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Putin And Erdogan Sign Agreement On Idlib. What Now?

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Putin And Erdogan Sign Agreement On Idlib. What Now?

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On March 5th, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Russian President Vladimir Putin met in Moscow to discuss the situation in Idlib, Syria.

Prior to the meeting, the two leaders made the following statements:

Vladimir Putin:

“Good afternoon, Mr President.

Thank you for coming to Russia. As usual, we have things to discuss. The situation in the Idlib zone in Syria has deteriorated so much that we need to have a direct and personal discussion.

First of all, I would like to express our sincere condolences over the death of your military personnel in Syria. Loss of life is always a big tragedy.

Regrettably, as I have told you by telephone, nobody, including the Syrian military, was aware of your troops’ location. At the same time, there were casualties among Syrian servicemen as well. The Syrian army reported major losses.

Therefore, we need to discuss everything and analyse the current developments so that, first, this does not happen again and, second, that this does not damage Russian-Turkish relations, which I know that you value as well.

As you requested, we are ready to begin our talks one-on-one, and then our colleagues, who are with us in this room, will join us, if necessary.

Once again, welcome to Moscow.”

Recep Tayyip Erdogan:

“Yes, Mr President, I would like to also thank you for your welcome.

As you know, we were going to hold this meeting in Turkey but due to your ongoing work on constitutional amendments, we decided to accept your invitation and come here. Certainly, this meeting on Idlib talks is very important.

The situation in Idlib is indeed very tense. I know that the entire world is watching us today and I think that the action and decisions we take today will definitely have a mitigating effect.

This is a time when the relations between our countries have indeed reached a peak. Of course, this concerns the defence industry, trade and other areas; they continue developing.

We believe and say that we need to make progress in this area. In fact, this is our biggest task, to move forward and develop our relations. I believe we will succeed.

Once again, I would like to thank you for your welcome.”

Erdogan previously said he had asked Putin to “step aside” in Syria and allow him to deal with Damascus “face to face”, while Syrian President Bashar Assad stated in an interview just one day before the Putin-Erdogan meeting that the conflict between the Turkish people and the Syrian people is “illogical”.

Around the same time that the meeting was taking place, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo reiterated Turkey’s right to self-defense in connection with the situation in Idlib, during a press briefing.

“We are firmly convinced that our NATO partner, Turkey, has every right to defend itself against the risks created in Syria by Assad, Russians and Iranians,” said Pompeo, answering a question about how he assesses “the partnership between Russia and Turkey.”

He recalled that a few days ago, US President Donald Trump held talks with Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan. The US Secretary of State did not comment on the ongoing negotiations between the leaders of Turkey and Russia in Moscow.

“The Turkish government has requested a number of things, we are evaluating all these requests. Our team (the US State Department) together with the Department of Defense team are deciding how best to reduce violence and a larger world there and stop the ongoing large-scale humanitarian crisis,” said Pompeo.

The two leaders spoke tete-a-tete for approximately 3 hours, and then they were joined by their respective delegations. The entire negotiation ended after 5 hours 40 minutes.

The briefing, following the negotiations can be seen here:

Erdogan Invited Putin to Visit Turkey to Celebrate Anniversary of Bilateral Relations. Putin, on his part said that Russia, Turkey agreed on common document on settlement in Syria.

Russian President Vladimir Putin announced that he has negotiated an agreement to resolve the ongoing tensions in Idlib province with his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan. The two countries have agreed following “uneasy, but productive” talks that they should not reduce their efforts in the fight against terrorism.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan stated that his country will be sending additional forces to Idlib province under a new agreement with Russia, but that the status of Turkey’s Operation Spring Shield will be “changed”. Erdogan added that starting at midnight between 5 and 6 March a ceasefire regime will be established in Idlib for both Turkish and Syrian forces. At the same time, the Turkish president said that the army reserves the right to respond to any actions of the Syrian forces.

It includes the following items:

  1. The cessation of all hostilities along the existing line of contact from midnight on March 6th;
  2. Russia and Turkey create a six-kilometer-long security corridor north and south of the M-4 highway in Syria;
  3. Russia and Turkey agreed to begin joint patrols along the M-4 highway in Syria on March 15th.

“It is inevitable to establish a new status in Idlib after the sad events of the regime’s aggression targeting our soldiers,” President Erdogan said.

“The spirit of cooperation between us and Russia has made an unprecedented contribution to international efforts to end the conflict in Syria,” President Erdogan explained.

The entire document is to be published in English, Russian and Turkish “soon,” when more details will follow. It is showing, however, that a direct military intervention by Turkey is unlikely to work, and Erdogan went to the negotiating table.

The following map shows the gains and setbacks of Turkish forces and the “moderate opposition” have made since Turkish operation Spring Shield began.

Putin And Erdogan Sign Agreement On Idlib. What Now?

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The new Turkish-Russian agreements have several important implications for the situation in Greater Idlib:

  • Turkey declared that it will keep forces in the region (It cannot withdraw them because this will mean a total surrender and lead to a full-scale political crisis in Turkey itself), but officially accepted all the gains made by the Syrian Army since September 2018 (Sochi agreements). Earlier, the top Turkish leadership declared that the goal of the Turkish military operation in Idlib is to push the Syrian Army back from all this area.
  • The Syrian Army kept control of the M5 highway and significantly improved its military position in the region.
  • The terrorists, Hayat Tahrir al-Sham and other al-Qaeda groups, still remian outside the framework of the ceasefire deal and legal target in the framework of it.
  • The agreed buffer zone (M4) is located inside the militant-held area. It can be created and joint patrols can be launched only if radical militants (all militants that control the area) are removed from there. It’s hard to imagine how Russian Military Police vehicles can be deployed there safely in any another case. Therefore, if militants are not removed, this will create conditions f0r another operation in the area fully in the framework of the agreement signed by Turkey.
  • Turkey publicly accepted that it is not capable to defeat the Syrian Army without suffering unacceptable losses. So, Damascus and its allies officially won in this stage of the conflict.
  • Both sides declared that they support a political solution of the conflict. However, the March 5 deal and another ceasefire are only a half measure to achieve this goal. A political solution is not possible as long as terrorist groups (backed by Turkey) present in the area. This creates conditions for further tensions and escalations.

On January 14, 2020, SF released the following video analysis on the Idlib ‘ceasefire efforts’ and their results for the anti-terrorism fight in Greater Idlib. It still remains useful to explain the situation in general:

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  • Adi

    Turkey just annexed big part of Syria.Crazy shit!Lol

    • yep

      You shouldn’t be having rough sex only with you goats and sheep !
      They are live beings also and they need hugs and kisses too !
      Show them all your love you have for them !
      Go out on the street and shout: I LOVE MY GOAT !!!
      Let whole world to know !

    • Legis Legis Juscius

      no it isnt, because after last ceasfire, syrians didnt had the control over m5 and saraqib, now syrians took a lot of new terirorys, i think fighting will begin in 1 or 2 months again

    • The Saint

      That’s what they thought after Sochi..

  • Ishyrion Av

    Erdogan came asking a full SAA retreat and he obtained just a pause (which is necessary for SAA also), and in exchange he must free the M4 highway and stop supporting the “terrorist groups” as they are designated by UNSC.
    If you saw his face, you saw a defeated man face.

    • Adi

      You do realize Idlib is souveren territory of Syria and that Erdogan got to keep his control and army there and even retaliate with it,and Russia is to guarantee that?

      • Horace Lacondeta

        Erdogan just got a delay before being wiped out. What happened in the past month will happen again in a near future.

        • geopolitica

          of course erdogan will not be able to liberate M4 in all case he lose nobody noticed but he have to said is for syria full soverinty and he sign on this international agrement so in 10 days when M4 will be still closed russi will show the paper to turkish asshole anyway this is giving time for syrian army to consolidate gain and made disapear the turkish idea of the old adana agreement frontier …

      • Хасен Жасем Халфет

        Eh no, youunderstood it wrong baby. they are to retreat 6km north of the M 4 highway So they lost all the area in black (and rebels will have to leave the area incircled so they do not get trapped between Russians patrolling M4 and SAA). So erdogan who has been vowing to kick SAA out of the Idlib region will have even less territory then when he started in both idlib and Aleppo. Also this agreement is temporary. until a further solution to the terrorists is found per the sochi agreement or the Operation to cleanse the territory from terrorists will resume as said Lavrov and Putin Syrian Government has the right to defeat terrorism on its land and Russian will help them do it.

        For now Syria Arab Army lost many people but liberated vast lands. and Turkey lost a lot of people equipment and gained nothing and Erdogan was proven a liar and impotent once again.
        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2505cb60f94fa11af3c97e7c113cc86e47f6c4d35e7125a517e5240a05d9ae5e.png

        • Adi

          New “Olive Branch” zone. :) No,i got it very right.If you think that some foreign power giving some other foreign power right to drive along some road in your country is some kind of win for you,then you need a big hug. :)

          • Хасен Жасем Халфет

            US and Russia mutually have monitoring flights over each other’s airs … Russian also flies over European countries

    • Mack Dane

      Assad and SAA are insects, almost irrelevant to the balance of power. Probably were barely mentioned (if at all).

      • Hyper19

        Yeah, ASSad stayed in Damascus like the vassal bitch he is.

        • geopolitica

          haha is smoking hookah in qassium mountain and sleep in a nice palace and you?

