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Europe’s Newest “Romance”: Kiev And Ankara Against Peace In Eastern Ukraine

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Europe's Newest "Romance": Kiev And Ankara Against Peace In Eastern Ukraine

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Negotiations on the settlement of the conflict in Eastern Ukraine have come to another standstill, and again it’s come to it due to the activities of Kiev.

The Ukrainian authorities need to start implementing the Minsk agreements to unblock the process, says Oleg Onopko, a deputy of the People’s Council of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic.

Earlier, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said that the situation in the negotiations to resolve the conflict in Donbass resembles a dead end, but the parties need to take steps to unblock the process without crossing the “red lines.”

“The situation at the talks in Minsk not only resembles a dead end – it is a 100% “merit” of the Ukrainian side. Over the entire period of the negotiation process, Kiev has not taken any steps to overcome the impasse, but, on the contrary, systematically brought the situation to the point of absurdity, ignoring all the promising proposals of our side,” Onopko said.

According to him, Kuleba proposes to take steps to unblock the process, but in fact “the Ukrainian side is not planning to take any steps”, demanding this only from the DPR and LPR.

“At the same time, some” action plans “of Kiev are not only ridiculous, but also destructive, fundamentally contradicting the Minsk agreements,” Onopko explained.

And simultaneously, Ukrainian security forces intensified shelling in Eastern Ukraine, the current ceasefire is under threat of failure.

The plenipotentiary of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic in the contact group for Ukraine, DPR Foreign Minister Natalya Nikonorova said on December 4th.

Earlier, the DPR said that the Ukrainian security forces fired on the south of the republic from a 120-mm mortar on Friday morning, two militias were killed.

“On the line of contact, the situation is increasingly aggravating – Kiev has intensified shelling from weapons prohibited by the Minsk agreements. This is confirmed not only by the increase in the number of violations of the ceasefire regime, but also by the caliber of the weapons used,” Nikonorova said.

According to the plenipotentiary representative of the DPR, over the past two months, Ukrainian security forces have fired over 200 shells with calibers of 120 and 82 mm across the republic. Nikonorova recalled that according to the Minsk agreements, tanks, mortars, artillery must be withdrawn from the line of contact.

“We hope that the OSCE SMM (Special Monitoring Mission) in Ukraine and its leader will take the most active position in order to stop the shelling by the armed formations of Ukraine leading to the death of people as soon as possible. In connection with these facts, the current ceasefire is under threat of failure. We demand to proceed as quickly as possible with the approval of the updated package of measures, since Ukraine has withdrawn from the agreement agreed in July 2020,” Nikonorova noted.

Ukraine, however, appears to consider expanding its options, as its “solo efforts” have proved ineffective in completely destroying any hope for a peaceful settlement. It appears, however, that it hopes Turkey would come and help.

Europe's Newest "Romance": Kiev And Ankara Against Peace In Eastern Ukraine

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Unnamed sources in the DPR People’s Militia Department, who were cited by Russian media, said that after Azerbaijan’s victory in Nagorno-Karabakh, Ankara is sending military advisers to Ukraine.

The Turkish generals, together with the Ukrainian General Staff, are allegedly working on an operation to return the self-proclaimed DPR, LPR and even Crimea under Kiev’s control. Perhaps these will be two operations that may not start simultaneously and will take place in reconnaissance mode.

At the same time, “behind enemy lines” it is planned to use Bayraktar TB2 unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) purchased from Turkey according to the scenario of the Karabakh war.

This is quite possible, since Kiev since Azerbaijan’s victory in Nagorno-Karabakh, with quite a bit of help from Turkey has given them the impression that the success could be repeated in Eastern Ukraine.

According to various reports, a hybrid provocation is expected in Eastern Ukraine. And similarly to how it turned out for Azerbaijan, Turkish experts will move in and attain control of the Ukrainian armed forces, and coordinate various movements such as air strikes, likely deploy militants (if it comes to it) and carry out ground strikes.

A quick and adequate response will be required from the Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics.

In case of a delayed reaction of the command of the People’s Militia to the use of UAVs at strong points and defense centers of the Republics, the enemy will attempt to occupy a number of settlements and key heights in order to “level” the line of contact in favor of Kiev.

Of course, defending against it appears all within the realm of possibilities for the republics, since their level of equipment and potential support is much more significant than that of Armenia when it came to Nagorno-Karabakh. Perhaps, from a tactical and operational point of view, such a success will not be so critical for Donetsk and Lugansk, but from the point of view of the information war in Kiev, they will want to turn it into a colossal success.

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Servet Köseoğlu

Well-done Cossack brothers..Everything passes and changes in life..xD
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Nosferatu

So You guys after you opened a war front in Lybia, Syria, Greece, Cyprus, Iraq and Azerbajdzan, are now opening another war front against Russia? No one can be that stupid. Turkey has more front opened than Hitler did. You got yourself encircled. This time Constantinopol will be liberated and Turkey will dissappear.

Servet Köseoğlu

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Nosferatu

Since you know i only told the truth and hve no answer, you have to use some kind of COOL picture. But really if you want to still have your own country, get rid of Erdogan and remove your military forces including support from all abroad counties. Thare is no other option for you Turks.

Servet Köseoğlu

wow..ı even dont know who you are..and noone knows what the truth is…You have to elaborate your opinion…ıraq – russia or greece-russia..what do you mean? Why you can build your bases to abroad while we supposed to remove?

Nosferatu

Was Turkey recently doing military operation in Iraq against the Kurds? Yes it was. Is Turkey escalating ist relations with Greece? Yes it is. Is Turkey now openly supporting UA in its effort to conquer Russian land of Donbass? Yes it is. What is it that you dont understand? Turkey has made all of its neigbours an enemy. Turkey will loose big time this time.

JIMI JAMES

Cia losers are finished, got no facts to substantiate reality,truth is assume turks will fight against chechnyans for khazar gimp is more proof how dumb retarded insolent losers truly are,either way there’s no stopping eurasian transits,reason for everything!comment image

Rhodium 10

But it is more expensive and slow that use Russian railways ( transmongolian route)…train-ship-train( containners loaded and unloaded)….by the way…have you notice that Russia have control of this route through Caspian?…also have troops deployed in South Ossetia ( Georgia) and Martakert ( NK) close to AZ pipelines?…also have deployed S-300V4 ( 400km) in Abjazia, Armenia and South Ossetia which can close Georgian air space?…

BMWA1

NAME of city and pro-RU party wining in the local elections UA? For life? And the locality?

Rhodium 10

Kryvyi RiH…and the winner was pro Russian party OPFL

BMWA1

OK will search on HAW (our) UA…they seem friendly source.

BMWA1

Alt. Ru RoG for RiH

JIMI JAMES

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Cromwell

LOL!!!

