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Clashes Erupt Between Turkish-Backed Militants And Syrain Army In Southern Idlib And Northern Lattakia (Videos, Photos)

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Clashes Erupt Between Turkish-Backed Militants And Syrain Army In Southern Idlib And Northern Lattakia (Videos, Photos)

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A new round of escaltion between the Syrian Army and Turksih-backed militant groups, first of all Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (formerly the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda) erupted in the southern part of the Idlib de-escalation zone on August 3.

According to pro-government sources, the escalation began with a series of intense strikes on positions of the army in southern Idlib. In response to the attack, the Syrian Army and the Russian Aerospace Forces struck a number of positions of Hayat Tahrir al-Sham along the contact line.

The clashes followed a series of incidents, including the canceled joint Turkish-Russian patrol along the M4 highway in southern Idlib.

Hayat Tahrir al-Sham militants also claimed that they had shot down a Russian Orlan-10 reconnaissance unmanned aerial vehicle in northwestern Hama.

Clashes Erupt Between Turkish-Backed Militants And Syrain Army In Southern Idlib And Northern Lattakia (Videos, Photos)

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The current round of escalation is a logical result of the current situation in Greater Idlib, where the ‘opposition-held area’ is still controlled by various terrorist groups supported by Turkey.

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Jim Allen

These militants aren’t backed by Turkey.
They’re still US backed and US created. Their pay may be laundered through Turkey.

Porc Halal

120% confident they are backed by turdistan and another terrorist state namely qatar…

Porc Halal

Actualy, US conducted several strikes on terrorist leadership located in Idlib

Icarus Tanović

To get rid of theirs spies.

FlorianGeyer

Thats the US cleaning house.

Jim Allen

Feel as confident as you please. The facts remain unchanged.

SteLe

This is just WRONG. Yes, the US has used the Sunni Jihadi movement since end of the 1970s, but the Sunni states have their own will, agenda and reasons.
People like you who claim that all evil only comes from the US and Israel, are trapped in your black and white worldview.
The Turks are now a Muslim brotherhood controlled nation, they dont need the US to be inspired by Sunni Islam.
It is not the US alone, but a Symbiosis between the Sunni states and the US.
Like in the coalition against Iran. The Sunni states are actually even more pushing of this agenda than the US.
The Sunni Muslim states are no drones without will, ideology or agenda. They have their ideology and agenda dating back to a time where the US has not even existed.
The Syrian war was started not by the US, but by a coalition of Turkey, US, Israel, France, UK and other allied states. They shared and share an equal intrest. It is not the evil US pushing mindless drone states, but nations partnering on the basis on shared interests.

But before the war started, was the error of Assad, to loosed the policy of his father, and inviting Turkish and Arabic traders and financial investors. This lead to a breakdown of the internal, former protected Syrian market, and Assad trying to reverse this policy, which infuriated Turkey and rich Arab states who did not want to loose the new influence they bought in Syria.

Israel, which was been lobbying Assad to join its side since decades, and the US, which under Bush Jr. wanted to remodel the middle east, and those Arab states and Turkey then joined their efforts. Leading to the uprising which started the war. But this uprising was only one of many Islamist uprisings. It has been a constant in Syrias history. No need for the US to create this Jihadist ideology, it has been there is a major part of Syrians ever since.

And while the US did stop most of their Anti-Assad programms, and now only concentrates on propping up the Kurds and keeping Al Tanf for Israel, Turkey never has followed their path. On the contrary, they now lead the efforts, and their extremly capable and ruthless (and now Islamist) intelligence service MIT is pulling the strings of all Jihadis exept Al Tanf and ISIS (presumely cooperation stopped after Turkey let the US kill Baghdadi in Turkey occupied Idlib).

The whole mess is complicated. Your black and white worldview though has nothing to do with the reality of it. Its a mess of so many schemers and forces, that even Game Of Thrones looks like a simple play.

Icarus Tanović

It is very right and you’re wrong. Sunni Muslims? Those you’re referring to are Wahhabis. And therefore not Muslims.

