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Israeli Military “Expresses Sorrow” For Death Of Russian IL-20 Aircrew Members, Says Syria, Iran, Hezbollah Are Guilty

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A few moments ago, the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) finally released an official comment on the incident with a Russian IL-20 plane off Syrian coast.

The statement came after Russian Defense Ministery Sergei Shoigu stated that Israel bears full responsibility for the downning of IL-20 because its actions had led to this situation. Earlier, the Russian Defense Ministry said that Israeli warplanes used the IL-20 to hide from Syrian air defense fire during the September 17 Israeli strike on targets in the war-torn country.

So, the IDF expressed sorrow “for the death of the aircrew members of the Russian plane” and claimed that Syria, Iran and Hezbollah are the sides responsible for the incident.

Furthermore, the IDF contested the version of the events provided by the Russian Defense Ministry. According to the IDF, Israeli warplanes were “within Israeli airspace” when Syrian forces launched anti-aircraft missiles.

As to the strike on Syria itself, the IDF claimed that the strikes were aimed at “a facility of the Syrian Armed Forces from which systems to manufacture accurate and lethal weapons were about to be transferred on behalf of Iran to Hezbollah in Lebanon.”

The situation is developing.

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World_Eye

Oh screw you Zionists all YOUR FAULT…You inform Russia 1 min before attacking screw you Jews.

WirSindDieWelle

Oh my god ! Exterminate this tumor of Israel !!!

Red Pilled ThoughtCrimes

RT covering this without a break atm. Russia not happy

Zionism = EVIL

and what are Russian cowards going to do about this NOTHING! There are celebrations in Idlib too.

schiamachy

The American cowards are frightened to put their troops on the ground and instead hire mercenaries. As for making wild claims about Americans supplying Russians with weapons in WW2′, well yes Americans did profiteer during the war and only joined in the fighting when other countries and principally Russia had broken the back of the Axis armies. They still cannot go into a war unless they get backed up by other Western countries or if they are attacking tiny countries like Haiti.

Felix D (TUPPERWARE PARTY)

Translation: Bank robber expresses sorrow for death of his hostages but says police are responsible, and all hostages died due to police bullets.

Joe Kerr

So it comes down to who one believes… Shoigu or the IDF. The one minute notice hasn’t been contested by the IDF.

Zionism = EVIL

Zionists know that Russians are cowardly pussies and will do nothing.

Joe Kerr

Ask the Germans about that.

Zionism = EVIL

Russia in not the Soviet Union now but a small third world shithole.

Joe Kerr

So thought Hitler about Russia, and the USSR was born as a result.

Zionism = EVIL

Nope, USSR was born in 1917 by Marxist Jews like Lenin. Your history is way off amigo. Russians repelled the Germans because of Central Asian and Caucasian fighters and western weaponry via the Murmansk run. Russian Slavs are basically drunk cowards.

Joe Kerr

Communist Russia was born in 1917, the USSR came later (with Hitler’s help). Western weaponry? Such as?

Zionism = EVIL

What did US lend lease money buy for the USSR? 3,770 bombers, 11,594 fighter
planes, 5,980 anti-aircraft guns, 2,000 railroad locomotives, 51,000
jeeps, 361,000 trucks, 56,445 field telephones, 600,000 kilometers of
telephone wire, 22 million artillery shells, almost one billion rifle
cartridges, and 15 million pairs of army boots.

Shipped through the North Atlantic, driven up through Persia, or
flown in from Alaska, this ready-made war material also freed up 600,000
Soviet factory workers to directly fight the Germans. Without US assistance, primitive Russia would have collapsed.

Joe Kerr

So, where did Stalin buy all these western arms from? 11, 594 fighter planes bought from which country?

Zionism = EVIL

Mostly US and UK planes.D-3 transport and some bombers and fighters. It freed Russian industries to mass produce fighters.

Joe Kerr

The UK was short of planes, no spare ones to send to Russia. Try again. What planes did the U.S. send?

Zionism = EVIL

DC-3 Dakotas. 173 in all.

Joe Kerr

So, of the 3,770 bombers and 11,594 fighter planes mentioned, just 173 were western supplied?

Zionism = EVIL

Yes, but western engineering and technical help mass produced Russian fighters like the Stormovich, an inferior copy of the Spitfire.

