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Israel To “Suffer Substantial Casualties” In Case Of Confrontation With Hezbollah – Russia’s Ambassador In Lebanon

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Israel To "Suffer Substantial Casualties" In Case Of Confrontation With Hezbollah - Russia’s Ambassador In Lebanon

July 29, 2017 photo, a Hezbollah fighter stands at a watchtower at the site where clashes erupted between Hezbollah and al-Qaida-linked fighters in Wadi al-Kheil or al-Kheil Valley in the Lebanon-Syria border. (AP Photo/Bilal Hussein)

Ambassador of the Russian Federation to Lebanon Alexander Zasypkin said that currently the situation in Lebanon is under control, and that Moscow does not expect military escalation there.

Zasypkin added that in the case of a new military action against Lebanon-based Hezbollah organization, Israel will “suffer substantial casualties”.

Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Hariri resigned on November 4 in a declaration read from Saudi Arabia, pushing Lebanon back to the forefront of a regional struggle between Saudi Arabia and Iran. In his resignation speech, Hariri denounced Iran and the Lebanese Shi‘ite group Hezbollah for sowing strife in Arab states and said he feared assassination. Iran denied the accusations, saying the United States and Saudi Arabia are responsible for orchestrating the resignation.

Tensions are rapidly escalating between Hezbollah and Saudi Arabia/Israel. Some experts even believe that the region may be heading to another conflict.

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jerry hamilton

That will piss Netanyahu off. Unless someone stops him, he will do something really stupid.


Not really Israel only does things as long as they have US support be it public or silent. Israels survival depends on the US keeping the Saudis and Egyptian in line.

jerry hamilton

Look how fast the American government got behind Israel over the USS Liberty. The only thing I trust America to do is wage war and kill people. Usually because Israel wants it.

Tiresia Branding

ops, seems someone is not afraid of americans… http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-10/dramatic-footage-bahrain-oil-pipeline-explodes-bursts-giant-flames


I have never seen that man make ‘stupid mistakes’. He may do things we do not like but You should never underestimate your enemy, and to think of him as stupid will not lend itself to defeating his way of thinking.

jerry hamilton

He made a few during his last election. “Bus loads of Arabs about to vote”, Israeli’s don’t like being lied to. They like to be the ones doing the lying. They feel in control that way.


That will piss Netanyahu off.

When is Mileikowsky ever not on the rag? The belligerent little bitch is permanently pre-menstrual.

jerry hamilton

Ahhh. A friend of Theodor Herzl. Now he planned the holocaust in the late 1800’s. That is why there were so many instances of the word holocaust and 6 million before 1945. They started in 1900. http://balder.org/judea/Six-Million-140-Occurrences-Of-The-Word-Holocaust-And-The-Number-6,000,000-Before-The-Nuremberg-Trials-Began.php


Who was a friend of Theodor Herzl?

jerry hamilton



Nathan Mileikowsky?

jerry hamilton

Yes. The Grand daddy but he personally had no hand in organising the holocaust, that I know of.


I’ll have to read up on this, I had no idea!


Muslims fear NOT death, Israelis and Us Americans FEAR DEATH, so if a big war starts, how can Israeli’s win ? Atomic bombs will kill the whole area with Radiation. Better both sides come to an agreement, perhaps Israel return the lands they have stolen from the Palestinians..?

jerry hamilton

Yes but Israel has the Samson Option thanks to America.


Samson Option is a myth created by (((them))) to scare the Goyim from rising up against (((their))) oppression. As insane as they are they do not want to destroy the entire world they themselves live in, they just want to control the world. The people of Iran rose up and kicked out the kike scum from Iran, there was no “Samson” option, sure Iran has been under economic pressure but the world wasn’t destroyed. The more Goyim nations rise up against them the faster their demise will be.

jerry hamilton

I hope you’re right. It certainly stopped me firing nukes at them.


BL, you are wrong about the Jews being ‘kicked out ‘ of Iran ( Persia). Jews have lived in harmony there since 722 BC. They live there out of choice and even Israeli promises of money has not tempted them to leave. They have good jobs and full representation in Parliament. There are about 15,000 Jewish citizens in Iran today. Real Jews, not the Khazar pretenders.



Sorry I meant to say kicked out of positions of power. Yes there are some Jews still living in Iran but their overall numbers is significantly less than pre-1979. Before the revolution the CIA and Mossad were practically running the country, the Shah was just a ceremonial figure. The Jews were intentionally put in key positions of power. The deputy of SAVAK (Iran’s secret police) was a kike Jew by the name of “Parviz Sabeti” who oversaw countless tortures, murders, and brutal crackdowns on any type of political opposition within the country. Today the Jews don’t hold any positions of power or influence other than a Parliament seat.

I’m not saying all Jews were/are evil but even today a significant portion of Iranian Jews are against the current Iranian government.


Jews have always been used as willing servants to collect taxes etc, as in Spain during Muslim rule. The Inquisition was retribution toward the Jews after the Muslims left Spain. Many fled to France to escape the summary justice.

Solomon Krupacek

Jews have lived in harmony there since 722 BC

you are big liar, commie


Muslims fear NOT death…

Don’t be silly, everyone ultimately fears death.

jerry hamilton

No. To some, the right death is a gateway to the ultimate heaven.

Frane Frlan

It certainly does not provide the optimal soldiers. Especially in survival situations.

jerry hamilton

They don’t want to survive. They want to sit next to their God. These people have nothing except religion. They are happy, blessed to die for their god.

Look at it another way…. If America was attacked mercilessly, would Americans not fight back?

Frane Frlan

I’m very familiar with religious perception of certain people, but sorry, I do not see the point, or the value of an army of soldiers which do not want to survive. So, from believers point of view, when they have nothing except God, their faith is in the God’s hands, 100%. Whatever they do, they destiny is not in their hands. They cannot choose in God’s name, because it’s blasphemy. And it leads to the cults of death. Like IS is. Sacrificing for the any type of cause is something else, but in religious terms more suffering and strangling before Good’s final decision gives one more blessing and value in the eyes of God.

jerry hamilton

Exactly. The best they can do with their life is to die for their god. I don’t understand it but I know it is the way of many of them. Fighting anyone that opposes them pleases their god. Dying while fighting them is a supreme sacrifice that makes them a martyr.


No. To some, the right death is a gateway to the ultimate heaven.