SteLe

LOL. Wahhabism is Islam. You are a Takfiri yourself when you call Takfiris Takfirisris.
Islam has never had a single instance who could declare someone a Muslim or Non-Muslim since the death of Mohammed.
And now you claim to be the new single leader of the Umma who can declare someone Muslim?
Funny.
Though you are doing the same thing that the Wahabbis do. Say that someone is not “a true Muslim”. And that is as equally Takfirism as the Wahabbis declare Shias and Sufis and others to be “no true muslim”.
Funny even more so that you seem to be a Serb and no Muslim. Or am i wrong and you are a Muslim and leader of the Umma, son of the propeht?
Anway, thanks for downvoting but still commenting. Most just downvote like a bitch and dont even try to find an argument.

Icarus Tanović

No, you are spammer here and you are undercover Islamophobic asshole who is trying the best he can to make fools of all of us with uour statements.
You are Zionistic prick.
Go ahead you bum and check joint Fatwa from Grozny on Wahhabism, the Satanic faith.
Now go and fuck you!

SteLe

Islamophobic. Um-hum..Because i say that the Wahabbis are part of Islam, as are any other sect? Only because some self declard Islamis authoritys make fatwa?

Zionist prick: Um-hum. Because i can differentiate between Jews and Zionists?

I make fools of all of you? Um-Hum. Because i qeustion your little fanclub here, that plays cheerleaders to yourself, while in the “real world” you are only a few lonely guys who are just a small drop in your society which no ones cares about? That is hurting you`?

SteLe

To the other downvoters, who dont have the balls like Icarus do answer:
Why do you downvote when you dont have even a single counter argument worthy of posting?

SteLe

Fuck, ali, maybe you care about reading. If you would, you could see that i said nothing like that, to the contrary.
Whahabism is a part of Islam. Just like any other sect. If you say Whahabism is no “true Muslim” you are actually a Takfiri.
Educate me, but after the death of the prophet, there has never been a singular person who could declare someone a “true Muslim” or not.

That is not to say that the Islamic hsitory has not been full of people like you, who claim that they are true Muslims and others are not.
But then you are the same cancer that is responsible for the fact that the whole middle east is a place of genocide and sectarian hatered. From the time of Mohammends death to this very day.
I understand you, as a beliver are feeling enraged and attacked by the whahabism declaring you a non Muslim. But you are just as sectarian and of the same mindset when you act like them.
As a Shia you should understand that this Takfiri mindest is a cancer. But you are no better. And that is the sad part.

SteLe

Thanks for replying Ali.

I should have made it more clear, that i dont see you and Whahabism (or other radical Sunni sects in this flavor) as equals in general.
But when i see a Muslim (or a Christian) call another “not Muslim”, this is what i have a problem with.
The Whahabis are certainly an inhumane death cult (IMHO there is no ideology compareable in power today that is so inhumane), but they have been founded with the declared objective to “go back to the very roots of Islam”.
You can say you dont share this agenda, you can say they perverted Islam. And you may well be right. But for them, they believe, just as you.
They may be wrong, but i think this is not for you or me to judge. Only god can, and we can not usurp that responsibility.
That is the main point. Fighting them when they attack you is your right, but no good comes from using the same methods as those death cultists.
You have been prosecuted for 1500 years, and you have certainly every right to fight and despise them. But as long as they believe in the propeht, even though they may be wrong in their believe, they are Muslims.
There is no authority to declare this, but god alone.
And they can not be defeated by military means alone. Only if the cancer of Whahabism can be countered from spreading in Sunni populations, and if the majority of Sunnis unite with Shias, can Wahabism be stopped.
Declaring them Non-Muslim will only serve them.
I have followed and studied the middle east since my childhood, starting with the Persian friends i had, and now especially since the Iraq and now Syrian war. I have seen the atrocites that the Whahabis call “religion”, and will never forgot the hundrets of killings even the nazis could not image in their cruelty. They haunt me. It is a cancer needed to be stopped, not used and propped up by our western nations. That is a shame and sin.
But nothing good ever comes from Takfirism. No matter how honest and good the cause.
Anyway, thanks for answering.

Have a good night.

Ronald

First post you’ve made that communicates any sense, well done.

SteLe

Hm, my profile is open and non-private, and while i may have a different standpoint than many cheerleaders here, i think i have posted at least some that makes sense.

What you mean is that my post is saying something you agree with.
If you dont think/claim you are the only person on earth who makes sense, you should not confuse making sense with a different (informed) opinion.

