Map Update: Military Situation In Aleppo And Raqqah Provinces After Syrian Army Advances At Ithriyah-Resafa Roads

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This map shows the military situation in the provinces of Aleppo and Raqqah after a successfull government advance against ISIS at the Ithriyah-Resafa road. The Syrian Army Tiger Forces have liberated Bir Abu Alaj, the Syriatel checkpoint and nearby points.

Map Update: Military Situation In Aleppo And Raqqah Provinces After Syrian Army Advances At Ithriyah-Resafa Roads

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  • Aquartertoseven

    Let’s get real here bros; without the Kurds, none of this would’ve been possible. Turkey was working too heavily with ISIS, who they shared a long border with, and the SAA had little to no chance of pushing them back (look at the momentous struggle just to get a finger to Tabaqa, which was a massive failure, and the struggle for Kuweires and its surrounding area, before the widescale expansion that was a joint offensive with the Kurds, who wiped out ISIS in the north and around Manbij).

    You’re all totes hating about the Kurds taking the north and still taking more, but this is the best you’re going to get, because they’re a buffer to Turkey, they allow the likes of the US to save face and depart plus the Kurds’ expansion is the direct cause for the SAA claiming back most of the country including its gas and oil fields, vital for the economy.

    • Hrky75

      You got things mixed up. In 2013-14 Kurds were losing ground rapidly and being stuck fighting for their life in Kobane. It took 6 months of NATO air strikes for them to survive. SAA was winning the war in late 2013 and if US and friends didn’t decide to double down, the war would have been over years ago. Nobody in his right mind was against the Kurds until they started playing for the same jihadi team that was poised to kill them just a year ago. Also the idea of Rojava encompassing 1/3 of Syria with 70% of non-Kurds is ridiculous and possible only with US Army muscle. And that’s no way of creating a country – but a perfect way to create trouble for neighboring countries and one Great (and happy) Israel.

      • Aquartertoseven

        That’s not true at all, the SAA lost the entire north and northeast pretty much in 2013, they weren’t winning! The only thing that happened for them in late 2013 was their thin, weak supply line to their formerly besieged half of Aleppo. They were otherwise stagnant, with the slightest push causing them to flee en masse and give up half of their territory along with all of the major oil/gasworks (which happened).

        And as for the Kurds creating Rojava in a majority, 70% non-Kurd area, how is that different to Alawites ruling a nearly 90% non-Alawite country, a significant number of whom don’t want them?

        • Solomon Krupacek

          and see you? alawites and druzes die for country. they desrve. kurds deserve bullet.

          • Bill Wilson

            Fuck you.

          • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

            No you deserve the Fuck you ! 100% Bonafide Idiot !

          • That Guy

            Oh wow, what a valid argument, you have proven your point the best way possible. lol

          • Gary Sellars

            No, fuck you, Jihadi-sympathiser idiot…

          • Aquartertoseven

            Ah, the nutcase, a little more civil this time around (well, to me! Your genocidal hopes for Kurds notwithstanding). Alawites fight and die to maintain control of the country, otherwise they’d be marginalised and persecuted. And the Druze have a deal to only defend their areas, so not really for the country now, are they.

          • Leonardo Watch

            Mostly Tatruos and latakia people dyeing not many from Raqqa or deir ezzor go figure. They died because SAA made stupid military plans which is common.

          • Solomon Krupacek

            bullshit

        • Hrky75

          Check your facts. By late 2013 even western diplomats and MSM were declaring Assad has won the war – the first time. FSA “revolution” was defeated and it took joint US/Turkey operation and 100s millions of $ in weapons to restart the effort. And then in 2014 ISIL appeared “out of thin air” in western Iraq and started the rampage. The rest of your comment is just plain stupid. If Alawites were exclusive rulers of Syria – the war would have been over in 2012 and we would be having Al Qaida emir sitting in Damascus. And if Alawites were monsters for allegedly ruling 90% non-Alawites by force – why copy them then? Doesn’t that make the Kurds deplorable and ripe for a regime change when the alliances shift? You didn’t think that one through – did you? As for significant numbers – 70% of Syrians supporting Assad according to western media – that’s significant…

          • Bill Wilson

            Assad has been fighting strongmen that used to back his daddy then his dumbass after quitting eyeball surgery. 70% of Syrians could give a shit about Assad and everyone else except the Kurds, who will be in charge of greater Syria when this crappy little war is over.