If this is just some retarded 72-virgins-for-the-martyrs horseshit you can fuck off with that Zionist crap.

jerry hamilton

You really should use your brain rather than your hatred. I know nothing about 72 virgins but my statement is widely known. Where do you think suicide bombers come from?

Solomon Krupacek

Muslims fear NOT death,

we saw this, when saa and iraqi soldiers ran before isis like rabbits :DD

Simon Gould

I love this kind of talk – a simple statement of the fate that awaits them.


The days where Israel can impose its will have ended. Israeli aggression will be responded with a cyclone of missiles on Tel Aviv, Haifa and Jerusalem. For Hezbollah, Israel is target rich.


America, NATO, Israel and KSA have no wish to see peace in Lebanon.


Mr Trump does NOT want Israel wiped off the map! Yes Yes , he was fooled with the false flag gas attack, but the man learns fast and he will not make that mistake again.


I wish he did want Israel erased :) The world would be a lot more peaceful.

You can call me Al

Agreed – the Saudi Arabia.


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Solomon Krupacek

yes, with 20 km range missiles


2000km! Accurate within 7 metres! GET lT RlGHT!

Solomon Krupacek


you made my day! :DD

You can call me Al

God bless the missiles – don’t forget Palestine (PLO) joining in, maybe Syria, Iraq, Egypt +++.

+ economic boycott that are trying to stop.

PS No missiles on Jerusalem, that will defeat the object for all of us..

Solomon Krupacek

nuke jrusalaim!


are you insane ?

Solomon Krupacek

no. destroy this sin city + mekka. and the game is over.


Zionist ,thy name is, Solomon


I must rise to Solomon’s defense. I don’t think Solomon is a zionist troll. English is not his first language, and he tends toward extreme bluntness. Solomon is, well, Solomon, and like dark beer he’s an acquired taste.


Only a Zionist could say NUKE Jerusalem, versus nuking the ROOT and HOME city for Rothschild and Zionism,Tel Aviv and then Mecca ( his spelling is a bit off) the HOLY city for Muslims

ONLY Zionists, Evangelical Christians and other dolts and misguided could hate Muslims

Muslims are NOT the problem Zionist ASHKENAZI Jews are.

I ‘m Atheist ,by-the-way, which allows me to be OBJECTIVE and HONEST about all religions and their biases

I’ll keep an eye on his future comments though, but I suspect I am correct.

Mauro Craizer

Talmud and Quran both are violent and bigoted ideologies. Western world should ban usage of the word “religion” for every violent and bigoted ideology which undermines individual rights. Period. Zionists and true followers of Islam are cancer. Also SJWs and 3rd wave Feminists. Let’s be honest, “liberals” like the name “moderate Muslims”-they are kafirs-penalty is death, wherever in the w. world Muslim population reaches more than 10%(or more), more than half of them (or more) are for implementation of the Sharia Law. That’s a fact, they don’t want to assimilate, they want to destroy western culture, just like mentally challenged SJWs, Antifa, BAMN and other brainwashed marxists. They all follow ideologies not compatible with western culture. I would defund completely not ban all liberal academia, all those “modern social and gender studies”. They are teaching children to be inside enemies on tax payer expense. Without tax payer $ they are doomed.


Here is an English translation of the QUR’AN : http://www.islam101.com/quran/yusufAli/

Please find and QUOTE for me withe the EXACT LOCATION and in CONTEXT exactly what you say, negatively about Islam

I am not interested in ARGUING.Either show me the PROOF or move on from me.

Mauro Craizer

‘Keeeey….here you go- https://windsorcoactforamerica.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/violent-koran-verses.jpg


First of all there is no such “thing” as the Koran”. that is the Jewish American way of insulting the QUR’AN by creating your own spelling and version and you know that.

SECOND of all you have not been specific with LOCATION and CONTEXT and THIRD of all, HERE is what is CONTEXT and EXACT location:

Talmudic Doctrine: “Non-Jews are not Human” ?

The Talmud specifically defines all who are not Jews as non-human animals, and specifically dehumanizes gentiles as not being descendants of Adam. Listing some of the Talmudic passages which relate to this topic:

“The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts.” Talmud, Baba mezia, 114b

“The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honour the dog more than the non-Jew.” Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30

“Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therefore he will be served by animals in human form.” Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855

“A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal.” Coschen hamischpat 405

“The souls of non-Jews come from impure spirits and are called pigs.” Jalkut Rubeni adol 12b

“Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human.” Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b

“If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog.” Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b

“If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell the Jew: “God will replace ‘your loss’, just as if one of his oxen or asses had died”.” Jore dea 377, 1

“Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between animals.” Talmud Sanhedrin 74b

“It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile.” Sepher ikkarim III c 25

“It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah.” Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5

“A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands.” Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b

“Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God.” Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772

How does a Jew prepare for his crime?

Moed Kattan 17a . If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.

Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God?

Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.

O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews ?

Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile (“Cuthean”) the wages owed him for work.

Jews Have Superior Legal Status ?

Baba Kamma 37b. “If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite…the payment is to be in full.”

Jews May Steal from Non-Jews

Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile (“heathen”) it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who “marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean…”

Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews ?

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile (“Cuthean”), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has “exposed their money to Israel.”

Jews May Lie to Non-Jews ?

Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies (“subterfuges”) to circumvent a Gentile.

Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human?

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

Lies of a Roman Holocaust ?

Here are two early “Holocaust” tales from the Talmud: Gittin 57b. Claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans. (Ancient demography indicates that there were not 16 million Jews in the entire world at that time, much less 16 million Jewish children or four billion Jews…. that tells us about today’s modern Jew’s lies about those 6 million Jews killed by Nazis ?????

A Revealing Admission?

Abodah Zarah 70a. The question was asked of the rabbi whether wine stolen in Pumbeditha might be used or if it was defiled, due to the fact that the thieves might have been gentiles (a gentile touching wine would make the wine unclean). The rabbi says not to worry, that the wine is permissible for Jewish use because the majority of the thieves in Pumbeditha, the place where the wine was stolen, are Jews. (Also cf. Gemara Rosh Hashanah 25b).

Genocide Advocated by the Talmud ?

Minor Tractates. Soferim 15, Rule 10. This is the saying of Rabbi Simon benYohai: Tob shebe goyyim harog (“Even the best of the gentiles should all be killed”).

This passage is from the original Hebrew of the Babylonian Talmud as quoted by the 1907 Jewish Encyclopedia, published by Funk and Wagnalls and compiled by Isidore Singer, under the entry, “Gentile,” (p. 617).