Sadly most here just want their own opion and worldview to be agreeded to and cheerleadered, and seem unable to discuss with someone who has a different opinion.

I know it is hard, but i learned to discuss with everyone. Jew, Nazis, i dont give a shit. For me, only an discussion counts, may the one with the better argument win. I dont give a shit about being agreed to, i dont need cheerleaders for my ego.

I would ask you to also post on my comments when you disagree. If you can counter me argument, i am happy too. But those persons here downvoting, ignoring all arguments i make and just attack without arguments and only name calling, i can not stand.

SteLe

Never mind Ali. You answered below, please disregard my post above.

Icarus Tanović

It isnt my dear Ali, it is very clear all over the World who is a Mualim or who isn’t.
And who doesn’t understand that Wahhabis are NOT Muslims therefore he muct be either Zionistic evil or otherwise Islamophob.

SteLe

How nice to be able to split the world in black and right. Evil and Good. Nothing in between.

That is the fascistic mindset, just like the Takfiris.

You both declare the other a non muslim, and you both deny their right to exist.
I say you are both Muslim, as long as you believe to.

You are no Islamic authority, as there is none. But you dont need to. You simply know you are the good side, so the other must be evil.
No wonder your mindset is the reason the Balkan is still a sectarian hell.

SteLe

Hm. You started to answer my answer to you below, but stopped?
What happend?
I would understand you have no time to answer, as i myself often have because i have to work and care for my family and grand family. But starting to write, as it shows on Disqus, and then just stopping.. It looks like you have no argument contrary to mine.
Maybe i could actually educate you that you are just as sectarian as the Whahabis.
That would be amazing. Though i doubt your 1500s old feud will stop before you killed all of yourself.
As a united Umma, when you would accept other sects as Muslims also, without Takfirism, you would be unstoppable. All the devide and conquer scheming of the US and other imperial powers would stop being effective. No imperial power could push you down and play you.
But i have lost my hope that any side of you could overcome your 1500s old hatered.
And it must hurt, that you as Shia had the rightful heir to the propeht, while the non-rightul Sunnis now outnumber you over 1:5.
Your whole identity is build on the betrayal of the Imman Ali, even you are named in his name. I understand that sits too deep to overcome.

But it is either you and radical Sunni overcome it, build bridges and unite the Umma, or be used and abused in imperial devide and concquer schemes for all times.
It is a guardian knot.

Willing Conscience (The Truths

If the US still supports them why have they killed more than 100 of the pro Turkish terrorists with airstrikes, and why are most of the militants in Idlib/Aleppo politically aligned to Turkey and not the US, and why don’t they use new US weapons instead of using Turkish Grad launchers, Turkish heavy mortars, Turkish artillery, and Turkish drones, it’s all well and good to keep saying the US still supports them, but all the facts on the ground say the exact opposite.
The US sacked the FSA back in june 2018, since then they’ve only supported 2 Syrian opposition groups, the SDC/SDF [100,000 fighters] in northern Syria, and Maghawir al-Thawra near Al Tanf, and they only have about 250 fighters.
Back in june 2018 the Israelis, the US, and the Arab League all started saying they no longer wanted Assad removed, they were all happy for him to remain in power, but Erdogan and the Muslim Brotherhood kept saying Assad wouldn’t be allowed to remain in power, and now 2 years later Israel, the US and the Arab League are still saying Assad can remain in power, but Erdogan and the Muslim Brotherhood are still saying he can’t.
Does Assad accuse the US of meddling in Idlib and Aleppo, no he doesn’t. he just accuses them of interfering in north eastern Syria, but Assad’s constantly complaining about Turkish interventions in Idlib and Aleppo, and of all the people who should know what the real situation is in idlib/Aleppo, I’d say Assad’s the only one we should listen to.