Joe Kerr

The Stormovich (aka “flying tank”) and Spitfire were totally different aircraft built for different functions- one was for ground attack, the other was for engaging other aircraft. I’ll let you guess which was which.

Dawn of Svarog

Lend lease program accounted to about 8% of USSR war production (altough in some areas it was a lot more – studbraker) and most of the material came looong after the battle of Moscow – turning point of the war..

Concrete Mike

Lies again, by december 1941 it was over for the germans, us had only shipped 360000 tons of material, or 2.1% of the total.

The germans had already fucked up by then.

But all you care about is lying apparently.

Keep lying and ill call you a liar.

Zionism = EVIL

On 31 August, 2018 .a conference of
plenipotentiary delegations from the Russian SFSR, the Transcaucasian
SFSR, the Ukrainian SSR and the Byelorussian SSR approved the Treaty on
the Creation of the USSR and the Declaration of the Creation of the USSR, forming the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

Concrete Mike

Wow they braught back ussr last month??? Wow how did I miss that.

Oh wait, your a fucking idiot my bad.

schiamachy

If it was not for Russians nearly all Jewish people in Europe would have been executed. In fact many Jews now livinglin Palestine migrated from Russia. This probably partly explains why Russia is reticent at attacking Israel. The principal reason however is that Russia wants to get rid of the US terrorist proxies in Idlib without getting drawn into a wider conflict with NATO. They are keeping their powder dry until that is achieved.
While the West and Israel flirt with human extinction Russia acts within the bounds of sanity. That is why Zionist Evil gets so worked up and makes idiotic statements that reveal his insanity.

Concrete Mike

Finally somebody can explain it correctly. Good job!!!

Brother Thomas

Troll alert. Don’t let the name Zionism = EVIL fool you. His purpose is to disrupt discourse

Zionism = EVIL

TRUTH is always painful. Russian dumbasses have been caught with their fat arses down. The world is laughing.

Brother Thomas

Lol Troll. My last response to you.

Zionism = EVIL

but a TRUTHFUL one. What is Russia going to do ? NADA, not to be confused with LADA :)

Joe Kerr

Cut, paste and insult… dead giveaways.

Brother Thomas

No clear positions or ethics. Views extreme and inflammatory without context.

Zionism = EVIL

What content do you need sparky? the dumb Ruskies were flying a blind junk plane without air cover CAP in a war zone and got whacked, so does than need a PhD dissertation content?

Lena Jones

Israeli Jews: ‘Iran, Syria and Hezbollah caused WW1, WW2, Bolshevik Revolution, all Middle East wars, 9/11 and the Irish Famine. Oh and they also killed Jesus. They did it all! Not us – oh no it’s NEVER us jews, NEVER!!!! Always, always NEVER EVER EVER US CHOSENITES”!

Lena Jones

I can hear the Russian bear roaring at this jewish bullshit.

Zionism = EVIL

Putin is a Jew himself and gave Nutter Yahoo the green light to attack Syria 200 plus times. Russia is weak and its junk weaponry is exposed daily.

Lena Jones

Don’t you have anything else to say for yourself, Mr. Repeato?

Zionism = EVIL

Pete and repeat and enjoying the Russian idiots crawling. What kind of a military that does not have basic IFF and can not protect itself. It is time to Balkanize Russia.

Fraggy_Krueger

But first let´s reunite your brain.

Back to content:
I wonder what assets do give Israel so often a carte blanche, but even such a good hand can be overplayed – especially as Putin is dependent on the (overwhelming) support of the Russian population. He can´t made be looking to weak – (because most people don´t understand that time is the major weapon the Russians do have in this game) that actually woul be in the interest of nobody but crazy warmongers .

Concrete Mike

Its time for you to go to bed kid and let the adults discuss this story.

Balkanize russia??? Thats equal to nuclear armageddon.

You stupid peice of shit trying to maniupulate us.

Why areyou defending israel??

How would you feel if inwalk down the street and beat the crap out of someone because hes from iran??

Thats what your chums in israel are doing.

Free man

You can always volunteer to fight.
Or it’s easier to criticize others with the keyboard.

Zionism = EVIL

No need, just watching the Jews kill and humiliate dumb Russian cowards is entertaining enough :) I will get some more popcorn though.

You can call me Al

Dont talk Bllx.

Concrete Mike

Junk weaponry???

Can you fuck off…junk like m16 f35 LCS??
Guess what the best rifle is?

Ak47…a russian design. Make crap weapons my ass.