          • Hrky75

            You make absolutely no sense. If Assad was fighting ” strongmen that used to back his daddy” i.e. Baathist thugs (and he did in the beginning of his rule but way before the war) – then he was the real revolutionary not the FSA. And the Kurds will be “in charge of greater Syria” when hell freezes over and Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Syria call it quits and disintegrate – and that’s not gonna happen soon. Syrians support Assad because he is the most normal of options on offer – Al Qaida and friends; ISIL; some Iranian backed Shia extremist or the Kurds – mountain people best known for highway robbery in the old days and trusted Turkish sidekicks in the Armenian genocide in more modern times. Yeah if I were a Syrian Arab I’d choose to live under PKK one party dictatorship, ruled by grandchildren of mountain cutthroats too …

          • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

            There are no Iranian backed Shia extremists only Saudi/Jordan backed Sunni extremists .

          • Hrky75

            I mentioned it as a hypothetical option. And, hypothetically Assad might be changed with some hard line pro Iranian politician – God forbid…

          • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

            Now the even the Iranians are not hardliners and wish death to supporters of terrorism , MEK is connected to Israel and they have been linked to the Old Shah’s execution squads supported by Israel ,now you can understand Iran’s dislike for Israel .

          • Hrky75

            I know a lot about Israel-Shah connection. Israelis are always befriending the worst murderers on the ME – after Shah they found love in Riyad…

          • Aquartertoseven

            The entire north, Raqqa, Idlib, Hasakah, most of Aleppo (with the government area besieged for miles and miles), hardly a war won for Assad!

            You don’t understand; you have a problem with the Kurds ruling an area where they aren’t the majority. Alawites do the same thing when they’re even more of a minority. The thing is that non-Alawites fight with Assad, just like non-Kurds and fighting with the Kurds.

            I’m not saying that Alawites are monsters (although their leaders have undoubtedly done some awful things, en masse), but they are more than a little tyrannical. Better since Assad took over and better since, but still not exactly too good. The Kurds aren’t ruling by force, look at the Manbij Military Council. Look at the council they’ve set up for Raqqa. All Arabs.

            Alliances won’t shift; bailing on the Kurds leaves all of Syria for Assad and therefore Iran. Whereas taking a massive slice away from Assad/Iran and creating another, anti-Iranian nation in its place will serve Western interests, so it’s viable for the near future at the very least. Turkey won’t be happy but Israel/US/the Gulf states etc. need the Shia Crescent distracted.

            *70% reported by the western media from Syrian elections. Hey I think Assad is better than any alternative but like Russia come on, it’s a farce to think that they’re THAT POPULAR. Look at any other nation, it’s unheard of, especially for a country that’s in a state of civil war!

      • Dustil schmit

        SAA was winning really in 2013?
        http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ITkWsxntRpQ/UicZUn9F-2I/AAAAAAAAABs/z74afDiV6I4/s1600/Syrian_civil_war.png
        The idea of SAA controlling every square inch of Syria is ridiculous and possible only if Iran/Russia/hebllbozah muscle are involved.

        • Hrky75

          Yes. Controlling together with the Kurds they were allied with 60% of all of Syria and 100% of the good parts of the country. Controlling ALL provincial capitals and beating back rebel offensives on Daara, Idlib and Aleppo several times. The famed FSA was beaten and in retreat. The situation was so bad that Turkey organized Ghouta false flag CW attack and prompted Obama’s famous “red line” statement and what john Kerry later described – 5 bn $ worth of money to be shoveled in the country..

          • Aquartertoseven

            Hasakah and Qamishli completely isolated and besieged. Deir Ezzor and Idlib too. Aleppo besieged, and only the 50% or less that they controlled. Raqqa, Manbij and Al Bab all gone.

