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Operation Gyorbagyor: Armenian Forces Eliminated Group Preparing To Attack Shushi

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On November 4, Armenian forces eliminated a large group of Azerbaijani soldiers in the disputed region of Nagorno-Karabakh in a well-planned operation code-named “Gyorbagyor.”

The troops were amassing south of the of the city of Shushi in the center of Nagorno-Karabakh. They were preparing to launch a large-scale attack on the city when they were detected by an Armenian drone, a Russian-made Orlan-10.

After being detected, the Azerbaijani troops were targeted with artillery. A video from the drone confirms that the entire group was neutralized by Armenian forces with pinpoint artillery strikes. Dozens were likely injured or killed.

Azerbaijani troops are currently stationed 12 km to the south from Shushi and less than 20 km away from the city of Stepanakert, the capital of Nagorno-Karabakh.

The Azerbaijani military is apparently attempting to boost its advance on the ground. Earlier today, seven settlements were captured from Armenian forces.

Operation Gyorbagyor highlights the weak points of Azerbaijani troops, which don’t appear to be capable of operating without an air cover. Moreover, adverse weather conditions affect the efficiency of loitering munitions. Armenian forces will likely take advantage of this by planning more similar operations.

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Liberal guy

Nice hit

Potato Man

It say a lot about how bad Armenia need new weapons…drones/jets/etc (they do with what they have well but still over time as we saw before they might lose more grounds).

But we will see Azer lost more troops now tho…as they are right in front of Armenian soldiers.But that is why they got Wahhabi Sunnis…Armenian might start calling Wahhabi Sunnis -> Azer soldiers.

Jens Holm

It takes time to upgrade to drones and different ones. We have seen Assads having a lot of tanks. Even so they most likely still use them wrong.

occupybacon

Right again, Azeri drones are integrated with Turkish radars and this was planned for years. Armenia can’t learn in few days the homework they should have done years ago.

Potato Man

I’m thinking they are just using cheap Chinese made drone now… do we know what type of drone they used. I also recall Armenia making ISIS/Daesh type of suicide drone as well.
Hopefully they get better drones and air defence system.

Kenny Jones ™

This wasn’t even an attack drone, it just filmed how artillery from the ground wiped those troops, so reconnaissance

Potato Man

But reconnaissance drone have much better camera….oh nvm I see what you, it could be just China made drone that Armenia use.

Kenny Jones ™

Chinese quality lol

Potato Man

Cheap shit = shit quality 乁(ᴗ ͜ʖ ᴗ)ㄏ

aces

some artillery shots which are not even close except one of them:))…anyway azerbaycani troops are currently stationed 2 km to the south from shusha…not 12 km…lachin corridor is closed west of shusha…it is also confirmed by armenian sources…
https://t.me/repatriarch/1731
and by anna news…
https://t.me/anna_news/9356
updated map…comment image
https://www.conflicttr.com/

Servet Köseoğlu

Video is blurry like security camera footages and can be only used at conspiracy theory evidence..:))

aces

it is something like 4×4 pixel…such technology loool

Servet Köseoğlu

Armenian op.center..rofl…comment image

Random Dude

Hey, be nice. They can’t afford anything better.

Servet Köseoğlu

well they could afford better things for sure:)))

Roham Pasha

file might be corrupted or taken off a site like twitter or facebook

Servet Köseoğlu

sure..insert coin…lmao…comment image

Smedly

Moron idiot toork don’t know the reason behind it. What morons!

Servet Köseoğlu

enlight me assshooooleeeee…..

Smedly

Nope, your brain is too small to be enlightened. Guess it is more fun to keep you as stupid as you are Arse!

Now look at the results of the strike you moron! Nice crispy BBQ!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd72ohHsZN4

Servet Köseoğlu

owww..how touchy…shall ı cry?…is that your best shot dear?..no arguments, any logical statements.????….pathetic necrophile..you better go to battle-field to make contact with corpses..xD

Smedly

More dead toorks start crying now boy! And please go the the battle field yourself make some pig food out of you, that is your only use pig food!

More dead dead dead! They are all dead!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlLA00kOk5g

Servet Köseoğlu

ahahahah….in fact glorious-battle hardened armenian army is advancing to bakü….what a crank….:)))))

Smedly

Keep cranking them out like nothing, they are all dead!

Wonder how many from this group are still alive one?

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Servet Köseoğlu

yawn…..bro…go masturbate..it will keep you young..ps:since sf didnt ban you…you are one of the golden accounts of sf community..the ones which changing their alias all the time…)))you take my 48 seconds …you are probably russian hmmmm…in your next try you will be blocked…

Smedly

Dumb ass, stupid toork the only one that needs to masturbate is you. As you can’t get laid in a whore house with a fist full of fifties.

