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Overview: Ukraine’s Progress In Kharkiv Region & Shelling On Russian Territory

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Overview: Ukraine's Progress In Kharkiv Region & Shelling On Russian Territory

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As of May 16, the front lines in Ukraine resemble a zigzag line. It follows the line west of Izyum – west of Balakleya – east of Chuguev – northwest of Volchansk. Clashes are reported in the village of Rubizhne located to the north of Stary Saltov, in Liptsy, near Cossack Lopan.  The Armed Forces of Ukraine have recently reached the Russian border in several areas north of the city of Kharkiv. They are currently moving towards the border town of Volchansk on the Ukrainian territory.

Another important battlefield in the Kharkiv region remains the area of Chuguev. The front lines have remained unchanged. The Russian units hold their positions along the Primorskoye — Grakovo — Balakleya line. The Russian missiles are striking at the AFU military positions in the city, including the military airfield nearby. An offensive operation of the Ukrainian military from Chuguev may threaten the rears of the Russian grouping deployed in the Izyum area.

On May 15, Ukrainian fighters of the 227th battalion of the 127th brigade of the Kharkiv Territorial Defense Forces reportedly went to the border with Russia. Information about this was confirmed in the Ministry of Defense, and the soldiers themselves recorded from the border area an appeal to the President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky. The video recorded by the Ukrainian servicemen was mostly another PR campaign as it is clear that there were no clashes in the area. Nevertheless, it has a great impact on the Ukrainian and Russian public.

“Mr. President! Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine! We report. Today, May 15, the 227th Battalion of the 127th Brigade of the Territorial Defense of Ukraine has reached the border, the border, the dividing line with the Russian Federation, with the occupant country. We made it! We are here, there is a border guard with us,” said the battalion commander.

 

The mayor of Kharkiv, Igor Terekhov, told the BBC that Russian troops are withdrawing from Ukraine’s second-largest city. The Russian military did not enter the city, but held the positions on the city’s outskirts.

According to Terekhov, Kharkiv had not been shelled for five days. During that time, Russian troops made only one attempt to launch a missile at the Kharkiv airport, but it was shot down by Ukrainian air defense forces.

“The Russians constantly shelled Kharkiv because they were very close to the city. And thanks to the efforts of the territorial defense and the AFU, they moved far away from the city in the direction of the Russian border,” Terekhov said. – Now it’s quiet in Kharkiv, people are already returning to the city.”

However, the claims of the mayor were denied by local residents, who massively commented on the social media warning that there was still daily shelling in some districts of the city, especially the Severnays Saltovka district, warning civilians against returning to their homes.

The tactical withdrawal of Russian forces from the region has recently slowed down, and the Russian units managed to carry out some counter attacks. On May 15, Russian artillery attacked AFU positions near the town of Dergachi located on the northern outskirts of the city of Kharkiv.

In turn, the AFU general staff reported that the Russian military has not carried out any active operations in the Kharkiv direction, as its main efforts are concentrated on the withdrawal of troops from Kharkiv and retaining the occupied positions and supply routes. Earlier, the general staff of the AFU claimed that the Russian army focused its efforts “on countering the Ukrainian counterattack towards the border and preserving its supply lines to the north and east of Kharkiv.”

However, the AFU also suffer some difficulties and their advance in the Kharkiv region has almost stopped, amid the Russian advance on the Donbass front lines. In the last two days, the Ukrainian mobilized units fighting near Kharkov were redeployed in order to support the 30th and 56th  Mechanized Brigades of the AFU, which suffered significant losses during the fighting in the Donbas.

The retreat of the Russian units from the Kharkiv outskirts allowed the AFU to deploy missile systems close to the Russian border.

The US-made M142 HIMARS have been reportedly spotted near Kharkiv for several days in a row, but the claims are yet to be provided with any footage from the spot.

Overview: Ukraine's Progress In Kharkiv Region & Shelling On Russian Territory

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More foreign weapons were discovered by the Russian Guards in the Ukrainian positions near Kharkiv. they included:

  • Polish RPG-75 anti-tank grenade launchers;
  • American Javelin ATGMs;
  • Czech RPG-76 anti-tank grenade launchers;
  • Swedish AT4 anti-tank grenade launchers;
  • British ATGM NLAWs;
  • Ukrainian semi-automatic self-loading rifle Zbroyar Z-15 (hunting and sports carbine).

 

As a result of the Russian retreat, the shelling of Russian territory by the AFU continues.

The settlement of Sereda in the Shebekinsky urban district near Belgorod was shelled from the territory of Ukraine, according to the regional governor Vyacheslav Gladkov. One civilian was injured and received a shrapnel wound.

So far, the shelling in the Belgorod region has damaged 280 homes, local authorities said. There were also 85 vehicles damaged, including agricultural equipment, cars, and trucks. The most affected objects are in the Belgorod district.

Ukrainian troops are shelling the Belgorod region on a daily basis. The city of Belgorod is one of the main targets. However, the Russian air defence systems are intercepting almost all the attacks over the city.

In response to the recent attacks, at least 4 rockets were launched from Belgorod towards Ukraine on May 16.

 

At this point, the variable successes of both armies in the Kharkiv direction can be noted. On the one hand, the AFU army reached the border with Russia, repelled Russian soldiers from the city of Kharkiv, deployed US rocket launchers. The war may reach the Russian soil.

However, the Ukrainian victories in this direction risk to turn into another media victory rather than a strategic success. The both sides have not enough forces in the region to carry out a decisive blow, and they both are actively transferring their forces from the Kharkiv region to the Donbass front lines. The Russian army’s lull can be characterized by a reorientation in logistical and strategic matters. So far, the Ukrainian soldiers have reached the Russian territory in several small areas, that are not enough for any massive assault on the Russian military facilities in Russia. The efforts of the small Russian-led grouping remaining in the Kharkiv region still matter. However, the further developments should not exclude the Ukraine’s attack on the Russian territory.

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john

I wonder what the plan is, now that it is 100% implemented!

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BanderiteLivesDon'tMatter

same plan as day 1, hasent changed yet, I’m sure Vlad will call you up personally when it does. until then, expect the same plan. kill ukrop nazis, take land from them, give it to Russian Ukrainians, like Khrushchev creation of ukraine as a state was planned as the original reward for their loyalty destroying german nazis during WWII. I think you will notice if the plan changes.

