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The world is in panic over the coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak Most of the states have imposed unprecedented measures, including locking down big cities and halting international flights, to contain the pandemic.

On March 28, the total number of confirmed COVID-19 ceases globaly reached 629,467. 28,963 people died from the desease, while 138,085 others recovered. These numbers show that about 4.6% of people with confirmed COVID-19 cases died, but the real death rate from the new coronavirus remains unclear. In many cases, people go through COVID-19 deasease without a real threat to their health and life like in the case of an acute respiratory viral infection. So, they are not tested for the COVID-19.

According to the study published on February 18 in the China CDC Weekly, the  death rate from COVID-19 is around 2.3% in mainland China. The New England Journal of Medicine published another study of about 1,100 hospitalized patients in China. It found that the overall death rate was slightly lower, around 1.4%.

Furthermore, the death rate for COVID-19 appears to vary by location and an individual’s age. For example, as of March 28 in Italy there were 86,498 confirmed COVID-19 cases and 9,134 people died. Therefore, the death rate there stands at about 10.55%. Such a high number is a result of the fact that many of COVID-19-infected people in Italy is older people (65yo+) that already have health issues and thus remain in the group of risk in the event of any new deasease.

For example, the CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report study says that 45% of hospitalizations, 53% of admissions to the intensive care unit (ICU), and 80% of deaths associated with COVID-19 were among adults aged 65 years and older.

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Igor Alekseevich Gundarov, a Doctor of Medicine, professor, member of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, candidate of philosophical sciences, a specialist in the field of epidemiology and medical statistics, notes that the new coronavirus expansion may be linked with the previous successes in the field of combating the flue. The new virus just filled the created vacuum. According to him, the current crisis (and the panic) is a result of the specific media coverage and political-motivated decisions of particular actors.

As an example he provides the following numbers. In the 1990s, there were 4-7 million season flue in Russia every year. In the 2000s, the yearly number reuced to 400,000-50,000 cases. Gundarov added that 30,000-35,000 people die from the pneumonitis every year. However, nobody announced a national-wide emergency and locked down then country in the previous years.

The death toll from the COVID-19 is also a result of the pneumonitis, which it causes. Gundarov, says the death toll from the pneumonitis did not grow in 2020 despite the COVID-19 outbreak. Furthemore, 30,000-35,000 people dead in Russia from the pneumonitis every yar is higher than the total current global COVID-19 death toll.

Another Russian expert, Aleksand Evsinin notes that the chaos and administrative collapse because of the COVID-19 outbreak in some European countries and even the US is a result of the wrong organizational decisions (like attempts to move all ptients to a single hospital in the entire country) and the lack of propper anti-pandemic measures. For example, he claims that the concentration of all patients in a very few hospitals led to the expected lack of medical supplies and equipment in this particular area.

President Donald Trump signed an order allowing the Pentagon to call National Guard members and former troops back to active duty to fight the COVID-19 pandemic:

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The COVID-19 outbreak is an apparent threat, which cannot be ignored. However, another threat, which could be even higher than the one from the COVID-19 desease, is the current pandemic of fear fueled and instigated by mainstream media and some governments. 

The modern informational society already evolved to the stage when our world turned into a kind of supernational neuronet. The topology of this is close to the human’s brain. If we build a rough model, it would look this way: neurons – personalities, signals – flows of information that pierce through the modern world, lipoid metabolism – the monetary system. And this supernational neuronet is currently paralyzed by the fear of the death because of the COVID-19 outbreak and the public hysteria over it. If the panic is not overcome and the situation develops in the current direction, it may lead to the irreparable harm to this globa neuronet and instigate the already existing negative tendencies (like the deterioration of the global security, the collapse of the system of international relations, the economic crisis, the threat of new wars). However, if some powers find resources and the political will to overcome the current crisis, they will find themselves on the leading position in the ‘post-COVID-19’ period.

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  • Red Pilled ThoughtCrimes

    This many people cannot be in genuine fear over a strain of flu that is in over 60% of cases no symptoms, and the mortality rate is around 0.025%
    It’s a globalist coup. for some reason governments across the world ahve decided to go elbow deep in the arse of every single western countries economy
    Saudi didnt drop their oil prices without the express orders or consent from the USA
    and this crisis is no worse than any seasonal fly bug and the usual precautions should apply
    This is a highly concerted effort on a global scale.
    Why is the question.
    the answer is not Corona Virus Disease 2019 (COVID 19)

    • Karen Bartlett

      Exactly.

    • Ivan Freely

      To your questions, All the Above is my answer. The number of players working towards their agenda is confusing everyone. I’ll add one more benefit of killing off the old, Pensions. I remember reading about a Japanese Minister years ago, complaining about how their old citizens just don’t die.

      • Jens Holm

        We all know that debate. Its true people in the terminal phase or just before that are very expensive.

        So we all see the dilemma and has to find a balance, which is very difficult and very much an ethic thing as well.

        We have just had one, because some medicine might give cancerpations 1 or 2 weelks more but cost 250.000 dollars.

        But we can go the other way around and dont allow medical factories take those skyhigh prices or forbid them to sell them.

        We see it for several parts of the hospital sector here. They treat faster and better and are very effective. But medicine goes up and up and it is true many more gets old.

    • Alejandro Bonifacio

      i think the same, this is something weird and there is panic in the whole world, the goal one of your options or all of them

      • Jens Holm

        Thats not wierd. Its a very nasty influenza and fast spreading. Normaly we soon has some vaccine. We dont.

    • Peter Jennings

      Maybe a sneaky nuclear attack whilst we are all tucked up in our homes. One has to vigilant especially when public figures suddenly become less public.
      The metoo# have also jumped on board the virus bandwagon. It boosts their exposure and now seems a must for any PR manager.
      Maybe this time is just a run through, to fine tune the systems of restraint and peer pressure.

    • Redadmiral

      1984 in Real Time. What is coming Next? Bad(Marshall) Laws, Recession, Restriction on Movement, More Wars. Repression, Detention without Trial……

    • Ashok Varma

      Fortunately for humanity, China beat the US bio-fare attack and will lead the world to a recovery and a more humane path. Even ex-President Carter called US behaviour as “soulless and disgusting”.

    • Zionism = EVIL

      The FACT is that the Americunt bio-warfare boomeranged and now the arseholes don’t have a clue and the Jew media is in full panic mongering mode. Everyone chill.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1d7c70a6d3f57226920b06cb38c5f1ac36303ff04052c2a60632ab24a520264b.jpg

    • Adrian Florea

      Yes there is definitely more to this and I believe we will see more moves on the global scale. I was very intrigued when last year in September , one of the biggest vacation providers company Thomas Cook ( UK) went out of business. And also not too long ago hundreds of CEO’s in USA suddenly resigned !!! And the sudden oil war, immigrants crisis, wars and on the top of everything the COVID19 pandemic, are all part of an invisible war that is taking place as we speak between the globalist powers and the more traditional national states . But this is just my opinion.

    • Jens Holm

      Dont forget to give Your grandfather- and mother a last hug.

  • AlexanderAmproz

    GUILLOTINES SHOULD BE OUT OF THE MUSEUM FOR MACRON GOVERNMENT & MEDIAS OWNERS

    Why France Is Hiding a Cheap and Tested Virus Cure

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/france-hiding-cheap-tested-virus-cure/5707705

    The French government is arguably helping Big Pharma profit from the Covid-19 pandemic

    By Pepe Escobar

    Global Research, March 27, 2020

    Region: Europe, USA

    Theme: Intelligence, Media Disinformation, Science and Medicine

    What’s going on in the fifth largest economy in the world arguably points to a major collusion scandal in which the French government is helping Big Pharma to profit from the expansion of Covid-19. Informed French citizens are absolutely furious about it.

    My initial question to a serious, unimpeachable Paris source, jurist Valerie Bugault, was about the liaisons dangereuses between Macronism and Big Pharma and especially about the mysterious “disappearance” – more likely outright theft – of all the stocks of chloroquine in possession of the French government.

    Respected Professor Christian Perronne talked about the theft live in one of France’s 24/7 info channels: “The central pharmacy for the hospitals announced today that they were facing a total rupture of stocks, that they were pillaged.”

    With input from another, anonymous source, it’s now possible to establish a timeline that puts in much-needed perspective the recent actions of the French government.

    Let’s start with Yves Levy, who was the head of INSERM – the French National Institute of Health and Medical Research – from 2014 to 2018, when he was appointed as extraordinary state councilor for the Macron administration. Only 12 people in France have reached this status.

    File:Agnès Buzyn 2018-04-06 lancement stratégie autisme 2018-2022.jpg

    Levy is married to Agnes Buzyn (image on the right), who until recently was minister of health under Macron. Buzyn was essentially presented with an “offer you can’t refuse” by Macron’s party to leave the ministry – in the middle of the coronavirus crisis – and run for Mayor of Paris, where she was mercilessly trounced in the first round on March 16.

