Israel Giving the Kurds an Air Force to Fight Baghdad – Reports

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Israel Giving the Kurds an Air Force to Fight Baghdad - Reports

Israel Air Force airplane F-16 D ‘Barak Cobra’prepares for take off. June 28 2010. Photo by Ofer Zidon/Flash90

The article below has some very questionable statements that cannot be confirmed. However, it provides an intersting look at the general attitude of the sides involved in the conflict.

Gordon Duff and Nahed al Husaini of Veterans Today’s team report (source):

Up to 200 Kurdish pilots are being trained in both Israel and South Africa for war against Baghdad, according to sources on the ground.  As we speak, Kurdistan, within Iraq, is becoming an Israeli armed camp.  Air defense weapons, long range artillery, helicopters and combat aircraft moving to Erbil for a wider war against Iraq and Iran.

Moreover, sources say Israeli pilots flying US aircraft, are operating well outside authorized and agreed upon operational zones, hitting Iranian and Hezbollah forces inside Syria.

Sources say that Netanyahu has become a regular visitor to Erbil, meeting with Barzani on at least three different occasions, assuring Kurdistan of Israeli backing when war begins.

We are also told that Iraq’s renewed fighting against ISIS in and near Kirkuk is really the beginning of the war against the Kurds, that ISIS is, in fact, a Kurdish force inside some regions of Iraq.  Israel, we are told, trained Kurds to move into key oil regions of Iraq, begin transporting out oil as early as late 2014, pretending to be ISIS forces while Israel assisted ISIS, with US help, in taking Mosul and Anbar province.

Inside Syria today, Israeli forces with ISIS near Deir Ezzor are coordinating a “re-flagging” operation claimed as the US backed advance into key oil regions of Syria, areas that have no history of Kurdish population.

Kurds moving into Deir Ezzor backed by  the US and Israel, really backed by ISIS itself, plan to occupy much of Syria and choke off oil revenue, weakening Syria and relieving the threat a free and independent Middle East would represent to Israel.

Israel, aided by Saudi Arabia, has played “divide and conquer,” the “Great Game” learned from the British in the 19th century, Turk against Kurd, Kurds against Arabs, Shiite against Sunni, tribe against tribe, arming both sides at times, picking wounds and sitting back, enjoying the slaughter.

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  • jhon malakiat

    omg.. disgrace kurd become zionist’s slave…

    • χρηστος

      indeed. they sold their souls to the devil

      • Dennis R

        Oh no!! What devil is that? Russian? American? Because BOTH have helped them fight Arabs for decades and decades. Wow….do you all sit on here and talk this filth without even the slightest iota of knowledge? GO VISIT these places before you offhandedly say they should be wiped out. I’m a German-American and would happily fight on the side of the IDF if I saw Arabs continuing the war they started in the first place. All the jews did was find a piece of land to live in. Whats YOUR EXCUSE? for being ignorantly armed and hostile assholes? LOL

        • Bob

          The IDF would infinitely prefer your combat death dressed in US fatigues over any of theirs – hence, why Israeli lobbyists both inside US and from Israel itself constantly push for the US military to fight their wars for them.

        • Wahid Algiers

          YOU slave of the zionists.

        • Real Anti-Racist Action

          Alert everybody, we have an Ashkenazi-Zionist here spreading his Khazar-propaganda.
          He just said his loyalty is to Israel and not to America.
          He would turn over in his grave if he read a patriotic book about what the Founders of America thought, and also what Ulysses S. Grant had to say.
          http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/grants-tomb-and-other-anti-semitic-hate-symbols/

          • John Whitehot

            try to explain that to americans..

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            I’m an American, and I agree.

          • John Whitehot

            now there are just the other 150 millions

        • John Whitehot

          With Merkel up for another term we’ll likely see african migrants “finding a place to live” in Germany

        • χρηστος

          Lets start from this…..”’All the jews did was find a piece of land to live in”’that land was eampty?they still continue to destroy arab houses, build their settlements in arab lands etc…what we have here is a slow genocide of non jewish people in israel.

          As for who started the war ….go to the beginning….answer the question and we’ll talk more…..

        • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

          Ignorant little lone soldier does your country know your serving the IDF , that violates the Geneva convention making you a war criminal by the definition of the law.

        • Boris Kazlov

          The jews wanted a piece of land, why not give them an american state?, they control USA already. These fake khazarians have as much a right to Palestine than to any other piece of land, cut the hypocritical crap and give them New York, Florida or California.

      • Media Kurdia Mesopotamia

        to be free is selling soul?you only can swear?enough to arabized enough o turkizied. Kurdistan is divided in to Four now is enough Kurds coming back to take their country .thanks to all supporter brothers ..whoever they are.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          No one is free under the ZioNazi boot. Ask the Palestinians.

          • Jonathan Cohen

            I hear Palestinians have the most important freedom, that being the ability to obtain abortions in Israel. No other freedom can compare with ABORTION RIGHTS in importance!

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You are a clown! When the evil ZioNazi invaders see a pregnant Palestinian woman, they try for two with one bullet. They wear T-shirts celebrating that. They think it is funny. No wonder the ZioNazis were such good friends with the Nazis.

          • Moussa Saab

            Fuck off

          • Boris Kazlov

            Sure abortion rights, they just want to finish off the Palestinian nation, you Jews should cut off your penises and throw them to the pigs for fodder, you are already half cut, get promoted to full cut.

          • Wahid Algiers

            Delicious answer and right.

        • Real Anti-Racist Action

          Why did you Kurd’s not free Christians and instead created the Armenian Genocide?
          Kurd’s are the biggest threat to my Christian brothers in the whole world.
          We will never forget your war of bigotry against us Christians when you tried to exterminate us all!
          We stand ready to defend our Christian brothers who live in their ancestral home lands deep within the land you wish to steal and enslave and be bigoted towards the Christians communities who long preexist Kurd’s.
          http://faithandheritage.com

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Tell us more about the Kurds’ role in the Armenian genocide.

          • Real Anti-Racist Action

            Beyond all the political correctness and apologetic verbiage, Kurd’s did the ‘dirty job’.

            Based on centuries old enmity and beginning from their infamous ‘Hamidian Battalions’, the Kurdish landlords who organized and supplied them were after Armenian real estate, property and business and, they eventually got it. Circassian, Arab and Turkmen irregulars did participate in irregular revenge attacks in smaller groups for their blood feuds with ethnic Armenian’s. Turkish irregulars and army deserters also participated in helping the Kurd’s commit the massacres and robberies in gangster groups. Their army on the other hand was just too busy in six different fronts of WWI to ever get involved.

            Sorry for being blunt and politically incorrect, but reality is reality, facts are facts. Anyone who looks at the maps with ‘historical Anatolian Armenia’ and ‘historical Anatolian Kurdistan’ would begin to question the whole thing anyway.

            Kurd’s today are wealthy become of the stolen loot they stole from the Armenian’s.
            And Kurd’s can establish the lands now because of the lack of 100 years of Armenian’s breeding.
            Because of population reduction of non-Kurd’s, is the only reason Kurd’s can steal the land today.

            https://www.pri.org/stories/kurds-turkey-atone-their-role-armenian-genocide

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Thank you! People need to know that before growing too much sympathy with the Kurds.

          • Jens Holm

            Hahahahhaha. Usual stuff. The last killing of armenians was in 1925 in Izmir and hardly any kurds there.

            Hardly a kurd alive from that time. If it was babies which did it, they will be at least 92 years old.

            And do remember Your many killed Kurds too.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            The Kurds only killed about a million Armenians when they were done.

            What does this mean?

            “And do remember Your many killed Kurds too.”

            That you blew your last English lesson?

          • Perot

            Kurds didn’t create that genocide at all. The turks, Ottoman Empire did it between 1915 and 1917, while the first world war was ongoing.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Oh, you mean they just enthusiastically participated.

          • Real Anti-Racist Action

            #1 Kurd’s were apart of the Ottoman Empire.
            #2 The regular army was fighting on 6 fronts and was to busy.
            #3 The Kurd’s had long wanted to exterminate Christians, but the Ottoman Empire prevented them. Till Ottoman was angry at some Armenians for fighting in the Russian army, so Ottoman finally gave the green light to do what they had wanted to do to Christians all along. Genocide them.
            #4 less then 5% of those involved were non-Kurd’s, as the war kept everyone to busy, except for the Kurd’s who had been waiting for the moment for generations.

          • Jonathan Cohen

            And if every population was reduced then everyone would have plenty of land so that nobody would ever bother fighting over it. The whole world could move to Hawaii!

          • Azad Musique Zarza

            That’s accusations not really correct. Armenia needs Kurdistan more than ever. Don’t forget that it was not Saladin who wiped Christians out of their indigenous land, it was Ataturk.

          • Jens Holm

            Most is far out. Why do You write that lying shit against facts again and again.

          • jhon malakiat

            very good insight, sir. thx for the info..

          • Alex Saman

            I can tell you : that was a big mistake, I mean the american genocide.
            Germans , americans, russians and other nations killed a lot of innocent peoples. when you, forget who was actually behind all regions problems for more than 400 years you will find that, it was not the Kurds. We dont need to forget the Armenian Genocide but you dont need to have thise much of hate as Christian. What you need? kill more millions of kurds? is that will make you satisfeid? Well, Sadam killed a lot of them, Isis killed a lot of them , Erdoghan and Turkey did the same, Iran killed a lot . Think , and God bless you!

