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First Results Of Russian Vote On Historic Amendments: Turnout Is About 63%. ‘YES’ – Over 70%

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First Results Of Russian Vote On Historic Amendments: Turnout Is About 63%. 'YES' - Over 70%

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Over 70% of Russian voters have backed historic constitutional changes that strengthen the country’s governance system, pave the way for extending President Vladimir Putin’s presidency until 2036 and secure rights of the conservative majority of the Russian society, according to the Russian election commission’s preliminary results released July 1 afternoon.

As of 18:27 CEST, the available data shows the turnout of 63.32% with 70.81% of voters supporting the amendments.

The hardcore pro-Western part of the Russian opposition and affiliated organizations tried to stage provocations in order to delegitimize the vote, but failed to do so en mass. So, they focused their efforts in the media sphere. They already claimed that they had received hundreds of complaints of violations, including people voting more than once and claims employers are putting pressure on staff to cast ballots. These rumors are widely covered in Western mainstream media outlets that are also very unhappy with the Russian move to secure its sovereign constitution and way of life through the democratic referendum.

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First Results Of Russian Vote On Historic Amendments: Turnout Is About 63%. 'YES' - Over 70%

Main Cathedral of the Russian Armed Forces

Russia is holding a national voting on amendments to its Constitution. Last Thursday kicked off one week in which Russians are asked to cast their votes on changes to the document. The formal date is July 1, but the polling stations were opened as early as June 25 in order to avoid too high turnout due to the so-called pandemic.

Vladimir Putin announced a set of amendments to the Constitution in his annual address to the Federal Assembly on January 15. The same day he ordered to form a working group to draft these amendments. The group was composed of 75 politicians, legislators, scholars and public figures and it submitted the proposals that formed the basis of the new Constitution. On March 11, the State Duma adopted the draft amendments to the Constitution in the third reading. On the same day, they were approved by the Federation Council.

The referendum was originally scheduled for April 22. The date coincided with Vladimir Lenin’s 150th birthday. It was postponed due to the COVID-19 pandemic. The draft amendments to the Constitution were submitted to a referendum in accordance with article 2 of the Law on Amendments to the Constitution adopted on March 16, 2020. Voters are given a yes-or-no vote on the full text of the new Constitution.

After Putin proposed constitutional changes, the amendments sparked significant debate both inside the country and beyond its borders. The proposed amendments to the Constitution affect various spheres.

The amendments, which can be described as ideological, received the great public response. According to a sociological study, the most important among them for Russians was the amendment to “on the protection of historical truth”:

“The Russian Federation honors the memory of the Fatherland defenders and protects the historical truth. Belittling the significance of the feat of the people in the defense of the Fatherland is not allowed.”

This amendment is extremely relevant in Russian society. This is due to various external factors. First of all, Russia’s neighboring states such as Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and Poland issue resolutions condemning Russia’s position in the Second World War. This is accompanied by the demolition of the monuments to Soviet heroes in large cities, what causes great indignation among Russians and arouses great controversy at the international level.

Moreover, this amendment is gaining popularity due to the ongoing unrest in the West. In the USA protesters demolish monuments to prominent historical figures who formed the American identity – Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Jefferson, and so on. The Russian government tries to prevent this in its own country, believing that the Empire collapses when it loses its ideology. Today, the strengthening of Russia as independent conservative ideological center may contribute to the further strengthening of the Russian position on the international arena.

First Results Of Russian Vote On Historic Amendments: Turnout Is About 63%. 'YES' - Over 70%

Russian servicewomen march during the Victory Day parade. They were among 14,000 troops from 13 countries who took part in the event. Soldiers taking part had been tested and placed in quarantine ahead of the parade.

If this amendment is primarily of concern to the countries of Eastern Europe and has received little coverage in the Western media, the following amendment to the Russian Constitution has aroused great interest in Western Europe and the United States.

The proposals to amend the Article 72 of the Constitution gained wide resonance in the West.  The article says (the changes are in bold):

“In the joint jurisdiction of the Russian Federation and subjects of the Russian Federation are:

… the protection of family, motherhood, fatherhood and childhood; the protection of the institution of marriage as the union of a man and a woman; the creation of conditions for worthy education of children in the family, as well as for adult children responsibilities to care for their parents…”

Despite the fact that today same-sex marriages are not recognized in Russia, if the amendment is approved by a vote, the marriage between members of the LGBT community will be excluded at the level of the Constitution. Currently, there are no special laws prohibiting same-sex relationships or gender reassignment surgeries in Russia. At the same time, since 2013, there is a Federal law prohibiting the promotion of homosexuality among minors, which criminalizes public manifestations of non-traditional sexual orientations.

Conservative views on homosexuality are widespread in Russia, and recent polls show that most Russians are opposed to accepting homosexuality in their society. In particular, intolerance of homosexuality is present in regions with persisting traditional way of life, such as Chechnya or Dagestan.

Covering the proposal to introduce this amendment to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, The New York Times wrote in March:

“President Vladimir V. Putin has proposed a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage in what political analysts suggest is an effort to raise turnout for a constitutional referendum that could keep him in power but has so far stirred little enthusiasm among Russians.”

The Guardian in the article «Putin submits plans for constitutional ban on same-sex marriage» claimed that “[t]he move, announced by Putin in January, was initially seen as a way for him to hold on to power after 2024, when as things stand he will no longer be able to serve as president because of term limits.

Moreover, a flag of the LGBT community was displayed on the buildings of the US Embassy in Moscow to protest the proposed amendments on the first day of the national voting. The US move was followed by embassies of Canada and the UK. This is a concerted political action in direct contravention of Russian law on responsibility for propaganda of non-traditional sexual relations among minors.

The amendment to the Constitution excluding the possibility of same-sex marriage does not correspond to the newly imposed neo-liberal values labeled as the Wester-rooted. At the same time, believing its own values to be the only correct and universal, the collective West imposes them in various regions of the world, including in Russia. The promotion of liberal values is certainly necessary for the West to strengthen its world domination, but this often leads to negative consequences.

The reaction of the West to the amendment to article 72 primarily emphasizes that the introduction of changes to the legislation regarding LGBT communities serves as a distraction for the population, which will allow Vladimir Putin to remain in power after the end of his presidential mandate in 2024. Also, the Western community itself is much more concerned about the amendments to reset Putin’s terms than about the well-being of homosexuals in Russia.

