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Pro-Western Armenian Government Lost Nagorno-Karabakh, But Russia Gained It

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At least twelve Il-76 military transport aircraft have delivered servicemen of the 15th Peacekeeping Brigade to Armenia, the Russian Defense Ministry reported on the evening of November 10.

“Planes of the Military Transport Aviation have delivered more than 200 servicemen as well as armored personnel carriers, armored vehicles and communications equipment,” the satement said.

The total strength of the Russian peacekeeping contingent that would be deployed in the Nagorno-Karabakh region will be 1,960 military personnel, 90 armored personnel carriers, 380 units of automobile and special equipment.

“The core of the Russian contingent will be subdivisions of the 15th Separate Motorized Rifle Brigade (peacekeeping) of the Central Military District,” the statement added.

In order to monitor the compliance with the ceasefire regime, Russia will establish observation posts along the contact line in Nagorno-Karabakh and along the Lachin corridor. To control the peacekeeping operation, the command of the Russian peacekeeping forces will be deployed in the area of Stepanakert.

Pro-Western Armenian Government Lost Nagorno-Karabakh, But Russia Gained It

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After the full implementation of the peace deal signed by Armenia with Azerbaijan after the de-facto loss of the war, the only factor providing security to the remaining Armenians in the Nagorno-Karabakh region will be the Russian military presence there. At the same time, practical actions (not propaganda) of the current government of Armenia have demonstrated that Yerevan is not interested in the Nagorno-Karabakh territory. Even in the hardest days of the war, Yerevan has not initiated steps to recognize the Republic of Nagorno-Karabakh as an independent state or as a part of Armenia. Also, no regular Armenian troops were sent to fight Azerbaijan in the region.

Therefore, Stepanakert and nearby areas, including the Lachin corridor, just became the area of the Russian influence. Another factor is the control of Russian border guards over the transport corridor between Azerbaijan and its Nakhchivan Autonomous Republic through southern Armenia, which was agreed as a part of the peace deal. Additionally to the overwhelming military advantage and the economic/political influence on Azerbaijan, this also a factor that would play its own role in containing potential attempts of Azerbaijan to resume military actions there. On the other hand, it should be noted that with the Armenian surrender of Azerbaijani districts and the capture of Shusha by Azerbaijan, Baku achieved most of its military and political goals. Thus, it is also not interested in the escalation.

In the case of the goodwill posture by Azerbaijan and the Russian interest in the region, the remaining Armenian-populated Nagorno-Karabakh areas would have notable chances to resume their economic and social development as a factor of the permanent peace in the region.

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DV28L

If the documents of the armistice are posted somewhere where can I find it?

BMWA1

Just like Tommy said. Putin’s greed for more land-masses!

Robert Ferrin

Idiot.!!!

catalin zt

Your capitalist-fascist mum in greed for more and more Willie’s! And profits indeed!

Captain Freedom

Who the fuck is Tommy? your split personality?

JIMI JAMES

Up ye cakehole too,no future in fascism nor your presitgious lgbtq (period) mr fake electors!

Stev60

What a stinker of a settlement. Azerbaijan even gets big areas it did not even capture, reducing Artsakh to a crippled rump. Typical Putin, but destroys any chance of Armenia or others ever having any love for Russia ever again. They will look West instead for sure.

Jihadi Colin

At this point that can look anywhere they want but they can’t go to the bathroom in the morning without Russian say so. Whether they like it or not is immaterial.

Stev60

On the contrary, Russian say-so matters less than ever now that Artsakh is basically gone, apart from a Russian-occupied rump that hardly matters. It certainly is Russia’s fault to have permitted the Turkic-jihadis to attack at all, let alone dominate the skies with drones, despite a historic and cultural obligation to have permitted neither regardless of political spats with the Yerevan regime. My ‘point’ is not at all invalid, and Russia has lost power, not gained in, in any sense that really matters. Sure like some bandit thug it holds ‘say’ over what’s left of Artsakh, but Armenia proper is now justified and sensible to look elsewhere than such bandit-thuggery. As for love to lose, there was certainly still some amongst the people especially, now it’s gone for good. And not just in Armenia.

Jihadi Colin

“Historic and cultural obligation”?

Armenia has a treaty with Russia to defend Armenia against external attack (and vice versa). Armenia did not include the so called republic of Artsakh in that treaty, did not even recognise it itself, and since Azerbaijan predictably stayed within its internationally recognised borders the treaty did not come into play. And it’s been years since Armenia, despite your “historic and cultural obligation”, has been spouting shrilly anti Russian rhetoric. Does “historic and cultural obligation” go only one way?

