-Khazali brothers’ property and interests that are within the United States or that come within the United States or that come within the possession or control of U.S. persons, are blocked, and U.S. persons are generally prohibited from engaging in any transactions with them. In addition, as a designated FTO, it is a federal crime to knowingly provide, or attempt or conspire to provide, material support or resources to AAH.
AAH, led by Qays and Laith al-Khazali, is an Iran-backed, militant organization that has claimed responsibility for more than 6,000 attacks against U.S. and Coalitions forces since its creation in 2006. AAH has carried out highly sophisticated operations, including mortar attacks on an American base, the downing of a British helicopter, and an attack on the Karbala Provincial Headquarters that resulted in the capture and murder of five American soldiers.
Today’s designations follow an action taken by the U.S. Department of the Treasury on December 6, 2019, to designate Qays and Laith al-Khazali pursuant to E.O. 13818 for their involvement in serious human rights abuses in Iraq, including approving the use of lethal force against protesters for the purpose of public intimidation. The FTO designation of AAH will take effect after a statutory 7-day congressional notification period. The SDGT designations of AAH and the al-Khazali brothers are effective immediately.
Today’s actions notify the U.S. public and the international community that this group is a terrorist organization and its leaders, the Khazali brothers, who have participated in its terrorist acts, are SDGTs. Terrorist designations expose and isolate entities and individuals, and deny them access to the U.S. financial system. Moreover, designations can assist the law enforcement activities of U.S. agencies and other governments.
Commenting on the ongoing escalation, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said that the US is ready for any Iranian answer and the Trump’s administration is ready to do all what is needed to ‘protect Americans’. Therefore, Washington will see any Iranian response or any action by Iranian allies like Hezbollah or Ansar Allah (the Houthis) as an act of war by Iran and will carry out more military actions against the country.
WW3 is only one Tweet away. “Real Donald Trump” is itching for “real”war with Iran and “real” total collapse of US economy and even “real” WW3.
“this was a defensive strike that was taken and supported by very solid intelligence, and I’ve seen all the intelligence. This was strongly supported by everything that we were seeing that Soleimani was planning imminent attacks against American diplomats and our armed forces members in Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, and in the region.”
They drew a strange and illogical arguments because now ameriscums will have to fear a military response by Iran with thousands of marines killed for sure
“military response by Iran with thousands of marines killed for sure” – LOL. There will be no significant response because the Iranians are just too scared.
Riddle me this, but, what happened when a little Iranian RIB picked up those US marines and their ISIS commander, when floating in Iranian waters?
Who was doing the crying and in dire need of NATO strength pampers?
The same, when the UK sailors strayed into Iranian waters. So not a good look, tears and military fatigues.
Iran general scoffs: US sailors cried when we captured them Revolutionary Guards officer says servicemen briefly held this week were only released after ‘Americans humbly admitted our might and power’… https://www.timesofisrael.com/iranian-general-us-sailors-cried-when-we-captured-them/
IRANIAN NAVY CHASES US MARINES FROM HORMUZ
‘…The LGBTQ-friendly US Navy however, in the midst of all this peacocking, suffered another humiliation in Iran. Reuters News (a subsidiary of Thomson-Reuters, a major US military and security contractor) reported this morning that US warship were chased out of the Strait of Hormuz by Iranian gunboats…
…The incident also takes place just days before Iran is expected to satisfy the terms of last summer’s nuclear deal. Once the U.N. nuclear agency confirms Iran’s actions to roll back its program, the United States and other Western powers are obliged to suspend wide-ranging oil, trade and financial sanctions on Tehran. Kerry recently said the deal’s implementation was “days away.”.’ https://nightwind777.blogspot.com/2016/07/iranian-navy-chases-us-marines-from.html
“NATO strength pampers” :-)))))))))))
Ha ha ha ha!I l love that!!
US seems wary of directly hitting Iran too – what did Trump do about the 200m drone shot down, or the Aramco attacks. Iran will respond asymmetrically as they always do
The mullahs regime forced Trump to respond. I really think Trump doesn’t want a war with Iran. But the Iranians know that there will be a severe respond to any action of their in the future.
B.S. – Israel wants the US to go to war with Iran, therefore Trump wants war with Iran.
“Israel wants the US to go to war with Iran” – Yes. “Trump wants war with Iran” – No. He restrain the army for months, until an American citizen was killed.
Yes, this so called ‘American contractor’
Who was he Rambo ? We still don’t know his name.
And what was he doing at K1 , diverting Iraqi oi up to the Bazrian Kurds.
If Iran can uncover this problem of covered up corruption, heads will roll,
and they won’t have to do anything.
but the juice is always half empty and you better start wanking hard to fill it up… Its either that or providing the services to fill er up..
Iraq 2003 – didn’t the Pentagon provide Bell Pottinger over $500 million, to spin the Iraq War?
Heard it all before. The General was erasing the International Secret Intelligence Services and the US did not like seeing the demise of their friends. Which nations fund the White Helmets/International Secret Intelligence Services/Daesh/Al Qaeda or whatever they are called today?
‘We will take out 7 nations in 5 years, ending in Iran’ – General Wesley Clark and member of the Atlantic Council back in 2003.
39 Iraq serving military personnel, were taken out on the borders, in late December, by the US and the Iranian General was on his way to their funeral. Iran and Iraq, friendly neighbours at the moment and Iraq who invited the US to stay as their guests. Now what guests, take out the security your provide them with and go after your neighbours? How does that work in International Law and please remind me what World Leaders have come out in support of Trump?
4 July 1776, the US gained independence from Great Britain and have only had 19 years peace in total since then. How many millions of lives have the US and NATO taken out, in the name of peace? Including the 500,000 dead Iraq children and babies, that Albright thought was well worth the price?
A perennial problem with governments is the use of language that is inverse to the accepted definition, of course. War = Peace, Peace = War ,etc etc.
As a teenager I recall the time in the mid 60’s when the British war Department was renamed the Ministry of Defence. With a complete inverse of the more accurate word ‘War’ being accomplished in 1971.
The description ‘War Department’ was a more honest description of British military adventures of subjugation in far off lands , I think.
Since the coming of the Ministry of Defence, Britain has been engaged in a plethora of wars in foreign lands and since WW2 the British Isles has been ‘invaded’ by tens of millions of migrants.
The Ministry of Defence has failed miserably in the defence of Britain.
The simple concept of ‘word inversion’ confuses all too many minds.
That is interesting with regards changing the ‘War Department’ to the Orwellian ‘Ministry of Defence’. When you are working on making the first priority of Government, the national security and defence of nation, people and dependent territories you last priority.