    Levy has a vicious running feud with Professor Didier Raoult – prolific and often-cited Marseille-based specialist in communicable diseases. Levy withheld the INSERM label from the world-renowned IHU (Hospital-University Institute) research center directed by Raoult.

    In practice, in October 2019, Levy revoked the status of “foundation” of the different IHUs so he could take over their research.

    Raoult was part of a clinical trial that in which hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin healed 90% of Covid-19 cases if they were tested very early. (Early massive testing is at the heart of the successful South Korean strategy.)

    Raoult is opposed to the total lockdown of sane individuals and possible carriers – which he considers “medieval,” in an anachronistic sense. He’s in favor of massive testing (which, besides South Korea, was successful in Singapore, Taiwan and Vietnam) and a fast treatment with hydroxychloroquine. Only contaminated individuals should be confined.

    Chloroquine costs one euro for ten pills. And there’s the rub: Big Pharma – which, crucially, finances INSERM, and includes “national champion” Sanofi – would rather go for a way more profitable solution. Sanofi for the moment says it is “actively preparing” to produce chloroquine, but that may take “weeks,” and there’s no mention about pricing.

    A minister fleeing a tsunami

    Here’s the timeline:

    On January 13, Agnes Buzyn, still France’s Health Minister, classifies chloroquine as a “poisonous substance,” from now on only available by prescription. An astonishing move, considering that it has been sold off the shelf in France for half a century.

    On March 16, the Macron government orders a partial lockdown. There’s not a peep about chloroquine. Police initially are not required to wear masks; most have been stolen anyway, and there are not enough masks even for health workers. In 2011 France had nearly 1.5 billion masks: 800 million surgical masks and 600 million masks for health professionals generally.

    But then, over the years, the strategic stocks were not renewed, to please the EU and to apply the Maastricht criteria, which limited membership in the Growth and Stability Pact to countries whose budget deficits did not exceed 3% of GDP. One of those in charge at the time was Jerome Salomon, now a scientific counselor to the Macron government.

    On March 17, Agnes Buzyn says she has learned the spread of Covid-19 will be a major tsunami, for which the French health system has no solution. She also says it had been her understanding that the Paris mayoral election “would not take place” and that it was, ultimately, “a masquerade.”

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    What she does not say is that she didn’t go public at the time she was running because the whole political focus by the Macron political machine was on winning the “masquerade.” The first round of the election meant nothing, as Covid-19 was advancing. The second round was postponed indefinitely. She had to know about the impending healthcare disaster. But as a candidate of the Macron machine she did not go public in timely fashion.

    In quick succession:

    The Macron government refuses to apply mass testing, as practiced with success in South Korea and Germany.

    Le Monde and the French state health agency characterize Raoult’s research as fake news, before issuing a retraction.

    Professor Perrone reveals on the 24/7 LCI news channel that the stock of chloroquine at the French central pharmacy has been stolen.

    Thanks to a tweet by Elon Musk, President Trump says chloroquine should be available to all Americans. Sufferers of lupus and rheumatoid arthritis, who already have supply problems with the only drug that offers them relief, set social media afire with their panic.

    US doctors and other medical professionals take to hoarding the medicine for the use of themselves and those close to them, faking prescriptions to indicate they are for patients with lupus or rheumatoid arthritis.

    Morocco buys the stock of chloroquine from Sanofi in Casablanca.

    Pakistan decides to increase its production of chloroquine to be sent to China.

    Switzerland discards the total lockdown of its population; goes for mass testing and fast treatment; and accuses France of practicing “spectacle politics.”

    Christian Estrosi, the mayor of Nice, having had himself treated with chloroquine, without any government input, directly calls Sanofi so they may deliver chloroquine to Nice hospitals.

    Marseille professor seeking to cure Covid-19

    Because of Raoult’s (image on the left) research, a large-scale chloroquine test finally starts in France, under the – predictable – direction of INSERM, which wants to “remake the experiments in other independent medical centers.” This will take at least an extra six weeks – as the Elysee Palace’s scientific council now mulls the extension of France’s total lockdown to … six weeks.

    If joint use of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin proves definitely effective among the most gravely ill, quarantines may be reduced in select clusters.

    The only French company that still manufactures chloroquine is under judicial intervention. That puts the chloroquine hoarding and theft into full perspective. It will take time for these stocks to be replenished, thus allowing Big Pharma the leeway to have what it wants: a costly solution.

    It appears the perpetrators of the chloroquine theft were very well informed.

    Bagged nurses

    This chain of events, astonishing for a highly developed G-7 nation proud of its health service, is part of a long, painful process embedded in neoliberal dogma. EU-driven austerity mixed with the profit motive resulted in a very lax attitude towards the health system.

    As Bugault told me,

    “test kits – very few in number – were always available but mostly for a small group connected to the French government [former officials of the Ministry of Finance, CEOs of large corporations, oligarchs, media and entertainment moguls]. Same for chloroquine, which this government did everything to make inaccessible for the population.

    They did not make life easy for Professor Raoult – he received death threats and was intimidated by ‘journalists.’

    And they did not protect vital stocks. Still under the Hollande government, there was a conscious liquidation of the stock of masks – which had existed in large quantities in all hospitals. Not to mention that the suppression of hospital beds and hospital means accelerated under Sarkozy.”

    This ties in with anguished reports by French citizens of nurses now having to use trash bags due to the lack of proper medical gear.

    At the same time, in another astonishing development, the French state refuses to requisition private hospitals and clinics – which are practically empty at this stage – even as the president of their own association, Lamine Garbi, has pleaded for such a public service initiative:

    “I solemnly demand that we are requisitioned to help public hospitals. Our facilities are prepared. The wave that surprised the east of France must teach us a lesson.”

    Bugault reconfirms the health situation in France “is very serious and will become even worse due to these political decisions – absence of masks, political refusal to massively test people, refusal of free access to chloroquine – in a context of supreme distress at the hospitals. This will last and destitution will be the norm.”

    Professor vs president

    In an explosive development on Tuesday, Raoult said he’s not participating in Macron’s scientific council anymore, even though he’s not quitting it altogether. Raoult once again insists on massive testing on a national scale to detect suspected cases, and then isolate and treat patients who tested positive. In a nutshell: the South Korean model.

    That’s exactly what is expected from the IHU in Marseille, where hundreds of residents continue to queue up for testing. And that ties in with the conclusions by a top Chinese expert on Covid-19, Zhang Nanshan, who says that treatment with chloroquine phospate had a “positive impact,” with patients testing negative after around four days.

    The key point has been stressed by Raoult: Use chloroquine in very special circumstances, for people tested very early, when the disease is not advanced yet, and only in these cases. He’s not advocating chloroquine for everyone. It’s exactly what the Chinese did, along with their use of Interferon.

    For years, Raoult has been pleading for a drastic revision of health economic models, so the treatments, cure and therapies created mostly during the 20th century, are considered a patrimony in the service of all humanity.“That’s not the case”, he says, “because we abandon medicine that is not profitable, even if it’s effective. That’s why almost no antibiotics are manufactured in the West.”

    On Tuesday, the French Health Ministry officially prohibited the utilization of treatment based on chloroquine recommended by Raoult. In fact the treatment is only allowed for terminal Covid-19 patients, with no other possibility of healing. This cannot but expose the Macron government to more accusations of at least inefficiency – added to the absence of masks, tests, contact tracing and ventilators.

    On Wednesday, commenting on the new government guidelines, Raoult said,

    “When damage to the lungs is too important, and patients arrive for reanimation, they practically do not harbor viruses in their bodies any more. It’s too late to treat them with chloroquine. Are these the only cases – the very serious cases – that will be treated with chloroquine under the new directive by [French Health Minister] Veran?” If so, he added ironically, “then they will be able to say with scientific certainty that chloroquine does not work.”

    Raoult was unavailable for comment on Western news media articles citing Chinese test results that would suggest he is wrong about the efficacy of chloroquine in dealing with mild cases of Covid-19.

    Staffers pointed instead to his comments in the IHU bulletin. There Raoult says it’s “insulting” to ask if we can trust the Chinese on the use of chloroquine. “If this was an American disease, and the president of the United States said, ‘We need to treat patients with that,’ nobody would discuss it.”

    In China, he adds, there were “enough elements so the Chinese government and all Chinese experts who know coronaviruses took an official position that ‘we must treat with chloroquine.’ Between the moment when we have the first results and an accepted international publication, there is no credible alternative among people who are the most knowledgeable in the world. They took this measure in the interest of public health.”

    Crucially: if he had coronavirus, Raoult says he would take chloroquine. Since Raoult is rated by his peers as the number one world expert in communicable diseases, way above Dr. Anthony Fauci in the US, I would say the new reports represent Big Pharma talking.