We saw what happened with people with love to lose in Ukranazistan after the Maidan. Love is trumped by Nazi flagwaggers who control the streets. An Armenia that can’t blink without Russian protection now is better than an Armenia in NATO from the Russian perspective, and it is totally immaterial what Armenians think about that.

Stev60

You are very deluded. Artsakh was not Armenia, Russia had an obligation to maintain it in substance against renewed Turko-Islamist assault regardless of politics in Yerevan. Russia did not recognize it either, and was far more in a position to do so. Armenia can not only blink, as a sovereign state it can and will look elsewhere in future, along with some others.

Jihadi Colin

I’m deluded? How do you see that? Armenia claims Artsakh isn’t its territory. Fine! So it has nothing to complain about in a war between Azerbaijan and Artsakh. And Russia had not only no obligation but absolutely no reason to intervene in its favour at all.

catalin zt

The Armenians sold their soul to the anglo-saxonkhazarian DRACONIAN MAFIA! Nobody else did that to them!

Andre Lopes

It appears you are looking from the bad side of this. Russia saved armenains from daying in a lost war. What is the pointing of dying just for stating a point?? Armenians living and growing is better than dying. Armenians can stay there, or they can migrate to Armenia, they can migrate to Russia. Russia need more people and have a country that is the size of a continent. Armenians already live in Russia and Russia would love to have more people living there. Also those thousand of Armenians faced a certain death in a lost war. Now they can live and decide what to do with their lives.

Stev60

Bullshit. Artsakh is finished. So is Armenian, Georgian, Ukrainian, and Belarusian regard for RuSSia, which is to blame for the war to begin with, by giving the green light for Turko-jihadis to attack and then standing by while they used drones to win.

JIMI JAMES

You miss the point dumbass,infact you need to get off them sex change tabs,
lieing fascist satanic kunt!

Fog of War

” You miss the point dumbass ”

And you dad didnt pull out fast enough.

Kefir

Should Russia let azeri take whole karabah ?? Whre are Armenian american friends,do they even know where armenia is.

Stev60

It should not have let them take any of it. Americans are otherwise occupied right now, you might have noticed. Trump abandoned Artsakh also, Biden will build bridges to Armenia and others.

JIMI JAMES

Biden is not the legit president you deplorable feminist assflogged incestive disorderly,soros anarchy stnking piece of sht,you will lose again and keep falling flat on your faces ,se’low dementy lamestream supporting dills!

Stev60

Total imbecile.

Rhodium 10

Armenian Kim Kardashian and sisters were enjoyning holidays in Tahiti while Armenians were fighting and dying…

viktor ziv

Armenians had their chance for the past 30 Years to resolve it in peaceful manner!!! Azer deserve to liberate the whole fucking NK with a pencil move, this saves LIVES YOU FUCKING RETARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stev60

Fuck off scum, this saves nothing worth saving, the lives could have been saved without destroying Artsakh, and who will want to stay there now except Turks?

catalin zt

The crumbling,pervesepervert, Genocidal, facscist-capitalist “west”!? Ha ha Only an suicidal nation can do that, unfortunately many around…

JIMI JAMES

Biden supporter the trolls a p00f and or wannabe mask head of fake democracys:

catalin zt

Stinker is ur mum dirty puss anglo-saxon materialist capitalist-fascist prostitute!

Stev60

You scum prove how sick and evil Putin’s RuSSia is.

JIMI JAMES

I don’t thionk so gimp,for starters you havn’y got prudence on your side,let alone the truth:

Rhodium 10

Yeah sure…but sooner or later and with Biden in power Pashinyan would ask to join EU and NATO…it would have a huge problem for Russia and Iran…now NK is the facto a Russian protectorate like Kosovo is the same with USA ( they have a large military base Camp Bondsteel)…”they will look West instead for sure”..ask to Kurds in Syria…they were betrayed twice by USA because Turkey is a NATO member!

Stev60

Kurds have no state at all. Armenia is a sovereign state. Let Russia keep what’s left of NK, it will be an empty wasteland anyway.

SevenMoons

Putin is very smart. He knew Armenia is looking to the West. So he has to weaken Armenia. Even a weak and smaller Armenia joins West, it poses no threat to Russia.