Just a few years later, the UK joined the Common Market, back in 1975, courtesy of easy to blackmail, owing to lifestyle choices, Edward Heath. Think it was 1975 I was reading Orwell, both Animal Farm ‘all animals are equal, only some more equal than others’ and ‘1984’, the template for the Western 21st century. Wasn’t Heath our leader from 1970 – 1974. With Jeremy Thorpe leading the Liberals, when they were once respected. Now whatever ever happened to dear Jeremy and wasn’t he another leader, who could easily be blackmailed, owing to his lifestyle choices?
I never liked Harold Wilson, as a child, owing to his cloth cap and rather miserable looking face. When I started voting, it was courtesy of Orwell and coming to the conclusion, that they were all nasty people, however, one party was at least honest about it.
Now, I find myself actually respecting old Harold, together with George Galloway and I never thought that would happen, in my lifetime. Never liked Heath and my views on him, were even more negative than my views on Harold Wilson. Didn’t George Bush, when Director of the CIA, stitch up Harold Wilson? Plus, who tried to assassinate Heath?
As a young teenager , I thought Jimmy Saville, Edward Heath,Jeremy Thorpe and others of that persona were creepy, although I could not explain why at the time.
I recall feeling uncomfortable to sit and watch Jimmy Saville on Top of the Pops with my family.
Iran’s mullahs regime is a paper tiger. A global power of threats and hot air. There will be no significant response because the Iranians are just too scared.
LOL. Do you remember the USS Donald Cook, in the Black Sea, back in March 2014 or was it April 2014? When it got taken out by a Russian Whicker Basket, that was laden with goodies devised in Iran?
The Donald Cook, went back for more, in the Baltic Sea and so did the USS Theodore Roosevelt, the aircraft carrier. Not a good look, when sailors are begging to resign, owing to being left without weapons, systems or any form of power, as they find themselves try to paddle a destroyer or aircraft carrier, out in the beautiful, deep blue sea.
So, that was what one Iranian Doctor devised and a very long time ago. So what has Iran got, in their non-tactical weapon toy box, to completment the old Magrav technology and more importantly, just how much further have they moved on?
What has the US produced, in the 21st century, where military weapons and systems are concerned, that actually work?
The Iranians did not respond to the Israeli attacks, nor will they respond significantly now. They did not expect the US response to their actions, but the Iranians are not stupid. They know what their true capabilities are.
Because Iran is deciding on her response and not mistaking a stroking oneself with your right hand, to a playstation game of drones and precision strikes, you seriously believe they have happily accepted what Agent Orange has prescribed?
‘The deaths of 500,000 Iraq babies and children, was well worth the price’ – Madelaine Albright, speaking about the 2003 Iraq War and remind me, what was that all about?
‘…Iran general scoffs: US sailors cried when we captured them Revolutionary Guards officer says servicemen briefly held this week were only released after ‘Americans humbly admitted our might and power’…’
Time will tell and a measured response, says so much.
American “response to their actions”? Yeah, the Iranian actions of helping to rid Syria of ISIS under Gen. Soleimani. That’s what the US (and Israel) are really pissed about.
The US coalition has kicked ISIS out of Iraq and eastern Syria. The Iranians were surprised that Americans responded to the death of the American citizen and the attack on the American embassy. Soleimani felt too comfortable.
The Star Ship Enterprise, AM. :)
Something like this:
The Firm – Star Trekkin’… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCARADb9asE
I so enjoyed the US Space Command promo, AM. Thank you.
Iran would be foolish to go head to head with US it learned that with Saddams experience. Their only option is asymmetric tactics & use of proxies. Why has US never attacked Iran directly in 40 years, so far its a campaign against proxies in Syria/Iraq. US would defeat Iran but they would suffer losses too, bases close by could be hit & Hormuz temporarily closed.
Has anybody noticed that no world leaders, as far as I am aware, have come out in support of Donald Trump. Taking out a General, from a friendly nation, to the nation that has invited the US as guests, whilst he was attending a funeral of 39 Iraq Serving Military Personnel, who were taken out by the US, peeved at some mercenary being taken out.
How does that apply, with regards International law, no matter what US domestic laws have popped up. Where does the US stand with regards international law and the matter?
Trump is due to go to Davos, to beg for money, on the 21-24 of this month. Iran, Russia and China have just held joint military exercises and we are approaching the Orthodox Christmas Celebration.
The Impeachment case, the US public were sick and tired of it and it was backfiring on the Dems. Together with Rudi, finding so much corruption between the Dems and Ukraine. So why has Trump, yet again, changed the headlines, when things were working in his favour, whilst looking at the bigger picture. Now the impeachment will disappear as the media focus on that war with Iran, they have desperately craved.
‘We will take out 7 nations in 5 years, ending with iran’ – General Wesley Clarke 2003.
Not a fan of the NYT, but, the headline interested me.
New York Times Reveals America’s Weapons-Makers Drive Trump-Impeachment… https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/new-york-times-reveals-americas-weapons-makers-drive-trump-impeachment
Good point US are on their own on this one..Just the way IsraHell likes it ! That American blood will be spilled for IsraHelli interests (and for free!) to fight major IsraHell’s enemy. IsraHell is ready to fight to the last American if need be.
With regards Trump and the 2020 elections, he got in on the ‘peace ticket’ and cannot see Body Bags flown back from the Middle East a vote grabber.
Every single time, during the Russia Gate story, Trump was gaining momentum, he would go and do something to change the headlines back. Two weeks later, the media would return to the story, minus what Trump could have used to his advantage.
Wonder how many bonus points Trump has achieved, from the Davos crowd, owing to his stupidity on the world stage?
You got point there… but he is fishing any kind of “patriotic” support as long they don’t have “Body Bags flown back from the Middle East”
I have no clue how he thinks that he can pull this one out without Americans being killed? Must have something to do with his neocon “Middle East advisers”. And he is most definitely ignorant and even stooped enough to believe that US inspire fear to Iranians and that they would not dear to attack “mighty” U.S.
Must admit, I seriously cannot get my head around what he had to gain.
Pompeo and Graham come out rejoicing. However, doesn’t Pompeo always put the interests of Israel first and Graham, the interests of whatever is floating close to his back pocket, whether money or friends, first?
Plus, with regards Impeachment and Ukraine, there was no case. Now he has happily handed over a reason for impeachment.
Taking out a General, who was attending the funeral of 39 serving military members, in a friendly neighbouring country. The US who were guests of that nation, who took out 39 security personnel of the nation, and then went on to take out an invited Guest, who was attending a state funeral. What for? Because your mate, running Israel with domestic problems, needs a favour?
Reminds me of President Johnson, who blamed his own forces and sided with those who took out the USS Liberty, together with Admiral McCain, the father of John McCain. I could not get my head around that, in the same way I cannot get my head around Trump’s insanity. Just in time, to provide dinner conversation, around the Davos Dining Table. Who is going to Davos this year?