    • Solomon Krupacek

      and you, kurds today cut water supply for aleppo. you should die.

      • Dustil schmit

        TURKS are cutting the water flow to the Euphrates by using dams and ground blockers. Hence lack of power for water pumps.

        • Solomon Krupacek

          BEIRUT, LEBANON (7:50 P.M.) – The US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces
          (SDF) have obstructed water to over 1 million residents of Aleppo City,
          today, a Syrian government source reported.

          The Syrian Democratic Forces reportedly blocked the water from the
          Euphrates Dam that feeds into the Khafsa Pumps, halting the supply to
          people of Aleppo City.

          While no reason was given for SDF’s actions, it is likely due to the
          recent tiff between their forces and the Syrian Arab Army in the
          southwestern countryside of the Al-Raqqa Governorate.

          • Dustil schmit

            Power been cut been cut because not enough power to keep it going shove it already by the turks.

          • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

            what a fiction you just told there is no need for power to transfer the water , just more nonsense from an idiot .

          • Leonardo Watch

            Fiction you saying you know more then Aleppo governor?
            Aleppo Governor: Reasons behind current water crisis are: 1. lower water level in Euphrates from Turkey to Syria (160 instead of 500m3/s for Syria/Iraq). 2. Power from Tishreen Dam cut off from Khafsah Plant (now restored and was related to lowering Euphrates water level by Turkey). 3. Rebels blew up 1400mm line in Zahraa area which feeds Tishreen tanks.
            https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/879697938364088321

          • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

            The numbers have been jumping between 130-160 and higher the number 500m3/s has never been achieved in its operation since that is the max flow capacity . The Taqba Dam has been always a disappointment since its beginning , the actually have another dam downriver to work as a floodgate in the region .You never know I could live in a region where irrigation and dams are synonymous walking and breathing .

        • Bru

          How can you have so much bad faith? It tells a lot about what kind of people you are (I will not remember that it was the Kurds who butchered the Christians during the Armenian genocide on behalf of Ankara).
          (OK Turks selfishly have been lowering the water flow for years, but this is no issue here, as the pump have always been sucking water upwards (and this until yesterday before Kurdish terrorists turned off the pumps) this is completely unrelated to today’s Kurdish act of terrorism)

          • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

            These are the typical actions expected of the PKK/PYD terrorist wing , the show is being run by Turkish Kurds of the PKK . They have shown up a couple years ago and have started all this nonsense we are seeing now along with the Iraq KRG members aiding them .

          • Mozzy

            ” it was the Kurds who butchered the Christians during the Armenian genocide on behalf of Ankara).”

            Interesting possibility, links to decent sources please.

          • Solomon Krupacek

            historical fact. no links, schoolbooks of history.

          • Leonardo Watch

            Mostly by Iraq kurds look it up before spewing nonsense.

          • Solomon Krupacek

            no iraq kurds. kurds. in that time were only kurds :P

            learn first, teach after

          • Aiden Zayne

            I have personal bad faith in Turks when one states this “Our water our spring. We can do whatever we want. Even complete cut off the water by building forward damms. Then as promised they will get from 500m3/sec only 50.
            And We never signed the water treaty of the clown organization called UN. Like i said our property. We do as we pleased.” They been doing it rapidly and now they made a choice to power themselfs or other people they pick themselfs.
            The pumps are under SAA control they have generators don’t they?

          • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

            The dam is the Syrian nations dam not a Kurdish dam you tell me ,who is responsible , the US engineers should not listen to the Communists Kurds and this group should be disposed with a chemical attack to blame on them against local population in Raqqa from their artillery. Then the US can take control of the area as a humanitarian mission and make the Kurds a minority ruled group again . Division complete all under the UN guise and full NATO forces takeover of the region and install a puppet regime officially declared NATO protectorate .

