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The decision of the Trump administration announced on 15 August that it is deploying another 1,000 troops to Poland pursuant to a new defence cooperation agreement signed on the anniversary of the victory of Poland in the Polish-Soviet war of 1920 reflects the US intention to locate a string of strategic offensive and defensive military infrastructure along Russia’s western border, from Norway in the far north to the Black Sea countries in the south.

Poland Takes Centre Stage In ‘New Cold War’ Strategy

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The establishment and steady expansion of major military bases and logistics and operations hubs located along Russia’s western border is accompanies by an increase in strategic long-range strike exercises and drills involving bombers and submarines operating alone or jointly with other NATO countries or non-NATO partners such as Ukraine.

In an analysis of the broader geopolitical context of the move, Covert Action Magazine notes that the 1,000 military personnel to be deployed to Poland will be added to the 4,500 that were previously deployed by President Barack Obama following the 2014 Western-backed coup d’état in Ukraine and the Russian reunification with Crimea.

Poland Takes Centre Stage In ‘New Cold War’ Strategy

President Duda poses with Polish and US soldiers participating in military exercises called ‘DEFENDER-Europe 20’

As part of the defence cooperation agreement, Poland has agreed to host forward elements of the U.S. Army’s V Corps headquarters, which the Polish foreign minister called “the most important U.S. command centre on NATO’s eastern flank.”

The most recent events are a part of the strategic shift of successive US administrations moving the core military installations and activities of NATO from Paris and Bonn – what Donald Rumsfeld referred to as ‘old Europe’ – to the East, in accordance with a broader plan to forge alliances with and gain military control over as many of the countries of the former Soviet Union as possible, in Central and Eastern Europe as well as in Central Asia.

Poland Takes Centre Stage In ‘New Cold War’ Strategy

‘Defender Europe 20’ US-led NATO military exercises

Both the Obama and Trump administrations have poured weapons into Eastern Europe, accompanied by the establishment of forward-deployed US troops and military installations and integrated with ongoing programs of military training and military exercises.

The shift of US military hardware and activities eastwards  is part of an attempt to resurrect the Intermarium—a geopolitical concept originating in the post-World War I era that envisages an alliance of countries reaching from the Baltic Sea over the Black Sea to the Aegean Sea that would serve as an alternative power bloc between Germany and Russia.

Poland Takes Centre Stage In ‘New Cold War’ Strategy

NATO membership and expansion

The term Intermarium was used by former United States Army Europe (USAREUR) commander General Ben Hodges to describe the US strategy for Central and Eastern Europe, before being revived on a much broader scale by the ruling Polish Party of Law and Justice as well as by Ukrainian far-right movements in the wake of the 2014 coup in Ukraine.

In 2019, the US Army began rotational deployment of an armoured brigade combat team to Poland while the Pentagon prepositioned equipment for an MQ-9 Reaper drone squadron there.

In March 2018, Poland signed a $4.75 billion deal to purchase US Patriot missile defence systems from Raytheon, the largest arms procurement deal in Polish history.

At the signing ceremony, Polish President Andrzej Duda stated that the historic moment was “Poland’s introduction into a whole new world of state-of-the art technology, modern weaponry and defensive means.”

Russia responded to the Patriot deal by upgrading its own nuclear arsenal and shifting strategic assets westwards, including the deployment of Iskander short-range nuclear capable missiles in Kaliningrad, a 5,800-square-mile Russian exclave wedged between Poland and Lithuania.

One of the features of the first Cold War was the US alliance with conservative and extreme right-wing factions, including those with Nazi collaborationist ties. The new Cold War, unfortunately, is shaping up to be little different, as the US is again forming alliances with far right governments and political factions in the region against Russia.

Polish President Andrzej Duda is a leader of the right-wing Law and Justice Party, which has been criticized for tightening government control over the media and promoting the repression of political opponents and critics.

Duda has also been accused of promoting a right-wing revisionism surrounding World War II. In 2018, Duda signed a law playing down the Polish role in the Nazi Holocaust,  banning people from accusing Poland of Holocaust atrocities committed by the Nazis and from referring to concentration camps as ‘Polish death camps’.