I have Hans to care for, so I was unable to go to Davos on an electric bicycle this year, AM.
Hans has now self identified as a human eunuch, so I fully expect my £3000 p.a carers allowance very soon.
I am prepared to go to the EU Court of Human Rights if the retards refuse my just claim.
Haha, have you noticed that we have picked up the downvote clones for the New Year?
Wish Hans a Happy New Year and all the best with his ‘human eunuch’ tendencies. Remind him, he will have more fun sticking with being a horse, and allowing his ‘human eunuch’ master to tend his every need and keep him in the style in which he has become accustomed to. Trusting not all eunuchs take the castration pathway haha and please do not answer.
Ooooooooooo you are cheeky :) LOL.
Haha, and no insults intended, just asking Hans if he has looked at all sides of the story.
Hans is a vegan, so he is very sensitive to the Self Flagellation ideologies of today.
He thinks Greta looks like a cruel witch though, and I have to agree with him.
I would have thought as a vegan that Greta’s looks wouldn’t matter as the taste is what counts. I would change the whips to strands of soft silk which turns flagellation into a pleasure rather than atonement.
If only he could use a keyboard, I wonder what story Hans would have to tell? Although I love horses, hope I do not come back as one, if I have to stick to a vegan diet. Do like my meat and two veg, whatever life I am living.
Horny as well I am led to believe, AM :)
Just seen your other comment, but, Disqus is playing up, with regards letting me reply the usual way.
Well it is the New Year and no doubt Hans has his mind on his New Year Resolutions. Hope there are some happy mares close by, that could do with a visit from Hans. Or do you expect him to have his own set of morals to live upto haha?
His friends the Zionists had to gain. They’ve been wanting the US to go to war with Iran for a long time.
I seriously hope that Iran takes time to think of how to react. At the end of the day, Trump has to go to Davos, with his begging bowl, loaned by Poroshenko and kickstarting the first part of the exercise, which was war with Iran. In order for the US to avoid bankruptcy on the 31 January 2020. Who will he be dining with over in Davos, besides the satanists, as they toast their success with the blood of the innocent?
Iran can do far more damage, by forcing the US to either wait for that war, which will never materialise, or finding another major US artery to inflict the damage. Such as the economy. I seriously hope they hold their own and discuss things with their allies and nations that respect them, before doing anything hasty.
At the end of the day, no leaders have come out to side with Trump. Likewise, they refused to do the same, when the US pulled out of the nuclear deal, with Iran. Which said a lot then and also does the same now.
Not sure why Iraq is still allowing the US to be guests in the country, considering they have been their since 2003 and the reason back then, were pure international lie3s.
But on the other hand both Russia and China have made weak statements as usual. Kruschev would have kicked US/UK out long time ago with a threat to bomb London, while Putin seems to pursue the equal partner appeasement strategy.
Prefer the wisdom, intelligence, diplomacy and skills of President Putin and President Xi Jinping. Calm, measured and not hypersensitive and irrational. I guess it would never have occurred to most, that the pair of them are working out how to deal with the aftermath and stop the Middle East from imploding. Just because Trump does not wish to dine alone at Davos.
Iran is as disambiguous as it can be. It says some foundations in international coexistence can’t be destroyed and still keep the foundation of coexistence. You can’t openly initiate a conflict against us and not risking consequential retaliation. Only a retaliation with equal consequence and without further American attack can end a war spiral. No civilian will be targeted be it US citizens or otherwise, and only disambiguous military actions against US military by Iranian military will do. No US amount of saberratting will change it. Iran has never initiated war, but is prepared to take the fight even when it comes to war. Similar to the UK seizing the Iranian tanker at Gibraltar with proportionally bigger significance.
Must admit, I am getting seriously wound up, with so many media disinformation trolls, being financed to spin the same about the General as they did with regards Sadam and Gaddafi. What irritates me more than anything, and not the idiots who take the 30 pieces of silver, is the masses that never question anything. It is not even 2 decades, since the Iraq War in 2003 and how even the masses found out they were lied to, by the media and politicians, concerning what led us to war.
I seriously hope there are enough awake and questioning the lies, whilst Iran stays calm, measured, mature and professional, as they think of the most effective way to strike back, that the idiots would not realise or understand was coming.
Trump caters to neocon’s the proves are everywhere. One just have to think about the people he chooses for major posts in administration and the answer is clear.
Yes Pompeo always put the interests of Israel first and Graham also. While Trump is right behind them in those efforts. His only problem is that he puts himself in danger also because these moves can backfire.
“Now he has happily handed over a reason for impeachment.” Killing of top Iranian general is so much in interest of IsraHell, neocons and war hungry “deep state”, that nobody will attack Trump on that account. Yes it was totally illegal a pure state terrorism and act of war (and all the rest you have mentioned). But since when US would care about “details” like that? They never did as long as it is in their interests.
Good example. It is simple U.S. elites who control America are anti-American to the bone. And those who want to get and stay on the top of power, must respect that simple fact.
Do believe he has many faces and you never know what he will come out with, till he chooses the face of the day. Face to face he is very friendly and grovelling to his peers, yet, give him a phone and his twitter account, he comes out with something completely different.
Do believe the end of the bubble is coming and who knows which way it will go. Still believe light always overcomes darkness, and will carry on believing that, till I wake up as a thermo-nuclear piece of dust, wondering what adventures can be had in the next life haha.
He is faking so much that even he himself is not sure which of “many faces” is his. Duplicity is his identity I suppose and vanity is core of his personality
You are bright and well informed person reading independent news on internet. Surly you will not get caught by surprise with the collapse of the dollar and all the consequences.
I know it is coming and perhaps what happened in Iraq, is to try and prevent it, however, what a pathetic idea, when one Empire is being replaced by another, for dominant position. To try to create war, to avoid that scenario.
Yeah I agree…”war” They are not very original with that idea. It is obvious they like the profits war creates.
Worked in the past and then along came the internet.
No matter what they want, I seriously do not think it will work out for them.
I think the real question is ” did Trump know and or agree to this action or was it taken by others with their own agenda and he has to come to table saying it was him or look totally stupid for not being in charge.” Everytime he has said to pull troops out shortly after there is an excuse to send them all back plus more. It looks more and more like others are pulling the strings and he is jumping from side to side trying to keep up. I don’ think he is in charge. Even the advisors that supposedly went to the meeting couldn’t come up with the same story as to what actually happened. Something is rotten in the state of Denmark ..
Must admit, I did wonder. Pompeo, Graham and Pence are no doubt more than happy. Personally, I cannot believe he was such an idiot to go along with it and what comes next?