        • Xoli Xoli

          Are you on Erdogan drugs.

    • gustavo

      I did not see a defeated face but hurt face, and that is really danger. This animal can do something very danger as a revenge.

      • Tudor Miron

        All his possible moves are well calculated. He’s in a zugzwang situation. He was given a rope to save his ugly face (a little bit) but no more than that. Giving up M4 must have been very painful for this cockroach.

      • Ishyrion Av

        He did sign, isn’t he? This meeting could have ended with a statement that more negotiations are needed.
        It means this is the best he could get and he really needed.
        Of course the peace won’t last, but now we can see the real balance of forces.
        And, of course, like Tudor Miron said, Putin gave him a chance to save his face. I bet he won’t use the chance.

  • yep

    Ceasefire Begins At 00:01 March 6

    And breach of cease fire and new conflict begins by HTS attack At 00:02 March 6

    • Mack Dane

      It will hold. Putin will not have the ceasefire jeopardized after he apologized and successfully begged Sultan Erdogan for forgiveness.

      • Horace Lacondeta

        Yes, in your parallel universe where Putin flew to Ankara asking for mercy for his soldiers hehe

      • Tudor Miron

        Creature, what kind of joy is that – stating idiotic claims in the open? Why do you enjoy people thinking that you’re an idiot?

        • FlorianGeyer

          Because Mack Dane is a complete idiot, Tudor. :)

      • Хасен Жасем Халфет

        Apologized and begged ? delusional people. Erdogan said he will kick SAA out from idlib he did not. SAA won on the land and Putin won on the table. Erdogan realized nothing from what he promised. SAA realized most. Putin realized all. and Do not forget it is Erdo who went to Moscow to beg not the opposite. Russia and Syria were comfortable on the Land with what they achieved. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/80c53a762d3e23569e6933b9ba72dada1cadf471cd5457aea050cab30acfe2df.png

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1bfd6cf25203c502f7a5ef6e94e1263efe08f0210eaaf4a41055ccb1756f2097.png

      • Mike

        Mac crap types shit yet again.

      • John Brown

        They explain Putins strategy well here. It works, so stop complaining about victory. It makes you look like a moron or a zio troll. I think you are a zio troll.

  • Legis Legis Juscius

    The picture looks awesome :)

  • Terence Silvestre Jr.

    I will trust Putin, sure that he knows very well what he is doing by agreeing with an evil being, as distrustful and treacherous as Erdogan, who, as always, will only use that ceasefire to resupply his terrorists and continue to arm them to the tooth .
    And once the Turkish puppets are in condition, we will see another powerful attempt to retake all the strategic territory lost so far, taking SAA by surprise, in full ceasefire.
    But I’m sure Russia will be ready and waiting for them too.

    • Legis Legis Juscius

      Syrians gained more teritory, then it had before sochi agreement, includin all m5 higway, which will help syrian armys logistics and economy

      • Adi

        At what cost? And Turks get to keep their troops there.Its an de-facto annexation. ;)

        • Wegan

          Are you talking about real cost or Turkish-propaganda cost?
          These are two different things.

          • Adi

            Ok,congrats on a new “Olive Branch” area of Syria :)

          • Wegan

            I don’t think the ceasefire will hold for long.
            Why are you so adamant on keeping the terrorists in Idlib.
            If you are Turkish and Muslim. Wouldn’t you want your brothers in Syria to live in peace and develop harmoniously?
            Having a good neighbourly relation will make trade increase. Economic development will make you and your neighbours prosper.
            What is this mentality where Muslims keep killing each other and get weaker and weaker by the day?

        • Valery Grigoryev

          The wheels of fate spin slowly…

          • FlorianGeyer

            Just like the Wheels of the Taxman :)

        • Wayne Nicholson

          “At what cost?”

          The lives of Syrian, Russian and Iranian soldiers who are in Syria to fight jihadists not the Turkish army and certainly not NATO. Plus the cost of fuel and munitions used to kill Turks that can be spent on rebuilding Syria instead of fighting Turks.

          Putin has intelligence that none of us keyboard warriors have access to. He know the state of Syrian forces, the levels of fuel and ammo they have and the strength and level of exhaustion they are experiencing. he also know the moral of the Syrian people, the levels of food and comfort they are enduring and Syria’s bank balance.

          All these factors are important to any negotiation. Anything that can be resolved by talking instead of shooting helps Syria in the long run.

          “And Turks get to keep their troops there.Its an de-facto annexation.”

          So you’ve read the document then ….?

          • Adi

            No,to be honest.But from what media reports its a point of agreement.Troops stay+retailiation right.

          • Adi
          • Wayne Nicholson

            Throwing good money after bad if you ask me.

            The SAA’s objective was to open the M4 and M% highways. The Turks’s objective was to roll back the SAA to the lines of the 2018 Sochi agreement.

            Despite the second biggest army in NATO fighting against a nation who has been at war for 10 years and on the offensive for nearly 2 months the offensive action has ceased and M4 and M5 are open. That’s all you really need to know and more Turkish soldiers isn’t going to make them more effective if their coms and GPS are useless and aircraft are being tracked by Russian air defences. They just become targets.

            What the Turks and the west in general won’t admit is that the “spectacular” success that Turkish drones enjoyed was in fact a sucker punch to the back of the head. The Turks have been permitted to fly surveillance drones over SAA forces since the 2018 Sochi agreement. The Turks not only violated a stand down agreement with the Russians …. they also violated the Sochi agreement by sending armed drones into Syria in addition to their surveillance drones at a time when Russian EW was down. The SAA never expected the Turkish drones they see every day to begin bombing them.

            It didn’t last long though did it?

        • Paul

          In your deluded mind. Erdodog has had his arse handed to him. If he was winning he wouldn’t agreed to a ceasefire, his desires for Idlib are obvious. He will continue to push the boundaries, the ceasefire won’t work and your beloved Erdodog will once again learn the hard way.

    • shylockracy

      Last time such strategy was used, when the Turk-led terrorists tried a sort of Blitzkrieg with drones and F16s to try to recapture Saraqib and the al-Ghab plain, it cost dozens and dozens more of SAA lives than normal battle would have. Syria can’t be looking forward to such scenario.

    • Adi

      You forget that any such attempt now gives Turkish army legitimacy to retaliate directly and by then the jihadees will be armed to their teeth.

  • 77

    HTS and TIP will not accept this for sure, M4 pass through Jisr Al-Shogur which is the center of the TIP, how will Russia patrol there? It will be necessary for the M4 to be cleansed of jihadists.

    • geopolitica

      you got it it’s all the point of this agreement is not viable turkish will fail

  • shylockracy

    With luck Syria has been able to secure Iran’s commitment to the liberation of Syria, Zioterrorists and Wahhabis have a more or less reliable partner in Putin knowing that Russia’s geopolitical stance is mostly defensive as Russia tries to find a place to fit in in the global Zioterrorist economic-military order.

    • Chris C Hanan

      Yeah I tend to agree with the point you’re making here! Funny thing is, regardless of whether jihadi zionists break this truce or not, the very option of a truce should never be on the table when Syria holds the winning cards. The constant stop and start to this war only emboldens Syria’s enemies and entrenched them, like in the North!

      • FlorianGeyer

        Another Jewhadi binned.

        Goodbye.

  • The Saint

    This agreement was essentially the offer made to the Turks several weeks ago: No withdrawal of SAA to Sochi lines; return of displaced persons to their homes; no joint patrols in SAA controlled territory including M5 road; 12 Km M4 corridor to be created and cleared of terrorists and patrolled by Russia/Turkey. What was unsaid is the likely agreement to withdraw most of the Turk forces from Idlib.

    It was interesting to watch the press conference because in all these situations the party who complains the most and has the most to say is always the losing side. Putin spoke for just a couple of minutes and thanked the Turks for their ‘constructive approach’, which is diplomatic speak for ‘thanks for agreeing to the Russian requirements’. Erdogan spoke for more than triple the time Putin did and blustered and complained etc.

    Regardless, this is good news for the people of Idlib and for the soldiers on the ground. However it remains to be seen if this can provide the framework for the required permanent solution to this province which still has 10s of thousands of terrorists running wild.

    • Tim Williams

      I give it 30 days …

      • geopolitica

        10 days

      • The Saint

        That’s quite possible given who we’re dealing with on the other side, but we never know. It will last ‘as long as it can’ and it gives us all a break..

      • Vitex

        in a generous mood then?

    • Informbiro

      The offer was a 6 km line along the Turkish border.I dont get how they got to this.Its bigger then Afrin.

      • Хасен Жасем Халфет

        currently the situation will be like this after March 15th:
        the Terrorists will leave the area in black and also the are inside the rectangle if they do not want to be incircled without approvisions because they will not be supplied from the north as Russia will cut M4 with patrols and in the South there is SAA.
        so basically the M4 (and even 6km to the north of it) got returned without further fighting and will be secure along all other areas secured bu SAA https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2505cb60f94fa11af3c97e7c113cc86e47f6c4d35e7125a517e5240a05d9ae5e.png

        • Informbiro

          Even if they withdraw from the rectangle as you say (highly doubt few patrols along a highway can cut off some supply),SAA cant take it over because its against the “ceasefire” agreement and the Turkish forces are now guarding the “ceasefire”.