          • Leonardo Watch

            Aleppo Governor: Reasons behind current water crisis are: 1. lower water level in Euphrates from Turkey to Syria (160 instead of 500m3/s for Syria/Iraq). 2. Power from Tishreen Dam cut off from Khafsah Plant (now restored and was related to lowering Euphrates water level by Turkey). 3. Rebels blew up 1400mm line in Zahraa area which feeds Tishreen tanks.
            Now say you are sorry for jumping to conclusions.
            https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/879697938364088321

        • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

          Stop being an idiot by thinking the saying two wrongs don’t make it right is just idyll banter . The fact PKK/PYD/KRG did it is a terrorist act , no doubt with the blessing of the US to create a humanitarian crisis .

          • Dustil schmit

            You stop being an idiot. You tell me YPGKRG is terrorists right after Russia and SAA make deal for to get 25% of all oil for protecting the homs/raqqa see my finger? You accuse the US about being all about oil then Russia goes and does the same damn thing.

          • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

            You apparently do know this Syria’s sovereign territory thus the oil and the deal is for arms , this is the new way to conduct business by trading for actual goods and not toilet paper because that is what is backing it . The Kurds are being lead by these communists and when they leave the Syrian Kurds will be left holding the bag , which most Kurds support the Syrian government now stop being a know nothing troll and talk like some empty head about it .

      • Bru

        Thank you for this terrible news about this terrorist act. Who can say now that they are not terrorists? It is high time for an international coalition against the Kurdish terrorist organizations such as SDF.

        • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

          This is what they want and then the UN steps in and they create a SyFOR gives legitimacy to the US presence in Syria . The US engineers running the dam shouldn’t be playing these games this looks bad on the US for allowing this to happen . They just show their hand more by day, they like to continue to support terrorists because this is a way they can backdoor their activities as legal actions.

        • Dustil schmit

          Ohh wait now this is a terrorists look up the word terrorist attack you moron holding off strategic resources is called part of the war plan SAA does it all the time now shut up.

          • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

            Ohhh what the f*-k now , saying a sovereign nation right to protect and secure its resources is terrorism ! You tired A$$ Troll you seem to have your confused issues about this and your in need of case of shut the hell up ! The empty-headed double speak is getting boring and you have no idea what a terrorist is, since the Kurds via the SDF have done exactly what you just said. Just a little heads up the Syrian Kurds are refusing US orders to attack the SAA , so all you will see is Iraqi or Turco Kurds doing it .

        • Leonardo Watch
      • Aquartertoseven

        WOW, you’re fucked up! Why should I die exactly, you lunatic?

    • Xanatos

      It is you who is committing folly here.

      The kurds have their territory, but the SDF are mercenaries from iraq and some from turkey, who were hired as mercenary force to colonize large swathes of non-kurdish towns and cities across northern syria. The idea that they can possibly rule over population that is 90% arab is destined to fail. It will only inspire revenge against kurds. When the us leaves, those kurds will go back to iraq and it is the syrian kurds who will suffer the consequences.

      The syrian kurds must declare the SDF a foreign invader and fight them if they care about their long term.

      The argument that syria owes syrian kurds a favor and should give away a third of syria to iraqi kurds is a non-starter. This is an invasion of syria where the 300,000 syrians in raqqa province are not kurdish.

      • Bill Wilson

        You obviously have shit for brains.

        • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

          Obviously the shit for brains is seeping out of your head . Brainless Zombie spewing nonsense go back to your Rocking Chair .

          • Leonardo Watch

            You were born to be brainless retard? Makes sense now get back to mental asylum already escapey.

          • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

            Leonardo Watch seem like a zombie response from someone with no horse in the fight , you proved my point by your senseless statement you are a brainless troll and escaped from the asylum for the totally inept.

      • Jürgen Walter

        Define Kurdish cities and towns that were arabtized by Assad father? Al-Hasakah, Al-Malikiyah?

        • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

          Define Kurdish presence in Northern Syria from every failed coup attempt and how they started to support the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria . Come on you are supposed to be from an intelligent logical race , espouse your knowledge on this topic and not empty blind rhetoric .

        • Xanatos

          Before the war, syrian Kurds were predominately in hassakeh province, northeastern Syria, as well as the afrin canton in aleppo province and in small areas in idlib. Their numbers in raqqa province and deir ezzor provinces were tiny.