Fog of War

” Even a weak and smaller Armenia joins West, it poses no threat to Russia. ”

Until the US / NATO bases show up that is.

Stev60

Putin is an imbecile. Not only Armenia but Georgia, Ukraine, and Belarus will join the West at least now.

midell

You dont need to look west.. Just go full west who cares! .tell your over 3 million armenian living in Russia to move west..who cares! Withdraw from treaty with russia that defacto guarantee Armenia statehood too.. In any case This treaty is currently tilted heavily against Russia..why should Russia sacrifice the life of its men and women.. Defending punch of overbloated ingrates for nothing in return??!!. US or any country will never contemplate such. Armenia is acting like an overspoiled child since dellusional anti russia soros minded ingrates like you took over the helm of affairs in yereven..believing that anti russia actions is good for armenia. Putin has save a lot of ingracious Armenia n lives by stoping this war. He really has a large heart..i would have allow you guys to be mauled off by erdogan turkish alliance. Let the west come and save you from the hand of turkish Alliance!
This is Armenia last chance! The next war.. After Russia withdraw from worthless treaty Armenia… will see turkish flag in yereven.

Stev60

Get lost scum. Not only Armenia but Georgia, Ukraine, and Belarus at least will look West, permanently, as a result of this Satanic Russian treachery.

midell

Cry me a River!.. Russia has gracious and meaninful allies and partners beyond the west not worthless people that hate them and still expect them to die defending them.
Dont just look west.. Go fully west.. Russia will never never ever miss you or any of the nations you mention.. But sure they will miss russia. Not just economicaly but militarily.

StafJustice

Where are all the trolls!?

JIMI JAMES

Too busy dancing with biden,but that too will blowback thus fall straight on their faces:

SevenMoons

Media blackout in Armenia.

Ashok Varma

But not in Pakistan.

Frank

The outcome is inconclusive so it is time for them to regroup and come up with a new spin. The winner is Russia. PERIOD.

Tchoutoye

Those angry Armenians in Yerevan protesting against the deal, why weren’t they in Shusha defending their people ?

Jihadi Colin

For the same reason that they were keyboard warrioring here and refusing to answer the question of why they weren’t going to fight.

viktor ziv

Indeed mate… those are the same “money makes world go around” Armenians pretending to be patriotic. The very same Armenians calling Russians stinky, at the same time the very same Russians saved thousands Armenians with a pencil move.

JIMI JAMES

No one branded russia that,only homosexual soros bots trolled russians,either way
you lose the narrative,irrespective of speculations like soo lamestream like=you liar!

Captain Freedom

They are rioting because Pashinyan send 1000s of young men to die for nothing. Its clear that he never intended to win some war or recognonize the NK territories. And yet those people were told that everythings alright, that they’ll eventually win… This is about the traitor politicians, not the deal.

JIMI JAMES

No,its about smashiung the hell outta erm fake democratic sewer rats of the cias as class will prevail over the dorky mongrelbred fascists of the new world order banks:
Too bad freedom no longer is freedom,oh well,best pray for justice in usa electlions>

Fog of War

” Its clear that he never intended to win some war or recognonize the NK territories. ”

But why is the ultimate question.

Captain Freedom

It was never his purpose as a Soros agent, I think he was supposed to create as much instability as possible in the Caucasus. Just imagine, this could have been a lot worse: headchoppers infesting the region between Russia and Iran, a “betrayed” Armenia getting closer to NATO, absolutely no balance of power due to the neo-ottomans controlling the region and probably increased IDF activities. There was great potential for chaos in Pashinyans leadership.

SevenMoons

They want cheap “democracy”. Armenian streets are always safer than NK mountains.

hththny

why didn t Armenia recognize NK as part of it for 30 years?..?

Tchoutoye

Because NK was aligned with the People’s Republic of Kekistan and, as the old saying goes, the frenemy of my frenemy gets sloppy seconds.

hththny

Touche my nigga

catalin zt

They got aligned with the perverse Albionkhazarians in their ingnorance and look what happened!

catalin zt

Probabil pt ca asa a fost ordinul de la Mafia Cabala Mondiala ! Ma gandesc….

hththny

și acum dau vina pe ruși că i au “trădat”..bezna minții..

catalin zt

Marele Satan e cel mai subtil pervers inainte de toate…

Servet Köseoğlu

Another factor is the control of Russian border guards over the transport corridor between Azerbaijan and its Nakhchivan Autonomous Republic through southern Armenia, which was agreed as a part of the peace deal

This is the most strategic,important gain of Azerbaijan..Imo there was always tit for tat diplomacy between Turkey and Russia before the war..

