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Full Price Plus 50% Or More: Trump Seeks Financial Compensations From From Nations Hosting U.S. Troops

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The Trump administration is drawing up demands that Germany, Japan and eventually any other nation hosting US troops pay the full price of US soldiers deployed on their soil – plus 50% or more for the privilege of hosting them, according to multiple reports in US media citin various anonymous officials and ‘informed sources’.

According to repots, in some cases, nations hosting US troops could be asked to pay 5 to 6 times as much as they do now under the “Cost Plus 50” formula.

“Trump has championed the idea for months. His insistence on it almost derailed recent talks with South Korea over the status of 28,000 US troops in the country when he overruled his negotiators with a note to National Security Advisor John Bolton saying, “We want cost plus 50.”

The president’s team sees the move as one way to prod Nato partners into accelerating increases in defence spending – an issue Trump has hammered allies about since taking office. While Trump claims his pressure has led to billions of dollars more in allied defence spending, he’s chafed at what he sees as the slow pace of increases.

“Wealthy, wealthy countries that we’re protecting are all under notice,” Trump said in a speech at the Pentagon on Jan 17. “We cannot be the fools for others.”

Officials caution that the idea is one of many under consideration as the US presses allies to pay more, and it may be toned down. Yet even at this early stage, it has sent shock waves through the departments of Defence and State, where officials fear it will be an especially large affront to stalwart US allies in Asia and Europe already questioning the depth of Trump’s commitment to them,” The Straits Times reported on the issue.

So far, Trump’s idea to raise funds from US allies have faced a large wave of criticism in the mainstream media. The common argument is that this move would demonstrate a lack of “commitment” to US allies in Europe and Asia. On the other hand, this move seems logical in the framework of the Trump-delcared strategy to strengthen the US national industry, including the military industrial complex. The Trump administration is not going to abandon US military infrastructure around the world, but it does not want to pay for it as much as it does.

From the European perspective, all EU nations, which have been for a long time exploiting the US military presence as a political tool to justiy a low-scale military spending, this could be seen as an “unfriendly” move. They get used to the fact that the US takes a military spending burden off their back thus buying their loyality.

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  • World_Eye

    Why in the first place you will need this bitches in your country. Oh well yes of course I forgot, countries as Poland the Baltic ones, Georgia, Ukraine with the frear raised to the moon from the Russians will give and pay as much as they need to have some few american bitches in their country, in which they will feel safe from Russian invasion LMAO. Don’t underestimate Russia, if Russia want to attack you they will not look if you have Americans or whatever, they will make Dust. But anyway back to normal, only the ones with this fear from Russians will be on this list to pay, no one else. Why would someone with good intentions towards Russia should host American bitches in their countries.

    • AlexanderAmproz

      Private & self approved post is a bad Troll sign !

      Luckily Putin is smarter and more elegant than you are !

      • World_Eye

        Sorry Zio-Troll we don’t work at this hour plz try again in a few years.

      • Jens Holm

        USSR was famous for having the tallest dwarfs and world record in available parkingspaces.

    • Jens Holm

      Thats only blur.

      NO MORE USSR TO BERLIN. Do You get it.

      Even as You as the only one lost ww1 3 times, You didnt learn. WE did.

      The Zar system as well as Stalin and followers has collapsed by themselves, because they are and were wrong.

  • AlexanderAmproz

    US/UK Warmongers should go Home

    instead to terrorise and destroy the World to keep their Empire
    built thanks Hiroshima done to Terrorise the whole World !
    Kidnaping, Holdup, Gangsters, Bluff, Racism, Fascism, Genocides,
    Ignorance, Manipulations, Propaganda, and Junk-Food
    is their invasive Rude Cowboys Bigmouth Culture for Pilfering !

    Enough is Enough, it’s ample time for the Decadent Empire to vanish

    NATO isn’t Europe, but the US/UK tugs for Colonialism !

    Anglo-American Money Owners Organized World War II
    https://www.voltairenet.org/article187508.html

    Europe on the Brink of Collapse
    https://russia-insider.com/en/europe-brink-collapse/ri25951

    • daniel

      Germany and Japan dont want US troops go home,

      • AlexanderAmproz

        Tell that to the Israhelis,

        they are ready to believe your fairy Tales !

        • Feudalism Victory

          The majority does not want to face china or Russia alone. At least the germans certainly don’t.

          I wouldnt bet much on japanese sanity. Those people are god damned weird.

