Netanyahu Expresses Regret At Loss Of Russian Lives, Vows To Send Air Force Chief With Invesigation Results To Moscow

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Netanyahu Expresses Regret At Loss Of Russian Lives, Vows To Send Air Force Chief With Invesigation Results To Moscow

Benjamin Netanyahu has denied wrongdoing. Photograph: Ronen Zvulun/Reuters

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu expressed “regret” in a phone conversation with Russian President Vladimir Putin over the incident with Russian IL-20 plane off Syrian coast. Netanyahu blamed Syria for the incident adding that Moscow and Tel Aviv should continue coordinating their efforts.

The Israeli prime minister also promised to send the air force chief to Moscow with the results of the Israeli investigation of the IL-20 shotdown.

Previously, the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) released own statement commenting on the situation. The IDF expressed sorrow “for the death of the aircrew members of the Russian plane” and accused Syria, Iran and Hezbollah of the incident.

All these actions came after the Russian side officialy stated that Israel bears full responsibility for the IL-20 shotdown and emphasized that Russia keeps “the right to respond”.

“We have informed today our Israeli colleagues, and I have also informed personally the Israeli Defense Minister [Avigdor Lieberman], that such actions will not be left unanswered by us,” Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu stated.

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  • AJ

    I’m sure Netanyahu is really broken up inside!

    • leon mc pilibin

      He will be when he See’s the changes Russia will be making ,regarding defending Syria from future sneaky Zionist attacks.

  • TiredOfBsToo

    Russia doesn’t need Yahoos bs conjured and doctored evidence, they monitored it all on their screens and the MOD has rightly called it what it was. The cowardly IDF, always brave against unarmed civilians, deliberately used the Russian plane’s radar signature to hide behind as it commenced an unprovoked attack on Syria. The question is, what does it take to prove to Putin that Israel is NOT a friend of Russia? How many times is Russia going to turn the other cheek?

    • zman

      Yes, agreed. My question now is: Are the comments by Shoigu scripted thru the Kremlin or are they his military view ad hoc? Shoigu has promised some sort of retribution and now Putin has to make it real or lose credibility, at home and abroad. If nothing else, Nutsack has offended and politically hurt a friend…not to mention their co-operative association. Nutsack should be thankful that retribution is not in the hands of Shoigu, but the political hands of Putin. Nutsack has irretrievably damaged Russian-Israeli relations, however Putin decides to play this. I doubt that Putin will fall for many more of their tricks…he may be very pragmatic…but he is a Russian too. What was it he said?…’if you know there is going to be a fight, why wait to get hit first’ (or something close)…he has been sucker-punched twice now and that won’t go down well at all. Then there is the French and their backstabbing ways. I hope they get theirs too.

      • TiredOfBsToo

        “Are the comments by Shoigu scripted..”

        In a live session with Hungary’s leader, Putin was asked a question regarding the incident. He stated that the MOD’s statement was backed by him. Sputnik had about a 17 minute video and the response is at the 16:50 mark. Unfortunately, I don’t have the link anymore.

        “Nutsack should be thankful that retribution is not in the hands of Shoigu..”

        One could hope responsibility for a response is turned over to him.

        • zman

          Thanks! It’s good to know that Putin and Shoigu are on the same page…although I don’t think he would have had a choice, really. How many would be fooled by Israels excuses? If the pic of Shoigu was taken at the time of his statement, I’d say he was royally pi$$ed off.

      • FlorianGeyer

        ‘Nutsack’ will also have rejuvenated great antipathy toward jews in Russia.

        The jewish dominated Cheka brutally murdered the Tsar and his family.
        The Jewish dominated NKVD brutally murdered literally tens of millions of Christian Russians in the Gulags and the Holodomor etc.
        The nearly 100% of jewish oligarchs plundered Russia with the financial help of Western jewish run banks in the 1990’s.

        All in all the unpopularity of Jews (Good and bad) has been prevalent for circa three and a half thousand years.

        Not everyone in that period can have been wrong :)

      • Promitheas Apollonious

        No Putin does not need to act on Shoigu promise of retaliation for the simple reason, he is in position to order it, himself.

        • zman

          That was not the point.