This original Talmud passage has been concealed in translation. The Jewish Encyclopedia states that, “…in the various versions the reading has been altered, ‘The best among the Egyptians’ being generally substituted.” In the Soncino version: “the best of the heathens” (Minor Tractates, Soferim 41a-b].

Israelis annually take part in a national pilgrimage to the grave of Simon ben Yohai, to honor this rabbi who advocated the extermination of non-Jews. (Jewish Press, June 9, 1989, p. 56B).

On Purim, Feb. 25, 1994, Israeli army officer Baruch Goldstein, an orthodox Jew from Brooklyn, massacred 40 Palestinian civilians, including children, while they knelt in prayer in a mosque. Goldstein was a disciple of the late Brooklyn Rabbi Meir Kahane, who told CBS News that his teaching that Arabs are “dogs” is derived “from the Talmud.” (CBS 60 Minutes, “Kahane”).

University of Jerusalem Prof. Ehud Sprinzak described Kahane and Goldstein’s philosophy: “They believe it’s God’s will that they commit violence against goyim, a Hebrew term for non-Jews.” (NY Daily News, Feb. 26, 1994, p. 5).

Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg declared, “We have to recognize that Jewish blood and the blood of a goy are not the same thing.” (NY Times, June 6, 1989, p.5).

Rabbi Yaacov Perrin said, “One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail.” (NY Daily News, Feb. 28, 1994, p.6).

Moses Maimonides: Advocate of Extermination

“Moses Maimonides is considered the greatest codifier and philosopher in Jewish history. He is often affectionately referred to as the Rambam, after the initials of his name and title, Rabenu Moshe Ben Maimon, “Our Rabbi, Moses son of Maimon.” [Maimonides’ Principles, edited by Aryeh Kaplan, Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America,, p. 3].

Here is what Maimonides (Rambam) taught concerning saving people’s lives, especially concerning saving the lives of gentiles and Christians, or even Jews who dared to deny the “divine inspiration” of the Talmud:

Maimonides, Mishnah Torah, (Moznaim Publishing Corporation, Brooklyn, New York, 1990, Chapter 10, English Translation), p. 184: “Accordingly, if we see an idolater (gentile) being swept away or drowning in the river, we should not help him. If we see that his life is in danger, we should not save him.” The Hebrew text of the Feldheim 1981 edition of Mishnah Torah states this as well, Immediately after Maimonides’ admonition that it is a duty for Jews not to save a drowning or perishing gentile, he informs us of the Talmudic duty of Jews towards Goyim, and also towards Jews who deny the Talmud. Maimonides, Mishnah Torah, (Chapter 10), p. 184:

“It is a mitzvah [religious duty], however, to eradicate Jewish traitors, minnim, and apikorsim, and to cause them to descend to the pit of destruction, since they cause difficulty to the Jews and sway the the people away from God, as did Jesus of Nazareth and his students, and Tzadok, Baithos, and their students. ( As an Atheist, these don’t stir my emotions at all, but for Christians and Muslims, this should make them think) “

Do those apparent Musings, Mythologies, scribblings and/or inanities sound FAMILIAR?

I know they made me think of Al Qaeda, ISIS, ISIL, also known as TAKFIRI or Wahhabiists but those mercenaries ( oops, I mean “resistance fighters” ;-) ) are supposed to be Muslim !!!

We all know ( or should know) that Al Qaeda was a creation of the CIA ( to fight the Russians in Afghanistan), so could the TAKFIRI, Al Nusrah, ISIS etc. be a creation(s) of MOSSAD, to stir up and divide Muslims ???

Those groups DEFINITELY sound more like the TALMUDIC supremacist idiots, than TRUE Muslims. IN fact in all my rebuttals to Christians and Jews, who tell me how “evil” Muslims are and so confirmed in the QUR’AN ( they mean “Koran”) ..(so they say)……… I am YET to receive EVIDENCE with EXACT QUOTES and locations in the Islamic HOLY book from those DISINFORMATION Fundamentalist Jewish and Christian trolls.

When you understand the TALMUD can ANYONE be surprised by the BARBARITY of the Israeli Government, soldiers and the attitude and support by Israeli citizens for the SLAUGHTER of Palestinians, especially , women and children???

It is my conclusion that present-day Israeli “Jews” have decided they MUST either remove or murder ALL Palestinians because they are LIVING PROOF, that the MAJORITY of Jews who have stolen Palestinian land are not the SEMITIC Jews mentioned in the various religious texts but are KHAZAR converts to Judaism ( Zionists) and that PALESTINIANS, who ARE Semitic, were the ACTUAL Inhabitants, of the land, since ROMAN TIMES, they now call Israel, when those European KHAZAR/Zionist Jews INVADED.

The ONLY Semitic Jews were already there on Palestinian land, living in harmony with the Semitic Palestinians, Christians, Muslims and other Semitic Arabs.

NOTHING in the QUR’AN even compares to this ZIONIST , HATE, IGNORANCE and Barbarity and biblical nonsense, whic is following.

Here are LINKS to MORE about the TALMUD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quTXwTjgfc0



For the more RELIGIOUS, TRUE Semitic Jews were BLACK. not white



and here is the BIBLE in CONTEXT and with LOCATIONS:

EVIL of the BIBLE which compares to the JEWISH TALMUD:

Some of the things in the Bible that have caused many of us to take a closer look at who and what we have been taught to worship. (Don’t take my word for it, open your bible and look it up yourself)

“This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: Strap on your swords! Go back and forth from one end of the camp to the other, killing even your brothers, friends, and neighbors.” (Exodus 32:26-29 NLT)

But that whoever would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman. 2 Chronicles 15:13

Exodus 22:20 NAB: Kill believers of other religions; Exodus 32:26-29 NLT: Moses commands: Kill your sons, brothers and neighbors to win God’s blessing; Philippians 2:10: Everyone will have to worship Jesus – whether they want to or not; 2 Kings 10:18-27: God orders the murder of all worshipers of a different god in their own church; Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT: Kill the entire village if one person prays to another god; Romans 1:24-32 NLT: Infidels and homosexuals must die; Exodus 31:12-15 NLT: Anyone who works on Sundays should die.