          Anyone familiar with Kurds history knows they are hill people, not desert people. Even kobane, a small modern rail stop town on raqqa province was only half Kurd before the war -and it is right on the border with Kurdish population in southern turkey, which is hilly.

          How anyone can support Kurds colonizing raqqa and deir ezzor provinces either is planning ethnic cleansing of those people who are overwhelmingly Arab, or they see no problem with a dictatorship where 10% of the population controls the other 90% who don’t even speak their language.

          Sounds like alawite control of Syria,
          Except alawite speak Arabic. Kurdish isn’t even a Semitic language. It is related to Iranian.

          Btw, Iran is where they came from. The kassites originally lived in their mountain territory north and east of Mesopotamia . The Greeks called then Cosseans. Alexander the great tried to exterminate them for their banditry. It left a vacuum, Iranians moved in and mixed with the remnant kassites , and their descendants created the Kurdish people.

          • Aquartertoseven

            You were doing well until your last paragraph; how about Arabs? Pretty sure they come from Arabia. Maybe Syria’s Arabs should go back to where their ancestors came from, if the Kurds must return to Iran.

          • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

            What nonsense you just spouted , “You were doing fine until your last ;how about Arabs ?Pretty sure they come from Arabia.Maybe Syria’s Arabs should go back to where their ancestors came from, if Kurds must return to Iran.” , there is one problem that 2/3 Kurds would have to return Afghanistan and the other 1/3 to Russia but they were expelled like the other Khazar tribes . The word Arab means desert does not necessarily mean they are from that region , Syriacs , Alawites ,Assyrians,Armenians are all from that region even their are the Sunni, Shias they all have been there longer than the made up group called the Kurds . The fact some of them really don’t share common cultures and customs , but are lumped together .The problem with your lack of knowledge of the region is apparent and the history of the middle east.

          • Aquartertoseven

            You’re being semantic and petty; I was following your own example, the point is that if the Kurds don’t belong there and should go back to where their ancestors originated from, so should the Arabs.

            Of course it does, Arabs originate from Arabia, they poured out of there and took over North Africa and the Middle East. And your justification for them staying is warped and wholly biased; how do you think Arabs came to dominate the area as the Kurds are now? They fought and murdered the populations already living there, the Assyrians and such who were marginalised and persecuted still.

            Arabs set up different nations with slightly different cultures (still the same language and sharia though), that doesn’t stop them from being Arab and joined together by that definition, as well as originating from Arabia. Syrian and Iraqi Kurds have different cultures and customs too by the way.

            No, the fact is that you’re a total hypocrite; you apply standards to the Kurds that apply to Arabs too; being where they don’t belong due to domination. But you hate the Kurds and like the Arabs, so the Arabs are exempt in your mind, which is ridiculous.

          • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

            The Arabs married into the local people , just as the conquerors of anywhere did . You are the one arguing with petty semantics and have a blind acceptance of the Kurds and have a hatred against the Arabs. Shias practice Sufism which is similar like Christian Flagellants. The Kurds all they did was roll all these smaller tribes into them but pretty much as a conqueror from the east would by killing the men and marrying the women . They came with Ghengis Khan do you think he was a gentle conqueror.

            They were used by the Ottomans for their barbarism and brutality , the areas they claim are old Armenia,Assyria saying they are ancient residents of those lands . The Kurds seem to have the minority in them who are by nature tyrannical pirates and the others accept the fact or ignore it . The Kurds have always destroyed artifacts or any evidence of previous cultures , which is what they did even recently in Iraq and Syria. The various tribes are even diverse in genetics from one another and language and customs , Zazakis separate language and gene tree altogether, Yezedis again , etc. ,DNA is fascinating when both sides are checked .

            The Kurds have achieved nothing without the help of others in the region with full backing of the Coalition Support and actual boots doing all the heavy lifting . The fact these same PKK/KRG/PYD and there personal YPG police have conducted terrorist attacks in Syria, Turkey,Iraq seems O.K. to you . This how the minority rules the majority through fear and intimidation . Just have a dislike for manipulation of facts and people by the minority few .

