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AUGUST 2020

India Confirms 20 Soldiers Killed In Border Clash With Chinese Forces; Reports Of 43 PLA Casualties

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Originally appeared at ZeroHedge

Earlier in the day we reported that Indian Army officials said that three troops – an officer and two soldiers, to be more precise – had been gunned down by Chinese forces during a “violent faceoff” in Galwan Valley in the Ladakh region Monday night.

In an official follow-up statement, the Indian Army now says as of Tuesday evening local time that an additional seventeen soldiers were critically injured in the exchange of fire, and since succumbed to their wounds after being “exposed to sub-zero temperatures in the high altitude terrain.” This brings the official Indian death toll to 20 soldiers killed.

With the whole incident still shrouded in contradictory claims and lack of confirmation on potential Chinese casualties from Beijing – even after widespread unverified Indian media reports claimed that up to 43 Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA) were killed or injured in the clashes, one thing is for sure — that this is the biggest and deadliest border clash between the nuclear-armed neighbors in a half-century.

India Confirms 20 Soldiers Killed In Border Clash With Chinese Forces; Reports Of 43 PLA Casualties

India-China Ladakh, Indian media file image.

The only thing approaching an ‘official’ statement from Beijing appears to come via state media. The highly visible editor of state-run Global Times Hu Xijin, who’s often served as unofficial mouthpiece conveying Beijing official sentiment to the West tweeted the following in the aftermath Tuesday, calling it “goodwill from Beijing”:

The Chinese side didn’t release number of PLA casualties in clash with Indian soldiers. My understanding is the Chinese side doesn’t want people of the two countries to compare the casualties number so to avoid stoking public mood.

Importantly, Xijin confirmed that there were indeed casualties on the Chinese side.

He stated further: “Based on what I know, Chinese side also suffered casualties in the Galwan Valley physical clash,” in a follow-up tweet.

India Confirms 20 Soldiers Killed In Border Clash With Chinese Forces; Reports Of 43 PLA Casualties

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“I want to tell the Indian side, don’t be arrogant and misread China’s restraint as being weak. China doesn’t want to have a clash with India, but we don’t fear it,” the GT editor added.

And BBC reports of the new statements:

It added that “17 Indian troops who were critically injured in the line of duty” and died from their injuries, taking the “total that were killed in action to 20”.

China did not confirm any casualties, but accused India in turn of crossing the border onto the Chinese side.

Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian said India had crossed the border twice on Monday, “provoking and attacking Chinese personnel, resulting in serious physical confrontation between border forces on the two sides”, AFP news agency reported.

India blamed Beijing for “an attempt by the Chinese side to unilaterally change the status quo” on the border, according to Indian media.

With tensions this high, and no doubt the national medias of each country about to spend days whipping their citizens into a frenzy, there’s likely more to come along the restive and disputed Line of Control (LOC).

We should add that strangely, the Indian army is still claiming as of Tuesday that “no shots were fired” in this latest major clash.

This is of course a not so insignificant detail which has left many observers scratching their heads, but then again, border skirmishes between the two have been known to involve stones, sticks, and fist-fights. Given the high casualty count, gunfire is most likely, or perhaps they fought with bayonets?

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  • <>

    Time to arm India with some of the best IAI drones and AA missile technology, also upgrade their jets. Since China helps Pakistan, the U.S and Israel must help India too.

    • Fog of War

      Israhell had no problem selling military tech to the Chinese before.

      • <>

        We couldn’t even if we wanted to, the U.S forbids us. we have already given India the Barak8 system which can be fired from ships, but that’s not enough we must help them against the Chinese monster.

        • Wayne Nicholson

          They can’t be keeping you on too tight a leash …. you rented out a naval base to the PLA in July 2018

          • Zionism = EVIL

            Also sold them the F-16 clone “Lavi” plans which the Zionist cunts stole from dumbass sugar daddy Americunts. It has now become a J-10 a pretty good Chinese fighter that Iran is buying.