The Duda administration has made a point of glorifying Polish resistance to the Nazis, but has underplayed Polish crimes like at Jedwabne in July 1941, where Poles rounded up and killed their Jewish neighbours.

The Jedwabne pogrom was an atrocity committed on July 10, 1941, during the German occupation of Poland in World War II. Described as a massacre or a pogrom by postwar historians, it resulted in the death of at least 340 Polish Jews of all ages, locked in a barn which was later set on fire. A group of 23 Polish males was involved, after being summoned in Jedwabne by a German paramilitary group known as the Ordnungspolizei.

Duda has also promoted stringent anti-communism campaign whose supporters have demolished numerous Soviet-era monuments dedicated to the heroic Red Army, while Nazi collaborators are presented as ‘patriots’ and ‘heroes’. Duda in fact signed a law banning all references to communism.

Given this position, it is no surprise that Poland has been active in the movement to oust Alexander Lukashenko  following contested elections in Belarus. Polish and Western media have been strongly promoting and supporting pro-Western opposition figures, hoping to capitalize on the political and social turmoil in the country to install a pro-West, anti-Russia transition regime. Nexta Live, an online television station presenting minute-by-minute updates on the protests in Belarus, operates out of Poland.

A Polish Special Forces unit that specializes in psychological operations has been involved in coordinating what some analysts are referring to as the ‘Belomaidan protests’ in Bydgoszez, whose supporters endorsed the Intermarium, or alliance of Eastern European countries against Russia.

When the BBC interviewed a photo-journalist who had been arrested by Lukashenko’s police, he happened to be a Pole with a neo-Nazi background.

The bottom line is that the US military alliance with Poland is helping to prop up an increasingly authoritarian right-wing regime which is also seeking to encourage and intensify hostile attitudes and actions against Russia. LINK

To the far north, Norway has also been increasingly incorporated into the string of geostrategic military infrastructure and operations stretching along Russia’s western frontier since around 2016, serving as an operational base for much more frequent  visits by US strategic nuclear submarines, substantially increasing the number of US troops and hardware stationed there, and participating much more actively in US-led NATO war games.

To the south, Ukraine has also substantially increased its active participation in NATO aerial and naval war games around the Black Sea as well as opening its airspace to US/ NATO long-range strategic bombers in joint military drills together with most of the other Black Sea nations, some of which also host US missile defence installations. The US has operated an Aegis Ashore missile interception system in Romania since 2016. LINK

To the extent that US-led NATO forces continue their concentration on Russia’s borders, the NATO countries can expect Russia to deploy more of its forces in positions where they can launch rapid attacks against European countries perceived as threats, and the US can expect more large-scale Russian military exercises and manoeuvres involving strategic strike forces close to Alaska such as those that were held last month. Given the corresponding US military encirclement of China, China may be encouraged to participate in such military activities in the future.

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Jens Holm

Thats a higly biased version and the map too.

Much as Russia prefare to regain the Molotov-Ribbetrop pact:)

Lone Ranger

You spelled the U.S./UK/Ukropisstan and the Munich Agreement wrong Trollstoy…

Jens Holm

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Maybee I speak and the computers spell and I should remove my toothbrush – Or maybee I dont care.

Lone Ranger

Thats a cute pic about you Jens?

Jens Holm

Yes, wife pedicure. They have one foot each.

Lone Ranger

He is the worst LSD abuser in Denmark…

Jens Holm

Maybee. We see You like this: comment image

Lone Ranger

Thats your bathroom mirror Jens…

Jens Holm

Maybee.

Jens Holm

We are not one. and well represented in the stocmarket.

We are paid every time we make people angry or cry. We are doing fine and are making more chidren. We will raise them well to by free education dind their skills and pay them pr hour.
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Servet Köseoğlu

Masochist Poland makes his choice again..Eternal victim..
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Sauron

thats what happens when you don’t have mountains

Servet Köseoğlu

a war at east europe,baltık will be perfect…it will drain resources of both sides..

HiaNd

Keep dreaming Turk.
There will be no war between Russia and NATO because all this is just posturing (just like Turkey does at the moment with Greece)
If the WW3 starts that will be the end of us all including Turkey.

