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How Europe Celebrated Christmas: Faces of European Tolerance


How Europe Celebrated Christmas: Faces of European Tolerance

Written by Igor Pshenichkov; Originally appeared at TV Zvezda, translated by AlexD exclusively for SouthFront

In Europe, as in Russia, Christmas and New Year celebrations are still going on. In the Old World, as is well known Christmas was celebrated on December 25. However, did Europeans celebrate this traditional celebration, for centuries considered the most family-oriented and warm-hearted?

Those inhabitants of the European countries that are still traditional do not believe their eyes. Almost everywhere in Europe the phrase “Merry Christmas” is considered politically incorrect and attempts are made to remove or sweep under the rug visible images of this concept in order not to “offend” Muslim immigrants. This year, even on the main Christmas tree, the most important one for all Catholics that is put up in Saint Peter’s Square at the Vatican, there were “not even one religious, not even one Christian symbol” and it shocked the faithful.

What happened with “old woman Europe”? The fact of the matter is that the current physical displacement of the population in Europe by immigrants from the Middle East and North Africa is accompanied by a deep cultural and spiritual degradation of the indigenous Europeans. The inhabitants of the Old World today by and large are all the same, that “someone” removes the spiritual components from their lives, traditional values, the basis of which was Christianity. I do not speak of the differences between Catholicism and Protestantism in their different manifestations in Europe. This is not the case. What is important is that all these denominations are Christian. There is no denying that the whole European culture has grown and was built around Christianity. But today, as it turns out, in Europe no one speaks of it because it is not tolerant.

But it is tolerant to accept the rule of any and all minorities by the silent European majority (still the majority). Among these minorities, besides the LBGT community are the Muslim immigrants. Of all Europeans to resist, arguably only the Poles, Slovaks and Hungarians, do not intend to go against their national, cultural and religious traditions. So what do we see in the rest of the European countries?

Traditional Christmas markets in various European countries were called this year in such a way that the word “Christmas” was nowhere to be seen. “Amsterdam Winter Parade”, “Brussels Winter Joy”, “Kreuzberg Winter Fair” (in Berlin), “London Winter Village”, “Munich Winter Festival” – here is a partial list of what Christmas markets have degenerated into in Europe.

A question arises: who needs this and who is behind this? Is it the only thing that today’s Europeans are so removed from their own traditional religion? It is not only this. This fact only facilitates the work of the political leadership of the European countries, which extirpates Christianity in order not to provoke the active and fearless Muslim immigrants. And there is nothing to lose for the “guests”. In addition, they feel their power against the backdrop of amorphous and incapable of self-protection of the Europeans that they vividly demonstrate with their laws and their public behaviour. The immigrants despise the modern European culture, concerned with the recognition of same-sex marriage and other legislated enshrined liberal “values”. The American think-tank Gatestone Institute writes:

“The Christmas season this year was marked by disputes, connected with Islam, in almost every European country. The majority of conflicts were caused by the multi-cultural political and religious elites of Europe, who are inclined to secularise Christmas, presumably to ensure that Muslims were not offended by the Christian holiday”.

By itself it is surprising that the Americans are paying attention to this as they are “ahead of the rest” on the road towards oblivion of the centuries-old European traditions. So, under President Obama during the full eight years of his reign, the White House sent out on Christmas Eve cards in which the word “Christmas” was carefully avoided and instead was written “Season’s Greetings”. President Trump this year brought back the official Christmas cards, sent out by the White House, with the word “Christmas” which drew the attention of all American media.

However, the Europeans are still going their own way. Here are typical examples of universal European tolerance. In Lüneburg, a small town in Lower Saxony, teachers at the school and the parental committee postponed the Christmas party at the demand from a Muslim schoolgirl, who said, “Singing Christmas songs is incompatible with her faith”.

In Lyon, the Christmas fair was cancelled “because of the exorbitant costs for security related for protection due to Islamic terror”. In neighbouring Belgium, the head of the Red Cross in Liege André Ruffer ordered the 28 offices of his organisation in the city to remove the crucifix, “to assert the secular identity of the organisation”. Critics of this measure said that this decision was part of a broader effort “to change some terminology” and “dismantle our traditions and our roots” to appease the Muslims.