I’m Russian? How did you guess this with great brains?…LOL

Now chug along old boy, and take a good look at those special forces of yours that are nothing but pig food now!

Servet Köseoğlu

necrophile..you need a girl-friend..booty one…okey seriously boring bro..you are predictable..dont make any sense..feel free to publish bodies to anyone ı really dont care south-front is your home…but if you ever publish to me again,ı will block you not because its disgusting its deadly boring..

Smedly

Yawn, go masturbate do it now! …LOL

Little toork bitch!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbGYb9Ektdc&feature=emb_logo

Servet Köseoğlu

upppsss….my blocked thug collection is getting bigger……….xD..PS:my mistake ı should block you after your second comment..

Smedly

That must have been the quickest JO session in the universe congrats you are a champion…LOL

Servet Köseoğlu

cry your eyes out cockroach..still commenting bravo sierra… ıq 20 imbecile.. Ha! Let’s repeat again, try to concentrate now, it can’t be that difficult even for a pig like you..you are blocked..???

krokodil

You obviously are a couch potato and have no idea how artillery damage works. Used to pinpoint drone strikes with 2kg warheads on armored vehicles? Now think a 20kg+ supersonic high explosive round hitting bare flesh.

Concrete Mike

All these turkish orcs are good for is cheerleading jabhat al nusrah , twitter victories, and who can insert the most israeli balls into their mouths.

Rhodium 10

What troops a platoon of 20-30?…without vehicles and supplies…

Kenny Jones ™

Those are sabotage groups, not the actual army, you think there is an army left there? A few thousand in the south near the river, and they’ll be wiped during the counter attack soon

RichardD

This is exactly what needs to be done. My guess is that Russian specops are now deployed in Artsahk. With air defense manpads, satcom uplink data feeds, recon and munition payload drones, and precision long range weapons capabilities.

And are coordinating with Artsahk heavy weapons crews equipped with precision munitions. Such as guided artillery shells and rockets. This can be a workable substitute for close air support. Given the terrain and hardened underground fortifications. That the Artsahks have probably built over the decades and centuries of mountain warfare.

Random Dude

And you assumed all that from that shaky drone?:))))
Gotta tell you, you are a very optimistic person. Which is a nice thing. Optimism reduces stress. Doesn’t change much on the battlefield, but stress is gone for sure. Keep it up dude.

RichardD

They’re probably operating this equipment mentioned in the article.comment image

RichardD

This isn’t the type of system that you hand to a neophyte and say have it. And expect significant enemy troop formations to fall over dead.

RichardD

I have this type of equipment. I know from experience.comment image

krokodil

The point of the drone is not shaky/stable or 100x optical zoom or what have you. Give an artillery man exact geo coordinates and I care not which century it is.

Random Dude

I am glad you said that. Otherwise some people look at drones and think it means:
“Russian specops are now deployed in Artsahk. With air defense manpads, satcom uplink data feeds, recon and munition payload drones, and precision long range weapons capabilities”

John Brown

What are you smoking Russia won’t help an enemy. Who would

Armenia lost NK once Pashinyan came to power in a Soros coup and

expressed his wish to Join EU and promoted anti Russian politics (close
of Russian schools banned Russian language TV and radio
channels)..etc.. the days of NK were done!

Azer saw their chance made a silk road railway deal with Russia and Iran and got the green light from Russia and Iran.

Armenia’s leaders have betrayed Russia their only backer and protector who helped them win the first NK war and kept Azer from attacking for 30 years.

Armenia’s leaders have betrayed their own people

RichardD

If the Artsahks have state of the art Russian stealth ecm recon drones targeting the Azeris. Then the evidence indicates that Russia is indeed helping the Artsahks as a counter measure to the Pashinyan color revolution.

Smedly

Enemy? Want Turk twisted logic is this? Enemy is Azerbaijan not only to Russia but Iran. Allied with Turkey and this idiot toork keeps pushing his idiot ideas as if everyone is stupid to believe a word he says.

cechas vodobenikov

no Russian govt now considering Iran proposal that requires Armenia to withdraw from NK

Smedly

LOL! Sure they are, Russia or Iran isn’t stupid enough, nor the rest of the world will let Erdo have this as a win. Please go back to watching cartoons!

John Brown

The Moscow assessment blames the military defeat of the Armenians on the ground to Pashinyan’s anti-Russian strategy since he took power in May 2018. That was an operation, he told the US press at the time, which had “no geopolitical context to our movement, our velvet revolution.”