Servet Köseoğlu

unfortunately but just short conventional war limited at east-europe is my dream..

Nosferatu

Unfortunately (for you) it is Turkey now, who made so many bad moves, it can loose its statehood. Turkey has more fronts open than Hitler did. You guys are fighting in Lybia, Syria, Greece and Cyprus, while alienating both NATO (US and France) and Russia (with your Syrian double sided game). This will not end well for you. Perhaps Constantinopol will be liberated again.

HiaNd

Erdogan is chameleon and opportunist (that is trade mark of Turks).

He is capable to turning into anything and taking any side in the last moment if he is convinced that is in interest of his ambitions.
Turkey can’t stay forever on the crossroads and in-between two blocks, because they are bound to lose the most in the case of any spontaneous starting of even bigger conflicts in the region

Servet Köseoğlu

bring it on comment image

HiaNd

“bring it on” ???!!
And you are already in the middle of the conflicts?!
In that case Greece even France will get involved and you will be way above your head in trouble!
In that situation EVERYBODY will be opportunist and attack you including SAA , all Syrian and Iraqi Kurds, general Haftar, Egypt and even Russia will shoot down your F-16 if they intrude in Syrian air space.

There are no “friends” between countries only INTERESTS !

occupybacon

The F-16 pilot that took down the Russian plane was arrested in the coup against Erdogan

HiaNd

You actually confuse 2 pilot’s.

The pilot from the “coup” have bombed Turk parliament palace (or Erdogan’s residence I don’t remember any longer) He was arrested and trailed.

While the pilot who shot down Russian bomber was arrested and trailed also. And not only him but also commander of the Turkic terrorist’s group (Turk citizen) in Syria who have killed Russian pilot from that bomber was also arrested and trailed.

occupybacon

I don’t confuze anything, the pilot who downed the Russian plane was arested after the coup together with other pilots. Not because he shot at Russian plane(at least not officially). I also kniw about the turkmen that killed the pilit and bragged with that.

As for the rest, I doubt that USA wants to start a war between NATO and Russia, they could have done it long time ago if they really wanted it.

Servet Köseoğlu

it was all nato-cia set-up..

Jens Holm

No, they were helped. They had nothing against a whole Russian Empire and ots remaining strength. Normal talk and negosiation was not even an option.

We see exact the same for Syria. Contact to the poertfull and well armed Governess was as talking to a TV.

occupybacon

If it was, there is a chance soon you wish they succeeded. I give it over 50%

Cromwell

Its about time Russia caused a few quagmires for the Americans.

HiaNd

Americans are already forever in Afghanistan….
MIC and Pentagon are doing excellent jobs to keep America in permanent useless wars.
I doubt that Russia would be able to do it any better than that.

Nosferatu

funny you.

Servet Köseoğlu

you are the funny one bub,,,shallow comment..Turkey has more fronts open than Hitler didwhat did we do attack with anyone else with 165 divisions? Perhaps Constantinopol will be liberated againforget it already..ı know you have a hurt but all your sentences with İstanbul are like productions from turn-bench same size,same color..it can loose its statehoodbe precise how can we loose our statehood?

Nosferatu

well its clear you dont know anything about global politics. It can have a great consequences if you manage to create eneies out of all your neighbours, while losing NATO support and Russian partnership. Your army is big, but not that big. Thre was a few times already when UK stoped Russians from taking Constantinopol (last time in 1917), but maybe this time there will not be such force.

Jens Holm

I only see You as Turkey make more enemies.

Expanding might be the easy part. Keep and keep in a productive phase is much more difficult.

HiaNd

So keep dreaming
There is no such thing as “conventional war” option between US-NATO against Russia-China

Jens Holm

It never will be short. Both has a lot of reserves in the hinterland.

Are You in building costruction or undertaker?

Servet Köseoğlu

read caredully,short and conventional just to see possibilities of sides.

Jens Holm

Thats act one – the surprice. Number two is extra troops. Dividing Eatern Europe is Poland and the rest of the dividings are no options anymore.

Russia did twice and they did it very bad hardly making any improvements. Thats what I think I see.