          • <>

            Bibi did it for his dirty corruption, most Israelis are against that move so we won’t become another China puppet country. They would be kicked out from that port if they risk our security I have no doubt.

        • Ilya

          Oh that Chinese monster. 2 millenia as the GDP leader of the planet, yet no foreign Empire.

          You know you sound like the chihuahua wanna-be alpha barking at the labradog who just wants some peace and quiet.

          • Fantax

            China has been around for 5,000 years, Israel little more than 70 and looking at the demographics they will not last more than few decades

          • <>

            Lost your math count? we are as old as China. You are talking about modern Israel, did you forget ancient Israel? Two Temples in Jerusalem? trying to rewrite history won’t change it.

        • Fog of War

          Whatever you say, although your geopolitical knowledge is sevrly lacking.

          – Why the U.S. Can’t Get Israel to Break Up With China –

          https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/06/16/us-israel-china-deals/

          ISRAEL has sold at least dollars 2bn ( pounds 1.3bn) to dollars 3bn of hi-tech military equipment to China, seriously undermining US efforts to limit the sale of advanced weapons to the Chinese. A Senate report due out later this week says the Israeli exports include military technology developed by the US, and which Washington expressly forbids from being exported to China.

          Officials accompanying Israel’s Prime Minister, Yitzhak Rabin, on a visit to China confirmed that Israel had done deals but would not elaborate. The CIA told the committee the Chinese were seeking from Israel technologies that Western firms were unwilling to provide.

          Those sold by Israel are said by specialists to include technology for the Python – the Israeli version of the US Sparrow air-to-air missile – and technology developed for the US-financed Lavi jet, which the Israelis cancelled some years ago. “

          https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/israel-accused-of-selling-us-secrets-to-china-1510406.html

          • <>

            Did you notice the time? Wednesday 13 October 1993? it was a different era back then. Today our technology is much more advanced and ofcourse we won’t sell it to China. Only the U.S gets the system we develop.

    • Lazy Gamer

      Traditionally, China and the US both help Pakistan. lol

      • <>

        Not since Pakistan hid Osama on their land.

        • Wayne Nicholson

          The USA sold Pakistan 15 attack helicopters and 1000 hellfire missiles in 2015 so apparently they aren’t all so pissed at Pakistan that they won’t sell them weapons.

          • Justin

            Obama did that!
            thats what Benghazi was about! Hillary had her own shit with Benghazi too! How do we know? because a taliban member fired a US made stinger at a US helicopter but forgot to arm the missile! The missile hit the helicopter but did not explode! The same helicopter went down to photograph the missile! it was a US made stinger which obama sent to Libya to be transited to Afghanistan!

            Obama is a traitor! there is a photo of him with Siddqui before he was ever President! Sohale Sidiqui is an arms dealer from Pakistan! So was his father! it continued when he was President! this of the Deal he made with Iran, think of the cash flown by aircraft into Iran!

            His chosen Secret Service name is “Renegade” which means Traitor!

          • Zionism = EVIL
          • <>

            That was Obama, not Trump.

        • Ilya

          Osama died Dec 15th 2001. There was an obituary. Please, no fake news.

          • <>

            Yeah so also a fake operation where they captured his body on Pakistan soil closer to the Afghan border?

          • Ilya

            Yep – buried at sea, no confirmation of his image. The team that ‘hunted him down’ all killed in a chopper accident.

          • Astar Roth

            He never existed…they just photographed some random guy…

        • Astar Roth

          Osama bin laden is fictional character of Zionistic Hollywood’s origins…

      • Zionism = EVIL

        This Iraqi Zionist is total dumbass :)

    • Wayne Nicholson

      Israel has good relations with both sides and are already the 2nd biggest supplier of arms to both sides with Russia being the largest. Why would you want to pick sides?

