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Is US Conspiring To Sink Russian Black Sea Fleet Ships?

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Is US Conspiring To Sink Russian Black Sea Fleet Ships?

Russian warships are seen during a rehearsal for the Navy Day parade in Sevastopol, Crimea, July 24, 2015.

“The US is preparing a plan to destroy the [Russian] Black Sea Fleet.”

Written by Drago Bosnic, independent geopolitical and military analyst

On 20 May, in an exclusive for Reuters, the US government announced it would be providing advanced anti-ship and land-attack missiles to the Kiev regime, in yet another major escalatory move aiming to prolong the conflict and make it as bloody as possible for both sides. While some might dismiss such statements as simply being a part of the information, or more precisely, disinformation war, they should be taken extremely seriously, as it certainly wouldn’t be the first time the political West, with the US at its helm, delivered advanced weapons to the Kiev regime. To make matters worse, an adviser employed by the Ukrainian Ministry of Internal Affairs, Anton Gerashchenko, stated that the US will be “sinking Russian ships in the Black Sea.” His exact (now deleted) tweet stated:

“The US is preparing a plan to destroy the [Russian] Black Sea Fleet. The effective work of the Ukrainians on [Russian] warships convinced [the US] to prepare a plan to unblock the [Ukrainian] ports. Deliveries of powerful anti-ship weapons are being discussed.”

The Ukrainian official was referring to the aforementioned Reuters report on the US plan to provide the regime with the old “Harpoon” anti-ship missiles, as well as the newer and more advanced NSM (Naval Strike Missile), which can be used both as an anti-ship or land-attack weapon. The “Harpoon” is a subsonic, all-weather, over-the-horizon, anti-ship missile developed and manufactured by Boeing Defense, Space & Security (historically McDonnell Douglas) with a range of up to 220-250 km (depending on the source), costing around $1.5 million apiece. The NSM, also a subsonic missile, has a dual, anti-ship and land-attack capability. The missile’s exact range is classified, but it can go as far as 200 km or more, depending on the flight profile. It costs up to $2.2 million per unit.

Three State Department officials and two Congressional sources told Reuters that the White House was still working on the details for providing the Kiev regime with these advanced weapons. According to the sources, logistical issues and “the possibility the US would have to remove a launcher from one of its ships to send to Ukraine are current obstacles to completing the transfer”. Rather disturbingly, when responding to a question from Newsweek, the State Department did not deny it was working on a plan to target the Russian Black Sea fleet. “As the conflict is changing, so too is our military assistance to deliver the critical capabilities Ukraine needs for today’s fight as Russia’s forces engage in a renewed offensive in eastern Ukraine,” a spokesperson said.

However, the US DoD (Department of Defense) did issue a denial of the controversial claims made by the Ukrainian Internal Ministry’s official. “I can tell you definitively that that’s not true,” Pentagon spokesman John Kirby told reporters last Thursday. Still, the Pentagon’s denial refers only to the Ukrainian official’s claim the US was going to enable Ukraine to sink the Black Sea fleet and did not apply to the proposed anti-ship missiles transfer, which further adds to the confusion regarding this very serious issue.

It also remains unclear how Ukraine would be able to target Russian ships by itself. The US and NATO would either need to provide Ukraine with the necessary ISR (intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance) capabilities or, worse yet, directly provide ISR information on the location and possible movement of Russian Black Sea fleet ships, which the Kremlin might see as an act of war. The US government, including US President Joe Biden, and the military continue to give controversial and ambiguous statements, oftentimes denying what was clearly stated by their colleagues, which greatly contributes to the atmosphere of distrust and exponentially increases the likelihood of an uncontrollable escalation.

Gerashchenko’s claims that the attack would help to open up Ukraine’s ports are both false and misplaced, as the Kiev regime was the party which released hundreds of sea mines, many of which drifted apart as far as the Bosphorus, over 600 km to the south of Odessa. Russia currently controls the Black Sea and maintains a blockade. However, the blockade is not aimed against civilian shipping, but possible major NATO arms deliveries to the Kiev regime forces. The United Nations has called for an easing of restrictions in the Black Sea to allow food exports from Ukraine to help alleviate global food shortages.

Russia offered a diplomatic solution. Last Thursday, the Russian government proposed lifting the blockage in exchange for the removal of sanctions. The Russian Foreign Ministry stated the problem clearly goes beyond the military blockade and includes Western sanctions which are restricting fertilizer exports. “You have to not only appeal to the Russian Federation but also look deeply at the whole complex of reasons that caused the current food crisis. [Sanctions] interfere with normal free trade, encompassing food products including wheat, fertilizers and others,” Deputy Foreign Minister Andrey Rudenko said.

