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Russian forces continue to advance on several fronts
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Ukraine’s armed forces suffer very heavy casualties
Written by Dr. Leon Tressell
This year marks the 80th anniversary of the largest tank battle in history, which involved 1,600 tanks, and had a decisive impact on the course of World War 2. On 5 July 1943 Nazi Germany launched Operation Zitadelle, its last summer offensive on the Eastern Front. Hitler felt Army Group South could win this battle due to the massive hopes he placed on his new ‘wonder weapons’: the Panther and Tiger tanks. Hitler’s confidence was misplaced as these new powerful weapons failed to bring him the victory he desired. Instead, the German army went down to a decisive defeat which as Churchill observed, ‘marked the ruin of Germany on the Eastern Front.’
Here we are 80 years later and the Western media are drooling over the prospect of German Leopard 2 tanks being sent to fight Russian forces in Ukraine. Apparently, they will help it deal a ‘decisive blow’ to the Russian army during 2023. This narrative is exemplified by an article by Business Insider on 20 January 2023 which commented, Leopard 2s are “formidable main battle tanks [that] would provide a massive firepower boost on the battlefield.”
Two days ago the German government caved in to enormous pressure from its NATO allies and agreed to send 14 of these ‘wonder weapons’ to Ukraine which will take 3-4 months to deliver. Berlin gave permission for its NATO allies to export their Leopard 2 tanks to Kiev. According to Luxemberg’s Foreign Minister Jean Asselborn, NATO members intend to send around 300 Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine over the next few months. Apparently, the goal is to have them in place before Russia launches a major offensive this spring.
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ABC news has reported the preliminary numbers of Leopard 2 tanks to be sent by European NATO members to Ukraine amount to 111. The breakdown by donor country is below:
- Germany will give 14 Leopard 2A6 models
- Poland will give 14 Leopard 2s
- Holland will give 18 Leopard 2s
- Portugal will give 4 Leopard 2A6 models
- Spain plans to send 53 Leopard 2s
- Norway plans to give 8 Leopard 2
- Finland and Sweden have expressed their readiness to send tanks but have not specified a number
On top of this President Biden has announced the transfer of 31 Abrams tanks to Ukraine which will take several months to deliver.
War hawks in the US Congress and in governments across European NATO are insistent that deliveries of tanks and other heavy weapons will be maintained and increased to help Ukraine “win this war.’’
The Russian government’s response was predictably hostile considering this major escalation of NATO aid for Ukraine. Kremlin spokesman Dmitri Peskov said the deployment of Western tanks would lead to “unambiguously negative” consequences. Andrey Kartapolov, head of the State Duma Defence Committee dismissed the supplies of Western main battle tanks to Ukraine in an interview on 25 January on the Russsia-24 TV channel:
“The Leopard tanks are not bad; but I would say they are more effective than the Abrams in many characteristics. But nevertheless, if compared to our T-90s, they are significantly inferior in firepower and armour protection, including its active component.’’
He also added that Russian tanks and their crews have been tested under battle field conditions and shown themselves “from the best side.”
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The Western media and politicians are bragging over this latest escalation of NATO’s proxy war with Russia. However, Western main battle tanks in Ukraine will face a number of obstacles and difficulties.
The first issue that that will have to be dealt with is training Ukrainian tanks crews for the different kinds of tanks sent by NATO from Challenger 2s to Leopard 2s and M1 Abrams tanks. Most estimates agree that this will take several months just to produce entry level tankers who have mastered the basics of tank operation.
Given Russia’s activation of offensives on several fronts which is leading to very heavy losses in men and equipment for Ukraine these ‘wonder weapons’ may well arrive too late make any difference on the battlefield. Ukraine has recently lost the fortified city of Soledar while the Russian offensive against Bakmut has left this strategically important city very close to operational encirclement and facing capture in the next few weeks. Meanwhile, Russian forces are advancing in the city of Ugledar and are making progress in their offensive in the Zaporozhye region where they have crossed the Yancher river and entered Kamyanske which is an important transport hub.
