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Impact and Effects of April 30 Strikes Against Syria: Winds of War Blowing Strong

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Impact and Effects of April 30 Strikes Against Syria: Winds of War Blowing Strong

Written by Arkady Savitsky; Originally appeared on strategic-culture.org

On April 30, powerful missile strikes were delivered against Syria’s military sites in the provinces of Hama and Aleppo. There were casualties, mainly among pro-Iranian forces and Iranian personnel. Nobody took responsibility but it is widely believed that the operation was conducted by Israel’s Air Force. Israeli officials made no comments but Intelligence Minister Israel Katz said his country would not allow Iran to have military outposts on Syrian territory. Israeli Defence Minister Avigdor Lieberman vowed to use force in response to any attempt by Iran to establish a “military foothold” there. Neither would Israel allow Iran to go nuclear. The Israeli government believes it cooperates with N. Korea to acquire nuclear capability, despite the fact that the IAEA affirms that Tehran abides by its international commitments.

Israel has targeted Iranian-backed militia outposts in Syria before. Technically, Syria remains at war with Israel. The Israeli cabinet gathered for an emergency meeting right after the strikes. The military is getting ready Heron ТР drones that have just entered service to strike any air defense systems that can counter the Israeli aviation in Syria. Israeli F-15, F-16, F-35 can operate outside the killing zone of S-300 systems (150km) or approach land targets flying at the altitudes lower than 60m. They have AGM-142 Have Nap air-to-surface missiles with a range of 100km and Delilah stand-off cruise missiles to launch strikes at the distance of up to 250km. If Russia delivers its S-300s to Syria, these weapons will be used to neutralize them.

On April 30, arms depots for missiles were prime targets. One of the positions allegedly was an army base Brigade 47 near Hama city, were Iranian-backed Shi’ite militias are based. Syria said it was an act of aggression.

The process of sliding into a wider conflict in Syria sparked by clashes between Israel and Iran is gaining significant traction.

Coincidence or not, the operation was conducted at the time US State Secretary Mike Pompeo was on a visit to Jerusalem and just a few days after Russia announced it was no longer bound by any moral obligations it had before to withhold S-300 air defense systems deliveries to Syria. The US state secretary expressly emphasized the right of Israel to defend itself. He stressed the role of Geneva talks that have so far produced nothing in finding ways to settle the Syria’s conflict and purposefully omitted to mention the talks in Astana – the peace process that has produced a lot. The US Centcom commander, General Joseph L. Votel had held talks in Israel just a few days before the state secretary’s visit.

There are other very interesting “coincidences” to provide clues to what is actually happening and why. The April 30 operation was launched at the time direct clashes took place between the US-supported Kurdish-led SDF and the Syria’s army. This is a very dangerous turn of events threatening to make US military directly clash with Syria’s and Iran’s forces. Actually, the battle is already waged on at least two fronts.

Now let’s look at what the US and Russia each are doing. Washington supports the Israel’s anti-Iran stance. It approves the use of force and is involved in provoking military conflict in Syria. Israel is not alone when it is bracing up for a conflict with Iran.

The present escalation is taking place after Moscow has undertaken an effort to prevent the worst. The International Meeting of High Representatives for Security Issues undeservedly received little attention in media but the very fact it was organized demonstrates what the Russia’s Syria policy is about.

The forum was held on April 25-26 in Sochi, the Russian famous Black Sea resort. Organized by Russia’s Security Council, the event security officials from 118 countries. It was stated there that some countries played into the hands of extremists in Syria. More participants would have participated if Washington did not apply pressure to reduce their number. The conference opposed the unilateral use of force and neglect of international law in Syria. Nikolai Patrushev, Russia’s Security Council Secretary, held two separate meetings with representatives of Iran and Israel to discuss the ways to avoid a direct confrontation. As one can see, it’s Russia, not the US, is applying efforts to mediate and thus avoid the war.

The foreign ministers of Russia, Turkey and Iran met in Moscow on April 28. They disagreed with the opinion of UN Syria Envoy Staffan de Mistura’s who said in a statement that the Astana process had reached its limits. The parties stressed unity and the need for a broader role of the UN in the efforts to settle the Syria’s conflict.

Russia is the only actor fit for the role of a go-between to prevent a war between Israel and Iran and it’s trying to save lives. US officials talk about the potential conflict as something unavoidable. The comparison of the policies adopted by Washington and Moscow clearly shows who is instigating tensions and who is trying to ease them.

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paul ( original )

I don’t want to criticize this article but I do not really see how
Russia can act as a go between. Especially not a go between Israel
and Iran. The nature of the conflict is not such there there is some
sort of middle point compromise that is available to mediation. In
fact no such point exists in respect to any of the policy goals of
both Israel and the USA.

RichardD

“Vladimir Putin had a telephone conversation with Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu, at the initiative of the Israeli side.

The leaders discussed progress of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action on Iran’s nuclear programme, including in the light of Mr Netanyahu’s statement on the issue made today.

Vladimir Putin confirmed Russia’s stance that the Plan of Action, which is of primary importance for ensuring international stability and security, must be meticulously observed by all parties.

President Putin and Prime Minister Netanyahu continued to exchange opinions on the overall situation in the Middle East, including the developments in Syria.

The parties agreed on further personal contacts.”

– Telephone conversation with Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu –

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/57395

paul ( original )

Do you think I am being overly pessimistic ?

RichardD

Yes.

paul ( original )

Time will tell.

FlorianGeyer

I would think that Israel is attempting to prevent the demise of terrorism in Syria and one way to do this is to draw Iranian and Hezbollah forces away from Syria by direct aggressive contact with Iran and Hezbollah.

RichardD

Short of attacking Lebanon or Iran, striking their forces in Syria is unlikely to receive a response outside of Syria. And there are Israeli targets in Syria that can be gone after.

Joe

Dont know why so many talks about attacking Iran … really look at Iran and its armed forces plus reserves and the land corridor.

Stop saying any country can attack Iran … no country can .No least tiny little Israel .
If Iran wants to attack Israel through Syria , it would not be difficult as air power is not a guarantee to win any war today esp; if one fights with Iran.
In fact , unless nukes are used whereupon the leaders will hang in the Haque, it is not impossible to battle Israel inside Israel as well.

This Israel know very and hence need US to do the dirty job except that US has pondered and considered all options and know no plan can succeed.

So if there is a war .. it will be Iran that decides not Israel or USA .

Free man

The mullah regime is afraid even to respond to the repeated Israeli aggression.
In the last bombing, the mullahs claimed that Iranian bases were not hit and that Iranian soldiers were not killed. And the Syrians claimed that the missiles were launched from Jordan. How pathetic can you be?