“Once we talked about the Christmas holidays, now we talk about the winter holidays”, said a local Red Cross volunteer.

In Norway the administration of the primary school of the provincial town Skien announced that the Christmas celebrations this year will include not only the usual reading of passages from the Bible by students, but Quranic verses as well that supposedly relate to Jesus Christ. The Norwegian Internet resource Document.no reported that the proportion of immigrant school children is growing in Oslo, as well as in the Norwegian provinces and “it has implications for ethnic Norwegians”.

Not prone to straightforward criticism of the Europeans, as they are close to the Americans because of the general belonging to the so-called “Western civilisation”, the aforementioned Gatestone Institute nevertheless enumerated numerous examples of similar tolerance and complete rejection of their identity in Great Britain, Germany, Spain, Belgium, Denmark, Norway and France. But the most disturbing is the fact that the governments of the European countries are trying to “Islamise Christmas”, that is weld two religions, with a bias in favour of Islam, in order to “calm” the followers of this religion flooding Europe. This religious phenomenon has been called “Chrislam” and its gaining strength in the West. For example, in Great Britain, in the Church of All Saints in Kingston (one the areas of London) on December 3, 2107 a “joint celebration of the birth of Jesus and Muhammad” was held. On the flyer in anticipation of this event it was written “Celebrating the birthday of the prophet Muhammad with the anticipation of the birth of Jesus”.

“The hour-long service included an Islamic prayer followed by a luncheon with a celebratory cake which is served on birthdays”, stated the British Internet site The Christian Institute. And previously, in the same Great Britain, but this time in the Scottish Episcopalian church in Glasgow, during the Christian feast day of Epiphany, excerpts from the Quran were read, which denies that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. This is what “Chrislam” is.

Question: who is behind all this? The answer is above. That is, governments as a whole. But the British Catholics were more specific. They accused the regional government of Scotland in “undermining” the Christian heritage of the UK through the promotion of the “winter festivals” for ethnic minorities, while ignoring Christmas.

“This is part of the general secularisation, which has occured in the Scottish government for a number of years, when our Christian heritage and values have been undermined by direct government policy”, declared the representative of one of the Christian philanthropic organisations Gordon Macdonald.

Of course, the voices of protest are spreading to other European countries. They are like the voice crying in the wilderness. The regional Italian politician from Milan (where they are also avoiding the word “Christmas”) Samuel Piscina wrote in his Facebook page: “The Word Christmas”, the symbol of our faith and our culture, does not discriminate anyone. The destruction of the symbol of Christmas does not warrant anyone’s respect (from the Muslims), does not create a welcoming school and society, where all is well, but promotes intolerance to our culture, our customs, our laws and our traditions”.

The few protest statements are reduced to a single thought: by destroying our culture, we will not gain the confidence of Muslims, but show them that we can be and continue to be disrespected. And it’s not that someone is against Islam as a religion. It is understood that everyone can freely practice any religion or not to practice any. But the fact is that in Europe there is a rapidly growing new and strong tradition, feeding on the body of the permanently dying old tradition, which, willingly or not, contribute to those circles that call themselves the European elite.

We are looking at the spiritual-cultural degradation of Europe, which leads to the full physical degradation and full physical disappearance of indigenous Europeans. In 30 years, according to statistics, there will be 75,6 Muslim immigrants and their descendants in Europe, or 14% of the population of the continent. This is taking into consideration that the Europeans will still have children. But to take this into consideration is self-deceiving, given that the basis of all social, political and even economic life of Europe was the so-called “gender ideology”, that do not presuppose the preservation of traditional family value, but promoting same-sex marriage, and the complete freedom from the “old” moral principles. On the backdrop of this “freedom” of the Europeans, the Muslims families in the same Europe, as everywhere else, have many children.

With the full cultural and spiritual insecurity of the European countries, in 30 years there will be a demographic replacement of Europeans by viable and active immigrants. And it’s not that the immigrants may be still the vast majority in three decades. The fact of the matter is that they will dictate life styles as they are actually trying to dictate now and in time create a new moral-spiritual basis in Europe. And then Europe will no longer be Europe.



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  • Khalid peer

    i am a muslim and even i think that the European nanny state has lost it in the name of political correctness. Here in South Africa, where i am from and live, coming out of apartheid, we use something called united in our diversity….everybody has to celebrate and tolerate each others cultures…… unfortunately we too sometimes get it wrong with languages ….but we are trying to make it work.

