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Extremist Groups, Mass Violence And Social Breakdown: Where Do The Real Threats Lie?

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Extremist Groups, Mass Violence And Social Breakdown: Where Do The Real Threats Lie?

Map of ‘anti-government’ groups

As noted in an earlier South Front report (“Widespread protests and violence continue in the US”), much of the early press coverage of developments related to the widespread protests, violence and rioting following the murder of George Floyd as he was being detained by police was taken up by US President Donald Trump’s allegations that ‘Antifa’ and the ‘radical left’ was responsible for most of the violence, property damage and looting that occurred.

Most of the rest of the coverage was devoted to the minutiae of the violent events and instances of looting, mob violence – usually portrayed either as violence without apparent motive or reason, or provoked by Antifa members and other ‘left-wing extremists’ who took advantage of the mass protests and demonstrations to further their own aims of generating conditions of wanton chaos and destruction as a precursor to full-scale social breakdown and/ or revolution.

There are however other sources claiming that demonstrations are being infiltrated by provocateurs, identifying the main culprits as ‘right-wing extremists’, ‘white supremacists’ and/ or companies that are regular contractors with the Pentagon, and even military and police personnel in some instances.

And just a couple of weeks ago, Trump was accusing ‘the social media companies’ of other forms of subversive and anti-democratic activities as he issued an Executive Decree purporting to regulate their censorship and blocking of certain types and categories of speech, dialogue and debate. This raises the immediate question, when access to reliable information is so crucial, and social media platforms have become  a primary source of information for so many people, could their usurpation of the right to censor peoples’ communications be considered ‘anti-democratic’, maybe even subversive in some cases?

Meanwhile, the deeper structural causes and factors involved, such as the creeping militarization of the police, embedded discrimination and racism in political, economic and social structures, and underlying conditions of extreme poverty and inequality, were often either omitted from the dominant narratives, marginalized, or covered in a limited and superficial manner.

While addressing the structural causes in a comprehensive and rational framework of analysis and debate is imperative if the situation is to improve in the long term, an immediate imperative is the initiation of detailed investigations and evidence-based analysis to determine to what extent the violence, destruction  and looting in each instance has been due to spontaneous outbursts of mass anger and mob rage; calculated actions, provocation and manipulation by organized groups of whatever persuasion; and/ or brutal measures or counter-measures employed by police, private security forces or the national guard.

The accusations begin, usually without a shred of evidence

US President Donald Trump announced last Sunday (31 May) that a ‘left-wing group’ he thinks is leading the violence at anti-police brutality protests will be officially labelled as terrorists: “The United States of America will be designating ANTIFA as a Terrorist Organization.””The violence and vandalism is being led by Antifa and other radical left-wing groups who are terrorizing the innocent, destroying jobs, hurting businesses and burning down buildings,” Trump said during remarks at the Kennedy Space Centre in Florida the day before.Attorney General William Barr then remarked:”With the rioting that is occurring in many of our cities around the country, the voices of peaceful and legitimate protests have been hijacked by violent radical elements. Groups of outside radicals and agitators are exploiting the situation to pursue their own separate, violent, and extremist agenda,” Barr said.Barr said that in order to “coordinate federal resources with our state and local partners,” he would use the “existing network of 56 regional FBI Joint Terrorism Task Forces.””The violence instigated and carried out by Antifa and other similar groups in connection with the rioting is domestic terrorism and will be treated accordingly,” Barr said.The American Civil Liberties Union said Trump did not have the power to label domestic terror groups. “Terrorism is an inherently political label, easily abused and misused,” the organization commented.Trump’s national security Robert O’Brien told CNN that the administration planned to “get to the bottom” of Antifa’s role in the protests. And he said the president and Barr want to know what the FBI is doing to “to track and dismantle and surveil and prosecute Antifa.” – From USA Today

But others have blamed right-wing extremists and other groups of infiltrators and provocateurs as the main culprits, seeking to incite widespread violence and manipulate or discredit the mass demonstrations and protests. A report by Veterans Today states:

“VT has carefully examined video in Detroit, Atlanta and Minneapolis and has found members of organizations, Pentagon contracting firms, present at each protest, handing fire bombs, throwing large rocks, and leading the violence.

We have confirmation from our personnel in Minneapolis, who have their own sources in the police and local FBI.

Working with these contracting firms is a sub-group within the departments, “intelligence” and “counter-terrorism” units, who do surveillance and who were, in every department we looked at, both trained in Israel and overseen on a daily basis by “handlers” either from an Israeli consulate or from the ADL/JDL/JINSA or similar group representing Shin Bet…” LINK

It could be some time before the full details and dynamics behind the developments are known, and it is quite likely that they will be lost in the barrage of competing claims and narratives. The Attorney-General of Minnesota referred to this in remarks to the press, and the grave dangers involved in making allegations before investigations have been conducted:

“The truth is nobody really knows,” Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison said Sunday on NBC News’ “Meet the Press.”

“What the exact political motivation is is unclear at this point. We need to investigate it,” Ellison said.

He faulted Barr and Trump for focusing on Antifa, rather than addressing the “systemic police abuses in America.”

“So I think the federal government does have a role, but it needs to be constructing a better relationship between cities and the police departments that serve them. And making incendiary comments about who’s to blame here as opposed to actually investigating it isn’t helpful.”

As a starting point, there are the most visible or high-profile ‘left-wing’ and ‘right-wing’ extremist groups alleged to be taking advantage of the protests and disturbances to further their own agendas, utilizing and seeking to augment mass violence and social breakdown to push for social revolution or civil war against their opponents. (As yet, there are no suggestions that religious extremists are involved in a major way.)

Beyond this, there are other more powerful but less visible groups who may in turn be seeking to manipulate some or all of these groups, and/ or manipulate the actions of mass protests through infiltration, social media, false news, etc.