Joe

You failed to see the point.
It’s is not going to war yet nor Israel dare to wage war with Iran.

If Iran is forced to go to war, with support of SAA, Hez and even without russia, Iran will prevail and I say it again . There is no force in ME strong enough to take on Iran

Free man

Iran and Israel are already at war.

Joe

You do not seem to know what forms a war ..
Local conflicts are not war.

Free man

The more correct interpretation, I think, is that Iran has “entangled” in its own rhetoric.
It has threatened Israel’s destruction for years. And now that it has bases in Syria near Israel, it can’t even respond to repeated Israeli attacks against it.
The Iranians are currently a nuisance to Syria and Russia. Assad is currently winning with the help of Russia, he does not need Iran and its militias. It is a fact that the Iranian militias are not currently fighting on any front.

Monte George Jr

Iran has not threatened to attack Israel, ever, except in response to Israeli aggression against Iran. Israel, on the other hand, threatens at every opportunity to attack Iran and to enjoin USA in the battle.
Syria is winning with the support of Russia, Iran and Hezbollah. Iran and Hezbollah will be essential in the ground operations to reclaim the areas east of the Euphrates, areas bordering Jordan, and the Golan Heights.

Free man

“reclaim the areas east of the Euphrates, areas bordering Jordan, and the Golan Heights.” It seems you smoke a particularly good stuff.
Do you really want the Iranians and Hezbollah to fight the Americans in eastern Syria and the Israelis in western Syria? You probably hate Shia very much.

Joe

Now you tell me … how is Israel or US able to stop Iran and allies from taking East of Euphrates once the western terrorists proxies have been eliminated. Tell me how they can defend from ANY MILITARY perspective other than using nukes in Syria which anyone doing it will hang in the Hague.

Even Houthis can easily eliminate the US forces there …
It is a fact . It is only when not capable

Ewan

Do you think the Americans are invincible? – Pyjama wearing, barefooted Vietnamese kicked there lily white butts back to Washington. The Taliban have shown them the door. The US is a pathetic excuse for a Superpower.

Free man

Only a wise leader like Assad could survive the rebellion in Syria. As such Assad will not risk all his achievements by fight the Americans because the Iranians want him it. Especially since the Russians would not agree to that.
It is better to reach an agreement with the Kurds / Americans without a war.

Joe

Don’t be naive . Will you allow your own big chunk of land occupied by your worse enemy and constantly threatening to over throw you to stay even though you have won the war against this giant?

On top of that this giant vonly has a few miserable soldiers who have not even fought in a real war vs Assad’s powerful forces plus allies like Iran that alone can kick 10 times the US forces in there in a week?

All just because you FEAR that giant?

If so , stop commenting . This is not the place for kids

Free man

It’s not fear that’s realism.
A wise leader chooses his battles.
Assad understands that the Americans will not stay in Syria forever.

Joe

Assad will not allow US to stay a day longer than necessary.

Who in the world today trust or believe what US says? None

wwinsti

The narrative you’re obviously accepting about events in Syria relating to Iran/Syria/Russia is missing several key facts. Syria actually needs its eastern resources, nevermind as to the complete rape of international law the Kurds/US are participating in. Assad’s gov. needs Russian and Iranian presence is strength as long as Foreign Wahabist receive military and economic assistance from US, Israeli,, Saudi, and Jordanian assistance. While your statements may be speculative, they fly in the face of Syrian government pronouncements about reclaiming all of Syria.

wwinsti

You act as if Iran has a choice. It’s not the Golan that will be the trigger, it will be Lebanon.

Ewan

First Golan, then Jersualem

Joe

Come on who has been practising and threatening who? Israel even public trained to fly to Iran to attack and has Iran made such moves other than to reply to Israeli threats which you now say repeated threats to attack Israel . Ohhh you expect Iran to be quiet while you threaten them and threaten the extinction of the Palestinians?
You guys just do not look into the mirror.

Now Iran is fully into Syria to fight terrorists from Israel US UK France etc
and not geared to attack Israel . Have you head anyone saying that Iran will be in Syria to attack Israel other than from Nethanyahoo mouth spewing out nonsense and lies?

What a joke to say iran is a nuisance to Syria and Russia.
and what kind of stupid joke Iran is not fighting on any front and you DARE to say it is a fact .

joker

Ewan

Agreed with you mostly, however, a mid to long term strategic goal of Iran is to rid the ME of Israel – else all this fighting in Syria is for nothing. Israel needs to disappear if there is to be any long term prospect of peace in that region.Defeating the head choppers in Syria is only part of the solution to achieve that peace.

Ewan

Nonsense, Russia’s assistance is mainly air support. Iran orchestrated and planned Russia’s intervention in the first instance. It is Iranian funded and trained PMU’s from Iraq and elsewhere + Hezbollah that are doing the grunt work – Russia cannot risk losing too many men-disastrous for PR back home. They are using Russian muslims (from Dagetsan, Chechnya) for policing operations in already re-captured cities as well as Russian “mercenaries” to do some fighting. IRGC are waiting in the wings for a real battle with Israel. The groundwork will be laid once Syria is stabilised – IF that ever happens.

wwinsti

Russia’s relationship with Israel is conplex, even polite, but that does not mean friendly. They have economic entanglements that are deep, so much so that neither side can abandon the other without massive damage. That said, Putin does see Israel as a long term threat to Eurasia because of its role as an ally to us economic warfare against the Eurasian union. Russian refueling bases in Iran are not accidental.

Ewan

Also, European and US military planners have told Israel that end of 2016 is the last window of opportunity to strike Iran – Now it is too late unless US steps in. In any event, Israel will be obliterated in a blanket of conventional and possible tactical Nuclear strikes – Only 3 places needs be targeted, hell, Hezbollah can even go it alone.

wwinsti

Iran/Hezbollah were heavily involved in the Syrian war before Russia got involved. By all accounts they were losing the war until late 2015. Hezbollah especially are geared for hit and run attacks, street fight and defensive warfare, they are not especially adept at large scale attack or movement warfare, so the most damaging attack they could muster would be something like a Tet offensive throughout the Levant. If Iran uses it’s strategic weapons Israel will escalate to tactical nukes using it’s own ballistic missiles, something the US has been laying the legal ground work for the last couple of years. Don’t expect anyone to be appearing appearing before the Hague for it, the war state now manufacturers fake provocations weekly, and are about to go into a daily cycle to justify their war with Iran.