    • as

      I think this is sectarianism in progress at the planning.

    • §âm

      Don’t believe this crap

  • Barba_Papa

    Political correctness serves the purpose of the ruling elite, as to them SJW’s are useful idiots. It serves to distract the left so they’re more busy fighting naughty words and for more multi-culturalism, instead of declining wages and foreign wars. And it distracts those on the right as they are more busy fighting SJW’s, rather then the ruling elites.

  • Garga

    It’s hard to believe that any Muslim gets offended by “Merry Christmas”, considering that Muslims have the utmost respect for Jesus Christ and his holy mother and there is a whole chapter dedicated to her in Qur’an (Surah Maryam) and Qur’an speaks highly and respectfully of them both.

    Perhaps in reality it is another group who gets offended, a group who does not recognize Jesus as Christ and says the most horrible things about Holy Mary and at the same time has control over a vast number of media and also politicians?

    What do I know, I’m just an Iranian…

    • Garga

      I edited my comment 3 times already and fear it will be detected as spam if I do it for the 4th time, so I write it here:

      If they do it only because of Muslims, we know that most Muslims get offended for real by LGBT and gay parades. Do these politicians also postpone or cancel these events?
      Muslims also get offended by what is going on in occupied Palestine, what those politicians do about that?

      PS: Some pictures of Christmas in Iran.

      • as

        What the west fail at is where they rather explicitly point at every detail of where people differs. Nah in my home we’re rather talking about what’s we can agree and compromise and absolutely where we can work together. We avoid talking about differences at all.

      • Tommy Jensen

        Do I sense a fishy smell of anti-semitism or a selfhating Jew here?
        You must realize this could jeopardize your revenues if you dont suck up to us. We own you and we own everything plus all gold.
        We are paying you for being nice to ultraradical violent muslims and hostile to peaceful intelligent muslims with scarfs, and to accept to undermine your own relation to “Christian culture”.
        We pay you man.
        Bow, or we dual citizens will double down and sanction even you more.

        • Garga

          You possess an extraordinary nose Tommy!
          I’m eating crow, please don’t cut my revenue. I promise to suck up from now on. Pleeeaase?

          PS: [Rubbing palms swiftly] Sababa! Here’s Shekels that Tommy paid me, Rubles from Tovarishch Tudor, Rials from the Ayatollah… I’m going to buy that beautiful, beautiful goat… >:-)

      • Riky Nik

        Nice pictures.

    • Frank Behrens

      well, these are a few cases…for the overwhelming part these festivals are still called christmas fairs or markets (well, to be honest: what do they have to do directly with the christian message)…so that is the typical russian hyperbole (they are soooo concerned what happens in the rest of europe…).
      But you are not wrong here…it is guessed by many voices that this has more to do with some leftists groups and atheists as well as so called gutmenschen (political corectness) …funny enough, I do have some muslim collegues, who are all celebrating chistmas and in no way are offended at all, if you wish them merry chistmas (they even say that to themselves) …I guess those groups are just use this as an excuse .

  • Tudor Miron

    “Cut off the roots and it will fall by itself” – that’s what happening in Europe. This is work on 1st priority of conceptual governing i.e. Methodology/Ideology. 1st priority instruments are slowest to implement and bring results but this results are most lasting and often irreversible

    • Solomon Krupacek


      • Tudor Miron


        • Solomon Krupacek

          dont talk about us, europeans, you eurasian bear.

  • hvaiallverden

    Instead of drooling something, I will give you this one.
    An good one, Sweden and failed immigration.
    The ugly truth.


    Ok, ok, ok, most of the so called Christmas complains comes from Not Muslims, but PC-infested barking lunatics and an weird collection of militant atheists and so called Humanists, whom despises everything, but somehow uses that to attack Christians, they have done that in Norway for decades, nothing new, just that this time, its to “protect” Muslims, as an moronic pretext to do something, of course, to not offend.

    Thats an fact.