Your trolling is infantile at best, evil at worst.

Whatever we know what your job is by now…its pretty clear.

Ever feel like your job is circling the drain???

Free man

As in the past, the Syrian air defense fired missiles long after the Israeli operation ended.
The Syrian army is making too many mistakes.

Joe Kerr

So tweets the IDF, with you providing a relay.

Free man

This is the sad reality.
The Syrians are using technology from the 1960s to fight the most advanced technology today.
They fail to identify their targets, so they indiscriminately fire rockets. In the past they managed to knock down an Israeli F-16, now this Russian plane.

Joe Kerr

Yeah, and with all its 1960s tech it’s still winning the war against the Israeli supported head-loppers.

Free man

They win the war against the jihadists only thanks to Russian help.
But unfortunately, Syria is incapable of dealing with a state army with Israel’s capabilities.

Joe Kerr

Ha, is that why Israel’s U.S. cheer squad bit its butt after the great IDF failed against Hezbollah? Heck, they were even expecting an advance into Syria and were shocked when IDF troops crawled back crying like babes. Shooting women and children (preferably in the back) is now the limit of its skills.

Free man

How does what you write change the fact that the poor Syrians have an air defense system from the 1960s, and Israel has the most advanced weapons in the world?
Or is it the most intelligent answer you could think about .

paolinks

Capabilities? Israelis got their asses handed to them by Hezbollah in 2006. They are only good at killing palestinian children or hiding in the shadow of an IL-20.

These people are cowards, no more no less. One of their precious F-35 has been shoot down by S-200 last year.

Free man

It’s obvious you have no idea what you’re talking about.

paolinks

yeah yeah blah blah blah the jews where screaming like pussies under Hezbollah’s punches

Concrete Mike

Thats BS, all israel does is take pot shots from time to time. It works to get motor mouths like you going, but in the real world, these pot shots mean nothing and accomplish nothing.

I feel bad for the russians that got shot down, your sacrifice will not be in vain, no matter what the fucking trolls say.

Free man

Putin does not seem to be like you. I wonder why.

telemetrie

Hah. Ok, next time russian AEW&C aircraft will fly protected by SU35 fighter jets and they will just keep killing any Israel fighters on spot and then express “sorrow” to Israell until 15 F-16 units will be shot down.
I’d give it a green light.

Zionism = EVIL

Russian incompetence is amazing. Sending hundreds to their death in Syria without air cover. The US killed over 200 Wagner group Russian mercenaries at Dier Azzor and Russia did nothing. Russia is being humiliated worse than Arabs are daily. What country can have any respect for Russia that can not even defend its servicemen?

1691

14, not 200.

Zionism = EVIL

Well the Jews have gone one better then and killed 15 Russians in one go. The Turks only killed one Russian pilot.

Hind Abyad

It says 20 killed

Merijn

Nuclear War is the other Option….

Zionism = EVIL

Bring it on and find out.

Empire's Frontiers

The only assholes clamoring for open war are:

A) not able to attract female company
B) enjoy the flavor of dirt and grass
C) haven’t learned to shoot
D) All the above

George King

You left out female goats…….

Empire's Frontiers

You didn’t.
Oddly.

d'Artagnan

Does not look like Russia will take any action as Putin has already downplayed the incident as a “tragic mistake”.

George King

“tragic mistake” indeed on the part of Israel!

The Farney Fontenoy

Israel shot down a Russian spy plane & Putin has backed down with the whole world watching, he looks exactly like the Israeli lapdog he is, weak & useless.
The war in Syria has been lost purely because Putin refuses to stand his ground with Israel. Assad senior is rolling in his grave, he would be shocked by the gutlessness of New Russia.

Justin

Mercs are acceptable deaths! That why they use mercs! Expendable and also Plausible deniability when able to do so. Otherwise, ud just use regular troops RIGHT?

As for shooting down Russian or US aircraft! This is a MASSIVE no, no! Hence the statement “deep sorrow”! Russia fully backs Syria and Israel is fully against Syria! Do u ever hear Israel “express sorrow” for syrian forces or civilians they kill??? NO! If they killed Assad, would they still “Express sorrow”?? Hell NO!!

Israel will lick Russian ass and they will hide behind US protection! But u can be damn sure if a US plane was downed, retaliation would take place (Russian instigator or not).

