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India Shows Wreckage Of US-Made Air-To-Air Missile, Media Says Pakistani Warplane Fired It Before Being Shot Down

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On February 28, the Indian authorities showcased the wreckage of a US-made beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile that was reportedly launched by a Pakistani warplane during an aerial engagement over the Line of Control (LoC) in the region of Kashmir a day earlier.

India Shows Wreckage Of US-Made Air-To-Air Missile, Media Says Pakistani Warplane Fired It Before Being Shot Down

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The missile was identified as the AIM-120C-5 Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missile (AMRAAM), which has a range of more than 105km and an active radar seeker. The Pakistani Air Force (PAF) is known for arming its F-16s with this type of missiles.

According to the Economist Times, the PAF F-16 launched the AIM-120 during an aerial engagement with a Mig-21 Bison of the Indian Air Force (IAF). However, the missile missed its target.

According to an Indian version of the events, wing commander Abhinandan Varthaman, who was reportedly flying in the targeted Mig-21 Bison, escapted the AIM-120 and engaged the PAF F-16 and fired a Russian-made R-73 missile at it, effectively shooting it down.

All of these claims were dismissed by Pakistan, whose air force shoot down two warplanes of the IAF over the Pakistani-controlled part of Kashmir on February 28.

The escalation between the two nuclear-armed nations began on February 14, when a suicide bombing in the Indian-controlled part of Kashmir killed 42 Indian paramilitary soldiers and injured many others. The attack provoked a fierce response by India, which bombed an alleged military camp of the attackers within Pakistan territory.

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  • Smaug

    Yes, we’ve sold many weapons to Pakistan, back when they were helping us fight al-Qaeda and the Taliban. Although, contrary what to the Indian’s think, we do not give a rip about Kashmir.

    • Zionism = EVIL

      Pakistan has the most favored non-NATO ally status and US still supplies all the spares and weaponry. The PAF used their Sidewinder and AIM-120 quite liberally all over Kashmir and Punjab air space this week. India really got a bloody nose and will not just sulk and make idiotic unsubstantiated claims. The PAF CAP missions were all F-16 and the ground attacks were by Mirage 5 DPA ROSE. The JK-17 Thunders were used in a sensible mix with F-16 providing top cover. The Iranians used their F-14A and F-4E in the same manner, as the F-14A Persian Cats have a better BVR radar.

  • Sinbad2

    The North Koreans have an American plague bomb in their museum, and nobody cares, why would anybody care about this?

    • Zionism = EVIL

      Well as I told the kids here a million times, DPRK will never disarm or denuke. Kim has got the fat orange dotard Trump by the curlies.

  • RichardD

    This legacy equipment can be effectively upgraded and armed with modern ordnance for a small fraction of the cost of new equipment. So that it’s effective for some missions.

    • RichardD

      “Specifications (MiG-21-93)

      Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21PF

      General characteristics

      Crew: 1
      Length: 14.7 m (48 ft 2 in)
      Wingspan: 7.154 m (23 ft 6 in)
      Height: 4 m (13 ft 6 in)
      Wing area: 23 m² (247.6 ft²)
      Empty weight: 5,846 kg (12,880 lb)
      Loaded weight: 8,725 kg (19,230 lb) with 2 × K-13A missiles
      Max. takeoff weight: 9,800 kg (21,600 lb)
      Powerplant: 1 × Tumansky R-25-300 afterburning turbojet
      Dry thrust: 40.21 kN (9,040 lbf)
      Thrust with afterburner: 69.62 kN; 97.1 kN WEP (15,650 lbf; 21,825 lbf WEP)