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You know very well that the evil ZioNazi thugs will get millions of Kurds killed like they got millions of other Middle Easterner killed.

          • Tommy Jensen

            6 million Kurds?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Maybe like this:

            There is no doubt that almost all Jews sincerely believe in the “Holocaust” legend (as do many Gentiles), and the criminals have seized on these fears of persecution by using it as a recruiting sergeant for Mossad terrorist operatives, who are led to believe that they are serving their nation and helping to “save Jews” around the world. The cabal were only too happy to sacrifice Jews in World War Two. Yitzhak / Izaak Greenbaum said that one cow in Palestine was worth more than all the Jews in Europe (Poland or the diaspora in some accounts). But even if the true death toll in the camps – mostly from typhus, and a breakdown in the supply chain leading to starvation – was only 100,000, that was 100,000 too many. Acquiring a sovereign territory was a necessary but not sufficient element of the criminals’ program for world domination. In order to achieve the required political power, it was necessary to populate the territory with millions of people who would both imagine themselves as, and be perceived as, a persecuted minority.

            http://www.takeourworldback.com/zionistcrimes.htm

          • Perot

            Kurds didn’t create that genocide at all. The turks, Ottoman Empire did it between 1915 and 1917, while the First world war was ongoing.

          • Jens Holm

            He has a soap factory in Ankara.

          • Perot

            Kurds didn’t create that genocide at all. The turks, Ottoman Empire did it between 1915 and 1917, while the First world war was ongoing.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Oh, you mean they just enthusiastically participated.

          • dutchnational

            So you are in Niniveh plains defending christians in Iraq?

            Or fighting along the MFS against IS in Rojava?

            Or are you on your couch?

          • Boris Kazlov

            I am at my computer looking at the crap you usually post, unsure if to puke or to laugh.

          • Jens Holm

            Kurds didnt create that genoside at all. Turks did.

        • Jonathan Cohen

          If Barzani joins the SDF in defending ABORTION RIGHTS, I will support him, Israel, and Yinon! but not before. Do you know more than me about the prospects for ABORTION rights in Irbil? Certainly any alliance with ISIS or the Saudis would interfere with that!

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            So you support the utter evil of the Zionist project in the Middle East? What better way to discredit yourself!

          • Jonathan Cohen

            IF the zionists bring ABORTION RIGHTS, But I do NOT support their use of abortion banning “allies” like ISIS or Saudis.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            ZioNazis are experts in delivering postnatal abortion to the people of the Middle East.

          • Jonathan Cohen

            The prenatal kind would serve everyone better.

          • Boris Kazlov

            Your mother should have aborted you, hold her accountable.

        • Derapage

          Fake communist kurd go to Disneyland web site, Soutfronth is forbidden to
          children under fourteen years of age

        • χρηστος

          the war isnt over…by making such political moves you only create enemies. in the end you will end up with nothing.you will see. wanna bet?if you declare your independence in Iraq it will be like opening the gates of hell for you. things like that arent a product of arrogance (fed by israel and us) but with diplomacy…..your diplomacy sucks so you will end up fighting for all eternity.

          • Media Kurdia Mesopotamia

            ok come on i agree with yo bet,Kurds in centuries in fight but this time this on money sitting soft ass enemy must pay,65 million kurds with South Kurdistan.so you suggest wait and stay arab turk persian but no Kurd no Kurdistan ?so die for nothing.we Kurds never afraid of anyone.this time is good peoples time ;Kurds and Friends

          • χρηστος

            watch out who you make friends with……trust me …we have suffered major disasters from friends in centuries

        • dutchnational

          For sectarian turks, arabs and persians, a free kurdistan is anathema.

        • Solomon Krupacek

          dia, you murder of armenians and assyrians!

          • Media Kurdia Mesopotamia

            this turks did not Kurds .yes some war times they killed eachothers but mainly they were good neighbours.even they protected eachothers many times.

          • Solomon Krupacek

            turks ordered, kurds executed

            now you kill arabs, assyrians. big bestiality.

          • Media Kurdia Mesopotamia

            dont lie isis and nusra also even assad killed people and still killing are you living in mars?Kurds only prtoecting people,i think you are too fanatic to see only what they put front of you.

        • Boris Kazlov

          Kurdistan never existed, kurds are a nomadic Iranian tribe, always parasites of the countries that host them, and their leadership is nothing but a corrupt oil mafia.

          • Media Kurdia Mesopotamia

            keep dreaming fuckng turkgay you.only can bark,.Kurdistan always exist and will be exist .like you fcking bastards tried everything but no succes Kurds are here and will be you haters nightmares.go sleep.

      • Rafik Chauhan

        soon they will sell their own women to this zionist

        • χρηστος

          their women are ugly….noone will buy them

          • dutchnational

            No, because kurdish women will shoot rapists.

          • χρηστος

            still they are ugly

          • Alex Saman

            Your mother ugly and hairy, give her my best for the last night

          • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

            They marry their cousins you should know that.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            The ZioNazi thugs? Yes, I knew that.

          • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

            Yes, even with the Israeli’s it’s permissible an old barbaric custom from old and barbaric times Kurdish women want to end the practice but the men don’t.

          • Azad Musique Zarza

            Because KURDISH women’s reject you and for you be a ugly perso?

          • Media Kurdia Mesopotamia

            maybe you are right yes why not then give usto Kurdish boys your beautyful girls? ;)

          • χρηστος

            come and get them…..

          • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

            Wish that were true, but it’s not.

          • Tommy Jensen

            God gave the Kurds their historical right to carve out their land from Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Syria, because these countries borders were artificial made.
            If Israel are with Kurdistan and gives it a lot of modern weapons, F35 fighters and training, this proves that God have chosen to support the Kurds in their historical right to get their promised land and the oil fields they choose to take from their host countries as payment for centuries of suppression and genocides.

          • Solomon Krupacek

            cocko, IL will not give any normal plane. will be international embergo.

          • Jens Holm

            Rubbish again.

          • Tommy Jensen

            Right, you got this one right.

          • Volan

            ROFLMAO!! So….because Israel is there to help it means God gave them the land?? So rule of law means nothing?? What planet are you from boy? Rather shut your mouth. We all know by now Jews think they are the chosen ones which means exceptionalism runs high in the family. No wonder the Nazi’s hated you so much.

          • Mehrnaz

            Please refrain from racist comments! Read the last paragraph of this article! This is not about “Kurds” as a people, it is about Kurdish separatism which is stoked and actively supported as part of an imperialist agenda.

          • χρηστος

            its not racist its just a joke…..a reply to another person….

        • Alex Saman

          F,,,,,,,Islam…….and your pedofil prophet mohammad

          • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

            Sounds as if you are weak and impotent little boy disparaging someones religion definitely not a Christian must be an atheist and even they believe in the afterlife when their life is over.

        • Ali Aliawaey

          Not like you. You sold it since 1948

          • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

            You already sell them to the US and NATO why not the Israelis too, but you have been doing that to the US,UK for decades longer.

        • Media Kurdia Mesopotamia

          like you sold your women?look Kurdish sisters, heros fighting for their land and people.if they would accept like you easy goes nation maybe.but no way.you can only see in your dream.we Kurds die and kill for our honor which you dont have.by the way tell me who is not zionist now?america,all kings of europe?most arab countries,most strange erdogan biggest zionist…

    • Dennis R

      Kurds aren’t anyone’s “slaves”, LOL don’t you get it? THAT IS THE POINT of their ENTIRE existence. Ugh, stupidity is more contagious than ebola with people like you.

      • Bob

        Would you prefer the term ‘proxies’?

      • John Brown

        The kurdish leadership are slaves of Israel. They already have large foreign bank accounts to pay for drugs, prostitutes, expensive cars and mansions in Switzerland where they will run to when they have left kurdistan in ruins for their racist supremacist Israeli masters.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          Bull’s eye! Like many “leaders” they rape their own gullible people.

      • Real Anti-Racist Action

        I remember when Kurd’s committed the Armenian Genocide against Christians.
        And I remember when Jews committed the biggest slaughter in history, the slaughter of Christ Immanuel.
        And I remember the Jewish run Gulag camps in the Soviet Union where filthy Goyim’s and Christians were genocided, 45,000,000 of them!
        The Holodomor is the biggest genocide of the 20th century committed by Jews against Goyim’s.
        We will never forget. And we Goyim Christians vow to never allow Jews to wipe us out ever again… Never again!
        https://holodomorinfo.com/

      • John Whitehot

        they just became it.
        and what’s worst, they became it to found the nation they’ve been waiting to have since thousands years.

        • BL

          This is lie, Kurds did not want a nation “for thousands of years”. Kurdish nationalism is a very modern phenomenon, started during the times of the British empire as a divide and conquer tactic the British used everywhere they went. Historically Kurds were an integrated Iranian tribe and part of the Iranian civilization. The reason some Kurds currently live outside of Iran’s borders is because Safavid Persia lost part of its Western territory to the Ottoman empire.

          The modern Western created Kurdish nationalism is a complete rewriting of history and recreation of identity from scratch.