Russia will be pressured to respond but that might be exactly what Israel wants! Turn this thing into a global war rather than a civil or regional war! (there may well be dark reasons for israel to do this in relation to US midterm elections. a story to explain another time). Concessions for israel are gone now. Israel will now be targeted by russian systems. thats what will happen. in other words a no fly zone for israel from now on.

its a win for russia. wait and see.

Merijn

Burn IsraHell…

zman

Still spewing the same old Zionist crap,eh? 200 Russians! Your continuous flow of tripe is proof that the Zionists are still trying to start a major conflict. Careful, you might get your wish, then you’ll have no hovel to return to.

Rob

For this attack Israel have done how much home work that how to design this attack on Syria that Syrian ADM Systems shot down the Russian surveillance airplane. Russia have lost their own IL-20 for giving corridor to Israeli jets to attack on Syrian nation.

zman

Unfortunately, you are correct. Giving Israel an inch only results in them stealing a mile.

as

Any uninvited unannounced flyers that fly aggressively towards Russian forces position to be intercepted by their fighter
But based on VV Putin languages they’re again on restraint. It will happen again just like Turkey failing to keep their responsibility again in idlib.

Lena Jones

“The israelis warned the Russians a mere minute before impact – they could have given a 3-4 minute warning but they didn’t – I smell a rat” – so said an expert on RT-streaming just now.

Zionism = EVIL

Were the Russians blind? even a Cessna’s radar can pick up 4 F-16 crawling up its arse.

Lena Jones

Alright dear, we know you’re a Russiaphobe and WE DON’T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT IT!

Zionism = EVIL

Just the TRUTH hurts. Russian flying dishwasher’s deserve to be shot out of the sky by 1980’s vintage US aircraft. This is hilarious.

You can call me Al

Just shut up a minute, you gobby twat.

Concrete Mike

Quiet you fucking shill. You have lies enough for today….

You can call me Al

Lena, dont shout at the messenger here, but whilst he really pisses me off, on this point he does sort of have a point. I thing (apart from the result) that there is something we do not know / understand.

Lena Jones

It’s not the message that bothers, it’s the single-minded psychosis that it’s wrapped in.

zman

Not really. He spouts complete BS (cessna radar picks up F-16 from behind). His crap pushes the BS that they did not know they were there. They did know, they were using the same tactics they always use, whether it is an attack run or mere surveillance. The rule was that they announce their intentions, the quid pro quo in force. They waited until the last second, which was way too late. His inane crap about Russian aircraft is tiring, as is his incessant tendency to lie. Then to really get shit started, he claims to be a Turd, just to start more shit. This is the trademark of the Israeli BS Brigade. If the Israelis were not trying for this type of incident, they would not be using large aircraft, including airliners, for cover. What is a miracle is that a civilian airliner has not been downed before this, due to the chickenshit tactics of the ISIS air force.

Davki

Israel has no right to attack a sovereign country.full stop. All casualties are their full and sole responsibility and crime.

Zionism = EVIL

Dude, the Zionists have attacked Syria over 200 times with full Russian treacherous collusion, it is just this time that the Zionists whacked the dumb incompetent Ruskies and killed 15 in one go. Russia will do nothing and more Russians will die.

Eze Enwereuzor

Stop repeating lies.

Free man

You seem to be the only one glad that Russian soldiers were killed.
You do not sound pro America / Israel.
Are you an Iranian who supports the mullahs regime?

Zionism = EVIL

I am Turkish and don’t like Russians. Istanbul is full of Natasha prostitutes.

Lena Jones

He says with thick israeli accent.

Zionism = EVIL

Shalom meshugennah :)

Bob

Nah – more likely you are from way further south – and quite possibly seated in an IDF computer room, where all the obese and wimpy recruits serve out their mandatory time on keyboards.

as

Been busted a lot :)
In particular where he assigned blame of dead gazan civilian to anything but Zionist despite his name.
He’s the lower paid one.

Lena Jones

So the jew jet illegally entered Syria skies and purposely hid behind the Russian jet: using it thus as a shield during a dog-fight with the Syrian air force.

That’s the story in a nutshell.

And this is why Russia is blaming israel, not Syria. “… a very irresponsible act by the israelis… and we reserve the right to respond”, said a stern-looking Russian General on RT earlier.