“Over the past year, the Armenian military lost contact with
Moscow, and all contacts in the intelligence sphere between the two countries were curtailed – and this was done at the initiative of the political leadership of Armenia. During the period of Nikol Pashinyan’s premiership, three intelligence chiefs were replaced, and one of them had no competence and was a purely political appointee from the West. All this was accompanied by internal anti-Russian rhetoric, multiplied by national arrogance…Moreover, over the last six months, in the General Staff of Armenia has been mass dismissal of officers who were trained in Moscow. The ostensible reason
for this was the wedding of the Chief of the General Staff’s daughter, who allegedly ‘did not follow the rules of conduct in the coronavirus pandemic.’”

Pashinyan’s rationale for the dismissal of General Artak Davtyan was announced on June 8. At the same time he also sacked the chiefs of the police and national security administration. That, according to the Russian assessment, left Pashinyan in charge of a command-and-control system which was hollow.

The Azerbaijan President Ilham Aliyev saw the opportunity to strike. “It seems that the Armenian General Staff either did not have a mobilisation plan at all, or it suffers from a number of strange features. For the defence of the ‘mountain fortress’, forty to sixty thousand people are really enough, but this is clearly not enoughfor the organisation of mobile defence. Armenians behave passively, simply fending off threats as they emerge.”

Smedly

All this talk of Pashinyan a lot is coming from Baku or the paid moppet’s of Baku. The real fact of the matter is Azeri’s have cuddled to Turkey in a way that not even Moscow suspected. In fact Moscow has been rater slow to assess the situation at hand and so has Iran. Just today Moscow officially said they see Turkish forces and operatives in direct play. This is huge tone change and public broadcasting of the facts that the Armenian side has been voicing all alone.

The caviar money not just from Baku but Turkey and yes England is far greater than little Armenia. A lot of the things you are spewing hove no basis in reality. I am being bared from showing corps videos, this is by in large part of the videos that I have access too. The reality on the ground is very very different than what is being made by this huge enemy propaganda machine.

“over the past year, the Armenian military lost contact with Moscow”

Fantasy! Pure fantasy! I an not pro Pashinyan for your info but I don’t have my head in the clouds. This has turned into a meat grinder and no amount of propaganda is going to change these facts! The only thing going right now is the land grab portion of the battlefield coupled with severe propaganda that has clouded judgement of many. If you consider just the forces and types of weapons in play it makes it more logical to attribute some huge success to the Azeri’s but this is not the reality, and yes it is not logical to conclude but it is the fact none the less.

The Erdo factor is being discounted by a lot of people. He has lost touch with reality and is daydreaming of a new Ottoman empire. The king has no clothes, and this factor could have contributed to his limited success. Had the blitz been successful perhaps your take on the issue might have merit, however this is the 41st day and let me repeat the amount of corps videos posted daily speak a different reality to what your brief is stating.

You said the same things weeks ago. If we are going to have true conversation I am not going to quote your take from weeks ago. We will speak man to man you don’t sound like a typical Turk or a paid troll, so the risk is mine.

John Brown

Former Minister of Defense of the DPR Igor Strelkov on the air of the NSN explained that near Lachin, the operational crisis among the Armenians is not as acute as near Shusha.

“For the Azerbaijani troops there is absolutely no difference where they intercept the road between Lachin and Shusha and, accordingly, Stepanakert.

They already intercepted it three days ago and interrupted the supply of the entire Armenian grouping east of Stepanakert and Shushi.

That is, now they do not really need to seize the Lachin corridor. They will continue to exert pressure – maybe it works out, on the one hand. On the other hand, sooner or later it will still have to be occupied.

And so the Armenian forces east of Stepanakert and Shushi are in an operational environment.

Since the southern road, one of the two that connect Stepanakert with Armenia, has already been cut. The northern road is also located not far from the front line and under the intense influence of the field artillery of the Turkish coalition, not to mention aviation,” Strelkov said.

He noted that after some time the Armenian forces will experience a shortage of ammunition, fuel and lubricants and food.

“The coverage of Shushi is a serious strategic achievement in this offensive from Azerbaijan,” the former head of the DPR Defense Ministry stressed.

They are on the verge of complete defeat, if they do not unblock the track in the near future. They have not been able to do this for three days, on the contrary, the zone of Turkish influence to the west of Shushi is expanding. We can say that the threshold of defeat has already been overcome,” he clarified.

Smedly

Gloves are off! You are a fake fucker! You are reading directly form AZ propaganda.