USS Liberty and President Johnson, aided by General McCain, so comes to mind, with another nation rejoicing in the background.
USS Liberty was a US/UK instruction to Israel, trying to get Egypt drawn into a war or negotiation position. US/UK uses often Israel as scapegoat for their operations.
The Iran tensions raise the oil price from which US now the biggest oil exporter will cash in big. Weaken Europe and China even more.
Interesting that USS Liberty, was sacrificed by the US and UK, and it was them that ordered Israel to take out the sailors on the ship, leaving no witnesses (but fate intervened), so they could blame Egypt.
Beig English, I do dislike it when we are accused of the crimes of the City of London, who just happen to be freeloading squatters in our nation, with their own set of rules , laws and taxes. The same as the crowd in Washington DC and over in the Vatican. The Vatican, a country that squats in another country and Washington DC a district, that also has the same set up as the City of London. Who controls them all?
However, the US President at the time, seemed to have no problem with Israel taking out the ship and those who served under and wore the American flag.
What imbeciles do we actually elect as our politicians?
Except the MSM seems always to support him when he attacks-remember the Tomahawk bombing in Syria? I heard a little of what NBC said last night on the “news” (while cooking dinner) and they seem to be fully behind the murders of Gen. Soleimani and Gen. al-Muhandis.
Yes KB you are right to underline that. Of course MSM supports more wars and anybody who pushes that agenda. “Deep state” always supports her line of action (MORE WARS ) and those who follow that line. But still they might attack him on some other accounts. The best attacks and the best propaganda is when you pries somebody for what is “well done”(as proof of the “objectivity”) while using in the same time some nasty accusations to ruin that person.
There was a poll where 120 million Americans agreed to nuke Japan again if necessary.
There are other coments that are good but I have another angle, its about Iraq, when that is solved, the yankikes gone, ISIS will be dead, in Syria and Iraq, and never forget this, ISIS is the western Gov assets. And the HasbaRats are everywhere, and dont forget that they are an diversion agency, so dont bit onto everything you read, incl people whom insist they are genuine Iranians, etc, etc. They get payed by every coment they make, so right now they are everywhere incl here.
Yeah, never rush into something before you know if it will change anything. And to be frank, I think the present Iraqi Gov and parliament is way to corrupt to change anything as to rock the boat, regading the presence and the influence of the Yankikes, there is simply to many of this elite of the Iraqi militia and finacial/corps leaders and then we have the rich whom benefits from the presence of the UssA in Iraq, and you have generals whom is obvious 5 colums, traitores, and would sell their soul and gandmother for an fist full of silver coins, thats whats going on right now, because of an slight settback the status quo is what this traitores are fighting for to maintain, of course they will drown in with drivel, but the effect is and will be that nobody is going to do anything, and I dont extect anything new or readical to come from the Iraqi parliament of Gov. Yup you did get that M. Pence twatt, and you should go to ZeroH to read more, eh…. about Iranian sleeper cells coming from P. Watson aka InfoW, an man I never read, this time just to see what on earth have this rat coocked up this time, and most of the so called “alt-right” aka friends of Trump, are ISISraeli die hard friends and hates Iran, and have no problems with inventing whatever they want to continue the idiot propaganda about what Iran will and can do.
What a lot of people dont realise, is that the ISIS/Daesh/Al-CIAeda are western backed and created, years before and solidifyed in the Syrian war and they are friends of the West, never forget that, and that narrative is what national MSM writes in nations like Norway, Assad is the evil one, not ISIS, and then the PMUs whom fought them back and have more or less managed to end their war, is now targeted by Trump, Jews aka Neo-CONs and the Yankike MICs, and that is due to keeping their vauled assets alive, and why on earth would any sane person bomb the very same people fighting ISIS. Yeah. and thats what we have been saying for f…. years, and now, when its glearingly obvious, it gets suddenly dead silent, hell even the despecable European ISIS suporters are desperat to drool this event down and starts to whine about QS was behind 9/11, yeah, whats next, killing JFK.
What I recomend is take it easy, Iranians can be a lot of things but never stupid, and will of course, take their time, while solidifying the present defences to be more alinged with the future, but my consern is what will the Iraqis do, or are we watching an echoe of Bolivia, where high ranking Militia and Elite will overun the people and make every effort to quell resitance, because of the fatc it benefits them, and the UssA and nobody else, thats why Iraqis you have no future, no jobs, an nation is ruins and fights inbetween groups, and the sad raping of Islam on top of it will not make anything better other than continue the status quo. This time, Iraqis, is foor the first time in years, that you indeed have an option, but that depends on if the Gov and politicans can give it to you, or even want to do so, but thats where we are right now, and if you dont take it, you will loose, in the long run and into the shot time, you will never get your country back.
You have summed it up rather well. Iraq government will do nothing.
If they Iraqi government turns out to be a complete US puppet on Sunday by allowing the continuation of the evil US occupation in Iraq how will that turn out to be after all that happened this week?
The Islamist Iranians will look like paper tigers and have to retreat to their home pens.
If the Iraqi puppet government refuses to evict the US occupiers tomorrow, Iran will respond militarily to the assassination of its leaders and even before that happens, Iraq will be in a state of civil war very quickly. Make no mistake about that.
Except your analysis on Iraqi corrupted military and government which is good. Your comment is ok but very long and basically talks about things that are known (maybe not to everybody on the planet).Known on this forum for sure.
I think the parliament may have a majority of votes if all the Shia block unite but I think you are correct the government is so corrupted they will just ignore it & even if they wanted to really do anything the US would just say they are fighting Iranian backed terrorism.
P. Watson aka InfoW – liked his stuff on MH17, but, did see the ZH comment and thought I would give his take on Iranian sleeper cells a wide berth.
The pay to play trolls, out in force and somebody spending a lot of money to post the soundbite of the day, are coming out with Iranian refugees, coming in on the Libya to Europe Cruise Lines.
Funny, but, I thought the human traffickers, that were running the Libya to Europe Cruise Lines, were using their own mercenaries, from the Middle East (ISIS?White Helmets/Daesh/Al Qaeda or whatever they are called today) and African friends. Not the genuine from Iran or Syria. Did find it comical, in a very dark way, that the soundbite should be focused on Iranian refugees and wonder how much that is costing Soros? Sadly, the masses will buy it, without even considering asking questions.
Like you, I do view the Iranians as professional and mature adults, that will look at the best scenario for all. Together with the fact they go for non-tactile weapons and are not believers of weapons of mass destruction.
USS Donald Cook – Magrav Technology and look how stupid Iran made the US navy look on the world stage? Admittedly, Russia had the technology in a simple whicker basket, but, it was originated in Iran.
RIP in peace to the General, and his team, together with the 39 members of the Iraq Military, whose funeral he was due to attend.