Lone Ranger

Not really.
Russia would take the Baltics in 72 hours.
Poland in a month.
Brussels in 2 months.
According to Pentagon…

occupybacon

That’s why MDA exists and USA keeps military in all these countries.

Lone Ranger

U.S. in in Syria as well and they are losing.
They arent totally retarded, wing risk WWIII, especially when they are the culprits.
Didn’t happen in Korea nor Vietnam nor Georgia.

Jens Holm

So who are the winners. I see none. But Trump is smiling.

Not bad Turks, Assads, the Jihadist, Russian generals and SDFs are killing each other. And ISIS contributing is fun too as long as they dont come to USA.

Lone Ranger

Syria is winning and the Syria people.

Jens Holm

As Syrian in Trukey, Lebanon, Jordan and Europe says.

We lost Our country and got a tent – hip hip.

Lone Ranger

You mean your jihadi buddies in isis camps.

Jens Holm

2 of the 3 millions in Turkey fleed from ISIS. Most of the rest dont feel themself affiliated with any jihadisme, but the dont support Assads at all.

Lone Ranger

You are either with Assad or CIAisis.

Lone Ranger

P.S. Russia would only steamroll these countries in case they attack Russia.

Jens Holm

We dont have thise russian propaganda intensions at all. It probatly would not be a learner fro You if we printet it out, rolled it up and injekted You with it by Your behind.

Lone Ranger

Pentagon is spreading Russian propaganda…?
You better call your local soros NGO…

occupybacon

I bet some emo kids dream Estonia will attack Russia or some stupid ass scenario just because they are too pussy to slit off their veins and they would rather die in something very important together with millions. Usually they obsess about Russian weapons specs around here.

Lone Ranger

Projection.
Thats ha ukropnazis and balticnazis think.

occupybacon

Then ztop projecting

Lone Ranger

Indeed you should :)

occupybacon

I’m not pasionate about big guns specs and I don’t imagine a war between Russia and NATO.

Lone Ranger

Me either.

occupybacon

Any secret weapons Russia has that can obliterate USA before Trump pressing the red button? :))

Lone Ranger

They dont need secret weapons for that, the one we already know about can do it easily.
Trump wont nuke Russia.
He likes slavic people.
His main focus is China right now.

occupybacon

Will Trump nuke China?

Lone Ranger

I hope not.

Lone Ranger

Indeed, you should…

Jens Holm

I see no reasons for that. Many there are poor for many good and bad reasons.

It makes me sad they dont solve their disputes. Mabee it would make sense You went to Syria and was spendable there supporting the Turkish military complexisities:)

Jens Holm

Thats only partly correct. They have a long line of mountains into Tjekkia named Tatrus mountains. An poland has a lot of well know wetland, which today is known as Mazurian Lake districts as well as well as swamps.

Jens Holm

Yes, thats a very important choise. The election was a great succes even I dont like the winners very much.

Sauron

Cold War 2.0 western front. No matter how long it takes, economy and size will play its role

HiaNd

Since US economy is in very big trouble and society is on verge of civil war.
And since all US economy and specially Wall street is rigged.
We can only wait for implosion of the dollar “to decide” the winner.
I will let you supporter of NATO to guess who that might be.

Sauron

“Since US economy is in very big trouble and society is on verge of civil war.”:))))) 80 years same story, and same people believing in those Soviet fairy tales. Well, you can take a person from Soviet Union, you cannot take Soviet Union from the person.

HiaNd

Whatever. I was not even trying to convince you or anybody else.
That is well acknowledged FACT among the experts on economy.
But published only in INDEPENDENT MEDIA and foreign press not controlled by and out of reach from US censorship.

US is now Soviet Union spending to the last cent on weapons while on the verge of total collapse of the dollar and implosion of US economy.
With every day more homeless and hungry with every day riots on the streets!
Do stuck your stupid head deep up your NATO ass you effing delusional idiot !

Sauron

Soviet media was a propaganda. And propaganda is a one way information channel. Doesn’t really work in a comment section:))) The way propaganda can react to a comment or criticism is to just keep repeating the same message. But the effect wears off then.