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The next factor to consider is the all important matter of logistics to support these main battle tanks. Yesterday AP carried a piece on the US pledge to send M1 Abrams tanks to Ukraine. It noted the many difficulties the Ukrainian army will face operating these tanks:
“Just last week, Under Secretary of Defense for Policy Colin Kahl told reporters that the Abrams is a complicated, expensive, difficult to maintain and hard to train on piece of equipment. One thing Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has been very focused on, he said, “is that we should not be providing the Ukrainians systems they can’t repair, they can’t sustain, and that they, over the long term, can’t afford, because it’s not helpful.”
At this point I could wax lyrical about how M1 Abrams tanks and Leopard 2 have proved to be not so formidable in combat against enemies who are no where near as well armed as Russian forces which have air superiority and a massive artillery firepower advantage. From March of 2003 to March of 2005 approximately, 80 Abrams tanks were knocked out by Iraqi militias using IEDs and Russian made anti tank weapons. In Syria 10 Leopard 2 tanks were knocked out by Isis and Kurdish militias using Russian made anti tank weapons whilst fighting against Turkey’s invading army.
We could go on to discuss the different specifications of Russian tanks as compared to Western main battle tanks. In many ways that is a fruitless endeavour as training, experience and how the tanks are used in combined arms combat are more important on the battlefield. The military analysts on the Slavyangrad Telegram channel have observed,
‘Any comparison between tanks doesn’t matter a bit, because any Western tanks provided to Ukraine will be managed by crewmen inexperienced with Western systems, while Russian crewmen have hundreds, if not thousands of hours of real combat experience with their own systems. It’s going to be a manslaughter (or rather a “tankslaughter”).”
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The man take away for me from the announcement of Western tank deliveries to Ukraine is how this represents a huge escalation of the proxy war between the US and Russia. The questions ordinary people in the West should be asking are: Will deliveries of hi tech NATO 5th generation fighter bombers be the next weapons system to be sent to Ukraine? Or maybe the West will send Ukraine long range missile systems that can hit Moscow and other major Russian cities? Are these weapons deliveries going to continue escalating to the point where Russia feels it has no choice but to use tactical nuclear weapons in response?
You may say that I am exaggerating. However, comments from various NATO politicians make it clear that the West intends to support Ukraine until it wins victory over a nuclear armed power. At a Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock stated:
““And therefore I’ve said already in the last days – yes, we have to do more to defend Ukraine. Yes, we have to do more also on tanks. But the most important and the crucial part is that we do it together and that we do not do the blame game in Europe, because we are fighting a war against Russia and not against each other.”
In reply to Baerbock’s comments Russia’s Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova retorted:
“If we add this to Merkel’s revelations that they were strengthening Ukraine and did not count on the Minsk agreements, then we are talking about a war against Russia that was planned in advance. Don’t say later that we didn’t warn you,”
We are living in very dangerous times which require ordinary people all over the world to pressure their governments to support the demand for immediate peace negotiations between Russia and Ukraine. You may say that I’m a dreamer but I know that I’m not the only one who doesn’t want the war in Ukraine leading to a nuclear war between Russia and the United States.
Spaniards always causing trouble in Russia. Will those 53 Leopards be called the Blue battalion?
I read earlier reports, that many of the Spanish tanks are broken and will need repair before being sent to the Ukraine. This all sounds more like symbolism over substance.
It is a big gift package for Russia to get so much iron and other metals from NATO countries.
Now they get fully refined metal that would have taken years to extract using normal mining.
Hohol strategy worked pretty well for them so far. Quicker you loose them, quicker you get replacements 😆
What is it now, the longevity of Western shit at the Eastern front? 15 minutes? 30 minutes? Maybe 1 hour max?
Dumbass Russia is the biggest supplier to Ukraine
They left all their Russian junk to the Ukraine farmers lol and Russia has been the biggest supply of weapons to Ukraine to date lol 🤣😂🤣 Russia is finished EH
Have you hugged Justin lately?
You are right. In western Europe we since the Russian collapse instead has used socalled peice dividend.