      Performance

      Maximum speed:
      At sea level: Mach 1.05 (1,300 km/h; 808 mph)
      At 13,000 m (42,640 ft): Mach 1.76 (2,175 km/h; 1,351 mph)
      Range: 1,470 km (910 mi; 790 nmi) at 10,000 m (32,800 ft) with 2 × K-13A missiles and 800 l (180 imp gal; 210 US gal)
      Service ceiling: 17,500 m (57,400 ft)
      Rate of climb: 225 m/s (44,280 ft/min)
      Wing loading: 452.2 kg/m² (92.7 lb/f²)
      Maximum g-load: 8.5 g
      Landing speed: 350 km/h (190 kn), usually with a drogue parachute[154]

      Armament

      Guns: 1 × internal 23 mm Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-23L autocannon with 200 rounds
      Hardpoints: 4 with a capacity of up to 2,000 kg (4,400 lb) of stores and provisions to carry combinations of:
      Rockets: S-24
      Missiles:
      Air-to-air missiles:
      K-13
      K-5
      R-60
      R-73
      R-77
      R-27
      Air-to-surface missiles:
      Kh-66 Grom
      Kh-25
      Kh-31
      Bombs:
      KAB-500KR TV-guided bomb
      4 × 500 kg (1,100 lb) bombs

      – Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21 –

      Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21

      • RichardD

        https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/MiG-21_Lancer_C_cropped.jpg

        – Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21 –

        Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21

      • Zionism = EVIL

        The ones that got whacked were Zionist upgraded BISON standard with better avionic and weapons suits, but no match for F-16 and JK-17/FC1.

        • RichardD

          The Indians say that they shot down a Pak fighter, presumably with a Mig-21.

          • Zionism = EVIL

            They are telling lies. In this day and age you can not hide a downed plane. If they had, they would have shown the debris and pilot. Indians are embarrassed and have now backed down. I have to admit that the Pakistanis have been very open and truthful all along.

          • Zionism = EVIL
          • RichardD

            Another dodge.

          • Zionism = EVIL

            Dodge? I am stating FACTS not childish drivel :) Get over it, Indians are liars and lost. That simple.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8707b113dfa28b78f268e7537fece171e3b6200df269d28542d8335801baa91f.jpg

          • RichardD

            You haven’t disproven them or me. I’ve disproven your stupidity numerous times.

          • Zionism = EVIL

            Not very relevant. You Indians are liars :)

          • RichardD

            You’re lying and you know it.

          • Zionism = EVIL

            I could not care less about Indian piss drinking liars or Pakistanis :)

          • RichardD

            The Indians say that the F-16 came down in Pak territory:

            “”Fact is that Indian Army units reported sighting two parachutes falling in PoK [Pakistani-occupied Kashmir] which were of two F-16 pilots shot down by the IAF MiG,” Air Vice Marshal Kapoor, said during the press conference.”

            – India Shows Proof U.S. Made F-16s And AIM-120 Missiles Were Used By Pakistan In Aerial Brawl –

            http://thedrive.com/the-war-zone/26689/india-shows-proof-u-s-made-f-16s-and-aim-120-missiles-were-used-by-pakistan-in-aerial-brawl

          • Zionism = EVIL

            Seriously, the dumb Indians are showing the casing of a AIM-120 in Kashmir and say the plane went down in Pakistan. It is beyond hilarious. As I have said, even in my days our F-4E had excellent gun cameras and recorded every kill. If the Indians have camera footage then SHOW ME!

          • Daniel Miller

            you do realise that the aircraft dosent just fall out of the sky when hit right?

        • RichardD

          The Mig-21s used in the engagement have evidently been upgraded to carry the R-27 missiles, which is still in service with the Russian and other militaries, and has several upgrades with up to 170m range depending on the variant. Making it an effective BVR standoff weapon depending on the circumstances.

  • Zionism = EVIL

    The poor Indians are really embarrassed as the Pakistanis have hit them hard. As I said initially, based on years of flying experience, the PAF dominated the skies and used everything they had. The Sidewinders and Sparrows are usual BVR weaponry for F-16.The AIM-120 Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missile, or AMRAAM, is a modern American beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile (BVRAAM) capable of all-weather day-and-night operations. The Pakistanis used a mix of Chinese Pl-9C, AIM9X and AIM 120. The pathetic Indians have picked up the debris of a spent AIM-120, perhaps the one that downed the SU-30MKI. Another interesting fact, that I gleaned through and knew anyway is the average PAF pilots age is 28 years, IAF over 42. The Indian idiots sent geriatrics to fight young men with better training and machines and lost. It is that simple.