God sends himself to die for himself to allow himself to change a rule he created himself. (Jesus, New Testament)

Humans are Fuel for Fire (Ezekiel 21:33-37 NAB)

Burn Nonbelievers (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)

Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)

More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)

Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)

David’s Punishment – Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing, and God’s “Forgiveness” (2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB)

Rape of Female Captives (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)

Rape and the Spoils of War (Judges 5:30 NAB)

Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

God Assists Rape and Plunder (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)

Slaves are clearly property to be bought and sold like livestock (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

How Hebrew slaves are to be treated (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)

It is moral to sell your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

Abraham preparing to sacrifice his son to God (Genesis 22:1-18)

Kill first-born humans and animals (Exodus 13:2)

More human sacrifice (Leviticus 27:28-29)

Jephthah Burns His Daughter (Judges 11:29-40 NLT)

God Commands Burning Humans (Joshua 7:15 NLT)

Josiah and Human Sacrifice (1 Kings 13:1-2 NLT) (2 Kings 23:20-25 NLT)

Human Sacrifice (Wisdom 3:5-7 NAB The Book of The Wisdom of Solomon is mostly in Catholic versions of the Bible.)

Child Sacrifice (Wisdom 14:21-23 RSV The Book of The Wisdom of Solomon is mostly in Catholic versions of the Bible. This passage condemns human sacrifice but acknowledges that it did happen by early God worshipers.)

I wont keep going on because I am sure you GET THE POINT


Please find and QUOTE for me the the EXACT TEXT with LOCATION and in CONTEXT from the QUR’AN exactly what you say, negatively about Islam, which compares to the Psychopathic EVIL of the TALMUD

Why are you trying to compare apples and oranges? Shouldn’t the comparison you’re inviting be between the Talmud and the Hadith?


No, but thanks for you input


Okay, maybe not the Hadith.

The Talmud is basically a collection of glorified rabbinic fatwas in codified form. Is there an equivalent in Islam?


Check for yourself: http://www.islam101.com/quran/yusufAli/


The is almost none differences in-between the Torah, Bible and Quran, they just copy each-others


The QUR’AN does not compare with the evil of either. Here is an English trans. : http://www.islam101.com/quran/yusufAli/

and NO, I am not Muslim, which is why I can be more objective


Have a look at the Old Testament, can’t eat Pork, women has to be lapidate…

Mohammad choose some Surat to please the Hebrew tribe with the hope they will joined him…

Anyway I didn’t want to enter into a controversy I didn’t care at all, for something I am not interested, very happy to be Atheist since 1968… Protestant is my family Culture since Calvin, if there is a dogma, it’s none intolerance !

For me, the “Jesus”(if existed) interesting message is to share, and to protect the poor and weak.

Everybody should have access to a decent life, went into law in the European most developed places !

Every forme of violence is unacceptable ! Islam meaning is Peace and Love ! God is beautiful and love beauty, say a Surat



Tommy Jensen

Talmud says the Quran says so. Because Israel is the only democratic and free country in ME it must be true when Talmud says it about the Quran.


You were being sarcastic, I take it?


The Antique Greece banned “Death Penalty” at the V Century BC, and replaced it by Ostracisme !

Death Penalty is a Dark-Ages Barbaric practice !

Geneva abolished Death Penalty in 1860 !

Social Services were voted in 1535 Mandatory School for all were voted in 1536…

Some Societies are more delayed than others (lol)


Spirit, not everyone is as aware as you are. Some people are writing outside of their native language, and some people, though they mean well, are ignorant of the subject. Some people (Like me) get really pissed off, and write things that they would like to take back, but are too proud to back down. I went after Solomon several times, and then I made a real effort to understand him. Strangely enough, I found that he has a kind, and considerate side. With that I’m not saying that I don’t think he’s nuts, but who am I to judge.

I’m a Nordic Pagan. You know, the old Gods. The Gods who worked for my people for eons before strangers came from the deserts of the Middle East, and messed things up. Sometimes, when I’m alone, and talking with my ancestors, I realize that the desert religions are what got us into the mess we’re in today. I have philosophical differences with atheism, but I’ve found atheists to generally be pleasant, and understanding people who haven’t let the dogmas of religion damage their humanity.

When it comes to the Ashkenazim I think their Old Testament holds the key, “Kill them all lest they be as a thorn in your eye, and a vexation forever.”


You seem like a man of REASON, as am I.


What news from Odin ?

The Greek Mythology and the Torah 700 BC bad copy were found by Archeologists on Sumerians cuneiform clay tablets 3’000 BC Herodotus, the Middle East best and most credible reference lived only 50 years after the King Salomon supposed death, but never mention him, as well as his Great Kingdom… none cuneiform, Hieroglyph, and Greek writing mention him, as well as for the King David ! Hebrew became monotheist about 200 BC, at the times of Pharaon Agamemnon monotheism… The Old Testament is a Torah copy, the Quran is a Torah and Bible copy… Religions Historians believe monotheism is at Djihad, Crusades, Inquisition, Nazism, Communism and Zionism exclusion spirits origins !


As an Atheist I KNOW that Life, Liberty and Property OWNERSHIP are most important and must be protected for ALL Human Beings – no exceptions based on Race, Religion or Culture

Solomon Krupacek

what is this? shakespeare?


Avoiding my point?

Your evasion is only providing more proof that my assertion about you, is correct

Trolls and ZIONISTS do that


That’s evil

Solomon Krupacek

a call: final peace


Solomon is not insane. Solomon is intense, very intense.


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We should maybe understand that destroying Israel will not get rid of the real targets, same with destroying Washington or London maybe.. We should remember that this evil will have no problem to sacrifice the fake land of Israel as they will just spread their tentacles to other green pastures and open a few banks and corrupt a few more governments from within. (Hi USA and most of Europe). Don`t we think they have already been setting up camp in Africa and the Far East for some time in preparation. They have no conscience, no regard for Human suffering and for sure no `soul`. They just follow their written NWO plan. More crazy stuff to come but eventually they will die like the bloated blood filled parasites they are. Humanity awakes however and they are becoming a little scared. Tick tock………….


They will be PURGED ..The PURGE of THE KHAZARIAN MAFIA was what you saw in SAUDI ARABIA and next will be USA and then EUROPE



You can call me Al

??? Help please.


Hezbollah of course lack air defences but I am sure that this will have been taken into account and a system of dispersal of command , manpower and military assets is in place.