      You want to upgrade Indian jets? They’re all Russian …. it’s Pakistan that flies US jets

    • Raptar Driver

      Time to arm your brain with some cells.

    • Justin

      F-21 on its way!

    • guest

      Zionist beggars live on my tax dollars.

      • <>

        Really? I don’t get a cent and I am still fine. Maybe you should check our macro and micro data before you post BS.

    • Astar Roth

      Bwahahaha, Pakistan is Zionistic American septic pit…

    • And you believe this lmao, 43 pla casualties from cow worshippers

  • Damien C

    It will be difficult for India to back off from this and save face without a comparable body count inflicted on the PLA

    Could get to see the SU30mki the s400 and the J20 up close and personal

    • Ivan Freely

      No need for the J-20.

  • elpocho

    quite senseless clashed tbh. l can understand the desire of lndia to hold their border more vigourusly, but in the end they are clashing over a few meters, which are by no mean strategic in an event of full out war

    • BlueHeadLizard

      “…by no mean strategic….” -> fresh water?

  • Dick Von Dast’Ard

    Sounds bloody brutal whatever.

    • Zionism = EVIL

      Russia will stay quiet as China is too important for Russia in the new Eurasian world order. In any case there is zero chance of any conflict as the Indian cunts would be wiped out and their shitty country Balkanized, the Pakistanis are waiting in the wings and so are the Bangadeshis who want west Bengal back, which was their historically. The Sikhs want their Khalistan and we all know about Kashmir. Russia, China and Iran have bigger fish to fry with the imploding Americunts.

      • Friend of Russia

        If china is too important for Russia, chinese will shit in the mouth of Russians very soon

        • Zionism = EVIL

          Wishful thinking, these are not emotional issues for kids. Russia has supplied China with most of its best frontline fighters since 1950’s. It is a solid alliance as both face Americunt cowards. The world’s future is ONE BELT and both India and Americunts and most of Europe are on the outer. China will dominate the world, but by a more peaceful economic integration. Americunts and Brits are full of warmongering, evil and hubris, India should not fall in their trap and will be wiped out. It barely too 50,000 Persian Cavalry under Nadir Shah to capture all of India and bring home the Takht e Taous (Peacock Throne) and most of India’s gold. What chance does India have against China? ZILCH.

          • Friend of Russia

            Lol! ” Russia supplied china with it’s best frontline fighters since 1950″. By the way which is Russia’s best frontline fighter? All weapons made by Russia are heaps of junk which have never scored a kill against their western counterparts. It seems you are too eager to declare china as the winner of yesterday’s fight. You exaggerated Indians casualties to 100 dead and no chinese death. China’s future is doomed. If india boycotts chinese products the dog eaters will come begging at our door steps. India is the biggest market for any finished products and Chinese economy will perish if indians boycott them. Meanwhile why is chinese military reluctant to disclose their casualty figures?

  • shylockracy

    India acting like true blue member of the Commonwealth of lapadogs of the Brutish empire. Soon they gonna have Pompeo holding a “free Tibet” banner on the Indian side, if he can take an oxigen cilinder to breath at that altitude.

    • Swift Laggard II

      only insane idiots support red dog eating communists

      • Zionism = EVIL

        PP you dumb cunt, I told you stupid dot heads not to fuck with China a month ago. You Hindu street shitters have enough problems with poverty and a bankrupt economy, than take on the world’s strongest power for your Anglo-Zionist masters. Accept this drubbing and know your lowly place. The PLA of today is the world’s strongest military with first rate equipment, discipline and morale, while you stupid Indian cunts are sleeping in WW2 tents without even basic mountain gear. No wonder you lost hundreds of poor peasant soldiers to frostbite.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebVfd6s2o_8

        • Swift Laggard II

          nothing special about China. if there was they would not be talking of deescalating the situation. China cannot beat India, they are evenly matched. You are becoming just another clown whose rational mind has been consumed by passion. even China does not want a war they cannot win

      • BlueHeadLizard

        Yes. The most important lasting outcome of WWII; the dictator China Communist Party, CCP, won in China’s civil war, thanks to Russia support after their Manchuria campaign annialating the Japs, against the more laissez faire governance of the Kuomintang, to produce the authoritarian dystopian monster the Chinese Govt is today. Sure the Kuomintang was not perfect but way better for people than a sect occult Politburo, still in power today, with is killer spy network, indiscriminate jailings and killings, social grading, etc. Totally scary place.