Crazy Canuck

So I guess the plan failed and will backfire on the real Nazi Russian invaders that started this WAR.

Sane

A real Nazi Canadian Ukrainian, what plan, the one that only you knew about?

Jim

shut up faggot

jens holm

I kind of like faggots verry much. They don’t make children and pay taxes.

Inquisition

We have some good mental clinic not far from me in Heidelberg, i recommend you to visit it together with Ms Baerbock .

Wayne Gabler

I was wondering when the Rothschild World Bankers would make an appearance on a topic they hatched some time ago, maybe as far back as 1300AD when you look at the history of Europe before and after the Dutch Slave Traders began to ‘expand their borders’ through violent means.

William Wallace

What the fuck are you talking about? UKRAINE STARTED THIS WAR. USA STARTED THIS WAR. CANADA STARTED THIS WAR.

BanderiteLivesDon'tMatter

Awww soooo butthurt you picked the losing horse, HILARIOUS

joe9211

yes, we see how much land they take from the ukraine ;-) kiew, charkiv and many other regions have been taken and then they gave it back to allow the Nazis to kill all russian speaking persons in this area – this is the best possible way to protect russians in the ukraine .. what a shame, it’s like putin would kill them himself ;-(

BanderiteLivesDon'tMatter

lol none of which are in the south. Taken more land in 2 months than Ukraine managed to take in 9 years yup. thems the facts jack. suck it up

Rayan

It’s the pattern speech of Dmitry Peskov, for instance. He and other dumbs need being dismissed so long time ago.

Antistupid

God’s Ways are Beyond Human Understanding. And since Putin is their God……

Wayne Gabler

. . . only to people who find parts of the Bible ‘confusing’. Just sayin . . .

Analyst

The “plan” is to take the Donbass and try suing for peace.

It is dubious that it will happen (taking the whole Donbass), even if it would, the West forbade zelensky any further peace talks.

So, yeah, it will leave Russia with holding the bag. more and more and more weapons, equipment and money will flow into ukraine, to bleed the Russians dry.

The “plan” is a spectacular failure of Vladimir Vladimorovich, and all the ass-kissers that surround him.

Curiosity kills the cat

Wasn’t it Macron who requested Zelensky to relinquish control of some Ukrainian soil to give Putin the chance of a face keeping peace treaty? Macron gets bashed for that in the western media.

If Russia can fully secure the Luhansk and Donetsk regions surely is questionable, seeing the results so far. Inching forward is not decisive.

Meanwhile the first western heavy weapons systems are arriving, giving the Ukrainian side artillery range advantage already. In one or two months the AFU could muster massive numbers of western heavy weapons. What will such developments result in. Will Russia be able to withstand the Ukrainian side then? And if, how?

Nomore

Russia could declare war on Ukr and mobilize 1.5 milion personal if needed

Curiosity kills the cat

A war it is anyway by international laws, Russia only abides to its internal laws.

But how likely is it that Russia would mobilize? There are economic impacts to be considered too, especially with 17% inflation ratio for April.

How would this affect equipment and logistics for Russia, as it already now struggles to keep its forces supplied accordingly. More soldiers puts a greater burden on the traffic infrastructure too. Furthermore, more soldiers and equipment too mean, easier targets for the Ukraine, as large formations are difficult to hide.

How would this really affect and change the current situation?

Paco

The impact depends on the general economic situation. If the western sanctions have the impact that the NATO expects, than a general mobilization might be even a solution for the economic problems. Better 1,5 million soldiers and fully working military industry than millions of starved and angry people…

Curiosity kills the cat

Russia is exporting food, not a good example. The main issue is, right now many Russian soldiers are using outdated equipment. How much equipment does Russia really have in working conditions?

A mobilisation would add a lot of pressure on the economy, as the military will need a lot of supplies on a daily basis. Not even counting new weapons systems. How far is Russia able to provide that?

How many soldiers can be supported at the field, how many supplies can be delivered, even when the rail network breaks down?

It’s not so easy to put 1.5 million men under weapons. Especially as large formations are large targets too these days.

Not sure how long Russia could deal with such a situation, considering the rather frustrated military too. Another unknown is how the society will receive such a development?

Kvass Boss

Indeed, Curiosity, I had this talk with someone who was saying Ukraine could put 19,000,000 soldiers into the fight. That’s a monstrous number, and Ukraine just doesn’t have the economy or the equipment to do it. There is no shortage of images and videos of their reservists being sent to fight with either old or incomplete gear, scrounged weapons, and so on. It is fully feasible for Russia to fully mobilize and commit up to 200,000 further soldiers to Ukraine, that is a reasonable number of troops to be able to field and support. That would also be a number that would push over the remaining resistance. A fully mobilized war is a serious economic undertaking, and to fully use the population requires a sweeping and expensive retooling of the entire economy.

Curiosity kills the cat

Interesting point of view. But remember, a lot of Ukrainians are simply manning checkpoints and are employed to guard the rear. No need to give them up to date equipment. The territorial forces get some better equipment already, but they are in the rear of the regular forces only too.

If the Ukraine can field 1.5 million men at the same time that would be a lot already. Anything above won’t serve a meaningful purpose anyway, true.

Chessmaster

Not with Putin in power. He is a liberal poser not a war leader. His incompentent SMO is a special desaster. Russia has the needed firepower and manposer for a full scale war in Ukraine but the small Vlad still prefers kneeing in front of his WESTERN PARTNER and FRIENDS: I ve never heard last 30 years one western politican saying our eastern partner respectivly friend Russia. Only hearing small Vlad and his wanabe diplomat Lavrov.

Clyde

Russia has been conducting operations across a front of hundreds of km, having liberated thousands of square km of territory from the failed Ukrainian CIA project. They continue to pound the Ukrainian forces who still occupy fortified defensive lines established over the last eight years in the east and south-east. There is no evidence whatsoever that the Ukrainians have any capacity to actually repel or halt the Russian advances.

Curiosity kills the cat

The Ukraine didn’t have the capacity to halt and repel Russian Forces at Kharkiv and Kiev, nor Mykolaiv, where Russian Forces already had been at the cities outskirts?

jens holm

You must be blind. Ukras has no choise. The defence exhaust the Russians very well.