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Retired Troll

US is desperate as Russia is slowly grinding down the Ukie Nazis. Harpoons will make no difference.

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James

Russia needs to focus on liberating the whole coast of Black Sea all the way to Moldova. Odessa should be the next target. These Harpoons are useless if the Kiev Nazis have no coast. In any case Russian airpower will wipe them out before they are even unpacked in Lviv. Just to get the message across the US “embassy” in Kiev which now serves as a CIA and NATO command post should be leveled. It is a legitimate war target,. The repulsive Jew Soros wants WW3.

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SpecOps

US embassies are known to be used for everything from spy bases to CIA Black Sites..

James

For all practical purposes, the US embassy in Warsaw is the command and control center for this undeclared war on the Russian Federation. The US had bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade just on the mere pretext that it had issued a press statement condemning the NATO illegal bombing of Serbia. In this case US and its NATO puppets are directly engaged in killing Russians, so under international law Russia is totally justified in attacking US warmongers interests on Ukrainian soil.

Zoltan Novacs

Floundering andfuming Volodymyr Zelenskyy accuses Western countries of lacking “unity” over Ukraine, citing differing positions on weapons supplies to Kyiv and disagreements within the NATO military alliance. The reports of Zelensky lashing out at Germany, Hungary and Italy surfaced after Ukrainian military faces imminent collapse.

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Ashok Varma

Evil Jew agenda of open hatred against Russia and Orthodox at display at Davos:

“Civilization will not survive Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. We need to defeat Putin as soon as possible to save our civilization,” Soros concluded his speech with these words during a dinner at the World Economic Forum.

Karl Marx

As Soros and the rest are actively spreading man made bio weapons around the planet to depopulate as many people as possible…what a joke.

Pete

The Soro’s ole men billionaire club is getting desperate, the mighty empire of lies is desintegrating right before their eyes and there is nothing they can do to stop this from happening!

paul

🚨 Russian troops are just 25km away from encircling Ukraine’s elite special forces in the most decisive major victory for Vladimir Putin in the Donbas.

Russian forces have taken control of three Donetsk region towns including Svitlodarsk, regional governor Pavlo Kyrylenko told a local affiliated radio station. He also reported that “Ukrainian units had staged a strategic withdrawal to better defensive positions”. However, independent media questioned his account as reports of mass AFU surrender surface.

Reuters shows surrendering AFU units complaining about low morale and poor leadership. New video from a Ukr disgruntled unit

This time members of the 71st Ter-Def Bgd with the usual complaints. Badly equipped and led. Asked to carry out suicidal orders and so on. The brigade commander was ordered by Zelensky to shoot surrendering forces, but refused and says war is over for Ukraine.

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GMC

I disagree – no offense J – I think since I’m sitting in Crimea as I type – the Russians should mine the Odecca harbors , then skip any advance from the sea and head overland from Crimea – straight to Transnistria. This will cut off Odecca from both ways and let all those Canadian and mideast headchoppers that have been piling in from Moldova and Romania – time to understand that they are Fucked.

thoughtful

They could be launched from Poland.

Pedo Andy from Fcukingham Palace

SLAVA ROSSIYA! Russian general Dvornikov, ” WE ARE NOT LEAVING ANY OF THE LIBERATED LANDS”.

Ashok Varma

Jews are now openly calling for the destruction of Russia and Indian delegation at Davos condemned such genocidal talk against Russia and called for a more peaceful approach. However, it does show how much the Judea is coming out of the shadows. They want to defeat Russia at any cost. It seems the house of cards of Judea is crumbling and they’re panicking. Now, listen to their kingpin Soros: Russia must be defeated at all costs and the west must control Russia’s resources and future.

Zelenskys incompetence helps Russia

I wonder if this conflict will spill over into Syria with Israel attacking. I wonder if Russia would ever go head to head with Israel in the middle East. Will Israel destroy Damascus? Things are suggesting these biblical possibilities….

FlorianGeyer

It is even more important for Russia to annex ALL Ukie land.

If any part of Ukraine is not part of the annexed land it will enable the NATO scum to continue arming proxy terror gangs. NATO will have to decide if they really want WW3 that would destroy Israel as well.

The self styled elite NATO scum who think they can hide in bunkers until the nuclear dust settles are in for a rude awakening. Their money will be worth nothing when they slither out of their bunkers, wherever they are.

JHKdad

Maybe Russians just love to play death games for fun. You should ask yourself, who is the instigator? Who’s constantly smearing Russia? Who’s been strangling Russia with all possible methods? Who’s been using any dirty trick just to diss Russia? Who is the one with a life mission just to destroy Russia?

Sanctions, Nord Stream 2 sabotage, Olympic banning, framing, isolating, stealing… How do you ignore all this?