By its ideological changes, Russia confirms the unacceptability of Western ideology for its society, while also making important changes to the country’s administrative apparatus itself, which will allow it to be strengthened.

Given that the West in general has a negative attitude to the figure of Vladimir Putin, primarily because of his success in governing the country and in strengthening Russia, the amendment to reset the terms of his rule is particularly frowned upon. Paragraph 3 of Article 82 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation states:

“The same person may not hold the office of President of the Russian Federation for more than two consecutive terms.”

In this wording, it is proposed to remove the word “consecutive”, and to extend the effect of this amendment only to the current President of Russia, Vladimir Putin. This allows resetting the terms of Vladimir Putin’s presidency, and gives him the opportunity to run for the presidency in 2024.

Political analyst Nathaniel Reynolds wrote in a paper for the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace:

“Putin’s use of more than 200 amendments was a “stunning trick” to mask the real purpose of the constitutional vote — allowing him to remain in office. It was a shocking exercise in political deception, even to the many regime insiders left in the dark.” Reynolds also noted: “A younger Putin recognized the dangers of such a precedent. He told a journalist in 2005 that if leaders change the constitution for their own purposes, there will be nothing left of the state.”

Moreover, Western media reproach that the attention of the population is not particularly focused on this key amendment. The Russian authorities are conducting a large advertising campaign of other amendments, primarily socially conservative ones such as protection of historical truth or a ban on dual citizenship for government employees. These principles, designed to unite Russians, are at the heart of the system of conservative Patriotic values of the head of the Russian state.

During his presidency, Vladimir Putin brought Russia to the international arena and significantly strengthened its position as a regional power center. Further strengthening of the country is unacceptable for the West that provokes strong criticism of this amendment. However, the abolition of the presidential term limit only increases the level of democracy in the country because people have a chance to vote for an actual president as many times as they want. The President can only be chosen through democratic elections, and allowing Putin to run in 2024 does not guarantee his victory. Moreover, most likely, the amendment to reset the time frame allows to stabilize the situation in the country for the next few years. If it is not accepted now, then a tough power struggle in Russia will begin today which will significantly destabilize the country.

On June 18, the Venice Commission criticized some amendments to the Russian Constitution initiated by Vladimir Putin.

The European Commission for Democracy through Law – better known as the Venice Commission as it meets in Venice – is the Council of Europe’s advisory body on constitutional matters. It involves all countries that are members of the Council of Europe, including Russia, and some countries outside this organization. Its role is to analyze the laws and draft legal advices to its member states.

First Results Of Russian Vote On Historic Amendments: Turnout Is About 63%. 'YES' - Over 70%

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European experts expressed concern that the new Constitution proposes to include the possibility of dismissal by the Federation Council of judges of the constitutional court on the proposal of the President.

‘’The proposed innovations make the constitutional court more vulnerable to political pressure, since the powers of judges can be terminated on the proposal of the President,’’ experts say.

European experts also recommended the proposed amendment to Article 79 to be changed or completely deleted. It proposes to affirm the right not to execute “decisions of interstate bodies adopted on the basis of provisions of international treaties of the Russian Federation in their interpretation contradicting the Constitution of the Russian Federation”.

This amendment provides for the possibility of not complying with the decisions of international courts, including the European court of human rights. Experts of the Venice Commission in their conclusion point out that by joining the Council of Europe and ratifying the Convention on human rights, Russia is obliged to comply with the decisions of the European court of human rights, and with article 46 of the Convention, which indicates that the execution of court decisions is mandatory.

On June 25, the representative of the European Commission Peter Stano made a statement that the amendment on the priority of the Russian Constitution over international law violated the international obligations of the Russian Federation.

In response to criticism from Europe, the Chairman of the Committee on International Affairs of Russian State Duma, Leonid Slutskiy, emphasized that this practice is widely used by countries, including members of Europe, and the amendment does not cancel Russia’s international obligations.

We have consistently explained and continue to explain to our European partners: the amendments to Article 79 do not nullify the international obligations of the Russian Federation, Russia has fulfilled them and will continue to do so. It is an issue of establishing the primacy of the Constitution, which fully complies with foreign experience. For example, there is much stricter primacy of national legislation over international legislation in European states like the UK and Germany, not speaking about the United States,”

Russia in its foreign policy has always defended the rule of international law in the world system. This international law should be based on consensus, and first of all should be represented by international institutions such as the UN. Today, Russia recognizes that international law is not more presented by an international agreement but by American legislation that applies anywhere in the world. The adoption of the amendment on the supremacy of the Russian Constitution over international law strengthens the country’s position and underlines its frustration with the current destruction of the entire world system.

According to social research, the most important for Russians is the amendment on the protection of the country’s sovereignty at the constitutional level. This amendment suggested to Article 67 is one of the most criticized abroad:

 “The Russian Federation ensures the protection of its sovereignty and territorial integrity. Actions (with the exception of delimitation, demarcation, redemarkation of the state border of the Russian Federation with neighboring States) aimed at alienating part of the territory of the Russian Federation, as well as calls for such actions, are not allowed.”

This amendment to the Constitution regarding the territorial integrity of the country caused a large condemnation by the United States.

Krista Wiegand, American expert on territorial disputes of the Center for Global Security Studies in Tennessee, claimed that “Russia does not want to play by international rules” and this is dangerous for Japan and Ukraine.

This statement is completely unjustified.

According to the Soviet-Japanese Declaration of 1956, ending the state of war between the countries, the USSR agreed to transfer the Habomai and Shikotan Islands to Japan on the condition that the actual transfer would be made after the conclusion of a Peace Treaty. Moscow’s position is that the southern Kuril Islands became part of the USSR, which Russia became the legal successor to, are an integral part of the territory of the Russian Federation legally based on the results of World War II and enshrined in the UN Charter, and Russian sovereignty over them, which has the appropriate international legal confirmation, is not subject to doubt. Today, it is not Russia that threatens Japan, but the opposite, as Japan claims “its northern territories” to be under Russian occupation.

A similar situation has developed on the Eastern borders of Russia. Since the accession of the Crimea to Russia is a fait accompli, Ukraine has no choice but to declare annexation and try to claim de facto Russian territories.

The amendment suggested to article 67 does not threaten any other state. First of all this amendment prevents separatism inside Russia.