Your 1000 km2 of taken land seemes not be as when the saints are marching in.

You probatly will see some changes. Now the ukras almost has enough artillery and more long distance stuff. They seemes to be able to use it as well.

hmm

you are both blind and braindead

Wanax

And you are so grown up and well mannered as well as eloquent. Virtues which we so often detect by our Putinistas.

hmm

tampax and you are jens’ retarded transgender wife, another blind and braindead imbecile

jens holm

We are vaccinated against something like You.

jens holm

Thanks

jens holm

I didnt know we were that related

FlorianGeyer

Well said, Clyde.

Cid

Such a analysist.

What make you think that the West will not bleed dry before Russia? I mean, it is not difficult to see how have the natural resources and energy for its industry and who does not have.

I am sure you have eyes to see that Russia did not bomb all roads and railways in eastern Ukraine, having resources to do it.

Don’t you think that there is a reason for it? Or your small brain conditioned by propaganda to think that western politician (that demonstrate time after time their stupidity) have a better plan that people that won them in Georgia, Crimea or Siria.

jens holm

Its decided we do it. Its of importance and we are determinant.

We dont care half a Turkeish tourist camel much much or little You bombarded there.

We saw what came. And its OUT. GET THE F::::G OUT. ENOUGH is ENOUGH. OUT.

You dont decide for us, Ukraine, Belarus by created erections as in Ossetiaa or like 17,8% before Maidan at all.

We have enough ressources to make Moskva and the rest of Russia to a lake too. None can see Putin is worried about the declining population. He says faster, faster – only 2000 are dead.

CIA bot

AnaI-ist, ass-kissing and ass sucking is your job AnaI-hooker from Huner Biden’s sex dungeon

Wanax

Guys…what is your problem? I mean, one can be of different opinion /s) …but what is that with those western Putinistas and their language full of faeces and abnormal sexual practices? Man, what should the russian think about us?

hmm

tampax your mouth is full of feces and abnormal sexual practices

Suk Me Kok

Stop crying little twat.

DDenney

Is everyone in here 13yrs old?

Kvass Boss

From the Nazis? PlanktonIDidntThinkIdGetThisFar.PNG From Russia? Entrap the forward Nazi elements, encircle Severodonetsk to give it the Mariupol treatment.

KE5

Ukrainian invasion of Russia could completely justify Russia’s cause in the eyes of the world and would allow more extreme measures. However I believe it is to draw Russia into an unsustainable escalation of this war and thereby allow more NATO criminal activity in Ukraine.

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BanderiteLivesDon'tMatter

10 border guards posing at the border before no mans land is not an invasion, its a pr stunt. If them ten would like to meet satan personally, let them enter no mans land and see how fast Russian Border guards will issue them with a free ticket to the meeting. PMSL Invasion…

john

It is a PR stunt indeed, but how is it possible to do it at the border?

Arzt Injektion

The post was mobile !!!

José Oliveira

Either it’s not the border, or some other place of the border without any Russian troops and no conflict, or they used civilian vehicles and clothes and only equiped in the last minute to take the photo.

Who can explain this? Well who can explain the “ghost of Kiev” that never existed, the 13 “dead” on Snake island that didn’t die, the “five unsuccessful river crossings” where the “destroyed” vehicles are still moving, the “Azovstal accomplished mission” that’s just hundreds of guys in a hole surrendering after 2 months, etc? Propaganda during war does not need to be explained, only shown in a way that makes many idiots believe in it…

And that “war” is being won by the West and Kiev inside the West and nowhere else. +45 thousand dead soldiers (near 40% of them UkroNazis), Kiev surrounded in a few days to force negotiation while Kherson and Zaporijia oblasts were conquered, 95% of Lugansk liberated, Donetsk cauldron being closed on the back of 8 years old well entrenched defensive lines, missiles hitting bulseye all over the country destroying supply lines, infrastructure, and newly arrived equipment, etc. But they’re winning the PR “war”…

I guess when the West and Kiev no longer have grain nor gas, they’ll eat the propaganda papers, and stay warm by slapping each other… I wonder what will fall first: Odessa or the Western governments that are shooting their own people in the foot, torturing Assange, dealing with Turkey’s demands, and with a main stream media that seems controlled by Goebbels.

BanderiteLivesDon'tMatter

step one, walk to border post, step two, take picture, step three walk back to border hut and have more grasshopper soup. if ukropts find that difficult they have bigger problems than Russia.

jens holm

It makes no sense to stop there stunt or not.

I makes sense 2 make Kharkov free of orfnary artllery shelling. Thats no stunt.

I also makes a lot of sense, if they can stop or delay the Belgograd – Izium supply line. They now can put the railway line and also some smaller roads there under constant fire.

Thats how I see it.

Vlad

youre such an Idiot war mongerer like so many others here, thirsty for slavic blood. So many of you anti slavic SF readers call for a nuclear strike because you want to russia and ukraine to be earased by a nuclear war. But also your countrys will be earased then. If one side will start with this shit- we will ALL be gone. get this in your head- assholes.

herpy

exactly, Putin himself stated mutliple times that a nuclear war will not have any victors. A russian nuclear strike, besides being genocidal madness, would likely be the end of Russia if not the entire northern hemisphere. A nuclear strike for some ruins in the East of Ukraine?

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No victors is better than USNATO victory.

KE5

Unsustainable escalation means economically unsustainable. to bankrupt Russia and throw more lives away unnecessarily in this cause. I want peace here the Satanic leadership of Ukraine and the Globalist NATO make it impossible..

jens holm

Several here dont understand how big even small nuke bombs are.

jens holm

Several here also dont understand how big even small dildos are.

jens holm

Thats not me jens holm Danmart but Yuri gag gag Gagarin.

Laika and Sputnik use his brain. It almost can control my alrmclock as long as it hs no battery. It takes the time perfect twice 24/7

jens holm

Unsustainable escalation – compared to what?

greta thunberg

to your little sissy dicklet

jens holm

Thats correct 2mm is verry little. My Izium finger is much longer. So is my nose.

Thats I use my nose instead to buttflack my husband.

jens holm

Yuri almost white trash wrote that.