JIMI JAMES

Cossacks actually were the workers,mock workers for what lgbtq/cia/incestry is dumb!
Either way there’s no future in fascim nor lgbtq (period) fk hellary,fk clinton,fk bush,fk gimp!

Shlomo Shekelstein

These maidan-degenerates are not Cossacks, Cossacks had 3 enemies: Turks, Poles and Jevvs. And these degenerates from Kiev serve them all.

Here’s their reply from that picture, to the turkish sultan (*great trolling btw)

Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan!

O sultan, Turkish devil and damned devil’s kith and kin, secretary to Lucifer himself. What the devil kind of knight are thou, that canst not slay a hedgehog with your naked arse? The devil shits, and your army eats. Thou shalt not, thou son of a whore, make subjects of Christian sons; we have no fear of your army, by land and by sea we will battle with thee, fuck thy mother.

Thou Babylonian scullion, Macedonian wheelwright, brewer of Jerusalem, goat-fucker of Alexandria, swineherd of Greater and Lesser Egypt, pig of Armenia, Podolian thief, catamite of Tartary, hangman of Kamyanets, and fool of all the world and underworld, an idiot before God, grandson of the Serpent, and the crick in our dick. Pig’s snout, mare’s arse, slaughterhouse cur, unchristened brow, screw thine own mother!

So the Zaporozhians declare, you lowlife. You won’t even be herding pigs for the Christians. Now we’ll conclude, for we don’t know the date and don’t own a calendar; the moon’s in the sky, the year with the Lord, the day’s the same over here as it is over there; for this kiss our arse!

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Servet Köseoğlu

ı know the story hence trolling of letter….ı posted this and put (xD) at the end of my sentence to mock,make fun..Once these Zaporozhian cossacks were enemy of Turks now turns to be friends..thats all..People are meaninglessly attacking to my post as if Ukraine-turkey have a power/potential to grasp Donbass or as if Turkey or Erdo is super-dumb to even think about that..Co-operation in arms industry though ı am suspicious about that..

Shlomo Shekelstein

Yeah, I realize that you (probably) know, that’s why you posted this pic in the first place. But perhaps other people don’t know, and this is such a great letter (perfect for this text) I simply had to post it. The best of XVII century trolling ?

Servet Köseoğlu

thats right..such a vocabulary and using of language..even so called writers can not imagine a text like that…ı love ukranians but their place is with Russia not west..

occupybacon

Sadly, Motorola, Givi and Zakh won’t be able to hear the smooth noise of this new beasts.

Lone Ranger

Neither the 40,000dead ukropnazis and their isis budies.
May they rest in pieces…

AM Hants

Must admit, did chuckle at the ‘May they rest in pieces’.

Cromwell

Some are resting in piss.

AM Hants

Remember the cauldrons so well and Merkel legging it to the Kremlin, so the US would not be able to eavesdrop. Wasn’t she begging President Putin to step in as there were thousands of NATO Forces, stuck in the cauldrons and they did not have enough helicopters, to hide the losses.

This led to the Minsk II Agreements and peace negotiations, with the help of President Putin, Merkel and Hollande. Funny, because wasn’t the German Foreign Minister and the French Foreign Minister, witnesses to the President of Ukraine signing agreements to stand down, and only asked for a peaceful transition, before Russia were rescuing him and his family from an assassination attempt?

What is the missing ingredient in Monsanto-Bayer Products? Is it the blood and guts of late NATO Forces?

Styx

Yes, it is brilliant, isn’t it :) :) ..

AM Hants

Too right ha-ha.

AM Hants

Have you seen this. My OCD post of the day, as happily sharing it.

Facebook Partner, Atlantic Council

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvaesI5nuEI&feature=emb_logo

DC’s Atlantic Council raked in funding from Hunter Biden’s corruption-stained employer while courting his VP father

MAX BLUMENTHAL·JOE BIDENUKRAINE·OCTOBER 13, 2019…

“…Pay-for-play collaborations have helped grow the Atlantic Council’s annual revenue grow from $2 million to over $20 million in the past decade. In almost every case, the think tank has churned out policy prescriptions that seem suited to its donors’ interests.

Government contributors to the Atlantic Council include Gulf monarchies, the US State Department, and various Turkish interests.

In May 2017, Turkish President Recep Erdogan was filmed watching as his personal guards brutalized Kurdish protesters in Washington DC; lost in the headlines was the fact that he was on his way into an event at the Turkish ambassador’s residence hosted by the Atlantic Council…

… Addressing the parliament in Kiev, Biden declared that “corruption can have no place in the new Ukraine,” stating that the “United States has also been a driving force behind the IMF, working to provide a multi-billion package to help Ukraine..”

That same month, Hunter Biden was appointed to the board of Burisma.”

https://thegrayzone.com/2019/10/13/dcs-atlantic-council-raked-in-funding-from-hunter-bidens-corruption-stained-employer-while-courting-his-vp-father/

Styx

Yes, I know – that’s how things are in our most wonderful world, still dominated by the most vicious killer-snake Humanity has ever known or nurtured ..

Better still, papa don biden is proud of it, as one would expect from Papa Don: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/dec/11/joe-biden-hunters-investigations-im-proud-my-son/

AM Hants

Starting with Christmas, this video, courtesy Skoolafish, has put a smile on my face. So sharing the joy.

‘Don’t Worry, Be Happy/Winter Wonderland’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1nQpoAvTSg&feature=emb_logo

Well, now putting on the Gossip Queen head, with vitriol.

With regards Pappa Biden, being proud of his son, I guess old Joe taught him well. Now what was it they found on the laptop, as Joe on stage with young children come to mind? That is before we get onto the close relationship young Hunter had with his niece.

Family Biden and since 1973, when Pappa Joe, arrived on the political scene, how much have they made out of public service and the Biden way of doing politics? No doubt there is a Biden Foundation somewhere, that links in with the Clinton Foundation and partners? There are rumours that wee Hunter has gone a vacation to Cuba and also isn’t Brother James, also being investigated? Then there was the comment from Wee Hunter, or was it a snort, with regards having to give Pappa Joe 50% of his earnings. Nice way to do business, and looks clean, until you go sniffing. Guess it explains a lot, as to why so many politicians, sponsored by so many, to the tune of $US millions, get the kids in on it. I wonder what the percentage is, for ma and pa’s take of the situation?

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Well with regards the mutt in Downing Street, well, besides needing a deep cleanse, hot tub, treatment, where does one start? To be honest, whenever I see that face, ill fitting suit and unkempt haircut, I take straight to the S Bend, where my tonsils have a good chat with the system. The same with Gove, Hancock and Raab, plus, my local MP. Funnily enough, who I used to know as an acquaintance and had no problems with, at the time. It was when I first moved up North and was doing some voluntary work, for an organisation he was involved in.