SevenMoons

Yes. But this corridor is controlled by Russians. The route can be cut off at Russia’s pleasure…. This is why Turkey should be involved. Never trust Russians.

Servet Köseoğlu

İt has to be controlled by Russians not to trigger İran…Russia is playing guarantor role here..Ps:Well, Honestly after Usa-France Saudi arabia -Egypt -Uae show ı prefer Russia all the way..ı dont want to mention about long-term Russian policies via Turkey at Mediterranean region..Here today first reactor(320 tonnes) of Nuclear Power Plant at Akkuyu was bringed by Russians.. We must be grateful…
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Florin Boar

why people like you like the war?

Frank

Because they are paid trolls who spread propaganda, jingoism and lies.

PZIVJ

You make it so obvious that you are just a Turkish supported troll ! :0

Fog of War

No it cant, I’m sure thats part of the deal. Why would Turkey or Azerbajan agree to such ” Israhelli ” terms. This isnt Palestine.

Free man

The results of the negotiations could have been much worse for Armenia. Russia saved Armenia and prevented the killing of thousands of soldiers and civilians on both sides.
Armenia got part of Nagorno-Karabakh, which is an Azeri territory according to the whole world, including Armenia.
I thought there would be an Armenian withdrawal and an exchange of territories. Southern Armenia in exchange for Nagorno-Karabakh. But in the end Armenia got part of Nagorno-Karabakh and Azerbaijan got only a corridor in southern Armenia.

SnowCatzor

Still I think Armenia should held onto the 2 provinces between it and the NK region. They didn’t have to give that much away.

occupybacon

The kzar already spoken.

SevenMoons

No. That is not allowed. UNSC says Artskins must give back all occupied territories. No negotiation.

Frank

With Russia in charge, I doubt that will happen. Putin’s only game was to weaken Armenia and pry it from NATO aspirations and he will even leave a castrated Pashinyan in power at his feet. Only winner is Russia. Turkish economy is wrecked.

Frank

Frankly speaking, besides Azerbaijan controlling a few areas with massive casualties, what exactly has been achieved? Pashinyan is still there and handed over the region to Russia which is hardly a credible “peacekeeper” considering its record in Syria and 6 year old abyss. Let’s see how the dust settles.

JIMI JAMES

Point being one belt initiative will not be hindered there either,
by pro kweer/imf banksters nor its cia (anti democracy/voter fraudlent nazis of the goymz!

SevenMoons

Armenia could have negotiated a better deal if it was willing to negotiate. But Pashinyan said very clearly that he would not negotiate. Now Putin held a gun to his head and forced him to sign this “peace” deal. He can’t refuse.

Ashok Varma

More of a defeat for Azerbaijan in the long run as Russia now has total control over the region.

Fog of War

No they dont, while Turkey now has a land corridor to the Azeri autonomous zone.

John Brown

As part of the Russia, Turkey, Iran, Azer secret agreement Turkey will mow be leaving Idlib

Turkey Is Reducing Number Of Military Posts In Syria’s Greater Idlib

the start of November, the Turksih military has started reducing the
number of its military positions and observation posts in Syria’s
Greater Idlib:

As of November 10, Turkey stared evacuating its Sheikh Aqil observation post;

As of November 9, Turkey stared evacuating its Qabtan al-Jabal military post;

As of November 7, Turkey stared evacuating its Maar Hattat military post;

As of November 4, Turkey stared evacuating its Sher Mughar observation post;

As of November 3, Turkey evacuated its Morek observation post.

ESTARGON

You’re still far from reading some things.
The withdrawal of Turkish soldiers from that region has nothing to do with Karabakh.

Frank

Analysis: Putin draws Erdogan a red line on Russia’s southern flank with Karabakh deal and Turkish exclusion.

ESTARGON

You couldn’t have made all this up yourself. If Putin drew the red line, why are we in Ukraine, Syria, Azerbaijan and Libya?

goingbrokes

It’s good the Turks are dismantling those posts, but their tactical significance was already zero by virtue of being completely surrounded on all sides and some of them tens of kilometres deep. It’s more of a money saving exercise.

Frank

Russia controls everything now and is rearming the Armenians, this is far from over.

