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Five Things That Would Make The CIA/CNN Russia Narrative More Believable

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Written by Caitlin Johnstone; Originally appeared at her blog

As we just discussed, some major news stories have recently dropped about what a horrible horrifying menace the Russian Federation is to the world, and as always I have nothing to offer the breathless pundits on CNN and MSNBC but my completely unsatisfied skepticism. My skepticism of the official Russia narrative remains so completely unsatisfied that if mainstream media were my husband I would already be cheating on it with my yoga instructor.

Five Things That Would Make The CIA/CNN Russia Narrative More Believable

I do not believe the establishment Russia narrative. I do not believe that Donald Trump colluded with the Russian government to rig the 2016 election. I do not believe the Russian government did any election rigging for Trump to collude with. This is not because I believe Vladimir Putin is some kind of blueberry-picking girl scout, and it certainly isn’t because I think the Russian government is unwilling or incapable of meddling in the affairs of other nations to some extent when it suits them. It is simply because I am aware that the US intelligence community lies constantly as a matter of policy, and because I understand how the burden of proof works.

At this time, I see no reason to espouse any belief system which embraces as true the assertion that Russia meddled in the 2016 elections in any meaningful way, or that it presents a unique and urgent threat to the world which must be aggressively dealt with. But all the establishment mouthpieces tell me that I must necessarily embrace these assertions as known, irrefutable fact. Here are five things that would have to change in order for that to happen:

1. Proof of a hacking conspiracy to elect Trump.

The first step to getting a heretic like myself aboard the Russia hysteria train would be the existence of publicly available evidence of the claims made about election meddling in 2016, which rises to the level required in a post-Iraq invasion world. So far, that burden of proof for Russian hacking allegations has not come anywhere remotely close to being met.

How much proof would I need to lend my voice to the escalation of tensions between two nuclear superpowers? Mountains. I personally would settle for nothing less than hard proof which can be independently verified by trusted experts like the Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity.

Is that a big ask? Yes. Yes it is. That’s what happens when government institutions completely discredit themselves as they did with the false narratives advanced in the manufacturing of support for the Iraq invasion. You don’t get to butcher a million Iraqis in a war based on lies, turn around a few years later and say “We need new cold war escalations with a nuclear superpower but we can’t prove it because the evidence is secret.” That’s not a thing. Copious amounts of hard, verifiable proof or GTFO. So far we have no evidence besides the confident-sounding assertions of government insiders and their mass media mouthpieces, which is the same as no evidence.

2. Proof that election meddling actually influenced the election in a meaningful way.

Even if Russian hackers did exfiltrate Democratic party emails and give them to WikiLeaks, if it didn’t affect the election, who cares? That’s a single-day, second-page story at best, meriting nothing beyond a “Hmm, interesting, turns out Russia tried and failed to influence the US election,” followed by a shrug and moving on to something that actually matters.

After it has been thoroughly proven that Russia meddled in the elections in a meaningful way, it must then be established that that meddling had an actual impact on the election results.

3. Some reason to believe Russian election meddling was unwarranted and unacceptable.

The US government, by a very wide margin, interferes in the elections of other countries far, far more than any other government on earth does. The US government’s own data shows that it has deliberately meddled in the elections of 81 foreign governments between 1946 and 2000, including Russia in the nineties. This is public knowledge. A former CIA Director cracked jokes about it on Fox News earlier this year.

If I’m going to abandon my skepticism and accept the Gospel According to Maddow, after meaningful, concrete election interference has been clearly established I’m going to need a very convincing reason to believe that it is somehow wrong or improper for a government to attempt to respond in kind to the undisputed single worst offender of this exact offense. It makes no sense for the United States to actively create an environment in which election interference is something that governments do to one another, and then cry like a spanked child when its election is interfered with by one of the very governments whose elections the US recently meddled in.