    • RichardD

      The Indians could have sent Mig-29Ks. Would you want to go up against them in an F-16?

      • Zionism = EVIL

        As you know I am no fan on US, but in aerospace they are tops. The F-16 is a very versatile fighter and the Pakistanis have first rate pilots. The AIM-120 is deadly fire and forget missile. The problem with IAF is that they have a pilot shortage and their Russian junk planes have only 40% operational status. As I posted before, India may have more planes, but 400 of them are pure junk MIG-21 and other garbage like Jaguars. Indians pilots are old and it is a crime sending these old men to fight against better US planes and younger aggressive pilots.

        • RichardD

          That’s a dodge. You didn’t answer the question.

          • Zionism = EVIL

            F-16 can run circles around a MIG-29. The USAF shot down all Iraqi MIGS with F-14 in the Gulf war. The MIG 29 is an old flying junk, even Iran which as 40 of them uses them as a back up for the trusty F-14A.

          • RichardD

            Another dodge, you still didn’t answer the question. Many would disagree that the F-16 can run circles around Mig-29s. The Indian Mig-29s are the 4++ generation K models.

          • Zionism = EVIL

            I am from the school of reality, show me! If the Indians had trust in their MIG-29, they would have sent them up to challenge the F-16 which ruled the skies.

          • RichardD

            From someone who’s had as much of their disinfo outed as you. And who repeatedly refuses to answer the question. I’ll go with qualified and competent experts who disagree with you.

          • Zionism = EVIL

            I can go by experience and evidence, not baloney. Indians got whacked pure and simple. In the days of smart phones and real time satellite imagery nothing can remain hidden. The idea of these forums is to post factual info and NOT fantasy. The US aircraft have no equals. Russia is a third world dump that produces JUNK. The Turks, Israelis and Pakistanis have been shooting down Russian junk for generations. A few years ago I met Russian airforce pilot Alexander Rutskoy,, who later on became a politician, he was shot down in Afghanistan by a PAF F-16 and had nothing but praise for the aggressiveness of PAF pilots and US aircraft, not to mention the Stinger MANPADS.

          • Zionism = EVIL
          • RichardD

            Really? This is an F-16 shot down by an S-200 over Israel just last year. The legacy Russian equipment has been taking down NATO planes for many years. Almost all of the US equipment of similar vintage was scrapped years ago. So whose equipment is literally junk?
            http://www1.cbn.com/sites/default/files/styles/original/public/media/standard/images/israelf16.jpg?itok=u3nqvtaW

          • Zionism = EVIL

            I am talking about air to air kills.

          • RichardD

            Like this one:

            “LCDR Scott Speicher was flying an F/A-18 Hornet fighter, BuNo 163484, when he was shot down by Iraqi aircraft 100 miles west of Baghdad, on the night of January 17, 1991, the first night of Operation Desert Storm.[1][2] His plane crashed in a remote, uninhabited wasteland[2] known as Tulul ad Dulaym 33°14′35.81″N 42°21′18.14″E.[8] He was the first combat casualty for American forces in the war.[2]

            The U.S. Navy maintained in a 1997 document that Speicher was downed by a surface-to-air missile.[9] However, an unclassified summary of a 2001 CIA report suggests that Speicher’s aircraft was shot down by a missile fired from an Iraqi aircraft,[8][10] most likely a MiG-25,[2] flown by Lieutenant Zuhair Dawood, 84th squadron of the Iraqi Air Force.[11] Speicher was at 28,000 feet and travelling at 0.92 Mach (540 Knots) when the front of the aircraft suffered a catastrophic event. The impact from the R-40 missile threw the aircraft laterally off its flight path between fifty and sixty degrees with a resulting 6 g minimum load.[8] A pilot on the same mission stated: “I’m telling you right now, don’t believe what you’re being told. It was that MiG that shot Spike down””

            – Scott Speicher –

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Speicher

          • Jimmy Jim

            F-18 lol not F-16…..