Zionism = EVIL

Just wait and see. Saddam miscalculated the same way. Persians are cool calculating people and all Persian wars since 15th century have lasted over a decade or more. The sheer size, depth, population and resources depletes Iran’s enemies. Persian nationalism comes to the rescue when Iranian soil is threatened. You can take that to the nearest Jew bank :)

Ewan

They denied because “Iranian troops are officially not on the ground”

wwinsti

The Mossad is extremely active throughout Eurasia and has several triggers ready to cripple Iran internally. Israel has no plans to engage Iran alone, rather, they will create a humanitarian crisis within Iran and try to force the war state to act.

Siegfried

Sure, IRAN in Syria… that f*cks the plans to attack IRAN, because the Iranians in Syria would shoot without remorse on Te-Aviv with all they have :)

Zionism = EVIL

Tel Aviv ruins will make Aleppo look like an urban planners dream, if even one Zionist bomb hits Iranian territory. It will be a no holds barred conflict lasting years if not decades. Persians are not Arabs or Russians.

Nigel Maund

FG – good comment and almost certainly correct.

Joe

Impossible to draw away Iran and Hez from Syria. If that is the plan , well as USUAL they will fail as all western ideas have stupidly failed so far .

These guys’ IQ are quite low.

FlorianGeyer

Membership of any cult seems to rot the brain in time.

TiredOfBsToo

My hope is that IF Israel is successful in launching a war, with US support, on Iran, that it will herald the end of the terrorist supporting evil-war-mongering-missing-link-knuckle-dragging state of Israel permanently!!! It’s interesting to note the terrorists best friends in Syria ie. the US, Israel and Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia and Israel, head-choppers and genocidal maniacs repectively; the US, always worried the economy will crash if peace breaks out in the world. Just look at the how the stock market dropped at the thought of peace breaking out in Korea.

FlorianGeyer

If the Iranian people were not going to suffer terribly I would agree with you.

Is it better to play along until the US and by definition, Israel , drowns in a lake of debt ?

TiredOfBsToo

Notice my big “IF” in the statement. Until the world stops extending unlimited credit to the US for it’s own destruction, I see no hope for peace anywhere. The missing-link-knuckle-dragging-psychopaths wielding the power of the US, along with stuffing their pockets with the money wielded by the terrorists in the US, the anti-American Israel Lobby, are intent on using the US as their mercenaries to destroy Iran. I just hope that, just like all of the other US’s ventures in the Middle East, they will fail miserably there too. I too wish that Iranians wouldn’t have to suffer and die to satisfy Israel’s terrorism, but I fear there’s not much intelligent life leading the government of the US.

FlorianGeyer

When I looked at Pompeo’s inauguration this morning , I realised with certainty that we are living in a time when a ‘self worshiped indispensable nation ‘ is in its death throws.

The UK only has a ‘walk on part’ in this theatre of the absurd and a rather amateur one at that judging by Theresa Mays lack lustre performance :)

The US ‘ diplomatic talks with Kim Jon Un will be another flash point .

Trumps Art of the Deal appears to be ‘offering a low price to buy a shop and if it is refused he arranges for thugs to warn off any customers ,unless the seller accepts a further reduced price ‘.

I guess he learned that scam from his Slum Landlord father.

TiredOfBsToo

With the CIA’s record of lies, deceit, assassinations, coups etc., putting the head of the CIA at the Department of State makes good sense for a country intent on destroying the planet. It’s funny how the psychopaths hoodwinked Trump into making him feel like he’s calling the shots when in fact, they only allow him to play with the economy, as the psychopaths don’t really care what happens in America as long as they maintain control of Empire. The infrastructure of the US is a good example of this as is the growing homelessness.

The UK seems to be following in the footsteps of the US, destroying the NHS, promoting censorship and propaganda. I wonder if anyone will ever get to the bottom of the Skripal kidnapping.

Ewan

That will never happen. Banksters will keep propping US and Israel up. Only real option is a devastating, fight to the end. Last man standing wins.

Siegfried

Yeah, sure : ” Vladi, you keep out of my business with IRAN and I talk to that dYck-svckers in the US-Congress to get you back into the G8 and no sanctions. If you are a good boy, you’ll get Crimea recognized and we may do Ukraine fifty-fifty and I kill SOROS..”)
Something like that? …

RichardD

Probably Syria first, Iran second. Along the lines of please don’t improve Syria’s air defense to much in response to our latest war crime.

Jens Holm

You really is a very slow learner. Many years has been like that and You suddenly under Your bed blancet – or something – see the opposite.

Try at lesst to light Your 7-armed candle down there.

Mike

Say’s the Danish scumbag.

gustavo

Russia has allowed Israel to attack Syria again. Why ? it does not matter why, the point here is What is wrong with Putin ? Why Russia does nothing to stop Israel, knowing that Israel is one of the main terrorists supporter in Syria ?
Just because Israel says that she will not tolerate Iran troops in Syria, does imply that Russia must allow Israel to bomb any Iran position in Syria ?
Isn’t Iran an allied of Russia ?
Is that the way Russia will deal with its allied whenever Israel wants to do something again it ?
We are all waiting for an official Russia answer for this attack.

RichardD

The point is, what’s wrong with you, are you against Syria winning the war? You’ve been Russia bashing for months as they rack up victory after victory. And the diseased blood sucking baby rapers have been powerless to stop it.comment image

Joe

Point is Russia is lacking in many ways to its obligations to Syria as an ally.

Russia owes Syria as much as Syria owes Russia in return for the trouble.

All these years pondering to enemies of Syria ie. Israel and let Israel strike Syrian and Hezbollah forces and refusing to sell S300 to Syria and for long time to Iran while ever ready to sell even the S400 to Turkey and Saudis does not make Russia a good ally.

Others will watch Russia …. Yes, Russia is lacking .

RichardD

I am so tired of Russia bashing arm chair generals with their Rambo plans.

Please war game out how S-300s would have changed the progress of the war up to this point, and how expanding the war to beyond Syria’s borders to create a bigger, more expensive, more destructive war would be to Syria’s or Russia’s advantage. And while your at it, include budgets and troop and equipment losses for your version of how things should have been done. And what the political costs for the Russian government would be. Which currently has one of the highest domestic approval ratings on the planet.

Joe

It’s not a matter of Budget. It’s a fact Russia will not arm it’s ally to pander to the deadliest enemy of Syria.

It’s not russia bashing too. It’s a fact unless you can prove otherwise.

Russia is in Syria is to save their own skin as well and hundreds of Syrians have died .

They are in the same boat. So Russia has to choose or be humiliated even now to be seem to be impotent against Israeli and uS attacks

RichardD

Your reply is a complete cop out from a fool who doesn’t want to remove all doubt that you’re a fool. Try answering the questions.