Zionism = EVIL

No dog fight, the Syrians fired some S-200 which is a 1960’s era SA-2 with no homing mechanism. The Russian decoration piece S-400 remained as pot plants :)

Lena Jones

You don’t know shit cuz what I’m talking about isn’t included in your hasbara memo, little cog.

What I’m citing is GLOBAL NEWS – what you’re citing is turdy hasbara, whether you know it or not (so out there you are!)!

What you say about Russian weapons is total FAKE NEWS – and even if it were true, then them ‘arcane’ Russian weapons can blow the fuck outta yer arse in a New York second! Fucking Rossiaphobic obsessive-compulsive Clinton spawn!

Daniel Miller

“No dog fight, the Syrians fired some S-200 which is a 1960’s era SA-2 with no homing mechanism”….then how did it hit the Il-20 you moron…

Zionism = EVIL

Even a slingshot can down a Russian 1950’s turbo prop Moshe.

Daniel Miller

Oh yea? Then try it m8 :)

Free man

There was no “a dog-fight”.
There was only a Syrian panic.

Zionism = EVIL

and Russian cowardice. If US bombs Russia, the idiot Putin will thank his “PARTNERS”.

Lena Jones

Hasbara IS FAKE NEWS! You’re citing Bibi’s fucking bad excuse – which the Russians aren’t buying lol!

Free man

The poor Syrians use technology from the 1960s to fight advanced Israeli technology. And you expect “a dog-fight”.
Be realistic.

Zionism = EVIL

Russian use 1950’s dishwashers with metal fatigue wings and call them Sukhois, I kid you not :) and they think they can fight US F-35, this is a riot.

Daniel Miller

Your almost as much of a idiot when it comes to talking about military tech as the other moron.

Lena Jones

Zionism=evil and Free man are today’s hasbara bots. Misinformation is their name, shekels is their game.

Free man

I am sorry for the Russian soldiers who were killed in vain. And there is no reason why more Russian soldiers should die.
That’s why I think Russia needs to find a non-military solution.
On the other hand, the Israelis should have expected such an event to happen in a region as dense as the Syrian coast. And they should do more than express sorrow.

Zionism = EVIL

Yes Israelis and Russians need a group hug.

Free man

You hate them both and would like to see them fighting each other. Maybe it’s in Turkey’s interest but it does not seem to be in their interest.

Zionism = EVIL

To be honest Zionism is a cancer for the world and if anyone needs nuking they do. The world is fed up of the fake Jew parasites.

Lena Jones

The Syrians have already downed several israeli jets with their “1960’s tec”, you stupid, arrogant git! It’s YOU who needs realism/FACTS: Russia says during a dog-fight between the israelis and the Syrians, the israelis hid behind a Russia jet- the coward israelis used the Russian jet as a ‘human/aerial shield’, causing the deaths of 16 Russian airmen. This is why the Russians are blaming the israelis. If you don’t like this version, go take it up with the Russians.

Free man

You confuse propoganda and reality.
“Dogfight” is a nickname for an aerial battle between fighter jets. The Syrian jets can not deal with Israeli jets as the Syrian air defense system is incapable of dealing with the Israeli army. It’s a sad fact.
The fact that you are blind to reality and call me derogatory names does not make your argument stronger.

Lena Jones

Oh shut it down already you passive-aggressive twat! Israel’s jet was ‘fleeing the scene of the crime, chased by Syrian aerial response’ – semantics here are meaningless, especially nowadays when ANY form of aerial combat that has jets striking at or fleeing from aerial attacks is referred to as a ‘dogfight’, not just head-to-head combat between two jets! Despite israel’s air superiority, it is compromise-able/down-able, as evidenced by the downing of israeli jets by both the Syrian and the Lebanese hezbollah at various times. Again, it’s YOU who needs to get real, mister! The myth of israel’s invincibility was shattered by the hezb in their 2006 victory. Any military strategist worth their salt will remind you that it’s not the size of the dog in the fight that matters, it’s the size of the fight in the dog. Many a bigger armies have been defeated by smaller ones throughout history. David and Goliath and all that.

Free man

I wrote about the inferior Syrian technology.
You seem to be arguing only for the sake of arguing.
Have a successful life in the virtual reality that you live in.

Lena Jones

Again, you’re pompously self-appointing yourself as the master and purveyor of ‘realism’! That’s why you’re getting another gritty ‘fuck off’ from me.

Free man

You are stupid and rude.
Bad combination.