          • Ganga Prasad

            So how did serbia shoot down stealth f 117

          • BMWA1

            F16 was shown downed in video on Vesti.

          • RichardD

            Do you have a link?

          • BMWA1

            I look at Vesti News, Youtube often, there was a link a day or two ago on a short report with video footage here, the wreckage is certainly that from a downed aircraft payload, not an expended missile.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1anku6oNsHQ

            Not sure why the long debate on this. Main thing is that it did not escalate. I assume there are some trolls on site who like to play games.

          • Jimmy Jim

            hahahaha ruski liars…pants on fire….USA>USA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

        • Jimmy Jim

          USA>>>>>>>kicks ass…..buy f-16…….

        • Ganga Prasad

          Pakistani pilots are first rate jihadis who kill unarmed civilians and then flee

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  • Sephy

    So they show the wreckage of the missile launched by pakistan and say “Look, here is the proof we shot down a pakistani jet”. What a logic!!!

    • Zionism = EVIL

      Exactly, they have been severely embarrassed. The Zionist fuckers goaded a poorly trained Indian airforce into a losing fight with a far better opponent. Good article in the London Independent by Robert Fisk on how Israel pushed the Indians into a disastrous airstrike on trees and the Pakistanis who are some of the belligerent https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/746d750dc2fe4b2a16f9b64d831095d0c0ad831cabcca17f5e5d307f8d0c4c96.jpg and militarized people on earth, called the bluff and whacked India.

      • Jimmy Jim

        paks top gun?

    • Brother Thomas

      My thoughts exactly.

      • RichardD

        It went down in Pak territory.

        • Zionism = EVIL

          SHOW ME?

        • Zionism = EVIL
          • RichardD

            He’s talking about the Pak plane.

          • Zionism = EVIL

            Show me the debris? An F-16 can not be hidden up the arse :) Pakistan has 150 million mobile phones and smart phones for 197 million people and there would have been a million people taking selfies. Let’s get real The Indians are pathetic liars.

          • RichardD

            It depends where it went down and what the recovery consisted of.

          • Zionism = EVIL

            Dude, South Asia is the most populated nosey nate land. Even if a small car accident happens a million gawking faces show up to stare. Even in the 70’s when I spent some time there, the people just started at anything, especially any incident. If a plane went down, there would have been a million gawkers taking selfies.I don’t believe the Indians as they have been caught with their pants down by a more canny enemy. That is how it goes.

          • RichardD
          • H Eccles

            Looks like a discarded prop from an episode of Dr Who…

          • RichardD

            F-16 debris from being shot down by a MIG-21 using a R-27 air to air missile:
            https://img.timesnownews.com/story/1551341375-F16Pakistan.jpg

          • d’Artagnan

            That does look like an F-16 engine or fuselage. More like Russian metallurgy.

          • Jimmy Jim

            lol

          • RichardD

            “Pakistani officers are seen looking at the remains of the Pakistani F-16 fighter jet shot down by the Indian Air Force on Wednesday, in an image that has been circulated on social media.
            Sources in the Air Force (IAF) have confirmed that metal piece seen in the image is part of the F-16 wreckage.

            Those seen in the photo are commanding officers of Pakistan’s 7 Northern Light Infantry, said sources.

            The plane was shot down in an aerial combat between Indian and Pakistani warplanes yesterday, the first such confrontation in 48 years”

            – Wreckage Of Downed Pak F-16 Fighter Seen In PoK –

            https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/wreckage-of-downed-pak-f-16-seen-in-pok-2000649

          • Jimmy Jim

            liar, liar pants on fire buy mercan we kick ass………

          • zara ali

            Spot on!