To what extent is there evidence proving or suggesting that one or more of these groups is involved in systematic  infiltration of demonstrations and involvement in acts calculated to set off mass violence and rioting? In many cases it is quite likely that events are the result of ‘pure’ mob rage and frustration, opportunist looting and sacking, or a reaction to police/ national guard/ private military or security contractor brutality and oppression.

It is important not to over-simplify or generalize from individual cases and events – while there may be nation-wide trends and common factors, as well as evidence of infiltration by members of specific groups in certain moments and locations, there are also a lot of other factors and local variants involved.

It is of course also possible that in some cases organizers of protests are encouraging violence and/ or looting to up the stakes, drama, tension and press coverage.

Many commentaries take evidence of a certain group’s infiltration of specific protests and extrapolate from there to argue that this is proof that the group involved is behind all such acts of infiltration and provocation throughout the US. Maybe they are right, but it should not be assumed that this is the case.

Moreover, for each instance of proven infiltration and incitement to violence, there are often many other instances where other members of the same group are demonstrating and protesting in a non-violent, responsible and disciplined manner.

At another level is how developments in the streets is portrayed and explained by politicians and the media. If it can be demonstrated that they are censoring and manipulating information to promote a certain perspective or agenda and perpetuate a state of confusion, fear and misinformation, is this less ‘anti-democratic’ and criminal than inciting violence from a street corner?

Investigations of extremist groups

Several years ago, Foreign Policy published a series of detailed reports on extremist groups active in the US:

Amid a rancorous debate over whether the Trump administration has downplayed the threat posed by white supremacist groups, the FBI’s counterterrorism division has declared that black identity extremists pose a growing threat of premeditated violence against law enforcement.

“The FBI assesses it is very likely Black Identity Extremist (BIE) perceptions of police brutality against African Americans spurred an increase in premeditated, retaliatory lethal violence against law enforcement and will very likely serve as justification for such violence,” reads the report, marked for official use only and obtained by Foreign Policy.

The August 2014 shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, was the catalyst for widespread anger and violence, the FBI report says, concluding that continued “alleged” police abuses have fueled more violence.

“The FBI assesses it is very likely incidents of alleged police abuse against African Americans since then have continued to feed the resurgence in ideologically motivated, violent criminal activity within the BIE movement,” the report states.

Some 748 people have been shot and killed by police so far in 2017, including at least 168 African-Americans.

The report, dated Aug. 3 — just nine days before the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville turned deadly — appears to be the first known reference to “black identity extremists” as a movement. But former government officials and legal experts said no such movement exists, and some expressed concern that the term is part of a politically motivated effort to find an equivalent threat to white supremacists…

The concept of “black identity extremists” appears to be entirely new. FP found only five references to the term in a Google search; all were to law enforcement documents about domestic terrorism from the last two months. One of those online references is to law enforcement training on identifying “domestic terror groups and criminally subversive subcultures which are encountered by law enforcement professionals on a daily basis.”

Among the six acts of premeditated violence linked to black identity extremists — it excludes violence toward police carried out in the normal course of their duties — the reports cites the July 2016 shooting of 11 police officers in Dallas. The shooter, Micah Johnson, was reportedly angry at police violence.

“Based on Johnson’s journal writings and statements to police, he appeared to have been influenced by BIE ideology,” the FBI report states. The attack took place during a Black Lives Matter protest of police shootings, though the BLM movement is not mentioned by name in the report.

Yet those involved in the Black Lives Matter movement have voiced concerns about FBI surveillance.

DeRay McKesson, an activist involved in the Black Lives Matter movement, told FP that the FBI visited his house in the run-up to the Republican National Convention. “I spoke about the FBI visit to my house and the houses of other activists in our final meeting with [President Barack] Obama,” he said.

“There is a long tradition of the FBI targeting black activists and this is not surprising,” McKesson said.

The FBI declined to comment on the report itself and did not respond to specific questions, but in an emailed statement to FP, the bureau defended its tracking of “black identity extremists,” saying that “the FBI cannot initiate an investigation based solely on an individual’s race, ethnicity, national origin, religion, or the exercise of First Amendment rights.”

… Some experts and former government officials said the FBI seemed to be trying to paint disparate groups and individuals as sharing a radical, defined ideology. And in the phrase “black identity extremist” they hear echoes of the FBI’s decades-long targeting of black activists as potential radicals, a legacy that only recently began to change.

“They are grouping together Black Panthers, black nationalists, and Washitaw Nation,” said the former homeland security official. “Imagine lumping together white nationals, white supremacists, militias, neo-Nazis, and calling it ‘white identity extremists.’”

The FBI is linking the people discussed in the report based only on them being black, rather than on any sort of larger ideological connection, the official said…

In 2009, Daryl Johnson, then a Department of Homeland Security intelligence analyst, warned of the rise of right-wing extremism, setting off a firestorm among congressional critics. Johnson, who left the department in 2010, said while there have been concerns about rising violence among black separatist groups in recent years, he said, but it does not approach the threat of right-wing extremism. “When talking about white supremacists versus black supremacists, there are way more white supremacists,” Johnson said…

The FBI also appeared to be focusing more attention on the threat of white supremacists. In May, the FBI warned that white supremacist violence was growing, according to a report obtained and published by FP. That same report noted that white supremacists were responsible for more attacks in the United States than any other extremist group, including Islamic extremists.

Critics, however, accuse President Donald Trump of shifting attention away from right-wing violence. This year, the Trump administration decided to focus the Department of Homeland Security’s “countering violent extremism” program on Islamic terrorism and deprioritized funding to counter white supremacist groups…

The FBI says there are “nine persistent extremist movements” in the United States at present. Those include “white supremacy, black identities, militia, sovereign citizens, anarchists, abortion, animal rights, environmental rights, and Puerto Rican Nationalism.” LINK

While the evidence and analysis of the FBI must be included in any rigorous assessment of what is happening and who is involved, some argue that it is also important to not accept their reports a face value without further investigation and verification, as demonstrated by the revelations concerning the COINTELPRO program. (VIDEO: COINTELPRO The FBI’s War on Black America 1990)

A study by the Center for Strategic and International Studies provides another perspective on the emergence and expansion of some of these groups: The Rise of Far-Right Extremism in the United States.