Ashok Varma

This is a strategic defeat for Azerbaijan and Turkey as they lost 7000-10000 men and achieved very little and seceded the region to Russia.

Jihadi Colin

I think you’ll find that, like Modi media claims of “Chinese casualties”, the number of “dead” suffered by both sides needs to be divided by at least ten to approximate the real figure.

Frank

Frankly, this has been a storm in a teacup and the most lies and absurd propaganda from both sides for 60 days and in the end an inclusive ceasefire. The total casualties on both sides are less than 2000 according to Human Rights watch.

Fog of War

How many died on the Armenian side ?

Frank

1200 according to Russian media which seems to be speaking for them.

ESTARGON

1,200+ registered soldiers, 2,500+ militia volunteers, 5,000 + wounded + 500 + missing = 9,200+ Armenian loses in total

Fog of War

” The results of the negotiations could have been much worse for Armenia. Russia saved Armenia ”
How ? Armenia was never under threat and NK was always considered Azeri lands.

Frank

Most of Karabakh is still in Armenian hands including the capital and Russia is rearming the Armenian military, so a very short “victory”.

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Free man

Armenia got part of Nagorno-Karabakh. Even though it was on the verge of defeat and was about to lose all the occupied territory. This is what the Armenians say themselves.
I would not be surprised if the shooting down of the Russian chopper forced Azerbaijan to agree to these terms.

Fog of War

” Even though it was on the verge of defeat and was about to lose all the occupied territory ”
My point exactly, the timing of the Helicopter shoot down is beyond suspect including the area where it was shot down, which was no where near the battle lines. There is some Machiavellian BS going on there and congratulating ” genius ” Putin on his master stroke is premature.

World_Eye

So Azerbaijan will take the whole Nagorno, hmm Putin came and gave the Nagorno to the Azeris WTF this is strange tho.

JIMI JAMES

Take thy eye outta own eye,before dare to accuse the most prudent and econimic efficient leader on earth,no future in fascim nor eternal debt,Ironicly Putin and XI are two leaders of class,whom failed to acknowledge lamestream medias choice who ewas elected,where in reality it’s we the peoples whom decide out fate,not the gimp.nor gump,nor slime nor phaedo
(reserve)

GuyQ

go and fight the Azeris yourself. Blame cia/soros facist for losing the war

World_Eye

HaH I don’t give a shit neither for Armenia or the Azerbaijan it is the Prime fucking bitch minister of Armenia’s fault for Nagorno no one else.

JIMI JAMES

Nwo nazis lose again,too bad the cia/soros facist kweers try to murder erdo,either way they shall not stop chinas belt initiaves,no matter what,they will simply be belted,nothing fancied lgbtq can do either,now imagine they get away with dudding democratic votes for the sake of incests and biden get’s in,either way nwo/globalist/phaedoreserve bankster scumtards will lose in the end (period)

Word deserves better than their begotten debt systems,mind you loan only to the scammers whom ripp off taxpayers and or hike up the prices over everything tenfold? Which p00f mocked Putin?
Oh I see,like that is it for the shameless desperatos whom ain’t goyt a clue about humanity nor will!

Me&Myself None

I don’t see how Russia gained or will gain anything after this, if anything I think it gained the despise of the Armenian people and the shame of the other countries that consider it a friend or ally. I won’t be surprised at all if Armenia soon asked Russian’s troop to leave Armenia, and soon invite NATO/US in.

Belarus the only ally Russia has left probably watching this and asking itself whether Russia is an ally it can trust.

JIMI JAMES

Iq of your shoesize,let me remind you gimp,the C.I.S is soviet not homosexuals property ok!
Now go back to that lice infested kweer bar of soros and save that crap for ye bumchums!
LOSER!

JIMI JAMES

Finally peace and resolution,now who on earth will complain about that,unless its a mental dyslexc pro lgbtq 21 gendered biden/soros supporter?Too bad losers,on you go,keep on losing then sukkrrr!

Johan

This is no more then a unconditional capitulation, but being butchered and left to die by the world was no solution either, time is gained to fight back now. Justice is not done and barbary is winning today but remember Turkey is the problem and time is on or side.

JIMI JAMES

Another drama dragqueen,each time you lose the narrative squeal,where in reality peace is getting addressed,sadly that won’t be the case in usa when its recounted biden to be illegit!
Hyppocrite,there is no reason to fightback,it was their turf to begin with,you cia/nwo muppet!