          • Хасен Жасем Халфет

            it’s not just patrols … it’s a 12km wide safe area … safe area by definition will not have any terrorists be in it or pass it (which means 24/24 monitoring of the area by UAVs and ground patrols). that’ would stop supplies.

      • The Saint

        The idea is to kick it down the road to the Geneva process and the constitutional convention which will be an entirely Syrian process, after which the Turks will have to leave Afrin, Aleppo, Hasaka and Idlib.

  • Lone Ranger

    Al-cia-da and Turkisis are famous for holding. ceasefires…

  • yep

    IN DEPTH:
    Interview with Assad – We Will Liberate Idlib from Erdogan’s Muslim Brotherhood Terrorists

    President Assad: The core of the issue is American policy. At a point in time, the United States decided that secular governments in the region were no longer able to implement the plans and roles designated to them
    https://www.fort-russ.com/2020/03/in-depth-interview-with-assad-we-will-liberate-idlib-from-erdogans-muslim-brotherhood-terrorists/

    • FlorianGeyer

      Yes, the US prefers the ‘ US Anointed Warlord’ system of governance for other nations.

  • Tim Williams

    SAA gets control of 50 % of IDLIB … TURK posts in SAA lands will be vacated … SAA gets a rest for a few weeks and the rats have lost all their food supplies

    • Informbiro

      So they have to withdraw troops?

    • Valery Grigoryev

      Why do you think they have lost food supplies, Tim?

      • Tim Williams

        majority of agricultural areas are no longer in control of the rats

        • Valery Grigoryev

          But they have recaptured Al Ghab plain, unfortunately…

          • Tim Williams

            that is below the M 4 … That is to become SAA land

          • The Saint

            The vast majority of the Al Ghab plain remains under the control of SAA. Any terrorist element that remains south of M4 will be sandwiched between the M4 buffer zone and the SAA.

  • Tim Williams

    If Turkey breaks the deal … there will not be another meeting with Putin … this is it

    • yep

      True !

  • Terroristlers must surrender the M4 to joint patrols?

    LOL, this deal isn’t gonna work. Ceasefire will go down like a drunken prom date. I think we all know what happens next.

    • Tim Williams

      That’s the deal …

    • Adi

      Idlib just got Turkey now,get over it as quickly as possible. :)

      • Tudor Miron

        Imbecile, Turkey just gave up M4 and all the territories from which their terrorist rats were kicked out by SAA. Now rats will start shooting again and more territories will be liberated.

        • Adi

          I think you missed the: troops stay/retaliation right part. :)

          • Tudor Miron

            Troops stay where they are. No territories given back to rats. We all know what happens next. Rats start shooting again and loose more territories. Step by step Idlib will be liberated.

          • Ronald

            In the mean time, south of M4 will be bombed by both Syrian and Russian Air Forces to move the jihadi’s out.

          • Adi
          • Tudor Miron

            They can deploy Erodgans palace but that doesn’t change the fact that you rats, lost more territory to its rightful owners.

          • geopolitica

            don’t worry syrian army is going to respect this agreement for ten days … until turkey don’t like everytime

          • The Saint

            There is no ‘troops stay/retalliation part’ in the agreement.

          • Adi
          • Хасен Жасем Халфет

            as I said it is a temporary situation untill Sochi is figured out and terrorists dealt with. and there is no retaliation (ceasefire if broken SAA will resume attack).
            You missed the point. Idlib is Syrian Territory, SAA has the right to liberate it. Russia Supports SAA in claiming their undevized land.
            this Agreement is to clear current situation not a general consensus for the next 100 years. they will talk again soon.

        • John Brown

          You get it. They explain Putins strategy well here. It works, so the morons on this board should stop complaining about victory. It makes them look like morons or a zio mossad trolls.

          • Tudor Miron

            “It makes them look like morons or a zio mossad trolls.”(c) Or both.

    • Tudor Miron

      That’s what is expected but that would only lead to more territories liberated by SAA. If you didn’t learn how does it work from past couple of years than I suggest that you look closely now.

      • Yeah its not my first rodeo.

      • Mack Dane

        LOL…good one! SAA couldn’t liberate a child from its ice cream…

        • Tudor Miron

          Rat, if that 1.5 brain cells in your head do not allow you to compare Syria map of 2015 and 2020 than nothing will help you. But don’t expect others to fall to this imbecile level.

          • Mack Dane

            You sound intellectually challenged and you look like you smell bad. SAA man?

          • Mike

            They only thing that smells bad is the shit you type on the comments, Mac Crap.

          • JIMI JAMES

            Knuckle head.

          • dontlietome

            If anyone is intellectually challenged here it is you, but more so morally;- Who would think of a reply that insinuates taking ice-cream from a child……………are you a paedophile ? You sound like one.

          • dontlietome

            Hey Tudor, he hasn’t got that many !

    • gustavo

      Of course, terrorists were created by USA-Israel-NATO (Turkey) with the help of Qatar-Saudis-Jordan-Pakistan with the goal to destroy Syria, Iran, and Russia. As far as these nations continue supporting terrorists, the attacks to Syria land will continue.

  • Saif Imam

    Terrorists will start attacks soon, they’ve got cactus up in their ass. No ceasefire then. Before the meeting & during the meeting Russians and SAA kept pounding.

    • Tim Williams

      I give it until mid April

      • Saif Imam

        That’s a possibility, considering the fact Israelis kept bombing from the other side which looked like easing the continuous pressure on The Turks & terrorists. Another thing is since Hafter is trying an assault, what’s gonna happen in that front?

    • JerryDrake

      I totally understand you, cactus up in the ass can be a very tricky thing …

  • Tim Williams

    All Turk post must located north of the M 4 and west of M 5 outside of SAA held areas … Turk post are subject to snap inspections by Russian MP’S to insure they have nothing more than light arms … Turks will be limited to just 12 observation posts … any additional ones built will be subject to bombings until they are eliminated …

  • JerryDrake

    Ceasefire conclusion: for two settlements west of Saraqib terrorists traded whole Zawiya mountain, with over 50 settlements on about 500km2 of territory. And, just as importantly, they were left without a complete defensive line south of Idlib that they had been fortifying for several years.
    Like I said at the beggining of the operation few week ago – SAA made a good trade!

    • Tim Williams

      95 % of all food production is now in SAA hands …

      • yep

        No problem at all !
        Hungry terrorist can suck Erdogans tit and his d*ck to feed themselves.
        Hope that Erdogan’s milk is not too stale…

        • Tim Williams

          lol

  • Tudor Miron

    To sum it up:
    “The cessation of all hostilities along the existing line of contact from midnight on March 6th;
    Russia and Turkey create a six-kilometer-long security corridor north and south of the M-4 highway in Syria
    Russia and Turkey agreed on March 15th to begin joint patrols along the M-4 highway in Syria.”
    It means that Turkey’s operation didn’t allow them to get territories liberated by SAA back to rats occupation,
    It means that without a fight – M4 will be liberated otherwise Russian MP’s can not conduct joint patrols without rates being removed behind M4.

    • Tim Williams

      And all Turks observation posts currently in SAA controlled areas must be vacated

      • Ronald

        Is there any time line on that.

    • Kananda

      i suggest the same suscess on eastern ukrainian and baltic borders with russia.

      • JIMI JAMES

        I suggest you toughen the fk up,and stop riiping off american taxpayers for soros +bindens fake earn’t prosperity,take heed,no more pathedic excuses either you are a man or a mouse,russia were never the problem ok! Proof?

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLur6qiV87E

  • Tim Williams

    PUTIN tells ERDO …. BUST THE DEAL …. FACE THE WHEEL …

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLjwEodCmT4

  • Informbiro

    So,the occupation of Idlib is official now? Who gave the right to Putin to do this?

    • yep

      you are an idiot…. but since I know you as troll from earlier comments you are an idiot and troll

      • Informbiro

        Puši kurac

        • dario

          Pusi ti kitu drugu Titu, jebo te on u ta usta zvalava.

          • Informbiro

            Uuu,pa gdje si brate Ustašo!

      • Kananda

        yep, your mirror tells right sentences

      • yep

        There are 5 false accounts which disliked my comment?!?
        So you open 5 accounts for things like this ?
        To up-vote yourself or down vote somebody else?

        Than YOU ARE PAID TROLL a professional!
        How much do they pay you?
        And who pays you? Turks? Jews? NATO?
        And you put photo of communist dictator from Balkans..

        • Informbiro

          Mrš u pičku materinu! Dosadan si.

      • yep

        There are 7 false accounts which disliked my comment?!?
        So you open 7 accounts for things like this ?
        To up-vote yourself or down vote somebody else?

        Than YOU ARE PAID TROLL a professional!
        How much do they pay you?
        And who pays you? Turks? Jews? NATO?
        And you put photo of communist dictator from Balkans.

    • Tudor Miron

      You can say that whight is black but it would not make it true. But keep trying :)

      • Informbiro

        Foreign troops on my countries soil=Occupation

        • Tudor Miron

          Which country you are from?

          • Informbiro

            Serbia,why?

          • Tudor Miron

            You mentioned foreign forces on your soil. That’s why I asked – to know which soil did you mean.

          • Informbiro

            I am generally speaking,if you have foreign troops on your soil it means occupation.