            When the US turns its back on the Kurds in Syria which it will do , then you will see the full severity of their crimes. They will no longer be hidden by the US media , and exposing them is how the US uses it’s control of others yet they are responsible the misdeeds .

      • Aquartertoseven

        Syrian Kurds needed outside help just as much as Assad did. Does. It’s funny how you think that Assad is entitled to land he had no hope of regaining with just the SAA, let alone from an entirely different faction in the form of the Kurds. Syria has just agreed to give Russia 25% of all oil revenue from oil fields captured from here on out, it’s not unreasonable to assume that the Kurds should get a similar deal.

        The US won’t fully leave, the anti-Iranians of the Middle East and beyond need a Syrian Kurdistan, to weaken Assad and Iran’s grip over the Shia Crescent.

        You can’t give away what you don’t have. Assad doesn’t have the north, his troops fled from there and had no hope of regaining it. The Kurds deserve it, because they actually fought for it.

        • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

          Syrian government held the north before the idiot Kurds started losing it to ISIS in 2013 and the original deal was with the Arab forces of the SDF , shows you the US are ready to stab anyone in the back. The Kurds deserve nothing they had to have Coalition bombing and boots on the ground reclaiming areas they lost , since this being the case this would mean that the Syrian Government would retain control still. They have enforced conscription which isn’t working to well for them and steal land and force the Arab people and anyone not with them out.

          The oil is owned nationally and over 70% of the people are Syrian Arabs .The actions they have done are genocide and ethnic cleansing . Which can be prosecuted under international law , they flout Syrian law only one wife by having multiple wives and only claim one but the others claim welfare as single parents.

          The US will be forced to leave and all this fake nonsense in regards to a Shia Crescent is just more shit blowing from the US . The Fiction spouted by the US is so empty of evidence and factual information , leaves one asking a simple question why?

          • Aquartertoseven

            “Syrian government held the north before the idiot Kurds started losing it to ISIS”

            That doesn’t make sense. So you’re saying that the SAA didn’t hold the north, if the Kurds started losing it?

          • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

            The SAA had made a deal that the SDF would defend the region , but in 2013 the Kurds who were supposed to be protecting the region started losing control to ISIS by withdrawing from any confrontation. This left the local populace at the mercy of ISIS after the Kurds had taken their weapons away to allow for no defense.The leader of the Turkoman negotiated the presence of NATO, as usual US imposes itself in the region.The NATO ground forces regained much of the lost territory with prolonged bombing by NATO for 6 months this helped turn the tide in that region . What makes sense is you are stupid enough to miss important facts like this .

          • Aquartertoseven

            So the SDF were to defend the region where the SAA were powerless, but the SAA still wanted it back!

            So it’s okay for the SAA to get overwhelmed by ISIS and flee en masse (central Syria, Deir Ezzor, Palmyra 3 times etc.) but the Kurds aren’t allowed, when they have none of the firepower, jets, helis etc. that the SAA had? Only starting to fight back when the US started helping?

      • Attrition47

        If the Syrian Kurds have any sense they will use the territory they control to bargain for some type of regional autonomy. It might work to the Syrians’ advantage to concede quite a big area so that the Kurds have a restive non-Kurd population looking to get them out….

    • Ma_Laoshi

      I’d *greatly* prefer if you were right, or if the difference could be spit between non-jihadi actors. You write “allow [] the US to save face and depart” but it’s turning into “allow the US to save face BY STAYING”. That’s the stuff that causes wars. I’d say any faction that still survives has proven they can fight, yet none is so good at it that they can dominate outright. You face an… uphill battle of persuasion when so many Kurdish leaders *themselves* talk and act as if they no longer care about their neighbours.

      • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

        They committed these same things in the Balkans and because of their desire to be supreme above all others the rest of the world pays for their treachery to humanity .

      • Aquartertoseven

        They’ll keep a base or two there, as they do in scores of countries but they won’t need armies to maintain the neighbours’ acknowledgement of a US presence there.

