Israeli Forces Step Up Attacks On Syrian Army Near Gholan Heights, Destroy 3 Artillery Cannons

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Israeli Forces Step Up Attacks On Syrian Army Near Gholan Heights, Destroy 3 Artillery Cannons

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On October 5, the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) destroyed 3 artillery cannons belonging to the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) in the area near the Gholan Heights in southern Syria.

The IDF claimed in an official statement that the attack was a response to “5 projectiles” launched at the Israeli-held part of the heights from Syria.

The IDF added that “any future occurrences will force the IDF to intensify its response.”

On October 19, the IDF usesd a Spike missile to destory a SAA artillery piece in the  same area. The attack was also justified by a “projectile” that allegedly landed in the Gholan Heights.

According to Syrian experts, the IDF is stepping up its attacks against the SAA in southern Syria as govenrment forces achieve more successes in the battle against Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (formerly Jabhat al-Nusra, the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda) and its allies in the area. Earlier this week, government forces attacked terrorists near Beit Jinn town.

However, it’s interesting to note that the IDF has not used its warplanes to attack the SAA in southern Syria since the Syrian missile launch at Israeli warplanes at the Syrian-Lebanese border.

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  • Bru

    Israel sovereignty on Syrian territory ! (Golan, invaded and occupied by the zionist colonial regime).

    • Kawa Asinger

      Why isn’t Russia fighting Israel? I mean, they’re an ally, right? Just asking?

      • Real Anti-Racist Action

        Jews know full well that the Goyims up norther (Russians) are there enemies.
        Sadly Russians do not know that Ashkenazi-Jews are their enemy.
        So one side knows, and in this instance the Goyim don’t know.

        • Kawa Asinger

          I beg to differ. The Russians are orthodox Christians, and Christians never liked Jews. Your argument is moot. Ashkenazi Jews are descendants of the Jews who settled along the Rhine river., and mixed in with the local population.

          • Tudor Miron

            “Ashkenazi Jews are descendants of the Jews who settled along the Rhine river.”(c) which were expelled from Khazarian Kaganat (a parazitic entity that in many ways is similar to Israel that we know now) Khazarian Kaganat was destroyed in 965 by guess who? Ashkenazi remember who ended their parazitic reign back than.

            PS: May be that’s a simple explanation of SolomonKrupachek’s hatred towards all Russian?

          • Kawa Asinger

            ??? …ok. So we should be killing each other over things that our ancestors did?

          • Tudor Miron

            Sviatoslav destroyed Khasarian Kaganat not because he “didn’t like” Khasarians or their religion. But because it was absolutely parasitic “state” that was terrorising areas around it.
            Talmudic Jeudaism doesn’t teach how to fight in open field. It teaches to enslave Goyims with usury, lies and twisting ideology (like Christianity is actually an export version of Jeudaism, where export means “For goyim use”.) That is why your phrase “we should be killing each other over things that our ancestors did?” sounds strange. IDF is good in fighting teens with cold weapons and extremely good at displacing unarmed civilians. All while keep playing victims :) Who is it “we” that “should be killing each other over things that our ancestors did?”(c)
            You asked (above) why isn’t Russia fighting Israel. Than you post something that sounds contrary – which is it?

          • Kawa Asinger

            Don’t worry. It wasn’t a question. But anyways, thanks for the history lesson. It doesn’t sound strange, unless you want to blame a child for the crimes of his father. It sounds sane. Like I said, two-state solution. But tell that to the leaders.

          • Brother Ma

            No they are not.they are mainly descendants of khazar turks who were judaized and who married into local population. Real jewish dna is in sephardi jews not askenazi.

          • Kawa Asinger

            Refer to my below comments.

          • dutchnational

            And guess what : Majority of Israeli jews are sephardi jews.

          • Brother Ma

            Thats news to me. Maybe a very slight majority,as until recently most israelis were askenazi.when did sephardi start to tip the scale?

            P.s.my guess. You are a sephardi jew as well.

          • dutchnational

            Wrong guess : I am catholic.

            As for what percentage, I do not exactly know. Somewhere between between 50 and 60% are the guesstimates. Shephardic and Mizrahi jews are the jews originally from Iberia and other muslim lands.

          • Omega

            There are about 6.4M Jews in Israel. 1.4M of whom are Sephardic. How is it the “majority”?

            ps – you wouldn’t be one of those white European who believes to descend form one of of the “lost tribes” by any chance?

        • John Whitehot

          it doesn’t really matter who the enemy is.

          what matters is to defend your country and people.

        • Uri

          Nice name for a Nazi !! LOL

      • Tudor Miron

        May I ask – are you Suryan?

        • Kawa Asinger

          What the hell is Suryan?

          • Tudor Miron

            I’m sorry, Surya is kind of Russian way to write Syria using English letters. This way if not for first letter (S) than it will be written in Russian.

          • Kawa Asinger

            Then write Syria, because clearly I wasn’t writing in Russian. No I am not. I’m Australian.

          • George King

            OK, US zionist vassal. Are you jewish? Ashkenazi jews by dna proof not from ME but robber/mercenary clan. This is not new information and was researched by jews themselves. The common Jew is not a zionist and are just as screwed as are every one else regardless.

            There is a battle of “Sinners and Saints” (metaphor) and as George Carlin says “its a big club and you ain’t in it”.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5dBZDSSky0

          • Kawa Asinger

            Oh, nice. I like George Carlin. But hey, anyone who doesn’t agree with you is a jewish zionist US vassal. Whatever name you can come up with that will help you sleep at night. No I’m not Jewish.

            http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-ashkenazi-jews-dna-diseases-20140909-story.html

            http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/37821/title/Genetic-Roots-of-the-Ashkenazi-Jews/

            The Islamic Caliphate was also a load of shit that spread and arabised most of the arab world today, but they lay claim to everyone else’s ancestral lands that they never lived in or originated from. So you are pretty biased.

          • Brother Ma

            Excellent read,Kawa. However, these studies are of mitochondrial Dna.they are from mother. They do not take into account where the father came from.so still consistent with judaized khazar turk on fathers side like falashas of ethiopia having jewish paternal ancestors.

            Ashkenaz in hebrew also means turkish ,so the name “german” northern and eastern european jews contains a hint of where they originally came from.

          • Kawa Asinger

            Maybe you can give me some material to read. Didn’t know that.

          • Brother Ma

            Kawa.i was commenting from memory but i will copy you in next time i see something of value. I love these dna studies as well.

            Sad thing is we really are related to another . My mother, cousins,niece and daughter have blue eyes and i read somewhere that all blue eyed people in the world are descendants of one person who had a mutation in russian steppes five to eight thousand years ago.a blink of an eye in human history. The only reason it survived was that it happened in non sunny part of the world. If it was in tropics or desert ,it would have died out, as in long term,blue eyes give no natural evolutionary advantage in sunny climates.

          • Kawa Asinger

            The Europeans, and Kurds and Persians are descendants from those people who lived in the Caucasus. The Indo-Iranian > Indo-European >Proto-indo-european. I don’t look middle eastern at all. I have cousins that don’t look middle easter neither. I have a cousin who is redhead and has freckles. My grandfather from my mum’s side didn’t look middle eastern neither.

          • Brother Ma

            I know.but you did not tell me what religion your family was.that is fine ,you dont have to.

          • Kawa Asinger

            Like I have said so many times, my family’s religion will not tell you anything about me. What is with people and trying to prosecute and persecute on what their “family” or “father” believes or does.

          • dutchnational

            Aside from all of this, there is much “european” blood in the mid east, from the Romans, from germanic tribe in north Africa, celtic tribes in Galatia, from the Greeks, from the crusaders, from the three million russian and ukrainian slaves taken by turks over 4 centuries etc etc.

            Maybe we should forget all the sectarian BS. We are just people and who our ancesters were, that is interesting but should not be relevant to the way we as people interact.

          • George King

            When we don’t question the nature of mainstream propaganda and ask the questions why, we neither seek nor shall receive the understanding of truth. Then we remain subject to manipulation by those who may not have the peoples best interest at heart.

            The only question that really matters: Why? “Why have we not Known?”

            “When Einstein was offered the Israeli presidency, Israeli Prime Minister David Ben Gurion stated, “I’ve had to offer him the post because it was impossible not to, but if he accepts we are in for trouble.” In a letter written in the same year, Einstein compared the Zionists’ project with that of the Pilgrims, noting, “how tyrannical, intolerant and aggressive [they] became after a short while.”

            In Einstein’s last media interview, which ran in the New York Post a month before his death, he stated “We had great hopes for Israel at first. We thought it might be better than other nations, but it is no better.”

            https://www.opednews.com/articles/The-only-question-that-re-by-George-King-Co-existence_Death_Fascist_Israel-170410-906.html

          • Kawa Asinger

            I don’t watch mainstream media. I read, or research as much as I can.

          • Tudor Miron

            Let me write the way I do unless someone finds it offensive towards Syria? Anyone? If someone (like you for example) doesn’t understands what it means than I’m here to help.

            Australian? What exactly – Indogenous? Anglosaxonian? Jew? (You may be calling me rasist but that’s a simple question that helps understand your background.)

          • Kawa Asinger

            I didn’t call you racist. You just made that nonsense. Why is there always a fucking JEW in there. I’m Australian, plain and simple. We aren’t racist mate.

          • Tudor Miron

            Very good, than please answer my question “Australian? What exactly – Indogenous? Anglosaxonian? Jew? Other?” so I can better understand your background.

          • Kawa Asinger

            My ethnicity will not tell you anything about my believes. I don’t know why you make such a connection. Sounds pretty racist to me. The name says it, Kawa Asinger. I’m Kurdish.

          • Rakean Jaya

            This is ‘Very highly’ a lie. Judging from your comments and respond-comment, Tudor and George was right with their intuitions.

          • Kawa Asinger

            Your judgement is false. Next time critique yourself before you critique others. And what were they right about? The problem with people like you is that you can’t accept people with differing opinions and viewpoints. You live in a little snowflake bubbly world of safe space. Pfff. Believe whatever you want, guess it will help you sleep better at night.

          • dutchnational

            It is completely irrelevant what you are. What is important here is what you say, the arguments used. Not what color, religion, gender or whatever.

            Do not let yourself be put in a corner where you do not want to be.

            That is why I am a dutchnational, no use discussing my background as I do not to others.

          • Why do you make such a problem because Tudor Miron call Syrians the way he likes. What if I call them Sirios (in my languege) Is that a problem too?

          • Kawa Asinger

            What problem? I don’t speak Russian, or your language. So how the hell would I understand you, if you don’t tell me what it means. Referring to nationalities in other languages other than a language I understand, and expecting me to understand is ignorance on your behalf.

          • My language is not English, so if I start taking issue on how other people call others, then this is the way arguments start. What do I care how somebody calls others in terms of their nationalities or ethnicities as long as they are not offensive?

          • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

            He is a Khazar Goyim

          • Kawa Asinger

            You are racist, period. Keep making up nonsense. Bring your evidence.

          • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

            You claim to be Kurdish there is no racism just genetic fact. The Khazar created the Kurds to be there Golem.

  • MD Ranix

    fear has made the illegitimate entity lunatics …. sleepless nights as truth/reality comes knocking at these oppressors’ doors

    • Kawa Asinger

      How so?

    • Freespirit

      Missiles by Syria should be DIRECTED at Tel Aviv. If Syria is going to do it., DO IT RIGHT or don’t do it, at all .The world is waiting for LEADERSHIP –

      The 50 YEAR OLD LIE which is moving us to SLAVERY , if not World DESTRUCTION with the inevitable “Blowbackl”: https://zionistreport.com/2017/10/commentary-fifty-years-fifty-lies/

      • Joe

        My opinion is that it is not wise at this moment to take on Israel when he is on the verge of total victory with ISIS completely defeated.

        THEN, he can take on both SDF and Israel as leader of Syria.

        Patience, like Putin always did , is the way. It is also the ways of China…. patience.

        • Freespirit

          Thanks for your input Joe

      • Lex

        A wise general wins wars one at a time – Syria first. Remember, this whole affair is drawing the regional nations together – Iraq, Iran, Syria, Turkey and Lebanon have not worked together since the 70s at least. The shitbags in Israel are seriously worried – don’t doubt old uncle Putin.

        • Freespirit

          Time will tell

  • as

    We should spread the fact that they don’t use warplanes. It will be interesting if they try to cover up further by bluffing with their airplanes. IDF is like Trump.

    • Bru

      Their (paid by US-taxes) airforce is too scared of Syrian birds as they hit a F-35 last week…

      • Kawa Asinger

        I wouldn’t underestimate Israel’s strength with useless assumptions. Remember this is the same Israel that pounded the daylights out of the Arab in a six day war. Israel has become stronger, while the Arabs have become significantly weaker. Russia will not go to war with Israel over Syria, Vladimir Putin has made this very clear. They are not there for Assad, just like they weren’t there for Gaddafi. Russia will not attack unless it is provoked. Even if Israel carries out attacks against SAA, it will be up to the SAA to defend themselves, Russian wouldn’t want their children to die fighting someone else’s war. And lately there have been quite a lot of communication between Russia and Israel, maybe talks on securing their respective interests in Syria Just like how Russia allowed Turkey to waltz into Idlib with the aid of HTS.

        • as

          Israel has the edge in weaponry and funds yes but the days they reign in domination is numbered as more country in the middle east invested in ballistic missiles and air defense. Their major backers too will lost it’s fund to keep going in the near future.

          • Kawa Asinger

            Israel is superior in weaponry and training. And Israel is capable as it has shown, to defend itself. If all those neighbours attack Israel, the US and its allies will come to its aid. Russia will stay out, at best it will sell weapons to those idiotic Arab nations. Russia will not do anything, trust me it won’t.

          • Manuel Flores Escobar

            Israel was defeated in 2006..when israel lose more than 100 soldiers ..they use to left battle ground!..that was happen twice in Lebanon!.. once that sunni terrorist have been defeated in Syria…SAA has free hands in a war vs israel!

          • Kawa Asinger

            Israel wasn’t defeated according to your argument. Israel lost 100 soldiers, Hezbullah over 1000. I don’t think so. SAA will not go to war. Syria is useless and weak, don’t come here and attribute Russia’s hard work to the pathetic Syrians. If it wasn’t for Russia, Iran and Syria would’ve had their assess handed to them.

        • Brother Ma

          Yet you are quite happy having american and europeans children dying to fight someone elses war

          • Kawa Asinger

            Don’t take things personal, if you are too emotional to refute an argument.

        • Daniel Castro

          You’re wrong, Russia can’t give not a single step back anymore, Syria is the red line and this is quite clear, Putin acknowledged his mistake when he let Gadafi to the jackals, read what I’m writing here, after Syria russians will have to go to Lybia to bring back order there too, they will ahve to hunt these jihadists wherever they are.

          • Kawa Asinger

            Russia did mess up with Libya, that’s for sure. Syria is not the red line, Syria called upon Russia, Russia would’ve sat back and watched the show if Syria hadn’t called for help. I doubt Russia will go to Libya. But I guess we’ll see.

        • Omega

          There was no war in the “Six Day War”. IsraHell surprise attacked surrounding countries and then lied it was attacked. The lie was then spread all over the media by the US. I can elaborate if you wish.

          They did the very same in 1948: attacked the unarmed Palestinian population in the last three months of the Beitish Mandate, seizes 400+ Palestinian towns and villages (https://www.scribd.com/mobile/document/349720246/Palestinian-towns-and-villages-attacked-and-seized-by-Israel-in-1948) and then lied they were attacked pursuant of declaring independence.

          Your Almighty IsraHell couldn’t destroy Hezbollah in 2006 either. Despite planning the war as early as 2006 with the US and treacherous elements within the Lebanese government, it failed miserably. I can elaborate on this as well if you wish.

          • Kawa Asinger

            No one won the Lebanon war. But six day war though, they did defeat a number of Arab countries. All those countries couldn’t fight back against such a small country, which they outnumbered and outgunned. I am pretty sure, the Israelis have learnt from studying the Lebanon war. It was war regardless. Amassing troops and closing the straits of Tiran, so Israel carried out a preemptive strike. I would too if I saw troops amassing on my borders. Remember Nasser closed the Straits of Tiran to Israeli vessels.

          • Omega

            • The Staits of Tiran was closed legally.

            • Egypt did amass troops at its border. It resulted from Soviet intel informing Egypt that IsraHell was readying to attack Egypt. The intel was confirmed by the CIA.

            • IsraHell attacked the USS Liberty (despite identifying as a US ship nine hours) prior and attacked Syria’s Golan Heights the following morning.

            Nobody attacked IsraHell in 1967s IsraHell attacked and then lied it was attacked. Israeli officials admitted it was to steal/occupy more lands. This is today old news. You need to update yourself.

            Whether Israelis learnt or not is not the point. You boasted about IsraHell’s military capabilities, I put you where you belong: in the shit hole.

            I don’t see Israelis learning shit. They illegally invaded and occupied the south of Lebanon for twenty years and retreated like the cowards they’re are. Israeli military officials called it a “humiliating defeat”.

            In 2006, IsraHell, with its IAF, IDF and 15,000+ army reserve troops could not destroy Hezbollah with 3,000 troops.

            Attacking, shooting and killing unarmed civilians (Palestinians) for decades is one thing. Going after an organized and disciplined militia, another.

            May IsraHell burn.

          • dutchnational

            By international law blockading a port of a country amounts to a declaration of war. By closing the Straits, thereby blockading Eilath, Nasser declared war on Israel.

            There is no UN or international court decree that Israel started an illegal war in 1967.

          • Kawa Asinger

            Thanks for that.

      • TiredOfBsToo

        Syria definitely needs to invest more heavily in those birds. Syria and Lebanon should definitely also acquire some S400s and Pantsir systems to assist that terrorist loving state to stay within it’s own borders and stop making excuses to violate International Law.

    • Rob

      That is the reason that Israeli refugees does not want Irani forces near Golan Heights because then they cannot attack Syria.

      Israeli refugees do pee in their trousers when they see Irani army forces in Syria. I wish that Iran as soon as possible to become nuclear power.

  • Carol Davidek-Waller

    Israeli’s guilty conscience. They hope everyone will forget they stole the Golan Heights from Syria. They were used to attacking Syria at will. I think they’ll find those days are over. Syria has developed, with the help of their allies a formidable military machine.

    • Carlita Danger

      Lol @ “stole”

      • Omega

        It was indeed “stolen” or if you prefer attacked (breaking the cease-fire) and occupied the morning after they attacked the USS Liberty (despite identifying the ship as American nine hours prior).

        • C. Danger.

          *yawn*

          • Omega

            Facts nonetheless.

        • C. Danger.

          In what became the Six Day War, it was apparent that conflict between Israel and the Arab countries was a matter of when, not if. From a purely military perspective (and for Israel, a survival perspective as well,) Israel gained initiative. They chose when to begin rather than wait for it to happen. The Golan Heights (and for that matter, the Sinai) were a legitimate military objective.

          • Omega

            You are most certainly entitled to your opinion but you must know that, at the end of the day, it’s just that: your opinion. Only facts matter. You claim it was “apparent” – where is the evidence?

            In the last three months of the British Mandate in 1948, the Jews militias went on attacking the unarmed Palestinian population and then lied they were attacked. In the process, they seized 400+ Palestinians towns and villages: https://www.scribd.com/mobile/document/349720246/Palestinian-towns-and-villages-attacked-and-seized-by-Israel-in-1948 It didn’t happen in the heat of battle but was planned for a decade after the 1937 Peel Commission which envisioned a small piece of Palestine for the Jews and the rest to non-Jews. The reconnaissance “missions” to identify/locate targeted towns/villages all over apLestine attest of such reality. For months, the Palestinians had begged the surrounding Arab countries to help them but in vain. King Abdullah of Jordan had actually planned on invading Palestine to divided with to-be Israel. When the news of the Deir Yassin massacre leaked out, his cabinet urged him to intervene. On May 15th 1948, the Arab armies entered Palestine – not Israel – to restore peace. The Israelis squealed they were attacked pursuant ofndelxaring independence. To date, Israelis are unable to say which land granted to them by the UNSCOP was entered/attacked.

            The Jews repeated the feat in 1967: they surprise attacked and then lied they were attacked. The lie was accepted and spread by the US. While Egypt did close the Straits of Tiran legally and amassed troops at its border (following Soviet intel informing them that the Israelis were readying to attack (the intel was confirmed by the CIA)), it was Israel who attacked. The same went on with Syria: Israel attacked the USS Liberty and the following morning, attacked Syria to seize the Golan Heights.

            Israel has long claimed that they were attacked but the accounts/testimonies of Israeli officials showed a different reality. There was no threat from anyone, especially not the one of annihiliation. It was purely to steal/occupy more lands in Palestine (West Bank and Gaza), Egypt (Sinai (later returned after the US forced Israel) and Syria (Golan Heights).

            • Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin acknowledged that “In June 1967, we again had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.”

            • Yitzhak Rabin, who would also later become Prime Minister of Israel, admitted in 1968 that “I do not think Nasser wanted war. The two divisions he sent to the Sinai would not have been sufficient to launch an offensive war. He knew it and we knew it.”

            • Israelis have also acknowledged that their own rhetoric at the time about the “threat” of “annihilation” from the Arab states was pure propaganda.

            • General Chaim Herzog, commanding general and first military governor of the occupied West Bank following the war, admitted that “There was no danger of annihilation. Israeli headquarters never believed in this danger.”

            • General Ezer Weizman similarly said, “There was never a danger of extermination. This hypothesis had never been considered in any serious meeting.”

            • Chief of Staff Haim Bar-Lev acknowledged, “We were not threatened with genocide on the eve of the Six-Day War, and we had never thought of such possibility.”