FreeToThink

NATO is not operating in Ukraine because RU (so far) has VETO power in UN . But it is legal to support country that was illegally attacked by Russia.

Clyde

NATO has been operating on the territory of the failed Ukrainian CIA project since the US coup in Kiev in 2014. This is acknowledged in the mainstream propaganda apparatus of the US and vassals. https://globalnews.ca/news/8517110/canada-special-forces-ukraine-russia/

jens holm

Im so tired of that. Do You believe in it Yourself?

jens holm

Im also so tired of servicing Yankee sailors in Aarhus brothel.

jens holm

Not me. I dont wrote this. I never tired of servicing Americans.

jens holm

Gaga Gagarin wrote this too. We try to contact him. After 1812 times repeating it he now can an E in morsecode, if we give a hint.

jens holm

Gaga Gagarin wrote this.

Moon Dog

A Ukraine invasion into Russia would not get too far with no air cover, they are sitting ducks

jens holm

But they do have some aircover. Are You blind or worse? You must be.

What do You cmpare with? Russians tanks and supply or what?

jens holm

read Curiosity kills the cat until You understand. If You still dont read wikipoedia and the many youtubes about it

diagnosis

Now you talk with yourself? Not just extremely stupid, you are extremely insane as well.

jens holm

Some Yuri use my name and in several versions.

jens holm

The cat belongs to some Schrödinger.

Curiosity kills the cat

So far the Ukraine did few mistakes in regards to propaganda and military actions. Otherwise Russia would have steamrolled Ukraine already in the beginning.

It’s doubtful that the Ukraine would move into Russian territory any further than reaching strategic targets within their range of aerial assets and artillery range? It would be surprising if they go beyond that.

The Russian incursion at Sumy surely was supposed to be a reminder that incursions can happen from both sides.

jens holm

That kind of sword has several sides. Who is Russia in this? The ordinary Russians might understand what Putin actually does.

I have written this before. Ukras should take a Krimera Bridge or a couple of TV towers in Moskva.

Why should they just be sitting ducks for eroding their country back and try to avoid that.

I see no crimnal activity by Nato, EU and others. UN has told who the criminakls are in this. We all know Ukras as well as Russians has not kept Minsk 2.

If we didnt there would not be a single russian foot in Ukraine unless it was dead. Putin has sliding and uniting us with them. We many times has told the Ukras to be nicer themself.

But maidan was needed. Ukra to that was runned by some 17,8% Russians by Moskva. Thats not and own country at all.

jens holm

Not me. I dont write such stupid nonsense.

jens holm

Yuri white trash wrote that too. Obvious he has no toilet.

I wrote what I did above his

john

Let us calculate: AFU artillerie range up to 70 km Russian Artillery range: 40 km

AFU can shell without being hit, calorie can not move

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NATO Spy in your page

what do u think can be hit accurately at 40 or 70 km away ? except with smart laser guided munitions.

Antistupid

Guess what: It fires GPS/INS guided munition.

NATO Spy on your page

yea but someone has to be 70km deep in russian territory to GUIDE it

john

No, you can do that remotely with drones and location systems for artillery when it fires

Analyst

No, the Excalibur guides itself.

Analyst

“except with smart laser guided munitions”

You mean the Excalibur guided ammunition? iIt guides itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ2XF_gRgRU

BanderiteLivesDon'tMatter

wow..just wow… you now writing your own fiction? remind me again of how many hypersonic missile systems Ukraine has?

Crazycanuck

And russia has but a handfull left ha ha ha . Russia is done now we take Crimea back.

BanderiteLivesDon'tMatter

really in your mind or you have the up to date munitions expenditure reports? Funny how Ukroptia keeps getting smacked with them daily. INCREDIBLY FUNNY! Boom…Slava…Boom…Slava

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Crazy Canuck

Daily ??¿?? they hardly used a dozen of fake old school super nothing missiles.

BanderiteLivesDon'tMatter

Daily. BOOM Slava…PMSL weak old Mutt ukrops cant do SFA about it.

HB_Norica

You are clueless. Russia has immense stockpiles of 150mm and 120mm rounds pre positioned all over Russia from the Soviet era. They had enough stored to last for years fighting NATO in WW3 and that doesn’t include production post 1990. That’s why they are using mainly unguided artillery against Ukraine … they have so much of it … the modern guided ammo and long range guided MLRS is meant for NATO when they start fighting later in the war.

The reason that Ukraines is now using NATO artillery is because Russia knew where the Soviet era stockpile of artillery rounds in Ukraine were kept and took them out early in the war.

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Moon Dog

Ukraine lost Mariupol, Kherson, Popasnaya, how the hell can they even try for Crimea, Putin would nuke Ukraine before giving it up

Clyde

Who’s “we”? You got a turd in your pocket? Fake Canadian Ukrotard fuckpile.

FlorianGeyer

Lol, thats very funny.

Slave Rossiya.

sod off

You have handful and mouthful of shit from Bidens ass for your dinner lol. You demented bitch can only take your daddy’s dick back in your mouth and stop farting from that shithole.

jens holm

It migh be his hopes

Jens Holmosexual

There is no hope for you stupid monkey just drop dead in that ZOO in Aarhus. They can feed animals with your corpse, be useful for the first and the last time… Although they all get diarrhea 🤢

jens holm

not me.

HB_Norica

True Russian hypersonic missiles are not deployed in great numbers and are likely reserved for a war with NATO or the USA. They launched a few air launched aero-ballistic missiles on Odessa recently as a demonstration and they also demonstrated that the Sarmat iICBM s a working weapon as well but don’t expect these systems to be used in the counter battery role. Why would you waste a weapon designed to take out an aircraft carrier on an artillery piece?

Alex

No amount of artillery will help ukranians cause russians have got pretty tight air defence integrated with their troops, why do you think tochka-u, bairaktars and switchblades turned out to be useless. And not to mention the costs of smart guided rockets lmao

saratogaman

You are right, with such a range Ukraininan artilery may reach outdoor johns in Russian border villages. I’ve always wondered why Russians did not develop public sewer systems in their border villages. Now I do know why. It is cheaper to use varoius johns to collect and disseminate crap.

jens holm

Not even Bill Gates can efford to fire in those ranges.

30 and 25km makes more sense.