          • Tudor Miron

            Fair point. But in this situation saying that means looking at current state of the process. I suggest that you look at the process in development. Than it is evident that despite intervention of NATO intervening and directly supporting their irregular armed forces (alqueda/daesh), SAA was able to liberate large part of its land. More than that – terrorist rats will have to give uo M4 without a fight. Yes, occupation is still there but it was reduced. That’s how Putin is doing this thing – steadily removing foreign forces from Syrian land without letting it sleep into premature confrontation with NATO that would lead to WWIII. Yes, it may seem slower than desired but that’s the way it works without escalating into major conflict.

          • Informbiro

            https://sputniknews.com/world/202003051078485714-russia-turkey-agree-on-common-document-on-settlement-in-syria—putin/

            Are you people blind? Putin gave Idlib to Erdogan in exchange for him babysitting his chechen,dagestani,uzbek and other Russian jihadies.!

          • Tudor Miron

            I will try one more time. Look at the map of Syria a month ago and look at it now. Don’t you see that red territory is increasing? But if you think that rats won than it’s up to you. It doesn’t change the fact that SAA operation to retake M5 and prevent terrorist rats from shelling Aleppo was successful. Turkey’s operation to prevent it and take back lands liberated from alqueda was a failure.

          • opet ja

            Right. SAA could have taken whole Idlib in few weeks.

          • JIMI JAMES

            Get your hand of it fake heart,you seen nothing yet bosnian muppet!

          • Informbiro

            Bosnia is just a Serbian province and you undercover nazi trolls keep bapthising me.Sisaj karu ustašo!

          • JIMI JAMES

            No if you have uninvited foreign troops means occupation,huge fkn difference!

          • Informbiro

            Didnt knew Syria invited the Turkish army,thx for the info,retard.

          • Raptar Driver

            Yes Serbia is occupied and so is Syria.

          • JIMI JAMES

            Serbia ousted un forces in 2015,serbia is not occupied (period)

          • Kananda

            do not discuss wit miron. he is extremly stupid moldavian guy migrated in moscow. he is fanatic commie, the same argues like khrushchev.

          • dario

            And you are that retarded slovakian nazi degenerate Solomon Krupacek, for some reason you are obsessed with Miron. 50% of all your dumb comments are about him, other 50% are some antirussian garbage.

          • JIMI JAMES

            really up de assed incest nazi! heres you fake lefties tyraid,you fool no one bot!

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLur6qiV87E

          • dario

            Tito’s fanboy… Tito was a croatian communist criminal and you worship him??

          • Adi

            Tito was a great man.He wiped your Nazi country clean:

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleiburg_repatriations

          • dario

            He was a piece of shit, just like you… go join him in hell.

          • Adi
          • Informbiro

            Napuši se ustašo.Tito vam je jebo mater.Odmah ste se digli čim je umro.

          • dario

            Ustasa si ti govno jedno glupo, cak i pricas ijekavicom, idi popusi titu u paklu. A ovaj Adi ti je decko ili jos jedan lazni akaunt, bukvalno pisete u razmaku od 30 sekundi?

          • Informbiro

            Napuši se kiteeee,ustašoooo,ustašooo! Srbija do Tokija brate!

            https://youtu.be/Q4Ee9POKGik

          • JIMI JAMES

            Croats are reight winged ok,nazi wannabes ok,Yugoslavia was communist!
            History proves masonic templar reight wingers were the cause of genocides where as the accusations are proven in todays governance of anti communists
            socialist fascism aint communist nor chinese,nor cccp (victors) nor heterosexuals
            or shall we say pro-eu-epp retards like the rest of slime assume reights is clean!

          • JIMI JAMES

            Bullfknsht you are,fool truth not,unless you sucked gaytos cok!

          • Informbiro

            Buš mi dal da malo karam Kolindu striček?

          • dario

            He is from Croatia, fake troll with another fake 6 accounts (almost all those who vote for him are literally new accounts with 0 comments)

          • Informbiro

            I would rather be from Turkey then from a nazi-vatikan state of Croatia.I dont get what you NATO nazis doing here?

          • dario

            Yeah I’m sure you like Turkey… nato nazis? you mean you, your 10 fake accounts, and your boyfriends Kananada and Adi?

          • Informbiro

            Your NATO Croatia and former nazi sattelite NDH.You not proud of your heritage as Croat and Vatikan lapdog? I only have 1 account and you and your troll friends are annoying to everyone.

    • Kananda

      the chechen djamahiria :)

    • opet ja

      U pravu si skroz. Putin-Erdo deal stinks…

    • JIMI JAMES
  • Valery Grigoryev

    “six-kilometer-long security corridor”. LONG???

    • Tim Williams

      wide

      • Valery Grigoryev

        It’s OK.
        And what about Jisr Al Shugur, which is at M4 too?

        • Tim Williams

          joint patrolled … free of rats

    • Caesar

      I recon it is rather “6km in either side”.
      That is how it is referred to in “Syria live map”

  • swedish_viking

    Turkey that was desperate for a ceasefire had to sell out the terrorists that they aided and fought together with.
    Not an inch of the governments gains has to be reversed but Turkey have to make the terrorist pullback on all fronts and the terrorists still needs to be defeated.

    • Tim Williams

      1 way tickets to Libya for them …

      • swedish_viking

        I would guess that Libya was brought up during one on one talks.
        I also think USA had to many demands on Turkey.
        But that’s only me guessing.

  • Xoli Xoli

    Erdogan have made up his mind.He is going to reinforce his terrorists rearming and repositioning and set up lots of terrorists observation spy bases.Ceasefire does not exist according to Erdogan just to night their will start with suprise attack on Syrian targets and hit and run tactic.Ceasfire and immediate full withdrawal of Turkish troop from Idlip could have work.

    • Tim Williams

      he is limited to only 12 … PUTIN told him any additional ones would be bombed and put out of action

      • Xoli Xoli

        Tim Erdogan is in serious pressure back home.So expect the unexpected.

    • Informbiro

      Agree,without troop withdrawal its a no deal.Its making of a new turkish zone like in the NE just bigger then 30km.

    • John Brown

      Again, You don’t get it. They explain Putins strategy well here. It works, so the morons on this board should stop complaining about victory. It makes them look like morons or a zio mossad trolls.

  • gustavo

    To think that Turkey will stop supporting terrorists is just a Russian dream. Even worst, Turkey has been sending to terrorists advanced weapons !! So, the situation for Russia air basis and SAA army is really a problem if Russia air space force stop giving strong support to ground troops.
    Turkey artillery and drones attacks in Idlib should be eliminated. However, Putin did not mention anything about this, did he ?

    • Tim Williams

      a ceasefire includes what you are mentioning

    • John Brown

      You still don’t get it! They explain Putins strategy well here. It works, so the morons on this board should stop complaining about victory. It makes them look like morons or a zio mossad trolls.

  • Wizzy

    Finally, Erdogan has been forced to become sane.

    To all the Muslim brothers and sisters, Syria can be Muslim or Secular, it does not really matter. Hell, you can make it a Muslim country through a legitimate constitutional process if you desire. It does not take away religious freedom of minorities (in fact under Islamic Law, you must guarantee their freedom and safety). But look at it this way: if Assad falls, you have a weaker Syria and with it essentially no opposition to Israel. Iran remains isolated as the only independent country in the Resistance Axis. That is not a favorable picture for a future free Middle East as in the grand scheme of things, US and Israel will have been handed victory. The idea was to take out Iraq, Syria then Iran. All other countries are ”allies”. We all know what happened with Iraq, and now Syria, then Iran.

    If you truly believe Erdogan is fighting to liberate the Middle East and Muslim lands, then you should support Assad and keep Syria strong. This is what perplexes Assad as he seems not to understand why Turkey is fighting Syria and yet they have “common” interests. This whole f*cking thing is illogical – unless of course Erdogan works for Israel.

    • Tudor Miron

      Unless… That mad Turk thinks that he works for himself but in reality he’s nothing but a puppet without even realising it. But that’s what Ottoman empire always was – a tool/cannon fodder in the hands of west.

  • Xoli Xoli

    Turkey terrorists will never separate and will grab this opportunity to pull Erdogan in Serious big war and risk his presidency.

  • That is what I am talking about. No matter how big an invading army is, Sovereignty, Self Determination, and National Pride will always prove a stronger force.

    With the Syrian gains being uncontested and the M5 highway now under Assad’s control, it’s time for reconstruction. It would be wise for Assad to continue trying to negotiate with the YPG. The Seljuk Brigade of Syrian-Turkmen are allied with the YPG/SDF. Having an agreement with the YPG would serve as a huge deterrent to Turkish forces. With that kind of deterrent in place, an outreach network to the Syrian-Turkmen Brigades led by the Grey Wolves can lead to deep comprehensive non-aggression pacts allowing Assad a large enough platform to reach out to Syrians in exile and welcome them back home. Congratulations to the victors..

  • yep

    “Erdogan and Putin agree on de-escallation in Idlib”
    According to the agreement, Turkey was obliged to secure its border with
    Syria and separate jihadists in Idlib from other armed anti-government
    factions willing to engage in negotiations
    with the Syrian government.

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/03/05/breaking-erdogan-and-putin-agree-on-de-escallation-in-idlib

    • Lone Ranger

      If Turkey wont doublecross this time the terrorists are toast in 48 hours.

    • FlorianGeyer

      So will we see the Jewhadi’s changing uniforms again ? :)

      • yep

        To be honest I intend to sit and wait till situation becomes more clear.
        Whatever tricks Erdogan might be planing these will be his last tricks !
        Simply because there will be no other negotiation or agreement if this one fails (because of him).
        It will be only his fault if he is kicked out completely out of Syria with even more dead Turks.