One result is less of almost all military equipment. By that we also recruited less ro handle them.
In Denmark we have downseized Our F16 using spareparts from the old one, but also which one are doing well 100%, which ones are able to do well but to old and the how many which never will fly again.
So thats why we replace a lot giving it away. Its old but mainly feeling fine.
As all know not all will be replaced because we now has to have more drones and missiles as well and less but more accurate artillery.
So, how are the Danish pilots handling the oxygen problems of the F16? Or was that the F22, where the American pilots went on strike, owing to being taken out by the oxygen problems in the F22. Generic and also found in the F35.
The Danish don’t need oxygen because they haven’t got brains.
Cojones viejos.
Not all the spanish ppl agree the decisions of our government.. our polítics are a bunch of crocks nato dick suckers. Anyway our tanks are rubbish :)
https://rumble.com/vwxxi8-ukraine-on-fire.html
The article is full of faked shit of the worst kind. Fx USA only lost 23 Abrams in Iraq, which they did not like.
300 also is what Zelinsky would like to have. So far 88 tanks are promised but for sure some addictions to that will arrive too.
Very biased only to mention opration citadella. Where are where the Russians lost again and again until the tides turned.
In the citadelle its never mentioned that most transportation as well as good fuel was delivered by the USA. Very much of the communication equipments too.
Still can’t understand your English. Sorry.
It’s ok: he doesn’t understand himself either.
Next time You should not try by looking up by transplantation.
Ukraine is finished no amount of shit you post will change that.
The three days special military operation didn’t end well for Putler and his minions 😆😆😆
Nor for the hundreds of thousands dead and wounded ukrogoblins.
Where did you get that three day operation from out of your arse
I mainly write to tell You about theworld You seemes totally censured away from.
Last kind of Russian infomation is right here too compaering Our tanks with Armatas. BUT ARMATAS HARDLY EXIST. We not even if there are 20 for real.
And almost all of the Russian tanks are just as old as Ours. By that the comparing for Russian tanks is better makes no sense.
If anything was as bad as the Rusticans are told, we would have collpased seral times a wekk the dollar included. Your kind also deny to understand the difference in Yours and Ours debts.
AS long as debt here cover for machinery and infrastructure doing a job, the debt is active plus.
Danish Military Strength – 50 out of 145 nations considered for Global Fire Review. Let’s compare them:
Manpower – Denmark – 5,920,767 Russia – 142,021,981 (Russia overpowers Danish manpower by 136,101,214). Available manpower, Denmark 2,605,137 compared to Russia 69,590,771. Denmark Active Service – 16,000 compared to Russia – 830,900.
Denmark – Foreign Reserve Rank 29 – $75,250,000,000 Russia – Foreign Reserve Rank 6 – $432,700,000,000 Purchasing Power Denmark – $326,200,000,000 Purchasing Power Russia – $3,900,000,000,000
Air Power Denmark – Rank 63 115 total aircrafts. Air Power Russia – Rank 2 – 4,182 total aircrafts
Part 2
Land Power Tank Strength – Denmark Rank 90. Tanks 44 Land Power Tank Strength – Russia Rank 1. Tanks 12,566
Armed vehicles – Denmark Rank 95 – Total 4,024 Armed vehicles – Russia Rank 3 – Total 151,641
Naval Power – Denmark Fleet Strength Rank 39 – Total 74 Naval Power – Russia – Total 598
Submarines – Denmark Rank 145 – submarines Zero. Submarines – Russia Rank 2 – submarines 70 (many under 10 years old and still rolling off the submarine conveyor belts, all classes).
Part 3
Natural resources
Denmark oil production ranked 51, compared to Russia ranked at 3. Denmark oil consumption ranked 51, compared to Russia ranked 109. Denmark oil reserves ranked 42, compared to Russia ranked 8. Denmark natural gas production ranked 59, compared to Russia ranked 8. Denmark proven gas reserves ranked 60, compared to Russia ranked 1. Denmark coal production ranked 145, compared to Russia ranked 1. Denmark coal reserves ranked 145, compared to Russia ranked 2.