    The second fact, is scary, in Norway it have dawned to the mountain monkeys that the rat pack in the Gov, before and now, have learned the tricks, Lies, Dammed lies and Statistics, and the costs of refugees have, as the other scam AGW, been based upon Programs, where data is created to hide, the, hehe decline, and this program, dont need or uses facts, to an extent that the Statistical Gov. is using as “official stats”, is an bloody joke, and nobody wants to admit anything wrong, or what the real deal is.
    Etc. in stead, they hammer their own, “white population” for been lazy and dont bother to do anything etc, and blames the sky rocketing social exp, on the Norwegians, and not an single word about anyone else.

    The third, is what culture, what Swedish culture, what Nordic culture, huh, we have Kalevala, older than everything else, writings, older than most, etc, and somehow, this dont count, electric street lights years before Paris, in Hammerfest, and obscure little town straight into the mouth of the North Ice sea.
    Yeah, makes one wounder, professor and everything, knows obviously nothing, stupid creeps.

    Wake up.
    We Need an Revolution.


  • Alexandra

    I remember as a teenager when here in Canada “Merry Christmas and Happy New Year” was changed to “Happy Holidays” or “Season’s Greetings” and that was back in the late 1970s. It was not because of Muslims! This attack on Christmas (and anything Christian) goes a long way back and it was not started by the Muslims or for the Muslims. Back then the explanation given was that Jewish kids did not have a holiday where they received gifts so the holiday Hanukah was “promoted” and it was decided to include it in the general greeting therefore the needed change in the phrase to be more inclusive.

    Please, let’s stop bashing Muslims for every nefarious deed in the West!

    • as

      It’s a long way back they denounce anything religious or tradition with religious nature. It’s just a pretext that it’s for the Muslims minority. Just like how they legalize gay marriage for minority while in essence they normalizing what’s supposed to be ‘abnormal’.

    • Mattias Dahlström

      Here is an interesting example how an author of children’s books write one type of books for the goy and one kind of books for her tribe, in one case pushing for break-up of traditional family and in the latter case promoting traditional family values.

      • Alexandra

        Yes, I read this article on another website and it is disgusting. I’m glad that my children grew up in a French environment where these kinds of books were not present.

    • John Brown

      Part 1 Yes you got it. George Soros racist supremacist Nazi Jew pays phony muslims to complain about Christ! when the Koran praises Christ as god.
      Christian Christmas Symbols Outlawed Jewish Menorahs Erected The Jewish Takeover of America!
      Nothing that better illustrates the Jewish extremist takeover of America than the triumphant Jewish War on Christmas!
      Jewish organizations have been the leaders of the legal fight to ban Christian Christmas symbols from American public life. The largest Jewish organizations in America such as the American Jewish Committee, has financed and sponsored numerous lawsuits saying that Christian Manger scenes and Christian crosses cannot be erected on any public ground.
      Even though such has been permitted during the entire history of the United States, they claimed these displays were harmful to Jews. They have also successfully banned Christmas Carols in schools and created the newspeak of “Winter Holidays” instead of “Christmas Holidays.”
      With the media overwhelmingly owned and run by Jewish racist supremacist tribalists, and with the American political and judicial system thoroughly run by Jewish money and Jewish influence, they completely banned any Christian Christmas celebration from any public ground and in any public institution.

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      • Garga

        Just a minor correction for your otherwise enlightening comment:

        the Koran praises Christ as god

        Islam and Qur’an name Jesus as a prophet of the god, who’s birth by a virgin mother is a miracle. His title in Qur’an is “Spirit of God”. Qur’an endorses miracles by his hand and him being Christ and believes he will return.
        However, he’s not considered god or son of god.

        • John Brown

          I believe you are wrong., I have read the Koran. See attached videos. I don’t see how one has to make a choice between Christianity or Islam I believe them to be the same. I believe God sends different profits to different peoples to help them as they need to be helped. Who are you or me to say it was good or bad to send Muhammad to the middle east and the disciples of Christ to the Roman Empire? I don’t know the wisdom of God I can only guess. The only exception to this being Jesus as Jesus was God taking the form of a man unlike any other Profit or Saint and this is why Jesus is in the Koran as well as the bible.
          I have observed many of the Wahibi Muslims who follow the Saudi Judeao royal family who are crypto racist supremacist Jews and close allies of Israel for decades (its only coming out now they are one in the same) seem to have been led astray from the profit Muhammad’s teachings and
          words. Much the same way a large number of Christians have become Christian Zionists really Christian Satanists. I believe those who follow ISIS and Al Qaeda for example, to be Muslim Zionists / Satanists as Christian Zionists also worship Satin. It is great sin for Muslims to kill other Muslims and Christians. Once they do this they are no longer Muslims in
          my eyes but Satanists. The prophet Muhammad and Jesus / God would never approve of this. Just as Christians shall not kill Muslims. They should unite to free them. Dome of the Rock and al-Aqsa Mosque an Church of the Holy Sepulchre from racist supremacist Satanic Jews.
          What does the Quran really say about Jesus
          The QuRAN Made Me BeCOME CHRISTIAN
          Jesus is God in the Quran!
          The Church VS The Synagogue