    • Real Anti-Racist Action

      The Kurd’s use to be Stalin’s slaves to wage attacks against Stalin’s enemy -Iran.
      Then after that, they became direct slaves of Israel. Stalin was a Zionist, as he implemented Karl Marx’s zionism over Goyim’s.
      So it could be said that Kurd’s have been slaves of Zionism for 80 years give or take. Nothing new, the same continues to be the same even today.
      http://ihr.org/

      • Serious Dude

        Karl Marx and Stalin hated the Israelis. Stalin wanted to move Jews into northern China. Also, founders of the Ba’ath party were Stalinists.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          Karl Marx was long dead before there were any Isrealies.

          • Serious Dude

            Israel exists for at least 3000 years.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You are either a liar, or a believer in fairy tales unsupported by history or archeology. You are not a serious dude. You are a clown.

          • Serious Dude

            You are blocked, troll.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            I’m a troll, because I call your bullshit?

        • Boris Kazlov

          Hey Marx was a Jew, a real one, not Stalin. Like all jews Marx would have been delighted with the “democratic socialist” state of Israel. Quit blurting stupidities about the glorious commander of the Soviet Union, who saved mankind from nazism.

          • Serious Dude

            Nazism and Stalinism are bothers-in-law.

        • Boris Kazlov

          Founders of Ba’ath sere arabists, hoping to build a strong secular arab nation, wonder why Israel hated them so much? Remember the United Arab Republic, Nasser was an arabist too.

          • Serious Dude

            Yeah, communists have always hated Israel. Arabists were a bunch of supremacists.

    • Media Kurdia Mesopotamia

      we can say new power of in middle east with israel hmm ;)now all racist hater like you slave of anyone will be sad but truth is this Kurdistan is Coming…

      • TecumsehUnfaced

        Then this Kurdistan will be devoured by the ZioNazi invaders of the Middle East when it is no longer useful to them.

      • Real Anti-Racist Action

        I know Kurdistan is coming and with it also the Faults-Christ is also coming.
        But just because something is coming, does not mean it is not evil.
        Do remember, that Justice also show’s up soon after such evil comes first.
        http://faithandheritage.com

      • Jonathan Cohen

        There are already 2 Kurdistans, Rojava and Barzani’s. One has ABORTION RIGHTS and therefore my support while the other doesn’t. Will an Independent Iraqi Kudistan defend ABORTION RIGHTS??? An alliance with Saudis or ISIS would suggest that it will not, and I cannot support you without knowing.

    • شەیدا عبدالکریم عثمان

      I try replying your comments but soon as seeing your father pics on your profile I decided not broke your heart

    • Azad Musique Zarza

      Why don’t you call Israel for a disgrace separatists once you called Kurds Zionist slave? People like you have became SHARIA slave that forcibly rules Iran and soon Turkey under Erdogan’s remain for all era’s.

      Turkey became dog of Iran just to reject Kurdistan’s Independence.

  • χρηστος

    well israel wants all arab countries near it crippled.whats the best way to accomplish taht?war….even the small iraqi Kurdistan has weapons that can cause big casualties. search online and you will find that this small incignificant country within iraq has huge amounts of weapons, even helicopters, mlrs systelm, jets,tanks etc. now i see the greater plan.arm Kurds as much as possible. make them a significant force in the area.then turn them against the Arabs. Israel will have iran, iraq, syria and who knows what other country in ruins, economically and infastracture speaking.then the oil comes to israel in huge amounts as their friends the Kurds will have to repay them somehow…..US will sell more weapons to Iraq,for the second time….everybody wins

    • MeMadMax

      As we have learned with the saudis(in yemen): money… advanced weapons… training… don’t make warriors. The kurds are not warriors, they are secular tribal in nature, with a very bad strain of communism going thru them that causes them to backstab even within their own sect.
      My prediction: The kurds will be going along smoothly until something trips them up internally, then it will be like the FSA where it will break up into other smaller groups and infighting.

      • Wahid Algiers

        The gypsy kurds are no union, have several languages. The are lost in any conflict, sooner or later. But at the present they are willing stupid slaves of the USrahellis.

        • Serious Dude

          Gypsy Kurds… No words for this Arab supremacist.

        • شەیدا عبدالکریم عثمان

          Go drink camel piss. We humans Kurds not like you fucking Arabs. Only France know arab and how treat you like the rats you are !

          • Wahid Algiers

            I am no Arab you fucken gypsy jew kurd. And now get it donkey shit eater: Kurdistan never existed, kurds are a nomadic Iranian tribe, always
            parasites of the countries that host them, and their leadership is
            nothing but a corrupt oil mafia.

          • Sulliman Zawitay

            Yes you fucking Arab Wahid, what a shame

          • 888mladen .

            Mate Assyrian Christians are also humans? Aren’t they. And what did you do to them? How human has your ethnic cleansing been? How human have you puppet masters been?

        • Sulliman Zawitay

          Mr (Wahid algypsy) Wait until end of the film To see who’s gypsy?

      • χρηστος

        correct. they know how to fight but are awful diplomats. they will make one mistake after another and finally end up with nothing

        • SKY

          Kurds are just typical proxy for USraeli wars! When the the Zionist get what they want or achieve some of their goals with what you Kurds will be who will be your backup. You kurds you can’t achieve nothing I mean nothing by yourselfs, someone must handle you the tools and then you are the proxies for work.

          • Sulliman Zawitay

            No it’s not what You think, when we got power then you will know what will we do next, next, next and finally NEXT, And we really know who’s enemies from Jesus times until Present

          • 888mladen .

            You can’t control your tang and you will govern a nation? You are drunk with the your imaginary anticipation of power which will eventually taste like desert sand in you mouth.

    • SKY

      But as much the Zionist hope for war with Iran that can be the very worst thing that can happen to Israel, Israel is what 7m people in 20,000km2. Hah what a joke of country when Iran has the huge land 1.650.000km2 and over 80.000.000 people, I just don’t understand the Zionists what will they achieve when they reach Iran. What ?

      • χρηστος

        dont think of war only like that…..lets think in greater scale….a combined NATO strike to Iran with the purpose of destroying its nuclear reactors….they will strike the airdefence, the military instalaltions , infastracture etc…..iran will become a desert. striking its oil facilities as well it will send it to middle ages again……thats what israel needs…a crippled enemy…not the occupation of iran

        • 888mladen .

          US NATO will not come unscathed out of this. They couldn’t stand against Serbian army and who they will stand 70 mil people. Defending a small patch of land occupied by Zionists will be a huge problem to the king of the North. Supporting illegal state of Israhell is becoming more and more unsustainable. It’s just a matter of time.

    • 888mladen .

      Zionist entity will cease to exist very soon once the anger of the neighboring nations reaches boiling point . They will not be successful.

      • χρηστος

        well israel has fought every single country in the area and won. now israel prepares to face hezbolah in libanon again…..i wait patiently to see how this will go….

        • 888mladen .

          Are you sure they won 2008 war with Hezbolah. I didn’t get that impression from the resources available to me.

  • cliff

    That’s the reason why the Russian must seal the Syrian airspace and they must convince Turkey to kick the U.S. air force out .

    • Dennis R

      HAHAHAHA Good luck with that one. Turkey is back and forth between Russians and the US for a REASON. They need us both. Russia isn’t the real enemy (We can talk Ukraine another day, they still own their own country for the moment) and same goes the other way. YOU THINK WE DON’T EVER SEE EYE TO WITH THE RUSSIANS NOW? I only WISH you people knew the people I did. Those in our intelligence divisions and DoD “special activities” orgs and Agency SOG elements who literally came from the Persian nation, along with many other Arab countries (yes, even Palestine). Why? Because they see this ignorance spreading, then stopping, then spreading another few inches, then stopping……The reason? Is because some guy will be recruited to fight those “god DAMN ZIONISTS!!!” as you say, and then realize, the only thing they are guilty for is that they stopped caring about holding back, and so has the U.S. We have a lunatic as President….AND I LOVE IT. Keep it coming. PLEASE????? PLEASE keep attacking those poor people. We could use the moral fuel to keep firebombing your homes. lol

      • Dennis R

        …..what do you think Russia did with Chechnya? LOL….god, it’s nuts. No one reads enough these days, or at least anything CURRENT enough to know that we have been in bed with Russians, Palestinians, and many of our former enemies. Why? Because of Daesh. And Why? BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY TRUE EVIL ON THIS EARTH. THAT’S IT.

        IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE, GRAB A SIMPLE, SEMI-AUTOMATIC WEAPON (OR FULLY AUTO if you think you are that Arab-type Rambo dude or any type of tough guy who’s not seen enough of areas like Aleppo or Mexico or Haiti or Columbia etc etc that the entire world laughs at on YOUTUBE when you shoot each other or blow yourselves up—especially on accident whenever you load a mortar or rocket the wrong way and blow you and your friends into a mist!!!!!!)

        • Alex

          Daesh is just another proxy like Al qaida and taliban, first you and other countries help them to rise, help them to take over countries and then you come and take the country and resources from them.

        • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

          Just another incoherent idiot , if people knew what a miserable little troll you were they wouldn’t even talk to you. When you turn 18 in a few years time you won’t be happy spouting off your mouth.