Dawn

Thats exactly what you are doing sunshine..

Sauron

Only after you. Since you are dawn and i am sunshine:)))

Lone Ranger

U.S. media is worse than Soviet propaganda was.
Just look at Vietnam or Central and South America…

Sauron

I talking about Soviet Media. What does US media have to do with it?

Lone Ranger

A coin has two sides.
If you want to get the full story you have to observe both sides objectively.

Sauron

If you want to get the full story you shouldn’t listen to propaganda at all. Regardless 2 sides, 3 sides, 10 sides, none.

Lone Ranger

You can learn a lot from lies…

Sauron

i can’t maybe you can. good luck

Sauron

Lies are not to be learned from

Lone Ranger

Wrong.
You have to read between the lies.
You watch the news in CNN, than on Fox you get the picture pretty good.

Sauron

that will only serve your confirmation bias.

Lone Ranger

Did papa soros tell you that?
Only his propaganda phamplets are the Truth, nothing else…
Try harder…

Sauron

mama Zakharova said, with one leg naked on the other

Lone Ranger

Hi papa Soros…

Sauron

hi

Lone Ranger

☢️☣️⚠️

Sauron

feel free to pick and choose from news that best fits your narrative to sleep better at night. it will still not become the truth. it will be your truth, but not actual truth

Lone Ranger

There is a thing called objective Truth…
The more you listen to liars the easier is to see through them.
They are a one trick pony…

Sauron

oh thats why u r in SF. now it makes sense

Lone Ranger

SouthFront is a lot better than Soros news…

Sauron

you have your own brain. no one says take for the face value

Lone Ranger

That was very Jens like…

Sauron

anytime

HB_Norica

“Soviet media was a propaganda. And propaganda is a one way information channel.”

US media is owned by 15 rich individuals …. the same 15 individuals are among the elite few who fund the campaigns and write the legislation for every federally elected politician in the USA through their corporate interests …. and you think it’s the other guy who’s spreading lies and propaganda.

Jens Holm

Well go on with Your systematic madness. By that You say 15 different oppinions are allowed. Dont You??

And…You can write in at comment most of them and dont get jailed, because there are rules for that and a few restrictions only. Those 15 sometimes den to take in articles and opponions by them.

Sovjet and fx Turkey is noty like that at all. Erdogan having parlamentarisme even have blamed the Danish Goverment for not cotrolling the press.

China and India has same kind of demands about things we can think and express here in Denmark.

Denmark also is famous for bringing Muhammed cartoopns in an uunsmart way. That was done by muslim medias and again and again. Even the danish embassy in Damaskus was damged hard by paid demonstraters.

Russia dont renew themselves by romoving all oppinions for improvements. Thats what I see and make small comments abut here and there.

Russia to me Is like the last many years of the infected communisme. Men grows older and older and more and more experianced about good old days – But at the same time they become seniles more and more.

“we knocked Out the Hitler Nazis at Kursk and will do it with Merkel too”. So the dreams are more upgrading of the T90`s or something and people after 100 year will change and work harder and better in the same low livingstandards, so they can effort more them 20 Armatas next time some shermans attack from Kharkow and Minsk.

No one want to attack Russia. The ,main problems are topo many lazy bum Russians. We not even need Belarus. We already has the many other leftevers from the collpased neocolonialisme including DDR.

E even hear we steal from someone, which has nothing none will take.

HB_Norica

“By that You say 15 different oppinions are allowed. Dont You??”

No my friend that’s not what I’m saying at all. watch this to the end then see if you want to continue with your argument about “opinions”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=487CRdRHEeI

HB_Norica

Well go on with Your systematic madness. By that You say 15 different oppinions are allowed. Dont You??

Notice how they’re all different networks https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=_fHfgU8oMSo

Fog of War

” No one want to attack Russia. ”
You are wrong.

Lone Ranger

U.S. economy was never in such trouble as it is today.
Its not Soviet nostalgy, the U.S. is the new crumbling Soviet Union…

Sauron

Its just covid. it will bounce back

Lone Ranger

Covid is only the icing on the cake.
It was in ruins before that.
Like the final blow to the Soviet economy was Chernobyl.