          • AlexanderAmproz

            Blind stubborned ignorance fit to the Cowboys Junk-Food

            https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/08/08/hiroshima-and-nagasaki-fictions-and-facts/
            Hiroshima and Nagasaki: Fictions and Facts

            by JOHN LAFORGE FacebookTwitterRedditEmail

            About the US atomic destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945, popular accounts still stick to the false but “greatest generation” story that, “Without [them], more Japanese would have died in a US assault on the islands, as would have tens of thousands of Americans,” as Mike Hashimoto wrote in the Dallas Morning News in 2016.

            The New York Times reported that year, “Many historians believe the bombings [of] Hiroshima and then Nagasaki, which together took the lives of more than 200,000 people, saved lives on balance, since an invasion of the islands would have led to far greater bloodshed.” Many historians, perhaps; but not that many.

            On the contrary the chief historian of the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission, J. Samuel Walker, wrote in the journal Diplomatic History in 1990, “The consensus among scholars is that the bomb was not needed to avoid an invasion of Japan and to end the war within a relatively short time. It is clear that alternatives to the bomb existed and that Truman and his advisers knew it.”

            Historian Martin Sherwin has debunked the tale of the “good” atom bombs, citing in his 2003 book A World Destroyed “a ‘considerable body’ of new evidence that suggested the bomb may have cost, rather than saved, American lives. That is, if the US had not been so determined to complete, test, and finally use the bomb, it might have arranged the Japanese surrender weeks earlier, preventing much bloodshed on Okinawa.”

            Historian Gar Alperovitz wrote in Atomic Diplomacy (Vintage Books, 1967), “available evidence shows the atomic bomb was not needed to end the war or to save lives — and that this was understood by American leaders at the time.” Further declassification of wartime secrets and 28 additional years of research make Alperovitz’s definitive 1995 history The Decision to Use the Atomic Bomb even stronger on this point.

            Admirals and Generals Destroy the Myth

            Combat veterans and bomber crews defeated Japan well before August 6, 1945 by fighting and dying in dreadful battles over Midway, Guadalcanal, Iwo Jima, Okinawa, and elsewhere, a fact corroborated by dozens of military commanders, as Maj. Gen. Curtis LeMay, head of the 21st Bomber Command, boasted. LeMay said publicly on Sept. 20, 1945: “The war would have been over in two weeks without the Russians entering and without the atomic bomb.” Asked to clarify, the general who directed the destruction of 67 Japanese cities using mass incendiary attacks doubled down saying, “The atomic bomb had nothing to do with the end of the war at all.”

            Gen. George Kenny, who commanded parts of the Army Air Forces in the Pacific, was asked in 1969 for his opinion and said, “I think we had the Japs [sic] licked anyhow. I think they would have quit probably within a week or so of when they did quit.” Alperovitz notes further that Adm. Lewis Strauss, an assistant to WW II Navy Secretary James Forrestal, wrote to historian Robert Albion in 1960: “[F]rom the Navy’s point of view, there are statements by Admiral King, Admiral Halsey, Admiral Radford, Admiral Nimitz and others who expressed themselves to the effect that neither the atomic bomb nor the proposed invasion of the Japanese mainland were necessary to produce the surrender.”

            In Mandate for Change, President Dwight Eisenhower admitted that when Sec. of War Henry Stimson told him atomic bombs were going to be used, “I voiced to him my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary….”

            President Truman’s Chief of Staff, Adm. William Leahy, agreed. As Robert Lifton and Greg Mitchell, report in Hiroshima in America: 50 Years of Denial, Leahy said, “It is my opinion that the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender.…” Even official histories have debunked the fiction. “[T]he US Strategic Bombing Survey published its conclusion that Japan would likely have surrendered in 1945 without atomic bombing, without a Soviet declaration of war, and without an American invasion,” Alperovitz recounted in The Decision.

            Still, the myth that the mass destruction of 200,000 was necessary to save lives is believed by millions in the US who refuse to consider or accept the historical record. This greatest of the “greatest generation’s” yarns may help some sleep at night, and to think better of killing civilians than does the rest of the world, but it doesn’t help abolish nuclear weapons.

          • Feudalism Victory

            Just stick with your own commentary. Posting articles in your comments is stupid.

          • Eezy Green

            He’s not posting articles, he is quoting officials who’s statements reinforce his commentary.

            Read for comprehension and you will learn more.

          • Jens Holm

            I agree. Qoting is fine.

          • Jens Holm

            You certainly has written a lot.

          • AlexanderAmproz

            Russian and Chinese aren’t Warmongers alike UK/US
            with Genocide Culture.

            The CIA/Jewish/Hollywood is alike the Torah, Bible, Quran,

            If there is One True Word, it’s a “Miracle”

          • Feudalism Victory

            Um there isn’t a large russian and chinese states because they haven’t been overriding other cultures. Russia has no population growth thats why there so nice.