Johan

If you had any logic and rationality you would understand that, in order to stay within international law consequently ; north Cyprus should return to Greece Cyprus, Kosovo to Serbia as Karabakh should fall under Azerbaijan sovereignty. But I suppose you are Turkish of some kind and then logic and rationality are strange to you otherwise you would see where the Siltan brought you, see where you where and what you had before he came and now and I am not only talking of a lira that is 5 time less worth today, that are real facts showing the sultan with no cloths.

JIMI JAMES

And the lgbtq/soros trolls will squeal with gay abandone,using armenian as thy scapegoats?=FAIL!!
Peace is now on the menu,don’t wan’t it eat sht dementy queers,our world don’t belong to brussels!

SevenMoons

In the case of the goodwill posture by Azerbaijan and the Russian interest in the region, the remaining Armenian-populated Nagorno-Karabakh areas would have notable chances to resume their economic and social development as a factor of the permanent peace in the region.

It remains to be seen what those 50,000 Artskins can do in this remote mountain area. It is not cheap to feed those 2,000 Russians and the civilians. This is a huge liability.

PZIVJ

This area does have some farmland, it is not all mountains.
Do you know how to use world maps? :)

Bruno Gama

I hate to say I Told You So… Russia was just waiting I think this site doesn´t know Putin modus operandi… There was a bulls*** about Russia being “weak”… just like in February… when Putin baited Erdogan… Now Putin baited Aliyev, Erdogan and Pashinyan… War is more a matter of Strategy, than weapons and money… And Putin as long as I know, commited only one strategy flaw since the Chechen bombings in 1999. He didn´t do with Ukraine what he did with Lukashenko and Belarus in 2014… This is why the West hate so much Putin… Compared to the beloved drunkard Yelstin (may he rest in pisses!)

Bruno Gama

In February, Putin baited Erdogan in Idlib…

In October/November, Putin baited Erdogan, Aliyev and Pashinyan in Nagorno-Karabakh…
Now the Belarus, Moldova, Ukraine region is secured from NATO…
Now the entire Caucasus: Georgia, Azerbaijan and Armenia are secured from NATO…
NATO couldn´t accept a country with territorial disputes, and with Russian troops on It…

Russia wouldn´t accept any further NATO advancements close to it´s borders…

No Wonder why Putin is so hated by the West… the Euro-Atlantic hates everyone that dare to oppose then…
And Putin is adversarial and almost strategic flawless…

A Biden government will be an easy prey… unless, of course, Obama came in…and stop the madness of confronting Russia on it´s own backyard… But i doubt it. Russia have means to wipe out the entire Euro-Atlantic order… and will continue to have this in the years to come.

For Those in here cheering for the “Fake” President Trump, are forgetting how he was confrontational with Russia. Enlarging NATO, augmenting exercises and budgets… Trump is no friend of Russia.

Washington, Brussels and Strasbourg continue to be arrogant, and continue to loose…
The next years promisse an even stronger Russian Army, and specially Strategic Doctrine.

And a Waked Up China, that finally have transformed it´s policy into a Militaristic One… A Country with the World largest GDP, will have the largest Army…

In this I have to Thank Trump… Thanks for the Legacy in making the Chinese Hawks, instead of the Doves they were!

Ivan Freely

Let’s hope those Chinese hawks aren’t imperialistic like the US / Zion.

Jihadi Colin

Well, yes, Putin scuppered Pashinyan’s NATO plans by allowing Armenia to keep a scrap of Nagorno Karabakh. I don’t know if the Ottomans can be evicted from Azerbaijan though. That’s a much more difficult thing to do.

Ronald

“Unless of course Obama came in”. Sleepy Joe won’t be running the show, but the Black Knight Obama certainly will. A Biden government will be an Obama # , of course he’ll be crowned as the new head of NSA or State Dept.. He is much more of a war hawk than Trump, and i”m not trying to suggest Trump’s a good guy.

Nebojsa

There is one very important topic only a few referred to. How many Armenians will remain in that kind of reservation / bantustan within Azerbaijan? Many of them have already left to Armenia. Artsakh has always been a poor area. Now that area is becoming economically unsustainable and surrounded from all sides by enemy territory. In fact, the Armenians will have some formal autonomy, but due to the difficult living conditions, the area will soon be empty. The Russian army will guard the abandoned territory. Turkey and Azerbaijan have acted wisely. They did not embarrass Russia to the end and gave it a symbolic role. They did not commit mass crimes against the civilian population and thus escaped international condemnation. Therefore, Turkey and Azerbaijan achieved not only a military, but also a great diplomatic victory. This war did not last long and the interest of foreign media will soon be lost.

angrycitizen

There are now angry mobs going around in Armenia, carrying a nylon rope and looking to bring Pashinyan to the nearest tree.