Sauron

Economy of USSR just like its propaganda (including wishful predictions of competitors’ doom) was a fake bubble. Chernobyl or not, it was going to go down regardless.

Lone Ranger

Same as the U.S. economy…
Not everything was fake, their military and infrastructure projects were impressive even by U.S. standards at the time.

Sauron

There is no curtain. Some countries remain under curtain even after the leave USSR. its like a curse.

Lone Ranger

Only if they have a crappy economy like Ukraine.
It also doesnt help to be the most corrupt countries in Europe.
CIA and the EU havent realized yet that its a black hole, no matter how much money you dump in it.

Sauron

true that

Sauron

i was talking about the big elephant in the room, but sure Ukraine is no better

Sauron

US might be the next Soviet Union if it gets into competition with China and we talk about it in 20 years. Not now, not by Russia. Russian economy is smaller than New York:)))

Lone Ranger

Russian economy is the 5th largest by GDP ppp, with low debt and high Forex reserves.
U.S. already lost the race against China.
They only havent realized it yet.
Whole U.S. exports less than small Germany.
New York stock exchange is smoke and mirrors.
You really belive Facebook is worth $200billion.
FED is handing free money to Fortune 500 companies whom than are buying up their own stocks propping up the price than reselling them creating debt bubbles and virtual profit.
Debt is $24trillion, but the derivative bubble is around $800trillion, when it pops and it will, it will make the 2008 melt down look like a walk in the park.

Sauron

things worth as much as others are prepared to pay for it. non international currencies go up and down based on what people in that community do with it. sell and buy USD then it will go down. But it and save it then it will go down. If a country’s residents don’t believe in its value others won’t. That pretty much explains the volatility of currency market and can apply to stock exchange as well.

HiaNd

You have already LOST not only economic competition but any possible war against Russia and China…You just do not know that yet !

Sauron

Me? I lost a war? I haven’t even fought in war:)))

cechas vodobenikov

the bigger they r the harder they fall—US empire last phase Jameson, Orlov….Galtung has employed 15 mathematical indices to predict the demise of the US empire in less than 10 years…USA irrelevant except to the small weak nations it invades

Sauron

reading Soviet papers again.:))) Nostalgic innit?

Lone Ranger

This time the U.S. is the Soviet Union…

Sauron

And Russia is New York:))))

Lone Ranger

New York was always a shithole.

Sauron

Which is why lots of New Yorkers moved to Moscow. Oh wait, wasn’t it the other way around?:)))

Lone Ranger

Its still a shithole.
Most of the oligarchs were jewish and the biggest jewish community is in New York in the U.S.
They feel well protected there.
Thats all.

Sauron

why wouldn’t they feel protected in Moscow. isn’t is a safe city?

Lone Ranger

Not if you have stolen tens of $billions and want to get away with it.

Sauron

So if Voldemort prevails, now current thiefs will run. Lucky US, collecting all the green:)))

Lone Ranger

$ will be worthless.
Only gold, silver, oil, rare earth minerals, sweet water reservoirs, thats the cash of the 21st century.
You will see it pretty soon.

Sauron

Crypto man. that is the future. lucky me, i bought before the boom.

Lone Ranger

Its too volatile.
The golden rule is that gold rules.
Aside from that most people dont know whats behind crypto currencies.

Sauron

gold is old

Lone Ranger

It never gets old.
Thats why most countries whom can afford it are hoarding it.

Sauron

all currencies are free of gold. including your country

Lone Ranger

Moving back to gold standard…

Sauron

yet they work as uber drivers:)))

Lone Ranger

Unlikely.
Those are ukropnazis.
Same in Canada.

Sauron

not those that i saw:)))

Lone Ranger

They lie about it tho :)
Most ukrops are ashamed of their heritage.
Same as many Americans will say abroad they are Canadians…

Sauron

That is what you claim

Lone Ranger

Objective Truth.

Sauron

so you say

Lone Ranger

You can check everything I say…

Sauron

you can provide sources if your would like

Lone Ranger

About what?
For example…

Sauron

i don’t know you so am not interesting in fact-checking you

Lone Ranger

Than thats another magic wand moment from you…

Sauron

have you met them?:))))

Lone Ranger

Online I have.
Are you one of them?