            And china well they have those million muslims in camps and tibetans being erased. Plus there used to be a lot of different cultures in china that have disappeared with out a trace.

            Spare me the fanboy only the us is evil bullshit. You know not of what you speak.

          • AlexanderAmproz

            Did you ever visited Russia and China to know what about you speak ?

            I did it many times, even had a Penthouse in China during 12 years !

          • Jens Holm

            You should have stayed in that Penthouse.

          • Jens Holm

            Again nonsense of the worst kind.

          • AlexanderAmproz

            Pearl Harbour was self-inflicted for Colonialism purposes alike 9/11 !
            Japanese are much better civilised than Yanks.

            Clemenceau said : ” The US went straight from Barbary to Decadence
            without to pass by Civilisation” !

            Again “tell me what do you eat, I will tell you who you are” !

            Japanese food isn’t Junk-Food !

          • Jens Holm

            I dont care. So many has said a lot. USSR not even took part of the fight against Japan until they in 1945 wanted some land back.

            China and even Brittain paid a high price.

            USA is always blamed for not letting so many Americans being killed as Stalin did. Its also forgotten, that until 1938 USA only had 400.000 soldiers including the home guard and replaced France and GB as superpower.

        • Jens Holm

          You are brainwashed in a very mismaneged way. A minimum – as well oriented – is, that other options are much worse.

      • FlorianGeyer

        Most ordinary people do. The ones I have met anyway.

        • AlexanderAmproz

          It depends how brainwashed and Educated they are,
          but time is changing and the US are luckily becoming has been.

          Truth of what happened in Libya, Syria is coming out step by step !

          • Jens Holm

            You certainly seemes not able to see how we as the wast majority are.

            Nothing is hidden about Liby, Syria as well as other areas in fire. Its even well descriebed by internet, where You can get the many pop versions by Wikipedia as well.

            It must be very censured, where You are, if things is comming up to You, where You are. I have followed all very well incl. the very dirty things and are in opposition to, we should be there at all.

            But its because its a waste trying to devellop people, which by tradition and relgion are not able to. So I prefare a wall around all that ancient garbage of Yours and only oil out and food in to fair prices.

            When we had Vikings here in Scandinavia, You got Islam. But we have develloped since. We reduced our last King having power as a Dictator in 1949.

        • Jens Holm

          Yes, and we also see not many want an EU military force in stead. Some might like a little looser connection, but they mainly dont want to cut at all.

    • Feudalism Victory

      Boy are you ever going to be disappointed if the globalists kill off the nation state.

      Then youll really see some unaccountable violence when they can us groups from different sides of the world oppressing each other.

      Imagine Nigerian peacekeepers lording it over new york or say americans in baghdad?

      People will wish it was the us just occasionally droning wedding parties.

      • AlexanderAmproz

        Do you are an ignorant US Dumb Donkey ?

        Anglo-American Money Owners Organized World War II

        To mark the 70th anniversary of the Victory against Nazism, we publish a study of Valentin Katasonov on financing of the NSDAP and the rearmament of the Third Reich. The author deals with new documents that confirm the organization of the Second World War by US and UK Bankers, covered by President Franklin Roosevelt and Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, in the hope of destroying the USSR. This study raises new questions that will be addressed in a future article.
        https://www.voltairenet.org/article187508.html

        https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/10/26/the-simulacra-democracy/
        The Simulacra Democracy

        by JOHN STEPPLING

        … a nation in which 87 percent of eighteen- to twenty-four year olds (according to a 2002 National Geographic Society/Roper Poll survey) cannot locate Iran or Iraq on a world map and 11 percent cannot locate the United States (!) is not merely “intellectually sluggish.” It would be more accurate to call it moronic, capable of being fooled into believing anything …”
        ====================================

        Thieves Like Us: the Violent Theft of Land and Capital is at the Core of the U.S. Experiment

        by ROXANNE DUNBAR-ORTIZ

        The United States has been at war every day since its founding, often covertly and often in several parts of the world at once. As ghastly as that sentence is, it still does not capture the full picture. Indeed, prior to its founding, what would become the United States was engaged—as it would continue to be for more than a century following—in internal warfare to piece together its continental territory. Even during the Civil War, both the Union and Confederate armies continued to war against the nations of the Diné and Apache, the Cheyenne and the Dakota, inflicting hideous massacres upon civilians and forcing their relocations. Yet when considering the history of U.S. imperialism and militarism, few historians trace their genesis to this period of internal empire-building. They should. The origin of the United States in settler colonialism—as an empire born from the violent acquisition of indigenous lands and the ruthless devaluation of indigenous lives—lends the country unique characteristics that matter when considering questions of how to unhitch its future from its violent DNA.