        Is he totally insane or crooked, does he understands situation well enough and is there some other game behind… with Turks and USA. Honestly I don’t know.
        Possibility to screw up agreement are endless but most of it depends on Erdogans choices.
        So they will switch uniforms and do million other fuck ups if Erdogan sticks with cheating
        But than he will lose by force and this time Russia will take out big guns to finish the job in Idlib

        Erdogan must wise up or he will be total loser.

        Terrorist mercenaries can’t become Syrians and these separation of HTS and other fractions who doesn’t want peace with Assad is essential for lasting peace in Syria
        If not , if it doesn’t work there is always returning to war as last resort option.
        I hope I have answered on your question

  • FlorianGeyer

    Erdo looks well pissed.
    The UN proscribed terrorists are still targets and outside the agreement and the Turk reinforcements will bolster the Jihadis.

    This agreement wil fail in hours , or in days at the most in my opinion.

    • Tim Williams

      I’m hoping for at least 30 days ..

    • John Wallace

      Doesn’t this look more like a get out of jail card for Erdogan. Face saving surrender by appearing he has made an agreement with Russia for home digestion. In reality he has lost ground where the SAA have taken it and lost more by having to give up the ground not yet taken up to the M4 to create a buffer zone six kms either side which means another 6 kms on the northern side lost . All previous terms remain such as HTS have to withdraw , which they won’t , and again the SAA can and will attack them. So for all he has done he has gained nothing and lost more ground in the process. The needless killing of people , of which he is so concerned about , ….. sorry I was choking ,,,, . To me it is a surrender by appearing to have won. I think he will reduce his future interference and that HTS and others that wish to fight will be eliminated . I didn’t expect Erdogan to capitulate so quickly but he obviously miscalculated and when Russia showed its hand he realised he was the turkey that was being hunted.

      • FlorianGeyer

        As a gesture , Erdo should hand over ALL the White Helmets in Idlib and Turkey to the Russians.

        That would really piss off NATO and the EU :)

  • François

    Good news: HTS & co are not included in ceasefire, and furhermore were never able to respect any ceasefire in the past…So guys, let’s hope this ceasefire won’t last long. Erdogan should me impeached from sending reinforcements, patriots…

    • Tim Williams

      ERDO should be executed

  • Dick Von Dast’Ard

    I’m still perplexed how western media seem to think that Russia will pack up and go home at some point, when it is quite obvious that war or no war, Russia is going to there for the very, very long-term.

    Strategically, pole position.

    • shylockracy

      That means the Western global Zioterrorists are ready to keep supporting ISIS/al-Qaeda in Syria and by extension, Turkey too despite the migrant drama at the Greek border. Trump talks a lot but terrorists and US in Syria are 100% on the Ziowahhabi anti-Assad bandwagon.

    • Хасен Жасем Халфет

      there is no western media thinking that. at least no credible ones as there are always delusional people.
      Russia Literally signed long term Lease on Hmeimim without time limit and Tartous until 2066 at least.

      • Dick Von Dast’Ard

        Russian military presence in the Syrian west basically makes Anglo-Zionist presence within Turkey and upon Cyprus heavily impacted.

        I’d expect a permanent detachment of Russian stealth fighters, Russian air defence units, Russian marines and Russian Kalibr capable warships.

        • Хасен Жасем Халфет

          the 5th gen fighters put aside … all the rest is already true (you do need to expect) Tartus has a Naval Infantry contigent. Both tartus and Hmeimim have Air defense bubbles and Russian Navy have a permanent task force in mediterranean

    • John Wallace

      Probably to create or reinforce the illusion that Russia has no right to be there while America has every right as afterall they are protecting the people.

  • Merovingian

    This is very bad news for the Libyan civil war, Erdo is going to simply transfer the terrorists to fight in a Libyan civil war. The same terrorist soldiers that the SSA are fighting, are going to be the same fighting against the Greek Libyans (LNA).

    Hopefully there will be a break in the ceasefire and Assad can finish off these terrorists before they move to kill Greeks in Libya.

    • Tim Williams

      They’ll be ground up in Libya

  • fayez chergui

    a ceassefire; a big mistake with these rats

    • Tim Williams

      rats had no say .. they were just the useful idiots for ERDO

      • FlorianGeyer

        Cyrus Irandoost , Andrew Jam, Kianoush Afsanian are all your bum boy fan club and your two Guest Votes will be as well , I think.

        • yep

          Those are accounts from the same person

          6 FALSE accounts here linked directly to troll called “Informbiro”
          And there is another “Raptar driver” in the mix also

          • FlorianGeyer

            They are not the brightest buttons in the Jewhadi box.

  • verner

    the ceasefire is just worth nothing since idlib is none of turkey’s business which means Syria and Assad, with the russians in a supporting role, will continue to clear out the trash – which is a catastrophy since it’s necessary that syria and turkey and iran and hezbollah are on the same page when it comes to wiping the jews in palestine off the map once and for all and if they do it right there won’t be the smallest sign of the occupation over about 100 years left – the jews will be all gone from palestine and the middle east have peace, a lasting peace.

    • shylockracy

      Religious fanatism in politics is a very real thing in the Middle East, unfortunately, and Erdogan sees headchopping Wahhabi extremists, some even from China, as better neighbours than a pluralistic Arab state. That’s a done deal, and Turkey is a NATO regime to boot. It’s difficult to make peace with that.

    • Andrew Jam

      You’re deluded if you think the Turds are anti-zionist! Turkey is Zionism. The very origin of it. Whose land did you think Turks not occupy… they sit on Armenia like Zionists sit on Palestine. And Putinyahoo signs them another ceasefire! One can’t make it up…

      • verner

        erdogan hates netanyahu and in erdogans view the land the jews illegally occupy today is really turkey’s and there are a few other points which erdogan won’t ever forgive or ever forget – so israel is finished if turkey sees the opportunity to finish off the jews once and for all.

      • verner

        so one comment on southfront and disputing something you obviously haven’t a clue about – nice weather in tel aviv or is it haifa where most of the leper colony’s half wits tend to come from.

      • FlorianGeyer

        “One can’t make it up.” Andrew Jam.
        Oh, but you do Jewhadi Jam.

        Goodbye.

      • FlorianGeyer

        “One can’t make it up.” Andrew Jam.
        Oh, but you do Jewhadi Jam.

        Goodbye…

  • Dick Von Dast’Ard

    Note how Erdogan seems to have forgotten about the ground forces that have done the most to defeat the Turk backed terrorists… Iran and Hezbollah.

    Strange oversight.

  • Tim Williams
  • Tim Williams

    ERDO’S adventure in Syria cost his regime somewhere between 1.2 – 1.5 billion in material and equipment … 300 – 500 troops KIA … gained nothing out of it … ZERO

    • Lazy Gamer

      Erdogan got to institutionalize Turkish presence in idlib city itself. The next time a shell lands in Idlib or some red line of it, that is immediately an activation of article 5. Nato war mongers will be preparing for that moment

      • FlorianGeyer

        Article 5 does not apply as Turkey has illegally invaded the Syrian lands of Idlib with Turkish combat forces to support UN proscribed terrorists.

        • Lazy Gamer

          It would since the Turkish presence is now mandated by an agreement.

          • FlorianGeyer

            You are wrong. Turkey cannot hide behind an agreement to attack Syrian forces, especially in support of ther Jewhadi proxies.

          • Lazy Gamer

            Think about plausible deniability or total abandonment of the choppers. They would be happy for now with Idlib.

          • dontlietome

            Bombs and cruise missiles speak louder than words, Turkey is the invader……..the world knows it and NATO will not go to war to bolster the dreams of a psychopath, and the reality is that Russia would liquidate the Turkish leadership in the blink of an eye,Period.When the “Dog” was summoned, he came crawling and fearful to his Master.

          • Lazy Gamer

            Most of the time even if truth has a platform, conflict will still persist.

          • The Saint

            This agreement is an addendum to the Sochi agreement. It does not change the status of Turk forces in Syria. Nato article 5 will not apply to any flare-up of hostilities if it should arise.

          • John Brown

            So if Nato activates article 5, NATO will not exist after the global nuclear exchange 60 minutes later.

            Translation NATO will never activates article 5 unless if involves countries like the USSA, UK, France or Germany.

            Tell me how all the zio cowards want to be vaporized over Idlb.
            Israel the capital fo the the racist supremacist global Jewish satanic slave empire dictatorship wants to destroy Turkey so they can activate the Yinon plan.

      • dontlietome

        “Erdogan got to institutionalize Turkish presence in idlib city itself.” You know this for a fact ???? You have spoken to the people there…………. you know about the reign of terror inflicted on the populous who were imprisoned there………….. This place is not Israel, NATO is not coming to the Dogs rescue, all the Septics want is another conflict where they can find willing customers to peddle their wares……………

        • Lazy Gamer

          1 tracked mind…

      • Xoli Xoli

        Article 5 will not be implemented in Syria as long as Russian military forces are present.

        • Lazy Gamer

          Maybe, maybe not. This is where miscalculations can occur. But notice that in both afrin and idlib, Turkey got to test the Russian red lines

  • Raptar Driver

    Is this groundhog day?
    Another deal that will not hold because one partner is not sincere.
    Putin is a fool, not a chess player but a dice roller.