      • cliff

        Write with sense!!!!

      • Samuel Boas

        Kid what is wrong with you. Do you have any idea of what bullshit you are spewing?

  • Serious Dude

    Veterans Today, another conspiracy lunatic fringe website…

    • FlorianGeyer

      So is the US State Dept :)
      I nearly forgot, include the British Foreign Office as well.

      • Serious Dude

        That’s your opinion, I don’t know about that.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          You certainly don’t. MI6 loves ya!

          • Serious Dude

            Not Mossad? lol

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            They think you are a useful idiot. Are you Jewish? Do you want to be a sayan? You know, a traitor to your counrty?

          • Serious Dude

            I am Greek.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            That explains it. You don’t recognize that it is the Troika giving you that terrible pain in the behind, while Tsipras giggles with Victoria Nuland.

    • TecumsehUnfaced

      Allen Dulles would evaluate you a useful fool. He and the Warren Commission invented the “conspiracy theorist” to bamboozle those as credulous as you.

      • Serious Dude

        I don’t understand what you are saying…

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          Isn’t it obvious? You believe coverups and libel those who push past them.

          • Serious Dude

            I don’t like being in the lunatic fringe. What’s wrong with that?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Poor guy! That’s exactly where you are. You believe your overlords’ absurdities and so will do atrocities for them. Just like the ZioNazi soldiers serving their evil overlords. But some wake up and are Breaking the Silence.

          • Serious Dude

            The psychiatrist is at your door.

  • MeMadMax

    As we have learned with the saudis(in yemen for example): money… advanced weapons… training… don’t make warriors. The kurds are not warriors, they are secular/tribal in nature, with a very bad strain of communism going thru them that causes them to backstab everyone, even within their own sect.
    My prediction: The kurds will be going along smoothly until something trips them up internally, then it will be like the FSA, where it will break up into smaller groups with lots of infighting. We already see this with syrian vs iraqi kurds. The rejection of the FSA as a kurdish ally. The seemingly inability to take and hold ground without outside help. This is because its hard to get kurds to leave their home “area” like a town/village for example.

    • Jonathan Cohen

      Syrian and Iraqi Kurds certainly differ on THE main issue, ABORTION RIGHTS!

      • TecumsehUnfaced

        In the name of God, abort! Abort!

  • Dennis R

    OH GOD you people are such morons. “Zionist”? Really? In a land the size of YOUR country (unless you live in countries as small as Israel itself lol) there would be NO WAY that a “deal” would be made for the U.S allies to ALL SPEND THEIR TRILLIONS, and ALL just to help one ally?? Do you hear your selves? And by the way, go visit the Palestinians before you talk (for those of you who have not). My family has visited it all and says the only people that cause these outbursts of violence ARE the Arabs in the first place. The IDF, Mossad, Sayaret Metkal, Duvdevan, you name it, are ALL under strict mandate by THEIR OWN TASKINGS (orders) to not start or incite more “tribal and/or civil conflict” meaning they aren’t in American planes (given to them by their “Zionist masters” as you clearly uneducated people don’t get…The IDF have NEVER been and WILL never be our slaves in warfare AND ESPECIALLY WITH SPECIAL OPERATIONS and undermining our own coalitions efforts. We wouldn’t stand for it for long, believe me)…..well….I know we wouldn’t mind if a few radicalized Arabs and PLO-types got shot while acting up or got bombed for trying to ambush a SMALL GROUP OF PILOTS AND/OR FORCES THAT NUMBER IN THE HUNDREDS (as opposed to Hez, IRGC/Quds, and the Palestinians who number in the millions and have twice the resources….you people watch too much news—FAKE news–in your whatever crappy country you live in, and that goes for the U.S too—because we give even ourselves fake news but at least we admit it and know the real story–but when the US assists Israel its because a bunch of cowards just as bad as Daesh gather together like Egypt, Iran, etc all might as well think THEY have “the power to wipe them off the map”…..GOOD LUCK! Still, even when you all build nukes, invade, they keep kicking your ass and NO, not with Western help becaues I happen to know people in that line of work here in the American armed forces. We only get involved when we see countries gang up on a single country to try to invade and push it in the ocean and guess what we call that? WE CALL THOSE F–kING COWARDS. Man up, grab a weapon, and don’t hide under burkas, or act like suicidal IED-placing insurgents!!! I HAVE BEEN THERE. I HAVE BEEN ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF THE CAMPS.
    Be MEN and fight. Their women even kicked your asses during the Six Day War and I’m an American who IS GERMAN (yeah, we’re the most guilty) and even we know better now. GET THE HINT. YOU WILL ALWAYS LOSE, EVEN IF YOU NUKED ISRAEL OR USED AN EMP OR NERVE GAS, IT WOULDN’T MATTER. WE WOULD VAPORIZE YOU. THAT’S WHAT WE DO TO COWARDS. PEOPLE CALL US AMERICANS COWARDS WITH THE DRONES AND TECHNOLOGY….THAT IS INCORRECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE USE THOSE TO SAVE TIME AND MONEY BECAUSE THE ISRAELIS DESERVE TO OUTLIVE THE COWARDLY AND THEREFORE, HENCE, DESERVE ALL THE DRONES WE CAN PROVIDE, WHETHER YOU THINK IT’S COWARDLY OR NOT. SORRY….If you launch a ground war and IF YOU TRULY BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART THEY DON’T BELONG OR DESERVE TO LIVE, THEN PICK UP A GUN AND FIGHT LIKE MEN. I promise they won’t need drones….and neither will their two dozen allies who will come and wipe YOU off the face of the earth. They’ve survived nearly a century at this point if not more (they moved their homeless in the 1940s after the holocaust—which i think is HILARIOUSLY FUNNY those who deny that happened-, my grandfather saw it and he’s German, not Jewish, and was with the United States Army right in the middle of the fight against his own ancestry and fought like a lion, not like you Arabs do when given the chance….or will you??? (PROVE US WRONG AND GROW SOME BALLS AND MAN UP! If you do we will fight you fair right back.)

    • Alex

      Lol, what a rant.

      • Cyriak Papasissis

        Delirious rant , the man likes his ardor.

      • FlorianGeyer

        I was thinking the same thing. perhaps he is taking Valium :)

      • Mortal

        Typical ignorant westerner. His analysis -i ll call this rant that- has so many holes in it, that I won’t even bother pointing them. The western hegemony is declining and it is going to get more obvious in the years to come. Die fetten jahre sind vorbei, and when the shit goes down, guys like that are up for a hard wake up call.

        • Alex

          too true

  • Lilian Turin

    Seriously …this is the product of the wildest fantasy out there. I would take this article with a pinch of salt

  • Man Dagang

    But also the most brutal killing machines are russians & usa, why dont russia bomb israel with long range misiles & hit nato jets with s400

  • Cyriak Papasissis

    The Kurds in Syria are refugees from the Neo-Turks in the 20’s , who overstayed their welcome. Kemal Ataturk turned the tables on them , after they assisted him in the expulsion of Greeks from Asia Minor. They happily did the dirty work of maiming and killing for the Turks. As they did the same thing previously against the Assyrians and the Armenians in the Ottoman Empire , looting their properties and taking over their lands. The ill fame that accompanies them stems from their historical record. It seems they remained with the same instincts , they learned nothing. They have picked the wrong horse to ride , and they are going to face a coalition of every neighbor against them. The looting of Syrian oil was done through Iraqi Kurdistan. There is not one shred of excuse for them to claim oil fields in Deir ez Zour. The legal situation is clear , if they elect to cause war , they should be ready to lose even the privileges they enjoyed up to 2011. I don’t believe the average Kurd will follow the mad sold-out leadership when the hours become critical. They will massively defect , opting to live for another day.

    • Media Kurdia Mesopotamia

      your brain is melting friend .Kurds are in middle east 10 thousand years.only one thing i say Washukkani is now Serekani both means Kurdish, but i will not say go search learn yourself idiot.

      • TecumsehUnfaced

        So you weren’t able to refute any of the history Cyriak presented.

      • John Whitehot

        yep And you thrown away 10k years of history by putting up a state becoming whores of israel.
        clap clap clap.

      • Jonathan Cohen

        The oil fields deserve ABORTION RIGHTS! and if the Kurds bring ABORTION RIGHTS that gives them all the moral high ground they need!

      • Cyriak Papasissis

        More than 10.000 years , but not in Syria. . The Hurrians , your ancestors , were descendant from the neolithic population , neither Semites , nor Indo-Iranian. There were no idiots like me . Born in the mountainous area North of Zagros mountains , in the triangle around the point where the borders SE Turkey, Iran , NE Iraq meet today, no idiocy lumbers there. Land-grabbing is freely allowed. Raiding the plains too.

        • Media Kurdia Mesopotamia

          nations always were in move,noone maybe hundred percent stayed in same exact place,yes you syriac and assyrians also was here syria,surelike norhern Kurdistan was sometime armenia but same time armenia was also Kurdistan and some also shanged to turks were there.little bit like israel and palestin so close to eachother.some thousand years ago with perisans Kurds were in Agean and Greece,but Greek also occupied middle east long ago ,Kurdish inhabitant area mainly Toros Zagros line.but sometime caufcasia some xyntia in west china.but most of all there asimilated mixed.and now kurds with their brothers Arab,Syriac,Cyrcassian,Assyrian,Turkmen fighting to get back their freedom from blood eaters.