I hope the Israelis are not so foolish as to invade Lebanon again because of the casualties that will be inflicted there BUT if the Israeli’s do attack they deserve to lose tens of thousands of their soldiers and have their industries destroyed along with missile attacks on Dimona.

chris chuba

They have more air defenses now than they did in 2006. Iran manufactures MANPADs, I’m certain that they have given Hez many of those.

Israel is acting with such confidence that I’m worried that they are going to do something very evil, like use tactical nukes, or thermobaric bombs. I hope not, there is absolutely no reason to attack Lebanon, this is a naked war of aggression.


Couldn’t have said it better myself. Lebanon has done nothing to warrant this rhetoric from Israel. Hezbollah is defensive in nature as well.

Tommy Jensen

Hezbollah kicked Israel out from their new promised historical homeland in South Lebanon where Israel found a paradise of new shoes, underwears and socks inside the locals houses, thats why Israel hate South Lebanon.


Thermobaric missiles could easily fly the other way of course. The Israelis would be fried like a ‘kipper’ ( pun intended :)

You can call me Al

Kippers at breakfast, already boned.



With over 1m Arabs living freely in Israel all they need to do is give 10.000 kids lighters and squirt bottles with gasoline and tell them to all start small fires on a given moment. Open mailbox/window or puncture rear tire, squirt, light, move on. In big cities it would be like they had been firebombed like Dresden.

Solomon Krupacek

“I hope the Israelis are not so foolish as to invade Lebanon again because of the casualties that will be inflicted there BUT if the Israeli’s do attack they deserve to lose tens of thousands of their soldiers and have their industries destroyed along with missile attacks on Dimona.”

then you should be happy, commie :DDDD


jews are the commies :)

Tudor Miron

One thing that I’m not comfortable with is that those who are mastering this (yet to happen) aggression would not suffer themself. Deaths of their troops – they don’t really care about them (those who think that senior rabbis care about their sheeple are not in touch with reality) at all.

Real Anti-Racist Action

All of us can play our part in democratically securing the safety of Lebanese in the future using the internet and word of mouth and mass fliering. In the next round the internet will play out either world opinion in favor of Israel genociding Christians and Shia and Sunni of Lebanon, or world opinion will sway the world that Israel is in the wrong and there needs to be universal sanctions against Israel until they turn all Nuclear weapons over to the UN inspectors and pay reparations to the communities of Lebanon. http://ifamericaknew.org/


The world is definitely on the side of the victims of Zionist aggression – in terms of sheer numbers. The volume of the propaganda from “news” outlets in the UK, US and Western Europe, as well as their paid influence peddlers in the ME, are much louder than the actual support would warrant due to obscene wealth. Even formerly stalwart countries like NZ and UK are starting to balk at the sheer extent of Zionist Entity crimes – not to mention their brazen support of homicidal jihadists in Syria. I remember when the so-called “Christians” who support the ZE were claiming that we had to support the ZE because they would help to fight against the “Islamic terrorist threat’ – no sensible person still believes that nonsense after the war in Syria has shown the world who the ZE really supports. They want the Muslim world to look terrible, fanatical, and undemocratic to bolster their own claim to be the “most democratic” in the ME – but they are just as fanatical is the worst of the ISIS-types.

Serious Dude

Not to mention that the so called secular Arab regimes were allies with Wahhabists in wars against Israel. Not to mention that Israel supported Serbia and were against the bombings of NATO and have never recognized Kosovo.

Max Glazer

InsaneYahoo would have supported it wholeheartedly.


I fervently hope that Israel can be made accountable for their despicable actions.

You can call me Al

There is only one way !!.

Lazy Gamer

Well then, i hope that somebody develops virus cleaners in real time for all our sakes. You can be sure that if the tipping point for either opinion is reached, all our pcs will be targets. lol

The blowback from this might lead to more draconian measures against internet free speech just as can be seen from the russia collusion issue.

I hope that neither side gives in to any provocations from any source.


There are Reports now breaking of large increase in activity at Saudi Airbases as massive F-15 strike on Hezbollah is fixing to get underway.

*After watching Trump/Tillerson betray the Kurds in Iraq, the Saudis have lost faith in US and may very well strike Hezbollah.


Let’s hope they try and get blown out of the sky; let’s hope they try, get blown out of the sky and a zionist second strike goes the same way.


Big mistake by Iran to give missiles to Houti. Even Macron supports KSA. MbS is not going to let it go without responding.


Except that they didn’t give the Houthis any missiles. At least no evidence for that has yet been presented.

jerry hamilton

You are right. The lies never stops.


Plenty of evidence that they were Iranian missiles shot by Houti at Riyadh. Houti didn’t make them.


Why not? They’ve been operating the SCUD system for over 20 years and the system is almost 50 years old (These are modified SCUD-D’s). Any GPS phone of today can do what only super computers could do in those days. They could have gotten a ‘fly my rocket’-app by just paying some Chinese, American, Israeli or whatever kids to develop it (probably claiming it was for some hobby rockets). Iran could have given them the missiles but there is no need for it and no reason for Iran because the Houthis are doing just fine.

Tiresia Branding

where are the evidences!? please, link here your sources


Its an ‘unidentified source’ Tiresia . CNN and MSNBC have lots of them :)

Tiresia Branding

oh, the (in)famous Mr. “Anonimous Intelligence Source”, the brother of God…


He appears in the minds of US officials and media executives as they sleep with all the facts about Russian Hacking and Iranian aggression.

God only speaks to the Elite of the exceptional nation you know, for they are his disciples on Earth.


Based on what? Saudi claims about writing on the missile? It isn’t the high tech operation that people think it is to add satellite guidance to an ancient scud missile. GPS has been publicly available for purchase on open markets since the early nineties. You should be more surprised that it took this long to show up.


The Houthis actually do make their own missiles Kenneth and even if it was Iranian , so what ? The US supplies hundreds of billions of $ in weapons and ammo to the Saudi’s as does the UK. They also supply advisers and in flight re-fuelling etc .


Tiresia Branding

as usual


The US Military said that fragments had ‘Made in Iran’ on them. So it must be true :) American ‘Intelligence’ is Legion.

jerry hamilton

That’s strange. I normally print made in China on all of them.


MBS can’t do jack about it. The Saudis can’t even beat dirt-poor, militarily weak Yemen – what chance do they stand against the combined might of Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Turkey and Russia? None. This is just bluster – MBS has squandered the last of the Saudi wealth, and this is the reason for the purge. A great reckoning is coming, and once the false kingdom of the House of Saud falls, the rest of the be-robed, corrupt, and un-Islamic Emirs and Kings of the Gulf will fall too. All the US and Israeli support will not prevent this from happening. The peoples of the Arabian peninsula will be a raging inferno of revenge when they realise that all that wealth has been wasted on effete princes and jihadist projects, while the regular people get crumbs.