So going back to the Mutt of Downing Street, I seriously wonder what today will bring with regards the EU sell out? It would not surprise me if we ended up paying £40 billion, with zero rebate, per annum, plus handing over the fishing industry and whatever else they want and for the media to say it was the best deal he could get. Rather than go for the Hard Brexit that we voted for, when given the choice between independence and EU rule. Also, May was meant to have signed us unto the EU Army, whether in or out of the EU, and nobody has said that Boris has pulled our Forces out?

Wasn’t Great Granny Johnson, a Circassians, who were exiled Caucasians or nomadic Turkic tribes? With Great Grandpa Ali Kemal an Ottoman-born Turkish journalist, newspaper editor, poet[. Not forgetting his liberal leaning, political routes. Stanley was over in New York, when Boris was born, although Wiki seems to have changed the script and place him as a student. Leaving out the section, where Boris was educated at the European School of Brussels, before getting a scholarship to Eton, prior to his Bullingdon Club days.
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What do you have to do for a Bullingdon Initiation Acceptance? What was it Cameron was meant to have done? As ‘pigs in blankets’, takes on a different meaning. There again, Cameron has always verbally been on the ‘boaring’ side.

Why do the intelligence services recruit journalists from the Times and Telegraph? What are the links between Murdoch and Great Grandpa Ali Kemal, going back to daddy Murdoch and his times out covering the Ottoman Troubles, back at the end of the 19th century, early 20th century?

Why did the children of Ali Kemal, take the name of their mother (Johnson), instead of their father?

Raab, whose father, of a certain faith, came to the UK from Czechoslovakia, back in 1936, following the Munich Agreement. With Raab, being raised under his mother’s religion. Do believe his parents are no longer alive. A Human Rights Lawyer with Liberty, based over in Brussels, before entering politics. Not the type you would put in the BREXIT Government Cabinet?

Gove, the adopted son of a Scottish Fishermen, who becomes a Scottish Conservative MP, after the Poll Tax scenario???? Times Journalist and Bullingdon Boy.

Matt Hancock, Graduated in politics, spent a short time with the Bank of England, before entering politics.

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Going back to the leader of the Mongrels, why when he was the Foreign Secretary, in charge of intelligence, did he spend so much money on the Russian Disinformation Programme, run by the UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office which happily finances Statecraft/Integrity Initiative/Open Information Partnership/Belingcat/77th Brigade etc, etc, etc. Together with The White Helmets?

Why was the Intelligence Community working with the Clinton Foundation and the ‘Steele Dossier’, to take out Donald Trump?

Why did Boris Johnson turn up in Moscow, for a meeting with Sergey Lavrov, as the UK Foreign Secretary and take time out to place a wreath at the Nemstov Memorial, on the bridge close to the Kremlin?

Wasn’t Boris Foreign Secretary when Porton Down came in handy, when a Russian national and her exiled father were found unconscious on a park bench?

Which takes me back to a previous comment, about those that fund the OPCW Technical Department, which appears to override official and professional OPCW reporting.

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I laughed at the rum advert. Will give it a miss, but, will no doubt end up with a glass of wine, diluted by a lot of soda water or just stick with the coffee, ha-ha.

Christmas greetings and enjoy your orange juice and rejoice that you will not suffer the consequences from that bottle of rum. Hopefully your orange juice will be freshly squeezed.

Styx

I agree.

Papa Joe is a typical US American construct – corrupt and rotten to the core AND preaching Law, Integrity and Justice.

Hilarious it would’ve been, if not so utterly disgusting ..

AM Hants

I must admit, I keep singing ‘It ain’t all over till the fat lady sings’, as I watch what is happening in the US.

They say, ‘where is the evidence’, yet, no no court of law, from the most basic to the highest, in the land, is willing to hear the evidence.

Affidavits – by the hundreds, are ignored.
Dominion – instruction manual, which states all that you can do with the machines. Including ‘off-site takeover’, remove votes from one candidate and give them to another, how to print your own ballots, including with just one named candidate and vote. Plus, so much more.

BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: Dominion Voting Machines Have the Ability to Create Ballots!… https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/breaking-exclusive-dominion-voting-machines-ability-create-ballots/

Michigan Politicians Continue to Prevent the Release of Information of the IT Forensic Investigation of the Dominion Voting Machine in Antrim County… https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/michigan-politicians-continue-prevent-release-information-forensic-investigation-dominion-voting-machine-antrim-county/

The fact that they can just do what they want and there is no opposition to any of it. The DoJ, sat on the Hunter Biden Laptop and did not want anything to come out, should it harm the election.

The DoJ sat on the Durham Report, into ‘Russia Gate’, not wanting it to come out, just in case it affected the election.

How much did the DoJ spend on the Mueller report and how long ago?

So if Basement Biden does get in, ‘Russia Gate’, ‘Biden Laptop, ‘Clinton E Mails’ all disappear.

The MSM – biggest cheerleaders for the Democrats.

Rinos and Dems – who only voice that Trump should concede. Including the Rino’s, that only got voted back in, owing to the Trump Bounce.

People are still coming out for Trump, cheering for him and refusing to give up. Plus, the pure fury of the fact that their vote means absolutely nothing. Together with the vote that is due in January, to decide who will and will not run The Senate. There again, does it make any difference, when you look at how the Supreme Court Judges behave. Only two, went with the Constitution, with regards the Texas case. The other, if you are Dems, do what you want and we will fully support you. How on earth can you rule a nation, with no legal system? Whatever party you vote for.

There are a few stories over on ‘Before It’s News’ and sometimes you get a few gems amongst the trash. If it is true, and they have opened up Gitmo, it will be interesting. Plus, there is a lot of work to do between now and January 19th. One side of me says be patient, as he is exposing everything, and leaving nothing lying dormant, ready to creep back, when everything dies down. The other side of me, is how far are people willing to be played? Think I am 51% with ‘patience’.

The weird thing, is why am I so animated with regards the US, when I have no particular views on Trump, besides a decent comic?

I would be the same with the Russian elections, but, lack the passion for other nations. Do believe, it is owing to how it pans out in the US, and the fact that it will reflect on whether the globalists have won or lost and how it affects us all. Not a fan of the ‘RESET’.

AM Hants

Trump turnouts, and how many turn up for Biden? Yet, Biden allegedly got all the votes?????