  • zman

    Well, Putin may be trying to soft soap this incident (a tragic string of accidents), but Shoigu leaves no doubt where the Russian military stands. Nutsack can send his defense liar to Russia all he wants…the Russians have their own ways of determining what happened and it looks as if Shoigu just made public their interpretation. Putin has bent over backwards to please Nutsack and this is his reward. Never, never, never trust an Israeli…they are worse than Turds. Putin has to kiss Zionist ass in Russia due to their influence, but I doubt that the sentiment is the same in the military. At least Shoigu is not afraid to voice his opinion. What will be the effect with the population? This will be Putin’s problem…hopefully it will be Nutsacks as well. The Zionists had a pretty good deal with their ‘gentleman’s agreement’ with Putin. But as the Israelis are want to do, they shit in their nest. With any luck, they will now have to sleep in it.

    • BlueInGreen

      This latest event is just a disgrace for Russia all around no matter how you cut it. Between over 200 Russians being killed in an attack by the US and Israel literally using Russian air-craft to mask their own movements, it’s really hard not to get discouraged.

      Idk what to say anymore truthfully. It seems that the reality of situation in the ME is that Israel gets free-reign to do quite literally whatever it wants and we just all have to sit back and accept it. One can only hope the Israelis start a war with Lebanon so at the Israelis can start dying and their homes and infrastructure get destroyed like the one’s of their neighbors they like to bomb so much. I absolutely hate saying this though, makes me feel like an asshole.

      • zman

        Your feelings are shared by many. Who isn’t tired of (world-wide)Zionist duplicity? Although I would correct you on the 200 Russians, that is erroneous…it was more like 14…and they were mercenaries. But, yes, it is disheartening. One just has to hope that this is not just a dog and pony show for the world and that the Zionists will get what is coming to it. With all the propaganda and machinations going on, it’s nearly impossible to know what is reality and what is illusion. Just go with your gut and common sense…it’s really all we have to go on.

        • BlueInGreen

          I think the main reason why states around the world are just so reluctant to go up against Israel is two fold. On the one side you have the US who will at any cost to it’s own reputation, defend Israel diplomatically, economically and militarily. So going against it through either economic channels or political channels will often lead to just condemnation without any real (on the ground) action being taken against Israel. As the famous saying goes “talk is cheap”.

          But on the other hand there is the Israeli nuclear stock-pile. This is what I personally believe scares most modern states around the world, even Russia. The Samson Option Israel employs in case they are going to be defeated or even attacked against and how they would use their nukes against many nations of the world, essentially taking everyone else down with them if they go down is just downright cruel and inhumane. 10-ish million people are threatening the entire world order because of their countries downright deplorable and heinous actions is just astonishing.

          Russia can physically destroy Israel but in turn the Israels can counter attack with their own nukes as well as attack other nations capitals, Iran can hurt Israel but the Israelis have better escalatory responses, Hezbollah is really the only viable resistance against Israel since it’s not a state or country and doesn’t have nuclear weapons but at the same time the Israelis have stated, on multiple occasions, that they will lay waste to the entirety of Lebanon. So when approaching the Israeli question the outcome is always some sort of situation in which we known Israel is gonna try and destroy as much as it can because it can to “teach” others that it’s not going to be messed with.

          It just sucks all around. Maybe I’m greatly exaggerating but Hezbollah really seems to be the only Viable answer to Israel.

          • Joe

            Never believe for even a second Israel will use that Samson solution in face of defeat
            Use it on others yes but on themselves stupid even to think they would. They will run and surrender faster t han the Arabs

          • skinner15

            The citizens of Israel are just cannon fodder to their international bosses.

            They would, and will eventually start off nuclear armageddon, safely tucked away with their new toys for the new world.

      • Joe

        Israel attack to kill Syrians understandable. Russia allowing Israel to attack Syrians fighting Russian war is not acceptable .

        Bad deal really

      • Feudalism Victory

        I understand. There seems to be so much more to israel and its supporters than meets the eye.

        I think it has its roots in the babylonian money system and the families that bought the world with it.the deluded fools who think themselves jewish may not be genealogically linked to the original hebrews either but are a front for the money changes who are in almost every country.

        In reality they seem to be more human sacrifice stock but are told theyre the chosen ones. Just not told chosen for what. Pity them they know not what they do.

      • Spit

        Russia Should have responded. I agree.