Yup, they are now feeding on themselves, nobody with any brain will leave a penny in their Saudi bank accounts and the economy will grind to a halt. In a few months it will be open civil war in Saudi Arabia. They might capture some of the rebellious princes but they can never catch them all. And they can’t kill the heads of the families either. Guards will be bought and a few of the smartest ones will slip away. I’m sure Iran would love to give them asylum but there are also loads of African countries for that.


Yes, its just a matter of time. MBS is sequestering circa eight hundred billion dollars from the arrested Royals. I suspect that the purge is to fill the Saudi coffers.


Are you saying the Houthis should just lie down and be exterminated along with their families who are dying in the worst cholera epidemic in recorded history and ALL due to the Saudi coalition bombing campaign of civilian infrastructure?

Solomon Krupacek

houtis are right. iran is right. houtis made only tactical mistake.

my opinion is, yemen shold be split to the former 2 yemen republics. thats all.


Interesting. Probably could split Yemen into 3 parts.

Solomon Krupacek

the etnical, religious border is at the former border between sorth and south yemen. if they dont want live together, should be split.


How did Iran give the Houtis missiles while Yemen is under a full blockade?

Solomon Krupacek

via oman


so is it a mistake for the russian to give scud missile to the houthi and Salleh faction of the Yemeni army?

Tiresia Branding

yes, and when return from the strikes they have no more bases to land, nor oil to refill. Saudi need to try the real iranian missiles taste?


If Iran directly attacks Saudi, things are going to escalate very quickly.

Tiresia Branding

sure, Saudi family must run very quickly before arabian shiites behead all of their


Lying Ziotroll Alert




Saad Hariri, the younger prime minister of Lebanon — a very suspicious character. One might wonder if he was complicit in the murder of his own father, the great Lebanese prime minister, whose death was falsely blamed on Syria, but was probably a deed of Mossad? After his father Rafic Hariri was assassinated, Syria was forced to withdraw from Lebanon, and this son Saad, born in Saudi Arabia, became Lebanese prime minister – and a billionaire to boot. If he was complicit in such a plot and parricide, then no plot could be too low down and dirty for such a son.

If he could help kill his own father, then no surprise if he helps start a war against his own country.

Tiresia Branding

really impressive, is not in the usual russian diplomatic style give this sort of advice

Solomon Krupacek

such speech had ruskies also before bekaa disaster :))))


This is (((Solomon Krupacek))) and (((dutchnational))) after reading this article:


Tiresia Branding


Solomon Krupacek



They look awful :)

Solomon Krupacek

hi, commie!


jews are commies, commie

jerry hamilton

They were the Bolsheviks that killed millions of Russians. Sad. As soon as we stopped Germany fighting communism, we decided to fight communism.


Germany was a capitalist’s weapon against socialism, in chapster 17 and 18 of his book Mein Kamp, Hitler practically begged the english to arm him so he could fight the sovjets.

P.S. Or was it 18 and 19 ?

jerry hamilton

Never read it. I wanted to but some versions were changed. I don’t know if there is a truthful English version. I believe a version of his second book is genuine.

Solomon Krupacek

Howdy, B(ig) L(oser)! :DDD


Before WW2, German Jews were too famous for their antipathetic attitudes and extreme unlimited abuses at the holocaust origins !


hahahah he is so fuckin right!!! it will be the last dumb military move israel ever makes. hezbollah is probably like 1000x stronger now than it was in 2006, zionists gotta be out of their fuckin minds to think they can take them on and win


We must not forget that Israel have F35’s now though, they are a game changer :)

They are in a video game anyway .


Haha I’m.not too worried about that. Didnt a Syrian S-200 damage one? Not to mention the other host of problems that plane is plagued with

Tiresia Branding

pronounce: IF-THURDY-FLY

Tiresia Branding

Israeli yellow is different from Hezbollah yellow… http://awiderbridge.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/18.jpg

Tommy Jensen

These are going to fight Hezbollah?

Solomon Krupacek

dont be fool. hezbollah was beaten by isis years long. only russian airforce made from them player in syria. before enter of russia hezbollah planned withdraw from syria. so, if isis without hevy weapons and airforce was able to decimate them, what do you think, how serious opponents are they for idf???

Ivan Kumar

solomom, your analogy here is absolutely misplaced. in Syria Hezbollah played rather untypical role for itself. Educate yourself on tactics and history before you post. I think it’s reasonable thing to do.

Tiresia Branding

remember 2006… http://youtu.be/Rf-Ea2K9KyU and think well before attacking Lebanon today http://youtu.be/thohkZ6aPU0

Solomon Krupacek

first, now is 2017 second, in 2006 was eliminated the hard core of hezjahweh. so big disaster for moslems, that until today had fear to declear war on israel.

Tommy Jensen

Have Israel seen this film?


Lol gimme a break, the only experience IDF has is bullying and killing palestinians

Solomon Krupacek

sure? 3 wars won, in bekaa completely destroyed the saa within 4 hours.


When was that 30+ years ago?

Solomon Krupacek

repeatedly won all wars. the idef is stronger then ever was. sorry, but you dream again. :) good night!


If they are so strong then why havent they taken action already?? Hmm????

Roddy Wehrmacht

Hymie your soldiers are sissies and must wear diapers when not abusing Palestinian women and children – sorry this isn’t 1967 or 1973 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/23a8ef7959fe9b1b296aaea95249c9f821d241e2b8b332533b29fc39fe122fe0.jpg

Tudor Miron

One should know Russian diplomatic language to understand what he means. It’s not just stating the obvious fact (obvious because of 2006 events), for this he would choose different wording. I hear it as direct and clear warning that Russia is not going to seat on the fence if Israel is to start agression against Lebanon.

Solomon Krupacek

i bet 1000 euros, that russia will not help lebanon

Tiresia Branding

yes, no direct involvement, but just happened http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/6741/russian-special-operations-commando-seen-wearing-hezbollah-patch-in-syria http://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/1.696801

Solomon Krupacek

yes, you idiot, and the russian soldier has name rodger :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

putin is laughing noooooow :DDDDDDDDDDDDD

russia gives wapons in syria. for use in syria, russia will not be involved in such war, baby!

use your receipt: haaretz is MSM shit, they lie about russia help :PPPP

Tiresia Branding

so sensible guy, Solomon? Or hysterical gay?