    Raoult has been mercilessly savaged and demonized by French corporate media that are controlled by a few oligarchs closely linked to Macronism. Not by accident the demonization has reached gilets jaunes (yellow vest) levels, especially because of the extremely popular hashtag #IlsSavaient (“They knew”), with which the yellow vests stress that French elites have “managed” the Covid-19 crisis by protecting themselves while leaving the population defenseless against the virus.

    That ties in with the controversial analysis by crack philosopher Giorgio Agamben in a column published a month ago, where he was already arguing that Covid-19 clearly shows that the state of exception – similar to a state of emergency but with differences important to philosophers – has become fully normalized in the West.

    Agamben was speaking not as a doctor or a virologist but as a master thinker, following in the steps of Foucault, Walter Benjamin and Hannah Arendt. Noting how a latent state of fear has metastasized into a state of collective panic, for which Covid-19 “offers once again the ideal pretext,” he described how, “in a perverse vicious circle, the limitation of freedom imposed by governments is accepted in the name of a desire for security that was induced by the same governments that now intervene to satisfy it.”

    There was no state of collective panic in South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan and Vietnam – to mention four Asian examples outside of China. A dogged combination of mass testing and contact tracing was applied with immense professionalism. It worked. In the Chinese case, with the help of chloroquine. And in all Asian cases, without a murky profit motive to the benefit of Big Pharma.

    There hasn’t yet appeared the smoking gun that proves the Macron system not only is incompetent to deal with Covid-19 but also is dragging the process so Big Pharma can come up with a miracle vaccine, fast. But the pattern to discourage chloroquine is more than laid out above – in parallel to the demonization of Raoult.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/france-hiding-cheap-tested-virus-cure/5707705

    • klove and light

      because a tab. of hydrochloroquine Costs about 20 Cents, and you Need 12 tab. against corona.
      it is old, meaning anybody worldwide can produce them…….no Money in it……….but more important is the PLANNED hysteria thus causing/manufacturing a PROBLEMS.
      Problem 1. the Evil Evil covid19 Virus……Solution 1.FORCED VACCINATION

      Problem2 . Tracking the Population with and without vaccination Solution
      Solution2. Quantum Dot tatto (nano Technology) (just goggle QUANTUM DOT TATTO)

      problem3. The planned destructiion of the current monetary system
      solution 3. Digital Money, through the Quantum Dot Tattoo

      others will follow untill the One world Government is created………..ps. only 2 steps missing then!

      • AlexanderAmproz

        https://www.globalresearch.ca/secretary-state-mike-pompeo-admits-covid-19-live-exercise-president-trump-comments-i-wish-you-would-have-told-us/5707223

        Mike Pompeo Admits COVID-19 Is a “Live Exercise,” Trump Retorts “I Wish You Would Have Told Us”

        Can someone please explain exactly what is going on here?

        By Shepard Ambellas

        Global Research, March 23, 2020

        Intellihub 21 March 2020

        Region: USA

        Theme: Intelligence, Science and Medicine

        United States Secretary of State Mike Pompeo had a slip of the tongue while addressing the American people from the White House when he stated that COVID-19 is a live military exercise.

        “This is not about retribution,” Pompeo explained. “This matter is going forward — we are in a live exercise here to get this right.”

        With a disgusted look on his face, President Trump replied: “You should have let us know.”

        Military Exercise meaning (from Wikipedia): “A military exercise or war game is the employment of military resources in training for military operations, either exploring the effects of warfare or testing strategies without actual combat. This also serves the purpose of ensuring the combat readiness of garrisoned or deployable forces prior to deployment from a home base.”

        Etc., etc….

        https://www.globalresearch.ca/secretary-state-mike-pompeo-admits-covid-19-live-exercise-president-trump-comments-i-wish-you-would-have-told-us/5707223

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        Bolshevism Was Basically a Jewish Movement – The Historical Facts from Lenin to Andropov

        “Stalin had three wives, all of them Jewesses … Svetlana Stalin had a total of four husbands, three of them Jewish. Various authorities allege that (Lenin’s) wife, Nadezhda Krupskaya was a Jewess and that her family spoke Yiddish in the home.”

        https://russia-insider.com/en/history/bolshevism-was-basically-jewish-movement-historical-facts-lenin-andropov/ri22603?utm_source=DLVR.IT&utm_medium=twiter

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        89% of our Senators and Congress hold dual citizenship citizenship with Israel

        https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/89-of-our-senators-and-congress-hold-dual-citizenship-citizenship-with-israel/

        • Jens Holm

          Poor evil talk.

          It is true, You have to be well organized to make things work.

          I see militaries used all over the world for a lot of things, so why is the Pompeo version that bad. Parts of USA has not the needed welfare system, which I think they should have.

          We see Sanders having a hard time and Biden and Trump runs america being the chosen ones.

      • Jens Holm

        The main problem was it came too fast and was and are a nasty one. We normally vaccinate all in the crical groups, which want it. It sometimes is for free amd sometime You have to pay symbolic.

        So against Corona and other things its important to have a system with good health care and people trust and follow advices from the political part of us.

        • Ricky Miller

          You spout nonsense. This is not the flu, idiot. It is not related at all to common influenza strains but is in fact a simpler type of virus whose RNA strands contain information that would fill all of two pages, typewritten. It emerged from it’s animal vector after millions of years of being indifferent to humans, right at the same time that China is eclipsing the United States in both economy and total military firepower. And right when Russia is on the threshold of attaining strategic nuclear advantage over the United States and when the bulk of Central Eurasia is the last holdout to America’s thinly disguised world empire. Now, scientists are completing prototypes of vaccines but they were at a disadvantage because this virus is so different than viral particles that vaccines have been made from in the past. Scientists also say and are preparing papers giving the case that this virus is natural in origin, but really how difficult would it be to engineer a viral pathogen of such deadly simplicity and make it seem natural? The United States is the country who has bioweapons labs in other countries, and even Western scientists published a paper asking why the research at these labs appear to be weapons programs if in fact they’re not. And TASS today has an article that quotes a Russian official saying that the United States may have some serious questions to answer in all of this, and Russian research is ongoing. One thing I know is that the situation is too murky for your simplistic answers and your dismissive put downs of others opinions are also unwarranted. BTW, have I mentioned lately just how much it sucks that you comment here? Your distractions for the Empire won’t work here, Jens NATOspam.

  • Christian S

    What do most of the epic centers of Corona infection and death rate have in common? The areas are covered with the new 5G radiofreqency network inflaming high freqency waves data with 250MBsec thru people. The amount of radiation a bodycell has to sustain is very high. Its a daily crackdown on people’s immuunsystems will propel infection by coronavirus immense as cell-poisoning by radiation will have priority for immuunsystem, add a virus to it and u have massacre. For many more countries and areas 5G still waiting to be launched expecting long term effect by this virus for many years to come as this kind of electro-magnetic pollution effects all of us. The virus pandamic is timed with launch of the network, the effects of radiation also crack down on lung capacity reducing the intake oxygen propelin inflammation of virus. Corona will hide the new victims of electro-magnetic pollution worldwide.

    • MADE MAKER

      Yes i agree 5G POISONS the Body cells Breaking down the IMMUNE SYSTEM causing TOXIC MATTER to EXIT Body as CORONAVIRUS WHICH IS THEN Spread to Others

      • Jens Holm

        We already see it in the streets and has emplyed some hard working cleaners for a reduction.

        We also compensate, because when people die by the Corona it after 12 days regain them into nice mainly Young people.

        I have asked for one having cleaning as a hobby. My wife is not good add it and I dont like it.

        The answer was : Wait, so many others has that wish. They only could offer two very small children in stead. But after many years we prefare a diaper free home.

    • Ivan Freely

      OR, they launched the bioattack as soon as those 5G networks becomes operational because the US is not even in the game.

    • Jens Holm

      Where are You. If I can plug and relaod my car at You, I might pay You for it.

    • JIMI JAMES

      3.64 gb per second with my case opened,besides who said you can’t stick to 3-4 g anyway?

    • Peter Jennings

      It also affects the fertility of females apparently. This topic was hot when wireless connections were introduced. It seems it’s about to get hotter.

      I wonder what the long term affects will be of 5G on wildlife?

  • MADE MAKER

    COVID-19 CORONAVIRUS was Manufactured in the USA at a MILITARY LAB as a BIOLOGICAL WEAPON

    • Ivan Freely

      Fort Detrick, Maryland. The CDC knew about it and had it shutdown until their concerns were addressed. There were many reports of pneumonia-like deaths in surrounding areas back in Summer 2019. Since this is a new virus, existing tests returned negative for the usual pneumonia viruses.

      • Peter Jennings

        Popcorn lung?