Jim Allen

Dude, go stick with CNN, , US=NATO country
Turkey=NATO country. al CIAeda, ISIS, and the list of “terrorist” organizations used by these two terrorist organizations to use to appear larger in number, and when shit gets too hot for them using their given title’s.
These are created by Western intelligence services, and Mossad, with the Headcutters doing recruiting. Trained, armed, supplied, and paid to be US/NATO pet enemies.
(al CIAeda, was also scapegoat for 9-11)
US needed an “enemy” to justify it’s invasion of sovereign countries. Some are sent in ahead to help create the bullshit US Government fabricated narrative of “evil dictator” that terrorizes his own people. Keeps them poverty stricken in the “failed State” in a “3rd world shithole country.” Of course US Government is duty bound to give “freedom” to these people, a quick “regime change” and new puppet Government. Razing countries to the ground, stealing resources for their masters. The “terrorists” control the resources, sell some off to run the organisation, the countries gold reserves already sent to Rothschild.
Syria is the first country to put up a fight. With Iran, and Hezbollah, finally requested military assistance from Russia, another long time ally. Russia took a year seeking peaceful solutions, and to fight the “terrorists”in Syria. All rebuffed, Russia joined Sryia, giving military assistance, as requested. The Russians at first couldn’t figure out why US Coalition was doing all this bombing in the middle of the desert. Claiming it was bombing al CIAeda, and now ISIS.
With Kerry calling for a cease-fire at intervals, to “negotiate.” The rest of the time US bombed civilians, civilian infrastructure, and SAA/Hezbollah, using their “terrorists” as proxy ground forces. Making the most ridiculous and idiotic demands along with the even more outright stupid propaganda narratives against Russia.
Kerry’s cease-fires, we’re not to negotiate, but to resupply al CIAeda, and ISIS. (and whatever title they were using at the time. The “terrorists” all reapplied, and with US air support attacked SAA without warning every time. Couple of these, and the next cease-fire, the convoys of supplies were destroyed, SAA struck first. The oil tankers hauling stolen oil through Turkey to the port to load on US flagged tankers that sailed to Israel and sold at half price were destroyed. There’s lot’s of details, the power units pulling the tankers were US made trucks. These trucks were to be destroyed under US emissions law that outlawed mechanical diesel engines over 50 horsepower. They didn’t look too destroyed before Russia bombed them.
US made trucks aren’t popular outside North America, Scania, MAN, etc. are preferred. I recognized some of the trucks. Others were sent to Guatamala, Vietnam, and Mexico. People were getting citations in the mail on the trucks they’d given up to the Fed’s. Most in Southern California, Registration was never changed.
There is no doubt the “terrorist organizations are US supported. US gives zero fucks about their “terrorist forces, abandons them, bombs them, whatever pleases them. US military does it’s own troops the same way.
US/NATO uses DU munitions, soldiers are turning up with cancer at growing rates just handling the munitions. Loading aircraft, ammo belts, other munitions. US military sprayed this shit liberally all over Iraq, Libya, Syria, and every country it’s invaded in the last 20 years. DU munitions projectiles, bomb casings, etc., are made from spend reactor cores. Cesium, Strontium, Barium, Uranium, Plutonium, and a few other fun radioactive things. The dust coming off these bullets, cannon rounds, artillery, and bombs is deadly when breathed Cesium, and Strontium in particular.
US Government is de-populating USA, and other countries under UN Agenda 21/2030 Sustainability Development Guidelines now. That US attacks it’s pet enemies means absolutely nothing. Turkey’s thing with these groups is a distraction of some sort.
US military started the shit in Yemen, then handed it off to the Headcutters. So they can lose there too. Houthis, guys running round the desert in flip-flops, just kicking the shit out of the Headcutters. Despite sanctions, and blockading the port.
Turkey is heavily invested in Libya, and on the losing side, has investments in Syria, cooled off against Greece, but heading into Azerbaijan. War on three fronts. Supporting an ally that attempted a coup against him not long ago. Then slapped sanctions, cancelled Turkey’s order for F-35, (Erdogan dodged a bullet there) and other punishments for buying S-400. Turkey was told not to buy it.
In my lifetime I’ve never seen a country punish an ally, sanction, slap tariffs, threaten, and treat an ally as though it’s an enemy. Until 2018. Then piling on.
US Government don’t care.

Willing Conscience (The Truths

You certainly do despise the US government and all the nasty things they’ve done, I can’t blame you for that, but what I do want to hold you to account for is you misrepresentation of the facts, you said this,

“These militants aren’t backed by Turkey.
They’re still US backed and US created. Their pay may be laundered through Turkey.”