Trump is greeted with a standing ovation as he tosses the coin for the Army-Navy football game at West Point and watches with cadets and midshipmen in the crowd
Army Black Knights and Navy Midshipmen faced off in their 121st meeting on Saturday
The game was not held on neutral ground for the first time since WWII, due to pandemic restrictions
Usual venue in Philadelphia cannot host due to restrictions on crowd sizes from Pennsylvania governor
At West Point, only midshipmen and cadets were allowed to attend the venerated contest
The Army defeated the Navy 15-0 on Saturday. They will play against the Air Force on December 19 to determine who wins the Commander-in-Chief’s Trophy, which was won by Navy last year
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9046871/President-Trump-arrives-121st-Army-Navy-football-game.html

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Trump supporters chant ‘destroy the GOP’ at a rally in Washington DC, after Republican officials in Georgia refused to back the president’s bid to overturn the election… https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/trump-supporters-chant-destroy-the-gop-at-a-rally-in-washington-dc-after-republican-officials-in-georgia-refused-to-back-the-president-s-bid-to-overturn-the-election/ar-BB1bTfEy?oci_d=mailsignout++

AM Hants

But they died ‘ national legends,’ will you?

By the way, have NATO come back to pick up those that are assisting Monsanto-Bayer and their compost project, over at Donetsk Airport and in the old cauldrons? How many kiddies as still asking there mummies, when Daddy will be coming home, as there bodies decompose around Donetsk? Or how many kiddies, will be asking their daddies when their NATO mummies will be coming home?

occupybacon

Not as many kiddies as those asking why Putin didn’t save their ‘legendary heroes’ parents. Putin will eventually come at night to lick their bellies.

AM Hants

Darling, riddle me this: Is President Putin the President of Russia or Ukraine?

Why did the President of Ukraine send his forces after the elderly, infirm, disabled and mothers and young children of Ukraine? I still remember the photo of the young woman, with her toddler, decapitated by her Government.

When Donetsk voted, did the majority vote to be ruled by Russia, Ukraine or to become an independent autonomous Federation? They voted, using the self determination argument, just we did in the UK, when we voted for BREXIT and the Scottish Referendum, just like the US did, when they voted for their independence on 4 July 1776, from Great Britain. The people of Donetsk voted to become an Independent Autonomous Federation. Russia provided aid, unlike the European neighbours, who sent in covert NATO Forces.

occupybacon

Blah blah blah. Tell me about the kiddies that ask their parents why putin doesn’t accept Donbas in Russia.

AM Hants

Because, unlike Crimea, the people of Donbass voted to become an Independent Autonomous Federation. The people of Crimea voted to return home to Russia. He went with the will of the people, in accordance with self determination laws. How many nations besides Russia have sent Aid to the people of Donbass and how many nations have sent lethal weapons to Kiev, to use on the people of Donbass?

occupybacon

Putin said multiple times that Russia will not accept Donbas. That’s home for terrorism, and if ant terrorist leader says otherwise his coffee cup explodes in his mouth.

AM Hants

Is that why Russia has provided so many Russian passports to the people of Donbass? Now remind me, what have NATO member states provided? Oh yes, the lethal weapons, for Kiev to use on the people of Donbass. Who voted to be an Independent Autonomous Federation, not part of Russia or Governed by Ukraine.

President Putin, would not use the words you use, on the people of Donbass. For the head chopping, organ eaters, and their Atlantic Council funded terrorist tours, well that is different.

occupybacon

NATO provides Ukraine inteligence tech to catch Russian spies. As for the organ eaters I remember Putin eating little boy’s belly :)

AM Hants

Tell me about the morons that tried to enter Russia from Eastern Ukraine, courtesy of the SBU and friends? Not nice the photo on South Front, of the youngster, in full uniform, lying in the mud. Why did his/her mates run and leave him/her and flee back to Ukraine? If it was a male soldier, he did look quite feminine, so unsure as to gender.

occupybacon

Hahaha. Someone that wants to trespass a border dressed military. Only a Ruskie can believe such story. The corpse was advanced putrefied when photographed, especially during this cold weather. Did they left it a week in the mud?

viktor ziv

Nah, UA has no money. Once biggest army in Europe (beside Rus) is fallen. UA is selling land, fertile land. So, the last chance to feed Europe is gone. Turks are not stupid to give hardware into the UA void. Man can go to UA and see midle age in 21st century. reliquiae reliquiarum of soviet times in just 30 years. Nothing even to pillage for mercenaries.

occupybacon

Same in Russia. I stumble Russian sites innenglish, pretty much sums your description. As fir the money for drones, NATO will find some change in a back pocket.

viktor ziv

Negatory mate. i had privilege to visit Moscow three times, St. Petersburg also. Those cities are way beyond EU trash. If You get a chance, visit Brussel, the capital of so called EU. Nothing but a trash, was there, and will never come back. Wasted money on trash, mate, worse decision of my life.

occupybacon

I agree, these two cities are the cream of Russia. How about the rural Russia comparing to rural EU or US?

Robert Ferrin

All fine men to bad your demise won’t bring the same instead of ah good another troll has met his end good riddance.!!!

occupybacon

Your wishful thinking honours me. But their comrades have the chance to share them the stories about merciless whisperers of the drones.

Cromwell

Difference between the Nazi filth in Kiev and those guys is they will always be heroes,the scum in kiev will be like yesterdays chip paper.if you want some more of this motherfucker try something in Donbass.
https://youtu.be/H2NeXrUgfco?t=14

AM Hants

Slightly off topic, but, same characters involved and all part of the larger story, as I go on a waffle. The middle part of the waffle, mainly relates to OPCW confirming the contributions of various nations. Funny how Russia is missing, with regards donating to the OPCW for biased opinion. The last part of the comment, is a link into an. interesting OPED, over on Russia Today, with regards the White Helmets Founder old James Le Mesurier. Now whatever happened to him and why did they need to take him out?

OPCW director worried truth about Syria ‘chemical attack’ report would feed ‘Russian narrative’
https://www.rt.com/news/508957-opcw-whistleblower-emails-russia/

This article reminded me of the Joint Investigative Mechanism and besides the EU, how 12 other nations funded the JIM. Twelve out of the 193 UN Member States. Which made me wonder who was funding what came after JIM, as memories of John Bolton, the US Ambassador to the UN, back in 2003, kindly told the Director of the OPCW what was going to happen, reminding him, that they knew where the children were, if he did not go along with Saddam and his WMD’s. Remember Colin Powell, in the UN, with the fake vial of anthrax? What were the reasons for the Iraq War and were they based on truth?

So which nations are providing support to the OPCW and does this have anything to do with why they wish to remove any evidence of conflicting opinions?

How many MEPs over in the EU Parliament are funded by $oro$

Why does the Open Society Foundation, whom Malloch Brown will soon be leading, donate to the Atlantic Council, the NATO Administration ‘Think Tank’?

Why has $oro$ invested in The Hague, which appears to be under the control of a Hungarian, born of Zionist faith, and who found the best times of his life were back in 1944, when he openly admits he was a Nanzi Collaborator??? What was the Hague set up for and why is a Nanzi supporter running it? (60 Minutes – 20 December 1998, $oro$ happily brags about those times).