    • Tim Williams

      have to play the diplomatic game .. I do believe TURKS are done fighting in the zone … RATS will be cut loose

      • Raptar Driver

        Truly I hope your right but past actions dictate the future.
        Diplomacy is a con job.

        • JIMI JAMES

          If your yankee,sure thing!
          Then again what became of they whom couldn’t keep to their word?debts!

    • yep

      How is Putin “fool” if he keeps wining and he wins completely at the end of this game?
      If the deal will hold, or not is of no importance for Syria or Russia!
      But that changes lot for Erdogan.
      So he better should stick with the deal because there will be no other offered to him!

      Russia and Syria will win doesn’t matter what Erdogan does or choose..
      Even if he starts all out war he will lose.
      Because this time Russia will kick Turk ass and properly if need be.
      So lets hope that massacre will not be necessary.
      You Westerners can’t understand Russians because you think it is always about bluffing and lying
      Russia does not bluff remember that!

      • yep

        Cyrus Irandoost Davand” is false account

        • Adi

          Lol,people are tired of you and your friends.Realize that.You just spam every single tread and discussion. :)

          • yep

            Yeah sure, those are your NATO colleagues a TROLLS at work

            The same excrement and vermin like yourself.
            Assad will win ! Whatever you do he will WIN !!

      • Raptar Driver

        Perhaps he is full because he keeps eating Turkish shit?
        No really what is he winning?
        Syria is still occupied by the Turks, U.S. and Israel and Putin makes deals with these jackals instead of putting them where they belong, in hell.

        • yep

          You have no clue what the hell are you talking about.
          You hardly know enough about Russians to jump on any conclusions like that
          And IF (that is big “IF”) you have good intentions than it doesn’t show.
          So why would I care about your opinion or try to explain you anything?
          Think whatever you want American, who cares…
          I know I don’t .

    • JIMI JAMES

      Good because he keeps on winning,Russian stocks up!

  • Tim Williams

    map rendering of today’s real estate transaction … purple area

    https://twitter.com/hamza_780/status/1235651711106244608/photo/1

  • Tim Williams

    This is great … the symbolism of it

    https://twitter.com/Hevallo/status/1235628252926009344

    • dario

      Simply brilliant! Not just that Catherine the Great defeated Ottomans, she had plans to completely eradicate them once and for all.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXjqsSaOReg

      “Selim is less proud now being pale as his crescent….” (Selim/Erdogan, same shit)

    • FlorianGeyer

      Wonderful optics that the Turks are probably still scratching their heads about, Tim. :)

  • cechas vodobenikov

    turks humiliated on the battlefield and diplomatically…of course the amerikans r even more humiliated—they don’t matter enough to be included

  • verner

    putin playing it nice and giving erdogan some serious time to get things right, which he is bound to get and once there it will be israel and the obliteration of israel to smithereens. no one needs israel and thus for the peace of th world the jews must go.

    • Tim Williams

      take your spew to another sight

    • JIMI JAMES

      I’m more inclined to believe the khazar/nazi + or masonic/templars in ;london,both sides of the same coin,after all there a jews and there are them above mentioned jewhadists vying for ww3!

  • Kananda

    Putin, the big Traitor is back!

    • John Wallace

      Traitor to who ?? . I don’t hear Bashar complaining.

  • opet ja

    Putin fucked up SAA.: now SAA can not use or cross M4 because 6km from both sides of M4 will be safe zones and Turko-Russian patrols will patrol that safe zone. That means SAA can not go into Idlib city.

    • Tim Williams

      You do not know what the phuck you are talking about

      • opet ja

        Yeah? Explain it to me please.

    • Informbiro

      Ma nemožeš ti to ovim glupsonima objasniti,nema vajde.

    • John Wallace

      HTS will not withdraw as per the agreement. HTS will not stop fighting as per agreement so the SAA will have to fight their way to the M4 and beyond which most likely mean surrounding Iblid on 3 sides too allow HTS and others to withdraw before they enter without having to destroy much or part of the city.

  • RichardD

    If this report is accurate It looks like the details are still being worked out:

    “The Russian and Turkish defense ministers would agree on the parameters of the corridor within seven days.”

    – Russia, Turkey agree ceasefire deal for Syria’s Idlib –

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security/putin-holds-talks-with-erdogan-to-seek-syria-ceasefire-idUSKBN20S161

  • klove and light

    treacherous Zionist Putin cock suckers here!!!!!!!

    so you idiots seriously believe HTS headchoppers will be “all nice” from now on????

    LOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOl

    PUTIN is a treacherous Zionist pig

    hahah you folks99% here just got made for the 156th time by treacherous Zionist Putin…..u dum ass Zionist cock sucking mother fuckers here…….
    I Quote Putin from 3 days ago

    “all terrorists will die”
    “no mercy for terrorists”

    and Bashar al assad

    ” all of Idlib will be liberated”
    “the we will turn to the east”

    u dum ass Zionist cock suciking doneys and sheep here

    DONT you ever UNDERSTAND what is happeniong u moronic bibi Zionist loving cock suckers here????

    PUTIN IS A TREACHEROUS ZIONIST BIBI COCK SUCKING PIG

    and 99% here are Zionist cock sucking brain washed motherfuckers……seriously u Monkeys and donks….GO TO HELL , were their zionists fathr is a t home…u Folks dont deserve any bbetter.
    im finishes here…useless pointless…pathetic ridiculous

    ps. today night IDF(for the morons that is isarel defense Forces) will again attack syria for the 2809th time in 5 years……..and as usual russian air defense will stand down, and you mortons will here the same bs Story “Russia does not like Israels Actions”
    and tomorrow night “HTS will attack in souhtern idlin and aleppo area and u dum ass Folks will then again the same aold bs Story from Russia too ” we are working with our turkish Partners to calm everything down”

    fuck off you 99% here u bibi ziopnist cock sucking Putin lovers

    • Mike

      Shut the fuck up animal.

      • dario

        Just flag that degenerate, eventually SF will ban him (long overdue)

    • John Wallace

      I think there are very few here that for one second believe that HTS will be good boys from now on. Sure a few delusional trolls may say they do but when is anything they said ever been true. So if you think 99% of us should fuck off and that I think means you don’t consider yourself as part of that 99% wouldn’t be easier if you joined the other 1% and fucked off which also means we wouldn’t have to put up with your delusional rantings and raving. Perhaps something you say maybe true or close to it but the ranting and raving maybe would be appreciated elsewhere.

    • JIMI JAMES
  • cliff

    That cease fire will not last cause Turkey have no real control over those terrorists,they will always try to break the cease fire. The only thing this mean Turkey will use this time to keep supplying its terrorist group and to send its forces and air defense in Iblib. I’m guessing the Russian will do the same and since Turkey have long range air defense, the Russian will be doing reconnaissance off the iblib zone and locate all air defense to be de destroy while Syrian government will rearming.

    • Tim Williams

      Turkey is out of this fight

  • RichardD

    The last DMZ agreement was never publicly released in it’s entirety from what I’ve been able to determine. Though Wikipedia did publish an extensive compilation of what it purportedly consisted of from various quotes and sources. Including leaked information.

    Maybe this time around we’ll get a better look at it if SF is correct:

    “The entire document is to be published in English, Russian and Turkish “soon,” when more details will follow.”

  • klove and light

    hahahahahaah… here we are already..even before ceasefirer……the new ceasefire deal ..READ!!!

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    The Russian and Turkish presidents have met in Moscow to discuss the recent escalation of tensions in Syria’s Idlib province. The flare-up was triggered by intensified attacks by local terrorists against Syrian forces and latter’s retaliatory strikes, in which Turkish troops were caught in the crossfire, resulting in casualties on their part.
    Russian President Vladimir Putin announced that he has negotiated an agreement to resolve the ongoing tensions in Idlib province with his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan. The two countries have agreed following “uneasy, but productive” talks that they should not reduce their efforts in the fight against terrorism and reaffirmed their adherence to the Astana format for resolving the crisis in Syria.

    © Sputnik / Sergey Guneev
    Russian President Vladimir Putin and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan meet in Moscow on 5 March 2020
    Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan stated that his country will be sending additional forces to Idlib province under a new agreement with Russia, but that the status of Turkey’s Operation Spring Shield will be “changed”. Erdogan added that starting at midnight between 5 and 6 March a ceasefire regime will be established in Idlib for both Turkish and Syrian forces. The Turkish president said that the army reserves the right to respond to any hostile actions of the Syrian forces, but assured that otherwise Turkish troops will simply be monitoring that the ceasefire regime is abided by.
    “We have established observation posts to reduce tensions in Idlib. These posts have pledged to only monitor the ceasefire regime’s implementation, but not to control the field”, he clarified.
    Commenting on the recent events that prompted the escalation of violence in Syria’s Idlib, Putin accused militants based in the province of restarting the hostilities in the region, which have led to casualties among the civilian population, the Syrian Army, as well as Turkish forces.

    • Mike

      Wanna banana you stupid Israeli monkey.

  • klove and light

    o Turkey will be sending ADDTIONAL TROOPS….

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLO)LOL

    this is treachery out in the open and not eben hidden any more

    lol u 99% brainwashed Zionist cock sucking Putin lovers

    Putin is atreacherous Zionist bibi cock sucking pig

    • Mike

      Shut the fuck up you stupid animal.