Joe

Fact is you agree Russia is restraining itself to help an ally . that s good enough . Not the cost or money or anything.

It mostly likely as you said the cost of going against full war with US for Russia is a bad idea .
The alternative of course as they are doing now is to bear the humiliation of impotence appearance .

Now Russia is arming Syria is obvious as a result of avoiding major wider conflict with US . Hence Russia’s actions now to equip Syria with powerful Pantsir and even S300 which was really long long overdue to its ALLIES . Hey Russia is willing to supply even to Saudis top of the range S400 .

If Russia is so scared why fight at all in Syria and showing only able to destroy defenceless terrorists on the ground? Go home .

RichardD

You really ought to get your facts straight. Russia is winning the war and humiliating the Jew losers who are powerless to stop it.

Joe

My facts are perfect. Russia has restrained itself from helping Syria with respect to Israel as Putin has a relationship with ISRAEL .

Russia is not winning the war , Assad is. Russia helps tremendously no doubt but it is SAA , Hez and Irianians on the ground that are winning the war

Know the difference.

RichardD

The Jews have restrained themselves from stopping the Russian juggernaut steamrolling to victory. Because they’re impotent to stop it. So who’s being humiliated? If you can’t see that the Syrian government coalition would be losing the war without Russian participation. Like they were before Russian intervention when both Hezbollah and Iran who were both involved years before Russia, were struggling along with the SAA to keep Damascus from being overrun. Then that shouldn’t be surprising considering that the rest of your plans are stupid or non existent.

You’re talking out of both sides of your mouth. You admit that it’s not worth wasting resources expanding the conflict, and then you claim that the conflict should be expanded. Are you schizophrenic?

I’ve asked you several times to provide your Rambo plan. Which you’ve refused to do knowing that you’d look like a bigger idiot than you already do. So rather than wasting my time further. Why don’t you either provide your Rambo plan, or go back to playing with your green plastic army soldiers in your sand box?

Joe

Just why you divert from my main topic of argument that as it is , I am saying Russia is allowing Israeli to strike Syria, hez and Iran ? It is a indisputable fact and Israel would not have dared to venture into Syria without Russia’s approval .
There was once the Russians were frowned upon by Iranians/Hez for allowing their senior commanders killed.

It is a fact that Russia is avoiding any conflict with US or Israel and concentrate on fighting ISIS and their allies killed is not their concern. But saving Syria from falling in US hands is a red no no line Israel or no Israel.

where on earth did I say without Russia Syria would not have fallen ? Now know this fact. At the time Assad was fighting alone and with massive support by US coalition (who pretended to fight ISIS lying to the world with straight faces) and Arabs surely they cannot win . Iran was not into full scale war footing into Syria as Syria under the treaty was internal not external threats.

Yes, with Russia air power , Syria SAVED RUSSIA too for your information.
or Russia today would not have the German pipeline or the Turkish pipeline.

Now right now, once the war is won .. .yes Syria alone with Iran can handle ANY US /israeli threats. why ?

Initially when ISIS suddenly took many areas , a lot of Syria air defences were destroyed and hence Israel were able to freely flew into Syria WITH RUSSIAN permission.

Now when the war was won and many areas the air defence systems were installed and restored… notice that ISRAEL is not able to fly into Syria anymore as even without Russian interference Israel MUST fire from Lebanon.

This showed that Russia could have stopped the Israeli planes as russia had far more powerful SAMs than the old S200.

I showed you this proof that Russia pander to Israel .

Keep to this subject .. not beating around the bush about what Rambo plan.

Now hear this … with air covered , it is for certainty that US forces in Syria cannot last long against the Iranian/syrian/Hezbollah ground forces EVEN WITHOUT RUSSIAN HELP.

This is my contention of not needing Russian help NOT WHEN ISIS with US help were already attacking Damascus.

Until now you have not even explained ANYTHING YET.

Hear this .. if in the initial years Russian had not intervened , Iran would have to enter the war in mass not just advisers.

Now you tell me, if Iran is to enter the war enmass with million number of militias alone , not to say the Army and republican guards, how are ISraeli or US able to counter.

I am all ears…. they would be wiped out. Of course that would strain Iran greatly financially as well as logistically . But when talk about war, those are secondary.

Get the drift?

Keep to the topic.. I said Russia pander to Israel and tried to avoid conflict with US …

So supplying S300 , Russia does not have to fire to shoot down US/Israeli planes… that is the motive .

Whether Israel is able to use the F35 and not shot down by birds again is another story.

RichardD

Show us your Rambo plan. What would Syria do with with S-300s, and how would it change the war?

Joe

Of course with the S300 they would be Able to cover their forces from Israel and U S planes . So obvious.
Especially if they need to take back East Euphrates to counter US coalition air strikes if tanks are required for assault.

The war is already won for certainty. The S300 will force the Americans to go home without a fight assuming Assad and Russia are able to keep it from being attacked as ISrael has threatened

RichardD

What does any of that have to do with Russia “allowing” Israel to attack Syria, and being “humiliated” by the baby rapers? When the Syrians are quite capable of going after the Israelis anytime they want and choose not to?

Syrian S-200 vs Israeli F-16:

http://www.gorkhapost.com/libs/uploads/2018/02/israeli-f-16-shot-down.jpg

RichardD

Who’s stupid, losing the war and being humiliated?
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RichardD

You’ve got Israel on the brain. Russia isn’t restraining itself to help Israel, and Israel isn’t the only one attacking Syria. Turkey, the US and others are also attacking Syria. And there are plenty of Israeli targets available in Syria that can and are being attacked on a regular basis without expanding the war to outside of Syria. The goal is to win the Syria war. Not go around half cocked playing macho man to keep Rambo fans like you happy. Your whole conspiracy hypothysis that Putin is selling out the Syrian’s for Israel is lunacy.

Joe

I would suggest you stop trying to reply to my points as you are beating around the bush.

It has been so evident that Israel is turning a blind eye to Israel attacks on Hez, Syrian and lately dared to attack Iranian forces /bases.

Keep to this and not about Turkey and other bs.

It is also a fact that Russia would try its utmost to pander to even US/Nato NOT TO SUPPLY S300 systems to Iran and Syria . The facts are all there and so obvious and just why you still be so stubborn to beat around the bush still denying Russia is giving Israel the lee way ?

Fact is that now when the latest attacks on fake CW attacks Russia is soooo fed up as to finally give in to equip Syria now. EVEN after saying wishing to supply , sources from Russia still says… CONSIDERING not confirmed… so wish to satisfy Israeli concerns.