Annon5228

Moskva 2.0 incoming

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Pedo Andy from Fcukingham Palace

Not sure about that, but Russia will use a tactical nuke on Kiev if any Russian ships are targeted by NATO faggots. SLAVA ROSSIYA!

jorge

Incoming on a yankee aircraft carrier group.

rex

And the sixth fleet razed. This game can be played by two.

BanderiteLivesDon'tMatter

The “Coalition of the willing” ship “no sail zone” (lol) being attempted to “allow grain export from Odessa” sounds fun. All you need is a few countries willing to lose a few thousand citizens and a piece of large military hardware you are willing to donate as an artificial reef et voila! what a joke P.S. has anyone explained just how many naval mines ukrops seeded in the waters off Odessa? I’m sure they dont effect transport ships or NATO ones. P.S.S. You seem confidant Odessa will still be in Ukrop claws by the time you field ships to do battle. it may just be a contaminated wasteland by then.

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Robomemo

It also would need Turkey to let them through which they won’t do using the1936 Montreux Convention Turkey has banned all warships from transit which it has a right to do in times of war.

Even in times of peace no foreign submarines may pass and there is a limit to foreign ships amounts and how long they are allowed to stay.

rex

The whore Truss is ignorant and dumb as fuck. She doesn’t even know that closing the Bosphorus means that NO military ship can go in or out. Only military ships from Black Sea countries can go in, if they pledge to go to their home ports and NOT take part in war activities.

There is zero chance that with the Bosphorus closed these mythical coalition of willing ships will let in by the turkish side. In a time when Turkey is at odds with nato and finland/sweden/greece.

Rick

Time for the Ruskies to announce that if another ship is sunk in the Black sea they will take direct military action on whatever country provided it. Ruskies have to be tougher or they will surely regret it later.

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Disinfo

It sounds like Russia needs to follow the US example and start arming the Iranians, NK and various other world regimes anti-ship missiles and technology.

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Disinfo

In all likelihood, Odessa will probably be under attack or captured long before they could get the Ukrainians trained and up and running with the Harpoon. If anything, this has just guaranteed that Russia will take ALL of the Ukranian Black Sea border, as far in-land as needed to ensure that these missiles can’t hit their ships.

Caesar

Good observations. 😊

FlorianGeyer

All it would take though is for NATO harpoon trained soldiers to dress up in Ukie uniforms etc.

James

Russia needs to be more aggressive in its foreign policy and overtly arming Iran with a few dozen SU-35S and modern missiles will change the global power balance in a Jew York minute. The Persians are not afraid to use their weaponry on the US occupation forces in either Iraq or Syria and that will cause more than headache.

BanderiteLivesDon'tMatter

Iranians in no position to do any damage to the USA. but if you armed CUBA with Iskanders and maybe a satan or two, you might just see a reaction from those too coward to declare war and fight it in the sidelines.

hipp

A single Harpoon launcher send by Denmark and another by US can make a lot of trouble if they arrive on coast or nearby coast. The long range of missiles make possible operating the launcher at a large distance from coast, making it hardly to destroy if shipment are escaped by Russia intelligence/aviation/missiles. But Russia fleet are not the only way to maintain a blockade. Russia can deploy maritime mines by aviation, by missiles or by submarines. And, also, here is the old way, ww2-style. Destroy the port, make it useless by heavy bombing. Now Ukraina export using railroad and ports of Romania and Poland. Also, once Donbas is conquered, these agricultural exports will decrease a lot, economical importance of operating Odessa lowering.

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BanderiteLivesDon'tMatter

as much trouble as if Russia started treating ALL NATO shipping as targets with their anti ship missiles. Slippery slope.

FlorianGeyer

The Russian liberated Ukraine need last years harvest to survive until the 2023 harvest is complete, as very little grain will be harvested this year.

Caesar

The best description of the policy of US towards the war in Ukraine, to give it my best shot, is that like a dog who is turning around nonstop trying to catch its tail.

It is rather intriguing to scrutinize.

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Zoltan Novacs

Orban says EU summit should not discuss Russian oil embargo

Hungary is not in a position to agree to the proposed EU sanctions until all outstanding issues resolved, Prime Minister Viktor Orban says in a letter to Charles Michel.

hipp

What are know about sending MQ9-Reaper modular UAV from US to Ukraine ? (real/fake, number, present/future, etc).

Machi

Hopeless crappy old things, even the Houthis in Yemen have downed a few in recent years!

BanderiteLivesDon'tMatter

Well it would be a good indicator that the turkish one is garbage.

Robomemo

Yes they are planning to destroy the Russian ships. Not sure what Russia will do about it they didn’t do much when they sank the flagship. ( We all know Ukraine wasn’t capable of doing this without NATO help )

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paul

Moskva was hit by a US operated Harpoon.