This is nonsense. America being far and away the worst election meddler on the planet makes it a fair target for election meddling by not just Russia, but every country in the world. It is very obviously moral and acceptable for any government on earth to interfere in America’s elections as long as it remains the world’s worst offender in that area. In order for Russia to be in the wrong if it interfered in America’s elections, some very convincing argument I’ve not yet heard will have to be made to support that case.

4. Proof that the election meddling went beyond simply giving Americans access to information about their government.

If all the Russians did was simply show Americans emails of Democratic Party officials talking to one another and circulate some MSM articles as claimed in the ridiculous Russian troll farm allegations, that’s nothing to get upset about. If anything, Americans should be upset that they had to hear about Democratic Party corruption through the grapevine instead of having light shed on it by the American officials whose job it is to do so. Complaints about election meddling is only valid if that election meddling isn’t comprised of truth and facts.

5. A valid reason to believe escalated tensions between two nuclear superpowers are worthwhile.

After it has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Russia did indeed meddle in the US elections in a meaningful way, and after it has then been proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Russia actually influenced election results in a significant way, and after the case has been clearly made that it was bad and wrong for Russia to do this instead of fair and reasonable, and after it has been clearly proven that the election meddling went beyond simply telling Americans the truth about their government, the question then becomes what, if anything, should be done about it?

If you look at the actions that this administration has taken over the last year and a half, the answer to that question appears to be harsh sanctions, NATO expansionism, selling arms to Ukraine, throwing out diplomats, increasing military presence along Russia’s border, a Nuclear Posture Review which is much more aggressive toward Russia, repeatedly bombing Syria, and just generally creating more and more opportunities for something to go catastrophically wrong with one of the two nations’ aging, outdated nuclear arsenals, setting off a chain of events from which there is no turning back and no surviving.

And the pundits and politicians keep pushing for more and more escalations, at this very moment braying with one voice that Trump must aggressively confront Putin about Mueller’s indictments or withdraw from the peace talks. But is it worth it? Is it worth risking the life of every terrestrial organism to, what? What specifically would be gained that makes increasing the risk of nuclear catastrophe worthwhile? Making sure nobody interferes in America’s fake elections? I’d need to see a very clear and specific case made, with a ‘pros’ and ‘cons’ list and “THE POTENTIAL DEATH OF LITERALLY EVERYTHING” written in big red letters at the top of the ‘cons’ column.

Rallying the world to cut off Russia from the world stage and cripple its economy has been been a goal of the US power establishment since the collapse of the Soviet Union, so there’s no reason to believe that even the people who are making the claims against Russia actually believe them. The goal is crippling Russia to handicap China, and ultimately to shore up global hegemony for the US-centralized empire by preventing the rise of any rival superpowers. The sociopathic alliance of plutocrats and intelligence/defense agencies who control that empire are willing to threaten nuclear confrontation in order to ensure their continued dominance. All of their actions against Russia since 2016 have had everything to do with establishing long-term planetary dominance and nothing whatsoever to do with election meddling.

Those five things would need to happen before I’d be willing to jump aboard the “Russia! Russia!” train. Until then I’ll just keep pointing to the total lack of evidence and how very, very far the CIA/CNN Russia narrative is from credibility.

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Promitheas Apollonious

so many words to say nothing really beside what is common knowledge among thinking humans. Who gives a flying f*ck what any one believe, since none of us has the power or is in position to change anything of what is happening between, the NWO group and the anti-NWO groups on the level of governments?

Repeating over and over the same old stories never changed anything or ever will. And what you or me believe at the end of the day, is completely irrelevant as we are powerless to do anything to change the bigger picture. As long humans are incapable, of communicating between them and present a solid international front each from their own territories we are just observers with no voice, as to what is happening. Except maybe in a very small scale where we are residents.

The most moronic act any one can do is discuss if the russians rig the elections in USA or any where else when it is widely known to all who search it with out taking sides, that has never been a none rigged election, in west since the beginning of their time. Your choices are one of two morons, both belonging to the same system and the same master. So who gets elected is irrelevant since who ever does serve the same people who finance them and put them there to give you an illusion of choice.