First Results Of Russian Vote On Historic Amendments: Turnout Is About 63%. 'YES' - Over 70%

The Guard of Honor of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army take part in the military parade marking the 75th anniversary of the victory in the Great Patriotic War on Red Square in Moscow, Russia, June 24, 2020.

The creation of the threatening image of Russia is beneficial for the Democratic American establishment. At the same time, countries with territorial disputes with the Russian Federation reacted with more restraint.

Japanese government Secretary General Yoshihide Suga noted that changes to the Constitution are an internal matter for Russia. Political expert Ikuro Nakamura noted that the Japanese government believes that the changes to the Constitution are aimed at increasing Patriotic consciousness in Russian society.

Former advisor to the Greek prime minister for co-operation with the Russian Federation and Eastern Europe, Dimitrios Velanis, said:

“Russia has many times throughout its history experienced an attack or an attempt by other powers to occupy its territory. It was in almost all wars. From all these wars Russia emerged victorious and lost none of its territories. This year marks the 75th anniversary of the Great Victory.”

Furthermore, the French Foreign Ministry proclaimed through its representative that “the constitutional change is a sovereign decision of the Russian Federation, which must fully comply with international obligations”.

It would be difficult to imagine the opposite reaction of the West to the proposed amendments to the Russian Constitution. They strengthen the country both insight and in the international arena, which causes fear in Western countries.

In response to criticism of the package of amendments to the Constitution, Chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee at the Federation Council Konstantin Kosachev said:

“The West’s reaction to public discussions of amendments to the Russian Constitution is taking the form of an aggressive campaign bordering on interference in the country’s domestic affairs. The reaction of what can be described as ‘Collective West’ is taking the form of a hostile and aggressive campaign against Russia, which is bordering on interference in our domestic affairs.”

At the same time, Russian experts say that they expected a larger company from the West, and today’s criticism was much weaker than it could have been. Indeed, the US has demonstrated that it could lead strong anti-Russian companies, for example, by accusing it of interfering in the election of President Trump. The UK also conducted a strong informational campaign, which was called the “Skripal Case”. Today, Russia is faced with a choice, and its society is really experiencing great differences regarding the future development of the country. This moment is most favorable for external intervention and, if the West had the opportunity, it would be able to significantly influence the development of Russia in a way that would be beneficial to it. However, today the influence from outside is insignificant, which is primarily due to the weakness in the Western countries themselves. The crisis after the coronavirus epidemic, followed by large-scale protests in all countries do not leave the power for weakened world leaders. In addition, on a more global scale, while still maintaining the role of world hegemon, the US has never been so weak in relation to developing new centers, and it seems that it can no longer control the situation in various world regions, including Russia.

The amendments to the Russian Constitution demonstrate that the current Russian leadership has tried to pass the period of reconstruction after the crisis of the 1990s and the period of the rise of the 2000s. The Constitution adopted in Russia in 1993 was essentially an ideal document that would allow Russia to reconcile with the market system world. It was mostly designed to satisfy interests of Western puppeteers of the new post-Soviet Russian ‘democratic’ elites. Russia was as an independent state and an international actor was weak in 1991. 30 years later, a stronger Russia is embarking on its own path of development, different from the Western one. And the gap between the Western way and the Russian one seems to be widening. Therefore, a chance exists that in the bright multicolored future there will be place not only for the neo-liberal minorities-ruled West and the radically-conservative Islamic East, but also for a balanced center in Eurasia.

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verner

we might soon see a regime change opertion in russia a la venzuela and navalny can take the role of guaido and will be received in the white house and hailed the new president of russia, now that putin has defied the west a quick change over in kreml. the outcome is giving the criminal perpetrators in the white house the cold turkey.

JIMI JAMES

Kweer/nwo are too weak,no matter who funds them or how much fake gold bars europe have!

verner

the west and in particular the white house has been in tears ever since putin put an end to the yankee-twats attempt to take over the entire commodity riches of russia that the yankee-twats had planned and were executing during the Jeltsin years. what a disappointment, all that oil, all that gold, diamonds, nickel and what have you not in the hands of the disunited states of A’s corporations. in the eyes of the disjointed states of A, putin should dangle from a lamppost and not continue to make everything the yankee-twats attempt turn to dust.

JIMI JAMES

There are some in moscow that’s for sure,their corona policing escalated russian rates,before in effect russia was doping as good as Australia,well that is another concern,not for the west but for russians,time will tell if putin will get enough backing to clean out the nefarious khazar leftovers there,otherwise he is doing reasonable well,considering,The oil markets are controlled by russia now!
Of course Trump’s a saner leader than biden (period) why dump usa now?
That would only make sense,if biden/nwo were in,drown the fkrs with russian oil?

AM Hants

It is easy to see why. Plus, do believe that the US and UK Embassies hanging out the Rainbow Flags, did not go down well with the Russians.

M.A. Lamett

Putin being the greatest leader of the century is pure state propaganda. Many of the Russian state sponsored media is propagating this myth. On contrary I think that Putin is just a useful facilitator in the hands of the oligarchic clan. That is why Putin has lost most of his popular support and his real popularity percentage is in the mid 50s. It came way down from high 80s a few years back.

Black Waters

Except that USA doesn’t have such influence over Russia, and it’s even smaller the probability of this knowing that most russians are aware of what the U.S did to Ukraine in 2014, they won’t allow this scenery in Russia.

AM Hants

They have been trying that for the past 20 years, including a few assassination attempts thrown in.

M.A. Lamett

I think this is a bit far-fetched. Yes, Soros type globalist vermins would love t o have a regime change. Navalny has no popular support. He is a charlatan as much as the puppet Guaido is. On top of that, Russia is experienced in Hybrid war tactics like color revolutions. Russia successfully deploys counter measures like organized youth, should a mass demonstration take place. It worked so far. So, Nuland won’t be able to distribute cookies like she did in Ukraine at the Maidan. The real issue with Russia is that it is run by the blood-sucking oligarchy since Yeltsin and no one seems to know what to do against it. For one, Putin was highly ineffective against them, thus I believe he is a rubber stamp president, even though the Russian propaganda is highly effective to paint him as a hero and protector of Russian people.