            • Israeli Minister of Housing Mordechai Bentov has also acknowledged that “The entire story of the danger of extermination was invented in every detail, and exaggerated a posteriori to justify the annexation of new Arab territory.”

          • C. Danger.

            Thank you for the historic atmospherics, but my earlier input is not my own opinion. These are generally accepted within both the academic community, War colleges, and military professional journals. If you know anything about operational art, you should know that the factors of time, space, and force are primary considerations. If you are familiar with that region’s geography, those factors are critically important.

          • Omega

            I am familiar – born, raised and live in Lebanon.

            The very same – general consensus – can be read/heard about the 2006 Israel/Hezbollah war: that Israel waged a war on Hezbollah after it captured IDF soldiers; when in fact, diplomatic leaks and Olmert’s testimony to the Winograd Committee attest that Israel planned the war as early as January of 2006 (with the US and treacherous elements within the Lebanese governments) and that the orchestrated capture of IDF soldiers only served as casus belli.

            Point being: the “generally accepted within both the academic community, War colleges, and military professional journals“ are concocted, written and spread by those who instigate the conflicts, wars and invasions in the first place. The truth always comes out later – via declassified documents, investigations, etc.

            It’s worth nothing that in regards to Israel, and like the Gulf monarchies, everything it does geopolitically is dictated by their British creators/masters. I am sure you heard of Orde Wingate.

          • C. Danger.

            Well, right or wrong, history is written by victors, not the vanquished. Regarding the 2006 conflict, what parallel are you making to the 1967 war?

          • Omega

            I agree, it is written by the victors. Whether wrong or right is a matter of another devate.

            The parralel that whatever the mainstream media feed, people swallow.

          • C. Danger.

            Indeed, good point. Thanks.

  • Joe

    Terrorists country is what they are

    • Kawa Asinger

      All countries in the Middle East are artificial except for Israel. Syria, Iraq, Iran, Turkey, Jordan, Lebanon, and so on are all artificial entities left behind by the colonial powers. They were created to serve colonial interests not the people’s, Everyone needs to understand that.

      • as

        Even Israel is a colonial. They aren’t even there 100 years ago. Their citizens made up by immigrants.

        • Kawa Asinger

          No Israel was there by all sources. Even according to Islamic sources. They were referred to as Bani Israil – Children of Israel. The Prophet Muhammad never called Israel, Palestine, and the Qur’an never calls Israel Palestine. And Ard al-muqqadas is not Palestine, it is the holy land (Literally) – Jerusalem. The Prophet Muhammad never set foot in Israel or the Holy Land. The Paletinian Identity is a fake identity, reading muslim sources of old and Palestine is not recognised as an ethnicity; rather, it is referring to locality – a region. A jew who was born in the locality/region of Palestine would be called a Palestinian. Palestinian is not an ethnicity, so the Arabs need to stop lying.

          • Daniel Castro

            So what, Romans were there before Muhammad and they called it Palestine.

            Israel ceased to exist on the first century, modern israel is a spawn of USA and Soviet Union filled with khazar fake jews.

            What? You don’t like current middle east countries? I have a better proposal for you:

            Bring back Persia!

          • Kawa Asinger

            I was destroying the Islamic argument perspective. And Romans were calling it that to insult the Israelis. The Philistines were a different people from the modern Arab Palestinian. Before Romans called it Palestine it was Israel. That is all history. If we go all the way back, let everybody be nomads and never set up civilisation, or go back to living in caves. I didn’t think so. And Persia, is still better than the Caliphate, they were pretty democratic. I am talking about Achaemenid Empire. The Achaemenid Empire, was a Perso-Kurdic Empire. They gave people their right, and just collected taxes from their (you could say) semi-autonomous regions. But like I said, it is all history. I will never call for the annihilation of any people. 1948 There was a two state solution, Israel and Palestine, but the Arabs chose to declare war, and reject the solution.

          • Daniel Castro

            “Before Romans called it Palestine it was Israel.”

            And then Romans expeled all original jews from that land on the diaspora, and those jews went to europe and miscigenated with local population both in genes and culture, to the point they are in no way or form direct descendants of the original ones, and neither have a way to prove they are, all they have are religious arguments that have no value in modern world.

            Palestines live in palestine for thousands of years, khazar fake jews are just barbarian invaders. Palestine belonged to the English Empire before the creation of Israel, it was populated by the palestines, and it was called palestine.

            Israel is a 20th century creation, and the arab nations, even with frontiers carved by western powers, are composed of local populations.

          • Kawa Asinger

            Khazar, fake, palestine. If they mixed in, that makes them direct descendants buddy. If I marry an Arab and have Kids, ten generations down they are still my direct descendants. My gene’s would be still in them. So your argument is self-refuting. “Palestines live in palestine for thousands of years,” I beg to differ. They didn’t. And as you said, the Roman’s expelled them, so Israel existed but Palestine in its modern Arab identity sense did not. Philistia did exist, but they weren’t Arabs. It was called the British Mandate of Palestine the name came from the Romans, and they got it from the Philistine whom weren’t Arabs. Jews also lived in the British mandate of Palestine. You can even go to the Encyclopedia Britannica.

            https://www.britannica.com/topic/Philistine-people

            The flag of the Mandate:

            https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Flags_of_the_British_Mandate_of_Palestine

          • Daniel Castro

            So what, Castro family descends from vikings who settled in Portugal, by your logic I could go to Norway and claim my citizenship there because I have a vague notion of who were my ancestrals, that’s ridiculous!

            Thousands of years matter, documents matter, religious books are just relevant to followers of that religion… From Italian side I descend from cruzaders, so I too have a claim on Israel because Christ is King there and we christians are his people. Koran, Bible, Tora, they matter only for who believe them, for everything else we have international law.

          • Kawa Asinger

            That is whay I have been saying about religion. Religion shouldn’t have a role in this. Having said that Jews have a history in that land. You can’t just lie and say no they didn’t now give it back to the Arabs. Israel, Then Romans came, Then Muslims, Then Turks, Then Anglo-Saxons, Now Jews again. So according to your argument, the Jews have it for now until a time it is taken from them.

          • Daniel Castro

            My argument is they are entitled to the borders before 67, nothing more, nothing less.

            And they should stop the aggression toward their neighbors because this is real casus beli and gives grounds for everyone in the region t ocounterattack them in a brutal way.

          • Brother Ma

            Is that true daniel? .castro is a common iberian name.are all castros viking? Surely some are just roman latin with no viking forebears?

          • Daniel Castro

            Yes, Castro is an old portuguese word for a sort of medieval fortification, it has the same root of the english Castle, and in fact sounds almost exactly the same word. People of this family was called like that by portuguese because they were invaders who settled in a region in portugal and lived there inside these fortifications, hardly mixing with the locals.

            Vikings had a lot of influence in Portugal, to such a extent that the only place that retained the same technique of viking boat construction was in portugal.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poveiro_(boat)

          • Brother Ma

            Cool.

          • Omega

            The Romans didn’t call it Palestine, they latinized the name. “Filistan” in Aramaic has existed thousands of years before the Romans came.

          • Kawa Asinger

            The word is Aramaic. Filistan, comes form Philistia. The people known as Philistine. They settled in that region. They are not related to the Palestinians. And es the Romans called Palestine, i think he was just saying what the Roman’s called it, not that they invented the word.

          • Omega

            I know what it is. I made no reference between the Philistines and Palestinians.

            My only point is: the Romans did not name or call the land, they latinized its pre-existing name.

          • Kawa Asinger

            Yeah, I am saying the same thing. But hey why did you reply remember I am a: “Talmudic-Zionist vermin.”

          • Omega

            If you meant to say the same thing, I must have misread.

            About you, I am sure you heard of the following:

            “The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.”

            You pretend to be impartial, neutral, without an agenda, simply an “Australian”, etc. Yet, all your comments echoe the very essence of a typical, sly, hasbara-sayanim troll.

          • Kawa Asinger

            You came without any argument attacking me. Straw man argument. You attack the person instead of the argument. That speaks volumes about you. And just because I don’t agree with your point of view doesn’t make me sly, neither does it make be bias or having an agenda. Your just be delusional. You make assumptions and then follow from those baseless assumptions; thus, your argument is only against yourself.

          • Omega

            If, as you claim, I didn’t have an argument, then I cannot have pulled a straw man argument. The very concept of a straw man argument is to divert the discussion I exploiting an unrelated new argument. I didn’t think I had to explain that.

            If you’re not a troll and actually speak your own mind, based on that what you know, then I can only decude that you lack critical thinking and swallow docilely everything fed to you.

          • dutchnational

            Philistans lived in the coastal region of Israel and their origin (as sea people) was until recently unknown. Some thought them to be early Greeks.

            Recently it was found (by translation of old inscripts) they were a Luwian people, from around Troy. Luwians lives in Anatolia and were related to the Hittites.

          • dutchnational

            You should read up on history, outside of the propaganda in state history books.

            Jews never left the area totally and the Samaritans were the majority people there (no arabs at all). Jews hating the Roman Empire (and the later Byzantine Empire) for obvious reasons revolted several times up till the 7th century, as allies of the Persians. Samaritans were allies to the Romans until they ran afoul of a Byzantinium emporer and were persecuted from that day. They revaloted also many times. It can all be found in roman and byzantine archives and books.

            After the muslim conquest, the majority were still Samaritans. After the crusades most Samaritans were forcibly converted to being muslims and from several muslim families in the West Bank and Nablus, it is known they used to be Samaritan in the past.

          • Daniel Castro

            So, they are muslims, not jewish, end of story.

          • Brother Ma

            Actually it was Canaan before it ever became Israel.

          • Kawa Asinger

            Sure thing. But Palestinians are not the descendants of the Canaanites.

          • Brother Ma

            Who says? Most evidence says that they are semitic and descendants of original stock with a stratum of arab admixture.again semitic ,cousins of original Hebrews.

          • Omega

            Who were the “original Hebrews”? Can you please explain.

          • Daniel Castro

            Even those are just a a legend, people who worte the bible invented a lot, assimilated a lot, on biblic times what you really had were several nomadic people, there was no distinction between hebreus and arabs, it was created by whoever wrote the bible.

            Several biblic accounts are a colection of stories told by ancient peoples, like sumerians.

          • Omega

            Predisely.

            Their Book says they came from Mesopotamia, invaded the land in a military fashion, killed all the inhabitants (the Canaanites) to then establish vast empires. Archeology and recent DNA studies have invalidated all those stories.

            No land was conquered. See “Chapter 5: The Structure of Joshua”: http://oyc.yale.edu/transcript/955/rlst-145

            No Canaanites were killed: http://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2017-07-28/ancient-dna-shows-canaanites-survived-biblical-slaughter/8749264

            Additionally, the Old Hebrew alphabet is Canaanite-Phoenician, the deities they worshipped were Canaanite-Phoenician (Yahweh is the Phoenician God of Fertility, Adon), their first Temple (supposedly Solomon’s) was built by the Canaanites-Phoenicians, etc.