Have not checked out hypersonics or missile defence systems, and do believe Russia is ranked 1 for both.
You overlook that the Houthi rebels have destroyed and damaged many Abrams tanks. That’s a proven fact. The Russians will use their IED’s and ATGM’s to turn these NATO tanks into crumpled tin foil.
Also, concerning the Abrams performance in the Iraq war, far more were damaged and put out of action than you realize. A 2006 WaPo article described 530 Abrams sitting in warehouses at that time, too severely damaged for action, and waiting for heavy repairs. I can’t post the link here, but if you google search the issue, you’ll find the article.
You’re German, aren’t you?
Iraqis destroyed 80 abrams without owning tanks themselves..
I overlook nothing. the “Anti Houtis” are well known for being not the cleverest ones for the whole world. Ukras are not like that at all.
I have never told older Abrams are the best in the world. The leopards are closer to that. But I say they in many ways are equal or better then the Russian side.
Im from Denmark.
Still laughing at you saying the ‘Anti-Houtis’ are not known for being the cleverest. The irony, when compared to Jens.
So, you’re not only dumb, you’re also a racist.
If anyone have heard of Rick Riles from Tru-News that’s based in the U.S. he is warning that Nuclear War is going to break out this year, he played a video of a Russian Talk Show Host I don’t know their names, but the one with the Male and Woman that invite guest to talk about the War in Ukraine and the lady said she is predicting War is going to break out this Winter ❄️
Honestly I’m scared now, I know I have been on here criticizing Russia but now things are getting real, I don’t want to die in a Nuclear Holocaust, because my leaders constantly provoked Russia to strike the U.S. in a Pre-Emptive Nuclear Strike! Also something else Rick Wiles from Tru-News brought up that I never knew is that like in the 80’s
Dmitri Goodman a Romanian sent by God came to America warning that the U.S. will be burned to the ground by Russia, i know America has become wicked, but I don’t want this to happen I want Peace with Russia now! I need to speak to my leaders here, and appear on the News, this War needs to stop, before it goes too far!
It’s the most hilarious show, we are watching it to laugh. Can’t believe Russians believe this bullshit 😆😆😆
It’s entirely possible this war could end with Russia nuking a Ukrainian city. If that happens, there’s no way US/NATO is going to up the ante. Washington and Brussels will instead force their Ukrainian vassal state to capitulate to Russia.
Start getting the people onto the streets to protest against these lunatic politicians in western Europe and North America target the nato bases with CND protests block the roads and the railway network no nato traffic
I am in the UK and the UK regime is barking mad and satanic. The only way to purge the disgusting UK elite is for them all to be consumed by fire.
My dying wish would be to witness the end of the UK regime in a nuclear tsunami or fireball.
America has become wicked but it’s not the job of Russia to cleanse it with fire, it’s the job of men of that country who uphold the constitution to purge those who are wicked from their land.
That’s why the US is turning into a Zionist controlled police state prison.
I didn’t know that the spaniards are passionate bitches of the Anglo Saxons.
when you are broke, and rely on drunk brits to pay for the guest tunisians, you dance with canastas when they want you to.
Thats because You use Anglo Saxons about all of us by systematic misguiding to nail USA and UK.
In that world we all apart from the poor starving naked under umbrellea in the streets we also are nazis runned by Jews, which has stolen everything from us and from You too.
You really dont get simple things. One is that none can be rich if there is none to buy the produced stuff. So we produce and in contrast to the proletars in Ryustica by that has something to share.
We decide that sharing by taking in high tax and equalize as decided by Ourself and assisted by Our constitution administrated by teh PM and the Goverment.
Naming us as Weastern Europeans makes much more sence. People in France, Spain, Italý and Greece are very ofended if we name them as “Anlo Saxons.
Seveal of the new or regained states see themself as slaviens. From England?? NO Way. .