      • Jens Holm

        It doesnt say which kind of virus it was. Local influenza do exist being not wide spread.

    • Daily Beatings

      No it wasn’t:

      The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2
      Kristian G. Andersen, Andrew Rambaut, W. Ian Lipkin, Edward C. Holmes & Robert F. Garry
      Nature Medicine (2020)

      “Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus.”

      https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9

    • Jens Holm

      Everybody can find a nasty one and add it up. You are an eveil person. If You were in my country the police would ask You a lot of questions and add something to it.

      • Ricky Miller

        The police in your country can’t even stop jihadi street gangs from taking over neighborhoods and threatening people engaged in non sharia activities, like the owners of bars.

        • Jens Holm

          Yes we can. Its very limited and among muslims. There are 2 kinds. The religios and the criminal.

          Danes use the soft way and have good results accoring crimes as this local very bad ones. True it is tempting just shoot those people away. To me they almost are some kind of rodents.

          I will add that the criminal part also are people from Baltikum and we also has danes making crimes and control.

          Out Goverment try to make different rules for them and areas. I dont like that, because whats next dividing and a kind of tribing…

  • klove and light

    According to the latest data of the Italian National Health Institute ISS, the average age of the positively-tested deceased in Italy is currently about 81 years. 10% of the deceased are over 90 years old. 90% of the deceased are over 70 years old.
    80% of the deceased had suffered from two or more chronic diseases. 50% of the deceased had suffered from three or more chronic diseases. The chronic diseases include in particular cardiovascular problems, diabetes, respiratory problems and cancer.
    Less than 1% of the deceased were healthy persons, i.e. persons without pre-existing chronic diseases. Only about 30% of the deceased are women.
    The Italian Institute of Health moreover distinguishes between those who died from the coronavirus and those who died with the coronavirus. In many cases it is not yet clear whether the persons died from the virus or from their pre-existing chronic diseases or from a combination of both.
    The two Italians deceased under 40 years of age (both 39 years old) were a cancer patient and a diabetes patient with additional complications. In these cases, too, the exact cause of death was not yet clear (i.e. if from the virus or from their pre-existing diseases).
    The partial overloading of the hospitals is due to the general rush of patients and the increased number of patients requiring special or intensive care. In particular, the aim is to stabilize respiratory function and, in severe cases, to provide anti-viral therapies.
    (Update: The Italian National Institute of Health published a statistical report on test-positive patients and deceased, confirming the above data.)
    The doctor also points out the following aspects:
    Northern Italy has one of the oldest populations and the worst air quality in Europe, which has already led to an increased number of respiratory diseases and deaths in the past and is likely an additional risk factor in the current epidemic.
    South Korea, for instance, has experienced a much milder course than Italy and has already passed the peak of the epidemic. In South Korea, only about 70 deaths with a positive test result have been reported so far. As in Italy, those affected were mostly high-risk patients.
    The few dozen test-positive Swiss deaths so far were also high-risk patients with chronic diseases, an average age of more than 80 years and a maximum age of 97 years, whose exact cause of death, i.e. from the virus or from their pre-existing diseases, is not yet known.
    Furthermore, according to a first Chinese study, the internationally used virus test kits may give a false positive result in some cases. In these cases, the persons may not have contracted the new coronavirus, but presumably one of the many existing human coronaviruses that are part of the annual (and currently ongoing) common cold and flu epidemics. (1)
    Thus the most important indicator for judging the danger of the disease is not the frequently reported number of positively-tested persons and deaths, but the number of persons actually and unexpectedly developing or dying from pneumonia (so-called excess mortality).
    According to all current data, for the healthy general population of school and working age, a mild to moderate course of the Covid-19 disease can be expected. Senior citizens and persons with existing chronic diseases should be protected. The medical capacities should be optimally prepared.
    Medical literature
    (1) Zhuang et al., Potential false-positive rate among the ‚asymptomatic infected individuals‘ in close contacts of COVID-19 patients, Chinese Medical Association Publishing House, March 2020.
    (2) Grasselli et al., Critical Care Utilization for the COVID-19 Outbreak in Lombardy, JAMA, March 2020.
    (3) WHO, Report of the WHO-China Joint Mission on Coronavirus Disease 2019, February 2020.
    Reference values
    Important reference values include the number of annual flu deaths, which is up to 8,000 in Italy and up to 60,000 in the US; normal overall mortality, which in Italy is up to 2,000 deaths per day; and the average number of pneumonia cases per year, which in Italy is over 120,000.
    Current all-cause mortality in Europe and in Italy is still normal or even below-average. Any excess mortality due to Covid-19 should become visible in the European monitoring charts.

    Winter smog (NO2) in Northern Italy in February 2020 (ESA)
    Updates
    March 17, 2020 (I)
    The mortality profile remains puzzling from a virological point of view because, in contrast to influenza viruses, children are spared and men are affected about twice as often as women. On the other hand, this profile corresponds to natural mortality, which is close to zero for children and almost twice as high for 75-year-old men as for women of the same age.
    The younger test-positive deceased almost always had severe pre-existing conditions. For example, a 21-year-old Spanish soccer coach had died test-positive, making international headlines. However, the doctors diagnosed an unrecognized leukemia, whose typical complications include severe pneumonia.
    The decisive factor in assessing the danger of the disease is therefore not the number of test-positive persons and deceased, which is often mentioned in the media, but the number of people actually and unexpectedly developing or dying from pneumonia (so-called excess mortality). So far, this value remains very low in most countries.
    In Switzerland, some emergency units are already overloaded simply because of the large number of people who want to be tested. This points to an additional psychological and logistical component of the current situation.
    March 17, 2020 (II)
    Italian immunology professor Sergio Romagnani from the University of Florence comes to the conclusion in a study on 3000 people that 50 to 75% of the test-positive people of all ages remain completely symptom-free – significantly more than previously assumed.
    The occupancy rate of the North Italian ICUs in the winter months is typically already 85 to 90%. Some or many of these existing patients could also be test-positive by now. However, the number of additional unexpected pneumonia cases is not yet known.
    A hospital doctor in the Spanish city of Malaga writes on Twitter that people are currently more likely to die from panic and systemic collapse than from the virus. The hospital is being overrun by people with colds, flu and possibly Covid19 and doctors have lost control.
    March 18, 2020
    A new epidemiological study (preprint) concludes that the fatality of Covid19 even in the Chinese city of Wuhan was only 0.04% to 0.12% and thus rather lower than that of seasonal flu, which has a mortality rate of about 0.1%. As a reason for the overestimated fatality of Covid19, the researchers suspect that initially only a small number of cases were recorded in Wuhan, as the disease was probably asymptomatic or mild in many people.
    Chinese researchers argue that extreme winter smog in the city of Wuhan may have played a causal role in the outbreak of pneumonia. In the summer of 2019, public protests were already taking place in Wuhan because of the poor air quality.
    New satellite images show how Northern Italy has the highest levels of air pollution in Europe, and how this air pollution has been greatly reduced by the quarantine.
    A manufacturer of the Covid19 test kit states that it should only be used for research purposes and not for diagnostic applications, as it has not yet been clinically validated.

    Datasheet of Covid19 virus test kit
    March 19, 2020 (I)
    The Italian National Health Institute ISS has published a new report on test-positive deaths:
    The median age is 80.5 years (79.5 for men, 83.7 for women).
    10% of the deceased was over 90 years old; 90% of the deceased was over 70 years old.
    At most 0.8% of the deceased had no pre-existing chronic illnesses.
    Approximately 75% of the deceased had two or more pre-existing conditions, 50% had three more pre-existing conditions, in particular heart disease, diabetes and cancer.
    Five of the deceased were between 31 and 39 years old, all of them with serious pre-existing health conditions (e.g. cancer or heart disease).
    The National Health Institute hasn’t yet determined what the patients examined ultimately died of and refers to them in general terms as Covid19-positive deaths.
    March 19, 2020 (II)
    A report in the Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera points out that Italian intensive care units already collapsed under the marked flu wave in 2017/2018. They had to postpone operations, call nurses back from holiday and ran out of blood donations.
    German virologist Hendrik Streeck argues that Covid19 is unlikely to increase total mortality in Germany, which normally is around 2500 people per day. Streeck mentions the case of a 78-year-old man with preconditions who died of heart failure, subsequently tested positive for Covid19 and thus was included in the statistics of Covid19 deaths.
    According to Stanford Professor John Ioannidis, the new coronavirus may be no more dangerous than some of the common coronaviruses, even in older people. Ioannidis argues that there is no reliable medical data backing the measures currently decided upon.
    March 20, 2020
    According to the latest European monitoring report, overall mortality in all countries (including Italy) and in all age groups remains within or even below the normal range so far.
    According to the latest German statistics, the median age of test-positive deaths is about 83 years, most with pre-existing health conditions that might be a possible cause of death.
    A 2006 Canadian study referred to by Stanford Professor John Ioannidis found that common cold coronaviruses may also cause death rates of up to 6% in risk groups such as residents of a care facility, and that virus test kits initially falsely indicated an infection with SARS coronaviruses.
    March 21, 2020 (I)
    Spain reports only three test-positive deaths under the age of 65 (out of a total of about 1000). Their pre-existing health conditions and actual cause of death are not yet known.
    On March 20, Italy reported 627 nationwide test-positive deaths in one day. By comparison, normal overall mortality in Italy is about 1800 deaths per day. Since February 21, Italy has reported about 4000 test-positive deaths. Normal overall mortality during this time frame is up to 50,000 deaths. It is not yet known to what extent normal overall mortality has increased, or to what extent it has simply turned test-positive. Moreover, Italy and Europe have had a very mild flu season in 2019/2020 that has spared many otherwise vulnerable people.
    According to Italian news reports, 90% of test-positive deceased in the Lombardy region have died outside of intensive care units, mostly at home or in general care sections. Their cause of death and the possible role of quarantine measures in their deaths remain unclear. Only 260 out of 2168 test-positive persons have died in ICUs.
    Bloomberg highlights that „99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says“