        China could have been a massive Hong Kong or Taiwan; prosperous, hard working, free and great fun for everyone; Chinese and the rest of the world. CCP victory in 1949 a tragic outcome of WWII still in effect today.

    • Icarus Tanović

      Yes, indeed, that’s right.

    • Zionism = EVIL

      Hola Amigos, read my detailed analysis from yesterday, the simple FACT is that the cunt Modi is a pathetic slave to his Anglo-Zionist masters and is unnecessarily pushing a third rate shithole like India into a destructive war with the world’s only real SUPERPOWER CHINA, which controls 60% of all global manufacturing and has immense financial resources. Most Indians live at less than $2 a day and shit in the streets, so let’s not get carried away. The PLA just wanted to teach the little Indian coolies a swift sharp lesson and they did, I understand that over a 100 Indians were killed and just like their Americunt liar masters, the Indians keep on changing the story, from 3 dead now to 20. The real figure in this one sided whupping was over 100 Indians dead and not a single PLA soldier lost their life. I know something was up when the PLA started bringing in elite mountain troops and high altitude gear from the Ussuri and Mongolian border regions. This WILL NOT ESCALATE as the Indians know the PLA will simply wipe them out. NEVER FUCK WITH A COUNTRY WITH YAK CAVALRY!

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4c83ae462dc58b2ac1c14647fd58ad3cc27065f563f1cdeb532316a94f73cfcc.jpg

      • Liberal guy

        How many Yankee bastards died in th ain assad base attack.must be many as the zio bastards hide their deads and said only troops got mental health problems

        • Zionism = EVIL

          Smart guy, exactly it is the same fucking Zionist book of disinformation. The Americunts started with also 3 “soldiers with minor concussion” then it became brain injuries to 31 and then 69 and so on. The real numbers as I had mentioned analyzing the type and payload of Iranian 18 missiles that hit their targets dead bang was 33 Americunts dead and 167 wounded. Just look at the damage and the craters. As a soldier I feel sorry for all the poorly equipped cannon fodder sent to die for Zionist cunts. The Indians don’t even mountain gear my friend, and we are talking average peaks of 18,000 and above and the temperatures fall to minus 30 degrees Celsius during the day. Seriously, you are intelligent man, just look at the pathetic equipment of the Indians compared to China.

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/665bc17e1ab1602ae32b455aca77c8dce951a7b82f98768d92501c5f1cef6944.jpg

          • Liberal guy

            The isrealis also hide like in 2006 war many died but only 121 kia they report also in the wiki pedia is the same thing i know wiki pedia is a cia orcraested website

          • Zionism = EVIL

            Now compare this to the first world equipped PLA who have built heated bunker complexes all over the border with oxygen and high altitude gear. I really feel sorry for the poor Indian idiots. Indian officer begging from Chinese on Aksai Chin.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/587292eb8e353ee667b1034374685b60c727f90fbca503c9265c32b84061711c.jpg

          • Liberal guy

            Many were injured and taken to tell Aviv for treatment and the kia and real injuries the zios hided

        • Liberal guy

          I really got the true number of how many Yankees died.