      • alejoeisabel

        The IDF soldier has low morale. Half avoid the draft. The Israeli government is controlled by the Zionist billionaire class. The vast majority of Israelis struggle to live, and many live in poverty. The Zionists who rule Israel are among the most corrupt with many pending trials including Netanyahu arguable the most corrupt president ever for Israel.

      • alejoeisabel

        Don’t dispare. Israel gets less and less impunity in its behavior. Remember, Israel invaded Lebanon with no thought whatsoever. Now, with Hezbollah that is no longer possible. So things do change for the better. Syria with its reorganized and better trained soldiers, and with new alliances and stronger and deeper military alliances with Iran and Hezbollah, and now Iraq as an ally, can now reconquer the Syrian Golan Heights.

        Israel pushed for a “regime change” in Iraq, and it got its wish. Now, thanks to Israel’s insistence to rid Iraq of Saddam Hussein, you have the unthinkable alliance of Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Hezbollah, all thanks to Israel. Its implausible that Israel could repel a coordinated liberation of the Syrian Golan Heights. Moreover, Hezbollah has the military capability to take over Northern Israel if it wanted to do it. Really, nothing to dispare about anymore now that Russia is back.

      • DaBoiiiii

        I think you are looking at this too superficially my brother. The Israelis cannot do whatever they want. That’s why they do these pitiful attacks that achieve nothing.

        We must ask, what does Israel want? What does USA want? Israel wants the fall of Syria into something resembling Libya, and the fall of Assad and the SAA, and the rise to power of sympathetic terrorist groups that hate Iran. And the fall of Iraq into the hands of Daesh so as to send USA troops to Iraq in greater numbers again. And to use this to eventually begin attacks against Iran and renewed attacks against Hezbollah. In order to do this, and to change the tide of war, Israel and the US must do something big, such as send forces to fight for the terrorists. Can they do this? No. If Israel and the USA and whoever send ground troops and declare open war against SAA and Russia and Iran and Hezbollah, they will be embarrassed just as Hezbollah embarrassed Israel in 2000 and 2006. And so they resort to these pitiful attacks, such as the ones during the liberation of Ghouta, to feel good about themselves in the MSM, even though they achieve nothing.

        Russia/Iran/Syria of course due to many reasons, such as its own interests and beliefs and ideology, as well as the reality of how strong it and it’s allies are, is currently focusing on Syria and the defeat of these terrorist forces in Syria, and have defacto allowed USA and Israel to pot shot Syrian forces so long as damage isn’t too high. Essentially, the idea is that we will not start a direct conflict with these parties, unless what they do seriously impacts our ability to crush the terrorists. Now I ask you, has any of the threats and attacks had any effect on the liberation of Deir-Ezzor? Or Aleppo? Or Ghouta? or Quneitra and Daraa? No. these filthy terrorists cannot be saved by these means. They can only be saved by legit ground forces, which they do not have the courage to send. The USA does not want a repeat of Iraq, let alone something FAR worse.

        So no brother, I do not think it is correct to say that they can do what they want. Simply put, our side loses more if it moves it’s focus away from killing terrorists for these meaningless, however still annoying, upsetting and angering attacks. It is only worth it to divert attention from killing terrorists if they do something truly damaging.

        And make no mistake, war with these people is coming. Whether Turkey or USA or Israel or Saudi or all of them. War is coming. As much as some do not want this, it is the reality of the situation. May be caused now, due to retaliation to such an attack, in which we would be at a disadvantage, or in 5 years, when more of Syria is liberated and we, I believe, would be at an advantage. War is coming one way or another.

    • Joe

      It will be business as usual , Israel allowed by Russia to kill Syrians who died because if pipeline saving Russia.

      Bad deal for Syrian soldiers cannot even to have decent AA missiles

    • 1691

      Putin is not in position to express his true feelings. He is a stateman.

      • as

        On this circumstances where they deliberately hid behind il20 it was not accidental. It was tragic but not accidentals. Simply recognize them as what it is not an options anymore for him.

        • 1691

          But I do. I am not talking about events. I am saying that he can not express emotions.

      • putinbeater

        interesting. when turks shot down the russian jet, he exoressed. you are putinsucker

      • Ashok Varma

        Putin is hardly a statesman. He is in Zionist pockets and does not care about Russian lives. It is a great humiliation for Russia and its pathetic people.

        • DaBoiiiii

          “pathetic people”? why the insult to the Russians?