Can you translate?
it’s more than obvious that US fights Russia using EU weapons, depleting EU countries stocks (irreparably) so it would be very easy to extinguish any EU dream of its solo military play and through that move will even more ingrain itself into EU to the point of no return. As in old adage: keep Russians out, Americans in and Gerries down.
NATO was created to keep Germany occupied. This charade of united NATO members is just a puppet show for idiots.
With these stupid democracies that are ruled by polls combined with Givernment finded NGO Agitation and Propaganda of to get stupid to believe what Agitation sez…. The best way to get rid of NATO is to send these stupid NATO politicians and their hoards of haters in the direction of the Russians. Americans did that. Russians grounding this lbtq++++ shit to the ground.
Soon NATO will fall apart. Nasty parasytes of Ukropizdan will live between the rocks or with their parasyte compatriots in the West and war will be over. Americans will pack up, tell all European parasytes to fuck off and leave. Russians will clean up all these Eastern European parasytic shitholes like Rumania, BallTicks, Pooland, etc.
Russia has the biggest dwarfs too.
Isn’t Zelinski shorter than President Putin? Your point?
It much more You dont understand half a´Turkish Tourist camel about how we are as Our part of the word.
You dont understand fx how the Baltic Sea was a total open and mixted trade area for all of us around it and many incommers too such as Britts and Dutch.
You not even understand the reasons forthe DDR fences too keep people IN.
Here in Our oart we work hard to keep people OUT.
US dont figh Russia at all. None of us do. You infantile moron are told and even believe it. We have not even attacked Your kind even we have Monsantofor bugs.
For 30 years Ukraine has been an own country by conditions for UN. Thats what we support as European United states also having own weaponproductionj and a big GDP.
Ukraine does not even have borders that are recognised in International Law, as confirmed by the Secretary General of the UN, back in 2014. They have never ratified their borders, with Russia or Belarus, since the fall of the Soviet Union, back in 1991. They are only recognised whilst Ukraine is part of the CIS. Then you have the history behind the Montreux Convention 1936, regarding the Regime of the Straits. Funnily enough, it all started with Turkey getting cheesed off with the US and Great Britain threatening their sovereignty. Not forgetting the US has never ratified the ‘Law of the Seas Convention’, which provides International Law to the World’s Seas and Oceans. Now why does the US keep involving itself with Law of the Seas violations, when they are not a member of the Convention?
“For 30 years Ukraine has been an own country by conditions for UN.” a unique chance to build own identity and prosperity for their people. Instead of this they chose nazism and war with Russia (e.g. the own people of this artificial country), for the sake of some foreign leader 10.000 km away. They will get the next chance in maybe 300 years. Sorry Ukrainian friends , the same like Kurds , you can’t build your independence at the expense and damage of your neighbors.
AND: We choose Our own destiny and You dont.
By that we are in Western Economicsb and EU. The GDP is almost the sae as for USA.
We also are in Nato
Your kind is members of the collapsed Warzaw pact and Ciomecon. Should we and Ukriane listen and learn from there???
You are still in bed with the Stalin created historybooks and like talking to a TV. It hs no EARS Mr & Mrs SAL.
Did you hear the speach from Victoria Nuland, over the last few days?
Where she states she is going over to India to get them to come around to her way of thinking, where Russia is concerned and that they have not given up on regime change in Belarus.
Guess she cannot understand why nations are no longer willing to be purchased or blackmailed into regime change. She actually used samples of Kosovo and Rwanda. Remembering that NATO invaded Kosovo, using ‘self determination’ argument, same as Crimea, Donetsk and Lugansk. Plus, Rwanda, it took the UN 2 decades to notice the genocide of 800,000 citizens of Rwanda. After the diamond and oil industries were up and running. Funny how Nuland is bragging about the carpet bombing regime change script of Bosnia and the Rwanda Genocide. There again, she was one of the cookie monsters that turned up for The Maidan, back in 2014 with the same script at hand.