We are going to make mince meat out of you keep talking shit! Welcome to hell!

IDIOT TOORK!

John Brown

Armenias Anti Russians Get Their Comeuppance

Defeat Analysed in Moscow as Due to Strategic Failure in Yerevan

The purge of Russian-trained commanders hasn’t worked out so well John Helmer 30 Oct 20 1449
Armenia has lost the October war with Azerbaijan because of Armenian failures in battlefield intelligence,
obsolete defences, and the political miscalculations of Prime Minister Nicol Pashinyan (lead image). His only
allies now are the mountains and the weather.

This is the consensus this week of
Moscow’s leading military analysts. “During the period of Nikol Pashinyan’s premiership,” Vzglyad reported the Russian General Staff assessment on Tuesday, “three intelligence chiefs were replaced, and one of them had no competence and was a purely political appointee from the West. All this was accompanied by internal anti-Russian rhetoric, multiplied by national arrogance. Some leaders of Nagorno-Karabakh have said things like ‘we don’t need the Russians at all, we can walk to Baku without you.’”
“Moreover, over the last six months, in the General Staff of Armenia there has been a mass dismissal of officers who were trained in Moscow.” “It’s probably about time that real purges within the government took place,” Pashinyan had announced in April. According to the Russian assessment, Pashinyan then made the nervous novice’s classic mistake: he reinforced his palace guard against rival Armenians, but underestimated his traditional Azeri enemy and has now lost control of territory.

Smedly

comment image comment image Armenia is the last and only Alley left anyplace!

Sorry to tell Turk idiots the facts. Azeri’s created a very bad situation for Moscow and Iran and Europe and China and the Middle East. You are an idiot of a high order to think anyone believes in official Azeri propaganda it is only useful in the heads of stupid uneducated toorks.

Every time you open your stupid toork mouth I will shut it!

John Brown

Are you high on crack?

Russia won’t help an enemy. Who would?

Armenia lost NK once Pashinyan came to power in a Soros coup and
expressed his wish to Join EU and promoted anti Russian politics (close
of Russian schools banned Russian language TV and radio
channels)..etc.. the days of NK were done!

Azer saw their chance made a silk road railway deal with Russia and Iran and got the green light from Russia and Iran.

Armenia’s leaders have betrayed Russia their only backer and protector who helped them win the first NK war and kept Azer from attacking for 30 years.

Armenia’s leaders have betrayed their own people

Jens Holm

You and Richard are the reason for we let Monsanto and others make genetic modifications.

John Brown

You can take those meds when Armenia surrenders.

Golda

Holm has had a genetically “altered” brain for several years now, unfortunately . .

Jens Holm

Thats right. Its able to learn and improve as well as are kept in shape by antivirus and malwarefighter.

Golda

I rest my case . .

Jens Holm

If You use this one not even Ghostbusters can find You

https://www.avira.com/

Jens Holm

The loosers are the ones, which dont like to kill each other.

I divide people into sober ones and none sober ones.

Kenny Jones ™

Soros you say huh? Read this:
https://infoteka24.ru/2020/11/04/74436/
You get it now? The true plan

Jens Holm

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The photo is taken in Vienna.

Kenny Jones ™

Thanks larper

RichardD

I agree with everything except that Russia won’t help. Pashinyan betrayed both Russia and the Artsahks. The Artsahks need Russia’s help in a life or death struggle. Helping them would give Russia an Armenian ally to help with the Pashinyan color revolution problem.

Stev60

True, I said it elsewhere.

Golda

Russia will always defend Armenia. The alternative is to allow the madman of Ankara to gain further traction in the South Caucasus. russia will allow Armenia to suffer a bit and learn its lesson of appreciation of Russia, then will start helping them. Another “frozen conflict” is good for Russia, as it keeps Armenia in heel, but also stifles Turkish expansionist dreams . .

Stev60

No more ‘frozen conflict’ bullshit, this issue needs proper settling along lines I set out elsewhere, or else!

cechas vodobenikov

Russia will not help NK

Stev60

You again Cohn Clown? Artsakh falls with Russian ‘help’, Russia loses Europe, Ukraine, Belarus, Georgia, Armenia, and more, for good, guaranteed.

Kenny Jones ™

I give it a few weeks before the map is back as it was before the war, now there are probably a few thousand Azeris there, and they will all be wiped
A counter offensive can go till the river deep into Azeristan, but that’s another story

RichardD

It looks like the Artsahks may be setting up a kill box. The Azeris are in great territory to get ambushed. I’ve run specops missions in that type of terrain. It’s a good way to killed if your adversaries know that you’re there and are waiting for you.