        • Ma_Laoshi

          That’s just a different world view that Uncle Sam setting up bases everywhere is normal and proper because of the flag, “stability”, and the Founding Fathers. And God I guess. That view may or may not be challenged on the ground in future.

    • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

      The SDF and not the Kurds were taking the north get your facts straight they were given this region along with the SDF to protect and so far they are not living up to expectations . They attacked Hasakah which was in SAA control and a majority Arab area . The US/coalition is responsible for all the gains and not the Kurds whenever they are left to defend they lose heavily . what do you expect of a group of terrorists they aren’t soldiers . There will be no Kurdish state , the actual Manbij council did most of the fighting and requested aide from the US and not the Kurds. The actual council even told them to leave and requested the SAA to be there and not the PYD/PKK/KRG Kurds and even offered to hand over their weapons to the SAA and refused when asked by the Kurds, the SAA refused and said the local militias would need them . Kurds KRG/PKK/PYD have been known to participate in the massacres against Arabs, Turcos ,Syriacs ,Armenians in the region .

    • Gary Sellars

      Why should we want the Yankistani btardz to “save face”? I want nothing more than to see these fckerz forced to eat shit…

      • Aquartertoseven

        Because what you want doesn’t matter in the slightest. Fact is that they’re there, and the SAA have no chance of kicking them out, so they’ll need certain conditions if they ever plan to leave, this being one of them; they hardly want a Vietnam style embarrassment again.

    • Justin Ryan

      Cutting off the water supply is bad!
      Also they attacked the SAA from that small Kurdish pocket in Aleppo when the SAA at to drive around to the cities north when the FSA broke the Defence lines! They shelled the road so no SAA could pass!
      Also in Quasmili near the USA airbase in north east Syria they attacked the govt region there too!
      They do what they are told!
      They are scum!
      They just welcomed the help of Saudi Arabia!
      WTF!

      Why dont u wake up and smell whats cookin!
      SDF is just another group aided by the USA to seem like the good guys! Yet the USA aided the FSA and ISIS!
      So any group aided by USA is just another terror group!
      The SAA and Russia are guarding Manbij so the Turks wont attack!

      i have a feeling the Turks will be let lose!
      Because the SDF have proven to be scum also!

      • Leonardo Watch

        SAA has been proven to be scum when they locked up civilians just because they are pro YPG and trying to stirir relations probably by outside parts of SAA goverment which want war with them. 83 people womena and children what ddi they do wrong?

        • Justin Ryan

          Ok so lets compare both arguements!
          I stated that the SDF attacked the SAA at the Aleppo Road in the North by shelling vehicles and also by attacking and killing SAA soldiers in Quasmili in north east (near the American airbase)

          So which incident came first?
          The arrests u claim happened or the attacks on the SAA?

          Also which incident is worse?

          Killing people or arresting them?

          I rest my case!

    • MeMadMax

      You know what, I had a list of a whole bunch of reasons why the kurds will be annihilated after they “liberate” raqqa… But I figured it would be a total waste of time to list them all for you because you are either too stupid or won’t listen anyways…
      So, anyways… kurds will be hung out to dry as soon as or soon after raqqa is liberated.
      And if you haven’t figured out why that will happen before it actually does happen, then enjoy the show…
      It’s gonna be magical…
      The… End…

    • kurdi aram

      Most of anti-kurdish Comments because kurds are being used as US-american proxy in western Asia.

  • Solomon Krupacek
  • Attrition47

    Perhaps the Southfront cartographer will soon have to fill the liberated areas in with a crayon.

  • kurdi aram

    Iranian,russians,syrian and Hezbollah have no problems with a kurdish administered region in Nord-Syria but they have problem with us-americans who are using Kurds as their political instrument.

  • Davey Price

    The Kurds although vital in securing northern Syria, are in no position to declare an independent state.
    They will not nor either will they have the ability to hold NSyria after there collusion with the US.
    Turkey will be chomping at the bit to invade Kurd held NSyria, they did a silly thing never trust America.
    They will leave you to the wolves and what if the SAA and allies stayed there side of Euphrates river while this took place.
    What was past is gone, get ready for an uncertain future