NATO is not at war with Russia they are just doing a VSMO (very special military operation )…
I quickly did the math and what has been promised is not close to 300 Leopard 2’s, not even 100. Germany has exactly 236 so their ability to supply many is nil, no one else has even close to that number. I suspect the polish will donate their more aged tanks along with the 14 they promised. This is not really and armored war perse, I suspect any frontal armor attack by either side will end in disaster.
You are probably correct. The Houthis have been obliterating Saud Abrams tanks for years. The rebels use ATGM’s to deadly effect.
Anything the Houthis can do, the Russians can do better.
Yup those Faggot ATGMs are effective 😆
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qOz0bKxPKpw
You forget the Ukras are much better in warfare then the “anti houthis”.
The word is “were”. Most of the capable personnel the Ukies had is now underground or disabled. What is left is novices and kids, collected at a gunpoint and pressed to service.
Only Zelinsky has mentioned the 300 number as his wich.
But whatever he gets they are not stand alones. He gets piranas, strykers and bradleys.
He also get a lot more much more acccurate artillery.
Its a package and wont get full fast. They have to have educted people for it and cooordinate with the infantery as well the vehicles has to be maintained.
Clear trenches the easy way with Su-25 and napalm. Eliminates equipment and personnel both at high rate. Follow with cluster mines and munitions to slow the retreat so the job can be completed. Don’t pay for the same real estate twice. There’s lots of artificial limbs available these days so the nazis can remember their shelling civilians each day as they hobble around.
Western tanks are trash as russian Nazis are saying but at the same time NATO is escalating with them? We all know what this contradiction means: Russians are afraid like fck 😆😆😆
Why do the ukrogoblins need those tanks? It’s a sign of weakness. I thought all they needed was javelins? Oh they did nothing. Bayraktars? Oh they’re all destroyed. Ghost of Kiev? Didn’t exist. m777? Mostly destroyed. HIMARS? Would be decent if there was 100x more of them and they weren’t already mostly destroyed. How the fuck is Ukraine not able to do anything even with over $100b in funding? How?
Nato has proven itself to be the most incompetent military organization in the world if they can’t do shit even with infinite funds again just a couple hundred thousand Russians. Absolutely embarrassing and truly the laughing stock everywhere outside of America’s propaganda bubble.
We saw in Ukraine how strong russian forces really are – a war with the NATO would be over in a couple weeks with US soldiers marching through Moscow 😀
But if that happened, none of us would remain alive long enough to write about it on this board. That’s because all of North America and Europe would be nuked.
We did see that the Ukrainians were unable to repel the Russian SMO despite eight years of NATO training, advising, arming and providing intelligence to, the Ukrainian armed forces. Javelins, and Inlaws and HIMARS and M777s and the Russians are consolidating gains in four oblasts.
And the many Putin statues in all streets?
You dont get it. The Ukras according UN only has had defencive weapons. They gave aways their many nukes to Russia.
Emus listen when their heads are close to the soil. You dont.
Thats avery big buble. You are supported by Eritrea, North Korea, Assad, Lukashenko and Cuba. India and China are as neutral as they can be.
I live in that socalled buble. We are not laughing and has just donate 12 Ceasars to Ukraine and will send more. We also support the Ukras here. Its mainoly women with chidren and grandparents. more then 5000 now has descent jobs.
We also donate repair into Ukraine. The last sending was windows to Nikolayev. Beforeit was watercleaning machines generators included.
Most like You not even dare toi try to know.
I do. I live here. No freezing starving ones in the streets.
It’s not a “so called” bubble, it’s a veritable bubble. If you’re supporting Ukraine, you’re supporting their genocidal extremist regime, for the sake of NATO which is a terrorist organization. Not knowing all that isn’t an excuse. And it will come back to bite you.
The Trend is confirmed, those who command the West are desperate, they think that with poor quality soldiers, with poor military means, one can win. But they don’t even win by accident against a banana republic! (In Somalia, a major producer of bananas, it annoyed the Americans, 25,000 marines arrived and were defeated, after several helicopters were shot down and several dead).
With Western aid Ukrainians will continue fighting until all Orcs are repelled from all Ukrainian lands.
Propaganda does not win wars.