PZIVJ

Armenian govt put out a lot of propaganda saying that the N-K conflict was not going so bad. And now this surprise! I can understand why there are many “angrycitizens”.

Jihadi Colin

Yes, until the end of last week the Armenian people were still under the impression that they still held Hadrut and Fuzuli, that they’d recover whatever little they’d lost, and that the Pashinyan regime was actually invested in winning the war. That was when their volunteers were training with wooden guns, which should have tipped them off that something was gigantically wrong with the official story. Then suddenly out of the blue they were told that Azeris were five kilometres from Shusha, then that the Azeris had been repelled from the town, then that the Azeris had taken the town, then after the surrender they discover that the Azeris had taken Shusha a day before Aliev had even claimed to, and that the Pashinyan regime had been lying to them all the way.

No wonder they’re angry. Now the task of the Pashinyan regime is to deflect the anger towards Russia, and the Armeniganda online is already hard at work to achieve that.

goingbrokes

P is a globalist traitor, and I’m convinced he was put in position to achieve just what has happened. Azeris had Turks and jihadsts from Idlib assisting (representing the “rules based order” that NATO loves so much), but P didn’t even send Armenian forces to help. This was capitulation by default, and a betrayal of Armenian people. They learned from Syria that a good national leader can keep things together even when things are dire, so a stooge leader was installed to ensure the smooth progress of NWO.

Ivan Freely

I hope they find him.

Konrad Ingvarssen

So the areas that Armenians still control and that are not going to be turned over to Azerbaijan will have Russian peacekeepers. Maybe I missed it in the article, but is this territory going to become part of Armenia or stay its own independent state, now presumably internationally recognized? Azerbaijan seems to have conceded that it will not control some of the disputed territory, which surprises me given the fact they have won so comprehensively. Will Russia guarantee the security of the part of the disputed territory still in Armenian control after this treaty is implimented? This could be either be covered by its current treaty with Armenia or as part of one with a new state that is created there if that happens?

Whacko

Russia guarantees the security of the disputed territory for only 5 years, after which Azeris will probably make it its territory. I guess so.

Lazy Gamer

February in Idlib, May? in Libya, and September in NK. Give it a few months, either one of these spots will continue or Turkey might hit on some islands. Where else can Turkey hit? Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Yemen, Kashmir, xinjiang? lol

Ashok Varma

People are giving Turkey too much credit, this is hardly a clear cut victory as despite overwhelming military superiority they still could not conquer the capital Stepankert and had to agree to Russian terms for ceasefire. It also shows that Turkey would not fare well against a sizeable enemy like Greece or even Syria and Iraq.

Fog of War

BS, the full might of the Turkish was hardly involved here. It was mainly the inexperienced Azeri forces which hadn’t been involved in a conflict in 30 years and had to fight a well entrenched enemy in a mountainous region. Any attacking force would have a challenge doing this and would incur many casualties, that includes Russia and the US. Most of you folks are severely lacking in military science and tactics.

Lone Ranger

In Idlib Turkey pushed really hard but was no match for the Russian aerospace forces and air defenses.

Fog of War

We’re talking about attacking well fortified mountainous regions in NK, but thanks for playing.

Jon

As I said a month ago when I observed that Putin castled king side when the first “cease fire” occurred, albeit briefly: “It [Russia] needs a line of control frozen, ala Sirte or Hwy 4. These LC’s freeze Turkey expansion and spare Russia having to throw down.” So here we go again, Russia and Turkey will enforce the current line of control in N-K. In this fascinating push and shove between Russia and Turkey, Turkey will have to find a new front. But please note that each time Turkey flexes and gains ground, even marginally, (Syria, Libya, A-K), the new Ottoman Empire gains traction. It’s natural expansion is through Turkmen territories east of AZ, all the way to China. Watch the Uyger connection.

Lone Ranger

Russia is love Russia is life ?

Lone Ranger

A friend in need is a friend indeed.

Random Dude

Operation Ring 2.0.
Booyakasha!!!

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