        The United States is not exceptional in the amount of violence or bloodshed when compared to colonial conquests in Africa, Asia, the Caribbean, and South America. Elimination of the native is implicit in settler colonialism and colonial projects in which large swaths of land and workforces are sought for commercial exploitation. Extreme violence against noncombatants was a defining characteristic of all European colonialism, often with genocidal results.

        The privatization of land is at the core of the U.S. experiment, and its military powerhouse was born to expropriate resources. Apt, then, that we once again have a real estate man for president.

        Rather, what distinguishes the United States is the triumphal mythology attached to that violence and its political uses, even to this day. The post–9/11 external and internal U.S. war against Muslims-as-“barbarians” finds its prefiguration in the “savage wars” of the American colonies and the early U.S. state against Native Americans. And when there were, in effect, no Native Americans left to fight, the practice of “savage wars” remained. In the twentieth century, well before the War on Terror, the United States carried out large-scale warfare in the Philippines, Europe, Korea, and Vietnam; prolonged invasions and occupations in Cuba, Nicaragua, Haiti, and the Dominican Republic; and counterinsurgencies in Columbia and Southern Africa. In all instances, the United States has perceived itself to be pitted in war against savage forces.

        Appropriating the land from its stewards was racialized war from the first British settlement in Jamestown, pitting “civilization” against “savagery.” Through this pursuit, the U.S. military gained its unique character as a force with mastery in “irregular” warfare. In spite of this, most military historians pay little attention to the so-called Indian Wars from 1607 to 1890, as well as the 1846–48 invasion and occupation of Mexico. Yet it was during the nearly two centuries of British colonization of North America that generations of settlers gained experience as “Indian fighters” outside any organized military institution. While large, highly regimented “regular” armies fought over geopolitical goals in Europe, Anglo settlers in North America waged deadly irregular warfare against the continent’s indigenous nations to seize their land, resources, and roads, driving them westward and eventually forcibly relocating them west of the Mississippi. Even following the founding of the professional U.S. Army in the 1810s, irregular warfare was the method of the U.S. conquest of the Ohio Valley, Great Lakes, Southeast, and Mississippi Valley regions, then west of the Mississippi to the Pacific, including taking half of Mexico. Since that time, irregular methods have been used in tandem with operations of regular armed forces and are, perhaps, what most marks U.S. armed forces as different from other armies of global powers.

        By the presidency of Andrew Jackson (1829–37), whose lust for displacing and killing Native Americans was unparalleled, the character of the U.S. armed forces had come, in the national imaginary, to be deeply entangled with the mystique of indigenous nations—as though, in adopting the practices of irregular warfare, U.S. soldiers had become the very thing they were fighting. This persona involved a certain identification with the Native enemy, marking the settler as Native American rather than European. This was part of the sleight of hand by which U.S. Americans came to genuinely believe that they had a rightful claim to the continent: they had fought for it and “become” its indigenous inhabitants.

        Irregular military techniques that were perfected while expropriating Native American lands were then applied to fighting the Mexican Republic. At the time of its independence from Spain in 1821, the territory of Mexico included what is now the states of California, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, Nevada, Utah, and Texas. Upon independence, Mexico continued the practice of allowing non-Mexicans to acquire large swaths of land for development under land grants, with the assumption that this would also mean the welcome eradication of indigenous peoples. By 1836 nearly 40,000 Americans, nearly all slavers (and not counting the enslaved), had moved to Mexican Texas. Their ranger militias were a part of the settlement, and in 1835 became formally institutionalized as the Texas Rangers. Their principal state-sponsored task was the eradication of the Comanche nation and all other Native peoples in Texas. Mounted and armed with the new killing machine, the five-shot Colt Paterson revolver, they did so with dedicated precision.

        Having perfected their art in counterinsurgency operations against Comanches and other Native communities, the Texas Rangers went on to play a significant role in the U.S. invasion of Mexico. As seasoned counterinsurgents, they guided U.S. Army forces deep into Mexico, engaging in the Battle of Monterrey. Rangers also accompanied General Winfield Scott’s army and the Marines by sea, landing in Vera Cruz and mounting a siege of Mexico’s main commercial port city. They then marched on, leaving a path of civilian corpses and destruction, to occupy Mexico City, where the citizens called them Texas Devils. In defeat and under military occupation, Mexico ceded the northern half of its territory to the United States, and Texas became a state in 1845. Soon after, in 1860, Texas seceded, contributing its Rangers to the Confederate cause. After the Civil War, the Texas Rangers picked up where they had left off, pursuing counterinsurgency against both remaining Native communities and resistant Mexicans.