          • RichardD

            – VIDEO Purportedly Showing Pakistani F-16 Shot Down by Indian MIG Goes Viral –

            https://sputniknews.com/asia/201902281072828764-india-pakistan-air-strike/

          • 1691

            Selfies?
            In the 70’s?
            Wow!

          • Ganga Prasad

            U terrorist, u trust the words of ur fellow terrorists only

          • Ganga Prasad

            So u r a terrorist

          • Heisenberg

            British made Advanced Jet Trainer (AJT) hawk fighter plane (A-3492) that crashed in 2018 in Odisha….

            Man, even in Pakistan defense forum all this bull crap propaganda was refuted!

          • Zionism = EVIL

            The FACT remains that Indians are telling fibs and can’t produce any evidence. If you have any PLEASE POST!

          • Heisenberg

            Until now the only certainty i have is that an IAF MIG-21 was shoot down.
            There are some some evidence that points to the AIM-120C-5 AMRAAM was in fact from Pakistan – but that doesn´t prove the F-16 was shoot down.
            The rest is propaganda and is not verified by independent sources!

          • Zionism = EVIL

            Sensible comment. I this day and age lies are easy to discredit. The Pakistanis with all their faults came out on top in this round. India will back off and its airforce is piss weak and very poorly trained or organized. Sending 1960’s Russian flying coffins against F-16 with young pilots is simple lunacy. Anyway, it is all over and Pakistan is back to normal with air traffic now open. There is lesson for countries like Syria and Iran though, hit back at bullies.

          • Joe Kerr

            Pakistan claims the MIG-21 was shot down by a JF-17, not an F-16.

          • d’Artagnan

            India has proved less reliable in their claims.

          • Jimmy Jim

            USA>USA buy mercan, we kick ass….

          • Joe Kerr

            Lick actually, as in Trump licking Adelson’s ass… while getting pumped by Netty.

          • Sinbad2

            USA>USA buy mercan, we lick ass….

          • Ganga Prasad

            Ur f 16 s ass was busted

          • Ganga Prasad

            Independent sources mean western ones which will never admit that their state of the art jet was shot down by a 1960 model plane

          • Ganga Prasad

            Sorry if We go to Pakistan to take photos of crashed f 16, jihadis like u living in Pakistan will kill us

        • Brother Thomas

          The only thing the used F-16 missile proves is that it was fired in the direction of India. To parade it as evidence of an F-16 being shot down is less than feeble.

      • Zionism = EVIL

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3ab63e8f5769fd23bbfcb4bc0ac13f4cbb8202da0607ed1ca675857bab4dc4d9.jpg

        A friend of mine just sent me photos of a dead Indian pilot which out of respect I will not post. He was burnt beyond recognition and are apparently from the SU-30 which took a direct hit from a AIM-120.

        • Heisenberg

          That is actually a foto of the Mi-17V-5 crash site near Budgam, 7 km from the Srinagar International Airport

          • Zionism = EVIL

            Yes, 6 dead in that and one civilian on the ground. A very bad showing for India, 2 jets and a MI-17 helo.

          • Zionism = EVIL

            India just fired its Air Chief for telling lies and misleading the government after such pathetic showing.

            Also, India on Thursday removed Air Marshal C Hari Kumar from the post of Western Air Command’s Air Officer Commanding-in-Chief.

            India presents Taiwanese missile as ‘proof’ of downed Pakistani F-16: source

          • Ganga Prasad

            So what happened to the second pilot whom imran Khan said was under treatment in Pakistan?

          • RichardD

            You’re spamming this thread with a ton of lies and stupidity.

            “As senior Indian Air Force (IAF) official Air Marshal Chandrashekharan Hari Kumar, commander-in-chief of the Western Air Command retired on February 28, reports of him being removed started floating in the Pakistani media.