      • Solomon Krupacek

        10 000 years :DDDDD you should create joking newspaper.

        • Media Kurdia Mesopotamia

          if you are stupid i cant help but its so 10 thousand so i think you are getting infos about Kurds from Kurdish enemies like from persian or turks or racist arabs.

          • Solomon Krupacek

            10 000 yars ago was stone age :DDD

          • Kawa Asinger

            So what? Stone Age means humans were using stones for tools and so on. It doesn’t mean there were no humans. Dumb fuck! 🖕

          • Solomon Krupacek

            there wer no kurds. or other nations. nations came with civilizations

          • Media Kurdia Mesopotamia

            billion years ago Earth exist so what?stone was a good matrial for many,now smartphone age again so what?you mean people were not exist?Human homo saphiens exist 50000 years ago.your grandfathers if monkey they were even older than us Human on earth they say :) examples? Harran university was first university in the World,Gobeklitepe first settlement of the world is in Kurdistan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe

          • Solomon Krupacek

            kurdish liar scum :DDDD

  • John

    uuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhh …………. nice paint job on the jet. If this is the case, it will land hard for the Kurds and Israel. Nobody would have their back on this. A good day to all.

  • Wahid Algiers

    The gypsy kurds are no union, have several languages. The are lost in
    any conflict, sooner or later. But at the present they are willing and stupid
    “towelhead” slaves of the USrahellis.

    • Media Kurdia Mesopotamia

      you fucking desert rat talking from your fucked ass.i am a Kurd and proud to be.we Kurds are muslim and when i see opinion like you homo arabs i think our borther is really israily people.as a sheria supporter Kurd i say we muslim not anymore brother everyone goes on way.yes we have several Languages which shows that oldest language and richest language is.you isis homo which is slave of israel.with the assad who killed millions of own people,like terorist georgian erdokian also killed thousands of muslim will go to hell soon.i see you fcking racist arabs deserve to get fucked by yahudias.maybe your grondfather was also Kurd coz with Ayyubid and Ottoman Kurds was there in algeir you slave of france and ass licker of america.

      • TecumsehUnfaced

        Why do you disgrace Kurds so much with such mendacious ranting, if you are proud to be one? It makes your self identification doubtful. I think you are MOSSAD.

      • Jonathan Cohen

        Denouncing Homos as Arabs is a bad sign. France, America and Israel all defend homos; and we may not support those who denounce them like Saudis and ISIS.

      • Solomon Krupacek

        you have nothing, mountain gipsies :D oldest lanuage :DDDDD madia-kurdia :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD mesopotmai akurdia LOL, ROFL, LMAO, ROFLMAO.

      • Wahid Algiers

        I am no Arab you fucken gypsy jew kurd. And now get it donkey shit
        eater: Kurdistan never existed, kurds are a nomadic Iranian tribe,
        always
        parasites of the countries that host them, and their leadership is
        nothing but a corrupt greedy mafia.

        • Media Kurdia Mesopotamia

          Kurds are oldest nation.go learn idiot.why Prophet Abraham from Kurdistan which is grand father of Moses and Mohammed ,Noah also Zerdeste kal Ayyub ….Kurdsitan was exist thousand of years with other names.you are not arab you say why you use my name ?as yours.persians also grandson of the Kurdish Medes.you onle a fucking lier.which country s parasite tell me.like iraq and syria stealing Kurdish oil and richness and never share to them or turkey taking their water energy electric and never give hem,or iran stealing even history so like you idiots think Kudistan not exist?

    • sardar Baxtiar

      lady Wahid just remember that we gonna fuck all of you bastard you’re really clear enemy and I am Kurdish very proud to be because we’re very peaceful we don’t kill innocent humans as you do for money get lose asshole

      • Jonathan Cohen

        Do you support ABORTION RIGHTS??? Will an independent Irbil defend ABORTION RIGHTS Like Rojava?? Or will you compromise with ISIS and Saudis??

        • sardar Baxtiar

          Jonathan I didn’t get it your comment as I said I only support for independence kurdstan becomes a country and I didn’t said anything about Saudi or something I don’t like talk about political…..

      • Wahid Algiers

        I am no Arab you fucken gypsy jew kurd. And now get it donkey shit eater: Kurdistan never existed, kurds are a nomadic Iranian tribe, always
        parasites of the countries that host them, and their leadership is
        nothing but a corrupt oil mafia.

  • Helen4Yemen

    1) Kurds say they have no friends but the mountains. Now they have Israel, and that could cause them grief. https://www.washingtonpost.COM/news/worldviews/wp/2017/09/25/kurds-say-they-have-no-friends-but-the-mountains-now-they-have-israel-and-that-could-cause-them-grief/?utm_term=.343b971e9bf2
    2) The occupier of Palestinian lands has become the only country to support Iraqi Kurdistan’s separatism. https://www.telesurtv.NET/english/news/Why-Does-Israel-Support-an-Independent-Iraqi-Kurdistan–20170923-0023.html
    3) Israeli minister: The West, US, Israel have ‘major interest’ in Kurdish state http://www.rudaw.NET/english/middleeast/11092017
    4) Kurdish independence will see Iraq disintegrate; it’s Israel’s dream scenario https://www.middleeastmonitor.COM/20170927-kurdish-independence-will-see-iraq-disintegrate-its-israels-dream-scenario/
    5) Amidst Universal Opposition to KRG Referendum, Israel Stands by Kurds https://steemit.COM/news/@sarahabed/amidst-universal-opposition-to-krg-referendum-israel-stands-by-kurds
    6) The Kurds are allied with Syria’s fiercest enemy – Israel – whose planned Greater Israel project coincidentally aligns almost perfectly with the Kurds’ plans for “Kurdistan.” http://www.voltairenet.ORG/article197439.html
    7) Partitioning the Middle East: A Roadmap to US-Israeli Hegemony https://www.sott.NET/article/349040-Partitioning-the-Middle-East-A-Roadmap-to-US-Israeli-Hegemony
    8) Iraq, Syria and the death of the modern Middle East http://www.aljazeera.COM/indepth/opinion/2013/05/2013567200437919.html?;
    9) Fidel Castro says Mossad behind Islamic State http://www.timesofisrael.COM/fidel-castro-says-mossad-behind-islamic-state/?fb_comment_id=670111849739344_741888525895009
    10) Top Iranian general says Kurdish referendum an Israeli ‘plot’ https://www.timesofisrael.COM/top-iranian-general-says-kurdish-referendum-an-israeli-plot/
    11) Israel’s Benjamin Netanyahu is playing a cynical game on the Kurdish referendum http://www.washingtonexaminer.COM/israels-benjamin-netanyahu-is-playing-a-cynical-game-on-the-kurdish-referendum/article/2635550
    12) Shia leader claims Israel behind disintegration of Iraq by supporting Kurdish referendum http://www.kurdistan24.NET/en/news/63c963de-2c82-48ab-a8b3-0d793869e862
    13) Israel sees benefits in an independent Kurdistan https://www.timesofisrael.COM/israel-sees-benefits-in-an-independent-kurdistan/
    14) How Independent Kurdistan Will Allow Israel to Kill Two Birds With One Stone https://sputniknews.COM/analysis/201709221057624450-kurdistan-independence-israel-syria-iraq/
    15) Kurdistan News: Only Israel supports Kurdistan Referendum says Iraqi Prime Minister https://www.iraqinews.COM/baghdad-politics/iraqi-pm-israel-supports-kurdistan-referendum/
    16) Israel Endorses Kurdish Independence in Lone Show of Support https://www.bloomberg.COM/news/articles/2017-09-13/israel-endorses-kurdish-independence-in-lone-show-of-support
    17) 200,000 Israelis Expected in “Kurdistan” Once Independence Is Declared https://www.globalresearch.CA/200000-israelis-expected-in-kurdistan-once-independence-is-declared/5610344
    18) An independent Kurdistan would give Israel an ally in the region and undermine Iranian influence in Iraq. https://www.thenational.AE/world/mena/israeli-prime-minister-backs-kurdish-independence-in-iraq-1.628057
    19) Israel’s recognition of Kurdish claims to independence is an act that perpetuates the denial of Palestinian rights. http://www.aljazeera.COM/indepth/opinion/2014/07/israel-iraqi-kurds-gambling-with–2014737321568960.html
    20) Kurdish independence will see Iraq disintegrate; it’s Israel’s dream scenario http://www.whatreallyhappened.COM/content/kurdish-independence-will-see-iraq-disintegrate-it%E2%80%99s-israel%E2%80%99s-dream-scenario#axzz4u6LzaD31

    • Cyriak Papasissis

      If one observes the map for the proposed Kurdistan , it includes the city of Tabriz in Iran and half of the Iranian Azerbaijan province. Note that Ayatollah Khamenei is a native of that area. Imagine what kind of conflagration the idiotic Kurds intend on creating.

      • Tommy Jensen

        No price is too high when it comes to the promised land.
        Millions of Iraqi children will die but it will all be worth it for Israeli dual citizens.