Kenny Jones ™

This will go in history books of warfare I’m telling you

Fog of War

This is no kill box. The NK forces had thirty years to entrench themselves and build fortifications in very mountainous regions. Every attacking army would take heavy casualties trying to take that area, including the Russians and ZioAmericans, and especially the inexperinced

RichardD

It looks like the Azeris are coming up a valley surrounded by Artsahks controlling the surrounding high ground. If that’s the case. It’s a classic kill box. If the Azeris control the ridgelines to the valley that they’re progressing up. Then they’re in a better position to protect the advance. But in the age of drone directed long range heavy weapons. Even that might not help them.

John Brown

Armenia’s Anti-Russians Get Their Comeuppance – Defeat Analysed in Moscow as Due to Strategic Failure in Yerevan

The purge of Russian-trained commanders hasn’t worked out so well

Armenia has lost the October war with Azerbaijan because of Armenian failures in battlefield intelligence, obsolete defences, and the political miscalculations of Prime Minister Nicol Pashinyan. His only
allies now are the mountains and the weather.

This is the consensus this week of Moscow’s leading military analysts. “During the period of Nikol Pashinyan’s premiership,” Vzglyad reported the Russian General Staff assessment on Tuesday, “three intelligence chiefs were replaced, and one of them had no competence and was a purely political appointee from the West. All this was accompanied by internal anti-Russian rhetoric, multiplied by national arrogance. Some leaders of Nagorno-Karabakh have said things like ‘we don’t need the Russians at all, we can walk to Baku without you.’” “Moreover, over the last six months, in the General Staff of Armenia there has been a mass dismissal of officers who were trained in Moscow.”

“It’s probably about time that real purges within the government took place,” Pashinyan had announced in April. According to the Russian assessment, Pashinyan then made the nervous novice’s classic mistake: he reinforced his palace guard against rival Armenians, but underestimated his traditional Azeri enemy and has now lost control of territory.

RichardD

Whatever the reasons, Pashinyan is a traitor.

The Artsahks are unlikely to be anti Russian. When it’s their only hope in the face of Pashinyan’s treason.

John Brown

The are Artsahks and Armenia are anti Russian. So own it.

It will only get worse until Armenians admit this and do something about it.

RichardD

Why would they be anti Russian when they have a defense pact with Russia, Russia has armed them to the teeth and is protecting them from their neighbors?

John Brown

The obsolescence of the Armenian combat equipment reflected also their outdated fighting tactics.

Armenias Anti Russians Get Their Comeuppance

Defeat Analysed in Moscow as Due to Strategic Failure in Yerevan

The purge of Russian-trained commanders hasn’t worked out so well John Helmer 30 Oct 20 1449 Armenia has lost the October war with Azerbaijan because of Armenian failures in battlefield intelligence, obsolete defences, and the political miscalculations of Prime Minister Nicol Pashinyan (lead image). His only allies now are the mountains and the weather.

This is the consensus this week of Moscow’s leading military analysts. “During the period of Nikol Pashinyan’s premiership,” Vzglyad reported the Russian General Staff assessment on Tuesday, “three intelligence chiefs were replaced, and one of them had no competence and was a purely political appointee from the West. All this was accompanied by internal anti-Russian rhetoric, multiplied by
national arrogance. Some leaders of Nagorno-Karabakh have said things like ‘we don’t need the Russians at all, we can walk to Baku without you.’” “Moreover, over the last six months, in the General Staff of Armenia there has been a mass dismissal of officers who were trained in Moscow.” “It’s probably about time that real purges within the government took place,” Pashinyan had announced in April.

According to the Russian assessment, Pashinyan then made the nervous novice’s classic mistake: he reinforced his palace guard against rival Armenians, but underestimated his traditional Azeri enemy and has now lost control of territory.

According to the analysis agreed on by the Russian General Staff, the first big mistake the Armenians made was the intelligence failure in underestimating the effectiveness of the Azerbaijani forces’ combination of highly mobile drone missiles and rockets with long-range howitzers. “Armenia and the NKR should have thought about what was happening in the summer, when sporadic skirmishes began almost along
the entire front line…. Azerbaijan gradually formed two shock corps, which brought together the most combat-ready parts of the entire army, including parts of the deep reserve. Warehouses were built closer to the contact line, and the fuel supply system was supplied. All this could be seen simply
through binoculars, without resorting to complex intelligence manipulations.”

“In addition, the Armenian intelligence did not inform the political leadership of the country of the correct assessment of what weapons, in what quantity and why Azerbaijan has
been buying. Based on analysis of these purchases, Armenia and the NKR could have built a model of military tactics that Baku was preparing to use, and organize counteraction to it.