JIMI JAMES

Great news,indeed Russia will come out stronger from this nazio bio weapon virus,than the nwo,
Security will tighten it’s grip and there will be far less chance of any regime change or false flags,
Indefinetaly Russia stocks up and they do infact control the worlds #1 true wealth in so much oil + gas markets which is far more significant than any kweer apple + co tax dodging scamdemic fkfests as them other zombie corporations being exposed factually 6-10% of their true worth,God Bless Russia!

Ilya

meh – direct democracy is still at the power of the elite. So this means Russia is fortunate with a Putin, but give it some time, and all this can be rolled back, with the citizenry having no direct legal right to contradict changes, unless granted such power. But good for now! :)

M.A. Lamett

Russia is far from democracy. Better described, it is an oligarchic capitalist system. This term is used by one of the prominent Russian political scientists (don’t remember his name). Thus Mr. Putin’s duty is to protect the interest of the oligarchic clan which is composed of about 80% zionist Jews. Mr. Putin is simply the rubber stamp president.
Disclaimer: No insult or disrespect intended. I believe many Russians would agree with this opinion.

Harry Smith

I am Russian and I don’t agree with your opinion. Bet my old socks you don’t know what are the amendments about.

M.A. Lamett

Do you have solid data to prove your point of view? For a fact I know that most of the natural resources of Russia are run fully or partially by the Russian oligarchy. Putin’s concessions to these bloodsucking oligarchs made him lose popular support in Russia. Ordinary people in Russia are mostly poor and try to make the ends meet every month. Putin’s retirement plan was highly unpopular and also the fact that he has given many former Jewish citizens a pension whether they live in Russia or not. Putin is trying to juggle in between the neo-liberal globalist elites who almost single-handedly run the finance and the banks and the more conservative and somewhat nationalist elitist clan. As I said Russia is a very different beast and can not be compared to Europe. Throughout the history, Russia was ruled mostly by despots, some really vicious like Ivan the Terrible, some progressive like Peter the Great., some revolutionary like the Bolsheviks. Today’s Russia is just a reflection of this historical genome.

Trap Is Not Gay

Give up, shill
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Tudor Miron

You seem to know very little yet you try to deceive others. Or is it the case of “deliberate ignorance?”

JIMI JAMES

The majority are orthodoxy wealth,incest,begone cia troll,you and your fake mates only vile russians are your ex pat buddie in kiev,Russian pay their taxes unlike your kweer masters,and indeed you very much underestimated more prudent adults here whom are not into incest cias!

AM Hants

Think you mistake Russia for the US.

Styx

At long last I found an article which explains in straightforward terms what People of Russia are voting for today:

https://consortiumnews.com/2020/06/30/russians-vote-on-amendments-to-the-constitution/

The bottom line is:

NYT Editorial Board would rather commit mass suicide than publish anything remotely factual or God forbid truthful about the event.

AM Hants

Cheers. I do like Consortium News. Have only read two articles, the first the Daily Mail. For pure comedy value as they cannot understand why the people of Russia would not embrace Western values. Think RT was the only other article I saw, but, have not spent much time on the sites.

Tommy Jensen

Have you seen how Kremlin’s dirty finance money have tried to destroy City of London and undermine British democracy?? https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/may/25/how-britain-let-russia-hide-its-dirty-money

AM Hants

Guardian??????????
So loyal to Integrity Initiative.

If you go to South Kensingto , w
You wi find more Russian exiles living there then You would find Russians in Moscow. Now where do dodgy exiled Russians who turn up in the UK do with their petty cash?

Styx

LOL, any other scary-fairy-tales from the most blatantly crypto-fascist publication in UK fit only for 3-4 year olds ?

AM Hants

I like Natalie Baldwin and enjoyed the article. There was an article over on Stalker Zone, I think it was a musician being interviewed by German media. It was interesting what he was saying about wanting President Putin to stay in power. Acknowledging the fact that there is a war going on and you don’t change your leader, without good reason, whilst in da gerous water.. Ade perfect sense.

Styx

To me this was the most interesting part of the article:

On March 10, a further development garnered even more attention when parliamentarian Valentina Tereshkova, the first Soviet woman in space, proposed that the “clock be reset to zero” on presidential terms at 2024. That would mean that Putin would be able to run again in 2024 and serve what would be the new constitutional limit of two total terms.

This suggestion seemed to throw the parliament into confusion and Putin subsequently made an unscheduled appearance at the Duma to address the issue. He then said that resetting the clock on presidential terms was possible, but would have to be approved by both the Constitutional Court and the Russian people when they voted. The Constitutional Court subsequently ruled that this move was acceptable.

And this constitutional change is the most important one methinks:

Russia currently has a minimum wage but this will codify into the constitution that the minimum wage must be indexed to reflect the current minimum cost of living; in other words, it cannot be below the recognized poverty line.

AM Hants

There was another article, again I believe it was on Stalker Zone, a few weeks ago. It related to old Soviet property in the nations of the neighbours and the reason why Russia was more than happy to pay the bill for the Soviet Union. It was interesting. Will find the link tomorrow, should it interest you.

cechas vodobenikov

loshiziny—ur stupid

cechas vodobenikov

by all objective measures u r more of a police state oligarchy than any nation except a few African nations

shylockracy

As a world power Russia still needs to prove it is an alternative to the Ziocorporate terrorist world oder and not just another, more “sovereignty”-leaning, version of it. If Russia or China were a true socialist and/or sovereigntist world leaders, they’d have to share some of their know-how and tech prowess to at least assist aligned nations like Cuba, Venezuela or Iran on developing necessary military-technological capacities. Although a different, actually fair system of exchange for less developed nations’ natural resources would be needed, something better than central bankster funny money plunder.

Ivan Freely

Regarding military-technological capacities, both China and Russia cannot due to UN sanctions which they agreed to in the past. They must wait until either the sanctions have been lifted by vote or by preset expiration date.

occupybacon

At least they got their food stamps.

Harry Smith

Also we get a pair of free gloves, mask and pen. ROFL.
But gloves, mask and pen were for free at voting. Serious.

occupybacon

Man, but is the foodstamp story true or bs?

Harry Smith

Of course it’s bs. There are not foodstamps in Russia, so it is impossible for a person to get some. Since USSR there is a tradition to open buffets at voting sites but they always were for money. No free food. And I didn’t observed such buffets for last 10 years or more. If anybody would gave free food for voters it was a big scandal, first. And we got some videos from opposition, that’s for sure.

occupybacon

What’s in the videos?