          • Zionism = EVIL

            Pentagon Report:

            China dominating India on disputed borders

            China’s position remains that Aksai Chin and Arunachal Pradesh (Southern
            Tibet) are Chinese territories and also Jammu and Kashmir which is
            disputed territory to be settled between Pakistan and India. China is an ally of Pakistan and remains an “all weather friend” and supports its stand on its border disputes with India historically. Friendship between Pakistan and China is very strong based on mutual trust and friendship. China’s close relation with Pakistan is very important to Beijing as it has invested billion in CPEC, access to the Arabian Sea Port of Gwader and linkage with One Belt via Iran and Turkey. India is a marginalized player in China’s grand Geo-strategic scheme.

          • Liberal guy

            The Yankees should look on there own virus and protest affairs as it is already game over for them in the eastern world but these bastards will still fight a losing war

          • Assad must stay

            yea i hope china wins if the two actually go to all out war

      • Nowruz

        That was awesome.

    • BlueHeadLizard

      Anglo Saxon / Commonwealth / USA power while still high is on the wane so it a consideration by India Govt. But not as much as control of the Himlayas for its clean fresh water to satisfy the thirst of a 1bn plus population + agriculture + economy.

  • Icarus Tanović

    This all mess is done by Brits. Now, we all see that America and Zionists are behind all of this bloody mess. They want China down. That is not gonna heppen.

    • Pave Way IV

      Not sure how excited my U.S. leaders would be to see a war between two other nuclear armed nations, Icarus. Psychopathic neocon control freaks would piss in their pants if a hot war broke out between China and India. U.S. politicians would go and hide in their underground bunkers and stop bothering everyone on the surface for a while, so there’s always that benefit. Someone might even get the crazy idea to seal them in permanently with about 20 feet of reinforced concrete. Not me – just saying… heh.

      I’m guessing China has the overwhelming advantage in an all-out war, but that may not matter. Indian leaders – like inept politicians everywhere – would be the ones hoping to use a war as a (temporary) distraction from their domestic failures. It will have nothing to do with the will of the Indian citizens or military. I guess when you have 1.4 billion citizens, you can afford to lose a few before peace talks and/or nuclear annihilation. Think of all those power reactor ‘targets’ and the awesome beauty of the pink-orange cesium tainted skies. I can almost feel the neutron showers now.

      • Ivan Freely

        There will be no war from this. Skirmishes like this occurs frequently between them.

        • Zionism = EVIL

          100% certainty.

      • Astar Roth

        Homie, China is just superior to India in every aspect, in every single thing…

  • Lazy Gamer

    Not in the face! lol While China is positioned well during the covid pandemic, China will be derailed if it gets stuck in a conflict.

  • Fantax

    Please Indian friends, you that have been exterminated by the Anglo-Saxon in the past, don’t be now their useful idiots in their struggle with China. They just want to use you for their dirty agenda, they don’t care about you. Find a compromise with China, it will be a win/win situation for both.

    • Swift Laggard II

      wumao, do they pay you in dog meat?

      • Fantax

        Poland was their useful idiot in WW2 and they lost 25% of their pre war population. They hated Indians they just want to use them, they want China and India, soon to become the 2 largest economies in the world, to destroy each other so they can keep their global dominance

      • Zionism = EVIL
        • Friend of Russia

          Dog eaters ventured into Indian territory to catch some dogs for dinner and a scuffle occurred.

          • Zionism = EVIL

            Actually, it is disputed territory and the Kashmiris were allowed to hold the UN mandated Plebiscite of 1948, they would opt for independence. India is illegally occupying Kashmir, like the Zionist occupation of Palestine.

          • Friend of Russia

            China is illegally occupying tibet, Taiwan and Hong Kong. One day the occupied people will rise up against the communist land grabbers and throw them to dust bin

        • Swift Laggard II

          scroll around – you can find some even more impressive Indian photos. I expect much better from a former officer

          • Zionism = EVIL

            India is a third world shithole, China is a first world superpower. Let’s keep it real. India should just sulk and shut the fuck up as it the Americunt, Zionist and British arseholes agenda to fan a conflict which would destroy a weak fragmented India. I am 100% certain that Indians will take the rational course and deescalate as the Chinese have just activated their forward airbases in Tibet and Xinjiang.