First of all, this applies to imported drones (UAVs) and the self-propelled artillery supporting the advancing battalion-tactical groups (BTG). This alone would be enough for the Armenian military to understand what was being planned on the other side of the front.”

There has been no Russian confirmation of western reports that Russian Army electronic countermeasures (ECM) have been deployed to assist the Armenian side to neutralize the Azerbaijani drones.

The second big mistake of the Armenians was to present obsolete, fixed-point and insufficient numbers of air
defence units, adequate against a manned airforce attack from the Azeri side, but “useless” against Israeli and Turkish drones. “There are simply not enough air defense systems in the NKR, and there are very, very many UAVs in Azerbaijan. The Armenian side on the ground is suffering heavy losses from the actions of UAVs, especially since the Azerbaijanis purposefully knocked out the positions of the Armenian air defense systems with missiles and long-range artillery… For what reason Yerevan did not bother to re–equip the air defense system and create its own group of drones, this is a question more psychological than purely military.”

The obsolescence of the Armenian combat equipment reflected also their outdated fighting tactics. “The NKR
defense system was based on several consecutive fortified lines, the most advanced of which in the central and southern sectors was built in the 1990s in the plains zone as part of a so-called security belt. This defence worked
well for 25 years. But over a quarter of a century, Azerbaijan and its army have changed a lot. But nothing has changed in Karabakh and Armenia, including in terms of their perception of military reality. In the new situation, it was necessary to hold the plains zone of the security belt by other measures and methods. Otherwise the prospect of losing Jebrail, Fizuli,
Hadrut, Zangelan and Kubatly were visible to the naked eye. Which is what happened in the end.”

“Now Azerbaijani troops in the southern sector have reached the second line of defence and by last Saturday they were critically threatening the ‘Lachin Corridor’ – this is the the main supply road from Armenia. The loss of Lachin, which was 10 to 15 kilometers away in a straight line for the Azerbaijanis, would have been a truly strategic disaster for the Armenians. In addition, the loss of a significant territory in the south right now means serious political problems and moral defeat for Armenia. It is the advance in the south that Baku can record as its main victory and main political achievement after a month of fighting in Karabakh.”

Since the weekend, in the most recent fighting in the gorge and mountainous terrain of the Lachin Corridor, however, this Azerbaijani combination of weapons is inadequate. “Sometimes even primitive methods of protection in the mountains are very effective. For example, in the gorges around Lachin and Shusha, steel cables have been stretched since the late 1990s, which completely excludes the use of assault aircraft or drones there.”

The Moscow assessment blames the military defeat of the Armenians on the ground to Pashinyan’s anti-Russian
strategy since he took power in May 2018. That was an operation, he told the US press at the time, which had “no geopolitical context to our movement, our velvet revolution.”
“Over the past year, the Armenian military lost contact with Moscow, and all contacts in the intelligence sphere
between the two countries were curtailed – and
this was done at the initiative of the political leadership of Armenia. During the period of Nikol Pashinyan’s premiership, three intelligence chiefs were replaced, and one of them had no competence and was a purely political appointee from the West. All this was accompanied by internal anti-Russian
rhetoric, multiplied by national arrogance…Moreover, over the last six months, in the General Staff of Armenia has been mass dismissal of officers who were trained in Moscow. The ostensible reason for this was the wedding of the

Chief of the General Staff’s daughter, who allegedly ‘did not follow the rules of conduct in the coronavirus pandemic.’”

Pashinyan’s rationale for the dismissal of General Artak Davtyan was announced on June 8. At the same time he also sacked the chiefs of the police and national security administration. That, according to the Russian assessment, left Pashinyan in charge of a command-and-control system which was hollow.

The Azerbaijan President Ilham Aliyev saw the opportunity to strike. “It seems that the Armenian General Staff either did not have a mobilisation plan at all, or it suffers from a
number of strange features. For the defence of the ‘mountain fortress’, forty to sixty thousand people are really enough, but this is clearly not enough for the organisation of mobile defence. Armenians behave passively, simply fending off threats as they emerge.”

RichardD

You didn’t answer the question.

RichardD

I’m not sure what those multiple simultaneous explosions were. Anyone have any idea?

Random Dude

its called artillery battery, where multiple artillery cannons fire simultaneously.

Jens Holm

I can add its innovated by the Americans just after WW1.

If You fire one canon first, the targets fast will try to hide and the next grenates wont hit as much as they should.

I has been improved very much since. You can take a 150 mm battery and another far from there and tell them. they all should hit at 12.03 o`clock. they do.