            Some Pakistani journalists even took to Twitter to blame the perceived move on the air duel on Wednesday between Pakistani F-16s and Indian MiG 21s and the subsequent capture of Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman.

            However, IAF cleared the air, thwarted the rumours and posted visuals from the senior official’s retirement ceremony on Twitter.”

            – IAF commander retires, Pakistani media lies he was removed over Abhinandan’s capture –

            https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/iaf-commander-retires-pakistani-media-lies-he-was-removed-over-abhinandan-s-capture-1468221-2019-03-01

    • d’Artagnan

      There is not much logic in South Asia with their claims and counter claims, but apparently Pakistan has got the best of the Indians who put on a rather shambolic performance.

      • Sephy

        Yes, south Asians are stupids, but actually Pakistanis are the worst part of them.

    • zara ali

      That is the logic we have seen at display since 9/11 all around the globe haven’t we? It is the same logic used by American’s and Israelis – everyone who has been infected by the spirit of Zionism does the same… for them the crow is white, as long as they say it is white, it shall be white.

      • Jimmy Jim

        USA>USA…buy mercan, ruskie crap blown out of the sky again……

        • Ganga Prasad

          What happened to the pilot whom imran Khan said was under treatment in Pakistan

    • Jimmy Jim

      ho, ho, ho buy mercan, ruskie flying samovars stink..USA>USA>MAGA>MAGA

    • RichardD

      – VIDEO Purportedly Showing Pakistani F-16 Shot Down by Indian MIG Goes Viral –

      https://sputniknews.com/asia/201902281072828764-india-pakistan-air-strike/

      • Sephy

        i understand what you are trying to say, and i really want to believe it, but sadly, those images and footage are insufficient.

        • RichardD

          If there is conclusive or stronger evidence that it is Mig-21 rather than F-16 metal work, I haven’t seen it. The available evidence indicates that it’s F-16, not Mig-21 debris. The site was cordoned off and cleared by the Pak military quickly. And the evidenced suppressed.

          • Sephy

            i am not denying what you are saying, but cannot accept it either. more evidence is needed to come to a conclusion.

          • RichardD

            There are standards of conclusion. Both using the scientific method and judicial process. Using the scientific method the standards are hypothesis, theory and fact. In the US judicial process they are beyond a reasonable doubt in criminal cases, and a preponderance of evidence in civil cases, and probable cause or reasonable suspicion to initiate a criminal investigation.

            The evidence in this matter meets the evidence requirements for some standards of conclusion. You can request further discovery before reaching a conclusion. With the evidence in Pak custody and the Pak’s under US investigation for civil or criminal contract terms violation. It may or may not be forth coming for public examination. In this case there are non disclosure considerations pertaining to the F-16 allegations.

            It officially meets the US federal standard to initiate a preliminary investigation. Where it goes from here remains to be seen. I’ve drawn conclusions based on what’s available. If more evidence becomes available. It may confirm or change the conclusion that I’ve reached with what’s currently available.

            “The US State Department is investigating claims Pakistan improperly used a US-supplied F-16 jet against India this week, Indian media claims. The jet has been a bone of contention between the two nuclear powers.”

            – US looks into claims Pakistan misused F-16 fighter, as media war over Kashmir clash heats up –

            https://www.rt.com/news/452849-us-pakistan-f16-india-kashmir/

            “”We are aware of these reports and are seeking more information,” a State Department spokesperson said. “Due to non-disclosure agreements in Foreign Military Sales contracts, we cannot discuss the specifics of end user-agreements contained within,” Lt Col Kone Faulkner, a Defense Department spokesperson said.”