            It is a coincidence that the history of the Canaanites-Phoenicians (who were the same people) has been suppressed by the Jews, Romans and later the West?

            A few other points worth consider:

            • None of the ancient people mention the Hebrews and/or Israelites in trade or diplomacy but they mention each other. The ancient Egyptians who wrote about everyone on their walls did not make a single allusion to them.

            • All Hebrews (whoever they were) were not Jewish. Only the tribes of Yehuda, Benjamin and part of Levi were: https://www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/booklets/the-united-states-and-britain-in-bible-prophecy/are-all-israelites-jews

            • Jews practiced Pharisaism, later known as Talmudism (Tradition of the Elders), Medieval Rabbinism, Modern Rabbinism before being renamed as Judaism. Pharisaim was based on the Babylonian Code of Hammurabbi – an oligarchical system where a few on top control all below.

            • Hebrews (whoever they were) practiced Yahwehism/Hebrewism.

          • dutchnational

            The original ‘Hebrews” were one of the tribes, or a group of tribes, that evolved in the wider region.

            Those who study the old languages have clearly shown the interrelations between old Phoenicician, Hebrew, Moabite and some other languages of the region. It is even posed some of them were mutually intelligable at some time.

          • Omega

            Didn’t they supposedly come from Mesopotamia, invaded the land of Canaan in a military fashion, killed all the inhabitants to the estavkish vast empires? At least, that’s what their stories claim.

            Old Hebrew is Phoenician; period.

            Why was the story of the Canaanites/Phoenicians suppressed by the ancient Jews, Romans and later the West?

          • dutchnational

            All old peoples claim either to have lived there forever or to have come from somewhere. As most were semi nomadic, illiterate, the histories were verbal.

            Over the centuries, stories gradually changed a bit.

            It is often stories were both correct. A new group came, conquered the lands, were the “Masters” for a few generations and then were incorperated into the older stratum. Happened in China many times, France – normans, Bulgaria (Bulgars were turkic nomands conquering and being incorperated into thew slav stratum, only retaining their name), germanic tribes in North Africa and Iberia etc etc.

            For present day politics, it is hardly relevant.

          • Omega

            You’re diverting and extrapolating to brush it off as irrelevant.

            The point is that the ancient Jews, Romans and later the West have suppressed the history of the Canaanites/Phoenicians and/or have hijacked their achievements as theirs.

          • Kawa Asinger

            Yes Arabs are semites, so are Assyrians. I know this.

          • Omega

            You love exploiting people’s ignorance don’t you you slimy Talmudic-Zionist vermin.

            Most Palestinians have Levantine DNA. This is old news old.

            The European and Eastern European Jews in Palestine pretending to be Semitic – aka “Israelis” so not.

            Todays Lebanese are:

            The study found that over 90 per cent of the ancestry of modern-day people from Lebanon was derived from the Canaanites.

            http://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2017-07-28/ancient-dna-shows-canaanites-survived-biblical-slaughter/8749264

          • Kawa Asinger

            Lebanese and Palestinian are not the same. “Talmudic-Zionist vermin.” Why are you getting personal? if you can’t argue, then don’t.

          • Omega

            Don’t fall for his Zionist manure.

            The Romans didn’t call or name the land, they latinized its existing name.

            As far as your comment goes, the land of Canaan didn’t become Israel. That’s is incorrect. None of the Biblical stories are true. There was no military conquest of the land, no killing of the inhabitants, no establishment of “Hebrew” Empires. Archeology has invalidated all those fallacies.

          • Brother Ma

            I agree with you.i did not want to go into too much detail here.since you asked we might tell our readers a liitle bit more of what we know.

            Latest research ,very hard to go against ,proves Hebrews were simply an offshoot of original canaanites living there. There was no hebrew invasion,no killing of jebusites etc.simply one lot of canaanites separated themselves from the rest and kept themselves that way.a bit like dangerous cults like jonestown and waco cult.

          • Omega

            Thank you for clarifying.

            While I don’t think the “Waco Cult” was dangerous – I think the people involved were demonized to justify the disproportionate government response – the Jonestown massacre cannot be more on point. The indoctrination (the Holocaust and mythical Siege if Masada) going on in IsraHell is identical to the preaching of Jones: collective suicide. I invite you to read the two pages Editorial in the following link:

            http://wlym.com/archive/campaigner/7812.pdf

          • Brother Ma

            Thanks Omega. I will read. It will take me some time to get back to you though as it is fifty seven pages.

          • Omega

            Most welcome. At your convenience. If you can, the two-pages “Editorial” was on point with what you brought up: Jonestown massacre.

          • dutchnational

            Massadah is not mythical at all. The romans have written extensively about the siege and all and we still have the texts. The fort and the ramp the Romans built are still there to see and have seen it myself too.

          • Omega

            Never said the fort did/does not exist. The archeology to back up the story doesn’t exist or is inconclusive.

          • dutchnational

            I refer you to the roman history books, written at the time itself. They are conclusive.

          • Omega

            I either miscommunicated or your misunderstood. The fort, ramps, etc are there. It’s the story of how some Jewish families escaped there to survive from the Romans that doesn’t add up. The accounts of Josephus and the archeology don’t match. In a nutshell, the story is an invention aimed at fueling patriotism. You can read about it here:

            The Masada Myth
            https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biblianazar/esp_biblianazar_55.htm

          • Kawa Asinger

            “Don’t fall for his Zionist manure.”
            It is called a logical argument. You’re the only one with a filthy mouth.

          • Omega

            For your augment to be logical, it would first have to be unbiased. It isn’t.

            Instead of correcting Brother Ma – that the Land of Canaan became Israel – you went on with it.

          • Kawa Asinger

            For an argument to be logical, you don’t have to be impartial. I am putting forth an argument, and it is logical because I am not attacking anyone personally or making disgusting claims like you. Go educate yourself, then talk about what is logical or not.

          • Omega

            Your comments/arguments are neither logical nor impartial. They are based on the Zionist narrative which distorts history, religious history and reality as a whole.

            The Land of Canaan didn’t become Israel. You should know that but instead, you went on agreeing. How are you logical or impartial?

          • Omega

            The Romans didn’t call the land. They latinized the existing name.

          • Brother Ma

            Who cares what the koran says? Some of us were there before the moslems arrived in middle east anyway and before jews came to palestine.

          • Kawa Asinger

            Tell that to the Palestinians who will Kill for saying that. They claim the dome of the rock because of religion. Many things they do, is because of religion.

          • Daniel Castro

            Fanatics are idiots, it doesn’t matter from which people they come.

          • Kawa Asinger

            God damn, finally someone agrees with me. Exactly, we have to deal with reality. Israel exists – fact. So, how do we fix this Israeli-Palestinian conflict? Withouth baseless historic claims to land- except recent. Because if we go back in time no one owned any land, we were just wanderers on this earth.

          • Daniel Castro

            67 borders, and kurdistan is a big huge no, unless Iran, Turkey, Iraq and Syria allow.

          • Kawa Asinger

            Kurdistan has a history spanning further back in history than the Israelis or Palestinians. One step at a time. 67 borders, nah mate, they want the annihilation of Israel. Look at HAMAS. Remove the PLO and HAMAS and Palestine will be born.

          • Daniel Castro

            Problem is, world peace is founded upon UN charter which protects current nation state borders at all costs, internal matters are to be settled by the laws of respective countries.

            UN charter also protect populations like kurds, if any government decides to ethnic cleansing, but it is more complex as any military action depends on UNSC approval.

            This is a very solid, petrified system, so it will be very hard for kurdistan, and even catalunia and the like to become countries, the best way is to be a part of such countries, to be brothers to the point where political borders won’t matter, or such countries would willingly allow the independence of these regions.

            Any other option will only bring hatred, chaos and death to the world.

          • Kawa Asinger

            I would rather live in Catalonia under Spanish rule, Then any part of Kurdistan under the neighbouring countries. Yes, Looking to redraw maps is hard. That is why Kurds have to take it a step at a time and not rush. Rushing will cause a retaliation against them. Right now Iraq is on good terms with the Kurds, and slowly it will get better hopefully.

          • Daniel Castro

            You wouldn’t say that under the rule of Generalissimo Franco, not if were basque at least.

            Now the majority of catalonia do want to be a part of Spain, those who voted to indepence were a minority of provocateurs, and they are playing with fire, latin people can be very brutal if needed.

          • Kawa Asinger

            But Europe is more stable than Middle East. Just look at the History in the middle east. Genocide after Genocide, against their own time after time. Everyone from the Middle East runs to the west for a reason.

          • Daniel Castro

            Nowadays Europe is mre stable, but the scale of hatred, violence and destruction of WW2 in Europe is yet to be seen in history.

          • Kawa Asinger

            Kurds would probably stay with semi-autonomy for now.

          • Brother Ma

            So do zionist israelis.

          • Kawa Asinger

            Thanks for figuring that out. I was replying to your comment. I know there are Jews who will kill fellow jews who marry outside their religion, or extremely xenophobic against other people. I have read and seen them.

          • Daniel Castro

            Another nail on the cofin of your argument.

            Here in Brazil we have the New Christians, which were Jews forced to convert to catholicism when they came here:

            Oliveiras, Carvalhos, Coelhos, Teixeiras, Pereiras… it is a long list of numerous
            very commom families, millions of people who descend from spanish Jews, millions and more millions, if you take them all to ISrael people would have to take turns to sit, and they are all Roman Catholic mixed with brazilian natives and blacks.

            Let’s take all this people to Israel too, let’s see how that will work out.

          • Kawa Asinger

            No nail in my coffin. My argument is a two-state solution. And you can’t forcibly take people elsewhere.

          • Daniel Castro

            I’m saying these people are also genetic jews, so they are also entitled to israeli citizenship, let’s see what the current people in Israel will say about it.

            The argument is the same, they descend from jews, so they own the land too…

          • Kawa Asinger

            Yes, true. I get it. But Israel doesn’t say bring them all here. They whoever wants to come back. But realistically, If they all did go back, Israel can’t handle it. So it would probably stop them. It is self-destruction.

          • Daniel Castro

            They say, bring all jews, but they say that to religious jews, or traditional european jew, even if atheist, if you take all real jewish descendents they won’t accept… Well, they treated the black jews like crap too, so it seems you need to be a religious jew, and not black, then you will be accepted.

            Any way you look at this it just stands as a fraud, they are invaders, period. It was really a shame europe, UN recognized Israel in the first place, but what is done is done.

          • Kawa Asinger

            Everyone is an invader. At one point in time, someone invaded someone else. That doesn’t fix any problems. Turks invaded Anatolia but they won’t give it back. Just look at Kurdistan, a place where no Arabs existed now Arabs have settled there and won’t leave. So that makes Arabs invaders. That argument is nonsense.

          • Kawa Asinger

            Yes, there is a double standard. But all politicians have double standards, that’s politics.