Lena Jones

You just love using the word “stupid”, don’t you? Makes you feel good and snooty, right? Truth is: you’re vexed cuz I’ve been running circles around your scumbag-dimwit brain. And Oh, I’d rather be “rude” than be a fucking arrogant asshole like you.

Free man

Bad combination.

Concrete Mike

Syrian air defence are competent, why do you think israel always fire their missiles from lebanese airspace? This indicates that the syrians do know what they are doing.

It may be you that is blind to reality buddy.

Free man

For the sake of their personal safety and that of their relatives, I hope they do not know what they are doing.
Because if the Russians find out that they have deliberately shot down their plane, they and their relatives will not be so safe

Ma_Laoshi

There is not quite a “Russian” position at the moment: Shoigu is saying one thing, Putin another; interesting.

Lena Jones

Putin will be remembered by history as the ‘Great De-escalator’.

Lena Jones

I think it’s safe to say that most of the world would like Russia to beat the bejusus outta israel – or at least kill 16 jewish airmen as redress – an eye for an eye and all that, if we’re to go by jew laws.

Zionism = EVIL

Try that and Moscow will look like Aleppo then.

Lena Jones

And you think tel aviv or DC will survive if Moscow was jammed up like that? LOL! Dream away, hate away at the victim – just like a jew does…

You can call me Al

hahahahaha, try it yiddo.

Promitheas Apollonious

or turn the other cheek, according to what russia, done up to now.

Ilya Grushevskiy

Eye for an eye in Jewish law btw, was always and is always only a direct monetary compensation.. not that that’s much better! (From a pedant)

Ricky Miller

Attacking another country because of the manufacture and sharing of defense material with a third party does not constitute an attack against Israel. No one in Syria or Lebanon is currently engaged in using weapons against Israel. So, killing people on the ground, attacking civilian objects and shutting down the power reaches the level of aggressive war as defined by the Nuremberg Tribunal. But Russia is also responsible for the deaths of it’s own citizens here. One does not deploy forces to a country to help said country fend off an ongoing assault but also then allow any other tom, dick or harry to fly into the joint operating area and attack forces aligned with you, most namely the forces of the state being assaulted. It’s seen as weak and accommodating and this time led to missiles being launched and flying right around two major Russian defense bases. In a properly planned military operation the aircraft of other military powers should not be red carpeted right into the theatre and all up in your business. They should be intercepted and warned off or fired at from a distance. Vladimir Putin’s accommodating stance to Israeli and Western missile strikes has led to fifteen Russians being recklessly killed. They will never call loved ones again, have lunch, enjoy a KHL season or see a movie. President Putin gets to do all of those things. It’s military negligence and self imposed harm. Who wants to fight for Russia if Russia won’t fight for them?

Zionism = EVIL

Exactly, everyone is killing Russians, the Jews, US, UK, French and even the headchoppers and Turks. Putin is always thanking his western “partners” while his daughters hoard billions in Dutch and UK banks. Isn’t Russia a hoot?

Ricky Miller

Please, stay off my side. Constructive criticism interests me, your Russian baiting hate talk is burdensome and tired.

Zionism = EVIL

What baiting, the Russians are dumbasses who over-stepped their capability and intervened in Syria. The idiot Putin who is basically numbnuts first collaborated with Nutter Yahoo and let the Zionists attack Syria at will, then the Turks shot down Russian flying dishwasher and Putin groveled at Erogan’s feet, thems the facts kiddo. Ruskies are dumb cowards.

Daniel Miller

actually Russia saved erdogas’s ass and he was so thankful he payed full price for the SU24 and he payed the familiy of the dead and alive pilot… :)

Zionism = EVIL

and you think the Zionists will send checks to the dead Russian families in US taxpayers Shekels :)

Daniel Miller

oh yea they will and they will most likely pay full price for the aircraft too since Israel dosent wanna go on Russia’s bad side and vice versa.
I dont think your little head can comprehend that 40% of the Jewish population in Israel is ethnecly Russian ;)

George King

Russia and Putin called for all Russians and students studying abroad to return to its soil as a statement awhile back so they could protect them. There was a reason for this and you may see this happening in large numbers now, we will see and note.

Concrete Mike

russia would respond everytime some idf soldier takes a shit in the golan?? Is that what you want??

Morron

zman

I just call it what it is…BULLSHIT.

Empire's Frontiers

In less than 100 years Hitler will have been rewritten as a hero.