            – India Shares F-16 Evidence With US to Highlight Misuse, Says Brigade and Battalion HQs Were Targeted –

            https://www.news18.com/news/india/india-shares-f-16-evidence-with-us-to-highlight-misuse-says-brigade-and-battalion-hqs-were-targeted-2053143.html

    • RichardD

      F-16 debris from being shot down by a MIG-21 using a R-27 air to air missile:
      https://img.timesnownews.com/story/1551341375-F16Pakistan.jpg

    • RichardD

      This is a Mig-21 engine. It’s different from the wreckage.
      https://img1.etsystatic.com/196/0/10374207/il_340x270.1274491231_1s7u.jpg

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  • RichardD

    A lot of NATO planes have been shot down in air to air combat:

    – Post–World War II air-to-air combat losses –

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_combat_losses_of_United_States_military_aircraft_since_the_Vietnam_War

    • Zionism = EVIL

      We are talking about MIG29 in Arab airforces and the dumb Indians who have not downed a SINGLE F-16 in air combat. You kids are a HOOT!

      • RichardD

        You are trying to evade having been disproven and made a fool of so many times.

        • Zionism = EVIL

          :) SHOW ME! ROFLMAO

          • RichardD

            I’ve shown you many times. And you ignore the proof and go on to more stupidity and lies.

          • RichardD

            F-16 debris from being shot down by a MIG-21 using a R-27 air to air missile:
            https://img.timesnownews.com/story/1551341375-F16Pakistan.jpg

          • Sinbad2

            The pics are of different objects.
            The GE engine has a lattice type of pattern, the crumpled aluminium next to the soldier does not.

          • RichardD

            That’s because it’s twisted around and some of it is inside out and you’re looking at the underside of it. Blow it up and look at it closer.

        • Ganga Prasad

          He is a jihadi

      • RichardD

        You’ve claimed a lot of things, much of which has been disproven, including on this thread.

    • Sinbad2

      Yes but the US tends to cover up losses of American planes.
      When an FA-18 was shot down in Iraq, the US wouldn’t even look for the pilot, until relatives went to the press.

  • RichardD

    – Video: Pakistan’s false expose, which was told by MiG, it turned out to be debris of Pakistani F-16 –

    https://hindi.timesnownews.com/india/video/pakistan-fake-picture-news-of-iaf-mig-fighter-jet-shot-down-paf-f16/374105

    • Sinbad2

      Yep you were right all along, the ancient Mig-21 took out the F16.

      • RichardD

        That single piece of debris isn’t conclusive proof. But it matches up F-16 metal work better than it does Mig-21 metal work. And if it is from a shot down F-16, the Paks are probably under pressure from the US to cover it up.

        I haven’t seen anyone match it up to a Mig-21. And I’ve looked at Mig-21 pictures and haven’t seen anything comparable.

  • MH370

    indian caught lying..pathetic
    in my country there is a verb
    if you cought between a snake and an indian
    beat that indian first… spare the snake.

  • Patriotic_White_American

    I want India to win but Pakistan chewed up those trashy Russian Migs that were built in the same era as the superior F16

    • Joe Kerr

      Pakistan says it used a JF-17 to shoot down the MIG-21.

  • KOTLEBA POMAHA CAPUTOVEJ

    the evil moslems killed 40 indian sildiers.
    india has the right to act, eg bomb them.
    but india holds the wrong end of the stick.

  • Joe Kerr

    JF-17 or F-16? Pakistan says it used a JF-17, not an F-16, to down the MIG-21:

    From Wiki: On 27 Feb 2019, during the tense standoff between India and Pakistan, it was reported that Pakistani JF-17s shot down two Indian MiG-21 operating in Pakistan’s airspace over the disputed region of Kashmir.[121][122] Indian sources claim to have lost only one MiG-21 while shooting down a Pakistani F-16.[123] Pakistan’s ISPR rejected India’s statement, stating that Pakistan used no F-16s in the whole exercise.[124] Meanwhile, a Twitter post reportedly shows PAF Squadron Leader, Hasan Siddiqui, taking credit for the downing one of the Indian MiG-21.[125] The aircraft behind him resembles a JF-17, owing to its air intakes.[126]

  • Sinbad2

    Over at Sputnik they are saying the now confirmed shooting down of an F16 by the old Mig21 may have an impact on India’s decision to buy F16’s.