    Italy test-positive deaths by prior illnesses (ISS / Bloomberg)
    March 21, 2020 (II)
    The Japan Times asks: Japan was expecting a coronavirus explosion. Where is it? Despite being one of the first countries getting positive test results and having imposed no lockdown, Japan is one of the least-affected nations. Quote: „Even if Japan may not be counting all those infected, hospitals aren’t being stretched thin and there has been no spike in pneumonia cases.“
    Italian researchers argue that the extreme smog in Northern Italy, the worst in Europe, may be playing a causative role in the current pneumonia outbreak there, as in Wuhan before.
    In a new interview, Professor Sucharit Bhakdi, a world renowned expert in medical microbiology, says blaming the new coronavirus alone for deaths is „wrong“ and „dangerously misleading“, as there are other more important factors at play, notably pre-existing health conditions and poor air quality in Chinese and Northern Italian cities. Professor Bhakdi describes the currently discussed or imposed measures as „grotesque“, „useless“, „self-destructive“ and a „collective suicide“ that will shorten the lifespan of the elderly and should not be accepted by society.
    March 22, 2020 (I)
    Regarding the situation in Italy: Most major media falsely report that Italy has up to 800 deaths per day from the coronavirus. In reality, the president of the Italian Civil Protection Service stresses that these are deaths „with the coronavirus and not from the coronavirus“ (minute 03:30 of the press conference). In other words, these persons died while also testing positive.
    As Professors Ioannidis and Bhakdi have shown, countries like South Korea and Japan that introduced no lockdown measures have experienced near-zero excess mortality in connection with Covid-19, while the Diamond Princess cruise ship experienced an extra polated mortality figure in the per mille range, i.e. at or below the level of the seasonal flu.
    Current test-positive death figures in Italy are still less than 50% of normal daily overall mortality in Italy, which is around 1800 deaths per day. Thus it is possible, perhaps even likely, that a large part of normal daily mortality now simply counts as „Covid19“ deaths (as they test positive). This is the point stressed by the President of the Italian Civil Protection Service.
    However, by now it is clear that certain regions in Northern Italy, i.e. those facing the toughest lockdown measures, are experiencing markedly increased daily mortality figures. It is also known that in the Lombardy region, 90% of test-positive deaths occur not in intensive care units, but instead mostly at home. And more than 99% have serious pre-existing health conditions.
    Professor Sucharit Bhakdi has called lockdown measures „useless“, „self-destructive“ and a „collective suicide“. Thus the extremely troubling question arises as to what extent the increased mortality of these elderly, isolated, highly stressed people with multiple pre-existing health conditions may in fact be caused by the weeks-long lockdown measures still in force.
    If so, it may be one of those cases where the treatment is worse than the disease. (See update below: only 12% of death certificates show the coronavirus as a cause.)

    Angelo Borrelli, head of the Italian Civil Protection Service, emphasizing the difference between deaths with and from coronaviruses.
    March 22, 2020 (II)
    In Switzerland, there are currently 56 test-positive deaths, all of whom were „high risk patients“ due to their advanced age and/or pre-existing health conditions. Their actual cause of death, i.e. from or simply with the virus, has not been communicated.
    The Swiss government claimed that the situation in southern Switzerland (next to Italy) is „dramatic“, yet local doctors denied this and said everything is normal.
    According to press reports, oxygen bottles may become scarce. The reason, however, is not a currently higher usage, but rather hoarding due to fear of future shortages.
    In many countries, there is already an increasing shortage of doctors and nurses. This is primarily because healthcare workers testing positive have to self-quarantine, even though in many cases they will remain fully or largely symptom-free.
    March 22, 2020 (III)
    A model from Imperial College London predicted between 250,000 and 500,000 deaths in the UK „from“ Covid-19, but the authors of the study have now conceded that many of these deaths would not be in addition to, but rather part of the normal annual mortality rate, which in the UK is about 600,000 people per year. In other words, excess mortality would remain low.
    Dr. David Katz, founding director of the Yale University Prevention Research Center, asks in the New York Times: „Is Our Fight Against Coronavirus Worse Than the Disease? There may be more targeted ways to beat the pandemic.“
    According to Italian Professor Walter Ricciardi, „only 12% of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus“, whereas in public reports „all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus“. This means that Italian death figures reported by the media have to be reduced by at least a factor of 8 to obtain actual deaths caused by the virus. Thus one ends up with at most a few dozen deaths per day, compared to an overall daily mortality of 1800 deaths and up to 20,000 flu deaths per year.
    March 23, 2020 (I)
    A new French study in the Journal of Antimicrobial Agents, titled SARS-CoV-2: fear versus data, concludes that „the problem of SARS-CoV-2 is probably overestimated“, since „the mortality rate for SARS-CoV-2 is not significantly different from that for common coronaviruses identified at the study hospital in France“.
    An Italian study of August 2019 found that flu deaths in Italy were between 7,000 and 25,000 in recent years. This value is higher than in most other European countries due to the large elderly population in Italy, and much higher than anything attributed to Covid-19 so far.
    In a new fact sheet, the World Health Organization WHO reports that Covid-19 is in fact spreading slower, not faster, than influenza by a factor of about 50%. Moreover, pre-symptomatic transmission appears to be much lower with Covid-19 than with influenza.
    A leading Italian doctor reports that „strange cases of pneumonia“ were seen in the Lombardy region already in November 2019, raising again the question if they were caused by the new virus (which officially only appeared in Italy in February 2020), or by other factors, such as the dangerously high smog levels in Northern Italy.
    Danish researcher Peter Gøtzsche, founder of the renowned Cochrane Medical Collaboration, writes that Corona is „an epidemic of mass panic“ and „logic was one of the first victims.“
    March 23, 2020 (II)
    Former Israeli Health Minister, Professor Yoram Lass, says that the new coronavirus is „less dangerous than the flu“ and lockdown measures „will kill more people than the virus“. He adds that „the numbers do not match the panic“ and „psychology is prevailing over science“. He also notes that „Italy is known for its enormous morbidity in respiratory problems, more than three times any other European country.“
    Pietro Vernazza, a Swiss infectious disease specialist, argues that many of the imposed measures are not based on science and should be reversed. According to Vernazza, mass testing makes no sense because 90% of the population will see no symptoms, and lockdowns and closing schools are even „counterproductive“. He recommends protecting only risk groups while keeping the economy and society at large undisturbed.
    The President of the World Doctors Federation, Frank Ulrich Montgomery, argues thatlockdown measures as in Italy are „unreasonable“ and „counterproductive“ and should be reversed.
    Switzerland: Despite media panic, excess mortality still at or near zero: the latest testpositive „victims“ were a 96yo in palliative care and a 97yo with pre-existing conditions.
    The latest statistical report of the Italian National Health Institute is now available in English.
    March 24, 2020
    The UK has removed Covid19 from the official list of High Consquence Infectious Diseases (HCID), stating that mortality rates are „low overall“.
    The director of the German National Health Institute (RKI) admitted that they count all test-positive deaths, irrespective of the actual cause of death, as „coronavirus deaths“. The average age of the deceased is 82 years, most with serious preconditions. As in most other countries, excess mortality due Covid19 is likely to be near zero in Germany.
    Beds in Swiss intensive care units reserved for Covid19 patients are still „mostly empty“.
    German Professor Karin Moelling, former Chair of Medical Virology at the University of Zurich, stated in an interview that Covid19 is „no killer virus“ and that „panic must end“.
    In Italy, overall national mortality of the 65+ age group until March 7 remained below the level of earlier years, especially due to the rather mild winter (see red line in chart below).