True or not.

schiamachy

Not true. He will however be likened to Netanyahu.

Merijn

JUST DIE VERMIN! FILTHY PARASITE! BURN ISRAHELL…

willyvandamme

Zionists are the most disgusting people on earth. Evil is a to nice word for them.

You can call me Al

Russia and Syria were warned:
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Now it is time, to knock Israel senseless.

Promitheas Apollonious

and whose going to do that? Because from the looks of it all are giving israel a pass, including the russians.

Zionism = EVIL

Putin with his dumb retarded Assberger face will come on TV and call Israel his partner and say it was all a mistake.

Daniel Miller

well yea no shit Russia has good relations with Israel its Syria who shot the Il-20 down not IAF :)

Zionism = EVIL

Exactly. It is dumb Ayrabs and their Russian dishwashers that have no IFF and shoot down propeller planes. US taxpayers are getting their money’s worth :)

Daniel Miller

hey its not Israels or Russia’s fault they dont have money to by new IFF instruments m8

Sinbad2

Would IFF have helped on the terminal stage of the rockets flight?
I thought once they got close, the missile just headed for the closest target.
The missile should never have been fired whilst friendly’s were in the area.

Daniel Miller

Well if the missile is modern no even if its close it will even avoid freandly aircraft but a missile like the old S-200 cant the computer in the missile is far to obsolete to do that.

paolinks

Do you trust this version of the facts? Come on russians are trying to downplay the incident, for now. They even hinted at a french ship. Why? Because they know 100% that the cowardly frogs shoot down their plane.

However Putin is walking on a tight rope. Russians will not take this shit for much longer.

as

Perhaps. Based on MoD publication the il20 on descent in landing approach unaware low flying f16 moving towards their sides and were hit intercepting missile.

paolinks

Yes. I see people here saying that russian gear hasn’t IFF hardware. Do they think it is simple for a missile to distinguish between two contradictory signals really close to each other?

The israelis have behaved as the cowards they always are, shielding themselves under the shadow of a landing plane. Maybe they thought the IFF would be able to recognize the IL-20 and autodestroy the missile. Who knows.

Or maybe the israelis are not at fault and the frogs are the ones who shoot down the IL-20.

Albert Pike

USSR/Russia did have IFF since 1963, but with the coming down of the wall they where fully compromised. They have a new one, at least since 2014:
https://www.mil-airfields.de/equipment/soviet-russian-iff-kremnij-parol.htm
https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/defence-helicopter/russia-design-new-iff-system/
This one her explains it more, how it works with changeable codes, which your enemy should not have. But then again, it’s Israel – they might have the changed codes too:
http://www.dean-boys.com/extras/iff/iffqa.html
So yes – IFF might be useless, if the attacker has your codes – but if it was funktioning, then IFF can distinguish, even between two, or three, or what ever signals, very, very close to each other…

Ronald

Nice to see I’m not the only one thinking the French are responsible.

Sinbad2

If the French were responsible, Israel would not have apologized.

Ronald

A good point, protecting the French is a stretch granted.

skinner15

They could have been there to muddy the waters, and take some of the flak, along with the innocent Syrians.
1.5 million Israelis hold Russian citizenship, and Israeli government have strong ties with Putin.

I think NATO deliberately targeted this aircraft, as a message to the Russian leadership. They used the Syrian AA as a possible get out for all sides, but the attacks by Israel were already taking place close to Russian forces at their air and sea base. That alone is an escalation by Israel.

NATO, or FUKUS in reality, have struck at Russia, and the Russian silence is embarrassing.

Roman Filipov will be turning in his grave at this betrayal of Russian servicemen.

Sinbad2

Americans are about to pay a lot more taxes, will you still be getting the best potholed roads in the world?

Sinbad2

Putin will refer to America as his partner, 10 seconds before his nukes lay the USA waste.
You just don’t understand the subtlety’s of Putin speech.

You can call me Al

Revenge is best served cold.

Zionism = EVIL

with a gallon of vodka.

You can call me Al

Damn right.

Promitheas Apollonious

depending on the occasion sometimes this is true sometimes is been told by people who is nothing they can do and with this saying trying to safe face.

Concrete Mike

Why shoot a plane down. Theres lots of mossad operatives running around. Kill them. Nice quiet payback.

Sinbad2

Exactly, don’t get angry, get even.

skinner15

Don’t get even, get ahead.