    • putinbeater

      but Shoigu leaves no doubt where the Russian military stands

      at the verge of abyss

      • zman

        idiot moron.

        • putinbeater

          :DDD

    • Assad must stay (gr8rambino)

      they really fucked up this time :)))

  • konkn

    MSM will make Israelis look like poor victims in this story, because Syrian anti aircraft units are antisemitic…

    • zman

      No doubt. They shot down the Russian plane to make Israel look bad.

      • Ashok Varma

        No one needs to make the criminal regime of so-called Israel look bad, it is doing a good job by itself.

      • Tommy Jensen

        Israel has already said they are sorry, they regret the loss of Russian lives, they apologize. Israel will make an investigation about what they did, when they did what, how they did it and why they did it.
        It was a human error from Israeli side caused by Hezbollah´s invisible violent terror influence in Syria.
        IDF concluded Hezbollah killed the 14 Russian innocent servicemen by psychological anti-semitic violent warfare and will consider offering Russia an usury loan for the funeral.

        • potcracker777

          a one world government with jerusalme as its capital under satanic jewish leadership….thats the agenda..and all countries that recognize the illegal satanic entity named israel are part of this agenda including russia,usa,uk,china,eu

          only those countries that do not recognize the illegal satanic entity named israel are NOT part of the agenda.

          putin recieves orders just like erdogan,trump or may or merkel

    • as

      His wording “Israel ready to assist in investigation…”
      Publish our definitely not lie side of story version.

    • Feudalism Victory

      What’s the saying the jew cries out in pain as he strikes you?

    • Concrete Mike

      most of these boys in israel are eastern euros, not a drop of semite blood in em. I dont like that expression anti semitic, because semites are palestinians, yet the guys shooting them are calling themselves semites…like how fucking white is bibi…anyways.

      I agree with what you said and i liked the anti semitic joke.

      Cheers

      • Ashok Varma

        40% of the Zionists are Russia and Ukrainian Khazars and welfare convenient “Jews” the rest are Poles, Hungarians etc. There are no real Jews is Arab Palestine. It is all a Hollywood hoax.

        • potcracker777

          hahahah u folkks always fall for this old bs of zionism….. let me explain very simple….

          to be a zionist you have to believe in the Talmud and be circumcised, to be a jew you have to believe in the talmud and be circumcised…..

          The talmud ” all non jews are GOJIM, all non jewish women are whores”

          judaism…is satanic from day 1 ….who is the father of the jews???
          what did jesus say ” your father is the father of all lies” “satan”
          what did jesus pray….love your enemy as you love your brother….dont do nothing to somebody else that you dont want for yourself etc….
          jesus was a rabbi…a jew…. so what did he say when he looked into the temple
          ” go away you thieves,murdereds,lieers, you money baggers”
          for over 2000 years the satanic jews want control over our planet….thats the agenda
          a one world government with jerusalem as its capital under satanic jewish leadership.
          all countries that recognize the illegal satanic entity named israel are part of the agenda, including usa,uk,china,eu and russia

    • Ashok Varma

      The real issue is that the Zionist regime has been illegally bombing Syria and supporting terrorists for 7 years and Russia has been turning a blind eye or actively supporting the Zionists. It also shows that Putin puts Zionist interests first than Russian lives. RIP to the dead Russians who paid the price for Putin’s collaboration.

  • Spit

    The Israelis are morning this loss… another Halacaust Oy Vet!

    • TiredOfBsToo

      It’d be nice to hear them mourning the loss of their own pilots attacking Syria unprovoked.

      • zman

        I’d like to see Nutsack cleaning out his pants after Dimona is vaporized…I take that back, I’d just like to see Nutsack vaporized…but then again…they are like breeding rats, so…nah, the Palestinians deserve their homes back. Damn, now I’m all conflicted.

        • TiredOfBsToo

          I laughed out loud. I’m in full agreement.

          “..Dimona..”

          On the other hand, that would denuclearize the region.

  • Joe Doe

    Pu.tin is weak leader , he try please everyone at the Syria expense and Russia solders lives. First, Pu.tin try please Americans, Syria lost East of Syria, now he try please Turkey, Syria lost Idlib and Syria bomb bomb at will and Russia only have cheap talk. Syria and N.K are example and should be warnings to other nations. Joining Russia the risk outweigh the benefits.