  • Real Anti-Racist Action

    So why isn’t Russia training Hezbollah pilots in Russia to defend the ME from the evils of Zionism?
    Or at the very least they should be trained in Syria and given an air-force to fly.
    Is this not equality?
    http://ihr.org/

  • Helen4Yemen

    The ODED YINON PLAN to break up the Arab countries. Document was written in 1982

    1- The Arab world is too fractured to pose a threat to the Jews in Palestine
    The Arab Moslem world, therefore, is not the major strategic problem which we shall face in the Eighties, despite the fact that it carries the main threat against Israel, due to its growing military might. This world, with its ethnic minorities, its factions and internal crises, which is astonishingly self-destructive, as we can see in Lebanon, in non-Arab Iran and now also in Syria, is unable to deal successfully with its fundamental problems and does not therefore constitute a real threat against the State of Israel in the long run, but only in the short run where its immediate military power has great import. In the long run, this world will be unable to exist within its present framework in the areas around us without having to go through genuine revolutionary changes.

    2- The Arab world is made up of ethnic groups hostile to one another
    The Moslem Arab World is built like a temporary house of cards put together by foreigners (France and Britain in the Nineteen Twenties), without the wishes and desires of the inhabitants having been taken into account. It was arbitrarily divided into 19 states, all made of combinations of minorities and ethnic groups which are hostile to one another, so that every Arab Moslem state nowadays faces ethnic social destruction from within, and in some a civil war is already raging.

    3- Algeria, Morocco,Tunisia are made up of Arabs and non-Arab Berbers
    Apart from Egypt, all the Maghreb states are made up of a mixture of Arabs and non-Arab Berbers. In Algeria there is already a civil war raging in the Kabile mountains between the two nations in the country. Morocco and Algeria are at war with each other over Spanish Sahara, in addition to the internal struggle in each of them. Militant Islam endangers the integrity of Tunisia and Qaddafi organizes wars which are destructive from the Arab point of view, from a country which is sparsely populated and which cannot become a powerful nation. That is why he has been attempting unifications in the past with states that are more genuine, like Egypt and Syria.

    4- Sudan is made up of four groups hostile to one another
    Sudan, the most torn apart state in the Arab Moslem world today is built upon four groups hostile to each other, an Arab Moslem Sunni minority which rules over a majority of non-Arab Africans, Pagans, and Christians.

    5- Egypt: Christian minority may want a state of their own
    In Egypt there is a Sunni Moslem majority facing a large minority of Christians which is dominant in upper Egypt: some 7 million of them, so that even Sadat, in his speech on May 8, expressed the fear that they will want a state of their own, something like a “second” Christian Lebanon in Egypt.

    6- Syria: Shia minority ruling over majority Sunni
    Syria is fundamentally no different from Lebanon except in the strong military regime which rules it. But the real civil war taking place nowadays between the Sunni majority and the Shi’ite Alawi ruling minority (a mere 12% of the population) testifies to the severity of the domestic trouble.

    7- Iraq: Sunni minority ruling over Shia majority – Kurdish minority will make it easy to break it up
    Iraq is, once again, no different in essence from its neighbors, although its majority is Shi’ite and the ruling minority Sunni. Sixty-five percent of the population has no say in politics, in which an elite of 20 percent holds the power. In addition there is a large Kurdish minority in the north, and if it weren’t for the strength of the ruling regime, the army and the oil revenues, Iraq’s future state would be no different than that of Lebanon in the past or of Syria today. The seeds of inner conflict and civil war are apparent today already, especially after the rise of Khomeini to power in Iran, a leader whom the Shi’ites in Iraq view as their natural leader.

    8- Bahrain, UAE, Oman: Sunni minority rules over Shia majority, Kuwait: 75% foreign, Saudi Arabia: 50% foreign
    All the Gulf principalities and Saudi Arabia are built upon a delicate house of sand in which there is only oil. In Kuwait, the Kuwaitis constitute only a quarter of the population. In Bahrain, the Shi’ites are the majority but are deprived of power. In the UAE, Shi’ites are once again the majority but the Sunnis are in power. The same is true of Oman and North Yemen. Even in the Marxist South Yemen there is a sizable Shi’ite minority. In Saudi Arabia half the population is foreign, Egyptian and Yemenite, but a Saudi minority holds power.

    9- Jordan: Palestinian majority ruled by Bedouin minority
    Jordan is in reality Palestinian, ruled by a Trans-Jordanian Bedouin minority, but most of the army and certainly the bureaucracy is now Palestinian. As a matter of fact Amman is as Palestinian as Nablus.

    10- Syrian army is Sunni, commander Shia; Iraqi army is Shia ruled by Sunni
    All of these countries have powerful armies, relatively speaking. But there is a problem there too. The Syrian army today is mostly Sunni with an Alawi officer corps, the Iraqi army Shi’ite with Sunni commanders. This has great significance in the long run, and that is why it will not be possible to retain the loyalty of the army for a long time except where it comes to the only common denominator: The hostility towards Israel, and today even that is insufficient.

    11- Iran is composed of Sunni, Shia Alawis, Sunni Kurds, it faces Ethnic and religious tension,
    Half of Iran’s population is comprised of a Persian speaking group and the other half of an ethnically Turkish group. Turkey’s population comprises a Turkish Sunni Moslem majority, some 50%, and two large minorities, 12 million Shi’ite Alawis and 6 million Sunni Kurds.

    12- Afghanistan: 33% Shia, 67% Sunni
    In Afghanistan there are 5 million Shi’ites who constitute one third of the population.

    13- Pakistan: 15 million Shia (1982 figures)
    In Sunni Pakistan there are 15 million Shi’ites who endanger the existence of that state.

    14- The Muslim world made up of ethnic minorities is like a house of cards
    This national ethnic minority picture extending from Morocco to India and from Somalia to Turkey points to the absence of stability and a rapid degeneration in the entire region. When this picture is added to the economic one, we see how the entire region is built like a house of cards, unable to withstand its severe problems.

    15- Jews should have given Jordan to Palestinians and removed them from Palestine
    We could have saved ourselves all the bitter and dangerous conflict since then if we had given Jordan to the Palestinians who live west of the Jordan river. By doing that we would have neutralized the Palestinian problem which we nowadays face, and to which we have found solutions that are really no solutions at all, such as territorial compromise or autonomy which amount, in fact, to the same thing. Today, we suddenly face immense opportunities for transforming the situation thoroughly and this we must do in the coming decade, otherwise we shall not survive as a state.

    16- Jews should never have lost the Sinai peninsula
    The loss of the Suez Canal oil fields, of the immense potential of the oil, gas and other natural resources in the Sinai peninsula which is geomorphologically identical to the rich oil-producing countries in the region, will result in an energy drain in the near future and will destroy our domestic economy: one quarter of our present GNP as well as one third of the budget is used for the purchase of oil. The search for raw materials in the Negev and on the coast will not, in the near future, serve to alter that state of affairs. (Regaining) the Sinai peninsula with its present and potential resources is therefore a political priority which is obstructed by the Camp David and the peace agreements. The fault for that lies of course with the present Israeli government and the governments which paved the road to the policy of territorial compromise, the Alignment governments since 1967.

    17- Hoping for Egypt to give Israel the excuse to start a war and take back Sinai.
    Israel has two major routes through which to realize this purpose, one direct and the other indirect. The direct option is the less realistic one because of the nature of the regime and government in Israel as well as the wisdom of Sadat who obtained our withdrawal from Sinai, which was, next to the war of 1973, his major achievement since he took power. Israel will not unilaterally break the treaty, neither today, nor in 1982, unless it is very hard pressed economically and politically and Egypt provides Israel with the excuse to take the Sinai back into our hands for the fourth time in our short history. What is left therefore, is the indirect option. The economic situation in Egypt, the nature of the regime and its pan-Arab policy, will bring about a situation after April 1982 in which Israel will be forced to act directly or indirectly in order to regain control over Sinai as a strategic, economic and energy reserve for the long run. Egypt does not constitute a military strategic problem due to its internal conflicts and it could be driven back to the post 1967 war situation in no more than one day.

    18- How to break up Egypt
    Breaking Egypt down territorially into distinct geographical regions is the political aim of Israel in the Nineteen Eighties on its Western front. Egypt is divided and torn apart into many foci of authority. If Egypt falls apart, countries like Libya, Sudan or even the more distant states will not continue to exist in their present form and will join the downfall and dissolution of Egypt. The vision of a Christian Coptic State in Upper Egypt alongside a number of weak states with very localized power and without a centralized government as to date, is the key to a historical development which was only set back by the peace agreement but which seems inevitable in the long run.

    19- Break up Lebanon into five provinces
    Lebanon’s total dissolution into five provinces serves as a precendent for the entire Arab world including Egypt, Syria, Iraq and the Arabian peninsula and is already following that track.

    20- How to break up Syria and Iraq into ethnic and religious components
    The dissolution of Syria and Iraq later on into ethnically or religiously unqiue areas such as in Lebanon, is Israel’s primary target on the Eastern front in the long run, while the dissolution of the military power of those states serves as the primary short term target. Syria will fall apart, in accordance with its ethnic and religious structure, into several states such as in present day Lebanon, so that there will be a Shi’ite Alawi state along its coast, a Sunni state in the Aleppo area, another Sunni state in Damascus hostile to its northern neighbor, and the Druzes who will set up a state, maybe even in our Golan, and certainly in the Hauran and in northern Jordan. This state of affairs will be the guarantee for peace and security in the area in the long run, and that aim is already within our reach today.