Josh

These guys are nuttier than Trump’s army of online storytellers.

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Sephiroth

More and more weapons will be handed over to Ukraine. Everyone is now so interested in assisting Ukraine. What made them so interested? It’s the incompetence of the Russian Military. If they had successfully executed operation, one would have thought twice before siding with Ukraine, but now, they know that the russians are dumb and they can get away with it. Russian ships will be at the bottom of the sea. It’s a matter of time. Either the military or the counter weapons (SAMs) don’t work.

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Russian

Russians are too frightened of US to attack western weapon supplies at the source itself.

Paul

I wonder whether the Russians are working on reducing the manpower on ships and making them mostly robotic. If we learned anything from the Moskva, it’s that war ships should be made smaller and capable of ship swarms with remote controlled vessels. If you can have AI tanks, when are the AI ships coming online? Just a thought.

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Shah Pahlavi

““An eye for an eye” leaves everyone blind “ MLK

As humans take metals and other chemicals from the rock of the earth and design machines, so our Creator did to bring us into existence. Be careful with how one proceeds, the Creator (Elohim, Allah or God as he is known) made known his divine love for all Creation. Destroy it at your own peril. There will be eternal consequences.

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Pedo Andy from Fcukingham Palace

Fuck off asshole.

Bobo

Replace the Russian military ships with submarines! And aircraft near the southern Ukrainian ports. As for the US plan to destroy Russian ships in the black sea area. Any nato ships found in the black sea should be sunk immediately. Use the submarines to target nato military ships in the following areas the black sea the Mediterranean including any Israeli military ships should be sunk as the are Washingtons proxy in the area. Offer the Chinese military with the agreement of the Syrian government a base there and also in a Russian controlled black sea port. Also China should immediately send ships submarines and troops to secure their economic interests in the horn of Africa. Also north Korea should declare a maritime exclusion zone of 500 miles around her territory.

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Russian

But Russians are too frightened of the US to do anything specified above.

Ed Theman

Russia should actually give Iran and Syria a few short ranged nukes, just enough range to hit Israel.

hunter bidé lab pork !

The us should sink all of is bad ships and say it was putin !!! then they can make a party with drugs !!! sac ion is one anus and F Off for ever !!!! but first they should all change sex and be monkeys with masks orders from putin !!!

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USA#1!

MWA-HA-HA-HA-haaaaaa…!!!

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lucas grijander

You should have shot down spy and orion aircrafts over the black se a along time ago. This will show determination to the NATO.

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NATO is laughing at Comedian whore Zelensky

Russia’s strategy is GENIUS. Lol. The UN proposed unblocking the black Sea and Russia proposes removing sanctions. Its about the food supply so what would be better for food security than removing sanctions? Checkmate. Just brilliant.

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Boggs

Too bad Russian dreams have zero to do with reality.

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Siberian

Time to unleash the Russian underwater arsenal…

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Russian

US is providing missiles and isr to Ukraine to sink Russian naval ships. Four ships including the flagship of black sea fleet are already at the bottom of the sea. But Russians are afraid of hitting US naval ships.

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Marcelo Rodriguez

Cualquier entrega por parte de la OTAN de misiles como los los Harpoon o los NSM serían el principal objetivo para destruir por parte de las fuerzas aerospaciales Rusas y sus misiles de presicion, además de que el mar Negro debe de estar patrullado por submarinos Rusos. Tampoco creo que está entrega de este tipo de armas, si se llegará a lograr cambiaría la situación táctica y estratégica de la operación de desnasificacion y desmiliritacion en curso.

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kotromanic

Perhaps the chinese can help and send some freighters on “accidental” collision course with us und uk navy ships.

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Boggs

The only thing they will collide with is US anti-ship missiles or torpedoes.

Martin Rapavý

Of, course, that is typical of the U.K. and U.K. navy, attacking civilian ships, but then the will meet some fine Chinese anti-ship missiles in order to feed some fish in the China Sea.

jeffglobal

It’s always good to have a dream… it should be one that doesn’t cause your own demise though.

If the US sinks anything the Russians will use a hypersonic missile and sink something of theirs in turn. The Russians would have to sink more than one ship, because the US though 2nd in the world in numbers of ships to China, still has more ships than Russia, because Russia is the premiere land power.

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Boggs

Sink them! Sink them all! Then nuke the Moscow shithole for good measure!

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Martin Rapavý

Why are Ukrops mixing with the soil so profusely?!

GMC

This should be interesting – wait till Russia mines Odecca and then in stead of invading Odecca – bypasses the port city and heads from Crimea , straight to Transnistria – cutting off Odecca – so they can starve and lose their products from Ukraine – Like they did to Crimea in the early stages after the MaiDan. Karmas a bitch. –

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