  • Merijn

    DIE SATANYAHOO!!! DIE……& Burn IsraHell….Bunch of Parasites….

    • FlorianGeyer

      Satanyahoo is just a compulsive liar, like the rest of his Mafia Cult as we are well aware of Merijn.
      He wil not be missed when he dies.

      • Merijn

        With their nice try to pull everyone into an Israhelli World War….by using the IL-20 as a Shield…calling the Russians a minute before…these folks are manipulative nasty Vermin……..

    • FlorianGeyer
      • Merijn

        The West certainly can use a Bloody Civil War….to get rid of all these Psychopaths… Evil Beyond imagination…Clean them all up…

        • Promitheas Apollonious

          is coming sooner than most think.

        • FlorianGeyer

          That time is fast approaching I think Merijn and this explains the frantic panic we now see from the majority of the US Coalition gangs and leaders.

          Debt and poverty have always been the precursors of great change and as the fiat currencies buckle under the weight of the debts, so will the poverty increase.

  • IMHO

    Sooner or later you have to admit that Russia’s leaders are just as controlled and corrupt as the rest of them. They don’t even try to hide it any more.

  • Turks suddenly seem more pleasant than the Israelis now,

    • Promitheas Apollonious

      give it time you change your mind.

      • Monte George Jr

        Never.

        • Promitheas Apollonious

          in politics and global games is not such a word as never.

  • XRGRSF

    “You are of your father, The Devil, and his will you will do. He was a murder from the beginning, and a liar for the truth abode not in him.” John 8:44.

  • Jim Bim

    The israeli might as well give the Russian a box of used toilet paper instead.

  • alejoeisabel

    Russia should demand the Israeli Air Force black boxes and control tower communications. Russia should arrest and Air Force official from Israel.

    • Promitheas Apollonious

      Russia has a big responsibility in what happen and 14 airmen lost their lives. It is russias responsibility to protect her assets in the area and last I check, they have S300-400 at their disposal. To me is very hard to think that russia relay on the s200 of SAA to protect her airforce.

      So how come 4 F 16s become invisible to the so much talk about best anti aircraft system in the world? Someone must answer for this and lose his head how was it possible 35 clicks and under the full protection of the S300-400, of the base, none seen the F16s and none took action to protect their own? Unless all we hear is a make believe and a myth as the american myths.

      • Icarus Tanović

        You fucking stupid? Israelis shoot down fucking plane! Russia SUPOSED TO GIVE SYRIA S-300, several months ago, and they should have to, but LIBERMAN SAID NO!
        AND RUSSIANS OBEY TO HIM! NOE, PAY THE FUCKING PRICE!

        • Promitheas Apollonious

          no stupid I am not fucking stupid read what I wrote.. understand it … DONT use your usual 2 second thinking span take your time think then answer again. Our sources say americans shoot the fucking plane, but then since none of us can prove or disprove what really happened and we are talking about responsibilities, the first responsibility for the security and protection of the russian army and bases the russians in syria, it is Russian responsibility not the SAA.

          capish?

          • 1691

            I would not pay attention to people who sound like street fighters and behave like those with dual citizenship in the usa.

          • Icarus Tanović

            Yeah, you’re right. It is more like 2 milliseconds. I wish it is like 2-3 up to five seconds. Or something like that.
            Peace out.

      • as

        Based on quick MoD publication they seem to keep tracks of them but how they’re allowed to get dangerously close to Russian aviation is a mystery. They definitely have flyby agreement with every involved actors but such aggressive approach should draw big reaction from their own air forces.

        Regarding S300/S400 i agree with other these should be their hands free deterrence which would be justifiable for Syrian use against air incursions.

      • zman

        Where has anyone ever said they were not detected? You have to show me this. It was not that they were undetected, it was that they were to always state their intentions, that the Russian craft was in possible jeopardy. They fly this route, whether they are in attack mode or surveillance mode. It is the agreement with Russia that they notify Russia. This time they gave the Russians 1 minute warning, which was not enough to remove the plane from the area. This is the issue. Fort Russ has a totally different take on this and is also plausible. Check it out. They claim it was France that did the deed, not the Syrians.

  • leon mc pilibin

    He WILL regret making this illegal attack over and over,because the rules of the game have just changed,and Nutandyahoo and his zionist gangster buddies wont like it one bit.