There will be plenty more Islamist Iranian and their lap puppy funerals to attend thanks to the US and Israel with little effective response from Iran. And obviously NO support for Iran from Russia and China who you touted as Iran’s great protectors.
There were also plenty of christian burials to attend to thanks to the US. You murderer of christians will one day have to answer on judgement day.. Plenty sure of that fake xtian..
If the parliament does grow a pair & vote to evict US even if they refuse it will drop the facade that US is in Iraq as a guest to fight Isis. As an occupation force the US will have have problems spinning any kind of justification for its presence. An insurgency war could ensue but US has limited troop numbers in the country to control it especially if most of the public unite against them.
Well, there are a lot of Sunni and Kurds who don’t much like the Shi’a Iranian presence. Heck, there are lots of Iraqi Shi’a who don’t like it also.
Heres a novel idea – why dont both Iran & US get out & leave Iraq to rebuild.
I like that better than a war as long as Iran also stops its moves towards nukes and their delivery systems.
Since when has Iran attempted to build nukes when they only enrich to 3% for electricity and not the 95-98% required for a bomb. All International inspectors who inspect Iran all the time have repeatedly said that Iran IS NOT attempting to make a bomb. The only ones who make that story up are Netanboobo’s idiot followers and American neo- cons who want a war.
..and that’s why US goes after Iran and not North Korea.
My Top 5 target which Iran can retaliate: 1º US Embassy in Israel 2º US Embassy green zone Iraq 3º US base of Juffair in Bahrein 4º US base of Al Tanf in Syria 5º US base of Al Taj in Iraq
Yeah sure. LOL. he cowardly mullahs will probably shot few Katyushas near an American base in Iraq and call it the day.
US top targets: Iranian air defenses Iranian Airforce Iranian Nuke facilities Iranian Islamist leadership Oh, and then Israel joins in and there’s not much left of Iran. Do you have any other silly ideas?
Yeah surely like in Syria…hundred and hundred of cruise missile launched by USA and Israel along these years…and no significant damage….Iran have better air defense vs cruise missile than Syria…
One missile from Iran to Israel, and they will see what Jericho III looks like.
Followed by a lot more, I would bet.
You got it right.
But really, I do hope the Murdering Mullahs of Islamist Iran continue as good Christians and turn the other cheek as they have after all the Israeli attacks on them and theirs in Syria.
Well Jake, there is a reason they haven’t responded against us from Syria and they know why. The last time was in November 2019, this is what happened: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/20/world/middleeast/israel-syria-iran-strikes.html
Yep, I know and sure know their catatonic behavior in Syria is not out of the goodness of their hearts.
With regards Syria, must admit I like what the MSM never mention, including this brilliant video.
East Ghouta, Syria. Report of Chinese analysts examined by Russian leading Middle East expert 1 year ago.. . https://vimeo.com/263728681
Don’t believe You Tube cover this video. Not sure why not haha?
Nothing about Iran in this BS propaganda piece. That fat arrogant Putz could as well be quoting the analysis from Lichtenstein. But I like the way he throws in the 200 Americans killed, which never happened, as the usual Kremlin projection away from the 200 Russian volunteers who actually were blown away when they threatened an American base. But again, what does this have to do with Israel continuously blowing away Islamist Iranians with impunity in Syria? Oh, and where is the great brotherly support for Iran from Russia that you touted about?
Does Israel have a war with Russia in it’s sights now, as well as war with all Arab nations, of course using the US military as its enforcer?
Will have to watch later. Dang.
Slow time and seriously interesting. Take care and have a wonderful New Year.
S300 will take care of that.
Are you sure? well, if they are brave enough to find out then be my guest.
Lets hope good sense prevails & theres no need to find out.
Well, the Iranians have shown that good sense in Syria after being repeatedly attacked by Israel there. But all that good sense means is they are not suicidal and don’t yet want to collect their Darwin Award.
Iran launched 55 rockets in retaliation for T-2 base….since that Israel have been attacked warehouse and no vs IRGC troops!
When was this? Link please. Anyway, no attack on Israel after Israel repeatedly blows away Islamist Iranians in Syria with impunity. Guess the US will be doing more of this as well in Iraq. We’ll see what the Iranians do besides their usual catatonia. Well, better being stiff and alive than a dead stiff, I guess.
Do they feel lucky?
As Clint would say.
Jericho is a ballistic missile…easy to intercept and destroy by S-300PMU
If it came to that, do you think it will be just one ICBM? it’s not something they want to find out.
Iran will smash Israel ( a little territory and coward population) in the moment that Israel was ready to launch its Jerichos….
Time will tell, right?
While the Islamist Iranians spout, the US just knocked off more Iranian allies in Iraq. Iran is in deep doo doo. It must respond but if it does anything major, there will no longer be an Iran. Oh, and first on the chopping block will be Iran’s nuke facilities and leadership, after all its air defenses and Airforce are eliminated.
Irans government know they win simply by surviving to frustrate US plans in ME, absorbing these strikes by US on its allies is small compared to a major war
You assume they will be rational. But pride comes before a fall.
Darling, you keep muddling up the US with Iran, but, why?
I believe in relative probabilities and magnitude. The probability of Islamist Iran taking a great and fatal fall is near infinitely greater for them than the US. No matter how much I wish Trump would fall.
Riddle me this, but, who support, funds and trains one branch of the Islamist factor, over in the Middle East?
Why does Israel provide health care, for the members of ISIS/Daesh/Al Qaeda/White Helmets, when they get themselves into trouble?
Why does the same ISIS/Daesh/Al Qaeda/White Helmets or whatever they call themselves today, never ever attack any interests that concern Israel or Saudi come to that?
How come secular nations, over in the Middle East, especially those with no Rothschild Central Banks or Rothschild Debt, full of natural resources are the first point of call, for the Western funded, trained, and supported Islamic Extremists?
Remind me, which are the 12 nations, besides the EU, who fund, support and train the White Helmets/ISIS/Al Qaeda/Daesh, or whatever they call themselves today?
You never miss a chance to make irrelevant anti-Semitic along with tinfoil hat claims. Matters not. Your Islamist Iranian buddies are in deep doo doo.
What have I said that is anti-semetic?
Especially when there is so little semetic DNA over in Israel, is there not?
Remember, the Khazarians and AshkeNAZIs, just like the Kurds, originate from Nomadic Turkic Tribes, who went on to adopt Christianity, Islam and Judea, whilst learning Hebrew.
Who actually created Israel? Not forgetting, who was behind the step change over in Saudi, around the same time?
When did King Abdulaziz Al-Saud establish the modern Kingdom of Saudi Arabia? Was it not back in 1932? When did Saudi decide they would trade oil using the $US? When did the US turn their backs on using gold to back their currency and replace it with oil? When was the private Fed Reserve, over in the US first launched?