    21- How to break up Iraq along ethnic/religious lines
    Iraq, rich in oil on the one hand and internally torn on the other, is guaranteed as a candidate for Israel’s targets. Its dissolution is even more important for us than that of Syria. Iraq is stronger than Syria. In the short run it is Iraqi power which constitutes the greatest threat to Israel. An Iraqi-Iranian war will tear Iraq apart and cause its downfall at home even before it is able to organize a struggle on a wide front against us. Every kind of inter-Arab confrontation will assist us in the short run and will shorten the way to the more important aim of breaking up Iraq into denominations as in Syria and in Lebanon. In Iraq, a division into provinces along ethnic/religious lines as in Syria during Ottoman times is possible. So, three (or more) states will exist around the three major cities: Basra, Baghdad and Mosul, and Shi’ite areas in the south will separate from the Sunni and Kurdish north. It is possible that the present Iranian-Iraqi confrontation will deepen this polarization.

    22- How to break up Saudi Arabia
    The entire Arabian peninsula is a natural candidate for dissolution due to internal and external pressures, and the matter is inevitable especially in Saudi Arabia. Regardless of whether its economic might based on oil remains intact or whether it is diminished in the long run, the internal rifts and breakdowns are a clear and natural development in light of the present political structure.

    23- Transfer power in Jordan from the King to Palestinians
    Jordan constitutes an immediate strategic target in the short run but not in the long run, for it does not constitute a real threat in the long run after its dissolution, the termination of the lengthy rule of King Hussein and the transfer of power to the Palestinians in the short run. There is no chance that Jordan will continue to exist in its present structure for a long time, and Israel’s policy, both in war and in peace, ought to be directed at the liquidation of Jordan under the present regime and the transfer of power to the Palestinian majority.

    24- Change the regime in Jordan and expel Palestinians from Palestine to Jordan
    Changing the regime east of the river will also cause the termination of the problem of the territories densely populated with Arabs west of the Jordan. Whether in war or under conditions of peace, emigration from the territories and economic demographic freeze in them, are the guarantees for the coming change on both banks of the river, and we ought to be active in order to accelerate this process in the nearest future.

    25- Jews must remove all Palestinians and send them to Jordan
    The autonomy plan ought also to be rejected, as well as any compromise or division of the territories for, given the plans of the PLO and those of the Israeli Arabs themselves, the Shefa’amr plan of September 1980, it is not possible to go on living in this country in the present situation without separating the two nations, the Arabs to Jordan and the Jews to the areas west of the river.

    26- Palestinians must understand that Jews must rule over all Palestine-and they need to move to Jordan
    Genuine coexistence and peace will reign over the land only when the Arabs understand that without Jewish rule between the Jordan and the sea they will have neither existence nor security. A nation of their own and security will be theirs only in Jordan.

    27- Palestinians consider all of Palestine stolen irrespective of 1948 or 1967 and Jews consider all of Palestine theirs – even beyond Jordan River
    Within Israel the distinction between the areas of ’67 and the territories beyond them, those of ’48, has always been meaningless for Arabs and nowadays no longer has any significance for us. The problem should be seen in its entirety without any divisions as of ’67. It should be clear, under any future political situation or military constellation, that the solution of the problem of the indigenous Arabs will come only when they recognize the existence of Israel in secure borders up to the Jordan river and beyond it, as our existential need in this difficult epoch, the nuclear epoch which we shall soon enter.

    28- The West Bank must be populated with Jews or else Jews will be defeated like crusaders.
    Dispersal of the population is therefore a domestic strategic aim of the highest order; otherwise, we shall cease to exist within any borders. Judea, Samaria and the Galilee are our sole guarantee for national existence, and if we do not become the majority in the mountain areas, we shall not rule in the country and we shall be like the Crusaders, who lost this country which was not theirs anyhow, and in which they were foreigners to begin with. Rebalancing the country demographically, strategically and economically is the highest and most central aim today. Taking hold of the mountain watershed from Beersheba to the Upper Galilee is the national aim generated by the major strategic consideration which is settling the mountainous part of the country that is empty of Jews today.

    29- No force can remove the Jews from Palestine
    Our existence in this country itself is certain, and there is no force that could remove us from here either forcefully or by treachery (Sadat’s method). Despite the difficulties of the mistaken “peace” policy and the problem of the Israeli Arabs and those of the territories, we can effectively deal with these problems in the foreseeable future.

  • Graeme Rymill

    Veteran’s Today? An article written by Gordon Duff? This is considered an authoratative source by SouthFront?

    The same Gordon Duff who in 2012 stated:

    “About 30% of what’s written on Veterans Today, is patently false. About 40% of what I write, is at least purposely, partially false, because if I didn’t write false information I wouldn’t be alive. I simply have to do that. I write…anything I write I write between the lines.”

    • TecumsehUnfaced

      Isn’t that a very old, debunked libel on the basis of badly fabricated evidence and never confirmed? Let’s see it in writing by Gordon Duff, and not from some badly dubbed auditory synthesis.

      • Graeme Rymill

        Here’s the supporting evidence for the fact the Duff makes up stuff –

        “Air defense weapons, long range artillery, helicopters and combat
        aircraft moving to Erbil for a wider war against Iraq and Iran.”

        Not a shred of evidence offered for these outlandish claims….. lie heaped upon lie heaped upon lie….

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          You are a liar. You presented no evidence for your original claim. You libeled Duff. You joined in the ZioNazi ritual defamation of all those that expose them.

          So you made up another claim that the ZioNazis were not behaving with their usual villainy in the Middle East, and called Duff a liar for reporting that they were. (Still no citation! What a liar you are!)

          • dutchnational

            It seems to me you are the one making up things without “proof” and namecalling too.

            Both illogical and stupid, very stupid.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Really? Honestly? Truly?

            Has Rymill supported his original libel yet?

            The same Gordon Duff who in 2012 stated:

            “About 30% of what’s written on Veterans Today, is patently false. About 40% of what I write, is at least purposely, partially false, because if I didn’t write false
            information I wouldn’t be alive. I simply have to do that. I write…anything I write I write between the lines.”

            Aren’t you joining him in being “Both illogical and stupid, very stupid”?

    • Tudor Miron

      And who’s the critic? Same old zio troll :) Do you realise that your credibility is simply non existent?

  • Kennethllindsy

    Story seemed plausible until the part about the false flag Isis operation. Since that is ludicrous, it casts doubt in rest of the story.
    But, there is little doubt Israel will defend Kurdistan.

    • TecumsehUnfaced

      Until it comes time to devour the silly suckers (those who haven’t died for evil ZioNazi Land), like the ZioNazi thugs assaulted the British who armed and trained them.

    • stringball

      oh, there’s plenty doubt!

  • Media Kurdia Mesopotamia

    no more fight.thats enough thnaks for helping and giving planes but its just for defense.we Kurds will live in our independent Kurdistan in peace.we love our neighbours and all the people in the world which is not racist.Kurds are not under control of using anyone.we say one word for haters -person knows from yourself-means if you puting bad comment,blame or swear this shows that its just yourself.

  • Jonathan Cohen

    If Barzani joins the SDF in defending ABORTION RIGHTS, I will support him, Israel, and Yinon! but not before.

    • TecumsehUnfaced

      You already told us you were a clown. Do you wear a ZioNazi T-shirt showing a fetus with its head blown off and the legend, “Two with one bullet”?

  • Rob

    God bless the unity of Turkey, Iran, Syria, Iraq and Russia. They can eliminate US Israel well trained commando army commanders just within few months. Their airports and military terrorist training camps are in missile targets.

  • شەیدا عبدالکریم عثمان

    For all anti Kurdish remember if not kurdish peshmerga your wife’s sisters and mothers being fuckd by isis and being sex’s slave

    • TecumsehUnfaced

      ISIS = Israeli Secret Investigation Service

      • شەیدا عبدالکریم عثمان

        Lol

      • شەیدا عبدالکریم عثمان

        Islamic Syria Iraq State

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          = ZioNazi proxies.

          • شەیدا عبدالکریم عثمان

            Fuck you :-)

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Hearing the truth makes you disintegrate into obscenity, snowflake?

            BREAKING: Former Israeli Defense Minister Confirms Israeli Collaboration with ISIS in Syria
            April 23, 2017 By Richard Silverstein
            https://www.richardsilverstein.com/2017/04/23/breaking-former-israeli-defense-minister-confirms-israeli-collaboration-isis-syria/
            ++++++++++++++++++
            Tel Aviv Pays Al Qaeda Fighters’ Salaries: The Syrian War’s Worst Kept Secret That Could Become Israel’s Nightmare
            Yes, Israel is supporting Syrian rebels, but this goes beyond cash and aid: Israel hopes the rebels will serve as a buffer against Hezbollah and a resurgent Assad, a strategy that could easily backfire
            By Richard Silverstein
            Global Research, July 04, 2017
            Middle East Eye 30 June 2017

            http://www.globalresearch.ca/tel-aviv-pays-al-qaeda-fighters-salaries-the-syrian-wars-worst-kept-secret-that-could-become-israels-nightmare/5597339

          • شەیدا عبدالکریم عثمان

            I like talking to human not animals

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            So you don’t like being among your own kind, so come here and bother us instead. Have you talked to your vet yet about this?