You’re either lying misinformed, or just plain and simply wrong, I’m assuming you’re simply mistaken.
Turkey does support the terrorists that belong to Al Nusra Front, and they also help HTS as well, and that’s a fact that not even SF disputes, they actually call them Turkish backed terrorist/militants/rebels all the time on SF news, but they never ever call them US backed terrorists, not even once have they called them US backed terrorists, at least not since Trump sacked the FSA and kicked them out of Al Tanf back in june 2018.
And as far as saying they’re all created by the US that’s totally incorrect. Don’t you think any of the major Islamic terrorist organizations were actually domestically inspired, do you honestly believe the US was the only entity creating terrorist organizations in Syria.
The Saudis were the people behind HTS at the start so they aren’t US creations, and the Turkmenistan Islamic Party [TIP] aren’t US creations either, they don’t have US backing or support, China doesn’t say they do, they instead point the finger at the Muslim Brotherhood and Erdogan and say they’re the reason the TIP are in Syria, they even offered to help Assad kill them last year according to SF and many other media sources.
I suggest you stop living in the past and accept the new reality, The Arab league stopped supporting the terrorists back in mid 2017, they stopped supporting HTS financially and militarily, and they also brokered a reconciliation agreement between the 60,000 strong Southern front Alliance and the Syrian government, and then they started opening up diplomatic relations with the Syrian government, that’s the facts.
Then in december 2017 Trump started telling the Kurds he wanted to pull out of Syria, since then he’s made 3 official announcements concerning a withdrawal, all opposed by the US bureaucracy. Then in june 2018 Trump made some more announcements along with Israel, they both said they no longer had a problem with Assad remaining in power, they also told the US supported FSA to lay down their arms and reconcile with the Syrian government, and also warned they wouldn’t assist the rebels if they fought against the SAA. Then they sat back and watched Syria, Iran, and Russia take back Quneitra, Daraa, and As Suwayda in just under 2 months, so they weren’t supporting HTS, the FSA, or Isis back then were they.
If you don’t trust me then please explain this, why don’t SF or any of the other major English language media outlets like Sputnik + RT, ever refer to HTS, AL Nusra Front, The National Front for Liberation [NFL], The Syrian National Army [SNA], the Syrian Front for Liberation [SFL], or the Free Syrian Army [FSA] as US backed/supported terrorists, they always call them Turkish supported/backed terrorists/militants/rebels. They call them Turkish backed/supported terrorists/militants/rebels for a reason.
And the biggest terrorist supporters in Syria are the people trying to give them political power through the implementation of UN resolution 2254, that’s the real shocking truth that no one talks about.

Jim Allen

Yes, I know.

Антон С

US and saudian mininons: DAESH, SDF, all sorts of “democrats” and some kurdish groups.
Turkish minions: DaN, turkomans (or turkmen).
Turkey wish to annex Idlib as they did with Antioch (Hatay).

PZIVJ

OH great, now the Jihadist rats are in IDLIN ! :)

George King

Hehe, need to put a lid on all the terrorist ie no surrender nor escape. Then rename to Idlid hehe…

Cromwell

Stop responding to attacks and start initiating them,roll those tanks and don’t stop before you liberate Idlib city,the ongoing situation is crazy.

Антон С

It’s war with Turkey. Need to prepare better.

Willing Conscience (The Truths

“Hayat Tahrir al-Sham militants also claimed that they had shot down a Russian Orlan-10 reconnaissance unmanned aerial vehicle in northwestern Hama.”

From what I’ve been reading it was actually the Al Fatah Al Mubin Operations Room terrorists who announced that a drone had crashed, and they didn’t announce it had been shot down by anyone, just crashed.

Антон С

Interesting. It’s light UAV and hard to shot down with hand AA systems or guns. I doubt that terrorists can do it with their arsenal.

Willing Conscience (The Truths

Now you mention it I can’t see any bullet or shrapnel damage on the wreck, it just looks like it fell out of the sky and broke apart on impact.

cechas vodobenikov

sectarianism serves US/turkey imperialism—except here where their proxies fight each other…all religions have created schisms, sects—all have mystical offshoots–Islam, Judaism, Christianity…any artifice can be exploited to creat divisions; ethnic divisions have long been exploited to assist colonizers…an unfortunate truth

Антон С

First one looks like unguided missiles (rockets) or MLRS.

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