Joe

You just have to laugh at these Israelis.

They ate always right when they are the ones attacking others without provocation.

Anyhow the the Russians will quickly forgive
the Israelis for sure.

Let’s see another Russian planes get shot down again as usual. It seems only Russian planes get shot down in Syria …. useless.

Zionism = EVIL

Yep, the Ruskies are dumb cowards and will get more people killed. It is time to pull out of Syria and let the headchoppers head to Europe. This is too hilarious even to comment. Time to take a nap.

Blaine

Meanwhile Turkey digs in with Putin blessings. On all sides the lines are hardening and with it jihadi elements have reinforced safe havens.

This program is TARFU heading for FUBAR if Russia cannot get some respect for its area of operations. Enough already, get s300 at least into Assad’s hands. Use the Pantsir to defend the s300s instead of giving them the whole area to cover – that’s not what they’re made to do and the 200s aren’t getting it done.

Israel wants Iran out of Syria they need to stop supporting jihadis and ordering US to do the same. They still intend to topple Assad and dismantle the country and won’t stop until the price is too high.

Manuel Flores Escobar

Putin saying it was a chain of tragic circunstance while Russian military are saying that israel uses il-20 to cover the attack….something go wrong between military staff and president…

The Farney Fontenoy

Putin just issued a statement, not only not condemning-but defending Israel.
Israel’s puppet to the core, Putin is a liar & fooled a lot of people into thinking he was his own man.
Russia has 6 more years with this traitor in charge, God help Syria & God help Russia, because Putin won’t.

Judge_Death

Well it seems Putin was waiting this to end the incident…lets calm and return to normality..in a few days zionist war planes and their pals will attack again over the russian heads

John Brown

Now Syria will get the S-300 and S-400 and Putin can move against the remaining racist supremacist Jewish oligarchs in Russia.

This deal with Erdogan is better than I thought, as the Russian army will enter Idlib in large numbers escorted by the Turkish army without even having ot fight any battles at all. This is why Israel downed the Russian military transport plane to try to wreck this deal which is huge victory for Syria.

It also helps Russia and Syria by Erdogan is giving them a shield to free the rural areas of Latakia Idlib and Homs which they would have to do first any way. The Oct 15 deadline gives the Russians plenty of time to bomb the crap out of the militants. The buffer zone will also be territory Syria won’t have to fight for as the Israeli terrorists will have to pull back and Russia has more time to greatly strengthen Syrian air defenses. The fact that Israel attacked today in Latakia in a temper tantrum proves this was a good deal to make for Syria. If the militants don’t cooperate, they get hammered anyway. Nothing to lose. A very smart move by Putin again as well as Erdogan. I am sure China is helping financially by helping Turkey out with USSA Israeli sanctions and to get out from under the IMF

Ma_Laoshi

Putin made a deal–with Erdogan, who is just going to keep it?! Erdy broke the previous deal, which entailed reining in HTS in Idlib. And this was at a time when Russia looked as if it was at least trying. With Russia in retreat mode, and the full force of the US Navy off the coast, Erdogan just told Putin what the latter wanted to hear. With the liberation of Idlib called off, Russia has no way of enforcing what happens there. Already, jihadist formations are being fortified and re-armed. If Turkey and the US are smart (not a given), they’ll use these developments to kiss and make up; in that case, how long before US special forces show up? Then Syria can say bye-bye to Idlib forever, and Aleppo will permanently remain in the cross-hairs of the moderates.

Ronald

Putin’s deal as I understand it was for joint Russian and Turkish troops to enforce the clearing of the demilitarized zone. So the jihadists unlikely to comply will be Al Qaeda. Erdogan has the paychecks of his TIP jihadists to enforce compliance.
Therefore effectively separating the forces.
Qaeda will be facing Russian and Turkish forces and will be cleared or moved back.
Erdogan may not be brilliant, but I doubt he is dumb enough to “kiss and make up” with the US, they would have him “gone” in a heartbeat.
My guess is that zone will open the M5 hi-way, a big plus.

Ma_Laoshi

We will see of course, but I just can’t share your optimism here. At the hour of truth, Turkey; supports HTS. And which Russian troops? They can muster some mil police to patrol an area that’s already liberated, but the serious ground force on their side is the SAA only. With Russia making such fools of themselves, I’m afraid that any of its troops entering Idlib will quickly become IED and sniper fodder.

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