Harry Smith

Pardon me for weak English. I wanted to say if there was a free food for voters, then opposition must have the video. Just try to understand: before the voting there were some polls that showed about 70% of population for the amendments. With such numbers Putin is the one of the most interested in fair voting. So if there is no video about foodstamps then there were no foodstamps.
Look. Here is the statement of the Golos (voice) organization which is funded by State Dept of USA and they are “monitoring” the voting process (in Russian Telegram channels there were couple of videos how those from Golos are fabricating videos about current voting). If there were foodstamps, those fags from Golos would have videos about it for sure.
The statement is in English so you can freely read it:
https://www.golosinfo.org/en/articles/144476

occupybacon

Look, I’m not policing the Russia here, this small bribing is happening in most of the 2nd and 3rd world countries, however the bribes are not given in front of the ballot boxes where all the journalists and international observers are, but at the job by showing the prove to the boss that you voted, they stick a small stamp on the back of your ID and most poor people go to vote just for that.

Harry Smith

Not quite. It’s really something from 3d country experience. In our county it was a lottery and part of lottery bills were distributed within the companies in the county. You had to put the lottery bill in the special box near the bulletin box. These lotteries were distributed via HR depts of every big firm in our county. The catch was that every firm had it’s personal QR code so county authorities could calculate how many employees of each firm voted. But no one ever said how I have to vote. I know about QR because our HR fucked up and didn’t said we have to put lottery bills we got at work and not those which were distributed at the voting sites. BTW, no penalties for the firms with low number of voters. It is just for statistics. County authorities are very dependent on the enterprises working in their jurisdiction.
PS Women from voting site said I can win a bicycle which costs around 500 usd, maybe because I came to vote in my working clothes after I cut grass at my land. :)

occupybacon

I was curious how you guys get stimulated to go to vote not what you vote cause that was obvious. From my point of view it’s a not so subtle way to project fear over you which is worse than a bribe. If they distributed those lotery tickets only at the voting sites it was ok but involving the working places into this was a clear message. You know like in the army.

Harry Smith

Come on bacon! They just simplified their statistical calculations. They have access to the voters lists so they can easy find who voted and who not. When you get the voting bulletin you put your signature next to your name in the list.
I think it was designed to make kinda competition between firms in our county. Its like buying t-short of your favorite soccer team.
Because of mistake of HR our firm is at the last place by number of participants and my colleagues are quite angry on our HR because we were not informed to use lottery tickets distributed at our firm. It’s kinda insulting when you are in the end of the chart. :)
BTW, nobody told us how to vote. I know who of my colleagues voted against amendments because they openly tried to convince me to vote same way. Nobody fears to say their opinion.

occupybacon

Of course they can verify us everywhere if we go to vote or not, but involving the companies into this process is meant to send a message. If they said that there will be ‘no penalties’ the message is even more clear as Russian politicians are known for making ‘subtle’ treats. I suspect that Russian people if don’t have some though leaders that make treats they don’t feel that’s Russian enough. And since Putin already has 70% or so those who go to the pool to vote gainst they are just validating him. Btw isn’t the next president limuted to only 2 mandates? If so that’s for the reason that whenever a president stays in power more than 2 mandates become strong enough to marginalize(assasinate in your case) his relevant oponents, leting a few clowns that prove he’s the only credible leader. Dictators always find ways to be lived by the poor masses.

Harry Smith

Look. Our mayor asked people to vote just to show “good statistics” for our county in the region. He could not ask personally every inhabitant. So he asked business to help him and find the way. It’s our internal Russian issues because our authorities are kinda fixed on statistics. We are quite small community where everybody knows almost everyone. No mayor or business could even imagine to threat population to vote “pro”. Maybe in big cities or corporations but not in our case.
As for dictatorship, if you will google the classical description of it, you will find that USA is much more dictatorial then Russia.

occupybacon

Look, there are many countries with open dictatorships that are allies with the West so I’m not judging Russia for being that. But the idea is simple, Putin have already 70% but for any president that is already in power, the hardest part is to motivate his simps to get out to vote. Example that comes in my mind now is Trump triggering BLM and Antifa on twitter to keep them raging so the whites have a reason to get their asses out to vote. That’s fearmongering.

So Putin used another method, to get your bosses involved to get your asses out to vote, that’s fear mongering too but more centralized.

Harry Smith

Don’t think Putin even knows about our county. :)
But I do agree with you that modern democracy is a staged entertainment for ordinary people. And main with purpose of the entertainment is acceptance by ordinary people the government they have.
As you opinion about Russia is dictatorship – it depends of point of view. If we take classic definition of dictatorship then Russia is not and USA is dictatorship because in USA minorities dictate their will to the majority. If we take the liberal interpretation of dictatorship which names dictator everyone who doesn’t share neoliberal values, then Russia is dictatorship and USA is not.

occupybacon

Russia is not a dictatorship and neither a democracy, however the minorities rule Russia too, just not such vocaly like in US. From 100 billionaires in Moscow, I don’t know if there are 4 ethnic Russians.

Harry Smith

It’s not about billionaires but black, LGBTQR, feminists etc

occupybacon

So you think America is not rulled by a veey few rich but by LGBTQR? That’s what they told you to let them plunder all your natural resources? :P

Harry Smith

It’s not about ruling but dictating the will. Every country in the world is ruled by a small group of relatively rich people. But democratic principles says that will of the majority must be dominant and rulers must take in consideration this will. In USA they are pissing on opinion of majority.

occupybacon

There is no country where majority rules, if they are not enough educated like the Swiss are, they would vote their minimum wage to the sky :)

AM Hants

In the US true, together with human faeces lining the streets. In Russia, they have neither problem.

occupybacon

Damn feces. Damn US.

AM Hants

That is so US, not Russian.

occupybacon

How do you know?

AM Hants

Because US use food stamps, unlike Russia, who do not.

occupybacon

EU also use them.

AM Hants

So? You do know Russia is not in the EU do you not?

occupybacon

God forbid, Russia is the largest shithole on the planet.

AM Hants

You getting Russia muddled with San Francisco and the US again?

occupybacon

Yeah, it needs 4-5 average Russian families revenue to pay a rent in San Francisco.

AM Hants

So? Why would they wish for a bedsit in San Francisco, where the streets are lined with faeces, when they can easily purchase somewhere superior and where the streets are clean? Plus, have you factored the commute from Russia to LA?