Who or what is Antifa, the group Trump wants to declare a ‘terrorist organization’?

The American anti-fascist movement, known as Antifa, is a combative radical movement that, after Trump’s arrival in the White House, has become increasingly active against the protests of white supremacists.

Antifa activists are often identified by Trump and his supporters as ‘alt-left’, as opposed to the ‘alt-right’ groups that support the ruler and include white supremacist groups.

The group made headlines in June 2019 when its members clashed with those of a far-right group called ‘Proud Boys’ in Portland. Those violent riots left several wounded on both sides, including a journalist for a conservative newspaper.

In the United States the creation of the movement has been traced to the late 1980s, linked to the ARA (Anti-Racist Action) group, forerunners of anti-fascist movements in this country that confronted US supremacist and neo-Nazi groups.

It is inspired by the anti-fascist movements that emerged in Europe from the 1920s in response to the rise of fascism, especially in Italy. In fact, it uses the same flag, with the colours red and black and the motto Antifascist Action. Ideologically they are generally considered as being located on the most radical left and define themselves as anti-capitalist.

It is not a unified organization but a movement without hierarchical structure that is made up of various organized groups and individuals, especially in recent years, through social networks. Its members are generally youths, who dress completely in black and wear masks or scarves to cover their faces and avoid being identified.

In the United States, it has regained vigour, especially since 2016 with the arrival of Donald Trump to the presidency and in response to the rise of supremacist movements linked to the Tea Party and the extreme right that support the president. In recent years they have been present in the demonstrations against racism and police brutality.

Although Antifa does not have a formal organizational structure, groups identifying themselves with the movement have had a presence in several European countries (in Madrid, Barcelona, ​​the Basque Country, Paris, Berlin, Stockholm, among other cities) and have focused on the United States in recent years. More recently, Antifa flags and banners have also been seen in some Latin American countries.

The causes for which Antifa fights are varied within a mosaic of the revolutionary left, with many members supporting oppressed populations and protesting against the accumulation of wealth among the elites.

Antifa members have been present at different events promoted by what they see (or declare) as ‘right-wing groups’ for years. In August 2017, they appeared in Charlottesville, Virginia, to condemn racism and counter protests against the removal of a statue of General Robert E. Lee.

In the early stages of the most recent protests, the FBI’s Washington Field Office indicated that it had “no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence” in the violence that occurred on May 31 during the D.C.-area protests over the murder of George Floyd, according to an internal FBI situation report obtained by The Nation.

“The FBI report, however, states that “based on CHS [Confidential Human Source] canvassing, open source/social media partner engagement, and liaison, FBI WFO has no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence.” The statement followed a list of violent acts like throwing bricks at police and the discovery of a backpack containing explosive materials, which were flagged by the FBI under a “Key Updates” section of the report. The FBI has been issuing such reports daily since the weekend, according to a Bureau source, who added that none of these documents contained any evidence of antifa violence.

Antifa, short for “anti-fascist,” is a type of militant anti-racist, anti-nationalist organizing that does not rely on the justice system to confront the far right. Groups associated with antifa have destroyed property and committed violence in the past, but the fact that the FBI’s situation reports cannot find any evidence of such involvement now suggests that fears about such groups may be exaggerated.

The report did warn that individuals from a far-right social media group had “called for far-right provocateurs to attack federal agents, use automatic weapons against protesters.” (The Nation is withholding the name of the group in order to not disrupt any potential law enforcement investigations.)

Last year, FBI documents obtained by this reporter showed that the Bureau has listed “Racially Motivated Violent Extremists” among its top counterterrorism priorities. While those priorities did include white supremacist groups, they also included what the FBI called “Black Identity Extremists.” The documents reveal that the Bureau linked “retaliatory lethal violence against law enforcement” to the “shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri,” from which the Black Lives Matter movement originated…” LINK

Regardless of the abovementioned conclusion, the participation of Antifa in the ongoing wave of protests across the US is an open secret.

Right wing extremist groups

According to a report posted by VICE news, several members of one of the more recently created right-wing extremist groups have been arrested at protests after attempting to instigate or escalate mass violence:

The Boogaloo Bois are bringing Hawaiian shirts, AR-15s — and now, apparently, explosives — to anti-racism protests across the country.

Three of these new right-wing anti-government extremists were arrested by federal authorities in Las Vegas on Thursday, accused of trying to spark violence at the protests there for their own gain.

Now this congressman wants to know what, exactly, the Department of Homeland Security is doing about it.

Rep. Max Rose, Democrat from New York, sent a letter to DHS asking that they conduct a specific threat assessment of the Boogaloo movement “and any potential violent threats that they may pose in order to ensure that state and local partners are informed and aware.”

…Federal investigators in Nevada started looking into Stephen Parshall, 35, Andrew Lynam Jr., 23, and William Loomis, 40, after they received a tip in early April. Their tipster later became their informant, and went to meet Parshall and Lynam at a ReOpen Nevada rally around that time. They were heavily armed, and the informant recalled that they bragged about their group and how their ultimate goal was to overthrow the U.S. government.

On a separate occasion, during a hike, they talked about their plans in a little more detail: they wanted to target power plants or ranger stations, according to the complaint.

They continued to show up to future ReOpen Nevada rallies, heavily armed. Around mid-May, they came up with a plan modeled on tactics used by the Irish Republican Army , federal prosecutors say. They would set off fireworks, or other explosives, at the next ReOpen protest on May 16, in order to create a confusing and chaotic scene, and bait law enforcement and other attendees into opening fire…” LINK

Another report from the same source states that:

“perhaps the most troubling of all are the hardcore “accelerationists” who are encouraging their neo-Nazi followers to go to the protests and carry out acts of violence against black people — all with the goal of “exacerbating the ethnic tensions” and sparking a “race war.”