When Russia warned about retaliating , the reason was not because of attack on Syrian /Iranian but on their own soldiers being killed. Seems they cared nuts about Syrians and allies being killed. So pandering to western forces. Fact

stop responding if you cannot even discern this simple fact .

RichardD

Coming from a bipolar intellectual coward like yourself who can’t even get his story straight and who refuses to show his Rambo plan for fear of being eviscerated for his stupidity. Your opinions are worthless.

If you want to be taken seriously. Show us your Rambo plan. And if you don’t. I’m not going to waste anymore time trying to debate an idiot who says that he agrees and disagrees with the same thing.

You criticize the way that Putin is running the war, but refuse to say how you’d do it any better. You’re a two faced hypocrite and a loser.

Show us your sand box commander Rambo plan of how you’d deal with Israeli air strikes differently than Putin is and how it’d play out so that we can all have a good laugh at a clown like you.

Joe

Again you deviate from topic.
You have not and cannot rebute my post and starting post about Rambo plans ..
.what Rambo plans?

You have it ? I don’t .
Let’s hear yours. I am all ears

RichardD

You’re the one with the Rambo plan where giving Syria S-300s was going to teach the Jews a lesson. I never claimed to have one.

Again, how are the Russians being humiliated for “allowing” Israel to attack Syria, when Syria has fleets of 20 Mig 29s and 48 Mach 9 hypersonic S-200 launchers that Iron Dome can’t stop with ranges of up to 400 km capable of taking down Israeli F-16s , and can go after the Jews outside of Syrian airspace anytime that they want, but choose not to because they don’t want to start a larger war?

I just don’t see where all of you sand box commanders with your little green plastic army men come up with that. You’re all ignorant of real warfare and politics who don’t have a clue of what their talking about.

Joe

Out of topic reply again of nonsensical post.
When I said S300 will teach Irael a lesson?

Your silly idea of a Rambo plan … figments of your imagination as are most of your childish post

Stick to the issue…. Russia panders to Israel and avoids conflict with US . Refused to arm allies with S300 earlier.

Don’t deviate into nonsensical subjects

RichardD

How is Russia being “humiliated”, your words not mine, by not not giving Syria S-300s, and how is Russia “letting”, your words not mine, Israel attack Syria? Don’t continue to evade the accusations that YOU made. Answer the questions.

Joe

How were the words used ?
My post we’re all very clear .

You cannot answer and as usual will post nonsensical replies.

I can easily demolish you in any of such as I have now but you choose to twist around deviating from the main issue.

Russia panders to Israel and even US for not arming it’s allies while will with no hesitation sell to even Saudis.

Try to rebuke these facts then I can demolish your replies not those childish Rambo plans

RichardD

Your words were written exactly as I quoted them. Why are you now evading the claims that YOU made:

How is Russia being “humiliated”, your words not mine, by not not giving Syria S-300s, and how is Russia “letting”, your words not mine, Israel attack Syria?

Your claims of Russia being humiliated and letting Israel attack Syria are spurious, and nonsensical. Your incapable of justifying them because they’re stupid.

Zionism = EVIL

Russia does look very weak and cowardly as the Zionists and US have hit Russian targets in Syria dozens of times and killed many Russians. Putin is either an idiot or in total collusion with Zionists.

RichardD

You really ought to get your facts straight. Russia is winning the war and humiliating the Jew losers who are powerless to stop it.

Ray Douglas

The attack, if it was done by Israel, was a provocation to tempt Iran into retaliating. It would then be twisted by the West and MSM as being the fault of Iran and an excuse to pull out of the nuclear agreement. The pressure would then be on UK/Fr/Germany to also pull out thus isolating Russia. There is also a slim chance it was done by Russia to further justify supplying Syria with advanced anti-missile, anti-aircraft weapons. The lack of condemnation by Russia/Syria/Iran speaks volumes.

John Whitehot

what’s wrong with adult people that can’t separate provocations from real acts?

israel has been doing this shit for years and it hasn’t changed the course of the war by an inch.

Free man

The answer is crystal clear.
Russia will not fight Iran’s religious wars.
Russia came to Syria to save Assad and it succeeded in a big way.
If Iran wants to fight Israel from Syria, contrary to Russia’s position, let it bear the consequences.

gustavo

So far, Iran has dedicated only to defend Syria (attacking terrorists in this territory). I do not think they are stupid enough to even try to attack Israel. it is senseless to me that Iran would do something like this, and it is clear that Russia would not support this action.

Free man

The Israelis think that Iran plans to attack them from Syria.
And probably the Russians also think so, therefore they don’t intervene.
After the last bombing, the Russians didn’t even make a statement .

Joe

It is true Russia will not fight Israel with the support Russia has been giving to Israel to enable Israel to attack Hez, Iran and Syrians . This of course is bad as an Ally .

Yes, it is true Assad and allies have to depend on themselves on this.
Time is not ripe yet to go beyond destroying terrorists and the few Isreali attack to help the terrorists will not change to course of the war that has been won.

There is no way anyone can stop Iran from building up the equipment and arms in Syria . When the time comes , Israel may find one of these days missiles dropping on Tel Aviv .. then Nethanyahoo will beg for truce when the first one land there . No need to wait for the second one .
Refer Lebanon 2006.

Ewan

Iran does not need Russia for an all-out assault on Israel.

Nigel Maund

Paul; absolutely correct

Free man

“”Russia is the only actor fit for the role of a go-between to prevent a war between Israel and Iran” – 100% true.
The problem is that the Iranian regime sees Syria as a partner in the axis of resistance against Israel. The Iranians want to fight Israel from Syria, they don’t want peace in Syria. And the influence of Moscow on the mullah regime is very limited. That is why there was no Russian reaction to the latest bombing.

Monte George Jr

Iran very much wants and needs peace and stability in Syria. It is Israel who cannot tolerate the reign of anything short of chaos (i.e., ISIS) in Syria. Russia’s response to Israeli attacks are muted for a very good reason; left to it’s own devices the state of Israel will expose it’s evil inner nature in a manner that the people of the world cannot fail to notice. This strategy, pursued against Israel and the USA, is how Putin is revealing the duplicity and evil intent of the West and winning the worldwide war for the minds of men.

Free man

Putin simply told Netanyahu that Russia can’t contain the Iranians in Syria (as mentioned in several news websites). And gave Netanyahu a green light to do what ever he wants. After all, at the end of the war Russia and Iran will compete for Syria’s reconstruction contracts and resources.

Ewan

They won’t compete – everything worked out BEFORE Iran brought Russia into this war. Soleimani was the deal-maker who spoke to Putin directly.