    Italy: Overall mortality of 65+ age group (red) compared to earlier years (March 7, 2020 / MdS)
    March 25, 2020
    German immunologist and toxicologist, Professor Stefan Hockertz, explains in a radio interview that Covid19 is no more dangerous than influenza (the flu), but that it is simply observed much more closely. More dangerous than the virus is the fear and panic created by the media and the „authoritarian reaction“ of many governments. Professor Hockertz also notes that most so-called „corona deaths“ have in fact died of other causes while also testing positive for coronaviruses. Hockertz believes that up to ten times more people than reported already had Covid19 but noticed nothing or very little.
    The Argentinean virologist and biochemist Pablo Goldschmidt explains that Covid19 is no more dangerous than a bad cold or the flu. It is even possible that the Covid19 virus circulated already in earlier years, but wasn’t discovered because no one was looking for it. Dr. Goldschmidt speaks of a „global terror“ created by the media and politics. Every year, he says, three million newborns worldwide and 50,000 adults in the US alone die of pneumonia.
    Professor Martin Exner, head of the Institute for Hygiene at the University of Bonn, explains in an interview why health personnel are currently under pressure, even though there has hardly been any increase in the number of patients in Germany so far: On the one hand, doctors and nurses who have tested positive have to be quarantined and are often hard to replace. On the other hand, nurses from neighbouring countries, who provide an important part of the care, are currently unable to enter the country due to closed borders.
    Professor Julian Nida-Ruemelin, former German Minister of State for Culture and Professor of Ethics, points out that Covid19 poses no risk to the healthy general population and that extreme measures such as curfews are therefore not justified.
    Using data from the cruise ship Diamond Princess, Stanford Professor John Ioannidis showed that the age-corrected lethality of Covid19 is between 0.025% and 0.625%, i.e. in the range of a strong cold or the flu. Moreover, a Japanese study showed that of all the test-positive passengers, and despite the high average age, 48% remained completely symptom-free; even among the 80-89 year olds 48% remained symptom-free, while among the 70 to 79 year olds it was an astounding 60% that developed no symptoms at all. This again raises the question whether the pre-existing diseases are not perhaps a more important factor than the virus itself. The Italian example has shown that 99% of test-positive deaths had one or more pre-existing conditions, and even among these, only 12% of the death certificates mentioned Covid19 as a causal factor.
    March 26, 2020 (I)
    USA: The latest US data of March 25 shows a decreasing number of flu-like illnesses throughout the country, the frequency of which is now well below the multi-year average. The government measures can be ruled out as a reason for this, as they have been in effect for less than a week.

    Italy’s Institute of Health (ISS) Report: 99% of Deaths Attributed to Covid-19 Deaths Had “Pre-existing Serious Illness”
    USA: Decreasing flu-like illnesses (March 25, 2020, KINSA)
    Germany: The latest influenza report of the German Robert Koch Institute of March 24 documents a „nationwide decrease in activity of acute respiratory diseases“: The number of influenza-like illnesses and the number of hospital stays caused by them is below the level of previous years and is currently continuing to decline. The RKI continues: „The increase in the number of visits to the doctor () in adults cannot currently be explained either by influenza viruses circulating in the population or by SARS-CoV-2.“

    • Jens Holm

      It seemes there are 3 versions of the Corona. A upper lung, a deeper lung and a upper and deeper lung. The upper one seemes to be almost harmless like a normal flew.

  • Karen Bartlett

    There are vitamins one can take which will help prevent/cure Covid-19, much better than any vaccine the gov’t’s try out on us. These are Vit.B1 (thiamine), Vit C and D, and zinc. Thiamine helps prevent the forming of fluid in the lungs and infections. Zinc helps to form T-cells which helps develop immunity. Vitamin D is the “sunshine” vitamin which we have lower levels of in winter. Vitamin C has been used for acute respiratory illness and infections. Here are the relevant articles:

    Spring Equinox and Rise in Solar UV Radiation Will Predictably Bring Mild Epidemic to an Aburpt Halt (Except for Quarantined Populations) https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/bill-sardi/leaders-of-western-nations-misled-over-quarantine-social-distancing/Vitamin C Clinical Trials For Coronavirus Underway In China https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/no_author/vitamin-c-clinical-trials-for-coronavirus-underway-in-china-latest-updates/

    Health Inheritance: Asians Have Lower Vitamin C Blood Levels; More Prone To Coronavirus & Other Infections https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/bill-sardi/health-inheritance-asians-have-lower-vitamin-c-blood-levels-more-prone-to-coronavirus-other-infections/

    Vitamin C Clinical Trials For Coronavirus Underway In China https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/no_author/vitamin-c-clinical-trials-for-coronavirus-underway-in-china-latest-updates/

    The Current Coronavirus Pandemic Is Likely Caused By More Than One Pathogen, and There Is a Missing Antidote https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/bill-sardi/the-current-coronavirus-pandemic-its-likely-caused-by-more-than-one-pathogen-and-there-is-a-missing-antidote/

    Will Quarantines Backfire? https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/bill-sardi/quarantines-may-backfire/

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/02/130207131344.htm (Zinc helps stop inflamation, there are other articles about zinc and T-Cells. Just google “effects of zinc”)

    • Jens Holm

      Thats crap and should be punishe d by hail right away.

      I can a much cheeper version. Knock a hammer on Your foot and You will not even think on Corona. And if doesnt help – THE DO IT AGAIN.

      WE have shops here, where You can rent a hammer or buy one and they buy it back for half the price.

      The method is sopported by local shoemakers. We dont need vitamines and doctors. Most vitamines also are peed out right away. Iron is a problem, because You becomes magnetic. I heard some in the land of Karen Bartlett has to shower to clean spoon ad forks after meals:).

      In facts it is the cleaning 3 times a day, which make them not have Corona.

      • Karen Bartlett

        Why aren’t you ashamed of being such a dirt ball?

        • Jens Holm

          You kill people by those misguidings. They dont go the doctors and hospital unless they are almost dead and probatly die.

          Its the same abot the moskito pills. We only know they seemes to have some effects at some. We also know that an overdose will kill many more.

          Here people even use the farmer version which in Your world would be eating rust in stead of Iron(as vitamine).

          So spread what works. Those good asvices works. Dont go crowding and avoid all human contacts. When Youi have to buy food do it fast and for many days, so You dont can be infected or infect others as often as You noirmally do.

          Wash hands when You go out and wash hands when You need to touch others and expeciaslly Your grandparents and when You come home again, so You dont contaminate Your family there, id You have ones.

          • Karen Bartlett

            Here’s an article from a doctor. I doubt he is interested in killing people:
            High Heat May Kill the Coronavirus https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/joseph-mercola/high-heat-may-kill-the-coronavirus/

          • Jens Holm

            Any facts about that during the last 100 years dont say that at all. Advices like that kill people.

            We already has seen it for moskito pills. People not even took the real ones but the ones made for anything else.

          • JIMI JAMES

            You may look into why slavics rations are down,try vodka and rakia,but that is too strong for you gutless millenial wonders,oh well die from fear ignorant fool!

          • Jens Holm

            Garbage from You. Fighting virus and bakteries as well as it goes is well known for many many years.

            You cant take it, where it starts or You can make damage control.

            Maybee You understand missiles. When they start. They are slow and You easy can hit them hard. If You dont, You dont know where they go and has to have a very big more or less passive defence such as Skuds or s300.

            I have no fear. I will continue to fight people like You having seen the truth in Your own toilet before water or sand.

          • Zionism = EVIL

            You are responding to a moron whose command of English is that of a five year old. He just SPAMS for attention.

          • Jens Holm

            Some 5 years old easy reach Your level in most things apart from hight and weight.

          • Ricky Miller

            It’s telling to me that the most cogent sentence of yours that I’ve ever read is an insult. But hey, at least you wrote a sentence that made sense.

        • JIMI JAMES

          The creep never has any solution which then makes it no better than the epidemic living in its veins,sad but true,yep just another neo-zombie liar!

        • Jens Holm

          Your advice people to kill themselves before time.

      • Peter Jennings

        In keeping with the shoemakers analogy…..cobblers.

        • Jens Holm

          Her advice kills people.

  • Daily Beatings

    “… 80% of deaths associated with COVID-19 were among adults aged 65 years and older.”

    Because the Logan’s Run author believes old people don’t have a right to live.

    • Ivan Freely

      No. Think Pensions. I suspect many nations can’t meet their obligations. But, I don’t believe this release was strictly about pensioners. It’s more of a side benefit.

      • Jens Holm

        Its because it came fast. Normaly we can make vaccine and give all in the risk groups. This one also is a nasty version. 6% among old is a lot.

  • Free man

    Lack of control and proper supervision over the wet markets in China caused the outbreak of the plague. The totalitarian mentality of China and Iran has caused the plague to spread throughout the world.
    When the Corona crisis is over, the world will hold China and Iran responsible for the epidemic spread.