          • Brother Ma

            Daniel.you already know i love history. The names above.surely there are some that were never jewish.like weiss and meyer ,usually jewish but not absolutely always.

          • Daniel Castro

            Why would they name themselves as jewish if they were forced to abandomn their heritage? They adopted names of trees and animals to replace their own, however the most common of them is Oliveira, which come from Olive, like in the city of the olives, Jerusalem.

          • Brother Ma

            I didnt say they gave themselves jewish surnames only that some germans ,who swear they have no jewish blood ,have surnames commonly used by and associated with jews.

            Who knows ,maybe they were Jews centuries ago, yet the current descendants do not know it.

            Hitler’s leaders and generals,pfeiffer,franks,michaelis all nomally jewish names but not in their case?

          • Daniel Castro

            These are families of converted jews, the inquisition forced them to convert to stay here, they picked up names of trees and animals to replace their jewish names, but now after centuries there is almost no trace of jewish culture on them, most being roman catholic and now some few are evangelics.

            Indeed, many of them are ignorant of their backgrounds and will feel insulted if you tell them they have a jewish background. Yet there are still some few who are trying to become jewish again nowadays…

          • Brother Ma

            Yes i heard abour many cryptojews coming out.apparently,a whole village in northern portugal has tried to get in touch with jewish roots again. It starts with b but i forgot the name.

            Also temer ,whats with him? I heard he was orthodox but now changed to catholic.i suppose he had to in majority catholic brazil.

          • Daniel Castro

            Temer is syrio-lebanese, but don’t hold any hope for him, he is a master politician, but completely corrupt, he will deal with anyone, absolutely anyone, I even think these accusations of him being a CIA agent are a misconception, fact is he deals with CIA, but will deal with chinese or russians too, he plays everyone.

            Temer actually never had any interest in being president, he just took over power because he saw Dilma Roussef had screwed badly and would throw him to the dogs to save herself, so he acted first, now he only manages to stay in power because he is bribing his way through the olygarchy he knows so well.

            I don’t know, really don’t know how we’re going to get a real leadership for Brazil, for now we’re just avoiding falling in the same pit that Venezuela is…

          • Brother Ma

            A pity.Brazil has so much potential.all climates,all minerals,tourism ,agriculture etc
            My concern is law and order outside the cities.i have seen too many horrible videos of machete murders of narcos and just between townspeople in interior. Why does it seem that people have to take justice into their own hands?

          • dutchnational

            It is indeed well known that many of the early settlers in Brasil and Spanish Americas were “converted” jews.

            When the Dutch took Recife and Bahia for a few decades some converted back to judaism and left for Curacao (dutch west indies) with the Dutch after the Portugese took the cities back again.

            The oldest still existing synagogue of the Americas still stands on that island.

          • Brother Ma

            Kawa.you said you were kurdish.shouldn’t you be claiming the dome of the rock as well?

          • Kawa Asinger

            Why would I claim the Dome of the Rock??

          • Brother Ma

            Majority of kurds are muslim, then jewish ,then christian then yazidi. You said you were kurdish.

          • Kawa Asinger

            So that automatically makes me : “muslim, then jewish ,then christian then yazidi.”

          • Omega

            Religious books are not historical. Show me archeological proof of ancient Israel, the Israelites (who, doe the redord, were not Jewish), etc.

          • Kawa Asinger

            I agree religious books are not historical genius. That was just refuting the Muslim religious perspective of it. Again, you agree with me. I think your speaking out of anger, and are not reading my comments properly.

          • Omega

            No, I don’t agree with you. You entitle yourself to speak for me out of desperation.

            If you agree that religious books aren’t historical then it applies to all religious books.

            The reference to “Children of Israel” doesn’t mean there was an Israel. Isra = God Lives. El = Canaanite God. The followers of El were the Children. You need to read Israel Finkelstein’s monumental “Bible Unearthed” to slice the lies you’ve been forced fed all your life by the Zionists. Yahwehism derives from pagan Canaanite worship.

            You claim “Palestinian” is not an ethnicity. The concept of ethnicity is modern. There was no “Israeli” until 1948 either and there would have been a “Palestinian” ethnicitybin 1948 if the Jews had not stolen most of the UN Partition, more of it in 1967 and even more so ever since.

          • Rakean Jaya

            You tried to bring this topic to religion perspective. Seem you know well about Islam in fact NO and you spreading lies here. ‘The Prophet Muhammad never set foot…..’, He is indeed was set foot in Jerusalem, it’s stated in Quran surah Al-Isra. Quite sure now, you’re not a kurdish.

          • Kawa Asinger

            You my friend are very ignorant. I don’t agree with you; therefore, I’m not Kurdish. Ok can you prove it? Don’t think so. Min Kurdim u her kurd ebim. Kurdí ustiralíam. Eger natiwaní be bírsayí belge benítewe, wiskitbew daníşe.

          • Rakean Jaya

            Nice try, since online translation is everywhere. I suspect you just duchnational or Geert Wilder kinds

          • Kawa Asinger

            You are a dumbass, I wrote in Kurdí Petí (Pure Kurdish), no online translation has that. they always translate using arabic loan words. But, I just proved you are an ignorant person, and know nothing about Kurds, their culture or language.

          • Rakean Jaya

            My apologies then if you’re indeed a kurdish, but now i know that Zionism disease have already spread everywhere, i have a Zionist-kurds now.

          • dutchnational

            Hey, do not forget the 11th commandment : Thou shall not use my name in vain.

          • Rakean Jaya

            Focus to the topic, i just reveal your lies. but i expect your respond would like this one, very typical , spread lies and when someone counter your lie, you change the topic. Zionist Troll

          • Kawa Asinger

            I didn’t change the topic you just got refuted. And no Muhammad didn’t step a foot in Jerusalem, give me the proof.

          • Rakean Jaya

            Al-Aqsa mosque is a proof. Then give me a proof that Israel already exists before 1948?

      • Joe

        Ya, except that they were there before Israel parachuted in.

        Others were recognised as countries globally and has nothing to do with the topic

        • Omega

          A “Jewish” Homeland in the Middle East originated in the 18th century. It was a British idea to control geo-assets in the Middle East after Napoleon’s return from the region.

        • Kawa Asinger

          They were recognised because it benefited the colonial powers. Shareef Hussein a Hashimite allied with the Colonial powers, his sons were made the Kings of Iraq (artificial, and no history), and Jordan. King Abdullah of Jordan is the descendant of Shareef Hussein of Hijaz. Shareef Hussein wanted to become the caliph, so the colonials removed himmand put the Saudi family in power.

        • dutchnational

          Incorrect. All (except for Iran) the states mentioned above were only created after app 1880, when jewish immigration into the region commenced, approved by the Ottoman Empire.

      • Omega

        You are in dire need of education. You are truly lamentable.

        • Just like “ethnicity”, the concept of “countries” is modern. IsraHell is no exception.

        • All the borders of the countries you listed were carved by the Anglo-French after WW1 (Sykes-Picot). IsraHell is no exception.

        • Lebanon is Phoenicia Libanensis, or simply Phoenicia (land of Canaan). It dates back to 3600BC.

        • The name Suriyya (Syria) was derived and employed by the Greeks from the famous Phoenician city of Tyre or Sur (Tsyrus/Tyrus).

        • Iran is part of the ancient Persian Empire.

        • Turkey is part of the former Ottoman Empire.

        • The Gulf, Jordan and Iraq are modern caevings.

        • IsraHell. Outside the Hebrew Bible, there is no written history or archeology about it. The ancient Egyptians who wrote about themselves and all of those they interacted with did not mention ancient Israel, the Israelites or Hebrews. Neither did any of the ancient people – but they mentioned each other.

        A “Jewish” homeland in the Middle East is an idea that originated in 1830 after Napoleon’s return from the region. While Napoleon saw the populating of a land in the ME (Egypt) as a way to establish a flourishing trade route to Europe, the ruling class of Britain saw the Jews as pawns to control the Middle East’s geoassets. That is when a Modern Zionism came to be. A century later, the Brits created IsraHell as a buffer zone, an outpost to control the region. If one “country” is a colonial state to the core, it is very much so IsraHell.

    • Omega

      Precisely.

      How do you think IsraHell was created?

      Terrorism: How the Israeli state was won
      http://mondoweiss.net/2017/01/terrorism-israeli-state/

  • Simon Abruzzo

    Oh man, so much shit would go away if Israel would suddenly disappear from the earth.

    • Langaniso Mhlobo

      Israelis have killed the Messiah.Pharao and Hitler must be wake up to finished off this rubbish shit. We want regime change in Israel to safe God fearing Israelist from the evil government.

      • Kawa Asinger

        It is religious lunatics like yourselves who cause all these sufferings, and also dogmatic fascists. All about God this and God that, yet no evidence for the proof of God. So get lost.

        • Langaniso Mhlobo

          I have seen God and therefore will never forsake my fellow human brother irrespective of his skin color.

          • Kawa Asinger

            Well your god says, Jews are better than you. GENIUS! Your God chose the Jews to be born from, because you Goyims are not worthy of his flesh! So how about that, GENIUS!!! You’ve seen GOD. Well, I have seen the tooth fairy can you prove me wrong?

          • Langaniso Mhlobo

            Please say what ever you want to me but don’t mock God.Lastly I don’t entertain devilish talks because I am not a gay.

          • Kawa Asinger

            Dude, get of the gay tip (pun intended). Mock God? How can I mock something that doesn’t exist? Your God does not exist. You have zero evidence for this God of yours. I have met other who have met their God, why isn’t their God real? Why arem’t they right? Just because you don’t believe in their God, doesn’t mean yours is real and there’s fake, or vice versa. Devilish talk? So having a logical argument, is devilish? But, hating on others and indirectly insulting them and calling for their destruction is not? Go figure, look what religion does to you, makes you …almost psychotic. You state: “I have seen God and therefore will never forsake my fellow human brother irrespective of his skin color.” Yet in your previous comment, you state: “Religious lunatics is Israelis camouflage behind God chosen one emblem to kill others for their land and oil.” You forsake your human brother. Sound like a hypocrite. Correct me if I am wrong, please.

        • Langaniso Mhlobo

          Religious lunatics is Israelis camouflage behind God chosen one emblem to kill others for their land and oil.

          • Kawa Asinger

            Thanks for proving my point, GENIUS!

    • 59LesPaul

      Israel and Washington DC.

    • dutchnational

      Maybe even all people?

  • Langaniso Mhlobo

    Israel and USA no longer abides by the international laws norms and values.Their just do as their like.Their are super power of arrogance,Hatred,Instigators, greedy, Hypocrites, Selfishness,divide and rule,wars and terrorism.Promotes apartheid, racism, destruction, vampires,illuminates,secret societies,Satanism and men to men mirage.Disregarding God love and peace and unity.

    • Kawa Asinger

      How does homosexuality have anything to do with this war? And your God doesn’t exist, so stop making baseless arguments.