The Orcs are the Ukrainians and the lands are Russian. You’ve got your facts backwards.
Most of it istaken from the Tatars and Kossacs. The rest is more polish then being member of the Russian cirkus.
what is a orc
They are ugly and evil beings from fairy tales.
That’s the entire Ukretard stock-in-trade. Made-up stories. Orcs, ghosts, a vast Ukrainian state. The clip in the Oliver Stone movie of Yushchenko describing this imaginary Ukrainian state that never existed is quite remarkable. These are some seriously batshit crazy kooks in Galicia.
J.R. Tolkien trilogy, “The Lord of the Rings” lore.
USA will never abandon you!
Oh, did they develop a new policy toward puppets since they bailed on the South Vietnamese, Afghans and the Kurds about a half dozen times or so?
History shows USA abandons its pawns like used condoms.
Sure they sell them for baby milk to the Russian mothers.
Hard times for Rusian men. Soon they have to be married to two women.
your mommy rented you to lgbt when you were 9—–now your anus like mouth diarrhea
The British government are saying that the tanks they are sending to Ukraine should arrive by the end of march 2023 with the polish saying that they will need to train Ukrainian tank crews for the German leopard tanks the American tanks apparently will take longer to arrive in Ukraine with no definite date as yet! They will need to store this ordnance somewhere in Ukraine before they get the opportunity to use it we need to find this equipment and destroy it as soon as possible
“They will need to store this ordnance somewhere in Ukraine”
Anything stored in Ukraine will get bombed and destroyed by Russia. These tanks will need to remain on EU soil until they are sent into combat. They will need to return to EU soil for repairs after being damaged.
This won’t be an easy trick to pull by Ukraine and its US/NATO puppet masters.
Another stupidity. Big partsof Ukraine is no go zone for Russia.
You must be blind or worse.
You’ve mixed Ukraine for your own København, which does have a no go zones for you witless domestic white folk.
The Russians can, and did, strike anywhere they like in Ukraine.
None here give data like that, which are true. Its only true You cant make advanced or simple tankwarfare just like that.
Learn some history: the largest tank battle in history is Dubno-Lutsk-Rovno, with about 4500 : aprox. 3500 Soviets plus 700 German plus armored cars with tank guns (45mm).
Yes, US soldiers marching in chains while Russian kids beat them with stones.
The Russian Kornets decimated the Leopard 2 in Syria so no joy there but the real game changer are the drones. The drones are tank killers you can’t defend against on land and are to modern sea warfare what aircraft carriers were to Battleships in the day.
Nobody mentions the Kornet ripping up Jewish supremacist Merkavas in the hands of Hezbollah. According to the Jewish supremacists it’s the best tank in the world. Doesn’t bode well for the Panzers.
Sure, thats why there are no jews left in Israel too.
Under local conditions and semilar it migh be the best. Its very specialized. Outside its might be 5 to 9 .
What in the fuck was that gibberish supposed to mean?
Yeah just what Ukraine needs, 70 ton overweight gas guzzling turds on wheels, I got news for the fucking morons running NATO, the tiny little rural Ukrainian bridges cannot handle the continuous weight of multiple 70 ton Abrams tanks (145,000 pounds) the bridges are going to collapse having that much weight, imagine 6 or 7 tanks weighting 70 tons on a tiny little bridge. Fucking imbeciles. Russia has to keep purging, cleansing Ukraine, liberate the people.
I just saw a news item announcing that Russia intends to treat the depleted uranium ammunition that NATO uses, as nuclear weapons! The degenerate criminal idiots are warned.
I want to look into that more.
Its impossible. If it could USA and others would recycleit themself too.
None can do that. Its more heavy then irridum and a low radiactive waste product. But dont sleep with a grenade for many days. It might harm You.
As You wish. Be happy. Smile. The Abrams are sittíng ducks too. Brakeys migh be dead before they arrive too.