    • Alejandro Bonifacio

      you’re a child

      • Jens Holm

        In Denmark we use: We often here the real truth from children and drunk people, because they have no limitarions made by any.

        • JIMI JAMES

          Oh yes trust in greta now do we?

    • Murmele

      Yep sure, why not? We blame China and Iran for everything else anyhow. I am not sure why you ended up that stupid, maybe it’s because you are just a Yankee. That would explain it.

      • Jens Holm

        “WE” are not all of us. You are bad Yourself telling the reason is he is a Yankee. I cant see that explain anything at all.

    • Jens Holm

      I am afraid its not that simple. When China after covering up the flew acted, they in their system was able to stop it – as far as we know.

      Iran, Italy and several others dont have that civile encourage where realisme is highly important and people listen to advice and folow normal procedures for attacks by virus and bakterias.

      I also allow me to add that those flews mainly comes from areas, which should be restored and ornanized, so decieses dont spread from them.

      We mainly see them as Honkong flew, China flew and India flew. It look like as it is, where people are living too crowded and very close to their animals.

      A losson might be spreading out people more and divide more in humans and animals. More and better cleaning might be an option too.

      • Redsky B

        Blame Russia, China, Venezuela, Iran and now blame the animals. Oy vey ….

        • Jens Holm

          I dont blame the animals. I blame the close connections between them and the humans making their decises into ours and the opposit way.

          I also write how we can reduce those risks. We do know where those infections comes from. We therefore might reduce the risk by chaninging things there. Thats the start.

          Next is honest as fast rapporting, so the rest know whats comming and fast enough can make some damage control.

          Next is having tools for damage control. Its not only doctors beut very much people – if its vital – do exact what the polticians says.

          The methods are old and well known. You can reduce spreading very much by isolating the reasons where the infection is spread.

          That doesnt need a lot of doctors but people fx know, they should boil all water or dont sit with the dead ones for days(ebola).

          Iran is a good example. The Goverment denied to follow the good doctors they have. It was much more important with happy new Years, visiting Qaum crowding and good contacts to China by airplane.

          The doctors has no hance to save lives there, when You also has to add, that up to millions are hit at the same time. The medical boycut here by USA is only a small thing even very bad.

          Iranian doctors, nurses and hospitals might treat 1 million extra for a period but certainly not 10 millions.

      • PZIVJ

        Your spell checker does not catch this Jens:
        ” The bird flew over my house” and ” He caught the bird flu virus while flying to Denmark”

        • Jens Holm

          I am not sorry about it. 2 years ago I had now been writing a single line in English sice higshool many many years ago.

          I can now.

          But thanks for the corrections. I might use “influenza” next time. I hardly ever use spell checker. But I read and of people dont understand or I dont, I do as here and say thank You.
          …………………………………………….

          Its the other way too. So many in the muslims non alchohol world think sober only is “not drunk”.
          ……………………………………………..

          I will “flew away”

      • JIMI JAMES

        It’s a man evolved curse,just like the main whom in europe ex or post aidz clientels!
        No wonder the good book warned of such abonimnations,but you never read anything good have you?I thought not!
        As for china population remains well over 1.4 billion,They dealt with the hit + still won!

    • Arch Bungle

      Yes, but production of deadly bioweapons by a state hell bent on destroying China had nothing to do with it right?

      “There were great fears a few years ago when American scientists recreated the Spanish flu virus that killed around 50 million people in 1918. They spent nine years on this effort before succeeding, and now large quantities of this virus are stored in a high-security government laboratory in Atlanta, Georgia. More recently, scientists have created a mutated super-strain of the deadly H5N1 bird flu virus that is directly transmissible among humans and would have at least a 50% kill rate, spawning fears in 2005 of a global pandemic that might kill hundreds of millions.”

      • Ivan Freely

        Arch, it was created in the US. No doubts the Pentagon got a hold of a sample.

        Search for a 2015 article titled “Engineered bat virus stirs debate over risky research“.

        Excerpt:

        “An experiment that created a hybrid version of a bat coronavirus — one related to the virus that causes SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) — has triggered renewed debate over whether engineering lab variants of viruses with possible pandemic potential is worth the risks.

        In an article published in Nature Medicine1 on 9 November, scientists investigated a virus called SHC014, which is found in horseshoe bats in China. The researchers created a chimaeric virus, made up of a surface protein of SHC014 and the backbone of a SARS virus that had been adapted to grow in mice and to mimic human disease. The chimaera infected human airway cells…”

    • Peter Jennings

      Nothing to do with american servicemen infecting Wuhan market then?

      I’m glad that’s all cleared up.

      • Free man

        You and people like you can continue to believe in ridiculous conspiracy theories. But sane people understand exactly what’s going on.
        One has to be a very stupid person to believe that the US is deliberately destroying its economy.
        I’m not saying this is a Chinese biological war. Even though, miraculously, the plague almost stopped in China (probably a lie). But I do say they could have prevented the plague. But their policy of concealment and falsehood, and of Iran, has caused the spread of the virus worldwide.

  • RichardD

    Approximately 20,000 people have died in the state where I live and work over the past 3 months. Which is the former epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak here in the US, where we’ve had it as long as China. Of the 20,000 here who’ve died during that time. 175 died of the virus. The other 19,825 people died of other causes.

    The evidence is prima facia that the Italians are vastly overstating the number of virus deaths. How many others are doing the same thing?

    “I want to stress that they have died having coronavirus, not because of it”, the head of the country’s Civil Protection Department, Angelo Borrelli said at a briefing.”

    – Italy’s COVID-19 Death Toll Surges by 627 to 4,032 Over Past 24 Hours – Health Official –

    https://sputniknews.com/world/202003201078637968-live-updates-coronavirus-cases-top-245000-globally-death-toll-surpasses-10000/

    https://twitter.com/andrewbostom/status/1241537942159536128?s=20 6

    • PZIVJ

      Washington state is on a much lower trajectory than New York state.
      Current deaths now at 517 but it is still early on in the outbreak there. The current curve shows this number will double about every 2.5 days unless the curve is flattened out soon. Imagine what could happen with no lock down, the heath care system would be completely over whelmed like in Italy.

      • RichardD

        NYC had a population density of 27,000 people per square mile. Social distancing and lockdown is ineffective under those densities according to multiple sources, including the governor of NY.

        I don’t think that the Italians are the only ones vastly overstating the comorbidity deaths as virus deaths to fuel the hysteria and obtain financial assistance to offset their imploding economies resulting from committing economic suicide.

        • PZIVJ

          New Jersey state also has a density problem. I noticed NY governor made some crazy statements like: “half the state population will catch this virus”. This I call responsible fear mongering to keep people from gathering together. I recall your governor did some of the same early on.

          • RichardD

            If you choose to live in the less than 1/1000th of 1% areas on the planet that are the most densely populated like the tri state NYC metropolitan area. Which is also near the bottom of ICU beds and hospital surge capacity per population in the US. Then you shouldn’t be surprised if a new disease runs through your population faster than normal.

            This doesn’t justify imploding the state, national and international economies with fanatical hysteria. As the democratic governors hell bent on taking away people’s jobs, human and civil rights and guns are doing. These miscreants are a threat to US national security and are enemies of the state.

        • Jens Holm

          Thats a relative. I looked up NY, which I now know has 8,6 mio inhabitants.

          Up and down in 10% makes 800.000 to treat or not being 800.000 to treat, where 2% will die if the chances are not helped a lot and well.

          Thats 20.000 more or less.

          Even being ineffective because they are crowded makes a big difference for them losing their grandparents before normal time.

          Estimates re done all over the world. The Danish worst case scenario is from 750.000 down to 400.000 and 2% dies. Thats 15.000 down to about 8.000.

          Right now we only has 60 but we have not reached the top of the curve yet. We will in medio april.

          But we do work hard to avoid that spreading and it so far seemes to work some.

          Our Goverment now also debate the after but still some Corona, as well as how we have to open parts of the closed down sectors.

          We are very determinant for the Virus should nor run us and try to make some consesus for more then at least “some” control.

          I can only advice others to do same thing. A lot of things might be changed, but we ceratinly are not colapsed or has attensions for it.

          Doing nothing is doing something too.

        • Peter Jennings

          That bodes well for the UN 2030 plans of forcing more people into ever smaller cubicles inside mega cities. The UN likes to get its sitting ducks in a line.

          • RichardD

            I looked at it. It looks ok on the surface. Is it hiding a malevolent agenda?

          • Peter Jennings

            A doctor recently said that 2 million Brits could be infected. He has since reduced that figure to something lke 20,000.

            I wouldn’t call Boris fit, would you? If he survives his illness, there is either hope for all of us, or we have been scammed yet again.