Iran, does not have a central bank or any debt to those that control the Fed Reserve, now do they?
Remember the Balfour Document, back in 1917, when they were agreeing to form the nation of Israel? Remember 1947 when the foundations of Israel were laid and what else was going on in 1947? What else was happening back in 1917, besides the Bolsheviks overthrowing the Russian Empire?
Allan Dulles, Reinhard Gehlen and Eric Browder, grandfather of Bill, who were deciding just what the first CIA exercise would be. Remember, the exercise to rescue the Bolshevik and Nazi elite, following the end of WWII – ‘Operation Paperclip’? Weren’t the Bush family also heavily involved in Operation Paperclip and the formation of the CIA and what faith did the Bush family follow? Same with Blair, who would do anything for that crowd. Didn’t the Pope Christen Blair, not some Rabbi, when he left 10 Downing Street?
Riddle me this, why do the Khazarians inflict so much damage and harm to the territory and people of Palestine, when the majority of those people carry semetic DNA, unlike those from Israel? Why are the true anti-semetics, including from back in the 40s?
Of course you are anti-Semitic/anti-Jew. I believe you’re aware that Judaism is not a race but, rather, a culture which anyone can belong.
Judaism is a religion, and the founders of the State of Israel weren’t religious Jews. In fact, they were atheists.
Soros, the Hungarian born of Khazarian faith, who brags that he is an atheist. The same, weird creature, who found the best times of his life, was when he watched his friends, peers, neighbours and community board the death trains and then went round to loot their homes.
George Soros – 60 Minutes – 20 December 1998
Not unlike Islam, Christianity or Hinduism, Judaism is a religious-based culture.
Although I believe you to be wholly mislead, I couldn’t possibly care any less if the founders of Israel were atheists.
Are you serious?
Is the biblical jewish faith a culture or a faith, where anybody can hang out?
The Khazarians, that squeal the loudest, are they not the most anti-semetic tribe on the planet?
How many millions, including those from the biblical Jewish fath, have been slaughtered courtesy of the actions of the Khazarians and AshkeNAZIs?
The Khazarian, AshkeNAZI and Kurds, originated from nomadic Turkic Tribes, who adopted Judea, Christianity and Islam, whilst learning Hebrew.
I equate Soros, Bibi and Kolomoisky, in exactly the same way as I equate Common Purpose members Brown, Blair, Major, Cameron (and what faiths do they follow)? Together with Chenie, McCain, Biden, Clinton, Obama and the Bush tribe. Now please enlighten me, as to what faiths the non-Khazarians that I have mentioned follow?
3 Corporations run the world and do not forget, Judea was an outpost of the Roman Empire, back when Herod was running things.
King David, the father of Solomon, is nought to do with the Khazarian Star of David now is he? In fact, doesn’t the Khazarian Star Of David, have more links to Siberia than Palestine?
Of course I’m serious. Anyone can be Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Jewish, etc..These are religious faiths with distinct cultures. That you capitalize NAZI in Ashkenazi is, of course, precisely what makes you wholly anti-Jewsish/anti-Semitic.
Another clear sign of your petulant bigotry is found in the fact that you’re not here arguing that Shi’ite and/or Sunni are not Muslim and you’re not here arguing that Protestants and/or Catholics are not Christian. Yet you profess to dictate who can or cannot be Jewish.
You’re a virulent anti-Semite, AM.
Cuz Ya‘aqōv is a Jewish Troll…..and as always , its up to Uncle Shmu’el to do the Jew’s dirty work
Iranians are not proud, they are kind and rational people fighting for justice and resisting the evil, pro-ISIS, pro-Alqaeda satanic US bully and its wicked allies! China, Russia and other nations should stand with Iran or they will be next.
LOL…guess you don’t know many Iranians. And if the Murdering Mullahs act too much on their pride, there will likely be way fewer Iranians to know. And yep, where is all the support for Iran from Russia and China that folk like you have been touting…the great solidarity?
I know Iranians, they are cultured, kind and smart people, totally different from Arabs, (like your head-chopping Saudis allies) and Pakis etc. Tell me, is it by chance that Iran has more Jews than the rest of the Islamic world combined? Watch the video clip below:
Yes, and the Israeli’s have been trying to get the historic Jews from Iran to emigrate to Israel. Few Iranian Jews have wanted to live in Israel :) They are happy in Iran.
I refuse to see the video, because I have the right to my opinion.
and the juice will keep on emptying.. its a 2 way street once the laws of the jungle rules..
Russia has condemned the murders in an official comment.
Iranians are kind and rational people, as are Americans. As for each respective government I fail to see how one is more evil (or kind) than the other.
Do you believe the Uighurs look on the Chinese government and the Chechens the Russian government as you do?
US government supported, armed, trained and funded jihadist terrorists in Afghanistan, Chechnya, Bosnia, Kosovo, Libya, Yemen, China and Syria. In Kosovo, US and its Nato puppets bombed the Christian Serbs in support of KLA jihadists killing thousands and the US and Western-backed KLA jihadists then destroyed hundreds of Serbian churches and monasteries! Watch the clip below:
Do you believe the Uighurs look on the Chinese government and the Chechens the Russian government as you do?
Majority of the Uighurs and Chechnyans look on to their respective governments in a normal way and wish to be productive citizens in their countries but there are minority of Uighurs and Chechnyan jihadists that wish to terrorize others in their regions and bring them under an ISIS-like control and Russia and Chinese states have the right to prevent such terrorists to take root in those regions. At the moment there are thousands of Uighurs jihadists fighting in Syria and the US wishes to relocate them to China in order to terrorize the Chinese. US always tries to use terrorists to further its destructive imperialistic geopolitical agenda. U$A is basically a mafia state!
It saddens me greatly that you seem unaware of the forced “reeducation camps” holding between 1-3 million Uighurs, under the most horrific conditions, in China or that Ramzan Kadyrov in Chechnya is, himself, a brutal Muslim fanatic and organized crime figure.
Out of sight out of mind, unfortunately.
China has the right to defend itself against fanatical jihadist muslims.
The problem arises when any expression of Islam in Xinjiang is considered extremist/fanatical – you’re likely unaware that to posses a bible or a Koran in China is strictly punishable by imprisonment.
Some quick math. From a population of roughly 10 million Muslims in Xinjiang (a centuries-old Muslim region) no family has remained untouched by these forced “reeducation” camps.
Imagine a city not unlike Moscow and it’s 11 million population of mostly Christian men, woman and children and finding upwards of 1-3 million “fanatics” and shipping them off to be reeducated with no family permitted to know where they are or what their loved ones condition is and, if you would, try and answer my question again.