HB_Norica

Russian “Smerch and Tornado” MLRS has a range of up to 70 Km with standard munitions and 120 KM with guided munitions. Lets just see how many of these HIMARS and M177’s make it to the front lines before declaring victory. If they start getting forward in numbers expect Russia to declare war against Ukraine and start taking it apart like the USA did to Iraq.

This is no longer a war between Ukraine and Russia. I think that declaration of war is going to happen anyway with the escalation of support and arms that the USA / EU have been giving to Ukraine. This is spiralling out of control. We had a “routine” test of the emergency broadcasting system used in the case of a nuclear war last week. Time to get on Youtube and review those ‘duck and cover” videos from the 50’s.

Analyst

Russian “Smerch and Tornado” MLRS has a range of up to 70 Km with standard munitions and 120 KM with guided munitions.

Russian ground forces received about 30 Tornado-G systems in 2011, replacing the BM-21 Grad.[3] The improved Tornado-S was upgraded with the special GLONASS satellite navigation system used in the Smerch missile system. The Tornado-S has guided rocket rounds enabling it to fire out to 72 miles (120 km). The Tornado-S has a longer range and increased effectiveness, due to the use of new warhead payloads and a reduced launch readiness time of just three minutes. The Tornado-G entered series production in 2013.[4] The system entered service with the Russian armed forces in 2014.[5] The Tornado-S was approved for service in July–August 2016 and started its serial deliveries.[6][7] 20 Tornado-S vehicles ordered in summer 2019.[8] A new order was made in August 2020.[9][10]

20 and an unspecified number ordered in 2019 and 2020. No news about deliveries.

Very doubtful that they have those in anywhere near significant numbers. Their influence in the battlespace is minimal if anything at all.

Vlad the Imposter

Hmmm … The information I have is 180 Tornado G’s and 180 Tornado S deployed which is 360 launch vehicles by my count.

They have them deployed as “reactive artillery brigades” consisting of 3 battalions of 4 launch vehicles. Russia has 5 such brigades with one (79 th Rocket artillery brigade) deployed in the current battle space.

Sending 3 sets of 45 missiles downrange in minutes from 70 km’s out isn’t exactly “insignifigant”

Having another 12 sets of 45 missiles that can be brought in relatively quickly is devastating.

Please note that these reactive artillery brigades account for only 60 launch vehicles … Russia reportedly has another 300 somewhere.

jens holm

That arrived artllery already is used. More will come.

Gomzi

Russian Tragedy , Putin is falling

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saratogaman

He does. For the 378th time since about 2001. If you trust MSM.

BanderiteLivesDon'tMatter

Russia was supposed to fall apart three days after the very first sanctions were placed on it, a few decades back….

Christian J. Chuba

The advance from Kharkiv to Belgorod is useless territory. If Ukraine is able to deploy artillery and shell Russian territory, then that reveals a problem with the Russians. The combination of Russian air superiority and counter-battery fire should make the use of that fancy, new artillery a suicide mission. If Russia cannot suppress it, they have a much bigger problem.

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Putinyahoo

Only losers in denial say what you say. Invading Russia is also useless territory but territory they will take lol,

Vlad the imposter

What Russia is doing are basic tactics used in warfare since the days of Subutai and the Golden Hoard.

The Purpose of the Russian force around karkhpv is to keep the Ukrainian forces defending Karkov from being redeployed to the Donbass.

It doesn’t matter whether they are west of Karkov, in Karkov or north of Karkov on the Russian border the point is they aren’t in the Donbass where the Russians are trying to take ground.

All Russia has to do to “fix” them is keep a force near Karkov. Same goes for Kiev, or Odessa, or Nicoliav … same tactic.

This is how you defeat a numerically larger force with a smaller force …. in this case Russia can’t commit a large force to fight in Ukraine because the main enemy is NATO. Since NATO is now the force doing the fighting in Ukraine expect those numbers … and tactics …. to change.

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jens holm

It always start with RUSSIA CAN DO THIS AND THAT.

Thats very impressing any normal thinking can reach a conclusion like that.

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Brian

Stfu dumb imbecile and go suck off Jens Stoltenberg again.

jens holm

Ok I will. But I return when I finish to say many verry smartz things here.

jens holm

Thats not me.

jens holm

It is a I wrote to Christian J. Chuba.

If so many things were that bad here as so many write, we would have collapsed decades ago.

The dollar aslso didnt collapse three times last weak and we still has debt, which is the base for kapitalisme making the benefits. Debs mainly is invstments, which produce products, service, logistics and wellfare.

It has initaments for improvements. We reward best to the price. That includes we by that motivate people to improve their skills and work hard.

Russian stuff is talket up at the same time. Several 1000 of Russin tanks has been destroyd. It does not matter who they belong.

Facts are they are so easy to destroy.

I have written Your contributionto this. Soo wewill be able to recycle that kind of waste and people making it as well. I hope so.

jens holm

Thats not me. I do not wrote such nonsense ever.

Gomzi

Special Suicide mission it is , now they will lose Crimea also

TopGum

You have anything to back this BS up beside your fantasy on drugs?

Markswell

can you read a map?

Cromwell

Put the crack pipe down.

jens holm

I verry love pipes. All kind of pipes.

jens holm

not me.

NATO Spy in your page

What a shame for Russia, for the Russian Army and for the russian leadership. Some corrupted peasants from Ukra .. managing to push back a nuclear superpower to their borders after 2 months … and the best russian army can clam is “they hold their positions in some places” . If this is not a global scam, it’s a total embarasment for Russia. SHAME ! Wake the fk up !

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Радостин

Come on, the Poles in 1612, Napoleon and Hitler all reached the outskirts of Moscow, which was an important element of the strategy to beat them. The “corrupted peasants” today are under the command of the most expensive military block on the planet. So this is much more than a little war, it is actually the Third World war.

NATO Spy on your page

please don’t tell me the russian strategy is to let ukies get to the gates of Moscow and wait for winter, when they can counter-atack with syberian troops… please don’t say that..

RobinHood

Hahaha, the funniest comment I’ve seen on this page haha

Moon Dog

How do they get there walk lol

jens holm

They borrow the bicycles from the Iranians trying to attack Israel.