    • JIMI JAMES

      Just because you did don’t mean he did,fkhed,here you go whos the taxpayers traitors gimp,

      anything for you fake billion master oh master plz i lie i suck ye incest kok,glory soros+biden eh’ fekn sputnik p00fta

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLur6qiV87E

  • klove and light

    reaking on Sputnik news

    erdogan will be sending additional troops into Idlib by Agreement with Putin!!!!

    lolol ridiculous pathetic treacherous

    Putin u fuicking Zionist bibi cock suking pig

    • Mike

      Again posting shit there Tel-Aviv monkey.

    • JIMI JAMES

      sputnik all like tickle up de ass fekn weak pooftars,liars,kweer,no honour,no valour,no sht punk!

  • RichardD

    The last ceasefire DMZ agreement had an implementation timeline according to published reports. It’s reasonable to expect that this one will also. If the Turks comply with it, which they didn’t last time. It will effectively clear the province to 4 miles north of the M4. Resulting in another big gain for the Syrian government coalition. This time without death and destruction.

  • John

    It is a win, that will lead to more liberated territory. Nice work.

    • Tim Williams

      yes it is … if ERDO lives up to his word

      • Ronald

        Even if he doesn’t, the boundaries have been substantially reduced.

  • Tim Williams
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    • Tudor Miron

      Erdo is trying to get rid of his rats. He know that soon they will have nowhere to fo other than Turkey and than they’ll blow it apart.

      • Tim Williams

        easier just to poison their food and let them die of botulism

      • JIMI JAMES

        Its amazing how these wannabe nazi bots of soros,biden,incestive hitler spawn khazars,
        all assume leaders like erdogan and putin with relinquish bi lateral trades to to serve their masters masonic templar interests? Take a guess which of whom are disposables!
        Heres the acid test,show the hard evidence,these gulags don’t even care about their own people,for if they did or truly were,you’d think theyd grow up and assess the more profound factual evidence proven to date overall,but never!

  • Tim Williams
  • Assad must stay

    if putin or erdogan really wants a ceasefire then they need to have a meeting with the rats, because they are the ones always breaching the ceasefire literally right after its agreed upon, but i doubt meeting with rats will ever happen

    • Tim Williams

      Not going to happen … they will be shipped to LIBYA or die …

      • Assad must stay

        or they will just keep breaching the ceasefires as they have done so well in the past time and time again, rendering these meetings with erdogan pointless

        • Tudor Miron

          They seem pointless if you don’t compare the Syrian map before and after. Watch that SF video in the end of the above article.

          • BMWA1

            Time to redirect effort s east of Uphrat

        • Tim Williams

          TURKS are out of the fight with SYRIA now

        • yep

          There will be no more meetings.
          This is the last one
          If war restarts it will not stop till Syria liberated.

          • Assad must stay

            From your mouth to Gods ears lol

          • yep

            Somehow you do not understand Russian way of thinking.
            They will go to great length to try to resolve problem peacefully.

            But once all those possibilities exhausted they will not hesitate to use
            maximum force to obtain what was agreed.

          • Assad must stay

            russian way of thinking is trusting the same person over and over again who never kept his promise?

          • yep

            And who ever told you that they were “trusting” him?
            They didn’t!
            Those agreements were opportunities for Erdogan to show the commitment and ability to execute what was agreed !
            Each time he came with excuse and each time he was even less trusted.
            So no Russians are not naive but do not take wars lightly since 20 million of them has perished during the WW2.
            They do try to avoid the war but they will NEVER TRY to avoid war if it becomes inevitable.
            They are not cowards and they do not bluff .

          • Assad must stay

            exactly my point, so how many times are the russians, which have a very good very strong military, going to keep trusting a snake like erdogan before they resort to the maximum force policy you mentioned?

          • yep

            I do not understand your problem?!
            You are sitting on your ears maybe?!
            I have told you already that they never trusted him and you keep asking me opposite?! !

            I have no time for this bullshit, this conversation is finished !

          • Assad must stay

            idiot

          • JIMI JAMES

            7million according to official stats just released by us top secret intelligence!
            look how thety lie today,do you honestly believe the nazis+ west admit the better victors also lost fewer peoples,don’t fall for the mi6/cia/paid bullsht !

            https://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/043.html

          • yep

            Jimi those stats of would be “SOVIET” archives are CIA propaganda bullshit !
            They do not have Soviet archives!
            That info from would be “archives” is CIA propaganda stunt !.

            They only try to make REVISIONIST history of the WW2 and negate Soviet victory over the NAZI’s !
            Because it was Soviets who won against the NAZI’s not USA

            No I do not “believe” good intentions of the West in anything any more!
            And try to read my previous comment again because I think you got something wrong way.

          • goingbrokes

            Russian way of thinking is: trusting the same person over and over again to make the same mistakes they made before.

          • Assad must stay

            Seems to be that way lol

      • FlorianGeyer

        Or shipped to Libya TO die, Tim. :)

        • Tim Williams

          be a lot easier to just poison their food with botulism or something similar

    • FlorianGeyer

      The rats are career murderers and rapists. They will not change. The only cure for them is death.

      • Assad must stay

        Agree hundred percent

    • yep

      “they are the ones always breaching the ceasefire”
      So what?
      Syria will use that in her own advantage (as usual) and continue offensive and Russia will continue bombings.
      And rats will lose and be exterminated !
      At the end Syria will win like they always did in recent past.
      But now Tigers, Hezballah and those who fought the most need short break to rest.
      And most of the front line needs resupply of the food and ammunition for future combat.
      Putin really wants ceasefire, but Erdogan must want also, what was agreed.
      To prevent the terrorist to impose their will and ruin agreement.
      This is the last agreement with Erdogan.

      If this doesn’t pass, Erdogan will lose all influence in Syria and Turks will be kicked out complexly

      • Assad must stay

        I’ll believe it when I see it

        • yep

          Problem with you is that you “believe”in some opposite things that you don’t “see” also .

          But suite yourself.
          After 5 years of fighting on Assad side Russians do not deserve the way how you and many like you treat them

          • Assad must stay

            and what do you think i believe in? if russia was truly 100% for assad they would stop these stupid ass ceasefires that last for a day or just a few hours

          • yep

            You are hopeless,

            think whatever you want you are just not worthy of me wasting my time on you.

          • Assad must stay

            get out of here

          • yep

            Out of where?

            Are you proprietor of something?

            You are definitely not one of brighter Muslims.
            You are young and not very intelligent.

            But luckily there are plenty of intelligent Muslims who unlike you understand situation and can’t be tricked.
            There, you are up-voted by troll false account.

            That is where you belong among useful fools, servants of Western trolls

          • Assad must stay

            BE GONE THOT

          • yep

            You are pathetic child
            Hope when you mature little bit that your brain will start to work.
            For the moment you are hopeless and you definitely do not defend interests of Syria and Assad

            You are just another Western “useful idiot” (as they are called)

            A mouth-peace for attacking allay of Assad-Syria and by doing that supporting Western -USA & NATO, Turk,Israeli interests.

          • Assad must stay

            i am 100% for assad and syria and iran and hezb, do not ever question that

          • yep

            You can’t be for them and against Russia you idiot, it is as simple as that!

          • Assad must stay

            I’m not against Russia at all, I’m against ceasefires with erdogan and rats, its as simple as that, you idiot

          • yep

            The job will be DONE and all Wahabi’s will be exterminated at the end!
            Call me an idiot or liar or whatever you prefer if that doesn’t happen !

            It will only take time to do it and certain strategy (that you dislike so much) but it will be done all the same!
            Assad and Iran are not idiots and Russia does not play double game !
            They are an ALLAYS and they fight all for same objective!!!
            Rusia can’t do something that Iran or Syria reject categorically so they ALSO AGREE with these methods if not it would be not possible for Russia to do it without their direct support!!
            Stop separating Russia all the time from Assad and Iran and Hezb because they are allays fighting on the same side!

            Your problem is with the tactics but that tactics is accepted by Iran and Assad also !
            Ther are plenty of things that we don’t know and they must have their reasons why are they proceeding to fight this way!
            Stop labeling Russia as “traitors” or talking against them, that way you are not helping !

          • Assad must stay

            I hope you are right, but time will tell

  • Tim Williams

    SARMIN BEING HAMMERED UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE …

    https://twitter.com/Archer83Able/status/1235678397608521728

  • Tim Williams
    • FlorianGeyer

      Dumb Turks again.

    • Lazy Gamer

      Delegates’ fault. lol I am disappointed that the internal mechanisms of Turkey’s presence in Idlib was not tackled.

  • Wizzy

    It’s time

  • RichardD

    It looks like they’re going to publish the agreement publicly this time:

    “Following our talks, we agreed on a common document, the provisions of which will be made public by our foreign ministers.

    This document describes the solutions that the President of the Republic of Turkey, Mr Erdogan, and I elaborated during today’s consultations”

    – Press statements following Russian-Turkish talks –

    http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/62948

  • jm74

    Russia is more concerned over their Turkey investments; this agreements speaks of capitulation by Russia. Permitting Turkey to deploy extra troops to Syria and the BS statement that they both will continue their fight against terrorism especially with the major sponsor and supporter of terrorism, Turkey. Turkey is now in control of more Syrian territory, they should have been made to leave.