Sauron

you meet with uber drivers online?:)))

Lone Ranger

Ukropnazis in general.
Most “Russians” in the west are actually Ukrops, with the exception if some Russian jews in Israel and oligarchs.

Sauron

Russians are dills? why would you say that? most I met were decent human beings.

Lone Ranger

Ukropnazis…*

Sauron

Russians are dillnazis?

Lone Ranger

Ukropnazis are Russians in denial…

Sauron

I don’t see a reason they would hide it

Lone Ranger

I would.
Ukraine is the shithole of Europe.
U.S. is a hated country…

Sauron

again memory span of a fish. reminding what we were talking about. Russian Uber drivers in NYC. Not Europe, NYC. Not outside US, NYC.

Lone Ranger

They arent Russian, but ukrop.
Try to focus…

Sauron

Dill? Russians are nice people, dont call them dill

Lone Ranger

Ukrops…*

Sauron

dills?

Sauron

or coppers

Lone Ranger

What about cops?

Sauron

russian immigrants as coppers. get 26k per year be almost poor, still better than back on mazalend:)))

Lone Ranger

Did you read that in a Disney story…?
Or another Soros hit piece…

Sauron

Incomparable it is. Would be a good stand up comedy to compare those cities:)))

Lone Ranger

Why would it be incompatible.
New York would lose badly on all fronts.
Its also smaller than Moscow.

Sauron

you are on a different level of ignorance:)))

Lone Ranger

Indeed you are.

Sauron

you mate you. different pronouns

Lone Ranger

Dont be so hard to yourself…

Sauron

not “hard to yourself” but “hard on yourself”:))))

Lone Ranger

Both is correct.
Adide from that grammar is changing all the time.
Most Americans cant tell the difference between there/their and our/are…

Sauron

not “Adide” but “Aside”, i assume.

Lone Ranger

Thats a typo…
Are you really going to be a grammar nazi now…?
You made a number of mistakes already…

Sauron

oh i thought it was some word i didn’t know, my bad:))))

Sauron

im not talking about american education level

Lone Ranger

You should, they are your liblings…

Sauron

maybe i should but im not.

Sauron

what is liblings?

Lone Ranger

Fav people in german.

Sauron

oh ok…?

Sauron

Moscow is better than New York, yeah right:))))

Lone Ranger

Indeed it is.
Bigger, more advanced, better infrastructre, no getthoes, brand new business center.
Its also more cosmopolitan.
Have you ever been to you New York?
I was there, twice, worst city I have ever visited.
Shitty towns in the countryside felt better than that nightmare.

Sauron

Can neither confirm nor deny that I have been in both cities. Moscow bites the dust in front of NYC. Only traffic is worse in NY than Moscow, but still both suck.

Lone Ranger

Moscow is lightyears ahead of New York.
In fact almost every major city is ahead of New York.
Only thing they are good at is PR and movies.

Sauron

lightyear is a distance not time:))))

Lone Ranger

Indeed.
NY is sofar behind they would need a warp drive to catch up. ;)

Sauron

development cannot be measured by distance. time, perhaps somehow you could. but distance, that is a no no

Lone Ranger

Sure it can.
You too are behind the curve…

Sauron

prove it

Lone Ranger

I already did. :)

Sauron

nope. you didn’t.

Lone Ranger

Yes I did.

Sauron

somewhere else perhaps. you are welcome to copy paste here

Lone Ranger

Try to focus…

Sauron

btw im not atlking about the beauty of the city. I don’t like grid cities anyways. but living standards

Lone Ranger

Moscow has better livingstandards.
At least on avg.
No getthoes…

Sauron

You are thinking Rio, im talking about NYC vs Moscow:)))) its even funny to write vs in this case:)))

Lone Ranger

Indeed its funny.
Even Rio beats NY.