Compare the quality of life, including free healthcare and free University education, when comparing the US with Russia. Including GM free food.

occupybacon

Those free stuff are low quality bs. America has feces on the streets because it’s big enough to have gettoes which also Russia has. You are comparing the worst of America to the best of Russia, the same loser aproach Soviets had, it’s like comparing your kitchen to my toilet.

AM Hants

Best of Russia?
Free healthcare, for everybody, not, just the few.
Free education, to University level, for all of Russia, not the few.
GM free food – home grown in Russia, which after catering for Russian citizens ends up being exported.

San Francisco, is not the city in America, now is it? What is the average cost of a 3 bedroom semi or an apartment in San Francisco, where the streets are lined with human faeces?
Why can Russia afford Street Cleaners, but, San Francisco can’t?

occupybacon

So you do believe every street from San Francisco is filled with human feces.

AM Hants

I believe San Francisco has a massive problem with the human faeces lining the streets.

Apart from that I have no interest in San Francisco.

occupybacon

And also anything that is free is good, free healthcare is as good as paid healthcare.

Lone Ranger

Not really.
Russia doesnt have getthoes.
Nor 27 tent cities across the country like the U.S. does.

occupybacon

Indeed they don’t have gettos, they are a getto

Lone Ranger

Wishful thinking…

occupybacon

Russia and the ex communist blick is the largest getto on earth.

Lone Ranger

Nope.
That would be the U.S. and India.
Eastern Europe is fine, except for Banderistan…

occupybacon

Sure buddy.

Lone Ranger

Indeed.

Lone Ranger

Only shows how disconnected the cost of living is in most bigger cities in the U.S.
Also explaines why tent cities and the number of homeless people are skyrocketing in the U.S.
You have seen nothing yet, the worst is yet to come…

occupybacon

I’d live in a tent in California instead of a communist building in Siberia.

Lone Ranger

How can a building be communist?
I dont.
Most Americans fleeing commiefornia anyways.
It seems they dont share your views…

occupybacon

Yeah, it’s the greatest exodus America have seen, millions of Californians are living big cities to go to the beach, the highways look like parking lots.

There are no commynist buuldings you say? You must be living under a rock, but what can be expected from a USSR apologist that believes Russia has secret bases in Cuba but Dragon X is a conspiracy. There are medics that are paid to do that, not me.

Lone Ranger

Millions have left commiefornia.
What you see on the roads are mostly illegal aliens and cartel members :)
Im not an USSR apologist.
Im only stating facts.
Those bases arent secret, U.S. knows they are there.
Thats why Russian intel ships and guided missile cruisers docking there, once a month.:)
Where did I say Dragon X is a conspiracy?
What is even Dragon X?
I only know SpaceX and the Dragon capsule…

Lone Ranger

10million Americans left the U.S. living as Expats.
Up from 6million since 2008.
10million Ukrops left Banderistan, 3-4million went to Russia.

occupybacon

The 3-4 millions Ukies that left for Russia are the pussies which side with Dumbass but don’t want to get involved.

Lone Ranger

Mainly women and children fleeing from ukienazi shelling for 6 straight years.
Interestingly even non ethnic Russians fled to Russia, not towards Kiev…
Something to think about…

occupybacon

Probably colorado terrorists simpathisers

Lone Ranger

An ukropnazi would say that…
Terrorists are in Kiev…

occupybacon

Those americans and brits living in exotic countries as expats are doing that because they aford to, rissian retires would love to do so but they can barely afford food.

Lone Ranger

You again mixing up Russians with ukropnazis…
Most the U.S. expats left because of crimewaves, IRS, gangstalking and the breaking down of infrastucture and society in the U.S.
Thats the sad reality.

Lone Ranger

Dont worry, that would be the U.S., Mexico, Ukropisstan, Afghanistan, South-African Republic.

occupybacon

I don’t

paolinks

In fact the EU has become a shitfest. I cannot even go out without incurring in ordes of gipsies asking for money. Sometimes they look into my eyeballs, trying to intimidate me, to force me to puke the euros.

occupybacon

Only racists don’t apreciate the cultural enrichment… Btw how come EU citizens vote every time the same political correctness cocksuckers? Ohh waitt, because they are fags that bend over spread their arses with both hands.

paolinks

I do my part and don’t vote for the Soros’ bitches. But a lot of brainwashed idiots suffer from Stockholm syndrome.

Lone Ranger

EU officials arent directly elected, they are selected…
Local politicans are pedo commie traitors run by the cia and soros empires.
Except for the V4.

occupybacon

What is V4?

Lone Ranger

As a European you should know that…
Or are you one of those ukrops whom came back from Canada to help rebuild glorious banderistan…?
Its the Visegrád Group aka V4.
An Alliance within the EU.
Hungary, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Poland.

occupybacon

Thanks. Glory to Ukraine!

Lone Ranger

Ukraine doesnt exist anymore.
Im only aware of Banderistan, a cia/soros/imf colony

Lone Ranger

Glory Hungary, Russia and the Free World.
I hope you are aware that Trump and Putin are dismantling the globalists and their toyboys.
Trump wont forget how ukropnazis tried to end his presidency. Cough Windman cough…
Your handlers will be taken out ad well :)
Pedogate is coming to a full circle…oy oy….

Harry Smith

Faggots will cry in comments.

Fog of War

Does Russia print its own debt free money ?

JIMI JAMES

They print libyas aka 100% gold backey currency,unlike that magic 6% petrodolla fkfestive$

Fog of War

Thats a non answer. Does Russia print its own money debt free like China ?

AM Hants

Why do they need printers when they have gold? Besides Yuan is a reserve currency, unlike the ruble. What is your point?

Fog of War

“Why do they need printers when they have gold? ”

Whats the exchange rate between the ” gold backed ” ruble and the fiat Dollar ? Seems the world doesnt seem to keen on the ” gold backed ” Ruble. Why not ?

AM Hants

The ruble is not a currency reserve perhaps? However, how many nations not longer use the $US as their currency reserve? Including Russia and China.

JIMI JAMES

100% gold backed,infact the most gold backed currency on planet earth,so yes!

Fog of War

Alright, bring your Rubles into a Russian bank and see if you can walk out with gold. Let us know the results.