Accelerationists promote violence to speed up the collapse of society. An eco-fascist Telegram channel wrote to its nearly 2,500 subscribers on Thursday that “a riot would be the perfect place to commit a murder.” Accelerationists often seek to exploit moments of political or civil unrest, and the widespread protests that have unfolded across the country fit the bill. Similarly, 4chan is full of racists cheering the violence and saying that they hope it’s the beginning of a “race war.”

… While more established militia types sometimes share those perspectives, they often view themselves as intermediaries between law enforcement and civilians. For example, two armed white men were interviewed by the Minnesota Reformer, a local independent news organization, outside a tobacco store in Minneapolis this week. They said they were protecting businesses from looters, but were also there to defend civilians should they need to.

“Cops are less likely to tread on people’s rights when there’s other armed people around them,” one of the men told the interviewer…

Local activists identified another group in Minneapolis as members of the III% militia, one of the largest militia networks in the U.S… LINK

To the above extremist groups must be added the ‘extremists’ among the police who have been filmed exercising excessive and unnecessary violence: LINK

Moreover, the violence and looting that has occurred in many cities is miniscule compared to the violence and looting perpetrated by the political and economic elite in their never ending ‘wars of choice’, regime change operations and forced distribution of wealth from the poor and middle classes to the most wealthy and powerful.

Another possible factor that must be take into account is the ‘secret societies’ and other groups that include many of the political and economic elite among their members, as well as recruiting from and infiltrating the military, intelligence and police leadership and rank-and-file members. A preliminary list would include the Freemasons, Opus Dei, the Jesuits, the Pilgrim Society, the Knights of Malta, the Council of Foreign Relations, AIPAC and B’Nai Brith, among others. Veterans Today has published numerous reports claiming that religious extremist Dominican sects have infiltrated key sectors of the military, for example. To the extent that such membership of such groups can be ascertained, is there evidence that they are pushing specific actions and policies in the midst of the mayhem and confusion, and if so what are there apparent objectives?

Perhaps a proper investigation of 9/11 would provide some clues? See, for example, this analysis by Veterans Today, and another by Kevin Ryan. Or the documentary by Giulietto Chiesa: Zero: An investigation into 9/11

Social media platforms

A couple of weeks ago US President Donald Trump signed an executive order targeting social media companies, days after Twitter called two of his tweets “potentially misleading.”

Speaking from the Oval Office ahead of signing the order, Trump said the move was to “defend free speech from one of the gravest dangers it has faced in American history.”

“A small handful of social media monopolies controls a vast portion of all public and private communications in the United States,” he claimed. “They’ve had unchecked power to censor, restrict, edit, shape, hide, alter, virtually any form of communication between private citizens and large public audiences.”

As CNN subsequently reported, the order marks a dramatic escalation by Trump in his war with tech companies as they struggle with the ‘growing problem of misinformation’ on social media. The President has regularly accused sites of censoring conservative speech.

“Trump and conservatives have long complained that tech platforms algorithmically censor right-wing voices. The claims derive from a perception that Silicon Valley’s largely left-leaning workforce has designed social media products to discriminate against conservatives, though the companies strongly deny the allegations.

Last year, the White House set up a website to solicit complaints from the public about tech companies’ perceived political bias, and Trump has called for an examination of NBC’s television license. “The Radical Left is in total command & control of Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and Google.”

So, who are some of these social media companies and tech companies exactly that control and manage such a large proportion of the world’s most-used social media platforms? Google, Facebook, Twitter and Instagram are singled out for mention.

While the largest individual shareholders and senior executives receive almost all the attention (as with many of the other companies mentioned here), the largest institutional investors of Twitter, Inc. are Vanguard Group (10.6%), Blackrock (7%), Morgan Stanley (6.1%) and State Street Corporation (4.5%), between them around 28% (directly – this is probably a considerable under-estimate, as it doesn’t include smaller shareholdings of other subsidiaries or controlled entities). They are also among the largest mutual fund holders through a range of investment vehicles. Vanguard, Blackrock and State Street are also among the 5 largest shareholders of Morgan Stanley.

Facebook acquired the WhatsApp messaging and calling platform in 2014. It acquired Instagram in 2012, and has purchased a variety of other technology and data collection companies with capabilities with many diverse capabilities such as face recognition technology. The largest institutional investors of Facebook are Vanguard (7.4%), Capital R&M (6.9%), Fidelity M&R (5%), State Street (4%) and Blackrock (2.4%) – between them around 28.7%.

The largest institutional investors of Google are Vanguard (7.4%), Capital R&M (5%), Fidelity M&R (4%), State Street (3.9%) and Blackrock (2.4%) – between them around 22.8%.

And who owns CNN, for that matter, one of the bastions of the fourth estate and the ‘free press’? Apparently, through one or two degrees of separation AT&T is the parent company (via Time Warner). So who are the largest shareholders of AT&T? Vanguard (7.8%), Capital R&M (4.8%), State Street (4%) and Blackrock is 6th with (2.4%) – between them around 19%.

How about ‘Silicon Valley’? Just to take two examples, the four largest shareholders of Microsoft are Vanguard (7%), Blackrock (4%), State Street (4%) and Capital R&M (4%): the four largest shareholders of Apple are Vanguard (7%), Berkshire Hathway (5%), Blackrock (3%) and State Street (4%) – in both cases, for a total of 19% between them.

The same financial/ investment fund monsters have large stakes if not between them a controlling interest in many of the most influential mass media companies, weapons producers, among many, many other key economic, industrial and technology sectors. A more detailed of the multi-layered, interlocked financial pyramid of ownership and control is available here.

The new executive order raises the need to reconsider the regulation of social media platforms. As the fear, uncertainty and confusion increase, the matter takes on added significance and urgency.