The International Criminal Court is an Open Society Organization run by George Soros…. https://www.wecumedia.com/post/the-international-criminal-court-is-an-open-society-organization-run-by-george-soros

No wonder MH17 never got a fair trial. Plus, why is Malloch Brown, the CEO of one of the companies behind the Vote Count Servers, Smartmatic (Dominion – Skytl), now due to run the $oro$ Open Society Foundation? What will those Frankfurt servers show?
Doesn’t $oro$ also control most Human Rights Groups, including Amnesty International? Again, why would a Nanzi sympathiser being running Human Rights Groups?
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European Union Contributes €11.6M to Support OPCW Laboratory and Equipment Store into a new OPCW Centre for Chemistry and Technology

“…Moreover, the European Union has made a contribution toward upgrading the current OPCW Laboratory and Equipment Store into a new OPCW Centre for Chemistry and Technology. The new facility will help meet the demands of OPCW Member States for enhanced verification tools, improved detection capabilities and response measures, as well as increased capacity-building activities…”

4 APRIL 2019… Ohttps://www.opcw.org/media-centre/news/2019/04/european-union-contributes-eu116m-support-opcw-activitiesPCW Activities

News: OPCW Centre for Chemistry and Technology
https://www.opcw.org/media-centre/news/category/1374
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Canada Contributes CAD $7.5M to Future OPCW Centre for Chemistry and Technology… https://www.opcw.org/media-centre/news/2018/10/canada-contributes-cad-75m-future-opcw-centre-chemistry-and-technology

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USA Contributes $7M to Future OPCW Centre for Chemistry and Technology…. https://www.opcw.org/media-centre/news/2020/11/usa-contributes-7m-future-opcw-centre-chemistry-and-technology
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Netherlands Contributes €3.3 Million to Support OPCW Activities and Centre for Chemistry and Technology… https://www.opcw.org/media-centre/news/2019/11/netherlands-contributes-eu33-million-support-opcw-activities-and-centre
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Canada Contributes CAD 2,500,000 to Future OPCW Centre for Chemistry and Technology… https://www.opcw.org/media-centre/news/2020/09/canada-contributes-cad-2500000-future-opcw-centre-chemistry-and
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Japan Contributes €2.4M to Future OPCW Centre for Chemistry and Technology… https://www.opcw.org/media-centre/news/2019/02/japan-contributes-eu24m-future-opcw-centre-chemistry-and-technology
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Belgium Contributes €2M to Future OPCW Centre for Chemistry and Technology… https://www.opcw.org/media-centre/news/2018/10/belgium-contributes-eu2m-future-opcw-centre-chemistry-and-technology
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United Kingdom Contributes £1.1M to Support OPCW Activities, including Future Centre for Chemistry and Technology… https://www.opcw.org/media-centre/news/2019/04/united-kingdom-contributes-ps11m-support-opcw-activities-including-future
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Germany Contributes €500,000 to Future OPCW Centre for Chemistry and Technology… https://www.opcw.org/media-centre/news/2020/11/germany-contributes-eu500000-future-opcw-centre-chemistry-and-technology
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Switzerland Contributes CHF 300,000 to Support OPCW Activities and Centre for Chemistry and Technology…. https://www.opcw.org/media-centre/news/2020/01/switzerland-contributes-chf-300000-support-opcw-activities-and-centre
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Finland Contributes €200,000 to Support OPCW Activities and Centre for Chemistry and Technology… https://www.opcw.org/media-centre/news/2020/07/finland-contributes-eu200000-support-opcw-activities-and-centre-chemistry
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Australia Contributes AUD 200,000 to Future OPCW Centre for Chemistry and Technology… https://www.opcw.org/media-centre/news/2020/06/australia-contributes-aud-200000-future-opcw-centre-chemistry-and
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Norway Announces €100,000 Voluntary Contribution to OPCW’s Trust Fund for Syria Missions… https://www.opcw.org/media-centre/news/2019/01/norway-announces-eu100000-voluntary-contribution-opcws-trust-fund-syria
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South Korea Contributes $150,000 to Support OPCW Activities…. https://www.opcw.org/media-centre/news/2020/06/australia-contributes-aud-200000-future-opcw-centre-chemistry-and

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Republic of Korea Contributes €100,000 to Future OPCW Centre for Chemistry and Technology, €20,000 to Peaceful Use of Chemistry Workshop… https://www.opcw.org/media-centre/news/2020/10/republic-korea-contributes-eu100000-future-opcw-centre-chemistry-and
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New Zealand Contributes €100,000 to Future OPCW Centre for Chemistry and Technology… https://www.opcw.org/media-centre/news/2019/09/new-zealand-contributes-eu100000-future-opcw-centre-chemistry-and
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Indonesia Contributes RP 165,000,000 to Future OPCW Centre for Chemistry and Technology…. https://www.opcw.org/media-centre/news/2020/06/indonesia-contributes-rp-165000000-future-opcw-centre-chemistry-and
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Andura, Bangladesh, Chile, China, Czech Republic, Greece, Israel (despite Israel not ratifying the OPCW Treaty and being exempt from having chemical or nuclear weapons), Kazakhstan, Ireland, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Pakistan, Peru, Portugal, Romania, Slovenia, Turkey, United Arab Emirates.

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Out of curiousity, why are many of those nations, who fund the OPCW Centre for Chemistry and Technology, also funding the White Helmets?

White Helmet Funding

British Foreign Office – 2016 – $32 million

British Foreign Office – 2017 – 2018 – 24 million

British Foreign Office – 2014-2015 – $24 million

US Aid (USAID $oro$ linked) – 2013-2015 – $23 million

Germany 2016 – $7.6 million

EU – 2015 – $4.5 million

Netherlands 2015 – $4.5 million

Jo Cox Fund (UK politician, taken out, the day after Bob Geldof and her ex-Save The Children, husband and two sons were out on the River Thames, mocking the UK Fishermen and Nigel Farage, during the BREXIT campaign. Why would the husband authorise the payment of $2.4 million to the White Helmets, in her memory?) – 2016 – $2.4 million

Undisclosed sums to the White Helmets from the following nations:

Denmark

Qatar

Japan

DG Echo – DG For European Civil Protection and Humanitarian Aid Operations the integrity and dignity.

Website donations

Crowd Funding

Talking of the White Helmets, what ever happened to James Le Mesurier, who founded them? I wonder why they wished to take him out, over in Turkey?

White Helmets founder Le Mesurier is now a mainstream saint, but leaked docs raise questions about his widow’s role…

“…The documents imply witness and forensic evidence contradicting the notion a chemical weapons attack occurred in Douma, excluded from the OPCW’s final report on the incident, was collected in Turkey. The BBC’s radio series on Mayday confirmed this evidence was provided to investigators by Le Mesurier and the White Helmets.