        The Marines also trace half of their mythological origins to the invasion of Mexico that nearly completed the continental United States. The opening lyric of the official hymn of the Marine Corps, composed and adopted in 1847, is “From the Halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli.” Tripoli refers to the First Barbary War of 1801–5, when the Marines were dispatched to North Africa by President Thomas Jefferson to invade the Berber Nation, shelling the city of Tripoli, taking captives, and blockading key Barbary ports for nearly four years. The “Hall of Montezuma,” though, refers to the invasion of Mexico: while the U.S. Army occupied what is now California, Arizona, and New Mexico, the Marines invaded by sea and marched to Mexico City, murdering and torturing civilian resisters along the way.

        So what does it matter, for those of us who strive for peace and justice, that the U.S. military had its start in killing indigenous populations, or that U.S. imperialism has its roots in the expropriation of indigenous lands?

        It matters because it tells us that the privatization of lands and other forms of human capital are at the core of the U.S. experiment. The militaristic-capitalist powerhouse of the United States derives from real estate (which includes African bodies, as well as appropriated land). It is apt that we once again have a real estate man for president, much like the first president, George Washington, whose fortune came mainly from his success speculating on unceded Indian lands. The U.S. governmental structure is designed to serve private property interests, the primary actors in establishing the United States being slavers and land speculators. That is, the United States was founded as a capitalist empire. This was exceptional in the world and has remained exceptional, though not in a way that benefits humanity. The military was designed to expropriate resources, guarding them against loss, and will continue to do so if left to its own devices under the control of rapacious capitalists.

        When extreme white nationalists make themselves visible—as they have for the past decade, and now more than ever with a vocal white nationalist president—they are dismissed as marginal, rather than being understood as the spiritual descendants of the settlers. White supremacists are not wrong when they claim that they understand something about the American Dream that the rest of us do not, though it is nothing to brag about. Indeed, the origins of the United States are consistent with white nationalist ideology. And this is where those of us who wish for peace and justice must start: with full awareness that we are trying to fundamentally change the nature of the country, which will always be extremely difficult work.

        A version of this article originally appeared in the Boston Review.

        • Feudalism Victory

          Im not. Im certainly not blind to the hypocrisy of us history. Doesn’t mean the alternatives cant be worse though.

          • AlexanderAmproz

            This is the most obscene & indigent excuse existing !

        • Jens Holm

          Aha, You are a dentist putting stone in bread.

      • FlorianGeyer

        “Imagine Nigerian peacekeepers lording it over new york ”

        hat would be perfect Karma :)

        • Feudalism Victory

          The new york liberals would certainly get a deeper appreciation of cultural diversity as theyre brutalized.

          Then theyll beg for some trumpian protection. It would almost be worth the horror to wipe the smug superiority of them.

          Almost.

          • FlorianGeyer

            I agree with all that you say, except the word ‘Almost ‘ :)

      • AlexanderAmproz

        The US created, armed and trained Terrorism Proxies to commit atrocities
        alike Israel, Al Qaida, ISIS, DAESH, EI and al did
        because they are awfully overweight and sick in mind !
        ==============================================
        https://www.naturalblaze.com/2018/03/71-percent-military-age-americans-too-sick-join.html

        71% Of Military Age Americans Too Sick To Join, Study Says

        POSTED ON MARCH 2, 2018

        71% of Military Age Americans Too Sick to Join, Study Says

        The United States is now facing a security crisis the likes of which it has never faced before. Although we are awaiting the attempts to blame it on them, it’s hard to see how the State Department or the corporate media can pin this on on the Russians.

        According to a new study by the Heritage Foundation, nearly 71% of young U.S. citizens are ineligible to serve in the military. To be more specific, out of 34 million people, between the ages of 17 and 24, more than 24 million are unable to join the military. Sixty percent of those ineligible to join are ineligible due to health problems or physical fitness. Around one-third are too obese.

        Indeed, 27% of young Americans are “too overweight for military service.”

        “The obesity issue is the most troubling because the trend is going in the wrong direction…by 2020 it could be as high as 50%,” said Major General Allen Batschelet, former Commander of U.S. Army Recruiting Command “back in 2015, “which means only two in ten would qualify to join the Army.”

        Other common health concerns are hearing and eyesight problems, asthma and mental illness.

        The study also shows that a quarter of those unfit for military service, are due to intelligence factors and are unable to complete their high school education and lack a “basic understanding of written and cognitive skills…to complete an organized program.”

        The research points out that these individuals are considered unfit despite the fact that the military routinely accepts people who do not complete their high school education and “rarely pass the armed forces qualification test.”