Beyond this is the challenge of seeking to ensure diversity, freedom of choice and real alternatives among social media platforms, as well as deciding who should have the power to censor or control their use, and according to what principles and objectives. What happened to freedom of speech, freedom of association, freedom of the press, etc.? But at the same time, how can deliberate misinformation and manipulation of information be confronted. One thing is certain, it is not something that should be left up to the social media companies. A federal agency subject to government control would not be much better.

Going a step further, how have such a small number of relatively recently established investment funds and financial conglomerates managed to obtain control over such a staggering share of most of the major companies involved, as well as just about everything else?

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Chinese Dog

Chinese assholes have commited a grave mistake and they are doing the same with India. Chinese are very soon gonna get fucked by India (through tibet), Turkey and Central asian states(through Uigyrs) and in the South east asian region.Chinese army will get overstretched and China will ultimately breakup.The main factor here is lack of combat experience.

Zionism = EVIL

LOL, what a turd, can’t even make it as a troll.

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Chinese Dog

That was in the past.We have prepared some surprises for them which they will never forget and many of the Chinese will soon return in body bags if they continue their aggressive behaviour

guest

Behave yourself, China is not interested in humiliating an impoverished neighbor. We are in competition with the US, which is manipulating India for cheap propaganda. Asians don’t fight normally as we settle differences through diplomacy.

Chinese Dog

Lol , you will soon have Chinese soldiers in body bags , just wait and watch the game is about to start ;)

guest

It is not a game. People die in real wars. How old are you? Stop being an insolent child. China is not interested in any war. Our focus is economic development.

Chinese Dog

Well I know how the CCP bastards work. We are coming be ready. Your ladyboy 50 cent army will soon die like flies.All your neighbours hate you yellow bastards and you will soon see your lying CCP disintegrate

Zionism = EVIL

Shut the fuck up shithead :) how are you going to fight China from a call center ? or delivering curry in a hurry.

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Zionism = EVIL

He is just a cunt turd troll. Enjoy,comment image this is real India.

Chinese Dog

Post something else you shia bastard

Zionism = EVIL

Your dad not good enough turd face ROFLMAO!

sr37212

Be careful – India is catching up and your cheapest goods with made in China are actually made in Vietnam – they may just take over your factories and keep the profits for themselves.

sr37212

That Impoverished country is the #5 economy. Diplomacy being – do as we say or die

occupybacon

Chinese did the same when they tried to invade Taiwan, surrendered to Taiwanese coast guards and begged for food

guest

You are ignorant to say the least.

sr37212

If that is a WW2 photo – many Indian’s thought the Japanese would be better than the British who they really hated.

Tommy Jensen

The riots are staged. To convince people the Police is not needed, and we can go for robocops, mass surveillance instead “to avoid the violent and racist police officers”.

Back up your police officer. Any other choice will be 10x worse!

occupybacon

I still believe an armed militia of volunteers would make the neighbourhoods safer than what the corrupt police and bureaucracy can do

Neurasth

What if you are white and the militia happens to be a gang of racist blacks?

occupybacon

It’s their right to be. If everybody has guns we salute each other with respects no matter of the political views.

Neurasth

tbats very naive on your sire. Well meaning, but thats not what would happen

occupybacon

It’s exactly what happens. In USA where people have guns, there is order and peace, where dems banned guns, there are looting and gang violence.

Neurasth

Yeah sure, but in the USA there is police and a culture of safety. In your scenario, remember that there are no police and safety comes from militias. This is a very important detail. In that instance, the militia would be racist gangs, whom right now are the most popular individuals in society and the most willing to commit atrocity. I can say with near certainty that law and order would be absolutely despotic and white people who chose not to congregate would get slaughtered and even sold to slavery by the racist mobs.

Harry Smith

Looks like you don’t have any real combat experience even in armed protecting yourself against 3 or more people with guns. Literally – you don’t have a chance.

occupybacon

Arms keep peace, that’s my philosophy. If people that bear guns they already passed a test or two. The same as military…

Phoron

Well, if the police arent gonna do thier jobs- protecting people’s property and lives against criminal mobs- it stands to reason that militias would provide more order.

Having a professional police force is obviously more preferable, if it’s not completely dysfunctional or – as is the case all too often- aiding and abetting the Mob…

occupybacon

Of course it’s preferable to have a functional police but if you have a large country with extremely violent mobs and cartels, the option 2 is more effective

Tommy Jensen

Its tried in third nations. Its probably more safe than the public, but no guarantee.

Guards are being paid to look the other way, guard usually sleep the night away, guards run away by the first sight of some with authority, guards snitch to gangs, guards steal.

occupybacon

That still happens when the rest of the citizens are not armed and the guards are permanent, it would make no difference of the actual system. All citizens should be armed and volunteer by rotation.

Zionism = EVIL

The dumbass Americunts are like a 10 year old retarded kid with a shotgun, violent and unstable and the Jew cunts pushing their evil agenda has ruined them. It is a failed state and nothing can save it.

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Zarathustra

I beg to differ. It’s not over until it’s over.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/CrYbk4WGuSOS/

kenpachi

might be 50 or 100 million worse siding with

RichardD

I’ve had a front row seat, literally, from the beginning. My take is that these are anti lockdown protests. In a lot of areas like where I’m at the real unemployment rate is in the 50% range. All of the things in the article are factors. But the main drivers are the lockdowns, unemployment, and restrictions.

Zionism = EVIL

Don’t forget endless wars for the Jew cunts. It is their “training” of cops that is causing the police state brutality.

RichardD

Absolutely, with the police criminals protected by Jew political, judicial and media control. It’s a national disgrace.

Zionism = EVIL

Imagine what the $13 trillion lost on Jew fanned wars would have done for uplifting the average citizen. Another Jew cunt named Chad Wolf (Homeland Insecurity) was just on TV praising the use of military to subdue the demonstrators.