If you have not understood this, then writing all you have, serve what purpose exactly, beside you blowing some steam. Humans should get organized among them outside politicians and followers and get ready for the shit hitting the fan, all over.


Chin up princess.

There are lots of things going on that you know nothing about. I tried to get the information to you last year, but your rude little sidekick would not even take my call. (plus the fact that you have banned me every time I say things to you that you did not want to hear, even though they are true). ,

A lot of information was released over the last nine months and you missed all of it. Now it is too late to even bother trying to get you up to speed.

Make some popcorn and sit back. Enjoy the show.

Promitheas Apollonious

been a retard and one with psychological problems it is obvious with you. you get me up to speed… that is a joke. I dont know who you think you are, or who you are and try to get me up to speed, on what moron?

What sidekick? I dont have side kicks, you moronic american idiot. Trying to pretend you know me and we are familiar, is why I humor you out of curiosity, now kindly go fuck yourself and stop stalking me.


With pleasure you vicious little man. Your sidekick? That is the one that you tried to pass off as a Mockingjay. Hilarious really.

I will put this up as a general warning to other people. This identity is a sock puppet for another equally stupid one.

Now I will sit back and laugh at you.

Think of me at Christmas when one even as stupid as you will have noticed that things have changed.

Kell McBanned

A picture says more than a thousand words sometimes.
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Brother Thomas

Exactly right. The goals of Russiagate and Russiaphobia are so transparent – the MIC, Hillary, the lost election and the DNC, the Deep State & undermining Trump, the neocons and their Project for a New American Century and Russia not falling in line, Zionist and frustrated regime change in Syria, etc. etc.

A mountain of hard evidence needs to be presented to balance the mountain of past false flags, swamps of lies, and infestation of vested interests.


Generally don’t subscribe to blogs but with Caitlin’s I do. Plain talking, succinct and for some strange reason a woman who cusses always gets my attention.

My scepticism of the MSM has gone beyond her response at the end of #1. Basically if they say it, it’s not true.

So buying in to the idea that there is nothing we can do is capitulation clear and simple. The bottom line is those holding the strings of power are a tiny minority. Without us slaves at their beck and call they are feeble. Oh it’s daunting, here is an example of how it crumbles.

If everyone stopped feeding their personal addictions. If everyone quit buying nonfood food like items. If sporting events ceased to be anything anyone paid any attention to. If everyone lived within their means thus eliminating debt. If everyone demanded accountability for the money taxpayers contribute to government. If everyone quit being impressed by groups like; royalty, papacy, clergy, lawyers, doctors, advertisers and news readers who use a combination of fancy clothing, smooth sounding scripts and arrogance to demand our loyalty. If everyone quit TV, magazines and newspapers.

Yeah, yeah, I know if. But all these things are trends and it does not take all the people to start a revolution. Once a minority critical mass is reached the others follow the trend.

The critical question to me is what is getting better? The power and income of the elite! Essentially everything else has been in continuous decline. We are all facing the same fate as the Palestinians and the sooner we address that the better.

Garry Compton

Mueller uses that same scam as he did with 9-11 cover-up .If Russia wasn’t in on a little part of the NWO then the 9-11 cover they know about – would have been shown by now. All the leaders East and West are playing with the 2 wild Joker cards – and they use them when it fits there agenda. The people of the east and west are being put in the closet – we’re not allowed to know anything about those secret bases, energy dependent inventions, Space technology that might revolutionize the Planet, Alien intentions, past civilizations, scientific health care, hell –Planet X could be looking at us like the Moon and we won’t be able to adjust for it – because NASA can’t say where it is. Nasa couldn’t find its ass in a bathroom because they are a Bogus Agency . The Federal Reserve keeps those presses running – night and day while thy claim that they have to look out for inflation – LOL the whole World is SNAFU – just the way the Cabal – likes it.

R PLobo

The US has elections?

Terra Cotta Woolpuller

No only just Praetorian and Pro Consul appointments!

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