  • RichardD

    The Russians were betrayed by the Jews who used them as human shields for criminal aggression. Is anyone surprised?

    • Promitheas Apollonious

      Nope they betrayed by their politically correct attitude and because they took a bigger bite I think they can chew or willing to.

      • RichardD

        Israeli aircraft shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near a plane like that. Especially when they’re drawing fire on themselves. The Russians are fighting the war on the cheap to conserve resources. That involves compromises and increased risk. A more robust posture requires increased expenditures. The Russians and their allies are winning the war, that’s the priority.

        Increased restrictions will be put on the IAF as required. They’ve just crossed the threshold to bring that upon themselves.

        • Promitheas Apollonious

          Richard this is not the point and yes in most you say you will not find me in disagreement. BUT. As someone as the first call reserves if my country go to war and more likely we will, I expect from my country to be the one protecting me.

          Losing a plane as that to me is criminal negligence. You talking abut losing a plane outside your door step. Syrians dont have S300 and 400 but russians have them and are active. A plane as this one usually also have escorts or as the case of the russian plane was under the umbrella of the S400s.

          The asset russia lost and I mean the human lives with her policies it is not easily forgivable is like your own country one you willing to die for and you are in harms way at their command abandon you to luck and strangers.

          My question is this, did their antiaircraft was ordered down and if yes why?

          Other wise to my mind is beyond comprehension to allegedly have the best antiaircraft weapons in the world but you never use them even to protect your won. To me first responsible for what happened are the russians then every one else. They failed to protect their own people and they could if they wanted to.

          Why?

          • RichardD

            The Jews are over Lebanon and in international airspace off the coast of Syria 24-7. What do you want the Russian’s to do, violate international law and shoot them down unprovoked? As far as I know, this is the first time that the Jews have started a firefight with Russians caught in the middle of it. Now the Russians have justification to shoot down IAF planes if a similar incident occurs again.

          • Promitheas Apollonious

            yes.

          • RichardD

            https://img.rt.com/files/2018.09/original/5ba0fc27dda4c8fe408b45e5.jpg

            – Will Russia-Israel ties suffer after downing of Il-20 military plane off Syrian coast? –

            https://www.rt.com/news/438704-russia-israel-conflict-plane/

          • Promitheas Apollonious

            what they released means nothing. Is what they want us to see. You know is a greek navy ship in patrol around cyprus with the french and the americans right? A contact there tells a different story that shook my faith for the decision makers in russia.

            Exactly the reason I am questioning what happen. many here took sides and so have I on a degree and as far is not directly in conflict with my own motherlands national interest. The story we hear you can read it between the lines in what I already posted here. That reflects what we learned so far.

          • RichardD

            What’s the version that you heard?

          • Promitheas Apollonious

            all the war ships in the area watch what happen in their bridges. But I think a link that is been given to me by FG will explain very much the bases is what I also hear the rest can not post here.

            The Syrian and Russian air forces and air-defense batteries work together, in joint operation rooms and air-traffic control centers. The Syrians use Russian-made aircraft and missiles. The Ilyushin would have been equipped with IFF (identification, friend or foe) transponders and both militaries will have procedures to prevent “friendly fire” incidents. A Syrian anti-aircraft missile, made in Russia, should not have shot down a friendly Russian aircraft.

            Something was obviously going on Monday night. Not only Russian and
            (allegedly) Israeli and French aircraft and missiles were in the air.
            Civilian radar also tracked British Royal Air Force aircraft, which,
            unusually, had switched on their transponders and gone into holding
            patterns – most likely to avoid being somehow involved in the exchange
            of fire over Latakia. The Ilyushin Il-20 was not so fortunate.

            is from veterans today. Basically is what they told us only with their conclusions and mixed with what they think it happen so we trying to sort out now personal understanding from fact. This is why I dont say what I been told.

          • RichardD

            VT posts disinfo and bans truth. The friendly fire counter measures failed and were compromised by the Russians getting caught in the middle of a fire fight. That’s today’s version. Yesterday I wrote that it was naked aggression on the part of NATO and Israel and that it was unlikely that Syria would have shot down a Russian plane for all of the reasons that you state. I’m open to whatever the truth is and the evidence shows.

          • Promitheas Apollonious

            thats why I never go to the site it is a jew misinformation center but what I copy paste is very much also not in the same words but in general idea what we also been told by our people who seen it on their radars to happen and if you seen the questions I ask then read between the lines.