          • Garga

            I agree with most of what you wrote.
            Regarding the status of Jesus Christ in Qor’an, if you’re interested I can post you a few links to clear this matter.
            I think if you want to know the Qor’an’s view on Jesus, it’s better to read it directly.

          • John Brown

            It is very clear Jesus is above all Saints /Profits, everyone else in the Koran, and the Bible except god because Jesus was god taking human form. Many Muslims tell me this as in the video links I just showed you. Some deceived Christians believe as you do that Jesus was part man or a man as Satanic Jews say which is impossible. If that were true he could never rise from the dead, bring the dead back to life etc. That would make both the Koran and the Bible full of lies as Satin wants men to believe. So to me when you say that, you deny the prophet Muhammad as Zionist Christians deny Jesus.
            Muslims should not take direction from Satanic Jews about their religion and neither should Christians. Satanic Jews need Muslims to believe Jesus was just man because if Jesus was god inhuman form to Muslims they could never kill Christians for religious reasons get it? The same for Christians as Christians could not kill Muslims if they knew Muslims believed Jesus was god in human form.. If you believe that Jesus was only a man then Jews and Satin will get you.
            See scenes from the move Risen as described in the Koran and the bible. No
            man can rise from the dead, disappear into thin air, bring the dead back to life,
            give life to mud. god did that when he created man and woman. No man / Profit / Saint disciple ever did these things.

            See Christians and Muslims both judged by god as individuals.

            How Jews Mock Christ
            Why Jews deny Muhammad

          • Garga

            As a Shi’a I told you Islam’s and Qor’an’s view on Jesus. Take it or leave it.

          • John Brown

            The Koran is very well written, there is no doubt what it says. I believe it, I take it, you are the one leaving it. You remind me of Christians who claim to believe in god when they obviously don’t. I tell them well if you believe in god why are your churches empty, dying out. Look at what the great Satin is doing to Muslims in the middle East? I don’t think that would be happening if they were truly following the ways of the profit? Especially in countries like Saudi Judea Arabia. If all Shia and Suni think like you they will be nuked by Israel Satanic Israel. I hope they and you will wake up and follow the profit so they and you will be saved.

          • Garga

            If you really believe in what Qor’an says, I gave you the verse, read it.

            The messenger of god is named prophet. Profit is something entirely different, and it’s Satan, not Satin. Do you write them this way on purpose?

        • John Brown

          His title in Qur’an is “Spirit of God”. So you are saying the Qur’an says Jesus was god.

          • Garga

            No, I didn’t say that.
            Qor’an clearly says that Jesus is a messenger and a prophet of god:
            Surah Al-Nisa’ (women), verse 171 (4:171):

            There are 5 different English translations on the page. This verse also explains why he’s called the Spirit of God.

          • John Brown

            Yes there is no holy trinity I agree. This is stupid and I
            think just Jewish Satanic disnfo. Muhammad was right. God is everywhere
            and can appear as 1 man or as 1 billion men at the same time if god
            wished to do so. God is the son, the father, the holy ghost, but there is no
            Trinity, there is only one god who created all.

          • Garga

            I don’t believe in trinity but I don’t find it stupid. It’s something that over 1 billion people believe. I cannot possibly be more educated and knowledgeable than all of them.

            Maybe speaking with someone with sufficient knowledge about Christianity and trinity would clear a lot of things.

          • John Brown

            Just because many believe in something does not make it true. Isn’t that what the profit taught those pagans he converted to Muslims??? I know exactly what the Trinity is and means to the deceived.