They callibrate for direction, length, wind, pressure for air.

It was used very much by the WW2 against the Germans. The american troops were well equipped with food and ammo but fast educated and by that not as good as the german ones.

The americans knew that and by finding the German troops even before they arrived to the battle zone they taxed the Nazis hard by simultan bombardments (and airplanes).

The Russiam way always was many many more grenades and all over to try to cover every little corner. Russians of course had other versions too. Its well known it can be a good idea to make the enemy sleep less by some big grenasdes now and then.

But the americans could do that coordination because they had very good internal communication.

occupybacon

Yes you are right, Americans are very good with coordination between weapons in any fields, even if some Russian particular weapons are superior, the Americans integrate all their weapons together in time and space.

Lone Ranger

Rissians do it better.
Just look at Syria.

occupybacon

I look at how hard they tried in Idlib for 3 years. Since thy betrayed Iranian counterparts, after they took Aleppo in 6 months, they left them at Bibi’s mercy so no more help in Idlib from them, Russians need to be escorted by Turkish soldiers to go there. Anyway the little greens gave up patrols in Idlib. They are going again when Turkish soldiers will invite to drink a cup of tea.

And all that with superior air control no fly zone and daily hell raining over hts.

Huehuehuehue

Lone Ranger

Cool Disney story…
Most of Idlib is under SAA/Russian control.
Russians are escorting Turks not vice versa.
One Turkish outpost is falling after the other.
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occupybacon

Nope, Turks are all over Idlib with tanks, they don’t need little grewns with small armored cars to escort them between their bases, in Idlib.

Lone Ranger

I doubt that.
They are caved into their observation posts.
They can only leave if Russia is around aside from that they are losing these observation posts one by one as idlib is getting smaller and smaller thanks to the SAA.
They will be pushed back to the border zone then they will busy to keep kurds from their backs.
A slow but steady process.

occupybacon

You need to learn to read a map, it’s faster than reading articles about the map, actually :)

Lone Ranger

Map proves my point.

occupybacon

Pap gives you apple. How many apple you have?

Lone Ranger

Two apple martinis + change…

occupybacon

What are you doing with two drinks? You have a new girlfriend, don’t you?

Lone Ranger

Also Russia managed to turn the tide of war with only 6000man and 60jets and helos at any given time.
Crumbling U.S. Empire should take notice…

occupybacon

Indeed they turned the tied but US and Israel never wanted this conflict to have an end, they could have assasinated Assad from 2012.

They want a permanent war there so they can bomb any Iranian transport to Lebanon without triggered a stronger coyntey or a new war.

Russia understood this very well and didn’t push to win. As long as they can keep Latakia base, they are just taking part at the game, where Iran is the target.

Lone Ranger

As long as most of Syria is under SAA controll…
Nobody forcing Iran to smuggle missiles into Lebanon.
So if they stop the U.S. and Israel will run out of targets.

occupybacon

They are not only smugling missiles to Lebanon, they are also providing drones for the SAA. Russia is testing drones in Syria but still way behind Iran, so not much of help.

cechas vodobenikov

Jenny wrong–amerikan interconnectivity so poor they fail in Afghanistan, syria, Iraq and failed in Serbia except to bomb bridges and the Chinese embassy…USA had zero to w WWII—80+% of German troops killed at eastern front where not 1 cowardly US soldier was found

Jens Holm

My adding was to how fire works when they are optimized.

Most of the Russian soldiers in east was killed by Stalin stupidity of the worst kind leaving the Stalin line as well as removing almost all, which could take command for the red army.

It was USA and GB which gave USSR for more then 11,3 billion dollar help ´+ GIFTS in all kinds such as canons, tanks, 47.000 jeeps, 308.000 fuel trucks, 50% of all explosives estimated to 600.000 tons, 50% of fuel by high octane into the Russian low octane, minerals, radios, railways, airplanes, food, clothe and medicine.

Its was USA and GB which bombarded the german industrial sector and its transportsystem into stoneage including fuelproduction. Russia had no heavy bombers for that until 1945.

It was USA and partly britts and chinese, which defeated Japan. Here Russia was on vacation and balalaika.

And You forget USA just as for fx Chamberlein hardly had any soldiers, no weapons, no transport on land as well as to Brittain as well as Africa and Normandie. USA had 400.000 soldiers in 1938 and as at WW1 hoped to be hemselves and neutral.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ACv_4Sj7Q

Russia was in war mode in 1930 and a even sharper vesion from 1935 and Hitler could not have taken western Europe with no supply by Russia. Russia by that had millions of soldiers as reserves. It was because they lost WW1 three times. Those was ready as important reserve.