          • Promitheas Apollonious

            m2 and I dont insist what I think and what I say, is fact or the truth. Actually I am hoping tomorrow we hear a logical explanation what happen or see it from their actions or reactions.

          • RichardD

            The plane that went down was a big electronic war platform. So using it as a screen to attack from behind it may have been a factor. So as to impair the missiles coming at the attacking IAF planes.

            The entire S series of missiles have interchangeable components and up grades to an extent. If they weren’t hiding behind the Il-20 to attack from, and were out in the open instead. The IAF planes may have been more vulnerable.

            If they’re going to shoot at attacking IAF aircraft over the water. They should do it with something capable of taking them down.

        • Promitheas Apollonious

          p.s. by the way with so much navy and land facilities nothing goes on around Mediterranean let alone syria russians and nato dont know and have eyes on.

          • RichardD

            Those Russian surveillance planes can have interceptors flying with them to warn off hostile aircraft. And if the hostile aircraft start an unprovoked firefight with a third party jeopardizing the surveillance plane, they can be taken down.

          • Promitheas Apollonious

            and then nothing of what I mention or you now, happened. Is like the plane been send to be the patsy of the whole event. with out escort and with out missile coverage.

          • RichardD

            And the reason is that there is an agreement not to jeopardize Russian personnel that Israel breached and the remedy is to increase restrictions on Israeli activity. They’ve flown near those planes many times without a problem. This time they took advantage of it. And now they will pay for it.

  • Judge_Death

    This was expected..Putin was waiting the zionist answer..and this is the end…next days the zioinist planes and their phantom friends will attack again over the head of russian soldiers

  • occupybacon

    Look at him, the man is almost in tears!

  • seawolf

    Putin, a complete disappointment. The man has proven less than expected.

  • as

    Depending on their follow up this perhaps were Russian version of USS Liberty. Only notable difference is the circumstances
    Were quick to reach the public leaving little room for coverups.

    • Feudalism Victory

      Good analogy

  • GrandRus

    This day in 1918 Viktor Vasilevich Talalikhin was born. He was a Russian lieutenant and aviator during the Winter War and World War II and a Hero of the Soviet Union, among the first to perform aerial ramming at night.
    https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5589/15038329030_56822df74a_b.jpg
    Talalikhin became a fighter pilot in the Soviet Air Forces in the late 1930s, flying the Polikarpov I-153 during the Winter War. He served in the air defense of Moscow during World War II with an aviation regiment of the Soviet Air Defence Forces. He became one of the first Soviet aviation heroes of the war after ramming a German bomber at night with his Polikarpov I-16, but was shot down and killed in late October while flying a Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-3. Talalikhin claimed three victories during the Winter War and four in the air defense of Moscow.

    On 30 August 1948, Talalikhin was permanently added to the muster list of the 1st Squadron of the 177th Fighter Aviation Regiment. Monuments tohim were built in Moscow and Podolsk, and an obelisk was placed at the 43rd kilometer of the Warsaw Highway, over which the ramming took place

  • Tudor Miron

    Those who tend to analyze global developments looking at “current state” rather than observing continuous process are doomed to make false conclusions.

  • RichardD

    It looks like the Russian plane was caught right in the middle of the crossfire:

    https://img.rt.com/files/2018.09/original/5ba0fc27dda4c8fe408b45e5.jpg

    – Will Russia-Israel ties suffer after downing of Il-20 military plane off Syrian coast? –

    https://www.rt.com/news/438704-russia-israel-conflict-plane/

    • Feudalism Victory

      Yes like turkeys after it downed a plane

    • hope springs eternal.

      Probably not. Going by Putin’s statement he will call Netanyahoo to be the Chief Guest at the next Victory parade. Losing respect for Putin. Russia needs to give a stronger response.

      • RichardD

        They’re winning war.

  • putinbeater

    big shamie day for ruskies :)))) why? after 200 downvotes i will tell :P

  • Manuel Flores Escobar

    Shoigu and the Russian military staff want to retaliate..they know that Netanyahu words are fake..as Israel knew that a Russian plane was flying towards latakia….and then they launched the airstrike to avoid be shot down thinking that SAD would not launch missile….also military staff says that Israel by military channels gave the information one minute before the airstrike when Il 20 couldnt turn to fly over safe zones…..and above all Russian military staff know that USA and NATO are now testing the Russian respond to measure the strenght or weakness of the Russian armed forces!