Solomon Krupacek

you simply lie, arab bitch


Fuck off already. Sounds like puberty isn’t treating you well.

Solomon Krupacek

i am yawning

andy l

Do you even have 1000 Euros lol

Nigel Maund

If Israel does fo after Hezbollah, which in my opinion they would be foolish to do, then I hope Hezbollah make them really suffer for what they have done to the Middle East and its peoples. It high time Israel suffered a decisive defeat and learned to get on with other people rather than wage continuous war.


Israel is all hot air and simply does not have the strategic mass for a long term asymmetrical war that Hezbollah, the Lebanese resistance and Iran will wage. The 5 million Zionist squatters in Palestine will simply run out manpower as fighting a legendary military like Hezbollah is unlike beating up old Palestinian women and children.


https://mondediplo.com/2008/09/07israel Zionist nationalist myth of enforced exile

Israel deliberately forgets its history

An Israeli historian suggests the diaspora was the consequence, not of the expulsion of the Hebrews from Palestine, but of proselytising across north Africa, southern Europe and the Middle East

by Schlomo Sand

Le Monde diplomatiqueIsrael deliberately forgets its history ↑

Every Israeli knows that he or she is the direct and exclusive descendant of a Jewish people which has existed since it received the Torah (1) in Sinai. According to this myth, the Jews escaped from Egypt and settled in the Promised Land, where they built the glorious kingdom of David and Solomon, which subsequently split into the kingdoms of Judah and Israel. They experienced two exiles: after the destruction of the first temple, in the 6th century BC, and of the second temple, in 70 AD.

Two thousand years of wandering brought the Jews to Yemen, Morocco, Spain, Germany, Poland and deep into Russia. But, the story goes, they always managed to preserve blood links between their scattered communities. Their uniqueness was never compromised.

At the end of the 19th century conditions began to favour their return to their ancient homeland. If it had not been for the Nazi genocide, millions of Jews would have fulfilled the dream of 20 centuries and repopulated Eretz Israel, the biblical land of Israel. Palestine, a virgin land, had been waiting for its original inhabitants to return and awaken it. It belonged to the Jews, rather than to an Arab minority that had no history and had arrived there by chance. The wars in which the wandering people reconquered their land were just; the violent opposition of the local population was criminal.

This interpretation of Jewish history was developed as talented, imaginative historians built on surviving fragments of Jewish and Christian religious memory to construct a continuous genealogy for the Jewish people. Judaism’s abundant historiography encompasses many different approaches.

But none have ever questioned the basic concepts developed in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Discoveries that might threaten this picture of a linear past were marginalised. The national imperative rejected any contradiction of or deviation from the dominant story. University departments exclusively devoted to “the history of the Jewish people”, as distinct from those teaching what is known in Israel as general history, made a significant contribution to this selective vision. The debate on what constitutes Jewishness has obvious legal implications, but historians ignored it: as far as they are concerned, any descendant of the people forced into exile 2,000 years ago is a Jew.

Nor did these official investigators of the past join the controversy provoked by the “new historians” from the late 1980s. Most of the limited number of participants in this public debate were from other disciplines or non-academic circles: sociologists, orientalists, linguists, geographers, political scientists, literary academics and archaeologists developed new perspectives on the Jewish and Zionist past. Departments of Jewish history remained defensive and conservative, basing themselves on received ideas. While there have been few significant developments in national history over the past 60 years (a situation unlikely to change in the short term), the facts that have emerged face any honest historian with fundamental questions.

Founding myths shaken

Is the Bible a historical text? Writing during the early half of the 19th century, the first modern Jewish historians, such as Isaak Markus Jost (1793-1860) and Leopold Zunz (1794-1886), did not think so. They regarded the Old Testament as a theological work reflecting the beliefs of Jewish religious communities after the destruction of the first temple. It was not until the second half of the century that Heinrich Graetz (1817-91) and others developed a “national” vision of the Bible and transformed Abraham’s journey to Canaan, the flight from Egypt and the united kingdom of David and Solomon into an authentic national past. By constant repetition, Zionist historians have subsequently turned these Biblical “truths” into the basis of national education.

But during the 1980s an earthquake shook these founding myths. The discoveries made by the “new archaeology” discredited a great exodus in the 13th century BC. Moses could not have led the Hebrews out of Egypt into the Promised Land, for the good reason that the latter was Egyptian territory at the time. And there is no trace of either a slave revolt against the pharaonic empire or of a sudden conquest of Canaan by outsiders.

Nor is there any trace or memory of the magnificent kingdom of David and Solomon. Recent discoveries point to the existence, at the time, of two small kingdoms: Israel, the more powerful, and Judah, the future Judea. The general population of Judah did not go into 6th century BC exile: only its political and intellectual elite were forced to settle in Babylon. This decisive encounter with Persian religion gave birth to Jewish monotheism.

Then there is the question of the exile of 70 AD. There has been no real research into this turning point in Jewish history, the cause of the diaspora. And for a simple reason: the Romans never exiled any nation from anywhere on the eastern seaboard of the Mediterranean. Apart from enslaved prisoners, the population of Judea continued to live on their lands, even after the destruction of the second temple. Some converted to Christianity in the 4th century, while the majority embraced Islam during the 7th century Arab conquest.

Most Zionist thinkers were aware of this: Yitzhak Ben Zvi, later president of Israel, and David Ben Gurion, its first prime minister, accepted it as late as 1929, the year of the great Palestinian revolt. Both stated on several occasions that the peasants of Palestine were the descendants of the inhabitants of ancient Judea (2).

Proselytising zeal

But if there was no exile after 70 AD, where did all the Jews who have populated the Mediterranean since antiquity come from? The smokescreen of national historiography hides an astonishing reality. From the Maccabean revolt of the mid-2nd century BC to the Bar Kokhba revolt of the 2nd century AD, Judaism was the most actively proselytising religion. The Judeo-Hellenic Hasmoneans forcibly converted the Idumeans of southern Judea and the Itureans of Galilee and incorporated them into the people of Israel. Judaism spread across the Middle East and round the Mediterranean. The 1st century AD saw the emergence in modern Kurdistan of the Jewish kingdom of Adiabene, just one of many that converted.