    • John Brown

      part 2 Saying Goyims are equal to Jews is now considered to be racist because Jews are now the racially, genetically, spiritually, superior, master, race and non Jews are lower than animals
      Just ask any racist supremacist Jew this.
      “Will you admit Jewish racist supremacism is wrong and a great sin in the eyes of god Will you admit the Talmud Torah and Kaballah are all wrong and in sin, a great sin against god, when they say that god did not create Jews and non Jews as equals in the eyes of god and that Goyims are equal to Jews in the eyes of god in every way and Jews are not superior genetically, spiritually, not chosen and not better then Goyims in any way in gods eyes? and that all men are brothers in the eyes of god???
      Hes a Goy from Kenya Jewish Convert With Valid Visa Denied Entry to Israel https://sputniknews.com/news/201801041060523238-Jewish-Convert-With-Valid-Visa-Denied-Entry-to-Israel/ A Kenyan citizen was recently detained at the airport and deported from Israel, despite having a valid tourist visa. Yehuda Kimani, a 31-year-old Jewish convert, believed he had the permission of the Israeli ambassador in Nairobi to study at a Conservative yeshiva in Israel, but when he arrived at Ben-Gurion Airport in mid-December to begin his studies, he found border authorities had different ideas. Kimani was detained and not allowed to contact his sponsors in Israel, according to Haaretz, and put on a plane to Ethiopia the following morning. According to the Jerusalem Post, officials feared “he would remain [illegally]” in the country after his three month visa expired.
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  • §âm

    What a load of shit… does anyone actually believe this article??? No more “Merry Christmas” so muslims wouldn’t be offended? Stop spreading false info and hate SF some of the lunatics with tinfoil hats may believe this!

    • Mattias Dahlström

      Renaming of Christmas festivals is true. Change of end of term celebration has changed in Scandinavian schools where all Christian references have been removed.
      Please, point to anything false.

      • Solomon Krupacek

        yes, but the commies did also this. strange article from commie journalist.

    • MichaH

      I live in Germany, I was born in the Ruhr area. In terms of Germany, the article says the truth. The theme with Christmas and the possibility that Muslims could feel discriminated against. However, it did not happen here that people read aloud from the Koran in a church. People wake up slowly, more and more citizens are fed up. Crime rates are skyrocketing, billions of dollars of taxpayers’ money wasted, and politicians and media claiming everything would not be that bad.

  • Z1

    Quite some nonsense. The “whole European culture” has not at all “grown and was built around Christianity”. How much does Pshenichkov know about Dante Alighieri, who read Aristoteles in Arabic, learnt from a Spanish Jew? Arab and Muslim influence were probably one of the preconditions of the (west) European renaissance, the Protestant split from the Pope, and the age of Enlightment (which reached the Russian culture only thanks to the Communist movement…). Throughout history, great human progress is allways achieved at the crossroads of different cultures.

    • Mattias Dahlström

      The influence was Greek, Jewish, Persian, Indian – they just happened to be conquered by the Arabs. Further, the pre-Christian influence is clear to see, especially in the realm of individualism and liberty.

      • Z1

        So why did the scholar Dante learn Arabic?

    • Solomon Krupacek

      Arab and Muslim influence were probably one of the preconditions of the (west) European renaissance,

      roman and greek culture.

      the roman la is one of most important pillars of european culture. much, much more than any juice or araber influence. arab influence was only numbers an they saved the nacient greek, roman philosophers, scientists works. thats all.

      • Z1

        Where do the word “alcohol”, “algebra”, “algorhytm” amongs many others (vegetables and fruits!) come from? Greek? What is the root of the Roman word “canaliculus” (channel)? The linguistic influence is of course stronger in southern European languages.

        • Solomon Krupacek

          this is no real influence. alcohol is only word, nothiung elsae. numbers i told, algebra was known also. only new name became from arabs.

          • Z1

            Why do we communicate in English? Are we under English influence? Why don’t we communicate in, let’s say, Polish or Czech, Solomon?

          • Solomon Krupacek

            because you know only 2 languages.

            forthermore, english has influebco on world. but if i use several dozens of words from any languge, this ecxactly means, that language has no influence on me. one day you will understabd this.

            we, europeans and arabs have nothing common.

          • Z1

            Who needs a shrink?