Tommy Jensen

No. The central bank of Russia is under controle of the House of London and its gold owned by Rotchilds jfr statutes written in the 1990’s by Western advisors.

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cechas vodobenikov

more stupidity–Russia has divested itself of 90+% of worthless US treasury bonds–your functionally illiterate robot empire will collapse in 5 years

Harry Smith

Because of modern monetary system there are not debt free money. At least I don’t remember this money exist.

JIMI JAMES

You control the oil,you will control,the money,you have the gold it will make more money!
Beats 6%,oh well may the plunge persist then,so be it!

AM Hants

They have enough gold and currency reserves to pay the minimal debt, if needed.

Fog of War

Of course the system is set up like that. ((( modern monetary system )))

I think you know why.

M.A. Lamett

Ruble is backed by Bonds of the Russian Government and Gold reserves. I actually heard that the ruble is the most gold-backed currency. Russia’s net public debt has fallen to zero for the first time since the introduction of sanctions and the collapse of oil prices, reported by Moscow Times in 2019.

AM Hants

No it has almost enough gold to back it’s currency and has minimal debt, that is covered by its healthy currency reserves.

Dawn

Not yet.. all in the due time..

paolinks

Absurd question. Fiat money is fiat money. And Russia follows a strict policy of not inundating the market with rubles. This is why interest rates are so high in Russia. And this is why the GDP/debt ratio is so low ( around 12% ). Russia could print much much much more rubles, by using its own land as collateral. But they don’t want their own country bought by chinese or americans or whoever.

Fog of War

Absurd reply, prior to Rothschild imposed central banks, nations printed their own money debt free. In fact, this system is enshrined in the US constitution, that is prior to 1913. China also prints its money debt free. The rest of your comment is irrelevant. Why doesnt Russia do what China does, whos more economically successful ?

paolinks

China is more economically successful. It should go without saying.

Also, there is nothing debt free in money. There has never been. Paper money is a loan, a way to say “I will pay, trust me”.

In the past, gold was used as collateral. Today you have debt and forex markets, with their currency pairs fluctuations. And you can buy anything from the issuer of the paper money. So, today, the collateral is the entire nation economy.

If you print too much money, your currency will go down down down and inflation will go up up up. And this is what happens to every country doing it ( ask some random african country ). The only country which prints tons of money and has a stable currency, is the US. Why? Because they have the bombs!!

It is really that simple.

But sorry, money in the past wasn’t debt free. Gold, silver and copper coins were debt free. But they weren’t/aren’t fiat money.

Fog of War

It seems we’re going in circles as you dont seem to understand the concept of debt free. When China prints its money it does so without having to pay interest on it to anyone. When ZioAmerica prints money it automatically has to pay back the principle plus the interests back to the Federal Reserve Bank ( owned by several wealthy families of the world ).

” If you print too much money, your currency will go down down down and inflation will go up up up. And this is what happens to every country doing it ”

Except this never happened in the third Reich nor is it happening currently in China. Why is that so hard to understand. China is regulating its money supply just fine and is kicking ZioAmerican economic ass at the same time.

The US economic system is collapsing mainly due to the fact that its debt based and all debt based systems eventually collapse unto themselves.

As far as Russia is concerned read the following quote from poster Tommy Jensen, as he posted factual information. There is no reason for Russia to keep its Western imposed economic straitjacket. Its perplexing why Putin hasnt proposed to do away with it after all this time.

” No. The prevailing Russian Constitution is written in 1993 by Western “advisors”.

Under this Constitution it is said, the CBR belongs to – the City of London – and is taking orders from London and Washington’s controlled IMF.
CBR can only print money corresponding to its cash in foreign currency, that being the dollar, which is not sufficient for Russia’s purposes.
The CBR even has to buy the worthless US treasury bonds for the dollars paid for Russian oil – whereby the dollars are returned to the Federal Reserve Bank. “

paolinks

The concept of “discount rate” exists even in China. The State pays interests on borrowed money. The difference is that the Central Bank of China is wholly State owned. Just like in Russia. The Russian Federation has a 100% share in the Central Bank of Russia. They don’t give a penny to the Rothschilds and friends.

Fog of War

Lets just forget it, you’re obviously not even reading what I posted.

Blas de Lezo

Trump should do the same.

JIMI JAMES

Yep,12 yr term,see nowadays you gotta vy for the lesser of evils,ea leader has d.s up its ass?
Mass arrests,bring them on,public hearings,trials,sentences,exibits,shame the traitors!

Trap Is Not Gay

Trump is Jew’s puppet.

Wayne Nicholson

He’s polling at 40% against JOE BIDEN. That’s like 10% against a dead cat if the Dems can find one willing to run. With a little luck, voter suppression and the electoral college he might be able to eek out another term …. as long as they don’t find that cat … or possum that is.

Mandate to be dictator for 16 years …. not a hope in hell.

Ivan Freely

Be careful with polls. All the polls back in 2016 were wrong.

Wayne Nicholson

I agree …. that’s why I said he may eek out another term …. and with the electoral college he can pull off a victory even if he only gets 45% of the vote.

cechas vodobenikov

Ivan thinks—amerikans likely prefer Biden, more fascist, racist than trump…although I could care less about leaders—they all promise what they cannot deliver…it is the elites —creative in Russia, bumbling short sighted, greedy in US, that matter….in the mid 1800’s the radical poet, Vissaron Belinsky wrote: Tsarist Russia is more free and just than amerika where corporations rule and robbery and thievery was made official”. He publicly attacked Gogol , perceiving him to have pandered to the Tsar

Trap Is Not Gay

If you don’t name the Jews, all that may be useless.

Jews always find a way to smear what’s good and praise the bad on their fake news.

RussG553

These are very positive amendments to the Russian constitution and align with my ideals. If I were younger, I would want to move there. Russia is indeed, “the country of the future” (words spoken by Churchill about Canada back in the 1950s).

Tudor Miron

Significant day in the history of my Motherland. Another big step towards restoring sovereignty of Russia.

BMWA1

Rodina!