        Another 10% were ineligible due to a criminal record.

        The national security issue comes to play when one realizes that this stunning commentary on the intellectual, mental and physical health of the United States will lead to a very serious shortage of recruits for the military, meaning that the U.S. military will suffer from a lack of manpower.

        All ready, the U.S. Army is having a hard time meeting its 2018 goal of enlisting 80,000 volunteers.

        Army Major General Malcolm Frost, Commander of the Army’s Initial Military Training Command, publicly stated in 2017, that “I would argue that the next existential threat that we have… is the inability to man our military.”

        One highly important point to mention, is that the southern states, who have traditionally supplied the military with the largest amount of recruits, are experiencing even more concerning health issues than their Northern and Western counterparts.

        South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Florida, Arkansas, Mississippi, Louisiana, Tennessee and Texas are “significantly less fit, and consequently are more likely to encounter training related injuries and recruits from other U.S. states,” according to recent research conducted by the Citadel, the U.S. Army Public Health Center and the American Heart Association.

        The southern states mentioned above make up more than 37% of new recruits.

        Thus, Americans’ poor health, dropping IQ and mental instability have reached such a proportion that it is now a national security issue.

        While there are many other factors at play in regards to national security and the ability to man the military, such as an expansive military presence across the world and a constant state of warfare – America must begin to make drastic changes in its food supply, healthcare and culture unless it wants to do to itself what no outside power is capable of doing.

        • FlorianGeyer

          The yanks will still blame Russia for the US stupidity epidemic :)

        • Chris

          It is being done to the American people by the Zionist joos in control of all assets of power in the USA,not an outside power but an inside one destroying every facet of society drip by drip so only a small number in society will recognize what’s happening.,food is a major problem as you are what you eat.

    • Jens Holm

      You have no idea about what we think in Europe. Just hostile blappering of the worst kind.

  • Jimmy Jim

    USA>USA…..MAGA> MAGA pay up you hos you pussies can’t fend for yourself….USA>>>USA

  • Lazy Gamer

    More incentive to destabilize and plant the seeds of conflict.

  • J Roderet

    Germany and Japan must regrow their balls and kick the US occupiers out. These new demands are laughable.

    • James

      Their Elite are in on it just as much unfortunately :(

      • Jens Holm

        Yes, we are many. I am in it with my pension fond.

        But true the big ones hardly pays tax there, but they do pay for other things in stead.

    • Feudalism Victory

      With what? An angry petition? Suicide bombs? air strikes? Whats the tool they use when they find their balls?

      No like the warsaw pact the us has to withdraw on their own.

      • Jens Holm

        Thats right. Only long time changes are possible.

    • Jens Holm

      USA are no occupiers, You can buy stockings there as You wish and get influence as well as profit.

      Germany certainly is not dominated by USA. I dont know for japan. Your certainly should wash Your dirty flag and more then that.

  • Sinbad2

    It shows how close the US is to bankruptcy, the crash will come soon.

    • PZIVJ

      The crash will come to to smaller countries first. when interest rates go up ?

      • Sinbad2

        Yes that’s the usual way.
        The US loans dollars to poor countries at low rates, then some years later increases the rates. When the debtors default, the US takes ownership of the nations infrastructure, power grid etc.
        Normally it is very profitable 10 year cycle for the US, BUT, this time the US cannot pay the higher interest, and has been forced to keep rates low.

        The US is cactus fuctus, but inertia will keep it going, for a while.

        • Jens Holm

          You describe a car from only knowing a horse again.

        • AlexanderAmproz

          Countries inertia is like super tankers,

          40 km is needed to stop them…

    • James

      I would like to see that happen, the sooner the better!! But how will they untangle from the debt in US Dollar they need to repay? The only way I see the Dollar collapsing is if everyone at the same time refuses to use it anymore and has something alternative on hand, like gold, which from what I recall the US supposedly holds on behalf of them and will no doubt refuse to return it….

      • 1691

        I read somewhere that Russia and China are selling their usa state bonds in portions to prevent the shock wave throughout the markets. “Killing me softly” plan.

        • Jens Holm

          I havnt heard that, but its a normal procedure. None see the opposite, that USA also by that are buying itself back.

          They also dont see, that China can produce a lot, but its very unusefull, if none can effort to buy the stuff.

          China as well as USA produce for each other, so bad restrictions make loosers in the billion level for both.

          I didnt know Russia had any USA bonds.

      • Jens Holm

        Yes, and we wont. As a minimum USA will be helped to slide slowly, so we in the worlds economy can make important changes too.