      • Langaniso Mhlobo

        God who create heaven and earth man and woman exist.He lead us in Africa to overcame oppression and apartheid yet today we embrace the one’s that oppress us.Wither you like It or not God doesn’t allow men to men mirage it is worst then vomit.It is satanic it smells bad.Dont play in faeces there lot of women.God will punish you.Stay away from other man.

        • Kawa Asinger

          You state: “God who create heaven and earth man and woman exist.” it is just your belief, not evidence or proof of this God’s existence. He didn’t lead Africa anywhere, Africa is full of corruption. South African’s stood up and practically removed the Colonials from power. Don’t attribute people’s hard work to an imaginary being. And if you like it or not, you claiming that God exists is just that, your claim and no evidence of this “God’s” existence. I say the Tooth Fairy exists can you disprove it, I don’t think so. Who said I am homosexual? You can play in feces of women also, buddy. Who’s God? Muslims, Christian’s, Jew’s, Buddhist’s, Hindu’s, Aboriginal’s, the Juju on the mountain? like I said no evidence, just believing in an imaginary being. If someone told you that they have an imaginary friend, you assume he is mentally ill. So what is the difference between that imaginary friend and your God? God doesn’t allow men to marry men, but he allows innocent people to be killed in wars, and tsunamis, and storms, and at birth, and get raped, and murdered, and “God” has a nack for burning and torturing people, sound like medieval Kings and dictator to me.

          • Langaniso Mhlobo

            Don’t quarrel with me I am not your husband.

          • Kawa Asinger

            You’re right, you aren’t my husband. Your my bitch! You most probably are in the closet gay, that padre probably blessed you when you were an alter boy.

          • Langaniso Mhlobo

            If you are man why are you quarreling more then a woman.Please leave alone I don’t want a fake woman just real woman.

          • Kawa Asinger

            But your a bitch, how can a bitch have a real woman? Only a husband. I guess when that Padre was feeding you the flesh of Christ, he didn’t give you any brain, he just made you give him some! HAHAHAHA!!!!

          • Langaniso Mhlobo

            I can see American gay is desperate for man.Are you jealous we Africans don’t marry a man made woman.Sorry baby go get atention somewhere i am not going to waist my time with you bye.

          • Kawa Asinger

            I am not American, and there is no country called America, you LOW IQ idiot. You won’t waste time with me? Nah, alter boy. Run to your church quick, the Padre is waiting to give you some of Christ’s flesh, and bring forth the blood of Christ from you! HAHAHAHA!!!

          • Langaniso Mhlobo

            Homosexuals can quarrel.

          • Kawa Asinger

            Keep showing your IQ level.

      • Omega

        Does your God exist?

        • Kawa Asinger

          My God? I’m starting to get the perception that you have difficulty with the English language.

          • Omega

            Your perception is as strong as your logic.

            I don’t know if you posted the same thing twice or if you edited but my response is that same:

            Yes, your God. You told Langasino Mhlobo his God doesn’t exist. I am asking you I yours does. You know, the Phoenician God of Fertility, Adon – aka Yahweh.

          • Kawa Asinger

            Read between the lines, moron. Get over your inferiority complex, stupid. You keep showing that your IQ is lower than I can ever imagine, towards minus infinity. Like I said my “God”? Yahweh? You are a really stupid person. You assume everyone who doesn’t agree with you is from the Judaeo-Christian faith. Keep showing your low IQ, you ignorant imbecile. Even though, I question the existence of god, you still ask about my “god”. You truly are an idiot.

          • Omega

            • “moron”
            • “inferiority complex, stupid”
            • “stupid person”
            • “low IQ, you ignorant imbecile”
            • “idiot”

            Haha, okay. Did you, by any chance, blow facial nerve writting that? How old are you anyway? You argue like a teenager.

            I’ll repeat: you told Langasino his God doesn’t exist and I simply asked you: what is your God. You seemed to imply yours does exist while others’s don’t.

            For the record and since you seem to suffer from reading comprehension, I’ll explain what he meant: Israeli Jews worship Satanism and gave up the good and moral values of God.

            I didn’t assume you were “Judeo-Christian” (whatever that means – see below) for not agreeing with me. I simply asked you: what is your God. When you didn’t answer and since you are anti-Muslims and pro-IsraHell, I deduced you were Jewish. There are Jewish Kurds after all.

            “Judeo-Christianity” is Zionist manure – meaning horseshit. Judaism was on Pharisaism (which is based on the Babylonian Code of Hammurabbi). It was later known as Talmudism (Tradition of the Elders) then Medieval Rabbinism then Modern Rabbinism and finally Judaism. Christianity derives from Yahwehism, which later was known as Hebrewism. It’s important to make that distinction. If Judaism and Christiniaty were the same and/or related, why does the Bible calls the followers of the Tradition of the Elders (aka Talmudism): vipers, serpents, children of Satan, Synagogue of Satan, etc.

        • Kawa Asinger

          My God?

          • Omega

            Yes, your God. You told Langasino Mhlobo his God doesn’t exist. I am asking you I yours does. You know, the Phoenician God of Fertility, Adon – aka Yahweh.

  • Rob

    Israel and the surrounding areas are the death zones.

  • Cobras

    HA! they can’t use their “advanced” planes anymore, now SAA just needs to invest in some PANTSIR S1 at the israeli border and finish off the “moderate rebels” buddies of Israel in the region. so it’s checkmate.

    • dutchnational

      Yes, SAA is indeed checkmate as in impotent there.

  • Joe Doe

    SAA making mistakes making advances in that part of Syria. SAA is not ready confront IDF. SAA should concentrate and send units to liberate Eastern Part of Syria including Deir Ezzor CS, than Idlib province and mean time Assad should obtain better military hardware and prepare SAA with deal with IDF. Right now SAA has no chance, only unnecessary, stupid tactics that inflicting unnecessary damage to SAA units

    • Kawa Asinger

      SAA can barely confront little terrorist groups let alone a conventional and superior armed forces such as the IDF. It would literally take IDF hours to wipe the floor with the SAA, like c’mon let’s be real and not delusional.

      • bcbingram

        Unless Russia steps in to defend their ally.

        • Kawa Asinger

          …yeah …nah I don’t think so. Russia won’t step in to do anything. I mean Russia was a great buddy of Iran, until it sold S-400 to Turkey, and now to KSA and oil deals. like seriously, people are thinking in terms of fairy-tales. Russia might supply weapons, maybe play an advisory role at best, but it won’t send in troops to confront Israel.

          • George King

            It doesn’t need to as both Russia and China are completely undermining the petrol U$ in it’s trade and commerce as you describe in “KSA and oil deals” the deal is it is done in Yuan, get it? The printing presses creating wealth from thin air is over along with all monies based on the U$ petrol dollar ie the Aussie.

        • Omega

          Syria doesn’t need Russia for that. It has Iran and Hezbollah. Don’t forget how IsraHell (with its IAF, IDF and 15K+ army reserve) failed to destroy Hezbollah in 2006.

      • Omega

        Does your propaganda have a bound “impartial Australian”?

        • George King

          Australians can’t be impartial, they are vassals of Empire and Kawa’s spit and vinegar is false bravado based on being in a vassal state which has no significance in making it any thing other than a wannabe.

          • Omega

            Agreed. I was mostly calling out Kawa’s deceit. A what-appears-to-be Jewish Kurd living in Australia who pretends to be “impartial”.

        • Kawa Asinger

          Again you use a straw man argument, speaks volumes about your “impartiality”. Why wasn’t Assad capable of defeating the terrorist cells without the help of Russia? I’ll give it you that they had foreign backers, but so do some groups that fight Israe, yet their capable of defeating them. I’m being realistic. Mr. Conspiracy theorist.

          • Omega

            I don’t know where you read a straw man argument but I can only suspect that you have once again reached the limit of your IQ and have nothing left to say.

            You claim the SAA cannot confront little terrorist groups when that’s all they, along with Russia, Iran and Hezbollah have been doing for the past six years.

            I never claimed Syria could have defeated the Takfiri hordes without the help of Russia.

            No groups fight IsraHell.

          • Kawa Asinger

            You are doing a straw man argument: “A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent’s argument, while refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be “attacking a straw man”.” Quoting yourself: “Does your propaganda have a bound ‘impartial Australian'”. You attack me. “Argumentum ad Hominem (abusive and circumstantial): the fallacy of attacking the character or circumstances of an individual who is advancing a statement or an argument instead of trying to disprove the truth of the statement or the soundness of the argument.” source:(http://philosophy.lander.edu/scireas/personal.html).

            quoting yourself, again: “You claim the SAA cannot confront little terrorist groups when that’s all they, along with Russia, Iran and Hezbollah have been doing for the past six years.”

            No, SAA was getting pushed back even with hezbullah and Iran’s aid. The game changer was Russian aid, in the form of intelligence, Air support, military training, weapons aid, Special forces, and much more. In the end you came to agree with me. Instead of just agreeing, and stating that they had support from Russia, you went on a ad hominem attack, and a straw man argument about propaganda. While all I was doing is stating facts. IDF is capable of fighting SAA, and its neighboring Arab countries. They have proven it time and again by defeating them in wars, so meh believe whatever you want yo believe.

          • Omega

            You need to be less emotional and more factual.

            Where do you see a straw man argument and/or ad hominem when I wrote:

            Does your propaganda have a bound “impartial Australian”?

            Do explain, I’m curious.

            In regards to the war in Syria and the SAA – and little that you realize – you are actually pulling a lamentable non sequitur. Allow me to demonstrate:

            Your initial argument: “SAA can barely confront little terrorist groups let alone a conventional and superior armed forces such as the IDF”

            Your non sequitur: “ It would literally take IDF hours to wipe the floor with the SAA”.

            How can you establish the fact that the IDF can wipe the SAA in hours when the SAA and IDF are not in direct confrontation? You seem to support your non sequitur with: “They have proven it time and again by defeating them in wars”.

            What “wars” are you talking about? Nobody attacked IsraHell in 1948. If you believe otherwise, and I have asked you this before: what land granted to IsraHell by the UNSCOP was attacked? Nobody attacked IsraHell in 1967 either – IsraHell attacked and then lied it was attacked.

            What you and I think or believe is irrelevant. Facts matter.

          • dutchnational

            Do not let them push you in a corner. One does not have to be impartial. Most of the commenters here are not impartial. They are ass-adophyles.

            The few that are not get villyfied here.

            Do like me, usually, to the frustation of some, I just do not respond once antisemitic ranting starts or verbal abuse.

      • dontlietome

        You are COWARDS hiding behind your American mommies petticoats. Time will deal with you, it always does.

  • John Panelli

    Cowards . . always hiding behind their technology and using all their courage to attack a country in the throes of insurrection and war . .

    • Kawa Asinger

      Not really cowards. Pretty god damn smart. If you were in a fight why the hell would you want your enemy to get stronger than you to the point it can defeat you. That is just plain stupid. Don’t give the enemy the tools to kill you with.