J Roderet

Agreed. My understanding is that most people who voted against it actually felt that the changes did not go far enough (i.e. they wanted the traitor Yeltsin era constitution to be totally scrapped and replaced).

cechas vodobenikov

the liberals opposed it as did the communists–I oppose parts of the changes for the same reason as the CP—-the Moscow liberals wish to frenchchify Russia

S Melanson

Yes it is another important step and I see no turning back under Putin’s continuing guidance. I posted above and paste below my thoughts
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The amendments reflect the ongoing process of Russian internalization of Eurasionist ideology to replace the ideological void left by the fall of the Soviet Union. Putin has been overseeing the process of adopting the new ideology which involves generations to embed in the consciousness and then the subconscious of Russians. Aware of the long timeline involved, Putin I think wants to ensure that he is in a position to continue guiding Russia’s ideological development which I think is a good thing.

Russians have yearned for an ideology that resonates with them and can form the bedrock for unifying values that define Russian national identity. Eurasianism is a good fit as it emphasizes the importance of striking an independent path in cultural development and resolving questions of national identity which in turn necessitates the primacy of freedom to exercise sovereignty to maintain independence. We can clearly see this theme in the proposed amendments to the constitution.

I see western opposition to the amendments as they are seen as adding further impediments to western attempts to control Russia. Historically, efforts to control Russia have always failed and future efforts, like all past efforts, will also fail. It is about time for the west to acknowledge this and try something different, like trying to cooperate with Russia to exploit the many areas where common interests align.

I think the Russian people have come along way in defining their identity and their place in the world. Importantly, Russians recognize the importance of embracing their past without revisionism or censorship to sanitize the historical record. The history of a people is the foundation of their identity and preserving the monuments and other symbols of a long and rich history is absolutely the correct thing to do – take note USA.

This said, I do want to caution against the tendency to contrast Russian cultural development and values with the West, and especially the belief that Russia’s path be an antithesis to the Western path. This is not charting an independent path, it is reactionary in a way that effectively ties Russia’s path to the west. Being antithetical to western culture may seem an act of defiance to assert independence, but it is the opposite. It renders Russia’s cultural path subservient to the west since it is what the west chooses that will define Russia’s path.

If Russians truly want to strike out on an independent path, then ignore what the west are doing and chart your own course whatever that may be. God speed on your journey and you have my blessings.

Zarathustra

I think some of the changes were unofficially in effect beforehand, changes to the Russian constitution make it more official. I could be mistaken. Whoever wrote the script and screenplay for the government commercials to encourage citizens of Russia to vote has a good sense of humour, I saw some of those commercials online.

Tommy Jensen

BREAKING: 56% of ALL Russians said no to the undemocratic new Constitution!

These Russian elections were not overseen and supervised by the free and civilised world why they are considered null and void.

On top only 63% voted and 70% said yes, which means only 44% Russians said yes while 56% said no, because the majority of Russians want freedom instead of a new Stalin Gulag regime!

Styx

All in your apparently missing head that is, tommy.

Anything else?

Tommy Jensen

Manipulation of statistics.
People are only looking at Government supporters the 65% of the population which 70% voted for the $150.

Im looking at the silent majority who stood up, denied the bait and didnt dare to express their free wil and voice.
The silent resistance 35% who didnt vote who want freedom and not Gulag. Out of the 65% who voted, 30% more dared to say no.

35% who want freedom in silence and 30% who voted no is = 65% of all Russians prefer freedom!

Styx

You are looking for being nothing short of a mindless fibster in urgent need of being seen by a shrink.

Leave Russia to Russians and be done with it.

cechas vodobenikov

even in your presidential elections fewer than 45% vote in your military dictatorship police state oligarchy–more feminized Tammy insecurity

BMWA1

Then there is ukraine democracy where all policies come from US embassy

paolinks

through Twitter and Facebook! :D

cechas vodobenikov

without covid fascism your peasants realize that voting is irrelevant—u don’t permit national referendums—a fascist that thinks like a fascist that lives in a military dictatorship (inverted totalitarianism as demonstrated by wallerstein

cechas vodobenikov

21% voted no….66% yes…referendums are not permitted in your military dictatorship

Tommy Jensen

At least we have dollares. You can only rub your butt with gold bars…………ha ha ha ha ha. That joke was funny man.

Dawn

Go Russia go.. Keep a distance from western degeneration and degradation for a ten more years – positive results will be even more noticeable..

BMWA1

New statue to Rezhev battles…..see also Star Media channel Youtube for video from Great patriotic War/Soviet Storm series on meat grinder…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqarNbRzPjE&t=540s

Assad must stay

congratulations mister putin, please continue protecting your country and syria and iran and iraq from zionists and such :))))

cechas vodobenikov

SF censors and requests my donations—never again

S Melanson

The amendments reflect the ongoing process of Russian internalization of Eurasionist ideology to replace the ideological void left by the fall of the Soviet Union. Putin has been overseeing the process of adopting the new ideology which involves generations to embed in the consciousness and then the subconscious of Russians. Aware of the long timeline involved, Putin I think wants to ensure that he is in a position to continue guiding Russia’s ideological development which I think is a good thing.

Russians have yearned for an ideology that resonates with them and can form the bedrock for unifying values that define Russian national identity. Eurasianism is a good fit as it emphasizes the importance of striking an independent path in cultural development and resolving questions of national identity which in turn necessitates the primacy of freedom to exercise sovereignty to maintain independence. We can clearly see this theme in the proposed amendments to the constitution.

I see western opposition to the amendments as they are seen as adding further impediments to western attempts to control Russia. Historically, efforts to control Russia have always failed and future efforts, like all past efforts, will also fail. It is about time for the west to acknowledge this and try something different, like trying to cooperate with Russia to exploit the many areas where common interests align.

I think the Russian people have come along way in defining their identity and their place in the world. Importantly, Russians recognize the importance of embracing their past without revisionism or censorship to sanitize the historical record. The history of a people is the foundation of their identity and preserving the monuments and other symbols of a long and rich history is absolutely the correct thing to do – take note USA.

This said, I do want to caution against the tendency to contrast Russian cultural development and values with the West, and especially the belief that Russia’s path be an antithesis to the Western past. This is not charting an independent path, it is reactionary in a way that effectively ties Russia’s path to the west. Being antithetical to western culture may seem an act of defiance to assert independence, but it is the opposite. It renders Russia’s cultural past subservient to the west since it is what path the west chooses that will define Russia’s path.

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Congratulations Putin.

lovethemapples

Just like in Soviet Union. Not much will change in that country. Kim should take notes:))))

cechas vodobenikov

in the US half of the peasants recognize that voting in a police state oligarchy is irrelevant —the largest number voted in 2016—51%

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