Do you believe the Uighur community look on the Chinese government as you do?
You have to understand that the Salafi jihadists in Xinjiang are not different from ISIS and Al-Qaeda and would like to impose an Islamic rule in Xinjiang through violent jihad and terrorism. Again, the Chinese have the right to defend itself from such dangerous jihadists.
I do understand and we agree on Salafist jihadists. Yet I fear your missing the overall context as a means to hold China up to a level which isn’t remotely realistic. It is in fact illegal to posses a bible or Koran in China. Is this truly the example of government you want standing up to your enemies?
The probability of finding more than 30-50 thousand fanatics, of any belief, from a population of 10 million is highly unlikely. 1-3 million is a statistical improbability that stretches any imagination after 5 minutes. I fear you haven’t fully thought this through.
None of this touches back to the horror of Ramzan Kadyrov. Is Kadyrov the type pf leader you want supported by Moscow, fighting against your perceived enemies?
There are around 70-100 million Christians in China and growing and there is some persecution against Christians in China, especially those that are suspected to have some connections with and or are infiltrated by the CIA/US/West or those that criticize the government openly. As I said, above there are thousands of Xinjiang extremists in Syria and tens of thousand in China and if the Chinese does not curb their growth they will turn Xinjiang into an ISIS hellhole and the Chinese are tough and won’t allow that. The serious problem now is the fact that the US/Israel/West/Nato are backing jihadist Salafi terrorists around the globe and you sound to be more concerned of the rights of those Salafi jihadists than their victims. For instance, 1.8 million Christians in Iraq before the US invasion and today less than fifty thousand remains but instead you seem to be saddened the Salafi jihadist terrorists in Xinjiang. What is your agenda?
Interesting. I specifically argue how it’s statistically impossible to find 1-3 million Salafist extremists in Xinjiang, China but, yet, you write of my being saddened over the 1-3 million Salafist extremists in Xinjiang, China.
My agenda, you ask? Honest discourse. I’ll move on to discuss current events with someone who seeks the same.
How do you see Israel evacuating hundreds of encircled Syrian Al-Qaeda “White Helmets?
Why does Israel supports Al-Qaeda terrorists that are killing Christians and other minorities in Syria?
America won and they lost!
Damn, you may not be an Igor. Maybe just an Adolf?
buckley would not say that, having first hard experience on retaliation on your actions..
“General Gholamali Abuhamzeh, the commander of the Guards in the southern province of Kerman, raised the prospect of possible attacks on ships in the Gulf. The Strait of Hormuz is a vital point for the West and a large number of American destroyers and warships cross there … vital American targets in the region have been identified by Iran since long time ago … some 35 U.S. targets in the region as well as Tel Aviv are within our reach,” he said.
Someone tell that Iranian general that if they or their proxies attack Tel Aviv, Israel will attack Tehran directly. He thinks we are Saudi Arabia, I hope he is stupid enough to do it.
And Israel will also join the US in eliminating all Iran’s nuke facilities as well as much of its Islamist leadership, I would bet.
For sure Jake, we stand with the U.S in the Middle East against Iranian aggression. If they ask us to help, we will.
LOL…I think you will help even without being asked.
Yeah well, it’s better if it’s official you know :) Plus, add the fact that any Iranian base in Lebanon, Syria and Iraq will be destroyed if they do something like that.
US and its evil pro-Al-Qaeda allies should think twice before the stumble the world into WW3. Syria which is part of the axis of resistance has thousands of Russian soldiers and advisers and any war in this region will not be confined to Iran or Iraq alone. It will immediately spread into the region and beyond and there will be very serious unintended consequences that can trigger it into a global war very quickly which, in turn can easily culminate into nuclear exchange!
I agree on that, but now it’s up to the Iranians. Let’s see what they do.
Make no mistake, If the Iraqi puppet government refuses to evict the US occupiers tomorrow, Iran will respond militarily to the assassination of its leaders and also there will be a civil war in Iraq.
This comment is extremely disingenuous. Pres. Trump has been in Israel’s pocket since before he was elected, and this whole terrorist attack on Gen. Soleimani and Gen. al-Muhandis was probably Israel’s idea.
Yea but Iran will still survive, israel will not..
I agree with everything you’ve written but for hoping Iran is dumb enough to attack Israel. While Israel will likely come out on top, no one will “win”.
I’d like to see the “intelligence” the Neo-cons claim to have Of course, we’ll never see it, we’re just supposed to take their word that they’re telling the truth, when they’re already proven liars.
aXCCORDING TO THE MAP iRAN IS ALSO ONLY ONE OF THE TERRORSIT COUNTIRES.
Someone on this forum calls Iran paper tiger. Here is exactly what he/she said: “Iran’s mullahs regime is a paper tiger. A global power of threats and hot air. There will be no significant response because the Iranians are just too scared”
I beg to differ on this. Iran’s power lies in their missiles, not proxy forces as the MSM constantly repeats. There is clearly a dedicated campaign by the Main Stream Media to underestimate Iran’s true capabilities. This campaign is aimed at building public support in America for war on Iran. That is because Americans are intolerant of casualties and won’t support a war against Iran if they knew its true capabilities.
American leaders and their Israeli and European fellows know this, but they figured a war with Iran will happen because Iran’s lifetime goal is to evict the Americans and at at least weaken Israel throughout the middle east and also topple America’s puppets in the region (G.C.C). No amount of threat and negotiations can persuade Iranians against this determined goal – the only option is to topple the regime in Tehran.
Their first option for regime change was to instigate another revolution. They tried this at least twice – in 2009 and 2019. The problem is, the Iranian government is very vigilant and has a strong control over the country. The only remaining option is war. Negotiations can only solve the nuclear issue while simultaneously giving Iran a lot of cash to build its conventional military and proxies which the US and its allies must one day face in battle. That is why trump revoked the deal.
They really want this war with Iran, but they need a good reason to start it because Americans will protest when body bags start piling up, and that will worsen the situation. They need a big justification that will convince Americans to support the war despite the cost in lives and treasure.
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The problem for America and its allies is that they face an enemy (Iran) that is getting stronger by the day – An enemy they cannot reconcile with. They were and are in a state of confusion because they desperately want a war but can’t find a justification for it. They were in this state of hesitation and confusion in 2012 when they realized Iran was just two months from a nuclear bomb. Something had to be done to stop the bomb. A military strike would not stop it because the breakout time was too short. If they could only trick Iran into rolling back the nuclear program in exchange of some reward (short term of course), they will have more time to stop it militarily. Hence, the biggest con Iran fell for: JCPOA. Obama’s biggest con.