        Sinbad2 and other Muhammed Economics dont understand. We have problems, but we talk about it. Trump is the worst for USA and the world right now, but China has done some few very needed changes.

  • Uwe

    Signs of the beginning to fall of US empire.

    • Jens Holm

      Yerrrh, soon the muslims with eat pig with the chinese :)

  • Tommy Jensen

    Exactly what I have said for years. Europe must pay the price cost +50%, and they must engage in direct operations near Russia´s borders as front troops for US advisors and leaders from behind.

    Europeans should not hide behind Americans and think we pay for your security. You are not that wonderful my dear European friends…………………………LOL.

    • James

      But nobody needs you, it’s only rhetoric drummed up by corrupt politicians doing the dirty work of the US.

      • Jens Holm

        Thats what You are told. USA as well as others do need reform. But who is so much better, that we should prefare their systems in stead. I see none.

        Its not my fault, You are a nobody.

    • AlexanderAmproz

      I beg your pardon, but Russia is part of Europe and Culture.
      Imperial UK/US created Hitler alike they did with Rouhollah Khomeini
      on purpose to destroy Iran-Iraq !

      Russia never attacked Europe outside self defense !
      The US Colonial Warmongers manipulation and propaganda is tiring
      Putin is hundreds times better than Trump Bolton, Benyamin Netanyahou and al !

      • hvaiallverden

        Yeah, sheeps, what do you know, really, apart from been spoon feed bollocks an mass for decades if not centurys, and, I beg to differ, when I slam, I dont do that because of the people, the people are usually an result of the history they are in, and have inherited, but again, I warned you, Russians, you tough it was easy, the Russians hands are cleen, the Russia is an piss loving people that never have and never will do anything, uh…. wrong.
        I do this for the Truth, nothing but the Truth.
        Russians and Finns, the truth, and I dont take on the Norwegians intot his right now, since the Norwegians are insanly evil scums, (khazars, aka Joohos) like the even more rotten Sweds, to me, the present invasion of rats is an sort of poetic justice, I hope the ruin their lands totally and rapes and sells the natives to the Joohos, like the Russians have done.
        http://www.hideoutnow.com/2019/03/someone-blames-finlands-success-on.ht

        I have only one agenda, apart from the Truth, and thats my people, the Finns, even Hitler knew us, because we are the elder race, the first born, and the natives of the North.
        Do NOT confuse us with the scam called North Sami, witch is the largest group, but everything they tell you, is flat out lies, I can prove everything.
        And yess, to the NorDicks, I am an person with an direct blood line from Suenjel.
        A nation much, much older than yours, the Russians stole it, and now, reaps the recourse, and that, was one of the reasons for attacking Finland in 39, another one convinitelly overlooked when we debate whom did what and the Karelian, an place the peaceloving Stalin had bombed to have an reason for invading and slughtering Finns.
        Yeah, dont that sound familiare, the methodic, huh.

        I hope the Finns hangs the entire Gov, and then give the invasion of rats 24h to get the f…. out or we hang them to, never ever trust Russia and the west, they are just as rotten as the western backed scums whom is destroying Finland from within.
        They are not Finns, they are scums.
        Hang em all.

        peace

        • AlexanderAmproz

          Keep your Chewing-gum and Coca-Cola
          to feed your thief and killer Cowboy brain !

        • Jens Holm

          Thats right. The winners too often forget the loosers. The karelians was Finns incl. Vippuri.

          But be carefull too. Isolation is not good as well. I allow me to think, You need the connection to Norden even it meant Swedes gav You a new religion hard.

        • AlexanderAmproz

          Finns are excellent on any aspects, maybe Scandinavia No1

          May I remember your President was Nikita Khrouchtchev
          and Iouri Andropov best friend, its ease relations.
          I have a US close friend who was Ambassador in Helsinki,
          he enjoyed a lot.

          About race, DNA research proved human races didn’t exist,
          humanists know that since long !
          Any kind of human growing with the Finland Culture and Schools
          will have the best chances to develop his brain, opposite
          for who will be born in the UK/US discriminative Empire…

          With some Batave roots, I am almost a related “cousin”
          Strangely, it’s one of my hometown citizen, Francois le Fort,
          who is the Russian Fleet funder….

          If I will have to look at Russia and Germany,
          it would be threw Cultural prism excellence,
          among the World best geniuses !

      • Jens Holm

        Thats not an excuse to be a part of Europe, if You dont behave like that. More the opposite behaving as You do.

  • James

    I had to really LOL at this when I first saw it! is this the same as mafia protection money or what?

    • Feudalism Victory

      The difference between a mafia and a government is like the difference between a cult and a religon.

      Its simply the size of the organization.