Zarathustra
RichardD

The protesters had a few blocks of the city barricaded off last night where they set fire to an intersection. There weren’t a lot there at 2am. And the police could have cleared it. But during the day when there’s over 1,000 protesters it’s more difficult.

Phoron

The so-called security forces wont do anything but protect the highest value assets.

Other wise they are going down on their knees before the Mob.

They wont protect your business, home, family or life. You’re on your own.

Ivan Freely

There’s not enough people to protect everything. If one tried, nothing gets protected. This is why the Right to Bear arms is so important.

RichardD

It’s partly a manpower issue. They’re outnumbered. The US Constitution provides for armed municipal militias. That’s an option on an as needed basis to deal with the manpower issues.

RichardD

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Ivan Freely

Pftt…that’s a dumpster fire. The opening shots of the riots where much more destructive.

RichardD

The entire intersection was on fire, 30 to 40 feet across, with flames 6 to 10 feet high. I was at the other intersection 1 block away. And was concerned that I might be targeted. So I didn’t try to investigate further and drove away. comment image

Ivan Freely

I understand your caution. My remark was about the fire itself. I find lighting up an intersection is a waste of time and resources. They need to go to the source of the corruption. Only an armed march with a plan (key point here) towards the Capital will resolve it.

As for the driver, he had every right to defend himself. It’s shit like that will ensure the movement against corruption dies with a whimper. Randomly attacking people, or looting some Mom & Pop shop will only strengthen the authorities position.

RichardD

Jews are a source of a lot of the corruption. The US would be a much different and better place without Jews. Judaism should be outlawed in the US and on the planet, and the planet dejudified so that it’s Jew free. It’s not a cure all. But it will correct the biggest part of the problem and make the others easier to solve.

RichardD

The protesters ambushed this driver in this area, tried to drag him out of the car, and were punching him in the face through the window when he shot the assailant. I didn’t want the same thing to happen to me. Or I would have gotten better pictures that showed that it wasn’t a dumpster fire. If he didn’t have a handgun with a high capacity magazine it’s unlikely that he would have made it to the police station on his own.
https://youtu.be/P6dknyrb6fY

Phoron

That was good effective defense against the mob of humanoid terrorists, but I think he should have stayed in his vehicle and driven out…

Ivan Freely

I question the guy’s decision to continue driving towards a large gathering AND leaving his vehicle. I wonder if running into the mob is a cover as most people don’t know what’s going on.

RichardD

He was trying to get the assailant off of the car. That’s why he kept driving. There’s a police station 2 blocks away that the protesters are trying to attack. There are platoons of National Guard protecting it at times.

The entire area is teeming with protesters. Once you’re surrounded they’re going to get you out of the car and assault, injure and possibly kill you or fire bomb it. It was the same risk that I took getting the picture.

He’s fortunate that he only had to shoot one of them, that it wasn’t lethal, and that he made it to the police station without getting assaulted further.

Ivan Freely

The driver’s decision in running towards security forces while armed was a huge risk. How would the security forces be able to determine on the driver’s intent? For all they know, the driver could be looking to harm them. Those security forces wouldn’t even know what just transpired a couple of blocks away.

RichardD

I’ve had guns confiscated and returned by yhe police more than once. The most recent incident was a case of mistaken identity. I looked like someone that they were looking for. Police interact with armed Americans 24/7/365 every hour of every day.

If you’re carrying and rational you interact with the police when you’re packing in a manner to minimise the risk of escalation.

RichardD

Driving out risks injuring and killing people. That’s what he was trying to avoid. There aren’t any good options, and there’s very little time to make decisions. He did the best that he could under the circumstances.

RichardD

This is my video and concealed carry kit. The pistol is 9mm, the folding carbine is .40 S&W. Both would be effective in a riot situation. And the Sub 2000 is balanced and light enough to fire with one hand. A couple of pistols with 30 round magazines like the motorist had would be highly effective at close range. I’d run them with target lasers. But if you needed to hit something further out, the carbine makes that much more feasible. comment image comment image

Zarathustra

I apologize for before, even though it happened quite a while ago.

What’s happening now is explained in-depth by the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. Their plan is to mess up society and the world at large to such an extent that people are willing to accept draconian measures to solve the problems that globalist oligarchs created.

Julius Evola on the Jewish Question: bitchute. com/video/SPZPXCSFAXt5/

archive. org/details/TheProtocolsOfTheLearnedEldersOfZion

archive. org/details/ProtocolsOfZionMarsden1934/page/n3/mode/2up

Divide & Conquer; The international clique of jewish bankers in tandem with corrupt gentiles create Problems, the public Reacts, the oligarchs present a faulty “Solution” that creates more problems that are “solved” with faulty solutions. Rinse and repeat. Those who get in their way are terminated and replaced with dysfunctional puppet leaders.

goodreads. com/book/show/23366257-a-history-of-central-banking-and-the-enslavement-of-mankind

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RichardD

A UN convention abolishing Judaism should be enacted and ratified similar to the ones abolishing slavery and torture.

Goran Grubić HardyVeles

Thanks for sharing first-hand insights barely mentioned. I assumed lockdown stress as major drive yet left puzzled by both msm and alt-media interpretation.

Zionism = EVIL

That is why the Jew cunts want to shut down truthful “alt-media” as it gives the real picture as Richard accurately described.This scamdemic is all about creating a scared global police state as rational people were tiring of the 911 bullshit false flag, so the Jew cunts had to come up with something even more scary. Did not work obviously.

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Zarathustra

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Goran Grubić HardyVeles

Actually, it is you shutting down meaningful discussion by polluting it with meaningless childrengarden-street level language – exactly as described in The Protocols. Think about it for a second. Contemplate on this obvious fact: you are an agent of Zionism.