While the OPCW website makes no reference to this assistance, not merely in respect of the Douma investigation but its probes of at least three other alleged government chemical weapon attacks in Syria, in June 2018 Mayday’s deep and cohering ties with the organization were exposed by none other than Emma Winberg.

Speaking at an Atlantic Council event alongside Bellingcat founder and chief Eliot Higgins, she described how the Helmets had in 2015 specifically been provided with OPCW-standard training and equipment to collect samples from the scenes of airstrikes for the organization. The ease with which this privileged position could be abused was apparently not considered, or indeed of no concern…”

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/508929-white-helmets-founder-le-mesurier

FlorianGeyer

You comments are as incisive as ever, AM. Bravo.

Will the current cult of Western Exceptionalism in the age of fantastical Covid emerge as the tyrannical victors for a period, or will they make such a mess of Covid that there will be a pan-national revolt against all the restrictions that even the over 80’s will support?

AM Hants

Cheers Florian. Do wonder, when I go on ‘waffle rant’, if anybody is interested. However, does not stop me waffling on ha-ha.

With regards CV and insanity, well, do they ever get anything right? I was just reading some Gateway Pundit article and whilst reading, I was thinking they always get it wrong, basically by assuming they know best, having zero debate, unless discussing things with likeminded people. So there is no opposition to the mind mapping and the pros and cons have never been discussed.

The article that triggered the thought, I think was the woman who shut down one of the US counting areas, telling everybody to get out, whilst her friends came out to play and all of a sudden ‘Basement Biden’ went from zero to hero of the history of the US Presidential Elections. Would you believe over 80 million turned out to vote for ‘Basement Biden’ haha? Whilst I ramble, I was watching Trump in Georgia and was quite shocked at the volume of the crowds. Considering the MSM tell us nobody likes him. Then the following day, old Nanzi Pelosi, has said she is going to Georgia, for a rally in support of the two Dems that are running. Well, I cracked up laughing, at the thought of her wig and dentures, down in Georgia, expecting the same turnup that Trump gets.

Anyway, going back to your question, I do believe it is all going to go ‘tits up’. Florida want evidence as to what the PCR tests actually show. Reiner Muellrich is meant to be providing us info on the German Law Suit and how it revolves around Crimes Against the word beginning with H. Plus, over on Before Its News (yep, you get some strange articles over there, but, also, others with interesting facts), well there are some interesting videos. Simon Parkes interests me, plus, there is another guy, who is quite easy on the eyes and so easy, that I forget what he goes by. Anyway, the pair of them have been chatting about what is happening, that we do not know about, including the Frankfurt servers, Gina Ha skell and what is hopefully due to take place. If Donnie, manages to get the jigsaw in place and arrests are made, then that brings the ‘house of cards’ around CV, tumbling down. They cannot have the reset without the US on board, and the CV scam, is all part of the reset.

There again, could be wrong, but, have you noticed that everytime the party of Mr Blobby, or should that be Globby, get so far and then it all goes wrong. It happens time and time again and looks like they only have one script to learn.

Saying that, it does make sense, about the one script. When I was at Uni, and I so was not a model student, what got me, was the awful social science section of the course, could only focus on assignments, that we had to answer, using the voice of Bernay. Can you imagine it, having to write an assignment, using the voice of Mr 19th Century?????? What I could not get my head around, is if they were so focused on 19th psychoanalysts and propaganda merchants, then how on earth could we move on? I wanted to write in my own voice, not as a literate ventriloquist dummy, with god knows whose hand operating my pen, via the back passage. Seriously not an Academic, and do believe in supply and demand, and not Social Science Overload Academics.

Talking about the pan-national revolt, have you seen the DM today? The Hancock clone, crying because his 90 year old granny managed to get the latest vaccination????? Politicians crying as the ‘lunatics have taken over the asylum’.. Must admit I liked the Californian Protesters, down on the beach, completely ignoring their Governor and his lockdown demands.

FlorianGeyer

RT news today reported on the US Federal authority for Disease Control ( FDC).
The FDC has just released their assessment of the Pfizer vaccine.
In the total 3700 ish test group there were six deaths. None of which were in the 50% placebo group. That 10 deaths in every 100,000 (if my math is correct !) PLUS an undisclosed number of guinea pigs who suffered from a facial palsy , LOL. No mention of this on the BBC so far. That being the case, taking the vaccine is a greater risk than doing buggerall :)

I was also amused to read in the Daily Telegraph that HMS The Prince of Wales will not be going on a £2 million pounds exercise to play with F35’s in the US next year, and there will be a UK exercise instead.
The hilarious part of all of this is the FACT that HMS Prince of Wales has sprung a leak in the engine room. The Queen Elizabeth had a major leak as well a couple or so years ago. The Prince of Wales is set to be docked for 6 months of major repairs as electrical systems were ruined, LOL.

MSM half truths are so easy to debunked these days and the MSM morons are still in an echo chamber as you allured to.

I am sure that the Pfizer issue will soon make NHS staff question the wisdom of having a NEW type of vaccine that was bought to market in months.
Giving rge vaccine to the Nearly Dead in old folks homes etc could just be the death knell for Boris and his medic’s.

Oh Frabjous Day :)

AM Hants

More d aths from the vaccine than the virus. Daily Mail have said two NHS workers had anaphylactoid problems, owing to allergies. There is some Health Committee who have published not to have vaccine if you are known to react to vaccines.

When you mentioned Prince of Wales, automatically assumed Charlie Boy and Lizzie had problems with their waterworks, as catheters and NATO strength pampers came to mind, ha-ha. Used to live not far from Portsmouth, before moving up North and old Lizzie was having a refit before she was commissioned. Remember my husband saying about the problems they had with the French Charles De Gaulle carrier, when they first said the Aircraft carrier contract would be split between UK and France. He didn’t think the sections would align. Looks like he was right and not a good look.

When does either ship get the planes? Aren’t they both missing them?

I can see the PoW doing the dinghy run, between Dover and Calais, to compensate for the US jolly, haha.

FlorianGeyer

It all begs the question, What on gods earth are 20 year old NHS staff having a covid jab for when the chance of a 20 year old dying is as rare as an honest answer from a politician in the UK.

The best thing about UK weapon procurement is that the UK could realisticly win a shooting war with Russia or China, and has failed to suppress the Taliban in afghanistan for over 20 years.

As you say, all the UK navy is capable of are beating up Somali fishermen etc and ‘practising’ being rescued at sea whilst the army ‘practices’ wild camping on exercises in Eastern Europe, along with the RAF who practice how to eject from an F35 at home and abroad. :)

The UK cyber warfare warriors will ‘practice’ how to turn defeat into a victory, as was the case with the rout and rescue of British troops at Dunkirk.