    • Zionism = EVIL

      The Indians are very cowardly arselickers but not suicidal, they will NEVER GO TO WAR with China as they fully understand the consequences. The Anglo-Zionist cunts are trying to use the dot heads as cannon fodder for their failed effort to “contain China”, the stupid fuckers have ZERO chance. India is bankrupt shithole with 22 active insurgencies from Assam, Nagaland, Tamil Nadu to Khalistan (Sikhs) to Kashmir. And most importantly any suicidal conflict with China will bring in Pakistan which has already stated that it will support China, so say goodbye to Kashmir. You dumb fucks are just emotional shitheads, literally. BTW, you filthy cunts drink your piss. Even your PM does.

      The Prime Minister of India, Morarji Desai, a longtime practitioner of urine therapy, spoke to Dan Rather on 60 Minutes about urine therapy and how it is practiced by millions of Hindus. Desai stated that urine therapy was the perfect medical solution for the millions of Indians who cannot afford medical treatment and have no clean water or sanitation.

      • Fantax

        Why you say ‘your’ PM regarding Modi? I am Italian not Indian!

        • Zionism = EVIL

          I was addressing the Indian guy Swift who has multiple accounts, most banned like PP etc, . BTW, Sonia Gandhi is Italian :)

      • Nekoime Nekoprezime

        Advice yourself, retard, and let the others do their job.
        Sleeping room hero.

  • Ray ” Uncle Sam”

    Its about the Aqua!

    • Ivan Freely

      Bingo!!!

    • BlueHeadLizard

      yep the Himalayas; the largest source of non polluted fresh water in the world.

      Who controls the Himalayas makes sure their citizens, fields and factories have running fresh water.

      • Assad must stay

        can ocean water be purified and cleaned enough to drink? why does it have to come from the himalayas?

        • BlueHeadLizard

          difficult to desalinise ocean water and uses a lot of energy. Most of it just good enough quality for agriculture. Saudi Arabia does it. Desalinsation plants water rejected kills fish due to the higher salt levels.

          • Assad must stay

            more research and development should be put into that, refining and purifying it to be drinkable, the oceans are the biggest reservoir of water on the planet

          • Astar Roth

            No big deal about desalination, you get fresh water, and salt. It won’t harm any fishes whatsoever…

        • BlueHeadLizard

          98% of water is sea salt water. 2% is fresh water. 1% is ice. Of the 1% left 0.5% is polluted to undrinkable level. Himalayas with is massive rain / snowfall, so with minimum pollution just from air particles, the largest source of fresh drinkable water on the planet.

  • cechas vodobenikov

    hopefully this will be resolved soon; both societies are progressing, reducing poverty, unlike USA where it is increasing

    • Ivan Freely

      This conflict will never go away. However, it will not spark off a major war.

  • James Adams

    Go India, Fuck those authoritarian bastards !!!

    • Zionism = EVIL

      India is a far more repressive shithole than most.

      • Astar Roth

        Bahahahahaha…

  • God

    You guys know this is not escalating right? This is not like Turkish proxies, this guys are not retards

  • guest

    India should stick to curry or lose in a hurry.

  • The Farney Fontenoy

    Very hard to see how the fatality rate is so high without projectile weapons, both sides trying to save face & de-escalate, they’ve got a joint summit with Russia on the 22nd of June. Chine provoked the Indians with 3 separate incursions but underestimated the anger of the Indian frontline troops. China doesn’t want to admit they screwed up & India doesn’t want to admit it’s troops are trigger-happy. Understandable.

    • Zionism = EVIL

      What fantasy, read up on Indian history, they are simply not fighters, 50,000 Persian cavalry just a couple of centuries ago under Nadir Shah captured all of India. Even the pip-squeak Portuguese captured Southern India.

      • BMWA1

        Ghuz turks too