Zarathustra

Some people think it the death of George Floyd is a staged PsyOp to spark this public overreaction, at the very least it’s certainly a staged uproar that is far from ever being an organic reaction. It is well funded and coordinated by the media and the billionaires who finance shit-tier groups like Antifa and BLM.

This has led to identical groups, among others, to riot and cause problems in Latin America and throughout Europe.

The “White Supremacist Terrorist” is a boogie man being used as an excuse to outlaw and punish “antisemitism”, clamping down on voices and information exposing mainstream views concerning WW2 and the holocaust.

Philly News Editor Ousted After Daring To Question Legitimacy Of Burning The City’s Buildings Down https://www.zerohedge.com/political/philly-news-editor-resigns-after-daring-question-legitimacy-burning-citys-buildings-down

George Floyd Was Cuffed And Then Uncuffed Before Being “Killed” https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=SND6Y78WGAR2

“If this was a real event, and it is clear that it is not, then there would be zero reason to uncuff George Floyd when trying to restrain him.”

Footage of George Floyd’s ‘Arrest’ and ‘Death’ Prove It Was a Staged PsyOp

http://www.renegadetribune.com/footage-of-george-floyds-arrest-and-death-prove-it-was-a-staged-psyop/

RichardD

They may haved realized that he was dead and uncuffed him.

Zarathustra

He was uncuffed before he died.

RichardD

Then why didn’t he try to get the officer killing him off his neck?

RichardD

There’s definitely instigation making it worse. But unless the msm completely killed the story there would be substantial protests without it. If there was no lockdown, unemployment and virus restrictions the protests would be much weaker.

Concrete Mike

Then i’m affraid your protesting for the wrong reasons.

Runaway capitalism has destroyed the social.contract in your country!

America has been deindustrialized , then bailed out the banks 5 times with quantitative easing, the same banks that use that money in stock buyback schemes.

That is why i protest. This un equality must stop.

Stay safe brother.

Ivan Freely

You guys need to get more organized. Shit, the HK rioters had more balls and brains. Recklessly lashing out does not win hearts and minds of the undecided / silent majority. It would have been understandable if you guys went for all strongholds (i.e. police, politicians, banksters, etc…) that perpetrate this inequality and burnt it all down.

Phoron

The lockdown and unemployment create the volatile inspiration.

There is pre-existing anti-white racism in play also. Plus nobody really cares for the police all that much.

The spark is provided by the communard press.

RichardD

I completely agree.

IMHO

The real threat is on the side of the Godless liberals who are the real racists who seek racial division along every subject. Liberals are liars and deviants. Even those who call themselves Christian yet by their every deed they prove themselves to be the seed of Satan. You judge a tree by it’s fruit.
They do the very things they claim they are against and lay the blame on those who oppose them. And the ignorant masses around the world buy into it.
Soon, I hope, God’s two witnesses will come and judge this world and call fire from heaven on their heads.
Remember that the whole world will rejoice at their deaths. That just goes to show how Godless this world is.

Zarathustra

Who do you think invented GloboHomo “Liberalism”?

Hint: It isn’t Classical Liberalism which enabled modern “liberalism”.

Some comments from viewers:

[PLATO’S CRITIQUE OF DEMOCRACY

“But even democracy ruins itself by excess—of democracy. Its basic principle is the equal right of all to hold office and determine public policy. This is at first glance a delightful arrangement; it becomes disastrous because the people are not properly equipped by education to select the best rulers and the wisest courses. As to the people they have no understanding, and only repeat what their rulers are pleased to tell them. To get a doctrine accepted or rejected it is only necessary to have it praised or ridiculed… Mob-rule is a rough sea for the ship of state to ride; every wind of oratory stirs up the waters and deflects the course. The upshot of such a democracy is tyranny or autocracy; the crowd do loves flattery, it is so ‘hungry for honey’, that at last the idlest and most unscrupulous flatterer, calling himself the ‘protector of the people’ rises to supreme power.” – Plato.

The more Plato thinks of it, the more astounded he is at the folly of leaving to mob caprice and gullibility the selection of political officials—not to speak of leaving it to those shady and wealth-serving strategists who pull the oligarchic wires behind the democratic stage. Plato complains that whereas in simpler matters—like shoe-making—we think only a specially-trained person will serve our purpose, in politics we presume that every one who knows how to get votes knows how to administer a city or a state.

When we are ill we call for a trained physician, whose degree is a guarantee of specific preparation and technical competence—we do not ask for the handsomest physician, or the most eloquent one; well then, when the whole state is ill should we not look for the service and guidance of the wisest and the best? To devise a method of barring incompetence and knavery from public office, and of selecting and preparing the best to rule for the common good—that is the problem of political philosophy.

“But behind these political problems lies the nature of man; to understand politics, we must understand psychology. Like man, like state; governments vary as the characters of men vary ; … , states are made out of the human natures which are in them; the state is what it is because its citizens are what they are. Therefore we need not expect to have better states until we have better men; till then all changes will leave every essential thing unchanged.”
– Plato.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEK4A9hrVjQ

IMHO

We don’t need Plato to tell us the obvious. When you form a government based on lies “We are free and born equal.” and put the duties of governance in the hands of politicians who are looking for votes is bad enough. But they seek votes from an electorate that is only interested in their own gain and are educated by the propaganda of mass media and the deviant entertainment industry.
Add to that the fact that there are no “LAWS” within the foundation and any Godly influence is removed. Well you see what we are reaping.

Domenic Patrone

These violent protests ARE NOT completely about anger directed toward the state because of the killing of black men. They ARE the CULTURAL BEHAVIORS of the African group of subject. These outbursts of looting, burning, robbery, attacks, intimidations, harassments, are the DAY to DAY activities of black men in America in a state of MAGNIFICATION due to the current crisis. Take away the the dead black man, and the protest masses and these PROBLEMS REMAIN unspoken of in America, a land with little discipline really in the end.