Joe

It would be China mainly which has the money to do so.
For Syria no western banks , no World bank …only Chinese banks and materials.
All done in Yuan for sure.

Ewan

Iran doesn’t want peace in Syria? what a crock of shit – Iran and every country between it and the Gaza strip needs and wants peace and Israel is the stumbling block. To achieve meaningful and LASTING peace, israel MUST be eliminated – THAT would be a wise foreign policy goal of the Iranians, not putting out the Syrian fire so that Israel can restart it in 2 years time and attack Lebanon again.

wwinsti

Begrudgingly agreed. (The) war state is hyperventilating from the lack of an easy conflict that would reassure fractious elites who is really in control.

François

Dont’ worry with the ugly US-Zionist Evil axis. Remember the ancient terrific Mongols, Babylonian, Persian, Assyrians, Romans, Greeks, and look how their civilization ended…

Ray Douglas

I agree with paul (below) re the opinions put forward in this article. If as claimed, that Russia got rid of the Rothschilds’, then Israel should have no economic hold over Russia. Russia should therefor be free to supply Iran with everything it needs to defend itself. It is the plan of the West/US/NATO/Kazarians to destroy Russia, Iran and China. I don’t think they would be mad enough to try and do it all at the same time so that would indicate a one at a time policy. Russia would be mad to sit and wait patiently to be obliterated as would China. Russia should immediately sign a mutual defense pact with Iran and China. This needs to be done quickly before Iran is destroyed.

Gonzogal

Russia should immediately sign a mutual defense pact with Iran and China
Google SCO and CISTO

RichardD

This is obvious to anyone who is paying attention:

“Russia is the only actor fit for the role of a go-between to prevent a war between Israel and Iran and it’s trying to save lives. US officials talk about the potential conflict as something unavoidable. The comparison of the policies adopted by Washington and Moscow clearly shows who is instigating tensions and who is trying to ease them.”

The Syrian war is clearly entering the phase where the terrorist’s puppeteers are entering the fry themselves in a more direct confrontation with the Syrian government coalition. Because it’s the only way that they can attempt to salvage a partial victory for their rapidly failing regime change efforts. These attacks are a sign of desperation on the part of the Jew terror axis of evil. That are likely to result in increasingly robust Syrian antiaircraft systems capability further strengthening and expanding the no fly zone over Syria. And allowing the Syrian government military coalition to advance underneath it against the Jew’s and their lackey’s terrorist and secessionist proxies.

Jens Holm

Russia is not the only one at all.

John Whitehot

oh really. who’s the other ones then.

RichardD

“It’s not often that a relatively inexpensive air defence weapon is able to make a trillion dollar fighter programme obsolete. But the $500 million S-400 missile system has done precisely that to America’s brand new F-35 stealth fighter. …

An S-300 missile fired from, say, Damascus will blow away an aircraft over central Tel Aviv in about 107 seconds, giving the Israelis just enough time to say their prayers. It is precisely because the S-series missile systems can so dramatically upset the military balance that Israel has pressured Russia against introducing it into the Middle East …

This development is really bad news for the F-35.”

– How Russia’s S-400 makes the F-35 obsolete –

https://www.rbth.com/blogs/2015/03/11/how_russias_s-400_makes_the_f-35_obsolete_41895

RamboDave

However, the article above devotes a paragraph detailing how the S-300 can be neutralized by Israel. I am not so sure that the S-300 will stop Israel.

I think the best way to stop Israel and it’s Amen corner neocon War Party in America, is to cause a debate on a Syrian war within the US. The neocons are right now sleep walking us into a war.

And, the best way to cause such a debate is for Russia to make a major escalation on the ground in Syria. How about flying in a complete Russian Division of combat troops directly to the Damascus airport on a training mission? And then announce that they are in possession of tactical nuclear weapons?

Believe me, the stock market would crash. Everyone would ask themselves ….. a nuclear war over Syria?

For example, most people don’t realize that on April 13th Russia made a show of force by sinking an old frigate off the coast of Syria. Defense Secretary Mattis and the Joint Chiefs saw the video below. The next day they persuaded Trump to cut down his massive missile strike into something very feeble, perhaps preventing WW3.

https://russia-insider.com/en/russian-navy-hit-and-sank-decommissioned-frigate-syria-live-fire-drills-video/ri23302

RichardD

You’re peddling disinfo:

“However, the article above devotes a paragraph detailing how the S-300 can be neutralized by Israel.”

Can you post said paragraph? I don’t see it.

RamboDave

“They (Israel) have AGM-142 Have Nap air-to-surface missiles with a range of 100km and Delilah stand-off cruise missiles to launch strikes at the distance
of up to 250km. If Russia delivers its S-300s to Syria, these weapons will be used to neutralize them.”

RichardD

You’re peddling disinfo, that quote isn’t written in the article that I posted the link to:

– How Russia’s S-400 makes the F-35 obsolete –

https://www.rbth.com/blogs/2015/03/11/how_russias_s-400_makes_the_f-35_obsolete_41895

Show me where in this article that that quote came from.

RamboDave

I am talking about the South Front article at hand…. the same article that everyone here on this page is reading. PLEASE read the second paragraph !!!

RichardD

I did read it, it’s nowhere in the article that I linked to in the comment that you replied to.

RamboDave

I have not read your article. We are all here writing comments about the above article posted by South Front.

RichardD

You read and wrote a comment responding to the article that I quoted and provided a link to. So without specifying that you were referring to the SF article rather than the quoted article that you replied to, it’s fair to assume that you’re reply was referring to the quoted article in my comment, not the SF article.

Gonzogal

Which is why Syria also has the Pantsir S1 in its arsenal, in fact Turkey is considering purchasing some as they make up for any deficit the S Series has.
http://theduran.com/syrias-russian-made-pantsir-s1-system-makes-the-grade-in-combat/
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201804251063880424-syrian-army-air-defense/

John Whitehot

“or approach land targets flying at the altitudes lower than 60m”

good luck acquiring a mobile target 250kms away flying at 60m altitude.

John Whitehot

“However, the article above devotes a paragraph detailing how the S-300 can be neutralized by Israel”

it remains to be seen. To do that Israel should first find the S-300s (which are mobile), and to find them they need recon. Then they need to put planes in the air, while the S-300s are still operational.

The above article just says that Israel has weapons with a range outside S-300 kill zone.

It does however forget completely to tell that S-300s themselves are protected, ideally by two other layers of air defence, by Pantsyrs, and by interceptors.