      • FlorianGeyer

        Our forefathers in most Western nations had the wisdom to build Isolation hospitals all around the major population areas.
        They were largely sold by the various governments for housing etc in the latter part of the 20th century.

        • RichardD

          NY is near the bottom in ICU beds and hospital surge capacity per population in the US.

        • Jens Holm

          Its like that here too. But we can visit small quarantaine islands, where ship crews arrived from far away for some time.

          There its a learning many of them has big grave yards.

      • Peter Jennings

        I feel that most people could have the virus without realising. They will also get over it without realising. The elderly, infirm and the very young need to take precautions, as they should every flu season.

  • anonim

    How dumb can you be? Mortality is not dead/infected is dead/closed cases.
    Brainless being!

  • Godfree Roberts

    Here’s an interesting take on China’s response from Valerie Van Kerckhove:

    I actually find the response by the Chinese government to be extremely interesting. It seems like it’s overblowing the matter on purpose. Considering the low number of cases (compared to China’s population) and low death rates, it feels like the Chinese government is overblowing fears on purpose, with maps filled with dark areas and shutting down everything everywhere (and this is during China’s most important holiday season).

    I suspect it’s practicing for when a Really serious disease breaks out, the sort with people dying like flies. So I find all this fuss quite interesting. We’ve been warned about a potential superbug outbreak for years, and now we can see how the response will look like. No doubt the Chinese government is busy taking notes on what it could have done better.

    Not to mention, I don’t think most Westerners realize just how big Wuhan is, just how significant Chinese New Year is in terms of people moving around and just how many people go in and out of those wet markets every day. That’s like, tens of thousands of people leaving the wet markets, taking public transport then going home to expose all their visiting relatives, and all those people in turn going to all sorts of crowded areas too. With a high enough contagion rate, we’d easily be at 1 million infected. The fact that we haven’t reached such numbers means that this virus isn’t That bad.

    • Peter Jennings

      According to the article, the New England Journal of Medicine says that 1.4% of population is China’s currently death rate.
      What’s 1.4% of 1,439,323,776?
      Either i am missing something or the figures seem to be all over the place.

      • PZIVJ

        1.4% of the population !!
        Well, that changes everything Peter. I will go into lock down, and no more trips to the over crowded supermarkets in search for non existent toilet paper. :/

        • Jens Holm

          Try a spoon or a chopsticker:)

          • PZIVJ

            Actually I will be taking some vacation time.
            This may be my next stop watching heavy haulers move through the Cajon Pass.
            And the terrain will be springtime blooming, the rocks in the rear are called the Mormon Rocks. So you just stay at home and be safe :)
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a6cb0b46f97966961072f0a27c5ae86645245466f6b6eec062b6172b5479dd04.jpg

          • Jens Holm

            I hope You are the driver

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EifuIusVOk or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xNgi7H9bHg

            Green is best. Real rabbits are never seen with glasses

            My own plans for the summer will be many weekend vacations and probatly alone with my small tent. I have the coast line not far away as well as some forrest with small lakes. This Year I might buy a fishing admission and prepare the many catched ones on fire there.

            https://www.summitpost.org/mormon-rocks/270028

            Dont forget loader for Your photo.

          • PZIVJ

            This is the main route for cargo between LA and Long Beach ports and Chicago and other points. The 3 rail lines wind and turn to decrease the grade. Being close to one on the uphill one can feel the vibration of the engines working hard and smell the diesel. Sometimes there are some helpers attached to the rear also. On the downhill the engines can use dynamic braking, The wheel motors are turned into electrical generators and the heat is burned off on a resistor grid on the roof.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhq1bMRRc1s

      • Godfree Roberts

        Wait til the dust settles. Everybody is counting differently (and legitimately so). America’s CDC has stopped counting completely and refuses to release any stats or the identity of Patient Zero

        • Jens Holm

          Its a different strategy. We had that. If You dont feel well and maybee has Corona, You go home and isolate Yourself.

          By that You dont spread the influenza if You have it. You might even only has catched cold.

          Its not so bad. If You have a normal influenza or a mild corona, You dont need a very busy doctor. If You are really bad an ambulance will bring You to a hospital.

          I will remind You that it also takes a lot of ressources to test people and those testers also can bring corona themselves. Another thing is, there are not enough test tools aty all.

          I hope You understand what they do makes sense.

          There is no patient zero apart from China. One airplane with one contaminated can bring 180 passangers, which spread out and spread out 181 new places, which each can do the same thing by touch and like that.

          Many places are like USA. So many travel every day and each can be a contaminator.

          To me the last patient is the important nymber one. I only know Jesus being able to wake up the dead ones.

          • Ricky Miller

            I’m embarrassed for you that you followed up such a thought provoking and adult comment with your standard overblown gibberish. Mr. Robert’s comment is a great example of what the SF comment board could be and your nonsensical spam is an example of everything that’s wrong with it. Many are trying to lift up our conversation and our understanding, while you busy yourself with dumbing down our discourse. Go away.

      • Jens Holm

        Yes, You missed some brain failure inside Your head.

        Most people know the 2% are among the contaminated ones only and the main job in front is to reduce the % of contaminated with relative simple tools.

        Part one hardly need doctors but the isolation rules for the virus or bakterias are kept hard because Yoiu trust Your Goverment ir a forced to by them.

    • Ivan Freely

      People are talking about Event 201 hosted by Bill Gates and whatever his foundation is called. BUT, if this was a practice run, we wouldn’t have casualties among the medical staff. IF everything was fake, can you imagine on what the people would do to their respective governments?

      • Godfree Roberts

        What Valerie meant was that Beijing had been waiting for an opportunity to implement its emergency protocol.

        It could have ignored Covid-19, as the US and the UK planned to do but, instead, chose to make it a full-on war. Now they know what they can do with an outbreak whose transmission efficiency (R0 value = 2-5) is high compared to MERS (0.3-0.8) and SARS (2-4). In terms of virulence, MERS is the strongest, SARS is the second strongest and Covid-19 is the weakest.

        So they did well against an opponent that spreads strongly but kills weakly.

  • AM Hants

    Off topic. Anybody heard that the German Finance Minister committed suicide. His body was allegedly found by some rail tracks.

  • Arch Bungle

    “There were great fears a few years ago when American scientists recreated the Spanish flu virus that killed around 50 million people in 1918. They spent nine years on this effort before succeeding, and now large quantities of this virus are stored in a high-security government laboratory in Atlanta, Georgia. More recently, scientists have created a mutated super-strain of the deadly H5N1 bird flu virus that is directly transmissible among humans and would have at least a 50% kill rate, spawning fears in 2005 of a global pandemic that might kill hundreds of millions.”

    • Lone Ranger

      Terror state U.S.

      • Jens Holm

        You do nothing about it. When I tell what You should do, I am told thats I am a liar its impossible and I am named as Mossad, Jew, Zinoist, troll, motherfucker and a long list from the deep dark selcreated state insode You.

        I have stopped feeling peety for most people writing that here. Most of it is Your own fault and You insist in no change.

        Therefore “terrorstate US” makes no sense.

        You whip Yourself, feel pain and blame others. Thats what it is. This is not psycopats against victims but more like Munchausen by proxy or Bonzai created by some God or fatalist dreamer.

        • Lone Ranger

          Are you on LSD?
          Be honest…

          • Jens Holm

            No, I am on my wife. She is snorring and I can have 2 fingers at my PC.

          • Lone Ranger

            So you are using your wife as a pillow?
            Interesting…

          • Jens Holm

            Not exactly. I hope it wont be triplets.

          • Raptar Driver

            Poor woman, free her now!

          • Jens Holm

            She is:)

    • Peter Jennings

      Gov’ts messing around with viruses is, they say, for the safety of the public. This is only half the truth.

      • Jens Holm

        No its not.

    • Jens Holm

      And then they made You from it and made You into a mutant cartoon.

  • Areu Awake

    We need to do more research outside, not behind the computers. People should go to their local hospitals and morgues. They see what many people in different cities (even in New York, supposedly in crisis) have noticed. Contrary to what MSM and the government claim, morgues are not full, hospitals are not full of people affected by the virus and there is no panic. There is also no shortage of equipment. These numbers do not correspond to reality. Social distancing is about being at home, going nowhere, seeing nothing, and believing in government and MSM. Until the quarantine is announced, we still have the opportunity to verify it. If the government and MSM numbers are wrong, there is no need to declare quarantine. Why do they lie and want to quarantine us? Nothing spreads like fear!

  • Raptar Driver

    The true fear is the U.S. BEAST system is so powerful that it shut down the entire world on the most flimsy of pretextes.
    This is power, never seen before, no one is safe or free from this point onward.

  • Lazy Gamer

    European number of deaths say otherwise. If you think this is all a joke, then maybe you all can volunteer to be in the front lines