The transportation is named as Capt and Gone.

jens holm

They advertice with free metro tickets. the Ukras has to pay everything else in Rubels even the last oil.

jens holm

Thats a very biased version of the worst.

They were asked in because Ukra was runned by Moskva and by 17,8% of the population.

I also allow me to remind USA and 39 other country contribute.

The worst is Putin & Co totally has ignored the many investments we try to improve the country with. Thats the real problem for Ukraine.

It has its own devatstating problems and Russia deny them and us to change them to a better livingstandard in peace,

It here is forgotten USSR made that artifical country moving into the polish zone(west Ukraine named by Stalin as Banderas) and after that even added the 100% Russian industrial zone. Its exact the same pattern done in other new states. The russians are excused to rescue Russians there and the Russians there expect to the rescue.

jens holm

Not me. Youri wrote this.

jens holm

Yuri wrote this.

Vlad the Imposter

Study the battles of napoleon and you can see what Russia’s doing here. This is classic manuever warfare. It’s a pinning operation … Ukraine can advance and retreat all they want … the Russian objective is to Keep those forces from reinforcing the Donbass. It doesn’t matter whether they are deployed west of karkov or on the Russian border … as long as they are there Russian forces are doing their job.

The tactic is called “defeat in detail” look it up.

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Curiosity kills the cat

I would more call it a “binding” tactic, as defeat in detail means splitting up opposing forces. Ukrainian forces however enjoy a center position, enabling them to move faster than Russian Forces can. As neither enjoys complete air superiority, the Russian side tries to force the Ukraine to keep forces in every area of its Russian and Belarusian border (Transnistria), stretching them out.

That however only works out so far, as the Ukraine enjoys a greater manpower pool. Russia can only change that with a mobilisation, or at least partial mobilisation.

Disabling the traffic infrastructure in the Ukraine only has a limited effect so far, mainly delaying delivery of western heavy weapons. In one or two months however the Ukraine will have moved enough equipment towards the Luhansk and Donetsk front anyway? Then the real question will be how the Russian Forces will deal with that. I’m reserving judgement on that, as there are too many unknowns in the equation.

jens holm

Thast the normal and very sober way to see it. But we will see if the Russians can advance and how much in Donbas before that.

I would like to see something else.

My only worry for the moment is the Izium finger. Its a vital for both.

Curiosity kills the cat

The Izium finger most likely will get active again. Probably some forces were redeployed towards Kharkiv for the time being.

Izium will largely define the outcome of the war in the east with Luhansk and Donetsk. Odessa is a different story and will have to wait for the results in the east. At least I would be very surprised if Russia could maintain two major advances.

jens holm

If You say so. I see the russians has no choise.

Moon Dog

Nato has been arming and training Ukraine for 8 years, they are the 2nd biggest army in Europe, not some amateurs.

jens holm

Russia and Ukraine has the samme corruption level.

Russia for many years in many ways has been a deranged declining. Ukraine is even worse. People here in west try to make changes but things are drowned in old days too.

Both has a very infected climate.

But as we see things are possible. The Ukraine miltary forces has been upgraded to a modern defence army. It would nice if the rest could do the same.

Its so difficlt to see solutions.

I have it for other countries. No change for Syria, Turkey, Hungary. As long as countries only prefare onebrainers and makes no alternatives like we do, they are out of order.

Erina

now i don’t understand, why no carpet bombs north of Kharkiv, they are on the border and can kill as many russians as they want so why not a massive bombardment to kill/retreat them to Kharkiv, I understand less and less…

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Curiosity kills the cat

Carpet bombing would be water on the western propaganda mills. It too would alienate the remaining Russian allies, who are already struggling with their positions internationally.

Politics have always interfered with military strategies and tactics, as could be seen in Vietnam too on the US side.

Economic and social considerations are matters too. It’s highly doubtful that anything like that will happen.

jens holm

Curiosity kills the cat? I once had a cat. I made love with that cat and she died. Verry sad.

So curiosity does not kill the cat, anaI sex kill the cat.

Curiosity kills the cat

Politics is the continuation of war by other means. War is the continuation of politics by other means.

Cats are the continuation of hunting by cute means. =)

jens holm

Thats Yuri Gagarin. Laika got his brian. It was not connected.

jens holm

I also had sex with dogs. But not Laika, thats how I call my sister. She looks like a dog and she is commie.

jens holm

Yuri wrote that.

jens holm

In its best, You seemes only to know the Putin version. You really dont get how strong those Ukras are.

They defend themself well. GET IT. Those are the ones, which has retaken terrain. STRONG.

Rayan

It’s a huge annoying to see another avoidable setback by russian forces.

It’s notorious that there were just a few reservists from LNR left into the towns retaken by ukranian forces. And there were just few russian BTGs scattered in Kharkiv’s outskirts.

Southfront since third day alerted serious issues within comand structure of russian forces. There are ridiculous approachs and basic mistakes, some examples:

1. Lack of minimal manpower in so many fronts against the second greatest army of Europe.

2. Soft approach along all conflict. Russian mechanized brigades were just doing a simple ride in the earlier weeks.

3. Just later first month VKS started real strikes against manpower and comand posts of AFU.

4. Absence of central command of this military operation is bizarre. Who is responsible for main tatics? Where is a necessary central comand of operations?

5. The russian soldier are exausted and hindered by awful command. They are true heroes. Chechens are brave and essentials in urban combats whereas citizens from high class in Moscow and San Petersburg are watching this conflict drinking and eating confortably.

Moment for renew much mentality in Moscow.

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Alex

Russian soldiers are not exhausted cause they are being rotated constantly can’t say the same for ukranians and co.

Antistupid

They are rotated. The formers were retired in Ukrainian refrigerators, because Russia did not want them, and are rotated with brand new, fresh cannon fodder.

jens holm

Exhausted is incorrect. It more like they seeems not to know what they are doing and why as well as they might not get the needed supply.

I think its difficult to get verified informations about Russian soldiers and what they do welll and not well.

Having the ukra propagada is fine, but it has biased information and photoshopping.

Crazycanuck

You forgot to say they also dont want to destroy their grandparents home.

jens holm

Typical me deny to understand even normal warfare in old conven sional style.

The russians in classic way were forced to retreat. By that there only was few left.