All the criticism by Israeli and Arab leaders were just a show. Iran fell for this grand deception and I am sure they have realized it now. I read a comment by an Iranian top nuclear official where he accused Europe of being a part of an American plot to keep Iran in the deal while maintaining sanctions. This accusation was made two days ago.
Iran still remains in this deal because it wants to reap the greatest reward the deal promised despite realizing it has been a deception all along. Iran wants the UN arms embargo lifted in October 2020. Trump isn’t going to let that happen even if it means starting a war. Iran is now several months or a year from the bomb. A better time to strike militarily.
The Iranians have been gradually reducing their nuclear commitments under the deceptive deal. Their last step on November 4th will have a great impact on the breakout time if maintained for long. They were set to announce further reductions this week which is expected to be more drastic than previous steps. Then America killed Qasim Soleimani in a warning that the US will strike Iran directly if they took that step. Iran has not made an announcement regarding nuclear reductions yet though I think they were supposed to do so on 4th January 2020. This should not be mistaken for cowardice.
What justification did Trump give for the murder of Soleimani? That Iran instigated an attack on the US embassy in Iraq. An attack that did not kill anyone. Protesters only caused little material damage to the embassy. the total cost of this damage will not exceed say $30 million. This is significantly lower than the cost of the drone ($130M) which Iran downed months ago. Yet Trump killed a top general and other soldiers for it. Trump threatened Iran on twitter for for any damages to American assets in the embassy.
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Some described the American attack as cowardly. Well, it isn’t. It was a warning that the US is serious about starting a war if Iran crossed the nuclear red line. But this attack has put the US at a disadvantage if a war were to start. The US no longer has the element of surprise. Iran is fully alert now. They will not avenge Soleimani’s death until they have fully prepared the country for war. They just rose the reg flag in Iran, signaling a preparation for war.
So what will this war look like?
When things spiral out of control and the Americans and Iranian forces start exchanging fire directly, a lot of people will die and many regimes will collapse.
Iran has thousands of missiles that can go as far as Diego Garcia. The US has thousands of troops withing a 2000 km range of Iranian borders. All these troops and US facilities can be targeted and destroyed in multiple precision strikes using drones and missiles. America’s puppet regimes will also be targeted, and being largely unpopular at home, these regimes will collapse when their defenses and infrastructure are degraded or totally destroyed.
The US will launch devastating missile and air attacks against Iranian military and civilian targets, but Iran’s conventional military capabilities will not be destroyed because those missiles are burred deep underground in secret places and scattered all over the country. Iran’s air defenses will cause severe loses on US planes, but the US will likely gain air supremacy within a day or so.
Iran continues to pound US forces with precision missiles and drones as US fighter jest try to locate and destroy missile launchers. Here the US will have serious problems as it will have to use mainly the F-22, F35 and other bombers whose range will not allow them to fight Iran from afar except for the B series bombers. If the launch pads for these bombers (carriers and airfields) are destroyed, it will cripple air operations. Air Force launchpads will be the first targets for Iran. The US will insert special forces after achieving air dominance to help with locating and neutralizing these Iranian missile bases.
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But how will America continue to patrol Iran’s airspace when America’s carriers and airfields in the middle east are severely damage. Unless the US manages to sustain air operations under this challenging condition, it will lose the war big time. And truly, I can’t see how the US will sustain air operations when the logistics for that lay in ruins.
The only American airbase that might escape destruction are those in Diego Garcia since Iranian missiles that can reach that Island might not be guided ones. But even if Diego Garcia remains intact, the only planes that can fly from that range to attack Iran are the B2, B52, bombers. And these planes cannot insert America’s special forces in Iran. In fact, they will face air defenses that survive America’s initial onslaught.
Bottom line: If Iran can effectively neutralize air bases and carriers (they don’t have to sink them, just bomb the flight decks and control towers), then America is truly fucked. And from all indications, the Iranians have this capability.
Setting aside media opinions would you be able to share hard evidence that the protests in Iran in both 2009 and 2019 were instigated from outside Iran?
An interesting fact regarding those puppets of The U.S.. Without exception the G.C.C. nations vote against U.S. interests at the U.N. more than 60% of the time, in the case of Saudi Arabia that figure rises to almost 78%.
Block the strait – sink one of the yanky aircraft rust buckets, Crash the world economy then see what happens to the Yanky Fuckers
One is sometimes forced to wonder what a global financial crash would look like. What do you think? 300-800 million of the poorest on the planet would die of starvation in the first five (5) years? Maybe upwards of 1 billion due to illness?
In my mind no cause is worth the price.
Green clima change?
Once is Israelis and americans are reduced to sand beggers the rest of us can get on and live our lives. May be they die first/
May be the Israelis will just east each other like dogs
Thanks. US is the biggest oil exporters. Everybody on the planet will need US oil to our prices……….LOL. Thanks Duc. You are our man Duc.
US has no idea what the fuck it is dealing with lmao
Since Iran has hauled up the red flag, they will definitely retaliate. The US will continue to use the babboon to try to instigate shit immediately, but Iran is smarter than that. Iran will bide it’s time and pick a suitable target (or two), place and time. Hopefully Esper or Pompass will be in the area sometime soon. Doubtful the Iranians will do anything over the top, so to speak. They will not seek to escalate the situation, but they will have their pound of Zionist flesh, of that I have no doubt. As others have said, their credibility is on the line as well. I find it interesting that there are those that still cannot comprehend Trump, as if Trump is an actual entity and not a sock puppet. Trump (or his re-election) is of no consequence, although he does play his part to the hilt (the underdog fighting for the American way), as there are plenty out there still clinging to this fairy tale. Also notice Pense’s statement that Soleimani was part of 9/11 and was involved with the patsy Saudis that were blamed. Quite reminiscent of pre GWII and Rummys WMDs in Iraq, no? BTW, there is the ‘tradition’ rarely violated that admins in the US do not change in times of war. The US will continue to push Iran to do something they think they can spin into ‘justifiable cause’ for more attacks (gulf ‘security’ card?). I believe Iran will go for tit for tat…which is more difficult for the US to use as leverage. It is no secret that Israel has been actively trying to assassinate Soleimani for some time, with a recent attempt in Iran. That the US has performed this task (after the recent US/Israeli decision to start doing assassinations ‘again’) for the Israelis should come as no surprise. The biggie is whether Iraq will demand the US leave or not. Since the US has been there for 16 years, you can bet they own every Iraqi that is corruptible…or they have Epstein style dirt on them. Do the Shia factions have the votes to get this done? More of a question is, do they have the will? If they do vote the US out and the US refuses to leave, this will be problematic at home, even for the liar in chief. Worse will be the body bags from ambushes. Anyone that thinks this or it’s repercussions would doom Trump have forgotten Beirut and Reagan…and that Trump, like Reagan, is saving the free world.