    • Feudalism Victory

      They knew how to spoof the s200. Its hacked.

  • FlorianGeyer

    This report from Veterans Today is yet more damning evidence that FUKUS and Israel are committing heinous crimes in Syria.

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/09/18/hacked-censored-israels-fatal-attack-part-of-coverup-of-their-role-in-idlib-gas-attack-child-abductions/

    The US is attempting to remove it from the internet , so copy it to your pc’s.

    • Promitheas Apollonious

      yes read my posts about the “incident“. Is absolutely BS and the russians for their own reasons and logic play along. Lets see what happens next and then we all have our answers.

  • Fayez Chergui

    a headsman regretting the death of his victime

  • alejoeisabel

    In the process of criminal activity if someone dies, the criminal is charged with murder even if a police kill someone innocent in the process of responding to the crime. In this case, Israel is criminally responsible for the downing of the Russian reconnaissance aircraft. It would be ENTIRELY LEGITIMATE for Russia to bomb the airbases of these criminals in hot pursuit. No international laws would be violated.

  • ColinNZ

    The IL-20 wasnt an ordinary aircraft and these were not ‘crewmen’. This is a huge loss to Russia and Syria – these were highly trained (over 10 years) electronic warfare specialists and the plane included some of the most advanced EW capability on the planet. The Russian military are furious and demanding a response, as are most Russians whilst Putin is trying to calm it all down … there could be a serious rift. So the empire of chaos will be thrilled at such a big Russian EW loss and any rift between Putin and his military and/or electorate would be a huge added bonus. Sometimes turning the other cheek becomes counter-productive.

    • Feudalism Victory

      True

    • putinbeater

      putin will lose. russians hate him for pension reform, everywhere are protests, the police brutally beat and close old people, children.

      now this, tomorrow that and putinco has finished :DD

  • John

    The only thing I can say is, keep watching this. I don’t doubt that BN was dressed down by VP. The Russian official statement indicates that THE line has been crossed. Russia does not waste moves and this was a big mistake by Israel. The statement by Israel about sending their investigation team was also a slap in face. These two things are not getting a pass.

    Now that Russian blood has been drawn by Israel, Russia can takes it’s sweet time and can extract revenge; which it stated it would do. Israelis, professional ones, will die over this in time. It will probably be pretty impressive, even though it may or may not see the light of day in the press anytime soon.

    In short, things just became very interesting from a long term perspective. I have been quietly waiting for something like this to happen for almost 3 years. What am I talking about? Just think about what has happened to Turkey’s position in general since the downing of the Russian jet. Who did Erdogan end up having to depend on to save his life? Stay tuned folks. My take. A good evening to all.

  • Feudalism Victory

    Oh hes only sorry russia didnt blame syria.

  • Empire’s Frontiers
    • Empire’s Frontiers

      2. Hence to fight and conquer in all your battles is not
      supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in
      breaking the enemy’s resistance without fighting.

  • J Roderet

    The evil demon Netanyahu will only feel regret when Syria has been provided with S-300s.

  • Assad must stay (gr8rambino)

    wipe out all IAF bases

    • putinbeater

      and acids, too

  • putinbeater
  • Doom Sternz

    The Syrian and Russian air forces and air-defense batteries work together, in joint operation rooms and air-traffic control centers. The Syrians use Russian-made aircraft and missiles. The Ilyushin would have been equipped with IFF (identification, friend or foe) transponders and both militaries will have procedures to prevent “friendly fire” incidents.

    Israel’s/NATO’s Attack was part of a coverup of their role in the Idlib gas attack where children were abducted.

  • frankly

    Seems obvious, the Russians died, if they hadn’t, an Israeli plane takes the missile. Suffice to say this trick won’t work twice.

    Coordinating, nicely chosen word. Like the Russians are glad to have Israel bombing their allies. This can not go on.

  • Felix D (TUPPERWARE PARTY)

    It’s like driving through a School Zone at 100 MPH and then expressing regret. IAF could have and should have known that the IL-20 was going to be shot down. I believe it was a deliberate plan that succeeded, but even if it was negligence instead of malevolence IAF is culpable.