      • dontlietome

        No you are REALLY COWARDS, this filth called Israel of which you are part, created ISIS, funded them and aided them with embedded forces. You let paid mercenaries carry out atrocities which must make your pigeon chest swell with pride. Your attitude is typical of your tribe, when your enemy is down, then finish him off. Talmudic scum, in our world, that of the God of light we would offer our enemy a chance to negotiate a settlement that would halt any further bloodshed…………….perhaps we should take a page out of your satanic bible, the Talmud, and destroy evil spouting filth such as you and your tribe and rid mankind of this cancer.

        • Kawa Asinger

          “this filth called Israel of which you are part,” No I am not apart of Israel. I am not Israeli, nor am I jewish. So you make no sense.

          “You let paid mercenaries carry out atrocities which must make your pigeon chest swell with pride.” I didn;t pay those mercenaries, neither did I aid them with atrocities.

          “Your attitude is typical of your tribe, when your enemy is down, then finish him off.” What tribe? Stop making baseless assumptions then proceed to defend your own delusional misconception.

          “Talmudic scum, in our world, that of the God of light we would offer our enemy a chance to negotiate a settlement that would halt any further bloodshed.” Your “world”, there is only one world. And this “God” of yours doesn’t exist. Your suffering mentally if you believe in an imaginary being.

          “perhaps we should take a page out of your satanic bible, the Talmud, and destroy evil spouting filth such as you and your tribe and rid mankind of this cancer.” Page out of my bible? I don’t believe in medieval bullshit such as a bible, neither do I believe in your other imaginary friend – “the devil”.

          “rid mankind of this cancer.” Your delusion has lead you to believe genocide is OK, as long as it is on your “God’s” term.

          Keep showing your lunacy.

  • dutchnational

    Well done Israel.

    SAA has no business firing upon Israel.

    If they do, they know the consequences.

    If it was “an accident”, one apoligizes.

    SAA should be more careful, it seems to me they have enough on their plate.

    • TiredOfBsToo

      I can’t wait for the terrorist supporting state of Israel to get a visit from the terrorists they’ve been supporting in Syria. Sooner or later, karma will pay them a visit.

      • Kawa Asinger

        If they are supporting these terrorists, why would they be attacked? I mean Syria trained and armed the PKK and PUK. The same PKK that is at war with it, Turkey and Iran. Sooo… kinda karma for Syria I guess.

        • TiredOfBsToo

          “..why would they be attacked?”

          Were they? Israel always justifies an attack on Syria with some bs or other. Why does Israel provide weapons to terrorists, such as were found at Mayadin? Why does Israel treat terrorists at it’s hospitals? Why does Israel support the PKK and Peshmerga to destroy other ME states? I can’t wait for karma to visit Israel and I look forward to seeing more of those Syrian birds running into Israeli war planes violating International Law.

          • Kawa Asinger

            You do know the Syrian Government aided the PKK right? You do know the PLO and other militant organisation trained the PKK and had ties with them? You do know Syria allowed the PKK to use its territories against Turkey? You do know the PKK was also financed by Syria and armed right? Israel will kick SAA ass, do not become delusional, just be realistic. Israel wiped the floor with the Arab armies in the six day war, so I wouldn’t underestimate Israel. Underestimating or overestimating an enemy is really stupid. You have to analyse the situation and see which route is the best. I mean look at Iraq, all talk and BS until the US invaded and in two weeks defeated the Iraqi military.

          • Brother Ma

            You have not won a war since 1967.

          • Kawa Asinger

            I haven’t been to war. So I don’t know what you’re talking about.

          • Omega

            Aside from regurgitating Zionist manure, you don’t know what you’re talking about; period.

            Since you brought up Iraq, why don’t you mention the role IsraHell played in pushing the WMD lies and forced the US Congress to attack?

          • Kawa Asinger

            Because we aren’t speaking about Iraq you uneducated imbecile. Stop diverging from the argument. Again, I never said anything about WMD or the war on Iraq. Fucking hell are you stupid.

          • Omega

            You claim you didn’t bring up Iraq yet you wrote:

            I mean look at Iraq, all talk and BS until the US invaded and in few weeks defeated the Iraqi military.

            Who’s the stupid again?

          • Kawa Asinger

            You are the stupid one, it was a reference not the main focus. Go educate yourself ignorant fool.

          • Omega

            You behave like a corners rat; I mean Kurd.

          • Omega

            What is the point of your questions?

            You claim IsraHell will “kick SAA ass”. Why doesn’t?

            I’ll repeat myself about the “Six Day War”: there was no war. IsraHell surprise attacked surrounding countries and then lied it was attacked.

          • Kawa Asinger

            It claimed it was a pre-emptive attack against the neighbouring countries that were amassing troops on its borders.

          • Omega

            I know what IsraHell, the US and their mainstream media claimed but it was a lie. Egypt amassed troops following Soviet Intel informing that IsraHell was readying to attack. The intel was confirmed by the CIA.

            The Six Day War and Israeli Lies: What I Saw at the CIA: https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/06/05/the-six-day-war-and-israeli-lies-what-i-saw-at-the-cia/

        • Omega

          Not Karma.

          The typical back-stabbing Kurdish mentality.

          • Kawa Asinger

            Back stabbing Kurdish Mentality? The only time Quds was liberated was by Kurds. Even then the arabs were useless and couldn’t take back Quds. So if I was you, I would shut up and sit my ass down. Turkey banned by law any use of the term Kurd, and committed genocide and massacres against Kurds. Kurds were oppressed in Turkey, Iraq, Iran, and Syria. So next time speak truth then being a racist and bigot.

          • Omega

            In a previous comment, which I will adress momentarily, you responded:

            Because we aren’t speaking about Iraq you uneducated imbecile.

            The “uneducated imbecile” part is particularly interesting, especially in the light of the Zionist manure your regurgitate here.

            You state we aren’t talking about “Iraq” and neither are we talking about that “Quds” here.

            About this comment …

            You’re squealing about genocide when the Kurds where the butchering band in the genocide of Armenians, Greeks and Assyrians with the collapse of the Ottoman Empire.

            You’re whining about Kurdish oppression when the Kurds have been used and abused by the Brits and then the West in exchange for a land somewhere since the collapse of the Ottoman Empire. When the glimpse of a land came to be, it was lead by a long-time Anglo-American collaborator, Barzani, who didn’t lift a finger to help the Yazidi Kurds when Daesh invaded Mosul – the PKK did. There again, that invasion was planned in Jordan in 2014 between the UK, US, IsraHell, Turkey, Gulf, Qatar, Kerkar (an Islamist Kurd flown from Norway on NATO plane) and Barzani. Such was uncovered by a Turkish newspaper in 2014 – shut down by Erdogan in 2016.

            “Yer : Amman, Tarih : 1, Konu : Mosul”, Akif Serhat, Özgür Gündem, 6 July 2014

          • Kawa Asinger

            So you give me a Turkish source against Kurds, wow. Definitely not biased. Keep showing you are an uneducated imbecile.

            The Kurds were the butchering bands? Where? There were a couple chieftans that took part in a couple of places in the massacres, but the majority of Killings were done by Turks, and was put into action by Turks, particularly the Ottomans and young turks.

            The Armenian population were higher in Kurdish areas than turkish ones.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_WDJwmxFhY

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_recognition_of_the_Armenian_Genocide

            http://ekurd.net/the-role-of-the-kurds-in-the-armenian-genocide-were-they-perpetrators-or-an-instrument-2015-04-22

            You got refuted, you are exactly the imbecile I was talking about.

            And so much for being “impartial” quoting bias sources against Kurds. Go get educated ignorant prick.

          • Omega

            You need to be less emotional.

            The link in question was not against Kurds. It’s the Turkish newspaper (that was shut down by Erdogan in 2016) that exposed the 2014 meeting in Jordan between the UK, US, IsraHell, Turkey, Gulf, Qatar, Kerkar and Barzani to plan the Deash invasion of Mosul.

            As far as the Armenians Genocide goes, where do you read me write that the Turks were innocent, that the Kurds didn’t recognize it or that some that the Armenian population was higher than Kurds in some areas?

            Do you realize you accused me of using a Turkish newspaper source against Kurds – when it was not against Kurds – and then went on using a Kurdish link (eKurds) to whitewash the nefarious role he Kurds played in the Armenian Genocide.

            Kurds are too stupid to instigate anything – they were used to do a big part of the killing in the Armenian Genocide. Before jumping off your sera and throwing another manic-depressive tantrum, look at history: they have been used and abused like dirty mops – or cheap condoms if you prefer – by everyone. If they were intelligent, they would have amounted to something by now.

            Why do you think you admire IsraHell so much? Before losers admire accomplishers. In your case, you’re dumber than the usual dumb Kurd. Why? Because you admire what you think is an accomplisher (IsraHell) when in fact, everything about it is British. You even admire their “victories” when they have always attacked unarmed civilians or surprise attacked others. When they face a real army like Hezbollah, they were put back where they belong: like you, in the shit hole.

      • Omega

        ISIS is unlikely to attack IsraHell. They even apologize to it.

        Ex-defense minister says IS ‘apologized’ to Israel for November clash

        https://www.timesofisrael.com/ex-defense-minister-says-is-apologized-to-israel-for-november-clash/

        • TiredOfBsToo

          I treat what Israel says the same way I treat what the government of the US says. 99.99% bs. If the US or Israel states they are responding to an attack, the translation is that they themselves initiated an attack. Both governments are avid liars and practice projection and strong propaganda.

          For the sake of argument, let’s assume that what this Ex-defense? minister stated is truth. Right now the terrorists are busy trying to destroy Syria and are happy to have Israel bomb the Syrian army. After the war is over, and that won’t be to much longer, what will those terrorists, who are extremist and believe that even adherents of their own religion should be killed because they don’t believe exactly the same way, think of those that are sitting on the other side of the hill?

          • Omega

            I agree with you. I only meant to say that ISIS is on the side of the Anglo-American-Israelis and their “allies”.

            The terrorists were recruited, paid, armed, trained and have been supported by those who seek the destruction of Syria. So far, they haven’t gone against their masters. I suppose that if they tried, they were conveniently discarded by drone strikes.

          • TiredOfBsToo

            Agreed. I remember seeing the videos of long Isis convoys crossing open desert while taking Syrian territory and all under the watchful eye of the ‘coalition’. Those long convoys tended to disappear once the Russians came in to actually fight terrorism.

    • Kawa Asinger

      Israel has the capabilities to wipe the floor with the middle east, but they don’t need to. A strong person knows their strength and has nothing to prove. If Hezbullah and SAA and Egypt were so keen on fighting Israel they would have declared war long time ago, but they don’t because they know they’re weak. Same goes for Iran.

      • Omega

        Yet …

        IsraHell’s IAF, IDF and 15,000+ of its army reserve troops could not destroy Hezbollah in 2006 – and that, with the support of the US.

        • Kawa Asinger

          US support? I don’t think so. Look what the US did to Syria and its Iranian backers. If it weren’t for Russia, both Iran and Syria (aslo Hezbullah, Fatimiyoon Brigade and so on) would’ve lost. It was Israel vs. Lebanon. The Lebanese Infrastructure was completely demolished. And Hezbullah lost more fighter than the IDF. No one won the war.