          • شەیدا عبدالکریم عثمان

            You should ask your mom and dad if I talk too them

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Your vet has to check you for rabies first.

          • شەیدا عبدالکریم عثمان

            So that’s what you parent say

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Nope! But get checked anyway,

          • شەیدا عبدالکریم عثمان

            That’s good for you to check better be safe than sorry !

    • Jonathan Cohen

      But will the Iraqi Peshmerga now defend their ABORTION RIGHTS?????

      • شەیدا عبدالکریم عثمان

        sorry but in our country their is no law on a abortion so as a women your free to choose ! Kurdistan is a democratic country ….and for your correction their has never been or will never be a Iraqi peshmerga only Kurdish are peshmerga mate not fucking dirty Iraqi !

        • Jonathan Cohen

          You are talking about the area containing Irbil, right? no abortion ban in or near Irbil? Or are you talking about Rojava? near Raqqa? which I already know has abortion rights? If so, then power to you!

      • Vitex

        See above

      • Vitex

        Do jewish babies get aborted too, Jonathan?

        • Jonathan Cohen

          Yes they do.

          • Vitex

            Wouldn’t that be murder, to a talmudist?

  • Sherwani Alli

    How you prouf that news maybe is not right thanks

    • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

      What makes you think it’s wrong can you offer any proof or is that just your opinion.

  • Rafik Chauhan

    barzani kurds will pay heavy price by becoming pawn and salve of this us/Zionist. kurds are nothing but racist and want to remove everyone other then kurds from the place they occupy and stolen. there is no difference between IOF/SDF/PHESMERGA ALL SAME FROM ONE MOTHER

  • Fake news, we in South Africa will never allow military activity within our borders

    • Jonathan Cohen

      I wondered about that South Africa bit, especially after Israel armed Apartheid, one would not expect South Africa to cooperate with Israel, though South Africa does defend ABORTION RIGHTS and so might train Kurdish pilots to bomb Iraqi abortion banners regardless of Israel.

      • Vitex

        Fucking talmudic shill

        • Cyriak Papasissis

          Take it with a pinch of salt , Jonathan is just spewing humorous crescendo

    • Vitex

      You wish. Aerosud are arming and equipping aircraft for the Gabonese airforce as we speak. Where do you suppose those pilots get trained?

      • Vitex

        Look at the topic Mirage F1 on Wikipedia and scroll down a bit

  • dutchnational

    There are two points to make about this report.

    Firstly is it correct
    Secondly, what are the implications.

    Is this report correct. There are so many allegations here that I doubt there is just one answer.

    Do I think Israeli forces etc etc are crawling all over KRG (I assume they are talking about KRG), delivering massive amounts of weapons, smuggling out oil under IS disguise?

    No, not at all. Large scale activities like this are very difficult to hide, certainly over a longer period. So this is imo fake news, based upon conspiracy theories.

    Is it possible there are kurdish pilots trained in Israel and South Africa?

    South Africa under a black ANC government seems very unlikely to me. Kurdish pilots trained by Israelis? I do not consider it likely, but possible, yes. Israeli pilots flying US planes and attacking Hezbollah, Iranian forces? Very unlikely. As the planes are US, US will be blamed anyhow, so why would US use Israeli pilots? No reason at all.

    Implications : Imo at this time none.

    However, I have wondered, elsewhere I think, what would happen if Israel were to do a Crimea on KRG/Iraq?. The day KRG declares independence, Israel recognises the country, sends in a stream of cargoplanes with sophisticated weapons and fighter planes and SOF and makes a fait accompli, just like Russia did. They might even have some little green man, just like Russia.

    Likely scenario?

    Not completely. Given an unfriendly airspace in between, not likely at all. But that airspace is even now just as unfriendly and the report claims lots of Israeli weapons in KRG.

    So Israel has bought the klingon cloaking device to transport arms invisibly?

    • Vitex

      Yes it is possible. Regardless of the ANC government, who are a bunch of black goons, the South Africans maintain very advanced aerospace industry capacity. Last I heard they had an entire Mirage F1 fleet in mothballs which have had upgraded avionics. SA also has a very close relationship with the zionists – plenty of jewish interests there.

      • dutchnational

        Israel has the mothballed kfir fighters. SA is not impossible but, as I said, imo unlikely.

        Nice comment though.

  • Travis Kelso

    Looks like the Israelis are playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers.

    • stringball

      Because they’re a superior race, right?

      • Travis Kelso

        Well according to this article, Israel is really the “Wizard of Oz”, pulling all of the strings.

        • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

          They are too weak and the real puppet masters are the Rotschildes ,Rockefellers,Soros etc. Israel is extremely weak and their hubris is getting to them. Avi Leiberman is terrified that Israel will be destroyed as they know there is a storm coming as their invasion plans have been revealed to Hezbollah already.

          The “Wizard of Oz” was exposed as a coward, thief and a weak timid little man, by a Scarecrow,Tinman,Lion,a little girl and her dog Toto.

    • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

      They don’t even know how to play it well even , they presume it’s chess looks like backgammon to me.

      • Travis Kelso

        Well according to this article its one Giant conspiracy theory. Can’t it be just what it has been all along? The US should’ve never invaded Iraq and once it did, it should’ve never left. Can’t it be that simple? Why does it have to be this puppet master bull crap?

        • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

          They say too many cooks spoil the broth , just happens when nobody tastes the dish before serving it.

  • dutchnational

    I gave my thoughts on this in another comment here.

    Let me just say that I applaud Israel if it can give KRG, and Northern Syria, help and support. Both political and, if possible, also military.

    • TecumsehUnfaced

      You just want to see the evil ZioNazi thugs out of Europe do to the whole Middle East the same horrors they did to Palestine.

  • Alex Saman

    Arminian genocidewas a big mistake,.
    Germans , americans, russians and other nations killed a lot of innocent peoples.
    Half of Turkey was a Grek region, American accupaid and killed a lot of nativ americans and mexicans.
    Whay you people forget who was actually behind all regions problems for more than 400 years, it was not the Kurds. We dont need to forget the Armenian Genocide but you dont need to have thise much of hate as Christian. What you need? kill more millions of kurds? is that will make you satisfeid? Well, Sadam killed a lot of them, Isis killed a lot of them , Erdoghan and Turkey did the same, Iran killed a lot . Think , and God bless you!

    • Solomon Krupacek

      i bless the god and kill the kurds :P

  • fareed asim

    what a 3rd class commentary.

    • Terra Cotta Woolpuller

      What an asinine comment.

  • Solomon Krupacek

    VX against kurds.

  • gustavo

    Evil mind never stop until it is exterminated, or controlled.

  • Lone Wolf

    This is FAKE news …

    • Olypious

      Yeah… I’ve got hard time believing this.

  • Hardy Rockerz

    Kurdistan – Salahuddin Al-Ayubi

  • Jens Holm

    The pick above should have been a bed for a baby or a stable for sheep. How can it even be possible to land here.

  • PZIVJ

    OMG
    We should all go to Veterans Today for our news!
    This article is beyond stupid! :DDDDDDDDD

  • Jens Holm

    Kind of funny so many can believe this stuff. hahaha

  • Jens Holm

    The quote “divede and rule” is not learn from Britts at all. Julius Ceaser of the Roman empire was much earlier running Rome winning some well known battles.

    The was written i Latin and known in all history books in the world exept in the arabic veterans version.

  • Perot

    This is just a bullshit propaganda that would pave the way for an ethnic cleansing and genocide against Kurds.

  • Gavin Allen

    “ISIS is, in fact, a Kurdish force inside some regions of Iraq” – truly pathetic nonsense from southfront. The morons writing this crap really need to grow the fuck up.

  • dontlietome

    So when is the RU Airforce going to take the final step and declare the skies of Syria a NO-FLY zone ?????????????? This would be an easy cure to a lot of ills.

  • Gershon Perry

    Is this news or Israel bashing?

  • john

    Don’t matter what the Israelis do. Syria will destroy their murderous intent. It has stood against all invading forces, including the European mob and the sick Saudis that have backed ISIS, and with the help of Russia and Hezbollah is doing very nicely. And don’t forget, just a dozen years ago Hezbollah brought them to their knees and Israel’s great and brave soldiers ran back to their mammies and daddies to have their wounds licked. It’s just a matter of time before Israel crumbles and pays for its horrendous crimes against humanity, especially against children. Karma is a divine law. No one escapes it. We all pay for our wrong doings. Would not want to be Netanyahu, Bush, Thatcher . . . their like.

  • dutchnational

    After all the blah blah of the 244 (incl my own) comments here on this subject, it would be nice if SF could do a follow up on this article. I assume that after the initial report, there must be or will be reports by others on this subject.

  • Pampi Ta

    Veteran Today is not a truthfull media.

  • Mikronos

    Any potential Kurdistan is going to need a first world air force. For the only way in and out will have to be by air.

    The Israeli Air force however won’t be able to provide much more than that training.