Most tanks are not working .. they need to be repearing by engineers
Russia has air assets. Russia has armor. Russia now has more expensive targets to shoot at. The ukranian army isn’t doing so good these days and zelensky should hang it up and surrender already
Zelensky is a Bolshevik there to kill as many christians as possible before fleeing to US.
Thats partly correct.Very much of the incomming will be replacments. Both sides has lost a lot of equipment as well as soldiers.
Just listened to a Western independent media interview with Robert Barnes lawyer they were talking about a visit by the C.I.A head to Ukraine after the Davas globalist meeting it is being suggested that the Ukrainian nationalist leadership are being taken out by Nato ‘ the helicopter crash’ along with numerous arrests and others fleeing Ukraine over the last week it is being suggested that Poland and Lithuania are planning with the aid of nato to use up any Ukrainian forces left and to size control of and divide up Western Ukraine
The Ukrainian Interior Ministry helicopter crash was due to a Russian S400 hit. Right on the target.
We keep hearing in the western media about Russia’s upcoming spring offensive. How are Russian tanks going to move through the mud of a Ukrainian spring? The offensive is now!
Most likely, tanks are now obsolete. Too easy to destroy with ATGM’s. I haven’t read reports of the Russians relying much on tanks anymore. This spring, we’ll read about the destruction of most Abrams and Leopards used by the Ukrainians.
sure, better asap as long the ground is hard and frozen. but even in spring, the russian tanks are much lighter with wider chains. but what will happen with the 65-70 ton fatties like leo2, challanger or m1? they will stuck in the mud and will have also big problems to cross the most bridges and roads, which in ukraine usually have a maximum load capacity of 50 tons.
We all know that. You kind of expect the Ukras are less clever then You.
Many of us have seen the problemsn for the KV 1 and KV2 during WW2. They stopped making new ones ad went to more T34 as well as the IS series.
Spring is a relative. In Denmark we do have months but we do define spring as when we see tractors on the fields and we can try to make the first carrots.
It is inconsistent to on the one hand wail about the enemy getting weapons, and the same time on the other hand to brag about the inferiority of the enemies weapons.
That was in Yemen. That Abrams in flames.
The number of tanks, which will be send is only a symbolic policy.
now the confirm to send only a few dozent, to awoid bigger protests in theyr own countries. but there are 2.000 leopard tanks in the stocks of these nato and western countries and 6.000 of m1 abrams in the usa, so i bet they will send batches of some dozents month by moth, what will grow to a total of sure over 1.000, if we count in that the ukros got already some 400 soviet era tanks from poland and chech in the last 11 months.
That migh be right. It very much about being succesfull or not.
How will they transport these massive huge iron vehicles to Ukraine without Russia destroying them first? It’s impossible.
ukros gets hundrets of tanks and ifvs in the last 12 months, so i also still dont understand why russia is still not bombing hell out of all roads, highways, bridges, railroads, railstations, hubs and airfields in western ukraine.
Because they can’t. The only precision rockets left in Russia are nukes…
I gave You a plus, but it went down to minus too. Maybee Putin did it :)
Russian anti multiplication.
The answer is in your comment… it’s so convenient for Russia that NATO sends all their supplies to one spot where they can be scrapped.
They just simply dont have the capasity You are told. You are lied for. You are raised to be tricked.
Newest example.A Russian organ named MEDUZA is closed.
So much is forbidden land.Its not here. Weoften know more about Russia then the Russians do but too much guesssing also make big mistakes.
We do something like that every day. Ukras has very wel protected zones ruling there.
My own totally private FEELINGS says Ukras cover 30% very well and 20% at least some.
we all beside the mainstream media informed know all that since years, but now even the most dumbest and naive should understand, that this is a war to destroy or at least massively weaken the russian military and economy, planned long before. so i dont see any reason for not calling in now all the rest of the 2 million russian resrevists and give the order to pull out all of the thousands of tanks and ifvs from reserves to the factories for maintance and modernisation. than russia would be able to start a massive offensive before summer on all fronts and could totally defeat and smash all of ukropistans mlitary within months, including the capture of the whole coastline and kiew, to imprison the coca clown and his staff.