USA had not such thing did give help by Murmansk, Vladivostok and Abadan. .

And Stalin and Hitler was friends until Barbarossa, where Your friend Stalin divided Europe with him. comment image

Lone Ranger

Long range aetillery probably.

PZIVJ

A couple of the hits seem to be dialed in on the road.
Could also be a mortar attack? Easier to hide them in this terrain.

Lone Ranger

Could be, indeed.

Random Dude

So now that we have Armenians themselves admitting to have lost the Lachin-Shusha road, with winter approaching, and the northern route closed for more than a month now, tough times are awaiting.
Guerilla warfare is not exactly the best idea for winter while the skies taken by heat sensored drones. And trees shaking off the leaves, will further expose the situation on the ground to whoever dominates the sky.
Its not in Armenian advantage anymore to linger waiting for winter to come.

RichardD

If Russian specops are combat operational in Artsahk. It means that support armored vehicles and helicopters have also been deployed there.

white.male

clean work xD Turdo-mongolo bots will cry

John Brown

Why operate without an air cover when you have air superiority??

Random Dude

What makes you think there was no air cover?

John Brown

Each time Armenian units launch a counter attack, they give away their positions and are then in turn destroyed by AZER air power and artillery.

PZIVJ

This area is better defensive terrain compared to the south.
Also more ground cover in the form of light forest to hinder air observation.

Me&Myself None

Video quality is horrible.

Kenny Jones ™

Russian quality am I right
wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlan-10

Lone Ranger

It worked or did it not?

SnowCatzor

More of this is needed to grind these Azeri offensives to a halt. Their push towards Shushi is overstretched and vulnerable and can be exploited by the defenders.

Jens Holm

They would fight about sushi too and already has blindfolded each other for centuries
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Proud Hindu

No use.Azeris have a higher birth rates than Armenians.Armenians didnt prepare well and were overconfident so they have lost the war.Hope othwrvcountries take lessons from this war

cechas vodobenikov

cheerleader comments deny reality…Vietnam defeated USA w more soldiers and more weapons and no airforce

Random Dude

And the day will come 40million Armenians will defeat the invading Azeri forces that keep coming over the ocean with air support of aircraft careers in caspian sea.

hvaiallverden

I wounder, is this more or less the same eh… distance the Azeri scum managed to punch them self into and occupy in the last war against NK and Armenians, and now, when the topograpgy is changing we can expect the attackers have to be more or less jammed into closer quarters, because so far, I am not that surpriced of the so called advance of the Azeri and Turdian forces, its more or less expected, and drones have one advantage witch is more pin point accuracy when it comes to take out some larger gear or weapon systems, but not heavily armed, while artilley can take out much larger zones, and so far i can judge, the Armenians is ramping up the accuracy, etc, with the help of drones etc to forward mounted scouts, because, eventually wars are done and desided by what happens on the ground, on foot, I wounder more about what crap do the Russians actualy have, are we been blinded by an propaganda from the RuFraf since they took some ground in the Syrian war, but in this, the drones have exposed their inability to do much, I dont expect S-300-etc since they are meant for bigger games and to be involved, but other equipments, like MANPADs, and in the Syrian war theater, they had an easy game because of RuF air superiority, but this time, they cant follow, huh, makes one wounder do the Russian shit work at all.
Because, the Syrian war was an gound war, this one is more of an combo, and thats what exposed the weapon systems and gives an much more up to date perspetion of capabilitys and ability, credibility they flushed down the drain when ti came to the stategical moronic deals in Syria, witch stil baffles me, but again, now we know why, because of Putin/RAF, ISISrael and the Turds.

Again, I am fascinated by the pack of Turdian suckers in here, SF is crashing its credibility in an breath taking speed, and the hurrah patriots are showing their true faces, fighting ISIS/Jihadists, right, and now, Putin and Russia is siding with them, and you wouder why Putin gave away the advances the SAA managed to have to the Turdians and their gang of happy head chopping modeRats, good to know, while the whine about eh…. islamic radicals or whatever they claim they are when in this war, Russia have exposed them self for not been trustwurthy at all, yeah, intresting development, isnt it, hurrah patriots, the fact you bow for the terror state ISISrael, we know, but this, tsk, tsk, tsk.
Suddenly you are friends with the ISIS scums, an troika, Russia, ISISrael and Turds, yeah, as said before, truth always comes forth, it may take time, be clouded in obscuritys and political drivel, but it always comes forth.
Hrumf.

peace

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