OR was the abandonment of ALL the weaponry bigger than a rifle of the British Expeditionary Force of 420,843 men in 1939 France just a ‘cunning plan to fool the Germans? :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Expeditionary_Force_(World_War_II)

“About 700 tanks, 20,000 motor bikes, 45,000 cars and lorries, 880 field guns and 310 larger equipments, about 500 anti-aircraft guns, 850 anti-tank guns, 6,400 anti-tank rifles and 11,000 machine-guns were abandoned.”

Lions without big brains led by Twats with pea brains far smaller than a Lion brain. ?)

AM Hants

Were they 20 year old youngsters? I wonder if they were Care Home workers, as aren’t over 90s, living in care and the carers first in the queue? Can understand that happening, more than hospital staff, owing to all they have had to go through in the past 9 months.

Can you imagine how those that sacrificed their lives, for our futures, are looking down, with tears flowing, at the mess we have made of things.

I was watching a video of Hancock in Westminster, giving a speech to the ten that turned up. It was like being in a Japanese Prisoner of War Camp, back in the 40s, trying to watch it. They all suck upto each other,. Compliments then kindergarten questions. Him telling the audience only positive tales can be told. His face so blank and he could not even answer a question. Not that it mattered as there are no listening skills in Parliament, so they never noticed their questions were not being answered.

If only Guy Faulkes was still around. Is it me, getting old, but I cannot take Judges, solicitors or politicians seriously and just wish they were all tried for treason or at least had some form of maturity about them. Not in age, just mental maturity.

FlorianGeyer

I may be wrong, but although the over 85’s were finally said to be first in line, the ‘next day’ the reality of storing the vaccine at -80C struck the gung-ho gang in parliament, and the NHS was put in the firing line, along with a collection of 90 year olds for propaganda purposes :)

It’s a fact that in periods when ALL the organs of state are co-opted into a political or criminal cult, that the rulers have absolute power.

Such power can only be taken away by fire and fury when conditions become intolerable. Although this can take a long time.

AM Hants

Ralph has given me a brilliant link to the FDA paper, relating to the vaccine. If interested, check out from Page 80. Page 80 list of contra-indications and then followed by charts showing percentages, during various post stages. Bear in mind those we elect and who get their daily media interview fix, should have read the paper. However, should have and have had, are two completely different things.

https://www.fda.gov/media/144246/download

The FDA Government Document goes well with the Corona Investigative Committee Video, agains, thanks Ralph, for the link.

Corona Committee – Evidence Gathering…. https://vimeo.com/487879592

FlorianGeyer

Thank you ,AM. I have saved the video and link.

I would suspect that the saying, ‘Act in haste and repent at leisure’ will haunt the hapless politicians who rode on the Scamdemic gravy train to be harshly punished by electorates in the future.

There is of course the fact that the US ( and others) prefer to create a fake alternative reality, where the Media plays its part in censorship.
This sort of deceit has always been so, particularly with cults, religions, political expedience, or otherwise.

I hope I am wrong, and that the takers of the Pfizer vaccine are not harmed in any meaningful and lasting way, of course.

I would not bet on success though. Short, medium or longterm.

Styx

“The best thing about UK weapon procurement is that the UK could realisticly win a shooting war with Russia or China.”

Not even that, unless you meant it sarcastically.

Comparatively speaking, British Navy ships are so poorly armed that Russia is fully justified in saying that British Navy vessels should not even consider coming anywhere near their Russian counterparts.

But then again, reality never deterred mentally retarded specimens like Michael Fallon who once expressed confidence that Britain will be in a position to fight with Russia within two years if sticks to spending more on military hardware. The Russian Bear prone to hibernating after all.

As if ..

FlorianGeyer

Yes, I was being sarcastic , as the record of UK weapon procurement is geared to buying US over priced and inefficient systems such as the US F35 and by building its own aircraft carriers that leak and do not have universal launch capability system’s that would cater for the use of other types of aircraft when the ‘Shit hits the fan’ as it invariably does in combat. :)

I actually feel more secure in the knowledge that only the UK military capabilities in wars of words from the semi-literate military propaganda gamers are the meme of the current times.

FlorianGeyer

What are your plans for your Bubble over Christmas, AM.

With all my cards I sent an old fashioned kids Bubble Blower in a tube filled with bubble liquid. :)

AM Hants

My son has invited me to join his family Christmas Day. And I am officially part of the bubble. He is virtually tea total and even with soda water in the wine, I get tiddled after the first large glass. I have hardly touched alcohol this year as partner in crime is still down South and so miss the fun and laughter that goes with the pair of us and a bottle of wine.

Son hates it if I have been drinking, plus he hates sequins and I can’t live without sequins, especially on Christmas Day or a drink on Christmas Day. So fun and laughter will be cancelled and I will be down on my knees playing with three year old grandson. Who enjoys me playing the big bad wolf and don’t ask, with a confused Labrador wondering why I am on all fours, huffing and puffing.

Actually you saying about sending bubbles, so need one of those large hamster bubbles that humans play in and do believe it would be ideal for the grandson and escape from being stuck indoors.

Will you spoil Hans on Christmas Day? Give him a carrot from me. Have a wonderful Christmas.

FlorianGeyer

I can sympathise with your son as I am 99.9% teetotal . The most booze I drink is a splash of beer in a glass of lemonade whilst having a curry.
Never been drunk in my life, thanks to my grandmother who advised me not to drink when I was in my early teens as my grandfather, who died before I was born, had been an amateur boxer in ths younger years, and was too handy with his fists when drunk. :)

Hans has carrots most days :) But I will tell him that yours is a really special carrot from Waitrose. Harrods is too tacky these days.

AM Hants

Both my son’s have never bothered with either alcohol or drugs. Told them both their dad and me had addictive personalities, which they would likely inherit, which was true and they never bothered. Apart from the Odd drink now and then. The youngest is seriously into sports, which also keeps away from alcohol. Me, if I am with with friends drinking, I will join in, but, otherwise not bothered. Although I do miss having fun and mischief with a good friend from down South.

Glad Hans prefers carrots from Waitrose, than the grocers in Knightsbridge, ha-ha. Have you anything planned for Christmas?

FlorianGeyer

Nothing at all planned. I live in a small bubble :) Twill be interesting to see what the masses do. If they don’t invade the restaurants with noisy kids I may go out for a Christmas Turkey Curry.
Hans has said that he’s not lugging a bloody sleigh around even if Boris asks. He has offered though to let Matt Hancock sit on his saddle as long as hancock is safely tied to a tree branch with a noose around his neck :)

AM Hants

Nice one Hans.

FlorianGeyer

He’s a very clever chap.

AM Hants

Have you seen this video?