Sauron

Moscow is so behind cant compare

Lone Ranger

You spelled ahead wrong tho…

Sauron

nope

Lone Ranger

Yep

Sauron

How big is Moscow gdp, remind me:))))

Lone Ranger

Bigger than the fake GDP of NY.
QE Unlimited…

Sauron

source:))))????

Lone Ranger

FED…
QE Unlimited…

Fog of War

Who mainly resides in US ghettos ?

Lone Ranger

Poor U.S. citizens whom cant afford to leave.

Fog of War

I guess Russia has no poor citizens then. Must be nice to only have a middle and upper class.

Lone Ranger

P.S. CIA/MI6 started to kill them one by one in recent years, you know during economic hardship dog eats dog, at least in London and New Xork, they kill them and steal their money, they already started flocking back to Russia for protection.
Putin is ok with that but there are two conditions, one they have to serve Russia as a good Patriot would do.
Second the money they sole from the Russian people in the 90s will be taxed by the Russian state.

Sauron

ahahaa. good one. NKVD style.

Lone Ranger

indeed, CIA/MI6 has sunk deep.

Sauron

do you have the link for the trailer? i bet it will hit well

Lone Ranger

Watch the Bourne movies, comes pretty close to reality…

Sauron

thats where u get your inspiration?:)))

Lone Ranger

No, they get theirs from reality.
MKultra…

Sauron

you mate you. still different

Lone Ranger

Not really.

Sauron

English class level 2. Help yourself:)))

Lone Ranger

My english is just fine, thanks.

Sauron

anytime

Sauron

that movie is about me. my name is Ascshf LSHTSHFUM

Lone Ranger

?

Sauron

true that. shhhht

Sauron

glad you compared it that way:)))

Sauron

Too soon mate. lets talk about it in 20 years

Lone Ranger

The writing is on the wall…
Facts dont lie.

Sauron

Fact is about history, hence something that already happened. Something you expect in future is not a fact, you can call it prediction, fortune, expectation, guess. but not a fact

Lone Ranger

U.S. never was in such dire situation not even during the great depression.

Sauron

Same wishful thinking for 80 years. never gets old I guess. and when someone says that well how about us? Medvedev will come saying, “well there is no money, but you hold on”:)))) Not a country but a comedy show, with dumb audience:))

Lone Ranger

Like I said you cant relate to the past on this one, since it never happened before.
Russia is fine, they have a trade surplus if $200billion a year, low debt around 12% debt to GDP ratio and $600billion in Forex reserves.
C

Sauron

Check the Soviet newspapers on how “tomorrow US will collapse”, that tomorrow never came though. you are repeating the same news, but the tomorrow still not even on its way.
Ordinary Russians must be rich then, otherwise there is no point to have all that:)))

Lone Ranger

You are mixing up present with the past…
Aside from that Im not Russian, and its not Russia that is saying that but western experts…
U.S. is on lifesupport since 2007, gradually getting worse…

Sauron

I am relating the past stories with same current stories

Lone Ranger

No relation tho.
One was propaganda other is fact based.

Sauron

complete analogy

Lone Ranger

Done.

Sauron

im glad you agree

Lone Ranger

Im glad you too agree.;)

Sauron

Never said you were russian

Sauron

wealth distribution is getting more uneven in US thats for sure, but that in no way means a collapse of the economy. Middle class american is till better off than upper class russian, just an example, still not saying that u r russian:))))

Lone Ranger

Middle class America is toast.
Russians are living better nowdays.
They have universal healthcare, low debt.
40million Americans face eviction, 60million have no healthcare, 200million have only partial healthcare.
27 tent cities across the U.S…

Sauron

they can hardly buy a bottle. u seem to be high

Lone Ranger

Avg debt per capita in the U.S. is $65,000…
40 million face eviction.
Only 80million out of 330mil have proper healthcare…
27 tent cities, drug epidemic, crime epidemic, yep they are toast, on the edge of a full blown civil war.

Sauron

im talking about Russians, don’t evade the questions. truth might hurt but still better than a lie

Lone Ranger

Avg debt per capita in Russia is $6000

Sauron

not debt, you dont live off debt:)))

Lone Ranger

Tell that to the U.S….
Most indebted nation ever.
At least till hyperinflation kicks in…

Lone Ranger