It was about the same for Kiev or parts of it:

FORCED RETREAT.

Curiosity kills the cat

I wouldn’t say exhausted. I guess “frustration” would be a better term, as the whole campaign and their frontline experience surely didn’t lift up their morale.

It probably is true that reports about refusing commands is exaggerated, but they have merit too.

Antistupid

Nice capture. 5 weapons. And the Ukrainians captured just one. Some Pantsir or how it’s called….

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Frantisek

Who are “we” who are winning?

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Crazycanuck

We will take Crimea back as well and all of the Donbass. The rag tag russian girls cannot do a thing about it . the russians best go home while they are still in one piece.

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Elgar

Russian military men are poorly trained, poorly led and as we are now really witnessing their logistic system doesn’t work at all. What would The Saker and Andrei Martyanov now think?

Putinyahoo

They are led by a Zionist Cocksucker called Putin, whose grandmaster checkers mission looks as successful as his bleeding wound “success” in Syria lol

Alex

There is no ukranian progress, ukkies are trying hard with pr stunts like retaking snake island, pushing towards russian border. Fact is russians are just distracting them from the russian grouping and main battle in Donbas by doing raids around Kharkov. Those russian groups are pretty small, not intended to take and hold areas.

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Putinyahoo

Hahahah the truth bothers you :)

jens holm

I allow me to add ha ha ha. He is bothered.

RandomDude

What a fucking moron you are. The dumbest imbecile not just on this site but on this planet.

jens holm

You do not know everyone on this planet.

jens holm

Ukras not even fight as You assume.

The gamechanger might be the new artillery, which hs been used around Kharkov.

The other one might be the Izium finger. They have to eliminate that.

Donbad is doing relative well even they loose a little more terrain, then they should. They now semmes ti have more artillery and other kinds of flying objekts there too.

RandomDude

Donbad? Izium finger? artillery and other kinds of flying objekts???

Are your real or someone is making parody of you again. You exist on level of stupidity I find it both sad and laughable at the same time.

jens holm

You semmes not to understand: artillery is flying objekt and also I like puting Izium fingers into my Donbad. Old conven sional style.

jens holm

Thats not me.

jens holm

Yuri the spoiler again. I looked in book. It might be ADD.

jens holm

Its normal language where I come from.

Izium is a finger in shape. The front is very strong but a cut anywhere is very bad.

And fx the Ardennes offensive in WW2 also was named as Battle of the Bulge.

I make no joke. I wrote quite accurate. You did understand it was no tanks, flamethrovers or machineguns.

Im informative and seemes to have a higher linx then you. I often visualize. My pupils gets good grades by that – I think.

jens holm

Thats not me. My sister Laika got his brian. It was not connected.

Rayan

By the way there is something strange with russian MOD reports: daily so many weapon systems, so much ukranian manpower are destroyed, there are so many attacks. But there is total lack of capacity to neutralize a territorial defence units used by ukranian forces in Kharkiv!!! It causes outrage and fury seeing so many contradictions.

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probably because it’s all lies about those precision airstrikes :) ukies seem to be doing just fine and winning without air force , cruise missiles or spy satelites.

jens holm

Parts are totally lies. The Russans cant attack with ordinary bombs and hit well. The has wo come in slow and low.

By that they meet a roof of fx Stingers.

The russians only has guided missiles for special special operations. Its because they are very expensive.

jens holm

They were loosing and there was no progress at Izium.

So Kharkov northwest has been reinforcewd and the rest of the leftovers are in the Izium sector.

You has to understand it was the fightings, which made the Russians leave that northern parts of Kharkov. Its very much about the supplyline to Bolgorod.

Too many only see the many big canons and soldiers. They dont work, if the woldiers gets no bread. The Russian military forced are not even made to have long supplylines. It needs a lot of vehicles, drivers and protection for it.

Thats where we see the Ukraine know how again and again.

jens holm

It can be compred with many good examples.

In WW2 USA very fast educated soldiers constant comming in as new ones in a discount version. They were not even near the nazis, they met(tobegin with).

They knew. By that they instead was able to find Nazi targets faster then they arrived. By that they made – for them time – very accurate artilley and airplane strikes.

So when the Nazis attacked, they often already was reduced.

Jens Assholm

You can be compared with horse manure. Although manure is vastly more intelligent and less stinky than you moronic pile of shit.

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jens holm

4 sheep. They might be BAAAH THISTS from Syria or ASsyria.

Rayan

Your analysis is always biased and partial. Weak thinking. Even criticizing russian tatics you need to have fair context. For you every russian detail is a complete disaster and every ukranian tale is perfect. It’s so wrong as well as saying that everything is working according planned.

jens holm

I actually know the whole read army from when it expanded in about 1930. Thats not bias but knowing things well.

I also has studied the changes by USA/Nato and what they and we can do.

Danes unfortunatly has been very active in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya. Here we also has been instructers as well as have used Our sepcialforces.

We have been very active invited by the Bagdad Goverment to be teachers there again.

Here our diciplines has been training small commnaders to be real and independent leaders. We also has learned them to use less bullet better. We also has learned them and Nato with the Iraqian military forces about effective logistics.

So Iknow a lot of logistics around Kiev as well as Kharkov. I see. I dont guess.

jens holm

I have studied the red army since it as the only one lost WW1 three times. I can play most things as a piano. Thats because it hardly hasnt changed anything for decades.

Wasnt the Ukranian army a part of the USSR military forces. Yes it was.

So I see they were able to change by a lot of help. In 2014 the Ukras was nothing.

Russia has changed nothing. No vitals are changed.

I only can recommend You to see the many YOUTUBES about it. There are bunches telling almost the same as I do. Im sure many are more expert then me.

And yes I do have my hopes. Its insane to me at least 50.000 has died and for billions are made in total destructyion in an already poor country in distress.

I have not descriebed Ukras and their tale as perfect. If they were as USSR/Russia they were loosing or had lost.

So I do descriebe what they do right. Thats the news.

I have done exact the same for YPG and ISIS as well as for Azarbaidian.

The pattern for warfare has been exact the same for Assads, Armenia and Russia.

Something else You might not be allowed to see. He is sober:

‘ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQdbLGJusHg ‘

jens holm

There are no contradictions. You are lied for and believe the Russian versions only. Thats the point.