This, without considering that the above article writer does not know (like everybody at this stage), that the number of the hypothetical S-300s batteries is missing.
Because as many suspect, a single element is a much different thing from an entire regiment.

Israel is sabre rattlling these days, and in the end it’s not going to do anything, no matter how much they beat their feet on the floor that their jihaidst friends lost the war.

Derapage

They use satellites or drones to make reconnaissance and, of course, spies on site.

John Whitehot

with mobile targets you need realtime recon. satellites can’t do that by design. drones should have to be employed in large amounts and with certain patterns, and that would be enough to put syrian air defences on high alert.

spies on sites can’t follow mobile units all the time.

all these factors contribute to make almost impossible for israel to perform such mission in the context above.

israel would have to start a full scale war to have a chance with a well prepared syrian iads with s300s.

Derapage
John Whitehot

you seem to not understand the meaning of the word “mobile”.

RamboDave

Good points. But, apparently just a few days ago, on the 30th, Israel used a “swarm” of small 100lb payload, flying glide bombs to attack the Hama base where the Iranians were. South Front showed some pictures of these GPS guided bombs last week. They look like a tube with a fold out wing span of about 4 feet.
Wouldn’t a swarm of these overwhelm even the Pantsyrs ?

John Whitehot

“swarm” isn’t the right word. gbu-39 are 250lbs bombs, that means you load two of them where you normally load 1 500lb (optimistically as not all loading stations on aircraft may load 2 pieces instead of one).

In any case, to engage pantsyrs you have to be able to see them, which means that you have to fly into syrian airspace – something israel doesn’t do since much. They are mobile and they would move if munitions are dropped towards them.

glidebombs may reach perhaps around 100kms range if launched at high altitudes.

“They didn’t claim to have shot down any of them”

for what i know israel bombed empty buildings. no need to intercept such bombs.

RamboDave

Thanks for the reply. But, are we talking about the same weapon? I didn’t take note of the SF article description or name for the weapon last week. But, I thought they said 100lb, and judging from their photos with a person standing there, a small diameter tube with a fold out wing of about 4 feet, it looked like something I could lift up myself.

John Whitehot

all articles i read talked about gbu-39 glide bombs used in hama and the usual popeye cruise missiles in aleppo.

to the best of my knowledge there are no 100lbs glide bombs in production or development, only gbu39/53 100 KGs, amounting to about 280 lbs.

pieces of the bombs were shown, identifying them as the above models.

the writer of the text you read probably mistook pounds for kilograms.

also the concept of “swarm” bombs sounds like an israeli press stunt – there are submunitions canisters already doing that mission.

Jens Holm

All You write there is totally unrealistic and filled up with mistakes as well.

SG

They won’t be able to stop the S-300 if the Russians upgrade it to the S-300V4 variant that has the same radar and missile range as the S-400 system, 600km and 400km respectively. The air defense regiment near the Russian naval base in Tartus is the S-300V4 system.

John Whitehot

the s300v isn’t the same development line of the s300p (and subsequent improvements) that syria would get.

the “v” line is for ballistic missile defence (the base system called SA-12 gladiator by nato) while the “p” line is for general air defence (SA-10 grumble)

Monte George Jr

I think your approach to awakening Americans is spot on. Look how effective Trump’s “mighty armada” and “red button” blustering was in motivating South Koreans to support the peace and reconciliation movement in Korea. Nothing focuses the mind like the immediate threat of total destruction. Americans need to focus!

Ewan

Bullshit – The Korean kiss and make-up was as a result of brilliant North Korean diplomatic maneuvering that took years to accomplish. the US will be the loser on the Korean peninsula as these two brotherly nations squeeze them out. The US doesnt know diplomacy – only force, and it has paid the price – thanks to the orange monkey in the White house

javier

ru high? if that happened the nukes would be in the air so the russian bombers would have no base to return to

RichardD

Without attacking the US homeland, I doubt that the US would resort to a first strike against Russia that would result in the obliteration of the US in 30 minutes.

FlorianGeyer

If that happened any US ships would have no Home Ports to return to and the Israelis would have nothing to return to :)

Ma_Laoshi

Strong or not, the point remains that the winds of war blow in one direction only. When was it again that “Russia’s influence in the Middle East” was praised as Putin told Bibi to knock it off? Seems that only worked for a week or so. The Israelis know their chutzpah, you’ll get nowhere it you can’t answer their “or else?” question.

RichardD

“Arms depots in the vicinity of the Syrian cities of Hama and Aleppo were attacked in the early hours of Monday

Three US officials told NBC News on condition of anonymity that Israeli F-15 jets attacked the military facilities”

– Israeli F-15s Hit Syrian Base –

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201805011064062495-israel-f15-hit-syria-base/

“The United States “has nothing to do” with reported strikes on targets in Syria early on April 30, US Defense Secretary James Mattis said.”

– US Mattis Says Washington ‘Had Nothing to Do’ With April 30 Strikes on Syria –

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201805011064048043-us-syria-strikes-military-bases-hama/

Manuel Flores Escobar

The Question is that Iran and Syria need S-300 PMU2(200km) deployed south of Damascus to close Israel airspace..and Bastion P missile to counterattacks!…otherwise Syria and Iran will never retake Dara and Qneitra!..Israel will not allow it!

RichardD

What do you think that they’l do to prevent it? They didn’t stop the SAA and company from taking Daraa. I doubt that they’l do anything to prevent the remaining border from being cleared beyond making a nuisance of themselves as they have been doing all along.

RichardD

“In 2016, the Russian military will start deploying two advanced weapons, the fifth-generation fighter jet PAK FA and the long-range surface-to-air missile systems S-500, chief of the Russian Air Forces said.”

– Russia to deploy S-500 missiles in 2016 –

https://defencerussia.wordpress.com/2014/08/11/russia-to-deploy-s-500-missiles-in-2016/

RichardD

S-500:
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Siegfried

If they use them so “successfully” like they use the S-400 in Syria.. they may spare the money to build them

John

Iran has officially stated that none of their personnel were involved at the site of the strikes. I don’t really know what was blown up. I doubt it will materially effect anything. Something is very strange here. There is really not enough screaming from any particular side. I also doubt that Israel has a more effective war machine than the US. This surprise and incredibly powerful secret Israeli strike, on a secret Iranian base, just after the joke of the year strike has just gone down by the US and Co., does not add up for me.