RichardD

Magnified view of last night’s rioting.comment image

RichardD

This is the ambush video of the protestors attacking the white motorist’s car as he was driving down the street, of the black protestor trying to extract the motorist from the car and punching the motorist in the face through the driver’s window, and then getting shot by the white motorist before he exited the vehicle and walked to the police station where he was taken into custody. It can be watched in slow motion by clicking on the gear icon and adjusting the playback speed settings.

https://youtu.be/P6dknyrb6fY

Vitex

I think this is all a provocation. See the press cameramen right there, and the pre-empted “Oh God, Oh God…” like he knew what would happen next. And the weird umbrella shit

RichardD

They were trying to get him out of the car before the video started. So they knew that an incident was occuring. If you watch it in slow motion you can see the black protester hanging onto the side of the car and being dragged down the street. Dropping off and then running down the side of the street to resume the attack.

The video has also been edited to cut out and blur evidence of the attack on the motorist. There’s some type of circular black blur filter over the assailant during the attack making it difficult to see him punching the driver in the face. And a section of the video is cut out during the attack.

Vitex

What’s that about “Don’t believe anything you hear and only half of what you see”?

RichardD

This case is a good example of that. The protesters attack the driver’s car damaging it and attacked the driver. And the driver gets charged with assault after being chased by a mob on a public street attacking his vehicle, that he had a right to be on, and getting punched in the face.

“The prosecutor’s office released the following statement Wednesday:

“Although Mr. Fernandez claims to have acted in self-defense, our laws distinguish a person protecting himself from an attack from a person who provoked the attack in the first place. Given the evidence uncovered in the past three days, there is probable cause to believe Mr. Fernandez falls in the latter category.””

– Fundraiser set up for man arrested in Capitol Hill protest shooting –

https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/fundraiser-set-up-man-arrested-capitol-hill-protest-shooting/PFH44W6T6JG6TKCQH6ELHKWULQ/

And the man grabbing the steering wheel and punching the driver in the face didn’t provoke getting shot? And evidently hasn’t been arrested or charged with assaulting the driver. It looks like a case of institutional bias to me.

cechas vodobenikov

children with bad manners vandalizing have zero to with protesting injustice—the unjustified murder of a career criminal w convictions for violent crime —G Floyd is their hero—the autopsy found both methamphetimine and fentynal —likley the police involved in his murder will be acquitted, unless the jurors fear for their lives…would any other group choose such a “hero”?

hvaiallverden

God article, but I must underline the use of narratives as racism, witch is becomed the new anti-semetism, like in Norway, the MSM have just some days ago an article about ISISrael to take the West bank and the paper claimed it was all due to the Palestinians whom got all the faults for it and then because they are anti-semits ( fascinating isnt it) , how the hell is it then possible to twist the facts to be so far out its “impressing” and the comentary fields this days are packed with Brigadeers and Unites in various forms to fight eh…. racism in this suffocating times.

Then have that in you mind when you read this articles, in the MSM, because this is the war on us all and specially white european/american people, even when most of the world wants to come here, weird isnt it, but the acusations is to create polarisations and right now it seems to work perfectly becasue people are dumb, period, spineless and mindless, what could possibly go worng, right.

You know South F. I am not surpriced, maybe by the cause of this eh… protestings/riots, but the extent, nope and its been orcestarted from the begining, do notice the MSM and the so called Left/DemonCrauts, witch have nothing to do with what most of us persive left to be, never forget that, we are after all talking about AmeriCunts are they are so far out into their own idiot bin that any debate of political lines is an waist of time, I can call my self social democrat, national socialistic, and that in most peoples eyes, aka the Moronikas is either you are an commie or an nazi, and then try to debate this people, forget it.

Millenial Mille, undercover inv. the Minneapolis riots was pre-planned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgsnyHILdb8
This Ladys and Gentlemen is an must watch, this video is briliant, tells you everything you need to know, its an whos who in everything, even when they demand you to log in, and is probably blocking this in other nations incl the banana republic.

Then we have the rethoric, anyone whom was against Vaccines, the exsposure of the scamdemic, against the so called refugees, against the AGW swindle, and so on, is/was and right winged white ass sumpremacist, and all those that suported this scams, commies, you see, the names the MSM uses have been slammed on anyone in every consivable direction and means jack shit other than to marginalise people, slamm em into compartements and create an sort of line, and even when you are anti-war, you are an white ass sumpremacist, how the hell do you even take their talks seriously is beyond my imagination, people are simply stupid as f…. this days, and never forget that the MSM always sides with the scumbags, from the economic crash witch began before this CONvid nonsense started and is become much, much worse than what I could even imagine just 6 month ago and the coming ugh…. “second wave” will crush whats left, all because of an swindle, even the Russians have realised that, then came this one, and its been pre-planned for years, and it have all the hall marks of an Color revolution.

My second Video is not aviable since it demands that you logs in so I link to the main site, like Millenial Millies briliant video, witch is also blackfaced, this one is also good, from American Renaissance.
Police racism, an manufactured crisis.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMLbmp5tcLxzahMLTmeM4lg
This gives you the numbers and belive me, this is not going to be televised.

The present debate about govermenting is unbelivable idiotic, race bating, and the war on white people, and we are kissing their asses, washing their feets and apologises for what, something that happened before anyone of us where born, and then we have the use of statistics witch again is been raped to oblivion, because the facts never comes forth, and this forces are using blacks as their cowbar, and I stil dont know what they want.
Because you must never forget this, the so called progresive and liberal, whatever this means, hate facts, truths and above all, been exposed, and the MSM is behind this as it have in countelees other nations and the latest was Bolivia.

peace

kenpachi

lol boogaloo boys. what is that like a year old? I do this everyday and never heard of it. how long? how many members? how many terrorists attacks? wonder if its like the atomwaffen being run by a 14 year old in Estonia. dozens of white identity groups who would be in jail already if they were criminals. rather they have been operating legally for decades. yeah we are willing to water the tree of liberty if we had no choice, is that a crime?

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