No wonder You must think You are some bipolar. It is.

Ma Laoshi

One keeps hearing that Russia still has huge forces in reserve. Wouldn’t this (or rather two weeks ago) be the time to deploy a couple of them and, you know, protect their country? I know that Moscow likes to talk about a “limited operation” because of domestic politics, but allowing Belgorod to be shelled sounds like terrible domestic politics to me. Not to mention that there were reports that Azov’s Kraken unit was active in this same general area as some sort of punitive battalion; I’d have thought that in Russia’s eyes, they’d be a priority target for extreme demilitarization.

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jens holm

I see the reserve. My best gues is they cant support more active troops then they do.

So when the active dies, they anytime can put new ones in in almost same quaility.

And sure. Its very expected from me, that he Russians also will be met by infiltating guerilla or worse. It makes results and bind troops.

Many more has to understand the Russians cant do as they please. They are not Masters there.

sod off

Drooling imbecile the only thing you see is Joe Bidens anus while you suck it all day long.

jens holm

I will donate my eyes to the Jordrell Bank telskope.

jens holm

The Ukra targets are two. Its getting Kharkov out of artllery fire AND disconnect supply from Belgograd to Izium by road and railway.

Its very strange people dont understand Ukras has to be in fire distance to fx the railroad tracks through Belgograd or disconnect it somewhere east of Kharkov.

By that the distance for Ukra artllery is the artillery one AND its protected. For Belgorad it by that might be 15 km with 20 kn grenades.

East of Kharkov they cant cross the big and wide waters but they CAN reach artllery range and do well. Its a CAN.

The other solution is cutting Izium sout east of Kharkov. It as a harder one. The Russians dont like it. It seesmes they have no Geronimo there.

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Iron Zion

Our Ukrainian brothers are doing us proud. Every single day, the metal of Zion will cut deeper in the terror that surrounds it 🦾🇮🇱

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saratogaman

Of course they make you proud. Little Odessa is notorious for its Jewish mafia. Founder and chief financier of Right Sector Kolomoisky is also a Jew. Zelensky is a Jew. It is quite normal to be proud of criminals. Tells a lot .

jens holm

Turks to the last day the nazis had it exported nikel for the German warfare.

Medo

The wet dream of the Americans is the use of nuclear tactical weapons. Just to break the alliance of China and Russia. They do not care how many victims Ukraine will have. He will soon persuade the Ukrainians. These jerks will do it

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Me: Did you hear the russiand nuked Ukraine? Boss: You are still coming to work, right?

jens holm

One of them already hit You.

Brian

Your husbands dildo hit your empty skull one time too many.

jens holm

None here in the whole world eventalk about ytactical nukes and this. Its a Russian thing.

So when did the Russians hit You ?

Mariupol Is 100% Liberated by the Russians

URGENT! The Azov militants came out with a WHITE FLAG! The wounded are already being taken to the hospital, they have surrendered. Apparently, they do not want to rot alive for the interests of a corrupt fascist drug addict Zelensky and a gang of Western cannibals. And a painted “border” pole in a forest belt can be dug in by a schoolboy…

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Curiosity kills the cat

It seems to be a ceasefire for getting out wounded. But surrender?

Probably a diplomatic effort that at least has limited effect.

jens holm

Next time they come out, it will be with LGBT flags and reggeea.

jens holm

Not me. I support LGBT reggeea.

Curiosity kills the cat

I don’t care which flags they use, but you seem to be fascinated by this topic. Is there something you want to tell us but feel humiliated about?

FreeToThink

What will happen to those DPR/LPR dudes that are trapped between Kharkiv and Russia?

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saratogaman

Nothing.

Curiosity kills the cat

Russia should be careful that they aren’t switching sides, if the treatment reported would be true.

John

Come on Vlad , time for tactical nukes !

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Martillo

yankee assholes do that…or didn’t they tell you in “high” skoooooool?

joe9211

if they are so sucessful with their nuclear weapons as they did until now, we have to fear that the incompetent russian army bombs moscow instead of some area in Ukraine ;-)

mike l hutchings

Read a history of WW1 and WW2 and settle in, this is not over the south needs to be consolidated first. the sea of Azov is a Russian lake

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Marius

Kharkov was and still is the worst front by far since day 1. Entire operation could be different if RuA command in Kharkov was not so criminally incompetent. Kharkov is the gateway to cent.Ukraine, it should have been taken in the first 3 days, with competent command and careful planning and execution. Perhaps more important than Kiev, the entire war could be over by now.

And please, it’s Kharkov, not Kharkiv. Why the f*** even SF use Maidan-ukro names?

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Elgar

No. The whole Russian milary incompetence is revealed. From air force to navy, from navy to ground forces. Their soldiers are poorly trained with wide range. One of the worst cases their hapless NCO’s causing lots of logistic nightmare. For private soldiers whole Russian Army is just big bully. No wonder why spirit is going down.

Martillo

Can you run that by me again, shlomo in Inglish pleeeeZ

jens holm

As always the enemy are sitting ducks even more stupid then Marius himself.

Kharkov has been prepared for 8 years for defence.

BUT THATS CENSURED ASWAY IN YOUR MINFD BY PUTIN. So much is.

Even I has internet far away. But I do know and see the Russian miltary forces has declined a lot. Russia today also is much smaller and has no help in miliaryu matters from DDR and East anymore. They give Russia no money and military capasity as well.

Jens Assholm

Nothing is more stupid than you moronic donkey turd. Except that dead skunk who defecated you by some tragic mistake so you reek here instead to go back to her butt and die already

joe9211

kiew was ghe same ;-( fucking bad work of the russian army leader – they should be in prison or sent to death ;-)

Martillo

Mother Russia’s avenging sons, inexorable, relentless and decided…. willpower like lava churning out of the soul of the nation that cannot and will not be stopped until the last vestige of vermin is vaporized and disappears from the cleansed carcass of a land that should never have been.

Russians are slow to saddle but when they do they ride like the wind.

Let the girly men and manly girls of Natostan and their snaggle-toothed $atanic masters of Pentacon in their Slumville sewer know that they will be destroyed if it has to come to that.

Better NO WORLD whatsoever than one without Mother Russia.

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