          • Omega

            What you and I think is irrelevant. Only facts matter.

            • The US very much so supported IsraHell in the war it waged against Hezbollah/Lebanon.

            1. With reconnaissance missions:

            WikiLeaks also exposed that the U.S. flew U-2 reconnaissance missions over Hezbollah positions in Lebanon, known as “Operation Cedar Sweep,” and used a British airbase in Cyprus to do so.

            2. Resupplying IsraHell when it has gone through its ammunition in the first 10 days:

            July 22 also marks the first time that the United States responded militarily to the conflict. Late on the day of the 21st, the White House received a request from Olmert and the IDF for the provision of large amounts of precision-guided munitions–another telltale sign that the IAF had failed in its mission to degrade Hezbollah military assets significantly during the opening rounds of the war.

            Treacherous elements with the Lebanese government (Elias Murr) were also complicit:

            Two years after the war’s end we now learn, thanks to WikiLeaks, that Lebanese Defense Minister and Deputy Prime Minister Elias Murr gave Israel strategic military advice on how to finish the job.

            • I find it interesting that you squeal “straw man argumentL (when there was none) but then go on bybpulling one yourself. What the US did to Syria and/or Iran is irrelevant here.

            • Like a spoiled, obnoxious kid who goes on breaking everything in the room after being told “no”; the infrastructure, unrelated to the war, was attacked by IsraHell after they couldn’t defeat Hezbollah:

            The request was quickly approved and the munitions were shipped to Israel beginning on the morning of July 22. Senior Pentagon officials were dismayed by the shipment, as it meant that Israel had expended most of its munitions in the war’s first 10 days–an enormous targeting expenditure that suggested Israel had abandoned tactical bombing of Hezbollah assets and was poised for an onslaught on what remained of Lebanon’s infrastructure

            • The IDF claimed Hezbollah lost 400-500 Hezbollah fighters but there were 184 Hezbollah funerals.

            . Israel now claims that it killed about 400-500 Hezbollah fighters, while its own losses were significantly less. But a more precise accounting shows that Israeli and Hezbollah casualties were nearly even. It is impossible for Shi’ites (and Hezbollah) not to allow an honorable burial for its martyrs, so in this case it is simply a matter of counting funerals. Fewer than 180 funerals have been held for Hezbollah fighters–nearly equal to the number killed on the Israeli side.

            There again, the IDF also said they were wining against Hezbollah when the Mossad said the contrary.

            On July 28, the severity of Israel’s intelligence failures finally reached the Israeli public. On that day, Mossad officials leaked information that, by their estimate, Hezbollah had not suffered a significant degradation in its military capabilities, and that the organization might be able to carry on the conflict for several more months. The IDF disagreed, stating that Hezbollah had been severely damaged. The first cracks in the Israeli intelligence community were beginning to show.

            • You claim “no one won the war” but you should consider two things: 1. That it it was IsraHell who planned the war as early as January of 2006 and 2. It was IsraHell who had, therefore, objectives to reach. Let’s see if IsraHell has reached its objectives:

            On July 12 and after Hezbollah captured IDF soldiers at a border post, the IAF launched its bombing campaign. The IAF believed the destruction of Hezbollah would take couple days. Some Israeli ministers believed it could be done in a day.

            On July 18 and after the IAF could not destroy Hezbollah, Ehud Olmert deployed the “full might of the IDF”. This came to be despite Olmert’s advisors signaled Israel’s willingness to cease-fire.

            On July 21 and after the IDF could not achieve the objective of destroying Hezbollah, Olmert called in the reserve army. The Pentagon knew then that the war was not going well for Israel.

            On July 22, Olmert called the US for help. Israel needed munition – large amounts of precision-guided missiles. The Pentagon realized Israel had used most of its munitions and still could not destroy Hezbollah after ten consecutive days of intensive bombing.

            On July 22, the IDF entered the town of Maroun al-Ras but they were unable to capture it. The Nasr Brigade pushed them out.

            On July 24, realizing they could not defeat Hezbollah, Israel did what it does best: crimes. It cluster bombed the south of Lebanon and went after destroying civilian infrastructures unrelated to the war. Many of the infrastructures were in Christian towns. Needless to say, those Christians no longer support Israel.

            On July 25, destroying Hezbollah was no longer the objective. It was replaced with creating a “security zone”.

            On July 26, the IDF admitted that their battle in Bint Jbail was the hardest. After they failed to capture the town with the IDF, they sent their elite troops, the Golani Brigade. Nine of them died, twenty two others were wounded. The town was not captured.

            On July 26, Israel retried capturing the town of Maroun al-Ras with paratroopers but after three days, failed again.

            On July 27, Israel called up three more reserve divisions (15,000 troops) after they failed to capture any cities.

            By July 28, the IAF realized it was unable to stop Hezbollah’s rockets – 4000+ of them were fired. Some even reached Afula.

            On July 28, the Mossad leaked information to the Israeli Publix stating that Hezbollah had not suffered significant degradation of its military and that they could go on fighting for months.

            In August and before the implementation of the cease-fire, Israel tried to secure a “security zone” south of the Litani but the paratroopers were surrounded by Hezbollah.

            ___

            How Hezbollah defeated Israel
            https://www.counterpunch.org/2006/10/13/how-hezbollah-defeated-israel-2/

            The Story of Elias Murr, Saboteur
            https://www.counterpunch.org/2010/12/10/the-story-of-elias-murr-saboteur/

      • dontlietome

        Oh another moron……………..with the right name “ASS inger” ………says it all.

        • Kawa Asinger

          You need a doctor, you’re too delusional.

    • Brother Ma

      Why cant syria fire on israel?

      • EmilyEnso

        Indeed.
        Israel is illegally occupying part of Syria.

  • François

    IDF are liars and mafia mentality people, they invent reasons to support terrorism in Syria by attacking SAA

    • Kawa Asinger

      Just like Syria armed and trained the PKK against Turkey.

  • Real Anti-Racist Action

    One must first understand their enemy before the are able to defend themselves from the enemies aggressive assaults on their population. Perhaps Henry Ford can better explain.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9FyPITUIAARn4J.jpg

  • Jordan Katz

    Netanyahu doesn’t care about his own people. If he kicks off WWIII Tel-Aviv will suffer the same fate as D.C., Moscow, London, etc. I really hope the citizens of Israel will realize this and oust that chicken hawk a$$hole before it’s too late…

  • goingbrokes

    Israelis are cowards, and watching their cowardly actions just makes me puke. It is a nation without moral or integrity, and insanity reigns there behind a wall of illegally proliferated nuclear weapons. IAEA Inspectors to Israel now!

  • Boris Kazlov

    Wtf is Russia doing about this, shame

    • Omega

      It’s another provocation. IsraHell is desperate.

    • Rodger

      This is great anti-Israel PR. Their best action is to not respond with force but with UN complaints. Israel is losing much support by helping the terrorists. You can hardly complain about a few knife attacks when you are blowing up troops fighting real terrorism. At least not without being laughed at straight in your face.

      • dutchnational

        You can very easily when they shoot at you.

        They even have a word for it : self defense.

        • Rodger

          They see 2 groups fighting and shoot at 1 of them. That’s not self defense. If they had determined who had shot the rounds that landed in the piece of occupied land they would have a better case but they take pains not to investigate that.

        • dontlietome

          There REALLY is something wrong with you…………….. do we put it down to too many hours in Koffie shops ??????? Your ability to perceive what is right and wrong is totally perverse, but you would be at home in a satanic worship…………….perhaps you are a paedophile ????

  • EmilyEnso

    A blatant act of war.
    Why is it not before the Security Council?.
    One can only ssume that Syria is just taking the blows and not responding to the provocation until it has finished its current business of ISIS and other terrorists.
    They are, after all, Israeli sponsored terrorists and Israel is clearly seeking to divert Syrian attention away from them so they can regroup.
    Syria is too smart to play that game.

  • John Whitehot

    do they target nusra cannons as well?

    because if i were a raghead at this point i’ll point my mortars and gun on israeli territory so the IDF would target SAA assets in return.

    fucking hypocrites.

    • Jordan Katz

      Tht’s exactly what they do. Lob a few mortars into the Golan area, and get free air support in return. Fucking disgusting. And then they have the nerve to call Hezbollah “Terrorists”.

  • Anti_Globalista

    Israel is protecting their ground ISIS troups. Business as usual. Question is how long before their agenda of taking Syrian teritories using ISIS terrorists is fully exposed.

  • Rodger

    ISISDF…

  • RichardD

    Look at whose the latest anti America First activist:

    “Tom Steyer launches $10 million campaign to impeach Trump”

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/20/politics/tom-steyer-ad-impeach-trump/index.html

    “Thomas Fahr Steyer (born June 27, 1957) is an American hedge fund manager, philanthropist, environmentalist, liberal activist, and fundraiser. …

    Tom Steyer was born in 1957 in Manhattan.[9] His mother, Marnie (née Fahr), was a teacher of remedial reading at the Brooklyn House of Detention, and his father, Roy Henry Steyer, was a partner in the New York law firm of Sullivan & Cromwell.[10][11] His father was Jewish”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Steyer

  • RichardD

    The occupied Golan is Syrian territory. The Jews shouldn’t be there.

  • ‘Beyond the tit-for-tat of “who started it” many are busy debating, it is crucial to emphasize that Israel has illegally occupied the Palestinian territories for many decades, is actively engaging in land theft through illegal settlement expansion, and is imposing a system of apartheid. Under those circumstances, Israel’s very posture is offensive, and it cannot claim to be engaging in “self-defense” against the very people whose land it has illegally usurped.

    To personalize this for a moment, imagine a bully sitting on a smaller child, and every time someone objects to the fact that the bully is beating the smaller child with an iron rod, the bully exclaims, “Well, he tried to slap me, so I was forced to defend myself.” No, you can’t claim that you’re beating the smaller child with an iron rod in self-defense, especially when you can end the entire confrontation simply by getting off him. Back to the political reality, Norman Finkelstein put it best: “The refrain that Israel has the right to self-defense is a red herring: the real question is, does Israel have the right to use force to maintain an illegal occupation? The answer is no.” [Alternet]

  • 888mladen .

    Zionist entity feels its approaching doom.

  • Floyd Hazzard

    Pantsir-S1’s can’t be that expensive that you leave your hardware exposed like that. Who’s outfitting these troops, Gomer Pyle?

  • Lex

    Love the little yellow star of the IDF twitter – echoes of the good old days? Three cannon – oh no! Stop it please!

  • Leon De Elias

    Motherfucking Fascist Aggressors,terrorists..Thats what they are..They thought that after Libya the World going to ignore what they are doing in Syria Iraq and elsewhere..Well we do not forget even Palestine..I would say Syria would be the last nail in Israel’s coffin..and the end of the US Imperial might..