The writings of Flavius Josephus are not the only evidence of the proselytising zeal of the Jews. Horace, Seneca, Juvenal and Tacitus were among the Roman writers who feared it. The Mishnah and the Talmud (3) authorised conversion, even if the wise men of the Talmudic tradition expressed reservations in the face of the mounting pressure from Christianity.

Although the early 4th century triumph of Christianity did not mark the end of Jewish expansion, it relegated Jewish proselytism to the margins of the Christian cultural world. During the 5th century, in modern Yemen, a vigorous Jewish kingdom emerged in Himyar, whose descendants preserved their faith through the Islamic conquest and down to the present day. Arab chronicles tell of the existence, during the 7th century, of Judaised Berber tribes; and at the end of the century the legendary Jewish queen Dihya contested the Arab advance into northwest Africa. Jewish Berbers participated in the conquest of the Iberian peninsula and helped establish the unique symbiosis between Jews and Muslims that characterised Hispano-Arabic culture.

The most significant mass conversion occurred in the 8th century, in the massive Khazar kingdom between the Black and Caspian seas. The expansion of Judaism from the Caucasus into modern Ukraine created a multiplicity of communities, many of which retreated from the 13th century Mongol invasions into eastern Europe. There, with Jews from the Slavic lands to the south and from what is now modern Germany, they formed the basis of Yiddish culture (4).

Prism of Zionism

Until about 1960 the complex origins of the Jewish people were more or less reluctantly acknowledged by Zionist historiography. But thereafter they were marginalised and finally erased from Israeli public memory. The Israeli forces who seized Jerusalem in 1967 believed themselves to be the direct descendents of the mythic kingdom of David rather than – God forbid – of Berber warriors or Khazar horsemen. The Jews claimed to constitute a specific ethnic group that had returned to Jerusalem, its capital, from 2,000 years of exile and wandering.

This monolithic, linear edifice is supposed to be supported by biology as well as history. Since the 1970s supposedly scientific research, carried out in Israel, has desperately striven to demonstrate that Jews throughout the world are closely genetically related.

Research into the origins of populations now constitutes a legitimate and popular field in molecular biology and the male Y chromosome has been accorded honoured status in the frenzied search for the unique origin of the “chosen people”. The problem is that this historical fantasy has come to underpin the politics of identity of the state 
of Israel. By validating an essentialist, 
ethnocentric definition of Judaism it encourages a segregation that separates Jews from non-Jews – whether Arabs, Russian immigrants or foreign workers.

Sixty years after its foundation, Israel refuses to accept that it should exist for the sake of its citizens. For almost a quarter of the population, who are not regarded as Jews, this is not their state legally. At the same time, Israel presents itself as the homeland of Jews throughout the world, even if these are no longer persecuted refugees, but the full and equal citizens of other countries.

A global ethnocracy invokes the myth of the eternal nation, reconstituted on the land of its ancestors, to justify internal discrimination against its own citizens. It will remain difficult to imagine a new Jewish history while the prism of Zionism continues to fragment everything into an ethnocentric spectrum. But Jews worldwide have always tended to form religious communities, usually by conversion; they cannot be said to share an ethnicity derived from a unique origin and displaced over 20 centuries of wandering.

The development of historiography and the evolution of modernity were consequences of the invention of the nation state, which preoccupied millions during the 19th and 20th centuries. The new millennium has seen these dreams begin to shatter.

And more and more academics are analysing, dissecting and deconstructing the great national stories, especially the myths of common origin so dear to chroniclers of the past.

Schlomo Sand

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Shlomo Sand is professor of history at Tel Aviv university and the author of Comment le people juif fut inventé (Fayard, Paris, 2008)

(1) The Torah, from the Hebrew root yara (to teach) is the founding text of Judaism. It consists of the first five books of the Old Testament (the Pentateuch): Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy.

(2) See David Ben Gurion and Yitzhak Ben Zvi, Eretz Israel in the past and present, 1918 (in Yiddish), and Jerusalem, 1980 (in Hebrew); Yitzhak Ben Zvi, Our population in the country, Executive Committee of the Union for Youth and the Jewish National Fund, Warsaw, 1929 (in Hebrew).

(3) The Mishnah, regarded as the first work of rabbinic literature, was drawn up around 200 AD. The Talmud is a synthesis of rabbinic discussions on the law, customs and history of the Jews. The Palestinian Talmud was written between the 3rd and 5th centuries; the Babylonian Talmud was compiled at the end of the 5th century.

(4) Yiddish, spoken by the Jews of eastern Europe, was a Germano-Slavic language incorporating Hebrew words.

John Brown

Hezbollah is very smart They will concentrate their rocket barrage on Israeli military air strips, military bases and critical civilian infrastructure like oil refineries, water treatment plants, electricity generation, air ports and Israel’s Dimona nuclear reactor. If Hezbollah succeeds in this it will be a major defeat for Israel as they will be in similar economic shape to what Syria is in now. As such targets are very large, I expect Hezbollah to succeed in this in any war started by racist supremacist Israel.

Rafik Chauhan

if Saudi cowards want war let them have it . first strike on oil facilyt second strike on all palace where they stay let them go and hide like rat . Saudi fate will be sealed tighter with Israel.


Just as Israel is willing to sacrifice any number of American lives to defeat Iran, likewise Saudi Arabia is willing to sacrifice any number of Israeli lives to defeat Hezbollah.

So long as cowards rule, peace shall endure.


maybe they would be a little less arrogant. maybe they would stop trying to ruin others


Israeli lossess in case of an attack on Lebanon are likely, though it would also depend on what kind of attack. It would also depend on the situation at the time. Substantial Hezbollah forces near the Golan would likely trigger an attack.

It would also depend on the effectiveness of Israeli anti missile system that has been installed on Israeli tanks, a system so effective that the US army has bought it recently from Israel.



Roddy Wehrmacht

Israel will “suffer substantial casualties”

Good. they deserve it. These cunts bomb civilian infrastructure and kill non-combatants with impunity.

Hugh Allan

The world is sick of Israel’s violence and brutality against innocent women and children. Because of U.S. support Israel thinks it can behave like a junk yard dog. North Korea should slip Hezbollah one of it’s nukes. Then if Israel attacks Lebanon, Hezbollah can disappear Tel Aviv from the face of the earth. It might make Israel rethink the Greater Israel Project.

Tommy Jensen

If you have got your arse kicked once, you think twice before entering into another kick.

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