On the hardware side, I doubt the Israelis will be able to do much once an S-300 battery and accompanying integrated close in batteries are set up and ready to go. Keep dreaming. It sounds like more of this nobody ever misses, we are the most powerful guys in the world and nobody can stand against us nonsense that we have to swallow everyday, being spewed about like a horse manure spreader operated by a drunken cowboy. I am not buying that either. The fact that the Russians have hardly said anything is the cherry on the ‘I am not buying the pile of steaming hot nonsense ‘ cake for myself. So, I am just laying back, soft beverage in hand and waiting for the real story to emerge. I wish well to all.

RichardD

The latest reports are that F-15s, not F-35s where used. They may have never been in Syrian airspace. Glide bombs have a 60 mile plus range, and 3 feet of steel reinforced concrete penetration capability. They may contain a lot of non metallic composites in their construction that makes them more difficult to intercept than comparable sized artillery rockets. And they’re small and light enough to be fired in swarms.

Two out of three targets may have been undefended. And you only need one direct hit on an arms depot to set it off and kill a lot of people and do a lot of damage from the secondary explosion of the stored material detonating.

MeMadMax

The jihadi branch of the israeli army has failed miserably…

… guess they are gonna try for a rescue mission apparently…

alejandro casalegno

Israel don´t want a war with Iran………..they want a USA-Iran war………..

Siegfried

C’mon, let’s put these finess aside.
SURE Israel wants to push the USA into IRAN like it did with IRAK.
But ISRAEL has 3 subs in the GULF.
German-made “stealth”-subs last generation ( well, this is the “contribution” of my f*king CIA-h00ker MERKEL !!) and the subs are built to carry NUKES……
That’s the problem => either an attack with nukes on IRAN, or a FALSE-FLAG on an US-carrier..

Siegfried

Yeah… BLA-BLA and noise like gees after the hawk got its prey, but ISRAEL may do what it wants there over Syria, the Russki S-400 look like completely useless.. this not to sa ythat PUTIN ALLOWS the ISRAELI to bomb in Syria how they like: even Syrian Army and IRANIAN allies.
Well, that is a partner that sells you some day :(

Nigel Maund

Israel has absolutely no intention of their ever being peace in the Middle East. It wants, and will ensure, perpetual war and chaos to Balkanise, destabilise and control all ME countries indefinitely. The US wants the same thing, as this enables them to control the KSA and 70% of the world critical conventional petroleum resources, thus underpinning the otherwise worthless petrodollar, which is their principal form of control of the Global Economy and financial system based on debt / credit, This also enables them to establish their Global Hegemony on behalf of their masters, the Anglo – American – Zionist Bankster – Corporatist Cabal headed up by the Rothschild’s clan that essentially funded the foundation of a Zionist Israel. The story has always been the same as are the goals of this evil Cabal; i.e.Global Hegemony, a global central bank; a global military (NATO) and a Global Dictatorship (The Matrix).

Monte George Jr

“Israel … wants, and will ensure, perpetual war and chaos…”
That’s exactly why we need to ‘Nuke Israel Now’, before they start the war which will destroy us all.

Xanatos

The article makes it clear s300 is vulnerable to Israel. Israel can and does do whatever act of war it wants without fear of retaliation. They have a wall of fear protecting them.

However, Israeli missiles defenses are not much better than the s-300 and s400. They can be penetrated too using very low altitude missiles and drones, barrage attacks, long range attacks, EMP bursts and supersonic torpedoes.

If they had troop losses as a consequence to their bombings, then they would stop. their threat of Going all out war on Syria will do much more harm to Israel than Syria. An Israeli occupying force will suffer casualties and drain their economy. Syria under Israeli occupation is indistinguishable from Syria under al-Qaida or Isis occupation.

RichardD

What makes you think that they don’t have troop losses, do you think that the Jews have no troops in Syria and that they’re not being killed and captured?

Just because the Syrian government coalition has decided not to waste resources expanding the war beyond Syria’s borders, doesn’t mean that they’re not fighting Israeli forces that are present in Syria calling in air strikes, supporting terrorists, etc..

Everybody talks about S-300s, while ignoring the fact that Syria is winning the war and the regime change fabricators are losing it. If the Russians think that providing S-300s will benefit the war effort. They’l probably upgrade Syria’s air defense forces with them.

Are you going to shoot down swarms of glide bombs dropped from outside Syrian airspace with S-300s? Probably not. Syria has a fleet of 20 Mig 29s and 320 S-200 launchers that can easily target aircraft outside of Syrian airspace if they chose to expand the war. How much difference s-300s would make inside Syrian airspace is debatable. I’m sure that they’d be an improvement. But would they change the course of the war. Probably not. At least not up to this point.

The only place that they could make a significant difference within Syrian airspace is in expanding the existing no fly zone in Syria from 70% of Syrian airspace to 100% of Syrian airspace.

The maximum speed of an S-200 missile is 5,600 mph, approximately mach 9.

The maximum speed of an S-300 missile is 4,500 mph, approximately mach 7.

The maximum range of an S-200 missile is 400 km.

The maximum range of an S-300 missile is 200 km.

The stock version of an S-200 missile probably has fewer capabilities than the S-300. How the upgrades compare I don’t know. But I’m assuming that the Syrian S-200s are being upgraded.

RichardD

S-200 trailer, launcher, and missile:
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RichardD
RichardD

The IAEA has looked at the recent claims by Israel about Iran and rejected them completely:

“The world’s nuclear watchdog has effectively rejected Israel’s claims Iran lied about its nuclear activities, by referencing a report showing there were, “no credible indications of activities in Iran relevant to the development of a nuclear explosive device after 2009”.

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) said documents released by Israel about Tehran’s nuclear weapons program do not reveal anything new. …

Europe’s top diplomat for Security and Foreign Policy also rejected Israel’s claims.

Federica Mogherini said there was no proof that Iran had broken its side of the deal.

“The IAEA have released 10 reports certifying that Iran has fully complied with its commitments,” she said.

“If any party and if any country has information of non-compliance … it can and should address and channel this information to the proper, legitimate, recognised mechanism.””

– Israel’s claims about Iran’s nuclear weapons program rejected as IAEA releases statement –

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-02/iaea-europe-diplomat-on-israel-claims-about-iran-nuclear-program/9719390

If the Jews had iron clad evidence, as they claim, that Iran was in non compliance. Then all that they had to do was submit it to the IAEA to decertify the deal. Instead they chose to stage a publicity stunt based on information that has been looked at for years and found to be insufficient to prove Iran’s non compliance. In other words, the Jews are running a scam.

wwinsti

Lots of media cheerleading from war state media about the penatration of Syrian air defenses. Clearly, the aircraft did not fly from Israel, but rather used Turkish airspace and the FSA incursion zone to drop (((US))) made bombs. Israeli personnel in Iraq is an open secret, a Turkish air base is not out of the question.

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