      • AlexanderAmproz

        Difference between the US and Mafia didn’t exist, it’s one of the same.

        Just remember the US Cardinal Paul Marcinkus in charge of the Vatican
        Money Laundering for the Mafia to provide secret funds for the CIA !
        What about the Colonel Oliver North Irangate ?

        New report suggests Israel linked to Irangate scandal
        https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=3-iDXKXUMKzgmwWGjL_4Aw&q=irangate+israel&oq=iran+gate&gs_l=psy-ab.1.2.0i10j0i22i10i30l6j0i22i30j0i22i10i30j0i22i30.2191.587201..596051…4.0..0.107.1053.13j1……0….1..gws-wiz…..0..0j0i131.XtKXMheGB-A

        There is Hundreds identical stories,
        If you are an absolute Ignorant, you can start with Noam Chomsky books !

        A US M.I.T Professor since 1958 !

        • Feudalism Victory

          You misunderstand. Im saying that theres no difference in approach of the two types just that size lends legitmacy.(and writing the laws is a nifty trick for legitmacy as well)

          • AlexanderAmproz

            Alike Israel robbed land by the UK/US to host Kahzar
            from Caspian-Ukraine area origins to built
            a Colonial Theocratic Racist-Fascist state as bad as the
            XVI Century Inquisition, a Barbarossa Dark-Ages Crusades Style !

  • Ole Johansen

    Stoltzenberg is possibly at present time the most dangerous man on the planet as he is a Zionist that has infiltrated into Norway, and there is no way one can find traces of his “roots” nor anything but traces of him and his shit family coming from some Jewish slum like a hundred or more years ago.

    They where handpicked due to their looks so that the infiltration would go smooth.
    His father started the Norwegians war campaign with Bosnia and his son is to end the Norwegian saga with using the F 35 to perform a false flag against Russia and THEN, the Norwegian wealth fund becomes a MIC/ NATO war chest and not pensions as meant to.

    There is a long historical trail of the infiltrators in Norway now acting as “Norwegians”, that goes back to WW2 and before. So do not be shocked to see that Norway does a “kamikaze move” towards Russia as soon as the F 35 is operational, Jonas “The Jesuit” Støre is Prime Minister of Norway(to control the theft) and Stoltzenberg is General Secretary of NATO.

    In Norway its getting harder and harder to explain folks that their IQ is dropping like a stone and that is self explaining. So the resistance is like none towards any of the treasonous moves done by the infiltrator lead government. Throw them a new crisis and they shall forget the last one and so it goes.

    If anyone doubts that MIC/ NATO is licking its mouth looking at the ultralarge Norwegian oil fund, one better start reading history. If anyone doubt that the zionist infiltrators in Norway is willing to kill of the entire nation and render it into a “forever war zone”, I would say one is rather naive.

    The infiltrators controls the entire society, peoples perception of reality and the said great benefit for the Norwegians their social security system is granted a right beyond what the book 1984 describes, as the entity that grants money to citizens is given a right to wiretap ANY phone without a warrant, a CIA and Mossad dream. So Norwegians traded away all privacy against a handful of silver coins.

    There is no sign of anything but this scenario as the most likely as long as there is a wealth fund to steal.

    The only way to do that is to dissolve the current system trough a provocation that leads to war.

    When Russia is forced to secure the northern Atlantic for strategic reasons, it will be due to acts of war from Norway, whereas the traitors at the top will go abroad and start “liberating” the nation by spending the wealth fund on war in stead.

    As for the paid US occupation of various European nations, its a great strategy.

    In Norway the population pays for brainwashing through their national TV, and when you pay for such it even works better. Great move Trump. Congrats…

  • vlom2441

    The Empire of Chaos is run by a den of thieves, sociopaths, and psychopaths.

  • verner

    now, if germany said no – ain’t going to pay a penny – does anyone think that moronistan’s (aka usa) troops will pack up and head for home or just for poland (where the idiots apparently have offered the morons a safe heaven). no, wouldn’t think for a second that moronistan would be prepared to desert germany (which is about 1000 times more fun than the boring poland) for home or poland. it might actually be a oment of truth in the situation, is it an occupation or just friendly concern for germany’s best.

    then I doubt pentagon would hazard to put forward a claim like this to italy because there they are certain to get a healthy feck off dunces!

    • Feudalism Victory

      They would get regime changed gladio style but with islamic terrorists killing beer drinking ham eating germans.

      • AlexanderAmproz

        You are right, Gladio is Al Qaida, ISIS, and al Terrorists father !

  • Jens Holm

    Trump is right in this. We can pay more. USA pay too much.

  • goingbrokes

    Be occupied – and pay for it too. What a grand scheme.