Facebook Partner, Atlantic Council
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvaesI5nuEI&feature=emb_logo

DC’s Atlantic Council raked in funding from Hunter Biden’s corruption-stained employer while courting his VP father
MAX BLUMENTHAL·JOE BIDENUKRAINE·OCTOBER 13, 2019…

“…Pay-for-play collaborations have helped grow the Atlantic Council’s annual revenue grow from $2 million to over $20 million in the past decade. In almost every case, the think tank has churned out policy prescriptions that seem suited to its donors’ interests.

Government contributors to the Atlantic Council include Gulf monarchies, the US State Department, and various Turkish interests.

In May 2017, Turkish President Recep Erdogan was filmed watching as his personal guards brutalized Kurdish protesters in Washington DC; lost in the headlines was the fact that he was on his way into an event at the Turkish ambassador’s residence hosted by the Atlantic Council…

… Addressing the parliament in Kiev, Biden declared that “corruption can have no place in the new Ukraine,” stating that the “United States has also been a driving force behind the IMF, working to provide a multi-billion package to help Ukraine..”

That same month, Hunter Biden was appointed to the board of Burisma.”

https://thegrayzone.com/2019/10/13/dcs-atlantic-council-raked-in-funding-from-hunter-bidens-corruption-stained-employer-while-courting-his-vp-father/

FlorianGeyer

The abuse of power is nothing new of course. What is new are the advanced powers of communications that serve the power hungry, BUT 21st century communications have been a far greater benefit for all of the general public who seek diverse opinions and evidence .

The Atlantic Council has based it’s cult like propaganda on Crying Wolf at all criticism of the Council.
However, the absurdity of cults based on Joint Narratives’ are as absurd today as they were during the history of all power cults.

The result of the exposure of power groups has always been the repression of their subjects by the use of Fear.
Funnily enough we are is one of those situations now, as some of us realise.
Internment camps and wealth confiscation are all a distinct possibility now, I think, AM.

We are NOT in uncharted waters.

AM Hants

With you saying about the internment camps and wealth confiscation I can so see it. Funnily enough, I was walking home the other night, lost in my own little world and wondering how I would handle an internment camp, worse case scenario. At the end of the day, it won’t make me stop laughing or losing my sense of humour, as one always has Plan B to fall back on and my own mortality does not bother me.. Anyway, I could see how you would end up there, and before you knew it. Especially when you look at the speed of how things developed this year.

I do find it ironic, that the same people who happily embrace 1930s Germany, are the last ones that would ever admit it. If only Adolf had the cretins we elect, at his side in the 40s, he might not have had to wait until the EU came along and carried out his wishes. They never did find his DNA did they, as Operation Paperclip so comes to mind. Why would he miss out on the boat ride?

However, every time we are almost in the position to destroy the planet, something happens, that leads us back to sanity. From century to century it is basically the same script running.

FlorianGeyer

A practical consequence of being interned would be the inability to pay bills or to personally manage ones affairs etc.

After the start of the US/Japanese war , the US interned many thousands of Japanese civilians of Japanese Descent from several US states, who were born in the US. The assets of these Japanese were effectively lost.

https://ivypanda.com/essays/japanese-americans-internment-during-the-wwii/#:~:text=%20Japanese%20Americans%20Internment%20During%20the%20WWII%20Essay,impacts%3A%20As%20a%20result%20of%20the…%20More%20

“Upon release, most their business have been destroyed, as was the case with their homes. The meager compensation of twenty thousand dollars for each of the survivors cannot be equated to five years of internment and lost property.”

Lone Ranger

No use to negotiate with cia/soros run ukropnazi terrorists they only understand brute force.

Ice Icegold

Brute force is what Turkey only understand also.

AM Hants

So does Turkey seriously want to take on Russia? When we all saw what happened when Turkey took down the Russian military jet and then had to go begging to Russia, when the tourists stopped arriving in Turkey?

How many more NATO member states will be turning up in non-NATO Ukraine?

Whilst thoughts of Turkey and the Black Sea come to mind, does Turkey not remember the history behind the 1936 Montreux Convention and the specific reasons that the US is not a member? Believe it or not, it does all fit in to the above, with regards, Turkey always ends up running back to Russia, when in trouble.

Rhodium 10

if Russia have not taken all east Ukraine is because EU and Germany in fact allowed Nord stream 2 construction despite Ukraine Issue and USA rejects..please dont be naive…if Russia want to take all east Ukraine only in few days have troops in Dnieper river and population there will cheer them ( days ago a pro Russian party won an elections in a city of Dnipropetrovsk Oblast) as many of them are Russian ethics…!..you must see what happened in libya ( not in NK where Lumberjacks army had no choice)..in Libya..GNA failed to retake Sirte because Russia deployed Pantsir under Russian Wagner PMC crew( not LNA) and all Turkish drones were shot down…later MiG 29 launched KH-31 Kripton and destroyed a Hawk system included radars and and Koral EWS in al Wattiya….days after a SU 24 launched KH-59 destroyed an hangar in Misrata airbase…and end of GNA dreams to retake Sirte and oil resources!

AM Hants

I am not being naive asking if Turkey seriously wants to take on Russia?

Might have phrased the section relating to the Russian military jet, but, meant how long did it take Turkey to beg forgiveness? Same as how long did it take Saakashvili to beg for a ceasefire, after 3 hours of the Russian escort back in 2008?

Icarus Tanović

Ethnic.

Jack Bauer

Kiev must be attacked. Playing defensive has gotten Putin jack sh.it. Armenia stolen, Iraq Stolen, Afghanistan Stolen, Libya Stolen, Syrian half Stolen, Ukraine Stolen, Belarus almost Stolen. At a certain point a man has to be a Man and defend what is his by right.

Alberto Garza

is iraq a part of russia ? i think i missed geography class

Rhodium 10

Nothing will happen…I remember when Putin days before Football world cup told to journalist when he asked him if Ukraine would launch a military operation to retake Donbass during world cup…Putin said…”It that case it will be the end of Ukraine state”…

viktor ziv

“Debalcevo cordon” version 2.0 on the way.

Cromwell

They sound like they are living on fantasy Island.

Shlomo Shekelstein

Turks are irrelevant, joo-clown zelenclownsky (Porky 2.0) & the rest of the circus hope Biden will help them, his son Hunter already owns half of ‘ukraine’.

SnowCatzor

Dream on Ukraine, a few shifty little drones aren’t going to turn the tide of war against a well equipped foe. Russia will just jam the shit out of them from across the border and shoot them down with BVR missiles and SAM’s.

In Idlib Syria was able to overcome these drones after a few weeks with better tactics and jamming abilities, taking down a few dozen of them and regaining the initiative. In Libya they managed to do the same with an even less well trained irregular force.

Drones are massively overhyped at the moment.

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