    • Tudor Miron

      More Syrian territory? Did you look at Syrian map a month ago and now? M5 is liberated. Turks obliged to clear M4 without a fight. What’s wrong with your logic? Childish maximalism?

      • jm74

        My logic differs to yours and what makes you think that you are right? The Syrian borders have not changed, according to the map but Syrian occupation has taken Syrian territory with the help of Russia, so do your homework and stop your ‘childish maximalism’. Unless you are privy to what goes on behind closed doors your statements are only hypothesis but in you case it is not based on an intelligent assessment so go and dictate to someone else.

  • RichardD

    The bottom line is will the ceasefire actually take effect? And if it does, will the Turks live up to their end of the deal this time, and cede control of the M4 to the Syrian government coalition?

    The first might happen temporarily, time will tell. If past Turkish breaches are any indication, expecting the Turks to actually live up to their end of the deal on turning over control of the M4 is questionable. First the ceasefire has to take effect.

    • Tim Williams

      we’re going to find out …

    • goingbrokes

      Every hour of ceasefire is beneficial at the moment, to allow SAA to consolidate their captured positions and be able to work openly without drone attack fears.
      I don’t expect it to last, as Erdogan cannot fully control AQ. But that’s ok, SAA will win this before too long. Reduced Idlib is fast becoming a completely unviable entity, and Turkey is in no position to support a financial black hole like that.

      • RichardD

        The Turks have paid and supplied the terrorists for years. They work for the Turks and are their Yinon plan forever war regime change proxies.

  • Tim Williams

    TURK media trying to portray it as a great victory for ERDO … I don’t think the average Turk will believe this …

  • Tim Williams
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    • goingbrokes

      If that represents the true flight path of the plane, they just flew right over the At-Tanf American base (videoing/photographing everything). Russian trolling continues, lol!

  • Tim Williams
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  • Vitex

    Ceasefire broken at 00:02 I predict

    • Vitex

      Seems I was about 20 minutes early, according to Andrew Britani (and he would know)

  • Tim Williams

    22 violations in just 47 minutes … hope TURK forces are not around … RuAF coming in …

    https://twitter.com/RojavaNetwork/status/1235698400458240000

    • Astrid Watanabe

      Of course. What else is new?

  • hvaiallverden

    So, WTF is this lame idiot from St. Petersburg thinking, peace deal, signing eh…. agreements, with erDOGan the Khan, uh… or is the bloody traitor Putin thinking at all, makes me wounder, because the last time, the week spineless Putin sucked up all the fairy tales this Turko-Mongol rats can muster to the shit for brain Russians, He slaughtered people, and have even killed Russians, and can do that because of investements, yeah, like the head thrusting up the Joos asses, I think Putin is loosing this.
    This attack, was an victory for the Turds, this agreement is an confirmation of been bitchslapped by the Turds, nothing else, no victory whatever, just another repeating of other eh… deals, witch turned out to be and creating strategical cluster f….

    Yeah, once again people will die because of week Putin, the scums we all know about, but Putin have made so many strategical cockups that I wounder how the hell is this possible, I know why, but I also know the Russians would start to howl, because Putin is rotten to His core, period, with an even more rotten and incompetent Army, its become an farce.
    Several times, over and over again, Putin refuses to do anything, because of been spineless in an world is scums and humiliates the Russian forces, whom have not been what I expected, infact, I am not impressed, but I also know what was/is the main problem, Putin.
    And all we get is lame explanations, because we dont undestand 21d Chess.

    And dont come with the lame, have no obligations, and I could tell you what happens because of having an spineless creep in the helm, Russians, you will loose even more, because the present Gov and Military is just an f…. joke, and havent impressed anyone, except maybe Saker.
    I want to headbang into an wall, again the same circus, and I know that this time, this so called Truce will just make thing much worse for the Syrians, because of the Jewish Bitch Putin, dealing with an Tchurka.
    Huh, Russia, beaten to pulp by donkey f…. Turds.
    Yeah, the degenerating in Russia is solid.
    This bloody farce is an victory to the Turds, nothing else.
    I follow this because of Syria and wars in general, but what I see, not that I havent, but have been more on solving issues than throwing blames, but Putin have not been what I thought He was, aTurd s is an Turd, but Russians, its an sad show, have sunked to the same level, regarding justice and truth, witch is not only reflected in Syria but also in other regions, where they are just there for selling arms, as others do, and the only place where they do something, at least, try, is in Syria, and despite the “sucsess” my contempt for the Russian Army and more, the even wurse Gov, is going upward this days, time and time again, Russia folds, and gives the Rats charte blanch to do whatever they want.
    I told you, never ever trust Russia, never.

    peace

    • Tim Williams

      snap out of it …. the TURKS are pulling out

    • Fronzie

      So…u ready for ww3

  • Fronzie

    1)Ildib was sold or 2) Next coup In Turkey for Erdogan will be the last….

    • JIMI JAMES

      Get a sex change,seens you are too uncomfortable to be the real man with true sack,gimp!
      Nice try but erdo is better than gulen like it up de ass pro ;lgbtq incest spawn fake rich man turd!

  • Boxman

    Exactly as I said a couple days ago: they’re giving away part of Idlib and possibly other parts of Syrian territory also. This territory will be supposedly used as a “safe zone” for refugees. I expect they’ll lose a good chunk of Idlib, along with Afrin and the chunk of Turkish-occupied territory in NE Kurdistan. Those bits are gone forever.

    • Tim Williams

      LOL

    • The Saint

      Wrong. The idea is to kick it down the road to the Geneva process. This is backed by the UN and agreed by the Turks in this and previous agreements. The constitutional settlement will not include Turkey keeping any part of Syria and they will be required to leave if they have not already done so.

  • Fronzie

    Erdogan he is not aware of what military power he has,,,is turk .With a little courage and without FEAR of LOSES can take Damascus in 48h.Putin has shown his weakness on the ground,One is fight against the rags and one is fight against military troops .Threat for Erdogan is only inside Turkey and here …Putin will not forgive

    • JIMI JAMES

      Get your hand off it,mongrel!

  • Dick Von Dast’Ard
  • RichardD

    This ceasefire has a much shorter implementation time frame than the last one. And is much simpler, and in theory easier to implement.

    The Russian and Turkish defense ministers have 7 days to design the M4 transfer. And 3 days after that to complete the transfer.

    That’s assuming that the ceasefire actually begins and holds that long. The ball is almost entirely in the Turk’s court. If they can’t, or don’t, get their terrorists to toe the line. Then no ceasefire, at least in the M4 area, no M4 transfer.

    So if the ceasefire doesn’t begin and hold, it means that the Turks aren’t going to deliver on their end of the deal. Neither the ceasefire or M4 transfer.

    This looks like a Russian once bitten twice shy agreement that is considerably tighter with far less wiggle room than the last one.

  • Alex Cabrera

    a waste of time all people know that hts is fact in control in idlib

    i cannot understand why putin is agreeing to this knowing all along that it will not work

    • verner

      the world watching require that something is done, europe for one is screaming bloody murder where the idlib refugees are concerned and the white house idiot can’t be bothered and nato, and particularly the european part of nato, isn’t all that interested in trying to correct the cock up that the regime change operation turned out to be, but, the truce won’t hold more than a few days and then syria and russia will continue the liberation of idlib andhopefully erdogan has arrived at some sensible decision for turkey, cause idlib isn’t sensible. he’s bettter off thinking of cyprus and gas and what to do to stop the greeks.

  • MeMad Max

    Putin: Suck my dick
    Erdoghan: YES daddy!

  • Jaime Galarza

    I hope Turkey and his Frankensteins break the agreement. Then, Russia and Syria will have the chance to pound the criminal invaders to pieces.

    • verner

      of course it will, never was the intention but it will calm the idiots in the white house and in westminster and so on – rest assured, idlib will be liberated and the jihadists kicked all the way to hell.

  • Constellation 2023

    Shorty Putin looks like a midget next to Big Erdogan! LOL

    • verner

      but a bit more clever than erdogan and far more clever than say idiot trump, iq’s like your shoesize.

    • yep

      But actually it is the Erdogan who is intellectually less than “midget” comparing to Putin

      So I would always choose Putin as my president between the two.
      And you do not sound intelligent at all by trying to ridicule peoples physical appearances.

  • seawolf

    I have to admit that the more information I receive from the site, the more I believe this is a good agreement given the local and international circumstances. It is another rational achievement of the Russian foreign policy. Since I am not into gains and losses game, I can say its a good agreement for Syria and the suffering Syrian people. I hope it holds and give them time to deal with the reconstruction of the country!

  • Davki

    A comprehensive plan is needed for greater Idlib. Simple continuation of the SAA’s advance after the ceasefire is one option, but will likely result in Turkish military supporting oppositional militants in their struggle against the Asad government. Hence there is great danger of escalation which nobody wants (except perhaps the Jihadi extremists and some armchair SF readers). Erdogan’s maximum objective, to create some sort of semi-independent vassal fiefdom in Idlib has clearly failed. Without Turkey, the militants won’t be able to hold out. So, either Turkey will eventually withdraw, due to domestic pressure, then the SAA + Russia, Iran, HB etc. would simply mop-up the remaining opposition or a temporary status will be granted; that would only be acceptable, however, if there is a timeframe for re-integration into Syria proper.

  • John Brown

    They explain Putins strategy well here. It works, so stop complaining about victory. It makes you look like a moron or a zio troll.